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Full Show Podcast: 01 October 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 1: Early Edition with Spark for Business. Technology that keeps business moving.
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Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB.
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Speaker 2: A very good morning. Welcome to Thursday, six after five.
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Speaker 2: Coming up on the show, how much money is too
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Speaker 2: much money for health? Mitch McCann's in the US for us.
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Speaker 2: Funding changes for the film industry. We'll look at those
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Speaker 2: and teachers using AI to mark homework. The agenda. Thursday
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Speaker 2: the 1st of October, pilots have had a scrap on
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Speaker 2: a flight from Dubai to Tel Aviv. Serious one too.
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Speaker 2: One of them went completely nuts, stabbed the other pilot
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Speaker 2: in the cockpit and apparently tried to crash the plane.
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Speaker 2: Plane plummets 17,000 feet in less than two minutes and
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Speaker 2: is then diverted to land at Saudi Arabia.
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Speaker 3: We've just taken control of the terrorists. We're about to land.
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Speaker 3: Anyone who hears me, we need help. We're landing in Tabuk.
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Speaker 3: Apparently in the area of Saudi Arabia. Not familiar with it.
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Speaker 4: Unknown.
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Speaker 3: All aboard the flight are healthy and in one piece.
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Speaker 3: Aside from the pilot.
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Speaker 2: We need help. That was the video made by one
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Speaker 2: of the passengers. Freaky stuff. Now let's go to the UK.
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Speaker 2: Andy Burnham's hinting, suggesting they might rejoin the EU. So
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Speaker 2: there are clearly options that need to be... conceded, and
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Speaker 2: we have to look at what is doable and what
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Speaker 2: would be the pros and cons of each. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 2: a big conversation. More on that shortly. Manchester City, meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: in the middle of a major financial scandal, found guilty
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Speaker 2: of more than 100 serious breaches over sponsorship and revenue.
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Speaker 2: Former manager says it's nonsense.
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Speaker 5: It would be much better given the severity and the
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Speaker 5: clarity of this report if the club sat down with
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Speaker 5: the Premier League, held up its hands and tried to
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Speaker 5: negotiate the best deal they can at this stage. Because
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Speaker 5: the longer this goes on, the worse it's going to get.
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Speaker 5: And the club, which has a huge black cloud hanging
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Speaker 5: over it now, will be dragged further into disrepute.
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Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan heading out at the paparazzi. They say
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Speaker 2: the paps are stalking and hiding in the bushes outside
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Speaker 2: their kids' school. Police apparently did find two international photographers
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Speaker 2: in a rental van.
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Speaker 6: I think the real thing is the intrusion on the
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Speaker 6: children's privacy is the main thing, but also the impact
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Speaker 6: that has on the Duke and the Duchess and the
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Speaker 6: fact that it might actually alert the general public to
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Speaker 6: where the children go to school. And it's not very
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Speaker 6: hard then to find out potentially where the house is.
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Speaker 2: Right, they're still waiting to hear whether they should get
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Speaker 2: the state-funded security that they are so desperate to get.
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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in-depth analysis.
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Speaker 1: Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business. Technology
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Speaker 1: that keeps business moving.
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Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. Newstalk ZB, eight minutes after five. Do you
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Speaker 2: know what I'm sick of hearing? We've had a couple
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Speaker 2: of election debates and stuff going on and just politicians.
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Speaker 2: We're seeing a lot more of them, aren't we? On
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Speaker 2: the news and on the social media feeds and all
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Speaker 2: that stuff. Aren't you sick of everybody saying, I support
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Speaker 2: this or I'm for education or I'm for health? I
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Speaker 2: support jobs. Of course you do. I mean, who doesn't?
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Speaker 2: What a dumb thing to say. What does it actually mean?
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Speaker 2: Just a lot of platitudes going on on the campaign
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Speaker 2: trail at the moment. Hey, City Rail Link, big song
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Speaker 2: and dance about this. So we've got some numbers. So
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Speaker 2: second week recorded 506,000 train boardings. In the two weeks
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Speaker 2: before the opening, there were 645,000 in the fortnight. So
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Speaker 2: that's about a 60% increase on the two weeks prior.
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Speaker 2: The question then becomes, well, how crap were the services beforehand?
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Speaker 2: You know how they had lots of shutdowns and they were, oh,
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Speaker 2: we need to fix this and test that. So the
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Speaker 2: trains weren't actually running very well beforehand. So are you
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Speaker 2: comparing like with like? Probably not. And I'm not rubbishing
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Speaker 2: it or poo-pooing it. I want this thing to work.
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Speaker 2: But we don't yet have any numbers on, because 3
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Speaker 2: million bus trips over the same two-week period. So do
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Speaker 2: we have numbers yet on how many people have gone
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Speaker 2: from bus to train? No, we don't. Do we have
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Speaker 2: any data yet? Do we have any numbers yet on
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Speaker 2: how many people have gone from cars to train, which
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Speaker 2: is what we want people to do? No, we don't.
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Speaker 2: So still a little TBC on the CRL.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
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Speaker 2: Ten after five. Next, we will talk about kids. So
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Speaker 2: everyone has a problem with kids using AI. Well, some
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Speaker 2: people have a problem with kids using AI to actually
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Speaker 2: answer questions. But what about the teachers using AI to
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Speaker 2: mark them? Bit of a battle going on about this.
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Speaker 2: It's next.
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Speaker 1: 5.12, Andy Burnham's talking about a full Brexit reversal, basically
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Speaker 1: let's rejoin the EU. He hasn't said we're going to
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Speaker 1: do this, he's just said there are options, let's look
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Speaker 1: at it, let's talk about it.
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Speaker 2: And over in Madrid in Spain, Macron was meeting with
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Speaker 2: Pedro Sanchez, who's the Prime Minister there, you know, the
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Speaker 2: socialist one, meeting with him and said, when he was
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Speaker 2: asked about Britain rejoining, said, welcome back, in English too. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: a lot of water to go under, some quite big
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Speaker 2: bridges before any of this would become a reality. So
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Speaker 2: the customs deal... the UK would have to accept a
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Speaker 2: common external tariff, which basically means your independent trade policy,
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Speaker 2: including with the US, goes out the door, out the window.
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Speaker 2: And then there's, of course, what do you do about
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Speaker 2: people living and working? And you've got to have the
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Speaker 2: free borders and the open borders, and that's a big
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Speaker 2: problem too. Brussels did say, you're all in or you're
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Speaker 2: all out. You can't be half in, half out, half pregnant.
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Speaker 2: It won't happen. So I think, I mean, look at
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Speaker 2: the rise of Nigel Farage. Look at the rise of reform.
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Speaker 2: This is never, going to get across the line in
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Speaker 2: the UK. So there's a worry about AI in the classroom.
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Speaker 2: The PPTA is now saying to their teachers, keep control
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Speaker 2: of marking your students' work and don't be lured by
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Speaker 2: artificial intelligence. They say AI wouldn't actually lead to any improvement,
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Speaker 2: especially for teachers' development. Let's go to University of Canterbury
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Speaker 2: Associate Professor Catherine McCallum, who was with us this morning. Catherine,
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Speaker 2: good morning.
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Speaker 7: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: So what happens when a teacher marks a kid's work
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Speaker 2: and uses AI to do it? Is there anything wrong?
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Speaker 8: No, no, there's nothing wrong with it. But it's about,
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Speaker 8: as you say, marking is a human activity. It's about
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Speaker 8: actually understanding the learner and the context. And so if
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Speaker 8: you're using AI, they don't understand that context. They don't
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Speaker 8: understand the learner. So it can look more efficient. It
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Speaker 8: can be speeding things up a bit. It's actually not,
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Speaker 8: you know, marking is a human activity that we need
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Speaker 8: to make sure that we're using AI effectively because it
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Speaker 8: doesn't pick up that nuance that, you know, marking should.
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Speaker 2: There's a great variance in what we're talking about here.
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Speaker 2: If you're a math teacher and there's a math equation,
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Speaker 2: there's only one answer. You know, surely that would be
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Speaker 2: self-evident or actually easy to mark. And then there's an
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Speaker 2: English essay, which might be five pages long.
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Speaker 4: Yes, definitely.
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Speaker 8: So AI can be used in different ways. And I think,
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Speaker 8: as you say, for really simple assessments where there isn't
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Speaker 8: a lot of judgment, human judgment, I think we could
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Speaker 8: use AI to make that process quick. But they're also
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Speaker 8: using it so you don't actually understand who your learner is.
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Speaker 8: And so a lot of assessment is about developing the learner.
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Speaker 8: It's about giving them feedback. And so AI While you
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Speaker 8: can use AI for feedback as well, it's about actually
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Speaker 8: understanding where your learners are at as well. And so
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Speaker 8: it's that nuance. Even in a maths question, you can
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Speaker 8: use AI to speed it up, but it still needs
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Speaker 8: to be that human process that's important.
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Speaker 2: What about the teachers' union saying to teachers, basically, don't
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Speaker 2: do AI, it's not good for you, not good for anyone?
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Speaker 2: Is that a smart thing to say?
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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I think as everything with AI, there's nuance.
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Speaker 8: So it's not just it's a bad thing, but I
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Speaker 8: think it's important to understand what you're giving up when
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Speaker 8: you're looking at using AI. And it's not a blank
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Speaker 8: black and white issue. It's about what are you using
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Speaker 8: it for, how you're using it. And I think a
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Speaker 8: lot of the problem when you come to AI is seductive.
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Speaker 8: And so the issue around the teacher development is that
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Speaker 8: It can actually look like the answer is more correct
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Speaker 8: because it comes across as being more authoritative and it
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Speaker 8: undermines teachers' confidence sometimes if you aren't confident in that process.
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Speaker 8: So I think that's the problem. It's that AI looks good.
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Speaker 8: It has information and it provides it in a very
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Speaker 8: authoritative voice. But what we need is a human judgment
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Speaker 8: and it can undermine that.
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Speaker 2: All right, Dr. Catherine McKellen, thanks for your time this morning.
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Speaker 2: University of Canterbury, it is 17 minutes after five.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
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Speaker 2: Martin says, Ryan, the precious teachers will just want more
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Speaker 2: money for using it or not using it, depending on
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Speaker 2: what their union says. There is a lot of that
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Speaker 2: going on, Martin, I have to say. We can all
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Speaker 2: see it, can't we? Hey, Seattle. Minimum wage in Seattle
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Speaker 2: is $ 22. 14 an hour. That's American, so $ 39 New Zealand dollars.
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Speaker 2: Minimum wage in Seattle.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 2: So your salary is $ 81, 000 New Zealand dollars a year
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Speaker 2: if you're on the minimum wage.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 2: I know. Mackenzie's jaw just dropped listening to that. So
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Speaker 2: what's the problem with that? Well, I mean, the cost
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Speaker 2: of living is a problem there. So they say we
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Speaker 2: need to keep putting the wages up because we need
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Speaker 2: people to keep up with the cost of living and
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Speaker 2: inflation and stuff. But then also that causes inflation itself,
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Speaker 2: doesn't it? So it's a double edged sword. But if
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Speaker 2: you look at the number of business and particularly restaurant openings, well,
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Speaker 2: they're not opening. In fact, they are closing. And labour
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Speaker 2: costs is a reason. So first half of 2025, 450
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Speaker 2: Seattle restaurants, about 16% of the restaurants in Seattle closed.
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Speaker 2: restaurant and retail transactions fell by 7%. There is other
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Speaker 2: stuff going on in Seattle, obviously, that would be contributing
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Speaker 2: to all of this, but wages are right up there.
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Speaker 2: And of course, it's not just the minimum wage that,
10:32
Speaker 2: you know, you're paying your barista or you're paying your
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Speaker 2: waiter $ 20 an hour, $ 21 an hour, $ 39 New Zealand
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Speaker 2: dollars an hour. Then you've got to pay your chef
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Speaker 2: $ 35 American an hour, don't you? Just to keep up. So,
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Speaker 2: They will have anyway, by the end of next year,
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Speaker 2: they will have the highest minimum wage in the United States.
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Speaker 2: 18 after 5, Newstalk ZB.
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Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB. Before the news breaks, hear it first. Ryan
11:04
Speaker 1: Bridge on early edition with Spark for Business, technology that
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Speaker 1: keeps business moving.
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Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. 21 after 5, the Americans are officially pulling
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Speaker 2: out of Iraq. This is after two decades of a
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Speaker 2: military presence there. We're going to speak to Mitch McCann
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Speaker 2: out of the US in about 20 minutes' time. By
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Speaker 2: the way, inflation over in Europe higher than what they
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Speaker 2: thought it would be. This is because of oil, because
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Speaker 2: of the Middle East. France, annual inflation up to 3%
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Speaker 2: for September. That's up from 2.4% in August. Italy, 4.2%,
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Speaker 2: up from 3.3%. Spain is now on 4.9%, almost 5%
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Speaker 2: annual inflation in Spain. That's up from 4.3% in the
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Speaker 2: annual to the month prior, 21 after 5. The New
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Speaker 2: Zealand Film Commission is cutting its core funding, just over
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Speaker 2: a million bucks that goes to 10 film and screen organisations.
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Speaker 2: It says the programme is no longer the most effective
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Speaker 2: way to deliver strategic objectives. Projects can still get public funding,
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Speaker 2: but it'll be directed towards fewer higher impact investments. Irene
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Speaker 2: Gardner's with us. One of those organisations that has been affected,
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Speaker 2: Screen Production and Development Association, SPADA. Irene, good morning.
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Speaker 4: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: How much? So it's up to $ 100, 000 per organisation. Do
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Speaker 2: you know what you are going to lose per year
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Speaker 2: because of this?
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Speaker 7: It'll be in that vicinity, yeah. I mean, SPADA... You know,
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Speaker 7: NFC's funding to Sparta is not our full funding. We
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Speaker 7: obviously have, you know, membership and various other ways of
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Speaker 7: raising money. But it is a lot and, you know,
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Speaker 7: it is going to affect the industry. Obviously, we understand.
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Speaker 7: I mean, the Film Commission's under, you know, massive financial pressure,
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Speaker 7: as is our whole green industry in New Zealand at
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Speaker 7: the moment. But it's, yeah, it's a tough decision for
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Speaker 7: us and the other guilds.
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Speaker 2: How many members have you got, Irene?
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Speaker 7: Sparta's got, I think, about 315 on the last count.
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Speaker 7: We're the producers, obviously, but there's also a guild for
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Speaker 7: screen workers, crew folk, and one for writers and one
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Speaker 7: for directors. There's some smaller guilds.
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Speaker 2: Irene, what did that money go towards?
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Speaker 7: For Sparta, it's our operational money, really. We have to
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Speaker 7: pay people. And you know, we have to organize events
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Speaker 7: and do all kinds of things, you know, lobby government
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Speaker 7: and all of that. And it all takes money and
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Speaker 7: time to pay, you know, you have to pay people. But,
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Speaker 7: you know, we'll find a way to continue. I mean,
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Speaker 7: there has to be a producer's guild, you know, there
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Speaker 7: just has to be for the industry to function. So yeah,
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Speaker 7: we'll find a way forward. It kind of just really
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Speaker 7: brings into sharp relief how tough it is across the industry.
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Speaker 7: We're just You know, we really need something to change
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Speaker 7: in terms of, you know, regulation of the international streamers
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Speaker 7: who've taken so much ad rev out of our ecosystem
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Speaker 7: and made things very, very hard. You know, something like that.
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Speaker 7: A look at the funding agencies' money. I mean, the
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Speaker 7: funding agencies haven't ended on the ATMP and the Film
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Speaker 7: Commission haven't had, you know, any increases in age. And
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Speaker 7: then they had a decrease recently in the last budget.
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Speaker 7: So it's super, super tough out there. So it's really
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Speaker 7: concerning news for us and for the other guilds. But
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Speaker 7: it also wasn't shocking, you know, in the current climate.
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Speaker 2: Irene, thanks for being with me this morning. That is
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Speaker 2: Irene Gardner, president of SPADA, the Screen Production and Development
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Speaker 2: Association that's been affected by these cuts 24 minutes after five.
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Speaker 2: And yes, what Irene is saying is true, that the
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Speaker 2: international streamers have come in. I mean, like they have
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Speaker 2: to media outlets have come in and they just take
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Speaker 2: everything away and then you get nothing back. That's basically
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Speaker 2: how it works. However, no government, well, I mean, you know,
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Speaker 2: Willie Jackson talks about this, talks about that, but no
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Speaker 2: government really, certainly not this one, wants to go and
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Speaker 2: take on any of these big international, or more to
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Speaker 2: the point, American media giants because of what Trump might
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Speaker 2: do to react. 25 after 5, Newstalk ZB. Time is
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Speaker 2: 27 minutes after five. Health is one of those areas
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Speaker 2: where you can really churn through and burn through the cash.
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Speaker 2: It's expensive for us to visit a GP, but it's
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Speaker 2: also expensive to fund the thing. The amount that taxpayers
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Speaker 2: spend on health, it's gone up 100% over the past decade.
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Speaker 2: So back in 2016, I know, can you believe that
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Speaker 2: was a decade ago? $ 15 billion is what we spent.
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Speaker 2: It's now up over $ 30, well over $ 30 billion. The
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Speaker 2: population has not increased by that much. It's only gone
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Speaker 2: up roughly 15%. But there are always better medicines to buy.
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Speaker 2: There are always unions to settle pay negotiations with. There's
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Speaker 2: always new equipment that you can buy. There are always
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Speaker 2: hospitals to replace. It's a money pit, basically. Every election,
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Speaker 2: we get the same message, which is basically, let's put
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Speaker 2: more money in the pit. And both Labour and National
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Speaker 2: are saying they will do this this year and this election. Hell,
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Speaker 2: even the ACT Party is saying that. But are we
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Speaker 2: missing a trick by always focusing on money in and
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Speaker 2: patients out? Diabetes and obesity are massive problems, no pun intended,
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Speaker 2: for the health system. And every doctor that you speak
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Speaker 2: to will tell you this. It's just the truth. As
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Speaker 2: is ageing, though we can't do much about that. But
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Speaker 2: where is the focus in this campaign outside of New
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Speaker 2: Zealand First's policy, which they may or may not have copied?
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Speaker 2: On the food pyramid and keeping ourselves healthy and fit,
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Speaker 2: you are what you eat is not just an old saying,
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Speaker 2: it's science. And to his credit, JFK Jr. in the
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Speaker 2: US has been pushing this message, why aren't we? If
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Speaker 2: we want to keep the status quo and continue funding
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Speaker 2: an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff, then we
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Speaker 2: are going the right way about it. You're on Newstalk TV,
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Speaker 2: 29 minutes after five. We'll get to the US with
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Speaker 2: Mitch McCann shortly. Hey, this is a funny one out
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Speaker 2: of Indonesia. Well, I mean, great, actually, if you're in
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Speaker 2: prison in Indonesia, because apparently if you're wealthy and you're
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Speaker 2: well-connected and you go to jail, then actually life is fine.
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Speaker 2: They've discovered a prison in a little area, a little
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Speaker 2: town outside of Jakarta, and inside the prison they've found
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Speaker 2: a compound of luxury apartments. There's a dining area, a
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Speaker 2: fridge containing booze, some big-screen TVs so they can watch
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Speaker 2: all the sport, and even a golf simulator. Anyway, five
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Speaker 2: dudes who have been running, well, supposedly running a prison,
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Speaker 2: inverted commas, have now been arrested on corruption charges. It
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Speaker 2: is 29 after five. Newstalk ZB, we're in the US next.
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Speaker 2: If he's killing you, I feel I was patient zero.
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Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's
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Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business. Technology
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Speaker 1: that keeps business moving.
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Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. 24 away from 6, you're on Newstalk ZB.
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Speaker 2: The Americans are officially pulling their last troops out of
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Speaker 2: Iraq after two decades. We'll go to Mitch McCann stateside
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Speaker 2: for more on that shortly, plus health hospitals and will
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Speaker 2: more money actually fix the problems that we see and
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Speaker 2: read about in the newspapers every day? House prices doing
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Speaker 2: exactly what you think they are doing at the moment,
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Speaker 2: and that is going down most of the places around
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Speaker 2: the country over the last year, except for the Deep South,
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Speaker 2: where we have had gains. So this is the national
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Speaker 2: median value that Cotality puts out. We've had six consecutive
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Speaker 2: months going backwards now. $ 797, 000 for September was the national median.
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Speaker 2: That's down 1.3% on September last year. Your biggest drops,
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Speaker 2: Hawke's Bay, 3.6% backwards. Gisborne, 3.3%. Auckland back 3.2%. Wellington
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Speaker 2: back 3.1%. So Auckland actually dropping more than Wellington. Gaines,
19:09
Speaker 2: Southland up 3.8%. Canterbury up 2.9%. Otago up 2.5%. Very
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Speaker 2: much still a buyer's market. Time is 23 away from 6.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Callum in Dunedin. Morning, Callum. Morning, Ryan.
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Speaker 2: A little piece of Middle Earth up for grabs in Otago.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is a slice of land used to film
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Speaker 9: The Lord of the Rings. It's on the market for
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Speaker 9: the first time in more than 25 years. It's a
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Speaker 9: thousand hectare property at Otago's Paul Byrne Reservoir. This was
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Speaker 9: land transformed into Rohan Village for the Peter Jackson movies.
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Speaker 9: In fact, two structures from the set are still standing there.
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Speaker 9: The Bailey's agent selling the land says, look, this is
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Speaker 9: extremely rare to see a property of this scale come
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Speaker 9: to market. And he says the property's film connection could
19:52
Speaker 9: be turned into a tourism opportunity. It comes at a
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Speaker 9: cost of $ 3. 5 million.
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Speaker 2: How's your weather?
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Speaker 9: Mostly cloudy for us today. Westerly developing to Eden's high 18.
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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Callum. Thank you very much. Clare's in Christchurch.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Clare.
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Speaker 10: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: So political polling has taken a tasty turn in Christchurch.
20:11
Speaker 2: Is this the ice cream shop, gelato shop?
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Speaker 8: Yes, it so is.
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Speaker 11: This is one of the city's coolest election traditions, aiming
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Speaker 11: to get more young people actually voting. Rollican Gelato is
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Speaker 11: the company name. They run this scoop poll. It's the
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Speaker 11: fourth edition of it. It's running for the next month.
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Speaker 11: And effectively, they sell ice creams based on political parties.
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Speaker 11: So they've got flavours like all sorts of Winston and
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Speaker 11: orange chalk chippy. The director of the company, Jed Joyce,
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Speaker 11: says this is a partnership with the Electoral Commission because
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Speaker 11: many of the customers for Rolican are under 25. We
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Speaker 11: know that's the age group with the lowest voting turnout.
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Speaker 11: He says they have the commission come down, they run sessions,
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Speaker 11: educate young people, make sure they know how to enrol,
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Speaker 11: get their address right, all of the nitty gritty. National
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Speaker 11: leader Chris Luxon popped in yesterday. He gave his own
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Speaker 11: gelato flavour, the Blueberry Lux, two ticks of approval. He
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Speaker 11: was put through his paces by the gelato company for
21:02
Speaker 11: some of their social media stuff. He answered some big questions,
21:05
Speaker 11: including what animal he would be. His answer, if you're wondering,
21:08
Speaker 11: was a Labrador, because in his own words, he's always
21:11
Speaker 11: a happy chappy.
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Speaker 2: Is there a poll? I've been reading these stories. Is
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Speaker 2: there actually like somewhere you vote and put a little
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Speaker 2: coin into a basket or something.
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Speaker 11: They keep track of the scoops, of how many scoops
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Speaker 11: are ordered of what. So that's how they judge who's ahead.
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Speaker 2: And do we know who's currently, you know, what the
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Speaker 2: order is, the pecking order at this point?
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Speaker 11: No, it only launched yesterday morning. So I will keep
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Speaker 11: a very close eye on it and report.
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Speaker 2: Back for you. Very good, Clare. Thank you. How's your weather?
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Speaker 11: A bit of frost about this morning and we noticed
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Speaker 11: some fog as well. Otherwise, northeasterly is picking up a
21:42
Speaker 11: bit later. It should be warm though, 20 degrees.
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Speaker 2: Nice one, Kate Ricard in Wellington. Good morning, Kate.
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Speaker 4: Morning, Ryan.
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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, by the way.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: How old are you turning, do we ask?
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Speaker 10: 23.
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Oh, I shouldn't have. Hey, tell us
21:56
Speaker 2: about the heritage areas. Long time since we've had to
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Speaker 2: worry about heritage areas in Wellington, but they're basically stripping
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Speaker 2: a couple.
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Speaker 12: Yes, so the Herald reports RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop
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Speaker 12: is pushing ahead with removing the protections. That's of the
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Speaker 12: Karori Tunnel, Kalburn Viaduct and an old oil storage tank.
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Speaker 12: He's also easing them for the Courtney Place heritage area.
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Speaker 12: His changes will amend the Wellington City Council's district plan
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Speaker 12: and will also allow construction of buildings up to 42
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Speaker 12: metres high that's in the central city's heritage precinct. Now,
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Speaker 12: an analysis from the Ministry for Cities, Environment, Regions and
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Speaker 12: Transport suggests the changes could allow up to 550 new
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Speaker 12: apartments to be developed in the area.
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Speaker 2: All right. How's the weather for Wellington?
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Speaker 12: Often cloudy, mainly north of Wellington City and a high
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Speaker 12: of 14 degrees.
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Speaker 2: Have you got plans to celebrate your birthday, Kate? What
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Speaker 2: does a 23-year-old do to celebrate her birthday these days?
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Speaker 12: I'm having a wine tasting this Saturday.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that sounds fun. Yeah, it should be good. Neva
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Speaker 2: will be jealous. She's here with us. Thank you very much, Kate,
22:58
Speaker 2: and happy birthday. You enjoy yourself. Wine tasting. Doesn't that
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Speaker 2: sound lovely? I thought young people didn't drink anymore.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I thought they had, yeah, drinking games and all
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Speaker 13: those RTDs or whatever you call them.
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Speaker 2: This is what the, you read the news and the
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Speaker 2: news tells you that young people are one thing and
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Speaker 2: then you meet them and they're not.
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Speaker 4: No, exactly.
23:16
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 7: I agree.
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Speaker 2: They're all climate changing, tree hugging, greeny weirdos who don't
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Speaker 2: have sex and don't drink and then you meet them
23:23
Speaker 2: and they're the exact opposite.
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Speaker 4: Exactly.
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Speaker 13: Don't have cars.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
23:27
Speaker 13: Quite right.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Good on them. Hey, Mount Albert candidates debate last night.
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Speaker 13: Yes, you can tell it's election year, my goodness.
23:33
Speaker 3: All the debates.
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Speaker 13: We had two yesterday last night here in Auckland.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, you're right.
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Speaker 13: The Mount Albert won. Those candidates going head to head. Yeah,
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Speaker 13: all talking about grocery pricing, housing, immigration. opportunities kule wong
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Speaker 13: she's there she said look getting a lot of traction
23:49
Speaker 13: door knocking voters of all stripes and fresh voices are
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Speaker 13: needed and then the greens ricardo menendez march has come
23:56
Speaker 13: in and he said look the community is worried about
23:58
Speaker 13: an anti-migrant rhetoric within the current government and not forgetting
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Speaker 13: the incumbent mp labors helen white remember she only won
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Speaker 13: that seat by 18 votes uh now she says that
24:08
Speaker 13: they need more housing supply nationals melissa lee says that
24:12
Speaker 13: um Well, you know what? They've got to build the
24:14
Speaker 13: right sized housing for people. That's what she's saying. So
24:16
Speaker 13: that's the Mount Albert. Then you go across town down
24:19
Speaker 13: to K Road, Auckland Central, Chloe Swarbrick's patch. So they
24:23
Speaker 13: were talking about homelessness and, you know, housing as well.
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Speaker 10: So that happened last night.
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Speaker 2: Oh, nice.
24:28
Speaker 10: The double whammy bar.
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Speaker 2: I watched a little bit of Helen White. She sounded
24:33
Speaker 2: a little bit cray-cray, to be honest. Did she? Well,
24:36
Speaker 2: let me put it this way. She was the most
24:38
Speaker 2: animated on the panel.
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Speaker 10: Oh, yes, say more. Oh, I must go back and watch.
24:42
Speaker 2: Go back and watch it. Animated flip. So I don't know.
24:45
Speaker 2: That'll be an interesting one because you've got a whole
24:47
Speaker 2: bunch of left candidates who split the vote. So does
24:49
Speaker 2: Melissa Lee come through the middle and finally take her prize?
24:52
Speaker 10: What's she going to do?
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Speaker 13: She's got to take one out of the bag, you know,
24:55
Speaker 13: show us something from three years ago, eh?
24:57
Speaker 2: Remember Melissa Lee? I'm pretty sure it was Melissa Lee.
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't get this wrong. Remember she said to solve
25:04
Speaker 2: the crime problem, you'd close the motorway to South Auckland
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Speaker 2: on the weekends? Yes, she did.
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Speaker 7: Remember that?
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Speaker 2: Yes, I do. It was words to that effect and
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Speaker 2: it was like an outrageous thing. It was her, wasn't it?
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Speaker 10: Or are we doing something?
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Speaker 7: No, no, no.
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Speaker 14: It was her.
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Speaker 10: I'll just blame it on you anyway.
25:17
Speaker 2: How's that weather?
25:18
Speaker 13: Cloudy, odd shower. 17 the high here in Auckland today.
25:21
Speaker 2: Nice one. Neva, thank you very much. Time is 17
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Speaker 2: minutes away from six. You're on Newstalk ZB. By the way,
25:28
Speaker 2: foreign investment, I was having a look at some numbers
25:30
Speaker 2: this morning. So if you add up all the investments
25:32
Speaker 2: that we make overseas, including our KiwiSaver, portfolio investments, all
25:36
Speaker 2: that stuff, plus direct investments, we are closing the gap
25:41
Speaker 2: in terms of what's coming in versus what's going out.
25:43
Speaker 2: So the net of all investment liability is negative $ 200 billion.
25:48
Speaker 2: That is 10% lower than So our liability to the
25:54
Speaker 2: world is 10% lower than a year ago, and that
25:57
Speaker 2: is the biggest fall since 2011. So things looking up
26:01
Speaker 2: on the investment front. It is 16 to 6. Newstalk ZB.
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Speaker 2: We're in the US next.
26:06
Speaker 1: International Correspondence with NZI Insurance. Peace of mind for New
26:10
Speaker 1: Zealand business.
26:11
Speaker 2: 14 to 6, we'll talk health spending and health funding
26:14
Speaker 2: in just a few seconds. First, Mitch McCann is stateside
26:16
Speaker 2: for us this morning. Mitch, good morning. So we've got
26:19
Speaker 2: the final troop withdrawal. This is the US completely getting
26:23
Speaker 2: out of Iraq. Yeah, that's right. Good morning, Ryan.
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Speaker 14: This really brings to an end decades of intervention by
26:29
Speaker 14: the United States in Iraq. The withdrawal signals the end
26:32
Speaker 14: of a 12-year mission to fight ISIS. Troops left after
26:36
Speaker 14: the war in Iraq. Then they came back to fight
26:38
Speaker 14: ISIS a couple of years later. And it's something that
26:40
Speaker 14: Baghdad and the Iraqi government say shows a sign that
26:43
Speaker 14: the country is increasing in strength and sovereignty. The deadline
26:47
Speaker 14: today was actually set by Joe Biden. And there was
26:50
Speaker 14: some question whether Donald Trump would keep that date for
26:53
Speaker 14: pulling out despite, you know, the war in Iran going
26:55
Speaker 14: on next door. But Donald Trump has decided to keep
26:59
Speaker 14: that decision and pull the troops out today. While most Iraqis,
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Speaker 14: based on the reporting, seem to be pleased with this development,
27:06
Speaker 14: to have most of the American forces gone, there are
27:08
Speaker 14: still lingering questions around whether or not the Iraqi forces
27:12
Speaker 14: have enough power and strength to keep regional militias at bay.
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Speaker 2: Of course, seven U.S.
27:17
Speaker 14: Service members died this year after strikes in Iraq, after
27:22
Speaker 14: the war in Iran started. And ISIS hasn't completely disappeared
27:26
Speaker 14: in the region. So, of course, some concern that, you know,
27:28
Speaker 14: militias in the area might see this as an opportunity.
27:31
Speaker 2: That's always the problem, isn't it? I mean, you go
27:32
Speaker 2: and you get rid of Saddam Hussein and then ISIS
27:34
Speaker 2: comes in and then you pull out and what happens? Hey,
27:38
Speaker 2: I've been following this case with some interest. Krista Pike,
27:41
Speaker 2: who is first woman to be executed, going to happen
27:45
Speaker 2: shortly in the state of Tennessee in 200 years. Well,
27:49
Speaker 2: it was going to happen shortly, Ryan, but in the
27:51
Speaker 2: last hour that has all changed because a federal appeals
27:55
Speaker 2: court has stepped in. So What's happened here is a
27:58
Speaker 2: 50-year-old woman was scheduled to be put to death today
28:00
Speaker 2: by lethal injection in Tennessee. She was convicted, Krista Pike
28:04
Speaker 2: was convicted of murdering her classmate in 1995. She was
28:08
Speaker 2: going to be the first woman executed in the state
28:10
Speaker 2: in more than 200 years. However, a federal appeals court
28:14
Speaker 2: in the last hour and a half has stayed the execution,
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Speaker 2: citing new arguments from defense lawyers relating to Krista Pike's
28:21
Speaker 2: traumatic childhood which was marked by years of sexual assaults
28:25
Speaker 2: that started before she was in preschool.
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Speaker 14: So this historic lethal injection has now been put on
28:31
Speaker 14: hold and we don't know when there'll be an end.
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Speaker 2: To this case. It's very interesting. It is very interesting.
28:37
Speaker 2: I didn't realise that it happened in the last hour.
28:39
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Mitch McCann, our US correspondent, 11
28:42
Speaker 2: minutes away from six. The union representing senior doctors and
28:46
Speaker 2: dentists in New Zealand says a record 1.4 million patients
28:50
Speaker 2: turned up at ED last year, admissions up 21% over
28:53
Speaker 2: the last decade. They want more money for health because
28:57
Speaker 2: they say they're struggling to keep up. Sarah Dalton, the
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Speaker 2: Association of Salaried Medical Specialists with me this morning. Sarah,
29:03
Speaker 2: good morning.
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Speaker 10: Good morning.
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Speaker 4: How are you?
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Speaker 2: Very well, thank you. So this is an increase of, what, 2%
29:09
Speaker 2: increase in admissions per year, and cumulatively we're 21%, over 21%
29:15
Speaker 2: over the past decade. What's driving that increase?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is a report that the College of
29:23
Speaker 4: Emergency Medicine have put out. They're the college who specialist
29:29
Speaker 4: emergency doctors belong to. It is a really great report
29:32
Speaker 4: because what it shows is that more people are turning
29:35
Speaker 4: up to EDs. The people who are turning up to
29:38
Speaker 4: EDs are more likely to be overdosed. to have complex
29:41
Speaker 4: conditions and be more difficult to treat. It also shows
29:47
Speaker 4: that the rate of people presenting at EDs is increasing
29:52
Speaker 4: way faster than population growth.
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Speaker 7: It's a real problem.
29:56
Speaker 2: And it's also.
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Speaker 4: Showing that 8% nationally of patients on average who turn
30:01
Speaker 4: up at EDs looking for care actually leave before they're
30:05
Speaker 4: able to be treated. And that's not showing up in
30:08
Speaker 4: the government statistics.
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Speaker 2: Which is a problem. And you're saying more money will
30:13
Speaker 2: help address the issues, but we've had a 100% increase
30:17
Speaker 2: in vote health over the last decade, way above what
30:20
Speaker 2: we've seen in terms of population and in terms of
30:23
Speaker 2: admissions to EDs. So what gives?
30:27
Speaker 4: Well, that's not what this report tells us. This report
30:31
Speaker 4: tells us that while on the surface funding has increased,
30:34
Speaker 4: when you look at the complexity of the need for
30:37
Speaker 4: hospital care, the complexity of people who are showing up,
30:43
Speaker 4: the percentage of increase of hospital admissions and presentations to
30:49
Speaker 4: ED against population growth increases. it is not actually keeping
30:53
Speaker 4: pace with the real level of need. And it's also
30:56
Speaker 4: showing that while New Zealand's spending on average 7.4% of
31:00
Speaker 4: its GDP on health between 2023 and 2025, that is
31:07
Speaker 4: still less than the OECD average of some other countries
31:11
Speaker 4: to ours who are spending an average of 7.7%. So
31:15
Speaker 4: that's a gap of more than a billion dollars a year.
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Speaker 2: OK, Sarah, just very quickly, when you say complex, do
31:21
Speaker 2: you mean old and potentially obese, like the comorbidities?
31:27
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about obesity necessarily, but someone who has
31:30
Speaker 4: more than one condition. You should probably talk to a
31:32
Speaker 4: doctor about that. But, you know, the other interesting thing
31:36
Speaker 4: that this report does is it suggests that the government's
31:39
Speaker 4: own staff, length of stay target for EDs isn't quite
31:44
Speaker 4: sharp enough, they've developed a better one.
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be a smart thing to know what the
31:49
Speaker 2: complex issues are before we start asking for money?
31:54
Speaker 4: No, absolutely not. So what it's saying is there's a
31:56
Speaker 4: range of things, right? So it could be diabetes. It
31:59
Speaker 4: could be obesity. It could be arthritis, rheumatism. It could
32:03
Speaker 4: be a respiratory disease. It could be a combination of
32:07
Speaker 4: those things. So that's something you should be getting clinicians
32:12
Speaker 4: to chat to you about.
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Speaker 2: Sarah Dalton, good to have you on the show this morning.
32:16
Speaker 2: Association of Salaried Medical Specialists. Time is 7 to 6.
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Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB.
32:21
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal did a poll, which was quite interesting,
32:31
Speaker 1: and it looked at a whole bunch of populist policies
32:34
Speaker 1: actually quite popular in America, ironically, including things like hard
32:39
Speaker 1: intervention into the price caps.
32:43
Speaker 2: Very popular, not just among the Democrats, but also Republicans
32:47
Speaker 2: and independents. But here's the interesting one. Should we stop
32:50
Speaker 2: illegal immigration at the border? 61% of Democrats say yes. 98%
32:56
Speaker 2: of Republicans, and crucially here, 77% of Independents say yes,
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Speaker 2: we should. It's 5-2. Good morning, Mike. Morning.
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Speaker 10: Why wouldn't you stop illegal?
33:06
Speaker 2: It's illegal. Well, because some places, including in Europe, they
33:10
Speaker 2: don't even call it illegal. No. They call it irregular migration.
33:13
Speaker 10: Ask the people of Serta.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:15
Speaker 10: That's probably a good example. Do you realise the road
33:18
Speaker 10: rules are changing today?
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Speaker 2: Yes, look, I read the headline and it said there's
33:21
Speaker 2: four of them.
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Speaker 6: Are they stupid?
33:23
Speaker 2: I haven't read. What are they?
33:24
Speaker 10: Well, they require a minimum gap of 1.5 metres when
33:28
Speaker 10: drivers pass other road users who are not driving a
33:31
Speaker 10: motor vehicle. So that's pointless.
33:32
Speaker 2: No one's monitoring that. So bikes? Presumably.
33:36
Speaker 10: Children up to 12 can ride bikes on footpaths and
33:41
Speaker 10: allow parents and caregivers to ride with them.
33:44
Speaker 2: So you've got to have a child with you in
33:46
Speaker 2: order to be driving.
33:47
Speaker 10: Well, you've got to have a child, and they've got
33:48
Speaker 10: to be under 12. But, I mean, who's to say?
33:51
Speaker 10: Allow people to ride e-scooters and cycle lanes. I'm not
33:54
Speaker 10: actually against that. Require road users to give way to buses. Now,
33:57
Speaker 10: I hate that.
33:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do think it's a necessary thing and
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Speaker 2: good to have clarification.
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Speaker 10: But what about the bus that's not in the bus
34:04
Speaker 10: lane when there is a bus lane? I was behind
34:07
Speaker 10: a bus yesterday that was not in a bus lane
34:09
Speaker 10: but was in my lane. Yes, but they might be
34:12
Speaker 10: going somewhere different.
34:13
Speaker 2: They weren't.
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Speaker 10: They were going up and they were holding me up
34:16
Speaker 10: is what they were doing. Hey, Phil Cogan. Remember Phil Cogan,
34:18
Speaker 10: Amazing Racing?
34:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool.
34:20
Speaker 10: He's on the program today. He's bringing the show to
34:21
Speaker 10: the country.
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Speaker 8: Is he?
34:23
Speaker 10: Season 39 is coming to NZ. So he's with us later.
34:27
Speaker 2: Stuff. Mike next.
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