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Stanley Cup Playoffs Round 1 Update!! Tampa vs Montreal Nail biter!! | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  Baby bound Bow banger management fantasy hockey podcast.
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  Woo. Woo who?
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  Very nice. Welcome in one and all 2 Bangor
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  management, The fantasy hockey podcast with Jake.
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  What a flow he's got going on today.
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  Josh and backwards hack Kevin. I usually have backwards out
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  recently. I don't know why my girlfriend
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  likes it so I just. Rocked it works for you?
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  I like it, yeah. That's it.
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  Yeah, yeah, we are all thriving today.
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  Well, not really after last night's games, but we'll get
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  into that. We are doing Part 2 of the
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  All right, talking about once before we jumped in, you know, a
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  little, a little lollygagging talking about the talking about
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  the flow. I still haven't found a
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  hairdresser here in Pennsylvania and I'm gonna be back in
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  Montreal in like mid-May for like 2 days, like for my
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  cousin's wedding. And I haven't decided yet if I'm
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  going to get a haircut, if I'm just going to keep the flow
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  going. So if any of our fans care
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  enough, I'd be surprised if anyone comments on this.
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  But if anyone cares enough to comment, let me know.
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  Keep the flow going or give or get a haircut.
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  Could use a. Little you know, at least so we
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  can see. I could give you a little shake.
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  I just got out of the shower, just finished my last game of
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  my, my first season here in Pennsylvania.
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  So it's kind of it's kind of crazy.
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  I don't know how far. I think you should keep the. 4
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  How far back it goes, but. Josh Anderson vibes Josh.
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  Definitely not the same archetype of player.
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  We just finished our season officially zero wins on the
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  season. But it was a lot of fun and I
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  scored two. I scored two goals tonight so as
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  usual, I'm feeling pretty good. Two goals, but he puts his own
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  success above the team success apparently.
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  Cause let's maybe just recruit some Amish to your team next
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  year. I mean we are, we have for the
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  summer season, 1 of the guys on the team decided to build his
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  own team and he's like, I'm just taking all the best players from
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  this team and then a couple of my buddies who I know are good
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  and we're gonna run it back so and I made the cut so.
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  So we'll see how that summer season goes.
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  Well, you know if we can beat up on some Amish.
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  Feel, feel, feel bad for all the guys that didn't make the cut.
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  They're gonna be like what you say.
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  Ask me for men. Dude, it was it was actually
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  crazy because in the group, like so at first, like he like
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  reached out to me like separately and I'm sure like
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  everyone else who he wanted on the team and like, I was like,
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  you wanna join my team? Whatever.
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  I'm like, yeah, sure sounds dope.
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  Like I was like, as long as no one have any hard feelings, like
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  I'm always down to, you know, play and have a better team.
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  And then at a certain point, like the season is coming to an
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  end, people are being like, oh, what's going on with summer
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  season, whatever. And so the guy just posted in
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  the group chat was like, hey, guys, I just want to be fully
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  transparent here. I decided to build a team for
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  summer season. And some of you are on it and
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  some of you are. And, you know, no one really
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  responded, but like, I, yeah, it's a, it's a cutthroat, A
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  cutthroat world of beer league, you know?
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  That's gotta hurt the feels too, like you're you're going home
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  like you, your wife and your job and it's like I couldn't even
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  make the cut for my beer. I mean like like you feels bad,
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  but I mean I. Guess.
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  Definitely rough, yeah. So so when you say you haven't
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  found a Barber, it's like, have you tried so fun, OK.
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  I honestly, like, I'm convinced that I'm just never going to.
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  I think I'm gonna go to Montreal at least twice a year.
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  You know, maybe I'll just be a guy.
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  With two haircuts a year, that's it.
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  Yeah, I mean, maybe. I don't know.
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  I know like my wife loves the long hair.
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  For me, it just kind of drives me crazy after a while.
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  But I could live with it if it means I don't have to find a new
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  Barber. I think it was after the
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  pandemic when I saw you for like the first time and you just had
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  this crazy flow going on. I was like, yeah, it is going on
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  here, but it works because you never had long hair.
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  Before, right, I've always been a short hair.
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  I just find it more comfortable and yeah, I've always been like
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  regular, you know, once a month haircuts and I get, you know,
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  besides all the way as like short as you can give a little
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  bit of to play with on top and that's it.
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  But the flow can be fun. It's also like, I don't know,
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  it's like a nervous tick I have or what, but I'm just always
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  doing this just putting my hand through my hair.
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  I'll be in like work meetings, just like people talk.
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  Yeah, honestly, it's it's definitely making me think that
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  I'll be very depressed if I go bald when I when I'm older
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  because I just love it like. A panty and pro V commercial,
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  just like in A. Work 17 not to, you know.
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  You're really bragging. But only going bald?
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  In COVID, like when it had just hit like 2019 and when
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  everything was like closing down and stuff where my mom gave me a
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  haircut because my hair was getting like so long and I
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  always have my hair short. I just like, you know, I do the
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  sides like very like basically I get like a skin fade just like
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  the size are very short and the top I leave a little longer and
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  then like, OK, like my mom's gonna hook me up like since all
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  the Barber shops are closed and whatever.
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  And then she cut my hair, but she messed up the attachment.
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  So the attachment for a top, shoes on the sides and
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  attachment for the sides, shoes on the top.
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  So I had like the river. I like the reverse fade.
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  And then I was like Dad, she like messed myself up and it was
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  horrible. And I do not miss that era.
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  That was like 7 years ago at this point.
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  Or 6. Years ago so so I'm picturing
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  like this is all short. And then this is long, you know.
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  Like the contrast was not huge, but it was noticeable enough
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  that it was like a terrible haircut.
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  And at that point I just like shaved everything.
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  And I was like, alright, I'm just, I wasn't going leaving the
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  house anyway. So at least I I just stayed home
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  and I took pictures of my life. But that's Mr. Burns.
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  From The Simpsons. Yes.
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  That's awesome. Like Kevin O'Leary, right?
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  Like there kind of balled out the little or he's coming to
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  learn all bald anyways. But yeah, that's that's
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  hilarious. Did you ever have a flow, Kevin?
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  Never. No, I don't think my hair will
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  never let my hair grow that long and also right now I just don't
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  have the hair density to even get there so.
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  Someone clearly never been depressed.
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  You know way to project. Yes.
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  My depression was after my bad haircut, but I had no hair at
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  that point. That's.
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  Why I was so? By the time I heard grew back, I
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  was fine. But yeah, that was that was it
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  was. It was a rough few months.
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  But yeah, that reminds me of one more on the hair topic.
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  We can actually get into stuff but drain COVID.
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  Also my sister-in-law gave my father-in-law haircut and it was
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  so. Never let your family members
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  cut your hair. That's the one to take.
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  Away from this. Yeah.
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  They have nothing good ever since that happened and I know
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  the timing is a little bit off, but for comedic effect, he's
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  just not gotten a haircut and now has like a crazy flow.
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  So I feel like she's Josh's father-in-law.
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  I mean, yeah, it definitely it coincided with him like retiring
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  from the military and being like, oh, I don't have to keep
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  my hair short and getting the flow for sure.
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  But I I like to think I like your hypothesis that it was her
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  fault part of. It yeah, you should ask him.
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  Well, it definitely still comes up, so definitely not over it.
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  Alright, I think let's dive into some round one matchups.
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  So you guys wanna start Eastern Conference?
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  I guess let's do the same order as last time, no?
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  Alright, yeah, let's do that. OK, so first series we had
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  Buffalo Sabres versus Boston Bruins.
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  Current series is 3/1 for Buffalo and we all, we all
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  predicted Boston in six. So we're all already wrong
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  because if Boston wants to and it's going to be in seven and I
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  don't know about you guys, but this point I don't think there's
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  any chance Boston wins. Do you guys see the post game
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  like of the of the coach for Boston of the storm?
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  It was like he said the word embarrassing like 7 times in a
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  14 word sentence. It was.
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  It was brutal and you see Swamin screaming at the bench as he got
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  pulled after 6. Nothing.
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  Yeah, but it wasn't even swimming's fault.
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  Like, I feel like he's been pretty solid.
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  Just the team around him let him down.
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  And honestly, Buffalo has done nothing but impressed me.
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  So like now you're looking at the Brac and you're like in
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  this, we'll get into Montreal and Tampa right after.
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  But Buffalo is not going to be an easy matchup for anybody.
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  I thought like maybe the inexperience would catch up to
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  them in the playoffs, but it looks like they're just keeping
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  the same form that they've been in for the last few months and
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  they are inform. Yeah, Alex Lyon, the goat and
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  won back the net after UPS let in that cross cross centre.
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  That's like Viki. Everything that happens, I think
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  like, was it Toskala from For the least?
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  I wanted like that, yeah. Yeah, that was a classic
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  watching least like low lights, Yeah.
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  I I was convinced all year that Boston was trash and that they
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  weren't gonna make the playoffs. So this is just simply me
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  overthinking this. I was like, you know, they
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  definitely have the experience. I think it was pretty much the
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  crux of the thesis for all of us.
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  Buffalo hasn't made the playoffs and a decade, literally.
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  Yeah. And Boston has a lot of
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  experience players, and they just as an organization, have
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  gone and won the Stanley Cup before.
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  So it was just like it felt like, OK, this was bound to
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  happen. And I have no doubt.
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  I mean, it's not a crazy take cause they're up 31, but I have
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  no doubt that they're gonna closeout the series.
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  There are others. Who just thinks I'm?
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  Still not convinced, but honestly, it was a really good
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  choice that they put Lion in. I was convinced he was also
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  better all year. So that's just kind of the
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  cherry on top. And yeah, you're right, Kevin.
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  I mean, whoever they play next round, I I'm feeling way better
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  about their chances against other Montreal or Tampa than
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  Boston's chances. I thought it was going to be
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  Boston, then it was going to be a guaranteed easy path for the
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  Montreal, Tampa, but now I'm like, Buffalo could really
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  compete. I mean, 100% what you were
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  saying with the with the overthinking, like I'm always,
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  I'm always trying to, you know, we look at it, we know Buffalo
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  is the better team. We know Boston had no business
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  being in the playoffs. But all of us are thinking the
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  experience, right? And it's those intangibles that
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  as we get more into our hockey analyst careers, right on on the
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  podcast, you try to take more into account all these
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  intangibles. But the other day it's just pick
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  the better team. Yeah, and you know, there's one
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  more theme and like I just wanna say, and this is the first kind
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  of series I'll mention it in, is that star power is not winning
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  out as much as I I feel like it usually does in this playoffs
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  and this. Other person you're thinking of?
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  Yeah, there's, I mean there's a few obvious ones.
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  It's just to me depth players are way more importantly so far
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  than I'm used to. And Boston is an extremely top
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  heavy team with geeky and friends and yeah, so and
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  Buffalo's got a much deeper roster with, you know, better
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  lines. And I mean, swimming is
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  obviously the best goalie in the series, but better defence.
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  I think so. So realistically, I'm I'm not
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  just in going with the theme that I'm seeing around the
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  league. This is just another like a
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  prominent example of that. For I want to talk about like
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  for fantasy next season, like are you what's this goalie
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  situation going to be? Because I saw some people in the
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  Discord chat were talking about like keepers and like
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  potentially keeping like L And I honestly like that option
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  because I think like he's gonna have be the guy has the edge in
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  terms of like being the Buffalo starter next season if you got
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  him really late. But Alex Line, I feel when Alex
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  Line gets hot, like he can go on stretches of like 10 games
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  unbeaten. That's actually not.
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  This guy's a savior. Remember when he was on Florida
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  and they were out of a playoff spot and then he went on that
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  insane run? That's what I'm saying.
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  They went to they went to Bob in the playoffs.
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  But but yeah he 100% he's done this before.
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  For me it doesn't matter cause I'm not drafting any goalies
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  I'll pick up. I'll pick up whichever 1 doesn't
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  get drafted after the draft. If both get drafted that just
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  means more goalies on other teams to choose from.
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  So but let's say who do we think?
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  If your main question is who do we think is going to be the
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  starter next season? It's hard for me to think that
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  they don't go 5050 but that's a cop out answer.
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  So who do we think has the edge? I think this might be another
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  call. Bad answer, but I think it's
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  whoever does better this playoffs.
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  I think they're gonna give the they're gonna have the edge
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  starting into next season. So if line keeps the net for the
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  rest of the playoffs, I can't imagine it.
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  Regardless of how far they go. I can't imagine he's not the
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  starter going into next season. But again, I think it's going to
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  be close to 5050. Yeah.
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  Do you think, you know, we're we're getting to the point where
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  I feel like you have to you have to be open minded to owning a
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  tandem as opposed to trying to get the sure thing starter.
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  And I think Buffalo is a solid team.
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  So what I wanna use a keeper on one of them if it's like, I feel
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  like if you are going to use one Lions, the better one because
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  you likely didn't draft. Him around the person's question
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  was like do I keep like UPL in the 12th or like Hoefer and 11th
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  type of thing? And I was like I'd rather go UPS
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  because I like Buffalo situation more.
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  And I think that if between the two, I think UPL has the chance
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  to be like the starter on his team pick also and it's the
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  lower pick. I mean the pics I might be
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  getting wrong but I remember it was like both late round picks
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  type of thing and Hoover is good but I feel like Bennington is a
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  more of a threat than I don't know to take back.
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  I don't know it's actually close that I'm thinking about it now
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  that he's lying. Like this was like last week or
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  something that he asked the question but.
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  For me it's less about who's the bigger threat.
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  I think they both have pretty big threats in net and I might
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  even give the edge to line their over Bennington.
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  It's more just I think Buffaloes on the upswing and I don't see a
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  reason why Saint Louis is going to suddenly be good next year.
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  So I'd rather take the shot at PPL than Hofer just because of
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  the team they're on. Yeah OK.
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  Should we get into the the money series?
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  The one that's making me? Honestly, it's probably taking
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  years off my life. My heart can't take it.
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  I've started running again just to be able to keep up with this
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  series every overtime. Honestly, last game I was so
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  depressed obviously because the laws, but I was also like thank,
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  thank you for not making you go to overtime, you know?
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  But how do we choke A20 lead at the Bell Centre?
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  Like first of all I feel like every game there's both teams
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  are getting like 7 power plays each which is just ridiculous.
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  The refs are all over the place this series, and I'm not even
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  gonna say, oh, they're favoring Tampa, they're favoring the
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  Habs. They are just being way too
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  involved, just playoff hockey. I know that.
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  It's kind of how it works in the past is they it dries up as you
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  make it into further and further rounds.
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  But this is just ridiculous. Just let the teams play right.
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  Every team is getting at the end of the game.
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  They're probably similar numbers of power plays.
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  It's just the numbers way too high.
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  Like 7-8 power plays giving A5 on three with two like 4 minutes
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  left in a tie game 21. Calls are like questionable.
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  If it's obvious you've gotta call out, you can get away with
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  it, right? Like yeah, but sometimes I mean
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  both wouldn't wanna. Say.
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  Things, some of them, some of these were just so soft.
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  Yeah, I don't know if you guys ever with this, after this last
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  game, I was kind of like daydreaming what my post game
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  presser would look like if I was the Habs coach.
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  And I just picture myself like getting up there and being like,
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  first of all, you know, thoughts and prayers.
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  I can't believe that, you know, Kucherov still in one piece
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  after that attempt on his life. You know, like, like super
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  sarcastic because the guy Evans tapped him.
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  He saw him coming a mile away, was going about.
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  He was going like the same speed as an old lady walking across
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  the street. OK.
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  And then all of a sudden, all he crashed in the boards, all he's
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  offered to take 15 seconds off for the last shift to sell it
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  even more. Oh, look who's back on the power
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  play for the entire 2 minutes. Five on three.
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  I thought like what he was like moving his knee and stuff.
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  I was like, oh man, this might be serious.
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  And I saw on the power play, I was like this, this guy.
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  It's nuts. I was telling.
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  I was telling people we were watching the game.
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  I was. I said he's gonna be on the
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  power play. There's no way getting this five
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  on three. This is all an act.
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  I don't know when hockey became soccer, but it's just
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  ridiculous. And and honestly, I've been
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  reading like people talking about it and embellishment has
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  been really bad this playoffs. Yeah, in general.
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  I mean, Crosby and Cannibal called embellishments for the
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  first time in their careers and it's just been crazy everywhere
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  because people know, first of all, power plays are so
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  important in do or die situations like this.
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  And if you sell it, most of the time it's gonna get called.
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  And you know what you kind of hope is as the series goes on,
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  you know, because the refs look at the highlight, everyone sees
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  the highlights. You know that.
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  What was it that high stick that made the first penalty of that
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  five on three that the stick never thought he reacted before
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  the stick even came anywhere near him, right?
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  I know it's a natural reaction. The stick comes near, you
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  flinch, but then you don't sell it and be like, Oh my God, my
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  face. So you gotta hope that the refs
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  see that and think, OK, you got me this time.
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  But now I'm gonna be a bit yes. You're not gonna give me again
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  or? That's it exactly.
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  So we'll see what happens, but in general I just wish it was
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  less penalties called on both sides.
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  And then also the hit on slab right in the head that was that
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  did not get called. And they were like, oh, you
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  didn't make head contact. The new CD other I saw the angle
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  of the other thing. I saw the angle from the other
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  one. You see, you see the guy like
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  lift his. I don't think it's all his
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  skates around the ice either. And then it's straight on the
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  head. So I don't know, maybe I just
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  saw a fluke. Angle, but I mean as much like
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  Sloth is probably my favorite Habs player at this point and I
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  still think it was clean. I didn't honestly, I told Eva
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  when we were watching the game, I said this is all true class.
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  I think it was the fault of the guy who passed it to him.
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  I didn't see, I didn't see who it was, but that's it.
• 17:09
  Reminds me of like to lesser extent but I don't remember this
• 17:13
  like years back when we played Ottawa in the playoffs and Eller
• 17:15
  got rocked and he was like bleeding on the ice and
• 17:19
  essentially the Ottawas coach it was Paul McLean.
• 17:24
  I wanna say though, the one who pressed called the bug eyed
• 17:26
  walrus. Don't.
• 17:26
  You remember that? But but he essentially was like
• 17:30
  in the postgame, he said Emelin gave him a suicide pass.
• 17:33
  And that's the first I heard that term.
• 17:34
  And honestly, it kind of was. It was one of those like soft
• 17:37
  passes. You see the guy, you know,
• 17:38
  there's a guy coming, he's looking at your players looking
• 17:40
  back at you. He goes to get the puck, he
• 17:42
  turns and gets slammed. So that's kind of how I felt
• 17:44
  with the slash 1. I felt that it was a bad pass
• 17:46
  that kind of set him up for failure.
• 17:47
  Look, with what got called on tap for Tampa's away, I would
• 17:50
  say yes, you should call it that, a penalty.
• 17:53
  But I don't necessarily know that.
• 17:54
  I felt it was super dirty but also our predictions in this
• 17:57
  one. We we all had it going to 7.
• 17:58
  Jacky is a traitor and said Tampa.
• 18:01
  Me and Kevin are good people and said Montreal.
• 18:05
  I will say our number of games is looking accurate for all of
• 18:08
  us. I just, I don't know, I can't
• 18:11
  see this not going to 7. This is gotta go 7 but like I
• 18:15
  honestly, I'm really liking what I'm seeing from the hubs.
• 18:17
  Like I feel like last game we were the better team.
• 18:19
  I felt like for most of the game, like we should have won
• 18:21
  that game. The fact that we lost is a huge
• 18:23
  detriment to like I think it's gonna affect us mentally a lot.
• 18:27
  But I think if you take the game from like start to finish, I
• 18:31
  think we were the better team for the majority of it.
• 18:33
  And just some moments here and there ended up costing us as I,
• 18:37
  as I said this point. I ran in my furious rant in the
• 18:40
  group chat after they lost. It was what makes a playoff team
• 18:43
  good versus a bad playoff team like the Leafs is You have to be
• 18:46
  able to put away a series. And the haves had the chance
• 18:48
  when they are up 1. Nothing in overtime.
• 18:50
  They could have made it to nothing.
• 18:51
  That and they were up in that game even before the overtime.
• 18:53
  They had the chance when they're 21 to make it 31 and both times
• 18:56
  they, I won't say choked. Tampa played well.
• 18:59
  Brandon Hagel is obviously the best.
• 19:00
  Tickle is insane. Yeah, it's nuts.
• 19:03
  Every time I see him on the ice stressed, It's it's actually
• 19:07
  insane what he's been doing. But but yeah, so I'm kind of
• 19:10
  honestly, and for me, the Habs win a game.
• 19:12
  I say Sasala Coop, we're planning the parade.
• 19:14
  Nothing's ever gonna stop us. We lose a game.
• 19:16
  I say we're never going to win a game.
• 19:17
  This team sucks. You know, I just, I'm so
• 19:19
  reactive. So right now we're we're
• 19:21
  following a loss, some depressed, but if we win the
• 19:23
  next one, then plan the parade again.
• 19:26
  Yeah, if you told me this was gonna be two 2 after four games
• 19:29
  going like before the season started, I probably would have
• 19:31
  taken that, right. Like, but it's just like how the
• 19:34
  games unfolded. You kind of like the game that
• 19:36
  we lost in OT. I was like, damn, we should have
• 19:38
  had that one and this last one, we were up to 0.
• 19:41
  We should have had that one. So I kind of feel like, I don't
• 19:44
  know, I really like our chances in this series.
• 19:46
  I like what we're doing. I like the way our power play is
• 19:49
  performing. I still think we have room to be
• 19:52
  better as well. But to your point, you gotta be
• 19:55
  able to put away series. But we're also playing against
• 19:57
  arguably the team that had the second best option, the Stanley
• 19:59
  Cup. It was like Colorado was Tampa.
• 20:00
  Those were the two favorites, right?
• 20:01
  So it's like it's an easy matchup either, and we can't
• 20:04
  sugarcoat that. Yeah, if you want to be the
• 20:07
  best, you gotta beat the best. The impression I'm getting is
• 20:10
  that every time the Habs, like every game so far, there's been
• 20:14
  four games, It's either line 1 is on a tear and then the
• 20:18
  ancillary line 3 and 4 don't do much, or the opposite.
• 20:22
  There hasn't been a game where they're firing on all cylinders
• 20:26
  and also still not still wanna contract.
• 20:30
  What a contract. He's sick.
• 20:33
  He's actually been so good for them it's unbelievable.
• 20:36
  And I feel like at the time we all ripped on that.
• 20:39
  But this is where like these low key players gonna have to come
• 20:41
  out of nowhere and play. Josh Anderson does this every
• 20:44
  year. I know people like to, you know,
• 20:46
  like trash in trash on him during the year and be like, oh,
• 20:50
  he gets paid too much and everything, but he he really
• 20:52
  shows up when it counts. But yeah, I just feel like, you
• 20:56
  know, Dominic James too. I mean, I don't know if you're
• 21:00
  watching. He's so fast, it's crazy.
• 21:02
  But Moser is like just absolutely killing it for them.
• 21:08
  He's been even notice that had been gone.
• 21:09
  It's nuts. Oh yeah, no, completely.
• 21:12
  They're and also, yeah, it could be.
• 21:15
  And, and yeah, I just, I think that the Habs have a chance.
• 21:17
  It's just like you need to have a game where all of the lines
• 21:21
  are are really just giving it their all.
• 21:25
  It just feels like on the top lines firing in the first game,
• 21:28
  the other players weren't doing too much.
• 21:29
  I don't know. Because.
• 21:31
  Honestly. So it needs to be a team effort.
• 21:33
  The top line has done nothing at even strength.
• 21:36
  The only time they've contributed is on the power
• 21:39
  play, and power play is important.
• 21:40
  But if that top line can't figure it out, and I'm not
• 21:42
  saying they're playing well, I think I'm give full credit to
• 21:44
  Cirelli and that line that's shutting them down.
• 21:46
  They're absolutely neutralizing them.
• 21:48
  They are not even a factor in this series.
• 21:50
  I have did not hear Cofield's name mentioned by the
• 21:53
  commentators once the entire game other than his power play
• 21:55
  goal. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 21:57
  These guys and it's Cofield's second best goals were in the
• 21:59
  league this year. Suzuki hit 100 points, I think
• 22:01
  was 7th in the league in points. If these guys disappear, look,
• 22:05
  I'm I'm not I am overreacting because we're on a loss again.
• 22:08
  This would be a very different me if this is coming off the
• 22:10
  win. But what's the difference if
• 22:12
  this happens this year and it happens again one more year?
• 22:14
  What's difference between our core and the Leafs that couldn't
• 22:17
  make it pass around one right? This is to me, this is the last.
• 22:20
  Year. I know, I know, I'm saying like
• 22:23
  for sure, for sure, but I'm saying this to me, this is the
• 22:25
  last year we can be happy with a round one exit.
• 22:27
  After that, I think everyone's had at least one year of full
• 22:31
  experience. They've had two playoff runs.
• 22:33
  At this point. You've got to start, you got at
• 22:35
  least make it the second round. You gotta do something.
• 22:36
  Otherwise, you know, to me it's just turning into the Leafs.
• 22:39
  Obviously we're in a way better contract situation.
• 22:41
  I trust our management way more than leaves and competent
• 22:43
  management. So many things are different,
• 22:45
  but you need results. And so again, just be
• 22:48
  overreacting to the last loss, right?
• 22:49
  I'm fully aware if we if we win the next one.
• 22:52
  I'm gonna pretend I never said this unfortunately reported, but
• 22:56
  but that's what goes through my mind.
• 22:57
  I'm like, what you need. You need your top guys to show
• 22:59
  up and the Tampa just completely shutting them down.
• 23:02
  Meanwhile, their top guys are showing up.
• 23:04
  I know Kucherov had a slow start to the series, but he's all over
• 23:06
  the place. Brandon.
• 23:06
  Dangerously talked about. Yeah, gas on like A7 Game Point
• 23:13
  St. There's this meme.
• 23:14
  It's like an X-ray and like, it just shows like a dog.
• 23:17
  And then it's like, this is Brandon Hagel.
• 23:20
  That dog in them? He does.
• 23:22
  He's such like a huge presence, just every time I see him do
• 23:27
  whatever he does on the eyes of like, imagine Bedard had that.
• 23:30
  Yeah, yeah. Charade, honestly.
• 23:33
  Yeah, You know, that was, I mean, you wanna go even further
• 23:36
  back. Brandon Hagel was at Habs
• 23:38
  development camp like before he even entered the NHL, and the
• 23:41
  Habs could have signed him and they didn't.
• 23:44
  Could have been what could have been, but.
• 23:46
  Could have been and he's on in the same contract.
• 23:48
  Yeah, I think it's eight times, like honestly 6.5.
• 23:51
  I think I saw that, but that that seems too crazy.
• 23:53
  Right. A steal.
• 23:54
  That's nuts. I will, I will say, and maybe we
• 23:57
  can move on after this, but I'm really encouraged from what I'm
• 24:00
  seeing from Dobesh, I feel like he's been stellar.
• 24:03
  Like going into it, we didn't really know if our goal Tony was
• 24:06
  gonna fall apart or not given how our goaltending was the
• 24:08
  whole season. But he's really like, I'm
• 24:12
  getting yourself Heloc vibes like in this, in this playoff,
• 24:15
  he's like he's, I feel like he's really coming into his own.
• 24:17
  I don't have to worry about him. You're the second person who's
• 24:21
  made that comparison. Like fair.
• 24:22
  I see it. But that's implying that Fowler
• 24:25
  like like when I was speaking to someone else about this, like
• 24:27
  Fowlers, like Price, they'll just like hello.
• 24:29
  Like, I think Dobesh is like a really solid goalie.
• 24:32
  Yeah, I just really like multiple.
• 24:34
  Supposed to be the price, you know what I mean?
• 24:35
  Like we're the goalie coming out of nowhere and saving our
• 24:38
  playoffs is the type of body. Yeah, no, I'm really happy with
• 24:40
  the best too. I just like, I don't know, I
• 24:43
  mean, this is getting into next year.
• 24:44
  We won't spend too much time on it, but it will be father.
• 24:46
  Will it be best? I think it's a conversation,
• 24:48
  people. Month tumbles go into the
• 24:49
  Oilers. I think so too, and I think you
• 24:52
  should. I, I, I can't wait to talk about
• 24:56
  that. That's OK.
• 25:00
  We can literally talk about this.
• 25:03
  We could talk about this series the entire episode.
• 25:05
  So I think it's a good call to move on.
• 25:07
  So let's go to the next one. We'll say, though, no, no Dobson
• 25:10
  yet. I think him coming back would be
• 25:12
  massive for the Habs. I think defensively so I thought
• 25:15
  he was skating in practice. So I'm like.
• 25:18
  A broken thumb or something, right?
• 25:19
  Yeah, but if he comes out of those five, I'd be super happy.
• 25:22
  I think that's a massive loss for us right now.
• 25:24
  And if he comes back at 70%, is Dobson at 70% better than
• 25:29
  Struble at 100%? Probably.
• 25:33
  Yeah, not that I've been. Obsessed Dr. Anything like I
• 25:35
  think Jack has been pretty solid.
• 25:36
  I think I think he outpaced he like outranks Struble at this
• 25:40
  point in the in the playoffs, but who knows?
• 25:42
  It's gonna be one of them too. If Dobson comes back, that would
• 25:44
  be huge for us. Alright, let's move on to the
• 25:45
  next one. Next we add Carolina versus
• 25:47
  Ottawa. This series is done for nothing.
• 25:51
  Sweep, pull out the brooms. We had me and Kevin at Carolina
• 25:54
  in five. Jackie also Caroline 5.
• 25:56
  Sorry, that was on the other page.
• 25:57
  We also Caroline in five suspenseful.
• 26:02
  So we all gave Ottawa too much credit on this one, but not too
• 26:05
  surprising. I will say bring it back a bit
• 26:08
  to what Jake mentioned about Anderson showing up for the
• 26:10
  playoffs. I think that this kind of idea
• 26:13
  of gritty player equals amazing playoff guy is just you just get
• 26:16
  stapled on it, right? So everyone's mind Brady could
• 26:19
  Chuck the second he hits the playoffs.
• 26:20
  This guy's built for playoffs. He's big, he scores, he does
• 26:23
  everything you need to do. And look, last year he was, he
• 26:25
  had a really solid series versus Toronto.
• 26:27
  But this year's embarrassing playoff performance?
• 26:29
  Really zero points -3 a bunch of stupid penalties that cost his
• 26:33
  team pretty much non-existent other than a negative for the
• 26:36
  team. I'm seeing a ton of rumors from
• 26:39
  probably bad sources, so I wouldn't put too much talking.
• 26:41
  I'm seeing, is Brady cache time in Ottawa done?
• 26:43
  Is he going somewhere else? Does he want to go to the States
• 26:45
  to play with his brother? All sorts of crazy stuff.
• 26:48
  All I know is the narrative is not good around Ottawa and not
• 26:50
  good around Brady could Chuck. I don't know what you guys
• 26:53
  thought of that series. It was.
• 26:54
  I watched some of the games and it was pretty pretty like other
• 26:57
  than the first one I found a bit boring.
• 26:59
  But after that, it was very entertaining but very lopsided.
• 27:02
  I feel like Carolina just does this.
• 27:04
  Yeah, I'm like, I'm not. I'm not surprised, but I thought
• 27:07
  it would be closer, like the games were closer than what A-40
• 27:12
  sleep should be. Yeah, Almar, the fact that Almar
• 27:14
  turned up and everybody else turned down is just like a
• 27:17
  testament to to anything can happen in the playoffs.
• 27:21
  Like the whole season they were good except Almark and now is
• 27:23
  the the the opposite. But Brady really kind of like
• 27:28
  let me down as somebody that wasn't watching these playoffs
• 27:30
  and I had Brady. He carried me to a championship
• 27:32
  this year in fantasy. So I'm really happy.
• 27:33
  But I don't like is he overrated AF like in DNL like.
• 27:41
  No, I don't think he's overrated, but I know what
• 27:44
  you're saying. Like he needs to be able to show
• 27:45
  up in these places, in these. Times like I saw Ottawa Ottawa
• 27:48
  fans be like if we're trading Brady like these are the players
• 27:50
  that have to get in return and someone was like, I need like he
• 27:53
  sure, Brad from New Jersey and I'm just like, I feel like I'd
• 27:55
  rather just keep those guys. I don't know, but would you
• 27:59
  trade these for Brady? Could Chuck if you're in New
• 28:01
  Jersey? One, it's tough because.
• 28:03
  It's doesn't make either the computer for sure, rather keep
• 28:06
  you sure. It's tough to separate the.
• 28:09
  Watching the playoffs either, you know.
• 28:10
  Yeah, it's tough to separate the fantasy aspect, right, because
• 28:13
  obviously in Brady and Bangers leagues is so much better than
• 28:16
  here, right. So it's hard to separate it with
• 28:18
  real life. So that's why the first instinct
• 28:20
  I agree with Jake. I'm like, no, I'd rather have
• 28:21
  Chuck. But in real life, which ones
• 28:23
  more valuable? I don't know.
• 28:25
  Brady still had an unreal season this year.
• 28:27
  If we ignore the playoffs, obviously that's a big
• 28:29
  component. But if we ignore the playoffs,
• 28:30
  he was fantastic. I wouldn't want to get rid of
• 28:32
  him. I I think if Ottawa gets rid of
• 28:34
  him, it's a bit of an overreaction.
• 28:36
  He it's not like it's 2 playoffs in a row that he didn't show up.
• 28:38
  It's just this one. But it's just a lot of stuff
• 28:40
  swirling around, I think especially post Olympics with
• 28:43
  the whole USA thing and him playing in a Canadian market.
• 28:46
  And again, it could just be journalists trying to get clicks
• 28:48
  and stir up stuff that doesn't even exist.
• 28:49
  Because I know if you ask me this at the start of this
• 28:52
  season, in the offseason, I would say all these rumors were
• 28:54
  BS and there's no chance they're trading him now.
• 28:56
  I'm like up to 5% chance. So I'm still not who's gonna.
• 28:59
  Treat him though, that's the thing.
• 29:01
  Like. Florida.
• 29:02
  Who are they giving up? Verhagen and friends like it's.
• 29:06
  Yeah, I mean, no, anything. What it really comes down to is
• 29:09
  if Brady makes it clear that he doesn't wanna resign an auto at
• 29:12
  the end of his contract, then they have to trade him and then
• 29:14
  they'll have to find something that works.
• 29:16
  So that's the only if he doesn't want to leave, he's not gonna
• 29:18
  leave. So it's really up to him.
• 29:20
  So it's really depends how much these rumors are real or not.
• 29:24
  Before going to the Hurricane side of it, I want to talk about
• 29:27
  briefly, Logan Stankovic. I feel like we got it right,
• 29:30
  like. He's so.
• 29:32
  That's just nuts. I was watching the games every
• 29:34
  time. He's just unreal.
• 29:36
  It really is crazy how that whole saga kind of worked out
• 29:39
  for Carolina in the end. The whole natures for ranting
• 29:42
  and turning into Stankov and picks.
• 29:44
  It's he's been unreal in the playoffs.
• 29:46
  Yeah, this is like he's exactly mediocre enough for him to
• 29:50
  thrive in the wrong environment is exactly what Elers too.
• 29:55
  And I saw someone. Taylor Hall or Yeah.
• 29:58
  You make the playoffs and points for like, yeah, before
• 30:01
  yesterday. Yeah, someone else is now
• 30:03
  leading the playoffs. Points hint At one point this
• 30:07
  player was a forward anyways. Well, we got there.
• 30:12
  Look at. There may still be he may still
• 30:13
  be we'll talk about it soon. Stay tuned.
• 30:16
  But this this is like this is prototypical.
• 30:19
  Exactly the opposite of what I'm saying from the hub is that this
• 30:22
  is a team firing on all cylinders.
• 30:24
  I feel like they're getting more out of their line to than their
• 30:28
  line one right now. And also someone commented on
• 30:31
  our previous YouTube video basically saying that, you know,
• 30:33
  we were wrong about our take on the Hurricanes of them making it
• 30:36
  2-3 rounds and then just getting eliminated.
• 30:38
  I'm kinda I'm. Kind of doing wrong thing.
• 30:40
  They don't think they're gonna make it 2-3 rounds, or did they?
• 30:43
  Think no, no, they're saying like this is like not a sure
• 30:46
  thing that they're losing in round three type thing.
• 30:48
  OK, Like I feel like we all still think that.
• 30:50
  It's like, yeah, they always start off.
• 30:51
  Audi mean listen, we have the wait does it the semifinals
• 30:55
  basically. I think that out of the East,
• 30:59
  like I think that I've had Philly beating them and now I
• 31:03
  think that they're gonna beat Philly.
• 31:06
  But yeah. And then I mean Tampa or
• 31:08
  Montreal, whoever. Or bar Buffalo.
• 31:11
  I mean, those are all tough. ShopRite is just the fact that
• 31:14
  like Ottawa was like people love to pick Ottawa the underdog and
• 31:18
  like their favorite dark horse team because they're kind of fun
• 31:20
  ish. But Carolina's just like a team
• 31:23
  that's so cemented here. I was never worried about them
• 31:25
  losing the series and then they play the 7th or the 8th seed in
• 31:29
  the Round 2. Like it would be so easy to pick
• 31:31
  them and then their first real matchup would have been against
• 31:33
  like, you know, Tampa, Montreal or Buffalo.
• 31:35
  And that's going to be a hard matchup.
• 31:36
  But anything can happen in A7 game series.
• 31:38
  So it's not crazy to make it all the way.
• 31:40
  But I don't think I'd give us too much Flack for saying, yeah,
• 31:44
  we have them losing the circumference final, Yeah.
• 31:47
  No, no, it's just like, I gotta get it.
• 31:50
  Like I, I, I, like we're, I think we're right, By the way, I
• 31:52
  think they will lose in the Eastern Conference final, but
• 31:55
  it's all like a sure thing that they're gonna lose.
• 31:57
  Yeah, I feel a little better about them this year.
• 32:00
  Previous year. Exactly.
• 32:01
  But it's also very reactionary because they just swept Ottawa,
• 32:03
  so yeah. Getting swept in the Eastern
• 32:06
  Conference finals is literally their thing.
• 32:07
  Last year, they had their first Eastern Conference finals win in
• 32:11
  like 15 years, and they had made the Eastern Conference finals
• 32:15
  four years in a row or something like that, and they got swept 3
• 32:17
  times. It was.
• 32:18
  It's just a crazy stat. They still lost the series in
• 32:20
  five games. They won one game.
• 32:21
  Yeah. So now we can't keep quoting
• 32:22
  that crazy status in as much of a fun way.
• 32:24
  It's funny when it's just a straight 0.
• 32:26
  But anyways, that's what they're known for.
• 32:27
  They're not gonna go up against a real opponent until the
• 32:29
  conference finals. I'm sorry.
• 32:30
  I know. I hope I don't get.
• 32:32
  I hope none of my other people on my team listen to this.
• 32:34
  Because the Amish come for you. Because I'm not not to.
• 32:38
  Throw you to Philly team. Not that they're shade to the
• 32:43
  Pennsylvania teams, but I mean, realistically, I think Caroline
• 32:46
  is gonna have an easy time with them.
• 32:48
  But so I think the real challenge is going to be the
• 32:50
  Atlantic. And I still give the edge to the
• 32:53
  Atlantic. So I think I still stand by what
• 32:55
  we said. I will say that I think one of
• 32:57
  the reasons we mentioned in the previous episode, 1 of the
• 32:59
  reasons why everyone had Ottawa as their dark horse is because I
• 33:02
  do think despite winning the entire conference there,
• 33:05
  Carolina is still underrated somehow.
• 33:07
  Because I think they're not flashy and I think they've just
• 33:11
  been around for so long. Keep making it to the third
• 33:13
  round, but not further where it's, it's kind of like name
• 33:17
  fatigue, if that makes sense. So I think that's why a lot of
• 33:20
  people had Ottawa. But again, we all had Caroline
• 33:22
  and Five should have put them a sweep, but let's move on to the
• 33:24
  next one. I will say I just wanna shout
• 33:26
  out Blake Creamer, who he's his office pools team.
• 33:31
  Creaming and Dreaming is in first place in the office pools
• 33:37
  currently and he has Logan Stankovic on his team.
• 33:40
  And I was I was a little shocked when he picked Stankovic.
• 33:44
  I will say he he has definitely like the the most points right
• 33:47
  now. But from what we've done in
• 33:50
  office pools before, like you don't want to spread yourself
• 33:53
  too thin. You kind of want to consolidate
• 33:54
  into the team that you think are gonna go furthest.
• 33:56
  I think Blake's team is maybe consolidated like done enough
• 34:01
  where he has too many teams involved.
• 34:03
  But his team is on fire right now.
• 34:04
  So listen, he's in first place for a reason.
• 34:06
  I just want to shout out because I remember seeing this coin pick
• 34:08
  and being like, I don't know if I would have gone there because
• 34:10
  he only has a whole from Carolina.
• 34:12
  It's like all host England are the only two forwards that he
• 34:15
  chose. It's wild.
• 34:16
  But then they open. He's been insane.
• 34:18
  Crazy. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
• 34:20
  I was like, I was surprised he didn't with Star Venture.
• 34:21
  Like Jarvis was fetch or something.
• 34:23
  But. Yeah, no, that's crazy.
• 34:25
  OK, let's go to the Battle of Pennsylvania, which at first I
• 34:29
  was ready to write off as a boring series because not
• 34:32
  boring. But to an outside observer, you
• 34:33
  know, it'll kind of looked like the sweep was going to happen.
• 34:36
  And that's not boring, especially as a as a as a Flyers
• 34:39
  fan, but as a neutral, you kind of want everything.
• 34:42
  Seriously, go to seven and have all over times.
• 34:43
  Pretty much what's happening in our series is what you want for
• 34:47
  other people, series for your entertainment, not in your own
• 34:50
  because it kills your heart. But yeah.
• 34:51
  So right now the series is 31 Philly.
• 34:54
  They are currently playing as we record.
• 34:55
  Yeah, last I checked. Is it still 32?
• 34:57
  Pittsburgh? 32 Pittsburgh, 12 minutes left
• 34:59
  in the third period so. OK, so there is a chance that
• 35:03
  either Philly comes back in the series is over by the time this
• 35:05
  comes out or this is going to six.
• 35:07
  So it's pretty crazy how the series started.
• 35:10
  I think it's it's easy to forget that this was the 7th and eighth
• 35:13
  seed, right? It felt because Pittsburgh was
• 35:15
  hanging around that top of the the second in the division of
• 35:18
  all season, and Philly just shot up out of nowhere and squeaked
• 35:21
  into the playoffs in that third in the division.
• 35:23
  But then you realize how much stronger the Atlantic was, yeah,
• 35:26
  than the metro. And so they're right next to
• 35:28
  each other. So I don't think it was it's
• 35:30
  actually that much of an underdog as it may have seemed
• 35:32
  on the outside. Both Kevin and I had Pittsburgh
• 35:35
  in six. Jackie had Philly in six.
• 35:36
  She's feeling pretty good right now.
• 35:40
  Who was? And yeah, it's until the last
• 35:44
  game and a half where Pittsburgh is actually doing something.
• 35:46
  It feels like kind of what we alluded to earlier on about the
• 35:49
  star players not playing that much of A role.
• 35:52
  I felt like Crosby was kind of invisible, which is very unlike
• 35:54
  him to in in big situations. The, I mean, they all were kind
• 35:58
  of invisible. The only guy who really showed
• 35:59
  up was a Porter Martone, right? That that kid would go monster.
• 36:06
  He's so good. OHS, I would say I I and this
• 36:11
  this is just like this is not analysis, but let me let me just
• 36:15
  point this out. OK, Philly has a bunch of
• 36:18
  players with hella interesting names.
• 36:23
  Denver Barkey. You know Alex Bump.
• 36:29
  What's wrong with Alex Bump? I just like, I think that's one
• 36:32
  of the ones that I was telling you guys in the offseason how I
• 36:34
  thought that they just on like daily face off they didn't have.
• 36:37
  No, that was the they didn't know.
• 36:38
  That was Daniel Boone situation where you just said bump and I'm
• 36:43
  I'm like, OK, that's just their placeholder for when they think
• 36:46
  when they figure out who's gonna go there.
• 36:47
  I didn't realize this actual flight.
• 36:51
  Yeah, Like, look, let me be clear.
• 36:53
  I'm, I'm a big Philly fan here. I'm just like, I'm looking at
• 36:56
  their names. And I'm just like Forster, you
• 36:59
  know, like Man of the forest. I don't know.
• 37:01
  Yeah, the secret to this? I love that analysis.
• 37:05
  That's better than numbers. Somebody say yeah.
• 37:08
  No, but, but, but all kidding aside, I actually, I think, I
• 37:13
  think Pittsburgh's gonna win tonight.
• 37:14
  I'm not sure what happened because right before we started
• 37:17
  recording, Crosby was injured, so maybe he's hurt.
• 37:19
  Now he's good. He's trying.
• 37:21
  He's playing. OK.
• 37:22
  So yeah, I think that I'm not surprised they're putting up a
• 37:25
  fight. But what has happened four times
• 37:27
  in Stanley Cup history that teams come back from 30?
• 37:29
  Like I think Philly stronger and they're outplaying them.
• 37:34
  So unless the, uh, their heroics of artours Sheila's is gonna say
• 37:38
  like. Stewart Skinner let the team
• 37:40
  down there rolling what she loves and listen, maybe that was
• 37:43
  the solution. And also Matvey, Michkov
• 37:46
  scratched that's. Really.
• 37:48
  I didn't see. That he was scratched for
• 37:50
  tonight, for tonight's game, so. I'm not drafting him if I was in
• 37:55
  multiple leagues. This is when I say I'm not
• 37:57
  touching him in any of my leagues.
• 37:58
  I'll be in one league and I will not be touching.
• 38:01
  I I think how would he have to draw for you to take a flyer on
• 38:03
  him? I would never know, no pun.
• 38:06
  I I would not. Did you, did you consciously do
• 38:08
  that? My mind just works at such a
• 38:11
  high level that I say the puns without even realizing them.
• 38:13
  That was great. He's a typical player that I
• 38:18
  never drafted and I'm happy to miss out on if he ends up
• 38:20
  succeeding type of thing. You know what you said?
• 38:21
  You said this. That exact same quote was said
• 38:25
  by Kevin about Trevor Siegrist going into the season, he said.
• 38:28
  I don't mind missing out on those egress.
• 38:29
  Resurgence and listen, say I missed out and I still won the
• 38:32
  league, So what does that? Say I got You know what?
• 38:34
  There you go. But no, I agree that this is
• 38:37
  just nuts everywhere else. You removed your just Jake.
• 38:43
  I did. I did wanted to forget about it,
• 38:48
  but I've been reminded thrice. Yeah.
• 38:53
  No, look, I, I'm not surprised that Pittsburgh is putting up a
• 38:56
  fight. This is a, this is a classic
• 38:58
  example of of, you know, history and experience and everything
• 39:02
  like this. This team is won together many a
• 39:04
  time, but I I mean. Yeah, I'm feeling the Magic
• 39:07
  series. I'm, I'm just too optimistic.
• 39:10
  Maybe I'm just too optimistic. And I want Philly to Pittsburgh
• 39:13
  to win. But I feel like if they win this
• 39:15
  Game 32, if they're gonna feel he's gonna get a little nervous.
• 39:18
  And if it if it goes to a Game 7, I'll bet on Pittsburgh.
• 39:24
  That's all I'm saying. Wow.
• 39:26
  And I don't make. Bets I just, I, I don't see it
• 39:30
  happening, but at least they're making the series interesting.
• 39:32
  I will say I'm in the heart of this.
• 39:34
  I'm in the middle of both Pittsburgh literally and
• 39:37
  everyone that I on, I'm on 2 hockey teams and everyone in
• 39:41
  each hockey team is either a Pittsburgh fan or a Philly fan.
• 39:44
  And so it's been very entertaining.
• 39:45
  It's funny actually, there was a couple of my games were
• 39:47
  scheduled for when Pittsburgh Philly were playing, including
• 39:49
  tonight. And on the bench, the guys will
• 39:51
  have their phones with the game on.
• 39:54
  So like in between shifts when you're on the bench, everyone's
• 39:56
  like huddled around watching the, the phone to see what's
• 39:58
  going on. So it's a, it's a pretty cool
• 39:59
  environment and you just have both.
• 40:01
  Both sides in the locker room and it's it's kind of crazy.
• 40:04
  It's fun, but. Like a little bit less surprised
• 40:07
  that you guys didn't win a game this season that.
• 40:11
  You think watching tape like with the iPad on the bench and
• 40:13
  look at the place that were happening?
• 40:14
  Nope. Like I did you tell me you guys
• 40:18
  like watched, you know, like your game after you play till I
• 40:22
  see where you went wrong. Did anyone zoom in on the bench
• 40:25
  be like there was no focus? Or communication.
• 40:29
  I feel like that may be part of the problem.
• 40:32
  It definitely doesn't help. I'm not a coach, but I think I
• 40:37
  think we're on to something. Oht who do you guys think?
• 40:41
  Who do you think has a better chance of beating Carolina if
• 40:44
  one of these teams had to go through?
• 40:46
  So I think Philly is winning the series, but I feel like
• 40:49
  Pittsburgh has a better chance of beating Carolina.
• 40:51
  Don't ask me why, that's just my gut feeling.
• 40:53
  I feel like Philly and Carolina place similar, but Carolina is
• 40:57
  like the best team at playing that style, so I tend to agree
• 41:01
  with you. I feel like Pittsburgh would
• 41:03
  have probably a better chance at that.
• 41:04
  Yeah, beating Carolina. Carolina, I think, I think that
• 41:09
  you'd have like a tough time out energizing them, if that makes
• 41:13
  sense. And that's where Phillies
• 41:15
  beating Pittsburgh, they're just like wearing them down, whereas
• 41:17
  Pittsburgh could maybe be a little bit more strategic and,
• 41:20
  and, you know, just like use the collective hockey Iqs to
• 41:24
  actually bolster their chances. Yeah, last thing on this series
• 41:27
  I wanted to mention was that absolutely insane play by Owen
• 41:31
  Tippett shorthanded, do you guys see, on the Garnet Hathaway
• 41:33
  goal? That was one of the like.
• 41:35
  That was one of the nicest assists I've seen.
• 41:38
  Jake, have you seen it? I did I like I can't remember it
• 41:42
  vividly, but I I saw. This is a call to action.
• 41:44
  If anyone's been, you know, watching their focusing on their
• 41:46
  series and not they're not a Pittsburgh, Philly fan, look up
• 41:49
  that highlight because it is truly magnificent.
• 41:53
  And I'm a huge Owen Tippett fan. He's definitely a guy that I
• 41:55
  would have on my team next year. You traded for him this year.
• 41:58
  I know I'm I'm a big believer in in his his Bangor profile and
• 42:02
  what he can do points wise if given the opportunity.
• 42:05
  And that was just some people commenting on it being like,
• 42:08
  every once in a while, Owen Tip it just decides to be prime
• 42:11
  Gretzky and he only he could do it for multiple games in a row.
• 42:15
  But yeah, it was crazy. So I just wanted to bring that
• 42:17
  up. Alright.
• 42:18
  Should we move on to the Western Conference?
• 42:19
  We should. Let's do it.
• 42:21
  OK, Colorado versus LA. Anze Kopitar is officially
• 42:27
  retired. End of an era.
• 42:29
  He was an absolute legend. Colorado in four, as both Kevin
• 42:33
  and I predicted. Jackie said Colorado in five.
• 42:36
  I said last episode that the hottest take of the entire
• 42:38
  episode was Jakey saying that L would win a game.
• 42:41
  I went on a big rant about it, happy to be proven right.
• 42:43
  LA did not have any. They did not belong in the
• 42:46
  playoffs and I say good riddance.
• 42:49
  You're gonna die down at some point.
• 42:53
  It'll die down as soon as Darcy Kemper retires.
• 42:57
  The only, the only thing that I want to say from this is that I
• 43:02
  actually don't think LA was as horrendous as you said.
• 43:05
  It's just more that Colorado is amazing.
• 43:07
  I just got more and more confident that they're a wagon
• 43:11
  and they're gonna be so good. So but.
• 43:13
  They're still my prediction to win it, all of it.
• 43:17
  The best thing the whole season, they were the best team going
• 43:19
  into the playoffs. Like there's a reason why they
• 43:20
  were heavy favorites. Um, I'm not surprised they swept
• 43:24
  LA, but I do think that next round, like both we'll, we'll
• 43:28
  talk about Dallas and Minnesota now, but those are two heavy
• 43:31
  hitters, right? So I think they're gonna have
• 43:33
  their work cut out for them. We saw Dallas beat Colorado last
• 43:35
  year. So listen, I'm not, I'm not just
• 43:38
  giving it to Colorado because they looked like the best team
• 43:41
  all season. Yeah, I view it.
• 43:43
  As it's gonna be super tough 100%.
• 43:45
  Have you had a similar to Carolina situation?
• 43:47
  They had a super easy first round opponents.
• 43:50
  They got the sweep. Look, getting the sweep done,
• 43:52
  any opponent could win any game. So it's still impressive.
• 43:55
  But yeah, I'm not ready to crown them the best team in the West
• 43:59
  or in the league just because they were able to beat a team
• 44:01
  that shouldn't have been in the playoffs.
• 44:02
  And but I will, I will say though, it feels like the
• 44:05
  Panarin trade did work out for them in terms of like what they
• 44:08
  wanted to achieve. Like he got them to the
• 44:10
  playoffs. He was their best player as soon
• 44:12
  as he was on the team. He kind of sucks.
• 44:14
  They lost yell at the same time, right?
• 44:15
  Maybe things have been a little bit differently if they had more
• 44:17
  star power there, but Kopitar leaving leaves a massive hole
• 44:21
  for them at centre next season. So I wonder if we see any
• 44:24
  offseason moves that our fantasy relevant there or if it's just a
• 44:28
  Byfield. Yeah, so I'm curious, but also
• 44:32
  goaltending. This is 2 two teams, Colorado
• 44:36
  and LA feel like going into the playoffs swap their starters
• 44:40
  going into the series, right? Like Wedgewood completely took
• 44:43
  over over Blackwood. They ran with him.
• 44:45
  You won every game. Forsberg, I think gave them the
• 44:47
  best chance to win by far. And this is the guy that was the
• 44:50
  backup billion auto Iowa not too long ago.
• 44:52
  So it kind of goes to show that anything can happen with these
• 44:54
  goalies and then you just get hot and then you deserve a
• 44:56
  starting spot. So I wonder what happens next
• 44:58
  year. Yeah, I can tell you Darcy
• 45:01
  Kemper will never be on my team again.
• 45:05
  But I'm gonna remember that and something's gonna happen next
• 45:07
  year where you'll have to pick him up or stream him or
• 45:09
  something, and then he'll get his karma on you.
• 45:14
  Yeah, honestly, I was gonna say if I have to pick him, if he's,
• 45:17
  if I could pick him up for free, maybe I would.
• 45:19
  But even then. Not it'll be like a back-to-back
• 45:21
  where you need to start on the Sunday and you pick him up and
• 45:23
  then he doesn't start at the same goal.
• 45:24
  He gets the the. Back.
• 45:25
  Yeah, exactly. Last round, every last pick,
• 45:30
  every single player in the NHL is taken.
• 45:32
  Alex Bump, Denver Barkey, you name it.
• 45:34
  You know the choice between Matt and Mitch Garver, Darcy Kemper.
• 45:38
  Who are you picking? For me, it's easy.
• 45:41
  I'd rather a scratched Matthew Mitch Gov than a Darcy Kemper
• 45:44
  who can actively think my stats. Hot takes.
• 45:50
  It depends if I see Matt Matt, Shady Maple.
• 45:54
  Deep dives. Would that make you more likely
• 45:58
  or less? Likely it depends which section
• 46:02
  he's eating from. If he's in the bakery section,
• 46:04
  then maybe less likely. Alright, let's go to the next
• 46:09
  one. This is a way more interesting
• 46:10
  series. Dallas versus Minnesota.
• 46:13
  There are currently tied 22 series.
• 46:16
  All three of us had Minnesota and seven.
• 46:18
  So right now we're right on track for our predictions.
• 46:21
  It's it's looking pretty, pretty crazy.
• 46:24
  Some names that stand out to me. First of all, both goalies,
• 46:27
  unbelievable right after getting lit up the first game really
• 46:30
  pulled it together for the next three and it's been amazing.
• 46:33
  The Great Wall of Saint Paul, Jasper Walstead, again, super
• 46:37
  interested to see what's going to happen with that writing
• 46:39
  physician going into next year. I wouldn't be shocked if there's
• 46:41
  an offseason trade where they ship out.
• 46:43
  Gus. I mean, it's crazy because just
• 46:45
  this fast trade deadline, it was Walsted's name who was the one
• 46:48
  who was going to get shipped out.
• 46:49
  And it just doesn't make sense for them to have both these
• 46:51
  goalies. They could turn 1 into a premium
• 46:54
  asset if they play their cards right.
• 46:55
  So it'll be really interesting to see.
• 46:57
  But yeah, so both goalies have been unbelievable.
• 46:59
  And then I'd say if I had to choose one top guy from both
• 47:04
  sides, it's got to be Matt Boldy from from Minnesota.
• 47:07
  I think he's still good. Insane.
• 47:08
  That overtime goal was absolutely insane.
• 47:11
  And then my top Dallas guy, who's the top?
• 47:14
  Who's Johnston? Maybe he's been pretty sick.
• 47:16
  To Shane does the most points. Do she's been really sick also?
• 47:20
  Yeah, I think it's just the power play.
• 47:22
  Like I I remember hearing the staff that I think almost all of
• 47:26
  Dallas's goals are on the power play this series and Minnesota
• 47:30
  just dominating them at five on five, which tells me that I feel
• 47:33
  like I'm giving the better Oz to Minnesota for the rest of the
• 47:36
  season. Like this here is tied to two.
• 47:38
  I think this one's going to seven.
• 47:39
  It's it's giving basically the Western Conference finals
• 47:41
  version of of tampon and Montreal, right.
• 47:44
  So I think it's going to 7. I think both power plays are
• 47:46
  great, but I think at some point you can only rely on the power
• 47:50
  play. You've got to score goals at
• 47:51
  five on five and getting giving Minnesota the edge there.
• 47:54
  Goaltending has been nuts. I will say man.
• 47:56
  As well as hasn't had Zuccarello for the last three games, which
• 47:59
  is a factor, right? Like that's a staple piece in
• 48:03
  the top 6 and on the power play. Europe hints has been out the
• 48:07
  whole series, and it doesn't seem like he's gonna be back for
• 48:09
  the series. So Dallas is also down.
• 48:11
  And I will say another standout for me from Minnesota is Brock
• 48:14
  Faber. Yeah, he's been.
• 48:16
  He's been really, really nuts. Yeah, yeah, this is this is like
• 48:20
  a typical, it needs to be the second defenseman on his team
• 48:23
  kind of example to thrive. You know, I feel like I feel
• 48:26
  like he's been a huge part of it and honestly why I see the
• 48:31
  series coming down to the goalies and I think Wallace,
• 48:34
  that's gonna help play on under as he has been.
• 48:37
  Drinking just on under hater. Yeah, yeah. 11, Jake to rule
• 48:42
  them all, you know. Yeah.
• 48:45
  To be clear, it's Yakov. Divisional gonna say.
• 48:50
  But I can see the winner of this series going all the way to the
• 48:54
  end. Like I said the same thing about
• 48:56
  Tampa, Montreal. I feel like the winner of this
• 48:58
  series is going all the way to Stanley Cup.
• 48:59
  I can see the same thing here. Like I know Colorado is the big
• 49:02
  juggernaut there, but I like I like these teams a lot and I
• 49:05
  feel like both of them match up really well against Colorado.
• 49:08
  So I guess we'll see like the Queen Hughes trade was like one
• 49:10
  of the best in season trades that you could have done for
• 49:12
  this Minnesota team is completely changed their the
• 49:15
  look of their roster. So same question as you asked in
• 49:18
  the last one. Who do you think has a better
• 49:20
  shot against Colorado, Dallas or Minnesota?
• 49:24
  Honestly, probably Dallas has a better shot just because I did
• 49:26
  it last year. Um, but I would give me a sort
• 49:32
  of pretty good shot as well type of thing.
• 49:33
  You know what I mean? Maybe Dallas just better.
• 49:35
  I'm rooting for Minnesota. I know we have a lot of Dallas
• 49:37
  signs that this court and everything like that, but in my
• 49:39
  office pool team went harder. Minnesota.
• 49:42
  Wow, I can't believe you just outed yourself.
• 49:44
  You're gonna get some some hate. Coming to get a lot of hate
• 49:47
  comments now but it's nothing personal.
• 49:49
  Please. I promise I'll be happy for
• 49:52
  either of these teams. Like make it far to be honest
• 49:54
  so. Yeah, I, I, I know what you're
• 49:57
  saying. The dollars did it last year.
• 49:58
  I I just see that this is a much different Colorado team.
• 50:03
  So I think that, I mean I don't think any of them are gonna be
• 50:06
  Colorado, but if there's one that has a chance, I'm honestly
• 50:10
  so 5050 that I'll just agree with you that it's going to be
• 50:13
  Dallas. You know what would be crazy
• 50:16
  though? We talked about the goalies and
• 50:18
  we always see when Edmonton struggles, we see that pic of
• 50:22
  like Oilers traded the pick that ended up being Walstead for like
• 50:25
  2 nothings. And then imagine the offseason
• 50:28
  Gustafson, the one that gets treated and he goes to Edmonton
• 50:30
  and then he ends up sucking for them.
• 50:32
  Like that would just be the cherry on top of irony
• 50:36
  everywhere. Full circle.
• 50:38
  I think they just need to bite the bullet and actually invest
• 50:41
  in a good goalie. So I think Gustafson would be a
• 50:42
  great gift for them. And look, you're gonna have to
• 50:44
  give up some actual stuff for him and you're gonna have to
• 50:47
  actually pay some salary cap form.
• 50:48
  But stop trying to do these bargain goalies.
• 50:50
  Your defensive structure is not good enough to have a below
• 50:54
  average goalie suddenly become a good average, a good goalie.
• 50:56
  They just become even worse. So just do it.
• 50:59
  You have those savings from David.
• 51:00
  I know you just wasted it on Tristan Jarry, but find the
• 51:03
  money elsewhere and and get it done.
• 51:05
  Because honestly, I'm surprised that Bowman still has a job.
• 51:07
  He's been one of the worst teams I've seen.
• 51:09
  The only guy worse to me is Ellie.
• 51:11
  We'll talk about the Oilers at the end, but if they if they
• 51:14
  lose first round, I think he's getting fired.
• 51:15
  I think everybody getting fired, yeah.
• 51:18
  Did. You guys see that?
• 51:19
  Different looking team next year.
• 51:21
  Do you see the video after Anaheim won the last game of Jay
• 51:25
  Woodcroft being like super happy?
• 51:27
  He's like, he's an assistant. He's an assistant coach for
• 51:29
  Anaheim right now. But obviously he was the coach
• 51:31
  for Edmonton before for Knoblock.
• 51:35
  And people think he got fired like prematurely.
• 51:38
  And sometimes you just fire the coach because you something to
• 51:40
  start up the team, right? And it works and and it works.
• 51:43
  Yeah. But yeah, I think it's just so
• 51:45
  funny seeing that is they knew what they were doing with the
• 51:47
  cameras too, because usually, you know, you pan on the team
• 51:50
  and celebrating stuff after the overtime goal.
• 51:51
  But now they just showed him celebrating in the back and it
• 51:53
  was, it was really funny. I think, I think when I went to
• 51:56
  bed, it was I didn't. I like some of these games are
• 51:58
  just too late for me to stay until the end.
• 52:00
  But I think when I went to bed, the Oilers were winning by two
• 52:03
  goals, right? Was it 31?
• 52:04
  .2 when I was on Twitter 2 Nothing.
• 52:06
  Edmonton yeah, that's I think that's why I went to bed as well
• 52:08
  and then to wake up to see them losing overtime like that's just
• 52:12
  gotta hurt anyways, we'll. Talk was a guy on my hockey team
• 52:14
  who the captain, my team actually, who's a huge Anaheim
• 52:17
  fan and he actually flew to Anaheim and watched the last,
• 52:21
  yeah, two wins versus McDavid and he had great seats.
• 52:24
  So it was. It was pretty cool.
• 52:25
  So your team huddles on the bench and you're captain
• 52:28
  abandoned ship and you're like. We were statistically eliminated
• 52:34
  from the playoffs about halfway through the season, so I don't
• 52:37
  blame anybody. OK, no, I take that one back
• 52:40
  then. Yeah, OK, let's go to the next
• 52:46
  one. Next we have the Vegas Golden
• 52:47
  Knights versus the Utah Mammoth. It is currently 21 for the
• 52:51
  Mammoth. They play tonight, so we'll see
• 52:53
  what happens there. I had Vegas in five, JK had
• 52:56
  Vegas in six. Kevin had Utah in seven.
• 52:58
  Right now it's looking good for Kevin 21.
• 53:01
  I honestly, it's been this this this is a late one, right, these
• 53:04
  last ones. So I haven't had the chance to
• 53:05
  watch as many lives. So it's been a lot of me
• 53:07
  watching highlights, but I'm really impressed with obviously
• 53:10
  it's easy to say with the with the two one series lead, but
• 53:14
  they're just they're getting it done.
• 53:15
  Vegas. Maybe it's the maybe it's the
• 53:17
  inverse of Carolina. Maybe they just have they have
• 53:20
  that name value right. So everyone kind of just thinks
• 53:23
  they're better than they are. I don't know.
• 53:24
  Is it the return of playoff mariner?
• 53:26
  I know that's a big storyline. The top guys just are kind of
• 53:29
  getting shut down. I thought John Tortorella might
• 53:31
  be able to rile them up and get them going, but maybe Bruce
• 53:35
  Cassidy wasn't the issue. So it's it's a pretty crazy
• 53:38
  series. Even though I put Vegas to win,
• 53:40
  I'd still rather Utah win. I think it's just way more fun
• 53:42
  and I like your team a lot. This is the one I'm following
• 53:45
  the least. I I wish I was following it more
• 53:47
  because I actually, it's pretty exciting because you talk to me
• 53:49
  as a substantial underdog and I think they have a chance.
• 53:52
  So. But yeah, I mean, we gotta move
• 53:55
  to like somewhere in the West Coast.
• 53:59
  I don't know because you. Should have got more middle.
• 54:02
  Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I just, I feel like it
• 54:07
  sucks because I do wanna stay up and watch all these games, but
• 54:09
  you can't. I thought being said, yeah, go.
• 54:13
  For those, I think this is like the the Dillon Gunter show and
• 54:16
  and the Melka. I feel like the goaltending has
• 54:18
  been a big question here. Like what was the last game?
• 54:20
  Carter, Heartland. Heart let in four goals on 12.
• 54:22
  Shots, Yeah. So you're not gonna win?
• 54:24
  But they only got 12 shots the entire game.
• 54:27
  It's not like he got four goals on 12 shots and got pulled.
• 54:29
  That was the entire game. So that's kind of crazy.
• 54:31
  That's not necessarily the best sign for Utah.
• 54:33
  Like, yes, they got the win. Yes, they scored four goals.
• 54:35
  But if you're taking twelve shots per game, that's not a
• 54:38
  winning recipe. Yeah, not, but maybe even hard
• 54:43
  it is. Yeah, well, I I said, I said I
• 54:46
  thought Aiden Hill was gonna be the starter at some point in
• 54:49
  this series, So I wouldn't be surprised if he's if he's
• 54:51
  starting the. Next game, I mean, he should
• 54:53
  start the next game. You don't go back to Carter
• 54:54
  after that performance. Is it happening?
• 54:57
  Like, do we know who's starting tonight?
• 55:01
  So let's talk about. This we should probably
• 55:03
  everyone. There.
• 55:05
  This kid is Carter Hart. Wow, that's crazy.
• 55:08
  OK. So he doesn't turn on towards
• 55:11
  100%. Yeah.
• 55:13
  Every team towards just goes to him like this.
• 55:16
  Yeah, that's crazy. Or are they just do not trust
• 55:18
  Aiden Hill at all, Which to be honest, is an amazing goalie.
• 55:22
  But you gotta give him a shot of your goalie does a performance
• 55:24
  like that. It's the same reason why
• 55:26
  Pittsburgh when she loves to Skinner. 100% when you have two
• 55:29
  guys who are similar level, like you have two options.
• 55:33
  Essentially A goalie puts up a stinker.
• 55:36
  Yeah, you go to the other one trying to get things going.
• 55:38
  So it's an interesting. I guess at this point Tortorella
• 55:40
  is like I'm riding or dying with the with Carter Hart.
• 55:42
  Because if we if performance like that doesn't get you pulled
• 55:46
  into switch, then I don't know what will.
• 55:47
  So we'll see what happens. But yeah, definitely for Utah.
• 55:50
  Love Guenther this year. This year I had Utah as one of
• 55:53
  my favorite teams going into the season.
• 55:55
  We're doing off season last year, but I had to avoid them
• 55:57
  because the playoff schedule. So I'm really hoping next year
• 56:00
  that they don't have a garbage playoff schedule so that I could
• 56:02
  actually get some of them because they're a really fun
• 56:04
  team. And they're their best players
• 56:05
  are popping off. Like Logan Cooley's going off
• 56:07
  counters one off. Like, I'm really liking what I'm
• 56:09
  seeing from this Utah team. This is the team that like, if
• 56:12
  they beat Vegas, like they're gonna be so confident they could
• 56:14
  go on and run. Like, I would not be shocked.
• 56:16
  Yeah, Yeah. I mean, when Utah versus
• 56:18
  Anaheim, that's anyone series. Alright, good segue, Josh.
• 56:23
  Yeah, yeah. Alright, go into the next one.
• 56:25
  Edmonton Oilers versus Anaheim Ducks.
• 56:27
  It is currently 31 series for Anaheim, just as we all
• 56:31
  predicted. Not I had Edmonton before Kevin
• 56:34
  and had Edmonton in 5G, had Edmonton in seven.
• 56:36
  So Jackie gave Anaheim the most respect, but I don't think any
• 56:40
  of us gave them enough respect. Or maybe the other way to look
• 56:42
  at it is all of us had way too much faith in a team that their
• 56:46
  goalie was Connor Ingram, Tristan Jarry.
• 56:48
  To be fairly did it last year with Stuart Skinner.
• 56:50
  They made the finals. They were a game away from
• 56:53
  winning the Stanley Cup. That's two years in a row,
• 56:55
  right? So it's like, I mean, what I'm
• 56:58
  taking away from this is that those stars are not showing up
• 57:01
  like McDavid has done barely anything.
• 57:03
  I mean, he's clearly injured, but I mean, it's still injured.
• 57:07
  McDavid is better than most players in the league, right?
• 57:09
  And it's. Just not better than Ryan
• 57:11
  failing, apparently, Yeah. Jobs Legend.
• 57:14
  I was at the game. I was at his first game where he
• 57:17
  got the hat trick and then wanted to shoot out.
• 57:18
  What are you really? Yeah, it was awesome.
• 57:20
  I mean, that's, that's, that's some crazy low right there.
• 57:22
  But how do you guys feel about the the goal and the call on the
• 57:24
  ice for the overtime goal? I think it was a good goal.
• 57:27
  I think I get the controversy, and I know that you get into the
• 57:30
  nitpicking about the actual text in the rulebook and how it
• 57:34
  works, but calling the ice was a goal so they have to disprove it
• 57:38
  conclusively for it to not be a goal.
• 57:39
  So I guess the the more controversial part is why was
• 57:42
  the call on the goal when it was so hard to see?
• 57:44
  And if you look at the goal line goes null ref like near the the
• 57:50
  net enough to be able to have it even.
• 57:52
  Have you seen those like a I like the pictures of the not
• 57:55
  even AI really drawing of like there's they put they put draw a
• 57:59
  circle around where the puck would be and then they draw a
• 58:01
  line where the line would be and they clearly it's a goal.
• 58:05
  I mean the IT was a goal like the puck crossed the line, but
• 58:07
  you couldn't prove the cross. The puck crossed the line and
• 58:10
  they should have been able to. I don't know how the ref on the
• 58:13
  ice called it a goal without even seeing it so.
• 58:16
  The burden of proof should have been to prove that it did cross
• 58:19
  as opposed to didn't. Yeah, it should not have been
• 58:21
  called that to begin with. Like 100% it wasn't conclusive.
• 58:25
  I this is the one where like they're down 31.
• 58:29
  And I see this way more likely than Boston coming back as an
• 58:34
  example. Yeah.
• 58:35
  Or Pittsburgh who just won. So now it's 32.
• 58:39
  Pittsburgh won. Well then I think it's more
• 58:41
  likely Pittsburgh comes back than Edmonton is down 31.
• 58:44
  Now technically yes, but solid 15 seconds ago, That's my high.
• 58:49
  Level Analysis. No, I just, I, I actually, I
• 58:54
  agree that he's he's clearly playing injured and it's
• 58:58
  affecting them big time. But I said it last week when we
• 59:02
  recorded if you have, if you have like a cutter goatee on
• 59:04
  your third line, and I know the lines have been shuffled right
• 59:07
  now. It just shows that this is a
• 59:08
  very deep team and they have a lot of good players.
• 59:12
  I'm not surprised they're putting up a fight either way.
• 59:15
  Like I don't think they're going to win next game.
• 59:17
  Anaheim, I think it's going to go to 6 for sure.
• 59:20
  But yeah, I mean, it's obviously Edmonds to lose right now.
• 59:22
  They're down 31. Yeah, I mean, this was the
• 59:25
  series where last week we mentioned how Cutter Gautier was
• 59:29
  the leading scorer for Anaheim was 69 points was very nice.
• 59:33
  And Connor McDavid had exactly twice the amount of points with
• 59:36
  138. So you literally were saying an
• 59:40
  injured McDavid is better than most players.
• 59:42
  Healthy McDavid is worth 2 cutter goatees apparently.
• 59:44
  And gutter hottie is unbelievable.
• 59:46
  So it's it's kind of not what's been going on.
• 59:49
  There's got to be something to be said about the fatigue of
• 59:51
  playing two full Stanley Cup finals, right?
• 59:54
  East Florida didn't make the playoffs.
• 59:56
  It's been injuries caught up with them.
• 59:58
  Edmonton, look, I don't know, there's so many, so many
• 1:00:01
  reasons. There's injuries, there's the
• 1:00:03
  fatigue, there's the fact that they have terrible goaltending
• 1:00:08
  as usual. There's so many reasons.
• 1:00:10
  And you know, to be fair, I don't want to not give credit
• 1:00:12
  where credit is due. I know has been playing really
• 1:00:15
  well. They've been doing a great job.
• 1:00:16
  The first two games with David got zero points, right.
• 1:00:18
  Jackson Lacombe, the former forward is leading the leading
• 1:00:22
  playoff points. OK this.
• 1:00:24
  Is the big reveal. That was the big yeah, sorry
• 1:00:26
  about that, steal your Thunder. But as Jakey alluded to it
• 1:00:30
  earlier. In the episode was said.
• 1:00:31
  Yeah. I mean, a lot of people don't
• 1:00:34
  know that it used to be a forward.
• 1:00:35
  Yeah, that's it. So that's why you gotta listen
• 1:00:38
  to the pod. But yeah, so I definitely don't
• 1:00:40
  want to take away from Anaheim. They deserve, they've been
• 1:00:42
  playing really, really well and they deserve it.
• 1:00:44
  And I think it goes both ways. Anaheim been playing amazing and
• 1:00:47
  Edmonton's been playing poorly and Anaheim deserves the win.
• 1:00:50
  And I think Anaheim easily going to close it out.
• 1:00:52
  You think they close it out next game?
• 1:00:54
  I think so. But I'm also the most of every
• 1:00:57
  time someone wins in the playoffs, I'm like they'll never
• 1:00:59
  lose again. So it's very hard.
• 1:01:01
  It's very hard to take my analysis too seriously once we
• 1:01:03
  get into the weeds of it. But but yeah, I think, I think
• 1:01:06
  Anaheim's gonna close it out. Objectively, like are you more
• 1:01:09
  confident in Buffalo or in an arm or?
• 1:01:12
  Equal. I'm more confident in Buffalo
• 1:01:13
  for sure. What you mean by that?
• 1:01:16
  No Buffalo closing. OHS yeah 100% Buffalo closing it
• 1:01:19
  down. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:20
  I mean, they just like Anaheim won four, three in overtime with
• 1:01:24
  a kind of controversial goal. Like I still think it would have
• 1:01:26
  been a goal, but that's how they won the most recent game.
• 1:01:28
  Anaheim won, I'm sorry, Buffalo on their most recent game 61.
• 1:01:32
  And the one goal came with 30 seconds left when no one cared
• 1:01:34
  anymore other than mine. Poor guy couldn't get the shut
• 1:01:36
  out. But yeah, and they got the the
• 1:01:39
  coach said I don't know what to do, you know, like they're out
• 1:01:42
  of ideas and they're just the worst team.
• 1:01:43
  So. So yeah, I'm more confident in.
• 1:01:45
  Buffalo, Buffalo is just a better team than Boston and they
• 1:01:48
  should win like right, like Edmonton is technically a better
• 1:01:51
  team than Anaheim. Like they should win, but
• 1:01:53
  they're not because they're choking.
• 1:01:55
  And yeah, I think I think what I'm getting from this this
• 1:01:59
  Edmonton team is I'm honestly joining the comparison to Josh's
• 1:02:02
  fantasy team this year where they like consolidated too much
• 1:02:05
  at the top and have goaltending. So when one of the top players
• 1:02:09
  ends up being injured or not originated over an.
• 1:02:12
  Hour one bleep to rule them all. OK.
• 1:02:17
  I actually, I actually said one earlier, although he did 5-5
• 1:02:21
  minutes ago or something. Yeah, OK. 222 bleeps to rule
• 1:02:24
  them all, but do you see the parallel I'm making?
• 1:02:27
  Like if if one of the star players ends up not delivering
• 1:02:30
  or is hurt or whatever, the team can't make up for it type of
• 1:02:32
  thing. Yeah, and I had Mike David,
• 1:02:34
  Andrew said. There you go, There you go.
• 1:02:37
  Yeah, I see the parallel very well and they both suck, so.
• 1:02:41
  Would you rather have Tristan Jarry or Darcy Kemper?
• 1:02:43
  That's the question. Next year.
• 1:02:46
  Or right now. Right.
• 1:02:48
  I I mean, I'm not taking either. You can't make.
• 1:02:51
  Me deep image comment that after what the people have lunch.
• 1:02:56
  Oh my God. Yeah, the faculty theory.
• 1:03:01
  A class I just, I mean, I, I, I'm not surprised that this is
• 1:03:05
  I'm the least surprised based on the fact that I had them go in
• 1:03:08
  the furthest, but I do I don't think Edmonton's down and out
• 1:03:12
  yet completely OK. I think that they're gonna put
• 1:03:15
  up a fight and I really do think it's going to seven.
• 1:03:18
  I don't know who's going to win from then, but I am.
• 1:03:21
  I'm very confident they're not making it to the Stanley Cup
• 1:03:24
  Finals this year. Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  Like I think I've never comes out of that upper part of the
• 1:03:28
  West, Minnesota, Dallas or Colorado.
• 1:03:33
  And just note they're. Washing, Yeah.
• 1:03:37
  So way too early bracket reset right now if you had to go
• 1:03:42
  through the bracket like how you how you changing your picks?
• 1:03:46
  Yeah, let's do the whole bracket, but like, do you think
• 1:03:48
  is winning the cup at this or if you wanna go through your whole
• 1:03:50
  bracket you can. Real, real quick, like obviously
• 1:03:53
  at this point, like looking at how this series are right now,
• 1:03:56
  I'm I go Buffaloes making it, Montreal's beating Tampa,
• 1:03:59
  Carolina's already in I'm going to Philly over Pittsburgh and
• 1:04:03
  then Carolina is going to be Pittsburgh, Montreal's going to
• 1:04:05
  Buffalo and then Montreal's going to be Carolina in these
• 1:04:08
  circumference final. Let me get the Stanley Cup on
• 1:04:11
  the other side. I think it's going to be
• 1:04:12
  Minnesota beating Dallas, then Minnesota beating Colorado and
• 1:04:18
  so that they're in the Western Conference final, and then I
• 1:04:19
  think Anaheim beats Edmonton, Utah beats Vegas, Utah beats
• 1:04:23
  Anaheim, and then Minnesota beats Utah, Minnesota, Montreal
• 1:04:28
  final, Montreal wins it. Let's.
• 1:04:30
  Go OHS Gee, what do you got? Next round I have Buffalo, Tampa
• 1:04:38
  Carolina, Philly, Carolina versus Tampa in the Eastern
• 1:04:43
  Conference Finals. Tampa wins.
• 1:04:45
  Then in the West I have Colorado, Colorado, Minnesota,
• 1:04:52
  Vegas, Anaheim, then Anaheim, Colorado.
• 1:04:58
  Wow. Auto Tampa and Colorado wins.
• 1:05:01
  Colorado Anaheim would be That would be another sweep, to be
• 1:05:03
  honest, 100. Percent, yeah.
• 1:05:05
  Yeah, in Colorado would demolish them.
• 1:05:07
  But I I do think that if, if they could beat Edmonton, they
• 1:05:09
  could definitely be Vegas or Utah.
• 1:05:11
  Yeah, for sure. I don't hate that.
• 1:05:13
  I think mine is similar. It's gonna be Buffalo, Montreal.
• 1:05:16
  I've got Carolina, Philly, then I've got Montreal, Carolina,
• 1:05:20
  then I've got Montreal in the finals, obviously.
• 1:05:22
  So I think that's correct E yeah.
• 1:05:25
  Then in the West I've got obviously Colorado is already
• 1:05:28
  there. Minnesota, Dallas is really
• 1:05:30
  tough. I'll go Dallas.
• 1:05:32
  Just that the people in this who are like me more than you guys,
• 1:05:34
  very good. And then I'll go Utah and
• 1:05:40
  Anaheim. I'm gonna go Utah over Anaheim
• 1:05:42
  and I'll go, I'll go Dallas over Colorado.
• 1:05:45
  I'm not sold on Colorado. And then I'll go Dallas over
• 1:05:49
  Utah and then Dallas, Montreal in the finals.
• 1:05:51
  And Montreal is obviously going to win the go.
• 1:05:53
  OK, so. This is a safe space where you
• 1:05:58
  can say even very briefly that there's maybe a non Montreal
• 1:06:03
  team that's gonna win if there is a non Montreal team that's
• 1:06:07
  gonna. Win Tampa.
• 1:06:09
  Is it? Yeah.
• 1:06:11
  I mean for me my my final team like the top.
• 1:06:16
  Would. Win it all, I think.
• 1:06:17
  I think it's the team that really Buffalo over Tampa now.
• 1:06:20
  Yeah, yeah, I I think whoever wins the Montreal campus here is
• 1:06:23
  going all the time. The Cup, I said that before.
• 1:06:25
  I still believe that. I think these are the two best
• 1:06:26
  teams in the Eastern Conference and I think one of them is going
• 1:06:30
  to make it all the way. You think they'd beat Minnesota?
• 1:06:33
  Um honestly it depends on the matchup.
• 1:06:35
  Like I feel like Colorado probably matches up better
• 1:06:37
  against a non Montreal team and I feel like it fits Tampa there.
• 1:06:46
  Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I feel like Tampa
• 1:06:47
  would beat Minnesota, but they lose against Colorado.
• 1:06:49
  Does that make sense? Yeah, I got.
• 1:06:52
  The matchups, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:06:53
  And then you you have Buffalo versus Dallas and then.
• 1:06:57
  Buffalo Baby. No way, Josh, come.
• 1:07:00
  On Buffalo all the way. Alex Lyon is gonna get only shut
• 1:07:04
  outs rest of the playoffs unless they play Montreal.
• 1:07:07
  There's no way Buffaloes making it that far without Josh Norris.
• 1:07:09
  I'm just putting it out there. Yeah.
• 1:07:13
  Yeah, he is injured. Shocked Pikachu.
• 1:07:17
  I can't wait for him to be on my fantasy team next year to be
• 1:07:19
  honest. Yeah, it's draft him again, but
• 1:07:23
  you're not allowed complaining when he gets injured.
• 1:07:25
  Depends how he gets hurt. If you take some face, something
• 1:07:27
  gets here. I'm gonna be.
• 1:07:28
  I'm gonna be. Hurt if you guys heard at dinner
• 1:07:31
  like Jack Hughes. You still can't.
• 1:07:32
  Yeah. Imagine you spot them at Shady
• 1:07:35
  Maple with each other years. You know you're screwed.
• 1:07:40
  That up. Me, Norris and Mitch Cobb
• 1:07:43
  hanging on the cheating people. Ohhhhh man alright, that wraps
• 1:07:50
  it up. Thank you to everybody for
• 1:07:51
  listening to this episode. I don't it doesn't have an
• 1:07:54
  official name at this time or second playoffs episode.
• 1:07:57
  Our second playoff episode there we go follow us on Spotify,
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• 1:08:03
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• 1:08:08
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• 1:08:16
  link to the Discord community. And yeah, this was a real fun
• 1:08:20
  one. I'm excited.
• 1:08:20
  I guess by the time, you know, the next episode drops, we're
• 1:08:24
  gonna be into Round 3. So we'll see what happens Round
• 1:08:28
  2. Sorry.
• 1:08:29
  OK. So I was like, where are we
• 1:08:30
  going for? We we might have some game
• 1:08:36
  sevens left by the time the next episode.
• 1:08:38
  Depends when when we're recording.
• 1:08:40
  But it's true. It's gonna be fun, honestly,
• 1:08:42
  like these playoffs have honestly been.
• 1:08:44
  I feel like they've been really some series have been really
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  fun. Some have just been just kinda
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  like pancakes. So we'll take what we can get.
• 1:08:50
  What's wrong with the pancakes? Yeah.
• 1:08:53
  I don't know the flood you. Know something fun?
• 1:08:56
  Some of them pancakes. Yeah.
• 1:08:58
  We hate packing. Everybody knows, first of all,
• 1:09:01
  in the breakfast debate, it's waffles, French toast, pancakes.
• 1:09:05
  So wow, pancakes is just, that's what it is.
• 1:09:08
  They're flat. That's crazy.
• 1:09:09
  I don't even know what my ranking is.
• 1:09:11
  Is that just like something everyone knows offhand?
• 1:09:13
  You know you're ranking. Jakey, everybody knows offhand.
• 1:09:19
  I mean, it's gotta be waffles first, right?
• 1:09:21
  Look, this is not crazy. I'll be perfectly honest, no
• 1:09:23
  matter what, of those three I'm having, I'm slapping on a ton of
• 1:09:25
  Nutella and that's pretty much all I'm tasting.
• 1:09:28
  Maple syrup over Nutella Maple syrup.
• 1:09:32
  Disagree. Really.
• 1:09:33
  Syrup and Nutella. OK, Jake just took it to a whole
• 1:09:36
  new level. 10 lbs is straight diabetes.
• 1:09:43
  There's levels to. This that you're here.
• 1:09:47
  We're gonna drop an episode on this.
• 1:09:51
  We we are. And then like, we could, we
• 1:09:52
  could do, we could do some proper research.
• 1:09:55
  OK, You guys are gonna try Nutella and Maples here.
• 1:09:59
  You know what, I'm willing to try it because it just can't be
• 1:10:02
  bad, but it might be a bit overkill.
• 1:10:04
  I feel like I'm perfectly happy with just the new.
• 1:10:06
  It's a little overkill not thinking about.
• 1:10:07
  It get a bit of banana on there. You know, that's a pretty nice
• 1:10:10
  one. A bit of banana or a lot of
• 1:10:12
  banana? I don't know what you want me to
• 1:10:17
  say. I was just curious what you were
• 1:10:20
  gonna say. Enough banana.
• 1:10:24
  Alright, we ended on that. You know, banana always.
• 1:10:28
  Yeah. Take it away, Ernie.
• 1:10:32
  Banana Nut Now Anger Management Fantasy Hockey podcast.
• 1:10:36
  Woo Woo woo. That was actually.
• 1:10:39
  Pretty good on the mind. I saw you hesitated, and I was
• 1:10:44
  like, wait, what's? About to happen.
• 1:10:48
  No, I didn't take.