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Lee Elci, Voice of Freedom | the Show Sucked No Wait It Was Just Me I Sucked · The Lee Elci Show

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  Speaker 1: Let me change it up.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, even those of you who consider yourselves MAGA,
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  Speaker 2: how are you not questioning.
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  Speaker 1: The timeline of all of this? And what I mean
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  Speaker 1: by timeline, I mean the actual.
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  Speaker 2: Attack and the subsequent action that we've had since. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I will keep going back to the fact that, okay,
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  Speaker 2: there have been reports, even from 60 Minutes, that they
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  Speaker 2: were very close to being able to make nine nuclear weapons. Now,
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  Speaker 2: we have heard that before in the past many times, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that has been something that's been out there
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  Speaker 2: many times. And it sort of disappears into the ether.
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  Speaker 2: They say it, and then it goes away, and nothing
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  Speaker 2: really comes of it. And this time Trump acted and
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  Speaker 2: people applauded that. I applauded the initial action against the Iranians.
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  Speaker 2: They've been our enemy for 50 years. But I was
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  Speaker 2: hanging my hat on the idea that there was a
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  Speaker 2: real solid plan in place. And again, I know the
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  Speaker 2: military people will say, well, we.
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  Speaker 1: Just started this thing. Okay. I guess. I mean... We're
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  Speaker 1: six months in now, right?
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  Speaker 2: How long are we supposed to play this day or
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  Speaker 2: dance this game with.
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  Speaker 1: Them before we either, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, go away with our tail between our legs or
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  Speaker 2: put bodies in harm's way? More bodies in harm's way.
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  Speaker 2: I know nobody likes to talk about how to hear that.
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  Speaker 2: MAGA hates to hear this. But there's really no exit strategy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, they took the shot at decapitating the leadership. They
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  Speaker 1: took the second shot.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've said this about 50 times.
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  Speaker 1: But here we are on August 10th, still dancing with
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  Speaker 1: the Iranians.
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  Speaker 2: And there are now reports coming out, credible reports, that
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  Speaker 2: we are now really actually low on ammunition. Now, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how much you believe that. It's the New
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  Speaker 2: York Times, but other places are saying it too. That
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  Speaker 2: we're expending a lot of resources there. And our mortal enemies,
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  Speaker 2: China and Russia, are taking note of that, paying very
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  Speaker 2: close attention to what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: So, I don't know. I'm curious how you feel about it.
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  Speaker 1: And we can talk about that later on in the show,
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  Speaker 1: but I know that there'll be, you know, defenders, and
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  Speaker 1: I get it. That's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we are right on track. Maybe we don't have
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  Speaker 2: the information that we're supposed to have. I just feel
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  Speaker 2: like every day it's the same.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're discussing peace, but there's no peace. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a blockade.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to control the straits. There's no oil coming out.
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  Speaker 2: Gas prices are $ 4 a gallon.
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  Speaker 1: Stock market yo-yos. It's been like this for three months.
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  Speaker 1: Hasn't it?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 1: And here in Connecticut....
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  Speaker 2: Here in Connecticut, the Democrats are blaming Trump when the
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  Speaker 2: prices are high, but they've been in control for this
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  Speaker 2: thing for four decades. I mean, Connecticut's economy, there's a
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  Speaker 2: piece that's out floating around out there where the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: are citing GDP growth, budget surpluses, and the average income
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  Speaker 2: of the state of Connecticut as proof that their policies
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  Speaker 2: are actually working, but the.
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  Speaker 1: Residents aren't asking.
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  Speaker 2: From a statewide output, they're asking if they can afford
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  Speaker 2: a home or groceries or electric bills or retirement in Connecticut.
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  Speaker 1: Can you afford those things?
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  Speaker 2: There's a poll out from WFSB and Sacred Heart found
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  Speaker 2: 38% of households say their finances right now are worse
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  Speaker 2: than they were a year ago. And nearly 6 in
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  Speaker 2: 10 say that maintaining their standard of living is incredibly difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Is that Trump's fault?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, people are going to hang their hat on
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  Speaker 2: the gas prices right now, but really the truth is
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  Speaker 2: it's the fiscal policies here in the state of Connecticut
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  Speaker 2: that are causing that. I mean, the GDP, it's not
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  Speaker 2: household financial security. And the bottom line is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that old question, are you better off today than you
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  Speaker 2: were a year ago, four years ago, eight years ago?
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  Speaker 2: And the chances are probably that you're not. But politically speaking,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be Trump's fault. Even though in the
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  Speaker 2: state of Connecticut, the people who have been making the
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  Speaker 2: laws have been signing off on legislation that is damaging
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  Speaker 2: to the state of Connecticut.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm bouncing all over the place. I
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  Speaker 1: was going to talk about Medicare and health insurance, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't feel like it. Did you
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  Speaker 1: guys have a good weekend? Did you? Yes. No, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Did you do all the things that you wanted to do?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in this weird zone right now. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: get out of it. Get some people in here. We'll
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  Speaker 2: start talking about some stuff. But I'm in a weird
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  Speaker 2: vibe happening to me right now.
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  Speaker 1: So you know what?
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  Speaker 2: Let me just ease our way out of the first
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  Speaker 2: break without really sticking my foot in my mouth. And
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  Speaker 2: like I said, we've got Greg Howard. We'll have Ben Proto,
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  Speaker 2: Owen Poole. His guest today, Colonel Bucci. We'll give you
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  Speaker 2: guys the last hour to take over.
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  Speaker 1: From 9 to 10.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll have the lead play coming up in just
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  Speaker 2: a couple of minutes to go through some of that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what people say to me. Everything in the
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  Speaker 1: state of Connecticut. If you can move, people are moving.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen. Let me go. Let me
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  Speaker 1: refresh my brain and pick up. Just any writer.
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  Speaker 5: He's the editorial board editor for the day paper. The
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  Speaker 5: man with a pen sharper than a razor.
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  Speaker 6: He's a dad, a husband, and let's be honest, a
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  Speaker 6: habitual line stepper who just can't resist pushing boundaries. He's
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  Speaker 6: on a mission to reestablish journalistic ideals and drag the
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  Speaker 6: profession back to the golden age of professionalism and sanity.
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  Speaker 6: So grab your floaties because we're diving into the deep
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  Speaker 6: end with none other than the.
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  Speaker 1: Day's own Owen Poole.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: All kinds of stuff to talk about with Owen Poole.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a few weeks since we had him on.
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  Speaker 2: Summer is almost over, man.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it goes quick. Yeah. Are you ready for
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  Speaker 1: political season? Because now it really starts.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I think so.
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  Speaker 5: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm curious about this because, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that the political season is happening. How do you, is
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  Speaker 2: there like a way you guys decide on coverage for,
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  Speaker 2: for certain people?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I mean, who gets what is George, just what
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  Speaker 1: they do and what they say.
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  Speaker 7: You mean for like campaign stuff?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, whatever. So, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how to explain it.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a bad way to ask a question, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, you've got all these races going on. How
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  Speaker 2: do you decide which ones get, The bulk of the coverage.
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  Speaker 2: Just the bigger ones get the bulk of the coverage
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to.
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  Speaker 5: Typically, I mean, we tend to cover... I mean, we
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  Speaker 5: only cover the races that are in our coverage area.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sure.
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  Speaker 5: For the most part.
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  Speaker 7: We stopped endorsing for every race a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 7: So this past cycle, we didn't endorse for state house reps,
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  Speaker 7: but we did for the Senate races.
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  Speaker 5: But as far as coverage, it's mostly....
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  Speaker 7: You know, whoever covers New London is covering the race
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  Speaker 7: that kind of encompasses.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the way it breaks.
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  Speaker 7: Down, because we have reporters by town for the most part,
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  Speaker 7: and some of the districts, you know, are part of
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  Speaker 7: New London, part of Groton.
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  Speaker 1: Right. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 7: But, I mean, it pretty much breaks down the way that, like,
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  Speaker 7: our town reporters cover.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. All right. No, I was just curious. And I
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  Speaker 1: would also think, As I was asking that question.
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  Speaker 2: I said, well, this is kind of coming out as
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  Speaker 2: a stupid question because clearly you're going to cover somebody
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  Speaker 2: who's just making news. Like if somebody says something or
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  Speaker 2: does something that's newsworthy, you're going to cover it. But
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  Speaker 2: there's not– I guess the question I was really trying
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  Speaker 2: to ask is there's not certain reporters that are just, listen.
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  Speaker 1: You got to cover, you know, Greg Howard and you
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  Speaker 1: got to cover this person. You don't have, you don't
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  Speaker 1: have that anymore. Not like that.
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  Speaker 4: Not anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think they did at a time.
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  Speaker 5: They probably did similar years ago.
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  Speaker 7: And we don't have a reporter in covering the state
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  Speaker 7: house anymore and having for, for years.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So like, Those races, the state Senate and House races,
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  Speaker 7: are kind of broken down by district.
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  Speaker 5: Like I said, if a district is part.
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  Speaker 7: Of Montville and part of East Lyme, then we would
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  Speaker 7: have either the Montville reporter or the East Lyme reporter come.
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  Speaker 1: Are you in charge of telling people where to go?
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  Speaker 2: Those kinds of situations, it has nothing to do with you?
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  Speaker 2: So there's no, like, because sometimes I envision, like, there's
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  Speaker 2: somebody who's saying, you know, you go here today, you
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  Speaker 2: go here today, you go here today.
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  Speaker 7: Well, for election stories, they probably already know what they're covering.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: But if they don't, they will soon.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to get heated. It's going to get crazy. Again,
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  Speaker 1: Owen Poole is with us.
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  Speaker 2: As always, if you have a comment or a question
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  Speaker 2: for Owens, feel free to call. He's always happy to
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: joust a little bit with you here on these Monday mornings.
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  Speaker 2: You wrote a column, which I commented on. Socialism is
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  Speaker 2: not taking over the country. Talk to me a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about what was behind making this.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I ran a story. I've listened to your show,
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  Speaker 7: so you know. You've been talking a lot about it, too.
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  Speaker 7: A couple of weeks ago, we ran something. It was
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  Speaker 7: a wire story. It was kind of like, defining socialism.
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  Speaker 7: And I got a lot of emails and letters to
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  Speaker 7: the editor and even a few phone calls from people
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  Speaker 7: talking about, like, they didn't like it. And then we
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  Speaker 7: ran a guest op-ed that got a lot of comments.
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  Speaker 1: Who was the op-ed? I forget.
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  Speaker 5: It was Paul Whitescarver.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, yeah, Paul. Yeah, okay. I didn't see that.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go read that.
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  Speaker 5: It was, like, two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: And it got a lot of comments.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 5: And it was very well written.
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  Speaker 7: He's written for us before, and I've talked to him,
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  Speaker 7: and we had a good conversation before I ran it.
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  Speaker 5: I just wanted a couple questions. But it was kind
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  Speaker 5: of on the mind of a lot of people, it seemed.
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  Speaker 7: So I ran it, got a lot of comments, and
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  Speaker 7: then after that, I decided to write an editorial, because
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  Speaker 7: I thought the editorial was written for mainly two reasons.
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  Speaker 7: One is the people who are, first, a lot of
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  Speaker 7: people are winning primaries that are.
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  Speaker 5: At least lean socialists.
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  Speaker 1: And the.
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  Speaker 5: Ma'am Donnie's getting a lot of, you know, momentum.
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  Speaker 1: He's the face of the Democrat Party right now.
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  Speaker 5: Right now, probably, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Him and AOC.
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  Speaker 5: And AOC and, you know, Bernie is still.
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  Speaker 9: Agreed.
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  Speaker 5: So, like, those people are popular. So their ideas shouldn't
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  Speaker 5: be dismissed.
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  Speaker 7: I just kind of felt like a lot of people
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  Speaker 7: were just, they hear the word socialism and they immediately
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  Speaker 7: jump to communism and everybody hates America and these people
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  Speaker 7: can't be trusted. When the other part is that, like,
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  Speaker 7: a lot of, socialist practices are in place now in.
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  Speaker 5: This country.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, you can go up
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  Speaker 7: and down. It wasn't a full-throated endorsement of socialism because
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  Speaker 7: I don't think socialism as a practice will work. But
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  Speaker 7: I do think some elements of socialism can and do work.
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  Speaker 7: So that was kind of the point of the editorial.
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  Speaker 2: So the problem with that, to me, the problem with
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  Speaker 2: that argument is really what we have is a sort
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  Speaker 2: of a hybrid socialism.
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  Speaker 1: I pay into my Social Security.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not like it's my money that I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: spit back at.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So it's a little bit different than just pure socialism.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, totally.
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  Speaker 1: And then the same goes for.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean, like, it's a socialist idea.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But the things that Mondami is trying to put in
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  Speaker 2: place in New York are already failing. And let me
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  Speaker 2: just ask you this question. And I'm not saying you're
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  Speaker 2: endorsing socialism.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: But the point is, like, let's look at the grocery stores,
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  Speaker 2: for argument's sake. So it's going to cost the taxpayers,
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  Speaker 2: I read a couple different places, but let's just say
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  Speaker 2: $ 50 million to build these grocery stores, right?
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  Speaker 1: You've got to build them, then you're going to stock them.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that, you know, he's hiring outside companies
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  Speaker 2: to do all that, but you're paying him to, you're
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  Speaker 2: paying the.
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  Speaker 1: Freight of that with taxpayer money.
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  Speaker 2: So the taxpayers are paying for the for the groceries
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  Speaker 2: and the grocery stores. And then he's promising a 30% discount, right,
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  Speaker 2: for the people that are shopping there. So the taxpayers
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  Speaker 2: are paying all this money to get a 30% discount.
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  Speaker 2: And while you're doing that, you're putting a mom-and-pop store
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  Speaker 2: out of.
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  Speaker 1: Business who's, like, a block away. Yeah. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: flawed argument.
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  Speaker 7: Well, one of the things in the editorial I wrote is, like,
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  Speaker 7: it's not... I'm not defending socialism on the whole. And
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  Speaker 7: I even said, pointed out that I don't think the
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  Speaker 7: government should be in the grocery.
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  Speaker 5: Business at all.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 7: But to me, part of one of the interesting things
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  Speaker 7: about this country, how big it is, how sprawling it is,
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  Speaker 7: how populated it is. You can get away with these
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  Speaker 7: kind of experiments, political experiments in.
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  Speaker 5: Different pockets of the country.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.
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  Speaker 7: So like it really only matters to people in New
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  Speaker 7: York City. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
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  Speaker 7: But the fact that they can get away, that they
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  Speaker 7: can try it, I think is a good thing.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see if it works or not. Maybe it won't.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so the.
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  Speaker 2: Thing that got me about, that I thought was good
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  Speaker 2: about the column is that I thought you tapped into
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  Speaker 2: the idea that it's.
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  Speaker 1: Very popular, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But the question I wanted to ask you is why
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  Speaker 2: do you think it's very popular?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it's very popular?
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  Speaker 2: Because to me it's seeming– the one thing that we
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  Speaker 2: need to all sit down on and figure out– like
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  Speaker 2: I still think capitalism is– it's the greatest system that
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  Speaker 2: we've ever put in place.
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  Speaker 1: It's the one that built this nation.
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  Speaker 2: It's tremendous amounts of wealth in 250 years.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing else has really ever been– been pushed forward that
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  Speaker 1: has done it.
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  Speaker 5: I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 7: As an economic system, capitalism is probably the best way to...
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  Speaker 7: The best thing that we have, for sure. I agree
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  Speaker 7: with that.
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  Speaker 2: And there's no argument to defend positions of people out
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  Speaker 2: there who are arguing against it.
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  Speaker 1: There's no argument... Well, you can have a debate, but.
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  Speaker 2: There certainly is a widening of the ultra-rich and the poor.
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  Speaker 2: There's a disappearing of the middle class. We need to
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  Speaker 2: fix that somehow. Now, I don't know how.
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  Speaker 1: I don't either. And I don't think just taking money.
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  Speaker 2: Like everyone, like the AOCs of the world will say, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's just add a tax on the millionaires or the
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  Speaker 2: billionaires in this case because she happens to be closing
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  Speaker 2: in on millionaires.
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  Speaker 1: So let's do it on the billionaires.
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  Speaker 2: And then my question would be what– who's, who's picking
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  Speaker 2: this arbitrary number out of the sky to.
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  Speaker 1: Throw down as a tax. Like, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And also who, like, we're going to tax the millionaires
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  Speaker 7: or the billionaires who, who's, who sets the line.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And then also getting more taxes. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean?
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  Speaker 2: And they always, always forget in this equation, Owen, is
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  Speaker 2: that these people who are, have wealth still pay an overwhelming.
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  Speaker 1: Majority of the taxes. It's not even close.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and 40 something percent of the people don't
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  Speaker 1: pay any taxes. So. No, that's all right.
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  Speaker 7: Um, I think part of the reason that socialism, I think,
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  Speaker 7: is gaining momentum is because frustration with Washington, with the
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  Speaker 7: current political system and current climate. But what I would
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  Speaker 7: warn against is Washington in general and Congress in particular
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: right now is– the approval rating and the trust is– nothing.
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, nobody likes anybody in Washington. Nobody trusts Congress.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: Congress is just sitting on their hands. So, socialists are
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: asking the government to do more, which is kind of a,
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: you know, like, doesn't make a lot of sense if
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: you have no trust in your government. Why do you
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: want them to do more?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And that's a huge difference between somebody like myself and
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: somebody who's a socialist. I want my government to do less.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I want my government to get out of my way. Like,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I think Whenever the government sticks its nose in something,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: it doesn't work. Even what we pride ourselves on.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: One of the things that we put our flag in
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the ground and say we do better than anybody else
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: is our military. And we do do military better than anybody.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: But we also probably spend. Twice as much as we
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: have to not. I mean, I want all the bombs
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: and the guns, but I think we have a lot
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: of bloat, red tape and fat within that system as well.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: So we continue to do that. And, you know, that's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you know, that that is to me, you can't even
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: argue that anything the government touches ends up being. A
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: colossal– in most cases a colossal disaster.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: I would mostly agree.
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: I think a lot of the reason too is like
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: people start leaning towards socialism is– or not necessarily just
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: socialism but a different way of thinking about is younger
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: people now, people in their 20s. I think they get
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: a bad rap or bad rep about being lazy. Nobody
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: wants to work.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's really true.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: I think a lot of people– who are in their
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: 20s and are newly out of college and in the workforce,
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: I don't think they're lazy. I mean, of course, some
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: of them are, but generally I don't think they are.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: But they got sold kind of a bill of goods
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: by their parents and older people about the American dream,
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: and you go to college and you get a job
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: and you.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: Buy a house and start a family. A lot of
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: them can't afford it now.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So they're frustrated.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: Because they thought that people are graduating college with mountains
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: of debt. They can't afford an apartment. I mean, I
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: think back when I was 24 and I had an
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: apartment and I lived a pretty decent life.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: I went out with my friends. I did stuff. A
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: lot of people who are in.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Mid-20s or newly out of college and have jobs, they're
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: still living with their parents because they can't afford it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: Because the cost of everything has gone through the roof.
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: So they're sitting there like, I have a degree, I
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: have a job, and I'm still living with my parents.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: So they're pissed off. And they want to do something different.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: All right. But you know, it's funny. All the things
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: that you describe, a lot of them I mean, I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: think a lot of what we.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Have as an issue in this country is born out
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: of the tremendous amount of debt that we have.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: You know, we have $ 40 trillion in debt.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: We print money, which causes everything to escalate in price
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: at an incredible rate.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Like, so what.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: And I don't have the numbers in front of me,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: per se, but at one point in time, a certain
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: percentage of your salary would buy a home, right? Like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: four years of salary bought you a home. Now it's,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: you know, now... Well, two years of salary bought your
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: home back in the day. Now it's six years of salary.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Whatever it is, it's actually priced people out of that market.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's wrong. But I think that's born
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: out of us spending money so recklessly that we have
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: devalued the dollar to the point where kids have to
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: spend half a million dollars to buy a house.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: And I understand that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is those programs that were progressive
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and socialistic in nature... have helped fuel the situation which
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: sits in front of.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Us right now. Yeah, I think in a lot of
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: ways you're right.
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: But I think a lot of it is born out
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: of frustration with not just government, but kind of.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Younger people's lot in life.
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: Because, you know, most of the socialists, Democratic socialists, people
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: who lean progressive, are young.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right about that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: And a lot of it, I think, comes from frustration.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: And a lot of people, too, you know, Want everyone,
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: you know, to kind of be on the same level
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: playing field. I think that as long as stripped down,
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: I think that's what socialism is.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with people having the same.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Like we all should want equal opportunity. Like that's that's
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: without question. Equal opportunity, 100 percent. But you can't guarantee
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: equitable outcome. Like if me and you work harder than
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I do on something.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: You should be rewarded for that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And any socialist experiment that they have always ends up
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: with the overachievers doing less and the underachievers getting stuff
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: for free. No matter where you do it, it ends
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: up even if it's in a classroom, they do experiments
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: on this all the time. where they tell kids, you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: you're all going to get C's no matter what.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a frustrating thing for these guys, to me.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Anyway, a bunch of people want me to ask you,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: and I don't want to put you on the spot
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: with this, but your sort of basic definition of socialism.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: Like, you know, I wouldn't say controlling the means of production, but,
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: I mean— you know, like a baseline starting point for everyone.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: All right, so an equal start.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: For everybody.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Equitable, equality of, well, equality of onset, but not the
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: equitable outcome.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: And like I said, I wouldn't recommend, I don't think
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: socialism works as a complete political system.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I don't. I do not.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: But I also don't think that it's, going to lead
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: to communism, which a lot of people do.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I... Okay. Well, we can... I just think that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And I said this the other day, and I want
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: to finish up with two things, because I want to
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: make sure I ask you this one question. I just
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: don't know of any place on the planet where it's worked. Like,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you can't point to a country that is socialist in
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: nature that has succeeded.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I think there's some European countries, which are.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: But those are not, and I'll be the first to admit,
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: those are not great examples.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: They're not great comparisons.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: But people always say like Scandinavia or Sweden or some
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: of these other places, but they're not true socialist nations.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: There's a handful of truly socialist nations.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: So I don't think they work.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: So the other thing I wanted to say is, again,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: this is not something that you created, but You had
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a previous person who worked at the day paper who demanded, right,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: that everybody who is a Republican denounce Donald Trump and MAGA, right,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: no matter what.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: They could have been the most wonderful person.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, he has this ongoing feud with Greg Howard,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: who is, you know, maybe.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: One of the most— Well, he also doesn't work there anymore.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, I get that. But what I'm saying— here' s.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: The point I want to make, is that the day
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: paper had no problem— letting that fly on a regular basis.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Like you would, he would demand people denounce Trump.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Even if they didn't agree with any of Trump's anything.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: No one really denounced Trump. He's the leader of the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Republican party. You can't get away with doing that. I
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: guess my question is we're living in a capitalist society.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: If the day paper is going to get somewhat behind
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: social or don't you think that the day paper should
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: ask the Democrat folks to denounce socialism?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yes. Cause we're, this is a capitalist society. You know
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Does that make sense?
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: That's a good point. I mean, yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: I would also point out that the person you're talking
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: to– It's not your fault.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: He did get away with it for a long time.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: You're right about that. And then he didn't.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Right. I know.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: And now he doesn't work there anymore.
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess what I'm saying is that– so that's
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: not a practice that we can look for moving forward.
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: But I'm not– like I said, I'm not advocating socialism anymore.
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: as a policy for our country. I'm just saying there
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: are some socialist ideas that can work.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry if– No, it's all right. I don't
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: want that to come across.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you're advocating that. I'm just saying
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: that the column was a– wasn't a cover fire for socialism,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: but you were sort of just pointing out that it's
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: very popular, et cetera.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and because it's popular or gaining popularity– People should
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: listen to them.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: All right, so then I guess the point I was
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: trying to make is if in the future the day
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: paper is asking candidates to denounce the current president of
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: the United States or at least criticize the current president
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: of the United States in order to either get an
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: endorsement or to be written about, then I think it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: fair that– socialism be denounced by the Democrat?
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: I think that's a perfectly fair point and a good question,
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: but I bet most Democrats would do the same thing
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: that most locally would do the same thing. They would
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: try to tap dance around it as much as they could.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: Some of them would not at all.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: Some of the more progressive legislators around here and candidates
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: and officials.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: The more progressive, they wouldn't.
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: They would advocate for it, endorse it, I would think.
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, some of the more moderates might try to
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: tiptoe around it like Republicans did around here.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: That's my guess.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: All right. I just want to throw that out there.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I did a bad job explaining that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: No, it's fine.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Real quick, because we don't have a lot of time,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: but you guys also wrote a column about Trump is
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: undermining trust in elections.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: But we do get... like almost on a regular basis,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: some situations. Bridgeport has another case.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: They're all in Bridgeport.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: But I mean, still, man, there's another case. Guys opening
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: up freaking ballots and changing them.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, every election issue in Connecticut is in Bridgeport.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: That we've caught.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: But I mean, what do you mean that we've caught?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, it's almost like when you
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: say there's absolutely no issues with elections... And then we
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: find out that, well, there are a number of illegal
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: aliens who are on voter rolls.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: That's a problem. I mean, no matter what.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, do you think a national ID is the
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: way to go?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's silly not to have, to me, if
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: you don't have some kind of voter ID, I don't
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: know why we don't have it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And I also don't know why at the DMV. Explain
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to me why at the DMV you don't have.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: To prove your citizenship to get If I go to
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the DMV right now and I'm a legal alien, okay,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I get the opportunity to get a license because that
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: was voted on by the legislature. So they give me
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a license because I'm supposed to get insurance with that, right?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I can't get insurance without the license. So they also
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: ask me.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: On that, either on a screen or somebody who's checking
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: a box says, are you a citizen?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And if I just say yes, then I get a vote.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I can vote. It's that simple. Now, the Democrats are saying.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, you mean they don't like verify it? They don't
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: confirm it?
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: They can't because they can't ask you for your citizenship papers.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: So all they do is ask you. Now, the Democrats
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: will say, well, it's a perjury situation.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. People are just going to if they
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: want to vote, they just say yes. And they're voting.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I know you don't think that's it, but how do
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: we know how many of them have voted? We don't. Yeah,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I mean– Just something to think about. That's all. Sure.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: But I mean like take– so, okay.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: Do you think in Connecticut like Republicans are being– votes
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: are being suppressed somehow?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're being suppressed, but I do
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: think that the Democrats have a better way of– of
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: either getting, not getting the vote out, but they have
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: a better mechanism for, let's say, going to get, I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: just want to go back, when you say suppressed, I
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: don't think they're getting suppressed. I think the more accurate
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: term is that there are people that are on these
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: rolls that shouldn't be on these rolls, is probably the
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: best way to say it. I mean, we know, Trump
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: went on the air the other night and what he
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: talked about, maybe a couple hundred thousand in just four
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: or five states that were illegal aliens who weren't.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Supposed to be there. That's just in a couple of states.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: So what are we talking about? Maybe three, four million.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: That changes elections.
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: But, I mean, how much does it change elections if
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: Trump won?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I mean— I understand what you're saying as far as
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: that goes. It doesn't necessarily– it just means that they're
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: on there. And there should be a better way for
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: us to have confidence in the elections.
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: Do you think Trump is doing this, like, genuinely because
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: he's worried about elections? Or do you think he's doing
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: it as a way to kind of set the stage
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: for if he loses?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Well, he can't run again. Oh, that's true.
• 31:07
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: He can't run again. But, I mean– Yeah. See, I
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: think this time he's doing it. It's legitimate.
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: So, I mean, OK, so when he puts on the
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: Trump 2028 hat and kind of mentions that he's going to.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be right. I'll be right down next to
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: you in Washington. We can we can ride over that one.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not. Listen, I mean, you say, you know, you
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: listen to the show. You know, I'm not MAGA.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: So it's like he does some things I like. He
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: does a lot of things I don't like. The kid's
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: making tons of money off what he's doing. That bothers me.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Him making a bunch of money, it really bothers me.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that he does that bothers me.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I don't take the 2028 stuff seriously.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: You don't?
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: No.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And if he did try to do that, like I said,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I'd be right down there holding the sign with you saying, no,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: he's got to go. So I can promise you that. TheDay.com.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Tell everybody where else they can go to find out
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: more stuff. Any place else? No.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: I mean, we have a Facebook page and all that.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: You can send letters. I like running letters to the editor.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: I run them as much as I can.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: You must get a lot now with politics, like an angle,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: like candidate stuff, right?
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Not so much yet.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: But, I mean, they will be.
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, I've been around for a couple of elections,
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: doing this for a couple of elections, and they.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: This guy stinks. This guy's great, right?
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: The month or so leading up to it, you get
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: a lot of it.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: How do you determine? That's a good question. How do
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you determine what goes? Do you try to make that even?
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: No, I'll run whatever.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll run it. Okay.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: So if you get, like, let's say 10 anti-Kathy Austin emails,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: you'll run them.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, as long as you're not saying things that
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: are false. Right, right, right, right.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, if you don't try to balance it out.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Some people write in there, like, this guy's, you know, like.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: I don't like too much name-calling and stuff like that,
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: but I like running letters. Also, there's also some candidates
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: you can kind of tell have people.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: I was going to ask you that too. Everybody, let's
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: get out and write letters, which is fine.
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: There's nothing wrong against it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I got one more question for you on that. I
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: know we're running late, but do you have any kind
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: of software that determines whether or not some of this
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: stuff is AI?
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: Generated not software i mean you can run it through
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: like do you ever do that i have yeah but
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: also i think some of it is not quite right
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: what do you mean like i mean i did something
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: a couple weeks ago and i'm almost positive that it
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: wasn't ai but it said it was like more than
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: likely ai oh.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: So you know you yeah because you so i think some.
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: Of the whatever you know algorithm or not not now
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: but you know what i mean like some of the
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: i guess software that that the website uses yeah I'm
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: not quite sure about.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: Because it works the other way, too, where I'm like,
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: I read something that I'm like, this has got to
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: be AI.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: But then it says, you know what I mean? I
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: don't use it, like, daily, but I have used it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Interesting. All right, buddy. Thanks.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: OnPool, Day Paper, Day.com. Check it out today. I'm running
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: super late. We'll come back. Steven Bucci from the Heritage Foundation.
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: Unfiltered truth, the cold hard facts, and the realest take
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  Speaker 11: in the game.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I'm Joey Stats.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: The Stats don't lie.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: You need to be listening. We're doing all right today.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: We're getting through a Monday.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: We had the Monday Blahs early on, but I think
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: we're turning it around.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I think we're turning it around.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Listen, every week it seems like I ask you the
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: same question, and it almost seems like we're in the
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: exact same position every single week. I know we had
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: this brief little look like, oh, maybe we're going to
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: get peace.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe we're going to have a deal. Maybe things are
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: going to work out.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: And then bombs start dropping and missiles start flying and
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: we're back in the same spot.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And now we're out there.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: We still have the blockade going on and they're doing
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: this and they're doing that.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: So talk to me. It's been seven days since we chatted.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: What's different?
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: Really, not too much other than. They've seemingly, they being
• 34:45
  Speaker 14: the Iranians, have resurrected this concept of, well, it's not
• 34:50
  Speaker 14: just us. It's us and our good brothers across the
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: straits there, the Omanis. We're going to run the straits.
• 35:00
  Speaker 14: And that's as unacceptable as the Iranians doing it alone.
• 35:04
  Speaker 14: You know, we should not, one, we should be telling
• 35:07
  Speaker 14: the Omanis on the side, stop the crap. You want
• 35:12
  Speaker 14: to be friends with the Iranians? We could add you
• 35:14
  Speaker 14: to the target list. Otherwise, stop playing footsie with them
• 35:17
  Speaker 14: on your own. That's not helpful. The Iranians and the
• 35:23
  Speaker 14: Omanis don't own the Straits of Hormuz. They own the
• 35:27
  Speaker 14: little bits of it on their coastlines, but the stuff
• 35:30
  Speaker 14: in the middle is international waters, and nobody cares that
• 35:35
  Speaker 14: the Iranians and the Omanis have cut a deal and
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: that suddenly they're going to be in charge of the
• 35:40
  Speaker 14: whole thing. The world did not agree to that, and
• 35:44
  Speaker 14: the Iranians and for sure the Omanis have no business
• 35:48
  Speaker 14: declaring it. And if they do, they're breaking international law.
• 35:53
  Speaker 14: So that's of no consequence. That's a public affairs thing
• 36:00
  Speaker 14: with no substance to it and should be dismissed publicly
• 36:05
  Speaker 14: by our government and all the other governments in the
• 36:08
  Speaker 14: world that use the streets. For sure, the other.
• 36:13
  Speaker 14: I can't believe they want to give anybody control over
• 36:17
  Speaker 14: it alone, whether they're the Omanis or the Iranians. And,
• 36:23
  Speaker 14: you know, no offense, I'm not criticizing you, but this
• 36:27
  Speaker 14: desire we have to get a deal, we've got to
• 36:29
  Speaker 14: get a deal. For what? We need to get rid
• 36:33
  Speaker 14: of this government. They are the problem. It is not us.
• 36:38
  Speaker 14: something we started. It's not something that is, you know, again,
• 36:43
  Speaker 14: we're going back to the, you know, immediate post 9-11
• 36:48
  Speaker 14: after Al Qaeda attacked us. And people were saying, well,
• 36:52
  Speaker 14: we need to find out what Al Qaeda really wants,
• 36:55
  Speaker 14: what really motivates them, you know, why they did this.
• 36:59
  Speaker 14: And if we could just accommodate that, we'll all be friends.
• 37:02
  Speaker 14: That's baloney. They're not going to be friends with us
• 37:06
  Speaker 14: They are not going to cooperate with us more than
• 37:09
  Speaker 14: five minutes until we step away and they'll start shooting
• 37:13
  Speaker 14: at us again. These people cannot be trusted, Lee. They
• 37:18
  Speaker 14: are not honest and legitimate negotiating partners. We need to
• 37:23
  Speaker 14: stop imagining that they're suddenly going to become that because
• 37:27
  Speaker 14: they won't. They've proved for 47 years they are incapable
• 37:31
  Speaker 14: of doing that. They have no desire to do that.
• 37:34
  Speaker 14: They just want what they want. And if they can
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: screw us in the process, that's a victory for them. Well,
• 37:41
  Speaker 14: we need to disabuse them of the misconception that that's
• 37:46
  Speaker 14: a good policy. And the only way to do that,
• 37:49
  Speaker 14: that I can see, is by taking out the sticks
• 37:53
  Speaker 14: and starting to hammer them again.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: When do you think, I mean, it seems like we're
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: still doing this on our own, right? So none of
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: our allies really are. are right there behind us, et cetera,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: and we do get the spattering of help, smattering of
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: help from some of the other countries, but nothing real substantial. When,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: if ever, do you think these other countries will say, okay,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: let's just get this over with, let's do it, open
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: up the straits again, let's put in a new regime,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: whatever it.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Takes, let's get this done? Do you see that ever coming,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: or is this just going to be us?
• 38:27
  Speaker 14: You know, I think it will always be predominantly us.
• 38:33
  Speaker 14: because the other guys are either too scared, they don't
• 38:36
  Speaker 14: think they have the capabilities, they don't want to take
• 38:40
  Speaker 14: the chance that America will get bored and walk away,
• 38:45
  Speaker 14: and they'll be stuck with this big, mean neighbor that
• 38:48
  Speaker 14: can come after them. So we need to be prepared
• 38:53
  Speaker 14: to act alone. And there's enough interest to be protected
• 38:58
  Speaker 14: enough by the United States, for the United States, that
• 39:03
  Speaker 14: it would be worthwhile doing that. Yes, it will also
• 39:07
  Speaker 14: benefit these other countries. And yes, we really love for
• 39:10
  Speaker 14: them to chip in one way or another and help
• 39:15
  Speaker 14: us to do this. But if there's enough interest for
• 39:19
  Speaker 14: us to do it alone anyway, we should just go
• 39:21
  Speaker 14: ahead and do it. If that benefits others in the process, well,
• 39:25
  Speaker 14: maybe we'll garner some goodwill with that. I'm not terribly
• 39:29
  Speaker 14: worried about it. the goodwill with most of these neighbors.
• 39:32
  Speaker 14: They're all second and third tier countries and powers. They
• 39:38
  Speaker 14: don't have the capability to help us that much anyway.
• 39:43
  Speaker 14: So let's just go ahead and get it done. And
• 39:46
  Speaker 14: I'm not advocating for us to be the policemen of
• 39:49
  Speaker 14: the world. I'm advocating for us to protect and promote
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: America's vital national interests. And when we do that, because
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: of who we are and the kind of interests we
• 40:02
  Speaker 14: focus on, they're usually pretty big, pretty overarching. There'll be
• 40:07
  Speaker 14: a lot of people who can get benefit by coming
• 40:09
  Speaker 14: under that umbrella. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but
• 40:15
  Speaker 14: it's darn sure not a reason not to do it
• 40:18
  Speaker 14: if some of those people who would benefit from it
• 40:22
  Speaker 14: don't come alongside and participate. If it's in our interest,
• 40:26
  Speaker 14: go ahead and do it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Colonel Stephen Bucci joining us.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: So that being said, you want to open up the
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: can at Whoop-Ass, and I think I'm with you on that.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I do feel like that's the place we need to be.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: But I did read some reports. New York Times has
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: a report that's corroborated by some other folks. Are you
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: at all nervous about that they're saying that we're low
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: on munitions.
• 40:53
  Speaker 14: We're low on munitions for the long term or some
• 40:58
  Speaker 14: follow-on operation in another part of the world. We're not
• 41:04
  Speaker 14: down to three bullets in our 17-round magazine. We're not
• 41:09
  Speaker 14: at that level. And anybody who says that is a
• 41:13
  Speaker 14: loon because.
• 41:16
  Speaker 14: Or they're just a habitual pearl-clutcher. It's an issue. The
• 41:24
  Speaker 14: administration has already started addressing it. They started addressing it
• 41:28
  Speaker 14: about a week after this thing started when Trump brought
• 41:31
  Speaker 14: in all those arms manufacturers and said, hey, we need
• 41:37
  Speaker 14: you guys to up your production levels, and we'll pay
• 41:41
  Speaker 14: you to do it, but you've got to produce more
• 41:44
  Speaker 14: of these because we need them. And that process has
• 41:47
  Speaker 14: already started. Just stopping now and letting the Iranians rebuild
• 41:53
  Speaker 14: and recoup and do all that, to gain what? Are
• 41:58
  Speaker 14: we going to let them recoup for two or three
• 41:59
  Speaker 14: years while we fully fix all the shortfalls that the
• 42:05
  Speaker 14: Obama administration and Biden administration created? If people think that's
• 42:10
  Speaker 14: a good idea, they're either very, very optimistic— or they
• 42:17
  Speaker 14: really don't understand how fast or how slow it is
• 42:20
  Speaker 14: to do this. But we should not stop operations because
• 42:26
  Speaker 14: in a potential operation down the road, we could run out.
• 42:32
  Speaker 14: We need to get busy producing more. And if that
• 42:35
  Speaker 14: costs more money, we need to spend more money to
• 42:37
  Speaker 14: do it.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: And these ammunition places, I'm assuming they're located all over
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: the country. I mean, they could, Like, I don't know,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what it takes to restock this,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: but is this a long, tedious process, or is this
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: just like any other factory, just turn it on, flip
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: the switch, and start banging these things out?
• 42:58
  Speaker 14: No, we don't have enough of these facilities. They're very specialized.
• 43:03
  Speaker 14: A lot of this stuff is pretty high-tech, like extraordinarily high-tech.
• 43:09
  Speaker 14: So we're not talking about running out of litterblitz or...
• 43:14
  Speaker 14: dumb bombs or that. We got lots and lots of
• 43:16
  Speaker 14: those things. What we're talking about starting to get to
• 43:22
  Speaker 14: levels where the logisticians are concerned is on the very
• 43:29
  Speaker 14: high cutting edge, smart technology, long range ballistic missiles, rockets,
• 43:37
  Speaker 14: other stuff that we use to do the pinpoint targeting.
• 43:42
  Speaker 14: We have lots of munitions that we can use but
• 43:46
  Speaker 14: the best stuff we have takes it's very expensive takes
• 43:51
  Speaker 14: a long time to build and there are very few
• 43:53
  Speaker 14: facilities that do it so we either need to expand
• 43:57
  Speaker 14: the facilities which would be my recommendation and find ways
• 44:02
  Speaker 14: you know run three shifts whatever you need to do
• 44:05
  Speaker 14: to uh up the production of the facilities that we
• 44:09
  Speaker 14: already have uh and we need to do it now
• 44:17
  Speaker 14: We need to authorize money, we need to sign the contracts,
• 44:20
  Speaker 14: and we need to get these companies moving. America's industry
• 44:26
  Speaker 14: will figure out a way to do it fast and
• 44:29
  Speaker 14: still do it well, but they need to be paid.
• 44:32
  Speaker 14: They're not going to do it assuming, well, we might
• 44:35
  Speaker 14: get paid for this later. They need to see the green,
• 44:39
  Speaker 14: which it's kind of hard to argue with a business
• 44:41
  Speaker 14: person who thinks that way.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you one more.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I know we've kind of talked about this before in
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the past, but what does a toppled Iranian regime look like?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, is it a simple let's go wipe these
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: new guys out? Or I mean, what do we have
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: to in your mind? What do we have to do
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: to accomplish what it is that you're thinking?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: It can't be just kill the people at the top.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Because they just seem like they replace them with somebody else.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: What has to happen?
• 45:10
  Speaker 14: We need to also enable the resistance elements that are
• 45:17
  Speaker 14: there in Iran or just outside Iran with some of
• 45:22
  Speaker 14: the expatriate groups. And you've got to be selective, too.
• 45:28
  Speaker 14: You've got to make sure you do the intel right,
• 45:30
  Speaker 14: which I'll be the first to admit we did not
• 45:34
  Speaker 14: do as well as we could have before we went
• 45:37
  Speaker 14: into Iraq, for example. We thought some of the expatriate
• 45:42
  Speaker 14: groups that, you know, pushed themselves forward and said, oh, no,
• 45:46
  Speaker 14: we got all the contacts. We'll go in. We'll be
• 45:49
  Speaker 14: able to take over the government and move the country forward.
• 45:52
  Speaker 14: And it turned out that a lot of those expat
• 45:55
  Speaker 14: groups had no contacts inside the country. And, in fact,
• 45:59
  Speaker 14: the people left in the country were still ticked at
• 46:02
  Speaker 14: all those expats because they got away. And they weren't
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: living under the dictator for all that time. There's possibly
• 46:10
  Speaker 14: that kind of dynamic. He will do a better job
• 46:14
  Speaker 14: of picking who we're going to support to try and
• 46:18
  Speaker 14: move them into a coalition to replace the present government.
• 46:25
  Speaker 14: But a lot of these people are going to come
• 46:26
  Speaker 14: from inside. There's a lot of different groups inside Iran.
• 46:32
  Speaker 14: It's not a uniform population. There are a lot of,
• 46:37
  Speaker 14: you know... fissures in the society between the different groups.
• 46:43
  Speaker 14: We need to work to get them to work together
• 46:47
  Speaker 14: and try and come up with legitimate folks who will
• 46:51
  Speaker 14: be prepared to step in and try and fix what
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: the radical mullers have broken for the last 47 years.
• 47:01
  Speaker 14: I'm not saying that's easy.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: It's not.
• 47:03
  Speaker 14: It's an extraordinarily difficult task. But letting The present government
• 47:09
  Speaker 14: stay in place is just not a tenable solution in
• 47:13
  Speaker 14: my mind. They are not going to change. It doesn't
• 47:16
  Speaker 14: matter what concessions we give them or what negotiations we have.
• 47:23
  Speaker 14: They are such true believers. The only solution is to
• 47:27
  Speaker 14: get rid of them. And frankly, anything that replaces them
• 47:32
  Speaker 14: is going to be better than what's there now.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Colonel Stephen Bucci with us chatting about things happening in Iran.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: You know, what about our, like, CIA ops, that kind
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: of stuff, our special operations guys and gals? I mean,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: would they have a huge impact here getting inside, messing
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: things up?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, how does that work?
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: Yeah, but from the standpoint of what we call unconventional warfare,
• 48:02
  Speaker 14: where you go in and work with the locals— train them,
• 48:06
  Speaker 14: arm them, talk to them, motivate them, help them plan,
• 48:12
  Speaker 14: and let them do it. Special operations alone don't normally
• 48:18
  Speaker 14: take over countries. They've got to get the locals involved,
• 48:23
  Speaker 14: our folks working with them. The CIA ground branch has
• 48:27
  Speaker 14: that capability, but it's pretty small. The Military special operators
• 48:34
  Speaker 14: have the bulk of that capability. But, you know, when
• 48:38
  Speaker 14: you start deploying military special operators, that counts as an invasion.
• 48:44
  Speaker 14: The same way you do is if you send in
• 48:46
  Speaker 14: Marine units and bats, because it's the code, you know,
• 48:55
  Speaker 14: the laws under the U.S. code that covers them. They're
• 48:59
  Speaker 14: either military operations or intel operations. So even though they
• 49:04
  Speaker 14: look exactly the same because of who does it, it
• 49:08
  Speaker 14: falls under different laws. So it's a big decision, and
• 49:12
  Speaker 14: it's dangerous. Those very precious assets, they're at risk when
• 49:17
  Speaker 14: they're inside a country with a lot of intel. control
• 49:20
  Speaker 14: mechanisms like Iran, like the Soviet Union used to be
• 49:25
  Speaker 14: and the Warsaw Pact countries used to be. It's difficult.
• 49:29
  Speaker 14: Our guys in DAOs are trained to do it, and
• 49:33
  Speaker 14: I really think that's the only way we're going to
• 49:35
  Speaker 14: get this thing moving. because the people are kind of
• 49:40
  Speaker 14: paralyzed right now. I think killing all the bad guys
• 49:44
  Speaker 14: is a start, because that gives more opportunity for the
• 49:49
  Speaker 14: people to rise up without getting crushed. But I think
• 49:53
  Speaker 14: we need to increase the likelihood of their success by
• 49:58
  Speaker 14: getting some of these folks in there that can help
• 50:00
  Speaker 14: them do it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you one more.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: We don't have a lot of time, but interesting thing
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: here with looking at the very recent revealed technological advances,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: when do you really foresee robotic ground troops being deployed
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: in a mass scale?
• 50:19
  Speaker 14: That's going to be a while. I mean, there's using
• 50:23
  Speaker 14: drones controlled by humans or, you know, as it really
• 50:27
  Speaker 14: gets going, autonomous drones that are programmed by humans to
• 50:33
  Speaker 14: go after a specific target in a specific place, you're
• 50:37
  Speaker 14: going to see that more and more. They're looking at
• 50:40
  Speaker 14: Ukraine and see what the Ukrainians have been pulling off
• 50:43
  Speaker 14: there as force multipliers. Having a bunch of humanoid-looking robots
• 50:48
  Speaker 14: that march across the battlefield with bullets bouncing off of
• 50:52
  Speaker 14: them and they go take the city, I don't think
• 50:56
  Speaker 14: that's going to happen for a while.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: All right, Colonel.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Listen, thank you very much. A lot of folks out there,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: believe it or not, I'm getting a lot of social
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: media and Internet and e-mails. People are nervous in particular
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: about the munitions. They're hearing a lot of bad things
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: about that. So hopefully they feel a little bit better
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: about what you said today. But just letting you know.
• 51:14
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I think there's a lot of Mary Ann's out
• 51:17
  Speaker 14: there that are no offense to anybody named Mary Ann.
• 51:21
  Speaker 14: But there's a lot of people doing that, doing the
• 51:24
  Speaker 14: public hand-wringing because they're trying to hamstring the effort. I
• 51:29
  Speaker 14: don't think it's that big a problem. If it was,
• 51:32
  Speaker 14: the military would look the president in the eye and say, boss,
• 51:36
  Speaker 14: shut it down. We're at risk if we keep doing this.
• 51:39
  Speaker 14: They have not yet said that. There's been some leaks,
• 51:43
  Speaker 14: but nobody in authority has said that yet. So I
• 51:49
  Speaker 14: don't believe we're at that point.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: All right, brother. Listen, ask Bucci on the X. Go
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: follow him. It's a great follow. Heritage.org. Check that out. Colonel,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next week. Thank you, pal.
• 52:00
  Speaker 14: Sounds good, Lee. Have a great week and be safe.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: You too, brother. All right, we'll come right back. Late edition.
• 52:06
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• 52:08
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• 52:09
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  Speaker 12: Hi, this is Mike Frantz. I was honored to serve
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  Speaker 12: the residents of Ledyard, Preston, and Montville as state representative
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  Speaker 12: for eight years to be your voice in Hartford. I've
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  Speaker 12: always stood up for Connecticut first policies and against radical
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  Speaker 12: Democrat ideas.
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  Speaker 1: I'm asking for your.
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  Speaker 13: You want me to finish up?
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  Speaker 1: If you'd like. I know you do a better job
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  Speaker 1: than me.
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  Speaker 13: I'll take care of it.
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  Speaker 1: You had such a great monologue last week. Did you
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  Speaker 1: want to post it all over the place? How are you, buddy?
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  Speaker 13: I didn't get the, like, American flag, like, blown in
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  Speaker 13: the background. I'm going to switch places with Drew next time.
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  Speaker 1: I'll make sure that... That you're completely set up next time, 100%.
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  Speaker 2: I told you, I'll teach you how to do this,
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  Speaker 2: and you can just box Drew and his shaggy, shedding
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  Speaker 2: hair out of the whole thing. I get here on
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  Speaker 2: Monday morning, and it's like I'm sweeping up after my dog.
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  Speaker 13: I told Shana that the other day. I said, Lee's
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  Speaker 13: going to teach you how to push the buttons. She goes,
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  Speaker 13: I don't think you need any help pushing people's buttons.
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  Speaker 1: Probably not. Probably not. All right, so I got three
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  Speaker 1: things to talk about.
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's go.
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  Speaker 2: One is an email from one of our great listeners
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  Speaker 2: who wanted you to answer this question. If you can,
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  Speaker 2: please explain the question before you answer it.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, so the question is relevant to Connecticut residents who
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  Speaker 13: are working remotely for New York employers, but they're paying...
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  Speaker 13: New York income tax on their Connecticut work. And I've
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  Speaker 13: said this before, there's two main ways that New York
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  Speaker 13: is eating our lunch financially.
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  Speaker 5: Well, three, if you.
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  Speaker 13: Count them stopping the flow of energy coming in. But
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  Speaker 13: let's take that aside. Let's talk about tax base only.
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  Speaker 13: And one of them is this way, because when COVID happened,
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  Speaker 13: as everybody knows, specifically Fairfield County, was flooded with people
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  Speaker 13: coming from New York who now moved here, and they're
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  Speaker 13: working still remotely for the New York companies, and they're
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  Speaker 13: paying income taxes there even though they're doing the work here, right?
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  Speaker 13: So that's one thing, and the House Republican Caucus has
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  Speaker 13: run numerous bills to take that over. That's the first one.
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  Speaker 13: So the question is, you know, what can we do?
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  Speaker 13: And the answer is there's things that we can do,
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  Speaker 13: and we could set our laws, you know, much like
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  Speaker 13: New York's eating our lunch left and right, and we
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  Speaker 13: could set our laws so that people who are working
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  Speaker 13: here are paying their income taxes here, right? That's one thing.
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  Speaker 13: So that's the answer to that question. But I just
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  Speaker 13: want folks to understand the other way that New York
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  Speaker 13: is eating our lunch, the bottle bill. Now, people say, well,
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  Speaker 13: it's $ 0. 05, $ 0. 10. What's the big deal? Well, it becomes
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  Speaker 13: a big deal really quickly when– let's just understand how
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  Speaker 13: the redemption works. When you buy bottles here in Connecticut
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  Speaker 13: or cans, right, you're paying a $ 0. 10 tax on every
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  Speaker 13: one of them, and then you return them. You get
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  Speaker 13: your $ 0. 10 back.
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  Speaker 5: That's how the redemption works, right?
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  Speaker 13: Well, when other states, specifically New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, whatever,
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  Speaker 13: that are close to us, when they're at $ 0. 05 and
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  Speaker 13: we went to $ 0. 10, which we did five years ago,
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  Speaker 13: what's happening now is you have people that are buying
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  Speaker 13: cans in bulk, large numbers when you start talking about everybody,
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  Speaker 13: in New York, and they're paying $ 0. 05 tax to New York.
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  Speaker 13: and they're never redeeming them to New York, so New
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  Speaker 13: York's keeping that five cents. What they are doing is
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  Speaker 13: they're coming to Connecticut and redeeming it for 10 cents
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  Speaker 13: a can, so not only are we getting nothing on
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  Speaker 13: the front end, we're paying 10 cents on the back end,
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  Speaker 13: and New York's pocketing, and it's in the tens of
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  Speaker 13: millions of dollars, these redemptions. Again, we've run bills, and
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  Speaker 13: in fact, Doug Jabitsky, in my opinion, very famously, stood
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  Speaker 13: on the floor last year on an insert and said,
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  Speaker 13: I hate to say I told you so, but we
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  Speaker 13: told you so. We knew this was going to happen
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  Speaker 13: on an amendment. We wanted to go back to five
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  Speaker 13: cents until we could get this situated. And unfortunately, the
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  Speaker 13: majority of the party won't let us.
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  Speaker 1: Do they not think about those kinds of things?
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  Speaker 13: I mean, it's just ridiculous. Even if they didn't think
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  Speaker 13: about it.
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  Speaker 3: They were told.
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  Speaker 13: The House Republicans in that debate stood up and said, listen,
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  Speaker 13: if you do this and you haven't collaborated with the
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  Speaker 13: surrounding states, geographically, we're not a large state.
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  Speaker 5: We're not in the middle of Texas here.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 14: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 13: So you have all these tech, all these other states
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  Speaker 13: that are still at five cents. This is what's going
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  Speaker 13: to happen. And that's why Doug. Representative Dubiski said, I
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  Speaker 13: want to say we told you so, but we told
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  Speaker 13: you so. But the worst part is not only did
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  Speaker 13: they not listen then, it's come to fruition and they
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  Speaker 13: still aren't going to fix it because they won't admit
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  Speaker 13: that they're wrong.
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  Speaker 1: That's so stupid. All right.
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  Speaker 2: One of the questions, though, was from from that particular
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  Speaker 2: piece of information that I handed you is someone claimed
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  Speaker 2: he was taxed for moving to Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Have you heard anything like that?
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  Speaker 13: He was taxed. So I think what's happening is if
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  Speaker 13: you're if you're domiciled in, you know, you live more
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  Speaker 13: than six months a year, 182 days or whatever it
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  Speaker 13: is in another state and you're domiciled there. A lot
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  Speaker 13: of people, what was happening is people were domiciled in
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  Speaker 13: Florida and they were leaving.
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  Speaker 5: Their vehicles here. So they say like me, like I
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  Speaker 5: own a home in pocket.
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  Speaker 13: Let's say I retire and I buy a house in
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  Speaker 13: Florida and I live there six months and three days
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  Speaker 13: a year. but I leave my truck here in Connecticut,
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  Speaker 13: but because I live in Florida, I register in Florida
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  Speaker 13: because it's cheaper or whatever, and that's what I do.
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  Speaker 13: Now I'm driving around not paying Stonington taxes on that vehicle. Well,
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  Speaker 13: what's happening is other states are picking up on that, like, hey,
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  Speaker 13: you own a home out here or whatever, and they're
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  Speaker 13: getting taxed on their vehicles even though they're registered in
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  Speaker 13: another state. And look, I mean, I think it's the
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  Speaker 13: right thing to do. I mean, if your vehicle is
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  Speaker 13: here more than six months a year, I see. be
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  Speaker 13: taxed on it. I mean, just like everybody. Let me
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  Speaker 13: say if we're taxing, right? You should be taxed just
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  Speaker 13: like everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you're registering your vehicle here, shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: it be taxed here?
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  Speaker 13: Well, right, but if people are registering it in Florida
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  Speaker 13: because they're domiciled in Florida but the vehicle stays here.
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  Speaker 5: You know, 12 months a year.
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  Speaker 1: How do you track that?
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  Speaker 13: Well, the tax assessors are actually driving around and seeing
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  Speaker 13: them in the driveway.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah. I just, just in Stonington alone, I think last
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  Speaker 13: year there was.
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  Speaker 1: Several.
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  Speaker 13: I don't remember the number was, it was a lot
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  Speaker 13: higher than I thought it was. It was, you know,
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  Speaker 13: close to a hundred if I remember right. But it was,
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  Speaker 13: it was a pretty big number of people that they've
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  Speaker 13: identified that are domiciled somewhere else and their vehicles are staying.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying if I, if I happen to be
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  Speaker 2: doing that, like I, I registered my car here or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and you come running by and say your car's in
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  Speaker 2: your driveway.
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  Speaker 1: I say, I'm on vacation.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're going to have to go by like
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  Speaker 2: another month down the road and say, oh, it's still there.
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  Speaker 13: That's what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. All right. That's goody for them.
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  Speaker 14: Apparently.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. We can move on.
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  Speaker 2: So if there's any other questions about that before we
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  Speaker 2: run out of time, feel free to email me, leelcradio
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  Speaker 2: at gmail.com or text if you have that access.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, can I just say this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, please.
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  Speaker 13: Some of the people that have reached out to me
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  Speaker 13: are– are lifelong Democrat voters.
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  Speaker 1: About that? Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So let's just be clear about what they did.
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  Speaker 13: They've voted for people in Connecticut that have created a
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  Speaker 13: tax climate that they find to be unbearable.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So they've left, even though they created it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 13: And now they're complaining that they can't beat the system.
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  Speaker 13: That is a failed system that they created. I just
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  Speaker 13: want to point that out.
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  Speaker 2: There's only one way to fix that, those of you
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  Speaker 2: who are listening, and that is even if it's just
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  Speaker 2: for– even if you're a Democrat, it's for the sake
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  Speaker 2: of balancing the scales of power somewhat. You have to
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  Speaker 2: take the legislators that you like the least that are
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  Speaker 2: Democrats and vote them out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious about that.
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  Speaker 13: I mean– Yeah, I think if you're somebody who says
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  Speaker 13: I'm a straight Democrat line voter and you're listening to
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  Speaker 13: this show– Goody to you, man. Yeah, call me. And look,
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  Speaker 13: we may have a conversation, and at the end of it,
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  Speaker 13: you may say, yeah, I'm voting for every... And even
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  Speaker 13: if you're not in my district, I don't care. I'm
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  Speaker 13: voting for every Democrat, state senator, and state rep on
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  Speaker 13: my ballot. That's what I'm going to do based on
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  Speaker 13: what you've told me. Fine, at least you're educated. I
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  Speaker 13: think the biggest thing is a lot of people, they
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  Speaker 13: think they're Democrats, but the Democrat Party's left them behind.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's true, too. I do. Greg Howard
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  Speaker 1: is with us.
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  Speaker 3: Always.
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  Speaker 2: willing to take phone calls, just know that there is
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  Speaker 2: no call screener. You'll go right on hold, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: put you on as fast as we can. All right,
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  Speaker 2: so that's number one. Number two, that irked me to
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  Speaker 2: no end last week. You probably maybe didn't hear it,
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  Speaker 2: but I yelled and screamed at length about the fact
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  Speaker 2: that you guys, cops, now have to stay 250 feet
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  Speaker 2: away from a polling place, which is just, I mean... Greg,
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, what a punch in the stomach. Who
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  Speaker 2: thinks this is okay?
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  Speaker 13: Matt Blumenthal and May Flexer. So let me– well, let's
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  Speaker 13: actually say this. That was– so I'm going to take
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  Speaker 13: a few minutes on this, Lee. So that was House
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  Speaker 13: Bill 5001. House Bill 5001 is the House Democrats' top
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  Speaker 13: priority bill, just so we're clear. So SB1, Senate Bill 1,
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  Speaker 13: is the Senate Democrats' priority bill. House Bill 5001 is
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  Speaker 13: the House Democrats' priority bill.
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  Speaker 5: And if it was.
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  Speaker 13: Republicans in charge, they would be the Republicans' priority and
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  Speaker 13: so on and so forth. So that was their priority bill.
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  Speaker 13: Let's just be clear. That was their priority bill. And
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  Speaker 13: what it basically said was police officers on duty– there's
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  Speaker 13: two things here. Police officers on duty can only be
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  Speaker 13: within 250 feet of an election site if there is
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  Speaker 13: an imminent risk to life or property, they have permission
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  Speaker 13: from the Secretary of State or the moderator– or they
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  Speaker 13: could go in on their own to vote if they're
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  Speaker 13: an elector in that particular place. So I could vote
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  Speaker 13: on duty, so to speak, right? So your minor car
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  Speaker 13: accidents within 250 feet. And by the way, election sites
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  Speaker 13: where early voting is happening, your traditional polling places, anywhere
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  Speaker 13: there's a ballot box, any of that.
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  Speaker 5: Stuff, within 250 feet of that.
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  Speaker 13: You couldn't investigate a car crash unless there's an imminent
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  Speaker 13: risk to life. You got down in Stonington, we have
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  Speaker 13: people that live within 250 feet of Town Hall where
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  Speaker 13: there's a ballot box. somebody works second shift at EV,
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  Speaker 13: they come home and there's a, um, where house has
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  Speaker 13: been burglarized. A police officer going into process that scene
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  Speaker 13: has to go get permission from a moderator, you know,
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  Speaker 13: at midnight.
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  Speaker 5: It's absurd.
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  Speaker 13: So that was the first part. Second thing off duty.
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  Speaker 13: It actually said what police officers could and could not
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  Speaker 13: do off duty. And the first bill said you couldn't
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  Speaker 13: come within 250 feet unless you were passing through to
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  Speaker 13: go to somewhere else. So you could drive past it.
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  Speaker 13: But like, for example, um, Well, let's say here, I
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  Speaker 13: didn't measure, but let's just say Petronas is in the
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  Speaker 13: 250 feet of Town Hall.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it's not or whatever. But you couldn't do that off-duty.
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  Speaker 13: You couldn't go there for the entire time of early
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  Speaker 13: voting if that's early voting happening or that's where a
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  Speaker 13: ballot box is.
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  Speaker 5: My mother-in-law, she is in a budding property in.
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  Speaker 13: North Stolington to where one of their polling locations or
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  Speaker 13: their polling location. So during voting, I couldn't go to
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  Speaker 13: her house and visit or help her with a task
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  Speaker 13: or anything like that. It gets better. Here in Ledger,
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  Speaker 13: both of my towns that have police departments, Ledger and Stonington,
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  Speaker 13: was a real problem because the original bill that passed
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  Speaker 13: said that they couldn't be within 250 feet of an
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  Speaker 13: election site, period. On duty except for what I just
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  Speaker 13: told you, which meant the Ledger police officers couldn't go
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  Speaker 13: in their police station because it's right next door to
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  Speaker 13: town hall where the early voting is going on during
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  Speaker 13: early voting. In Stonington, early voting takes place in Stonington.
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  Speaker 13: the police station, in the community room. So they couldn't
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  Speaker 13: even use their own PD. So I debated this stuff
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  Speaker 13: on the floor. I fought about it and argued about it.
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  Speaker 13: And then I ran... We had another bill, and I
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  Speaker 13: ran an amendment to try to change this one to
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  Speaker 13: get to something reasonable, right? Because their stated intention was
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  Speaker 13: that they didn't want ICE near polling locations intimidating illegal
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  Speaker 13: aliens from voting, which is a mind-boggling proposition to begin with.
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  Speaker 3: Totally.
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  Speaker 13: But They wouldn't make it just to ICE because all
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  Speaker 13: I was trying to do– ICE is not my realm, right?
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 13: I'm trying to protect state and local law enforcement. And
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  Speaker 13: I said, well, make it just that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we can't do that.
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  Speaker 13: Well, you do that through the whole Trust Act, but fine.
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  Speaker 13: So then let's fine-tune it. So anyways, I run all
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  Speaker 13: these amendments. Well, then they run a follow-up bill. They
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  Speaker 13: call it the fix-it bill where they had all these changes.
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  Speaker 13: And they made the changes and said, okay, a police
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  Speaker 13: officer off-duty can be within 250 feet as long as
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  Speaker 13: he or she is at another location other than the
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  Speaker 13: election site. Well, if early voting is happening at town hall,
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  Speaker 13: that means that if you're a police officer off duty
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  Speaker 13: and you want to walk into your town hall to
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  Speaker 13: ask to file for a building permit maybe, apply for
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  Speaker 13: a building permit, ask a question about your tax bill,
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  Speaker 13: you've got to get permission from a moderator. Law-abiding, taxpaying
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  Speaker 13: citizen of this town has to get permission from the
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  Speaker 13: government to walk in his town hall to talk to people.
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  Speaker 13: Nobody else has to do that, but just based on
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  Speaker 13: his profession, right? That's what they did. So they made
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  Speaker 13: some minor fixes. So Ledger PD, Sony PD, guys and
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  Speaker 13: gals can show up to their offices. I can go
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  Speaker 13: to my mother-in-law's house for as long as it's necessary
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  Speaker 13: to be there.
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  Speaker 5: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 13: So I got an email. The Connecticut Police Chiefs Association,
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  Speaker 13: the legislative committee on the Connecticut Police Chiefs Association had watches.
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  Speaker 13: One of them emailed me back in July or called
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  Speaker 13: me back in July and said, hey, did that whole
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 13: thing pass? I remember you fighting about it. I said, yeah,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 13: let me explain to you what happened. I sent him
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 13: an email. We then speak about it. Then, collectively, he, them, myself,
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  Speaker 13: and Minority Leader Vinny Candelora, State Rep from North Brantford,
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  Speaker 13: implored the Secretary of State to do something. Because, by
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 13: the way, it's a Class C felony. We're not joking
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 13: around here. This isn't like, oh, you could get sued
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 13: or you get warned about. It's a Class C felony.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 13: And let's not forget, we have an inspector general in
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 13: this state right now who this doesn't wouldn't fall into
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 13: his statutory call. But he doesn't seem to care about that.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 13: He's mission creeping left and right. And he is hell
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 13: bent on arresting as many cops as possible. So there's
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  Speaker 13: a real concern that police officers have with this whole
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 13: thing in Connecticut. So we went to the secretary of
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  Speaker 13: state's office. The police chiefs met with secretary of state's office.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 13: I spoke with Stephanie Thomas twice on the phone. And finally,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 13: last week. And not to pat myself on the back
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  Speaker 13: here because I don't come on your show to do that,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 13: but it's important for people to understand. This was not
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  Speaker 13: an unforeseen circumstance. I told them this was going to happen.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 13: We ran amendments about it. And, in fact, last week
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  Speaker 13: I was quoted in the Hartford Courant saying all they
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 13: had to do was say that if that was their
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 13: stated intention and that was truly– if they didn't really
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 13: want to interfere with state and local cops in Connecticut, which,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 13: by the way, I don't believe them at all, but
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 13: if that's what they're trying to say– All they would
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 13: have had to do is say, all right, fine. Police
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  Speaker 13: officers cannot be within 250 feet of an election site
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 13: except when they're conducting official business not relevant to elections
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 13: themselves unless requested by the moderator for that purpose. That's it.
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  Speaker 13: So you leave the off-duty stuff alone because when we're off-duty,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 13: we're citizens like everybody else, okay? And you achieve your
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 13: stated now, stated purpose. Of course, I know what their
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 13: stated purpose was, was to make this ambiguous and troubling.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 13: Matt Blumenthal is then quoted in the same article saying, well,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 13: that's too ambiguous. Well, Stephanie Thomas, the Secretary of State,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 13: kudos to Stephanie Thomas. I have no problem saying it.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 13: Not that she does everything right. She's got another problem
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 13: going on, but kudos to her. She put out a directive.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 13: That article came out in the morning. That night, she
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 13: put out a directive basically saying that because of statute,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 13: the bill that passed gave her authority to grant these permissions.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 13: She granted a blanket permission to every law enforcement officer
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 13: in the state to be within 250 feet of a
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 13: site as necessary for them to do their job and
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 13: off duty to complete any task they need to. Common sense.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: As necessary, though.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. In other words, you can't just a little loitering around.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 13: Well, listen, I agree with you.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 5: But at least we can.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Have you have you ever. No, no, no, no. You're
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: not going to. You know, you don't know.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Have you ever gotten into a situation with the bill
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: that is so ridiculous like this one to me? It's
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: so absurdly ridiculous that you just said, you know what?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Let's not fight it. Let's let it pass to prove
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: a point. You know what I'm saying? This is so stupid.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's voice our opposition, but then just
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: that's it. Don't put an amendment to it. Let it
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: go ahead and go.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, so there's a lot of Republicans in my caucus
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 13: that feel that way, and I have felt that way
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 13: at times. But I always come back to this. Two things. One,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 13: it's not going to work as well as you think
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 13: it is because they control the media, and They control
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 13: the narrative. They know that nobody's going to actually read
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 13: these bills, and they lie about what's in it. They're
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 13: going to lie about it. Like Gary Winfield's quote, well,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 13: no cop's going to get arrested for a C felony.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: How do you know that, Gary? Just because you said so.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: So that's first. And second thing is, Lee, look.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I always say this.
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  Speaker 13: It's people above politics. So doing that would be a
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 13: political move, and I try to do things on policy.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 13: I try to do things for people and try to
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 13: do things the right way. So that's why I always
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 13: come back to– because Republicans– and I'm not saying they're wrong,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 13: but they say, well, you're always over there trying to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 13: make a bad bill better. Yes, but I still don't
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 13: vote for it because it's still a bad bill, but
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 13: I work my hardest to make it as least bad
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 13: as possible.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: So you had mentioned Stephanie Thomas has another issue going on,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: and I'm assuming you're talking about how– She lied to
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: everybody about the person voting.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Right. And I'm getting death threats. Is that is that
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: the other?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 13: No, I don't know a lot about that one. But
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 13: she's she's been called before the legislature for public hearing,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 13: infringement hearing, because she followed up to primaries.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: OK, all right. So let me ask you about the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: one I'm referring to.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: So there is a report that, you know, there was
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: a person who was arrested who was supposedly.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: An illegal alien. And they had voted in the past, right?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: So that was the report. You remember that story or no?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 13: Is this the one that killed the cop?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: So that person was supposedly a registered voter. And then
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: they said that she was getting death threats or what
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: have you. And none of that apparently was true, according
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: to the police department. She said she never got death threats.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: She was just getting harassed by the media. I don't
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: know if that's not what you heard. You know that story?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 13: So I haven't. I read a lot about that.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: That's okay.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 13: I know that there was an illegal alien that killed
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 13: a police officer.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 13: And I know that there was, you know, there's a
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 13: concern that, listen, if we were doing things the right way,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 13: that guy and his girlfriend would still be alive.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 13: And the fact that that's not a media hype, you know,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 13: I mean, George Floyd was killed by a police officer
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 13: who was acting, you know, in violation of law. He
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 13: was found guilty. Right. And it became national news. But
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 13: you have a police officer that's killed because somebody is
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 13: here illegally and nobody wants– Nobody seems to care. Because, again,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 13: you're in Connecticut. Police officers are an expendable people, and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 13: it's frustrating.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: It is frustrating.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: One other thing, Doug Dubitsky, state representative, who was already
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: mentioned here in this conversation, says if cops can't go
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: near the polling place and law-abiding citizens cannot carry firearms
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: in a polling place, who can timely react to force
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: against a shooter in a polling place?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 13: Yeah, good question.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: So let me ask– so right now– A police officer
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: doing his normal job can go within the 250 feet.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 13: Because the Secretary of State has granted that permission, which
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 13: the statute gives her the authority to do.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Now, can they go back in session when it comes
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: back in? And fix this bill? Well, not only fix it,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: but box her out. Well, yeah.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: They could do that.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, I hope they're not listening. Yeah, they could.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Let me see. I want to ask you about flock.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: There's flock now going in Groton. They're just warning people
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: about flock in Groton. 30 days now, flock cameras are everywhere.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: I know you kind of are more lax, and you
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: don't mind flock as much as the next guy.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 13: Well, because I know the reality of what flock is
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 13: and what flock isn't. So I've had conversations with some legislators,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 13: and they start telling me things that flock doesn't work
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 13: that way.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, I use flock. I know exactly what it
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: does and what it doesn't do. And listen. you don't meet, man.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 13: I believe in the constitution and limited government, but I
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 13: also think that it's not that government can't do anything.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: It's that we need to control what government does.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 13: So I guess the parts that I don't understand is
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 13: there's two parts of it. Like, so a lot of
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 13: people say, well, they're a private company and they have
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 13: all this information. Well, so is Apple and Android and
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 13: they're your cell phone companies. And believe me, they have far, far,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 13: far more information about you than flock will ever have.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: But let me just ask you one question. I'm just
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: going to play devil's advocate. So, um, I carry this,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: but it's my choice to carry it. You're looking at me.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: It's not my choice. What have I done wrong for
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: you to take video cameras and videotape me?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 13: Well, hold on a second. So who forced you to
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 13: drive down the road?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I have to go to work.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: I have to go to work, don't I?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 13: Because that's one argument that people say, and you could
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 13: turn certain things off on your phone. Let me tell
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 13: you something. I've done several search warrants on phones.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: It is incredible.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 13: The amount of information that is available on there. And
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 13: if you have a cell phone and you do something wrong,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 13: throw that thing in the salt water in the ocean quick.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 13: But that's first. Second, we've had E-ZPass forever.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Forever.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 13: Do you think E-ZPass doesn't take pictures of your license
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 13: plate and drive by?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I don't have E-ZPass.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 13: Okay, but you drive past them. You drive past these
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 13: automated tolls. They're taking pictures of your license plate as
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 13: you drive by.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not happy with that either.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 13: Okay, but why have you not been yelling about that?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 13: And the answer to the question– Well, I'll tell you why.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 13: Because social media didn't tell you to.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Go.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: No, because now it's seemingly they're everywhere. I don't want–
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: do you want a video police state like they have
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: in China or other places?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 13: So this video police state, tell me what a flock
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 13: camera does because I.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Want to know.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: Well, no.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: From what I understand, it takes– Pictures of license plates
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: and records where certain cars have gone, doesn't it?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 13: It takes pictures of license plates of cars that are
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 13: passing by a fixed location. Sometimes they're in cars as
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 13: police officers move around, but they take pictures of your
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 13: car going by. So what expectation of privacy do you
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 13: think somebody has on a public road?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: On a public road? I mean, I don't know. I
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: don't have an answer for that.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: Zero.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 13: The answer is none. When you're on the public road,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 13: everybody can see you. You don't have an expectation of
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 13: privacy there. So Flock is a technology that's very valuable.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 13: Let me give you an example. Let's say there's a
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 13: Flock camera out in front of here, and somebody walks
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 13: into Ledger Town Hall. And they armed robbery and they
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 13: take off. And a witness comes in and says, yeah,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 13: I saw the.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: Guy run out.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 13: He's in a black pickup truck.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 13: You could go to that flock camera and say, show
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 13: me the black pickup trucks that you'll buy.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: And boom, you get a plate.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 13: So there is value.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 13: So the question is, how do we balance the public
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 13: safety value against the rights?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 13: Like we do with everything else. Like we do with
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 13: the seven exceptions to the search warrant that the Supreme
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 13: Court has long held up.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: Right. Right.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 13: You go all the way back to the prohibition, the
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 13: Carroll v. United States or U.S. v. Carroll, where they
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 13: got an exception that you can search a car without
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 13: a warrant because it's mobile. So it's on the legislature
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 13: to control these things and say, listen, it's a valuable
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 13: tool for public safety. However, we don't want a police state.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 13: We don't want a surveillance state. So collecting the data
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 13: that nobody sees is one thing, but. If the government's
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 13: going to use it, it has to use it in
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 13: a narrow set of circumstances. And that's what we did.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 13: We did that in Connecticut already.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we've got to go because I'm out of time.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: But let's talk about this again for sure next time
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: when we have more time to do it.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Greg Howard, state representative. Thank you, brother. We've got to go.
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  Speaker 1: Ben Proto next.
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  Speaker 7: Pelosi's diplomatic efforts are ongoing to reopen the Strait of Hormuz,
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  Speaker 15: Iran's Supreme National Security Council issued a statement calling on
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  Speaker 15: Iran for damages before the Strait would reopen. Iran's foreign
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  Speaker 15: President Trump told Axios on Sunday, quote, we are low-keen.
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  Speaker 8: Americans have to hold in several primaries tomorrow, including Minnesota,
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  Speaker 5: Francesca Hong is making a final.
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  Speaker 11: What started as a family dream has grown into Joshua's
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  Speaker 11: Worldwide Transportation.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Gary McKeon, CEO.
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  Speaker 11: Today, Joshua's Worldwide offers professional chauffeurs in a fleet of sedans, SUVs, limousines,
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  Speaker 11: party buses, and luxury coaches.
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  Speaker 17: And aloha, Gary. I'm Stephanie McKeon at Joshua's Worldwide. We
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  Speaker 17: believe travel should be stress-free. That's why we do more
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  Speaker 17: than just drive. From flights to hotels and excursions, we
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  Speaker 17: can manage your entire trip.
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  Speaker 8: From weddings and nights out to corporate travel and airport runs,
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  Speaker 8: Joshua's Worldwide delivers service that goes beyond the ride.
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  Speaker 12: After 30 years, we're still family-owned, still growing, and still
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  Speaker 12: dedicated to every traveler we serve.
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  Speaker 17: Because when you ride with Joshua's Worldwide, you're a part
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  Speaker 14: Good morning, I'm Rob Ray.
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  Speaker 4: AC sun, less humid today, high 87. A vehicle drove
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  Speaker 4: into the water on Atlantic Avenue in Groton Longpoint late
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  Speaker 4: Saturday evening. All occupants escaped the vehicle with minor injuries reported.
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  Speaker 4: The Groton Longpoint Police Department is investigating. A 64-year-old man
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  Speaker 4: was found dead in the woods off Paper Mill Road
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  Speaker 4: in Colchester after his vehicle was found unattended nearby. Multiple
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  Speaker 4: agencies searched the area before locating him. The investigation is ongoing.
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  Speaker 4: A 39-year-old Uncasville man was killed after being struck by a.