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Panthers fire Matt Rhule, Injury News Around the League, & Deshaun Watson Returns to Browns facility · NFL Now

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Speaker 1: Other times I believe ms. He goes a little, be
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Speaker 1: fun to go. The Eagles are still undefeated. The Texans
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Speaker 1: have finally won a game. Brian day Ball this coach
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Speaker 1: of the year, at least the leader in the clubhouse.
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Speaker 1: We have plenty of injuries, we have plenty of movement.
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Speaker 1: We had a wild week five seemingly, as we always
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Speaker 1: say here on a Monday morning on NFL Network. My
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Speaker 1: name is Andrews Sicilian know this year is Steve White.
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Speaker 1: We also have our first coaching firing of the scene.
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Speaker 1: Yeah came quick, but also goes to show you there's
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Speaker 1: absolutely some things going on the scenes in Carolina exactly,
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Speaker 1: and the Panthers have only one win, and not surprisingly
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Speaker 1: after falling to the forty Niners yesterday, Steve, they have
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Speaker 1: fired head coach Matt Rule one and four this year.
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Speaker 1: Matt Rule is done five and twelve, last year five
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Speaker 1: and eleven, in twenty and eleven and twenty seven overall,
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Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, who had one year with Josh Rosen in
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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen as his quarterback in Arizona as head coach
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Speaker 1: one and done there is taking over at least for
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Speaker 1: the rest of the season to Rappaport. Tom Peliser are
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Speaker 1: insiders on this one. We kind of sort of, kind
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Speaker 1: of sort of rather Ian saw this one coming, especially
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Speaker 1: considering the way things fell apart yesterday and the fact
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Speaker 1: that those stands were empty in Charlotte by the time
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Speaker 1: Brock pretty not Jimmy Garoppolo was in there to take him,
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Speaker 1: and those factors you mentioned, Andrew were significant. From what
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Speaker 1: I understand, David Tepper, the Carolina Panther's owner, wanted to
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Speaker 1: be patient, just like he was patient with Ron Rivera
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Speaker 1: when he took over, Just like he allowed Matt Rule
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Speaker 1: to have a third year, wanted to be patient, wanted
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Speaker 1: this to succeed. The only caveat, and I would say
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Speaker 1: there are probably two caveats, is one when the locker
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Speaker 1: room stopped believing in Matt Rule. Uh that and you
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Speaker 1: know when you look out on the field the second
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Speaker 1: half and the pretty ugly loss against the San Francisco
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Speaker 1: forty niners, the effort wasn't great. Uh, the way they
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Speaker 1: were playing wasn't great. It wasn't what owner David Tepper
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Speaker 1: wanted to see. And when that happened, then you started
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Speaker 1: a thing, all right, maybe a change would be necessary
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Speaker 1: rather than just something you would consider. And then you know,
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Speaker 1: is there an embarrassment? And yesterday's lost you mentioned it,
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Speaker 1: with fans leaving and with the etherly product down the
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Speaker 1: field was certainly embarrassing. All of that spelled the end
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Speaker 1: for Matt Rule's tenure. And Tom, if you think about it,
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Speaker 1: you know there's certainly been challenges to what Matt Rule.
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Speaker 1: Came in and took over several different quarterbacks the team
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Speaker 1: in transition, but at year three, by this point you
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Speaker 1: would hope that it would look better than it did.
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Speaker 1: And so Matt Rule fired earlier today, and he and
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Speaker 1: David Tepper wanted to show that Matt Rule would have
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Speaker 1: the time it took to exact that cultural overhaul that
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Speaker 1: he was brought in to do. That's why he got
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Speaker 1: a seven year contract out of the gate. They wanted
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Speaker 1: him to have the runway in order to build this
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Speaker 1: thing the right way. But really it came down as
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Speaker 1: much as anything to the Panthers could not score, and
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Speaker 1: it didn't matter who is it quarterback, whether it was
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield or Sam Donald or Cam Newton when he
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Speaker 1: came back, or Teddy Bridgewater. It didn't remember matter who
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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator was, Joe Brady. You have Nixon finished
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Speaker 1: out allow past year on an interim basis. Then they
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Speaker 1: brought in Ben McAdoo. In games where the opponent scores
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Speaker 1: at least seventeen points, Matt Rules record was one in
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Speaker 1: twenty seven, including consecutive losses. When you're an owner like
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Speaker 1: David Temper, and you see in essence, the same game
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Speaker 1: happening every single week, and once the opponent gets the
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Speaker 1: seventeen points, you know you've got virtually no chance to
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Speaker 1: catch up. That is a really difficult thing to get over.
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Speaker 1: The Panthers did make runs at fixing the quarterback position.
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Speaker 1: They made a big offer for Matthew Stafford last offseason.
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Speaker 1: They made several pushes to try to bring in Deshaun
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Speaker 1: Watson ended up getting Baker Mayfield on the cheap here,
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Speaker 1: but he hasn't played particularly well through the course of
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Speaker 1: this season. They still aren't scoring any points. Andrew I
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Speaker 1: would absolutely anticipate that those issues are going to shape
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Speaker 1: David Tepper's vision. He could say, audition here for twelve
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Speaker 1: games with Steve Wilkes, who has a defensive background, because
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Speaker 1: he's only for the new permanent head coach. Finding someone
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Speaker 1: who's got a plan to fix the at offense and
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Speaker 1: fixed the quarterback position. It's gonna be a core part
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Speaker 1: of it, which they have taken a swing every single
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Speaker 1: offseason money on Teddy Bridgewater and then Cam and then
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Speaker 1: darn Old and then Baker and then Ian real quick
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Speaker 1: here before we move on, you just tweeted moments ago
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Speaker 1: Baker high ankle sprain. So p J. Walker it looks
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Speaker 1: like against the Rams this week and Steve Wilkes first game, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: through Baker Mayfield X rays were negative. He discoversults back
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Speaker 1: from the m R and when I understand they showed
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Speaker 1: a high ankle sprain. Gonna have more tests in the
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Speaker 1: coming days. So how long he is gonna be out?
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Speaker 1: Is it gonna become clear? But yes, expected to be
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Speaker 1: p J. Walker now at quarterback for the Carolina Panthers
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Speaker 1: at the very least against the ram And more injury
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Speaker 1: news Tom including another Bosa going down. We have Joey
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Speaker 1: who's out on I R here in l A with
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Speaker 1: the Chargers, and now Nick has a groin injury with
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Speaker 1: the forty Niners Andrew. It certainly sounds like the forty
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Speaker 1: Niners are optimistic that Nick is going to be in
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Speaker 1: better shape than Joey here. Kyle Shanahanda's scribed it after
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Speaker 1: the game as growing tightness for Nick Bosa, who was
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Speaker 1: seen on the sideline trying to get stretched out athletic
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Speaker 1: trainers working on one of his legs. Just wasn't able
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Speaker 1: to get back into the game, and you can see
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Speaker 1: him right there on the sideline with his out his helmet,
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Speaker 1: plainly frustrated. This is one of the most impactful players
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Speaker 1: on a defense that right now is playing like one
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Speaker 1: of the best in the NFL. So that is certainly
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Speaker 1: one to keep an eye on for and I has
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Speaker 1: already lost another important part of that defense cornerback and
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Speaker 1: Manual Mosley tore his a c L. He is done
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Speaker 1: for the season, So a question upfront. And also some
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Speaker 1: shuffling now inevitable on the back end for San Francisco
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Speaker 1: as well. And with Jimmy Ward coming back and breaking
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Speaker 1: a hand as well, Jason Barrette could be coming back
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Speaker 1: for the Niners. Also right around the corner, they're going
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Speaker 1: to go to West Virginia. They have another East Coast
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Speaker 1: game next week. They've done this the last couple of years.
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Speaker 1: They are not heading home. And take me through what
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Speaker 1: happened with Teddy Bridgewater yesterday, because for those who don't know,
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Speaker 1: they finally agreed the union in the league on the
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Speaker 1: new concussion protocol alls in advance of Sunday's games. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: all of this from the to a tongue by lower
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Speaker 1: situation over a couple of weeks in his concussion diagnosis
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Speaker 1: here Teddy Bridgewater, and we are going to error on
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Speaker 1: the side of caution. Teddy Bridgewater was taken from that
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Speaker 1: game against the Jets after one play. Yeah, and it
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Speaker 1: was after he fell back in the end zone and
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Speaker 1: hit his head and was placed in the NFL's concussion Protocol.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why was not because he failed the
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Speaker 1: concussion tests. In fact, my understanding is he passed the
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Speaker 1: concussion tests in the locker room by various doctors, as
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Speaker 1: is based on the concussion Protocol. What the spotter believed
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Speaker 1: he saw was that Bridgewater experience a taxia, which is
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Speaker 1: a word that has existed for a very long time,
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Speaker 1: but it just entered the NFL community on Saturday when
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Speaker 1: it became part of the no go rules in the
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Speaker 1: new Concussion Protocol. In other words, if a player shows it,
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Speaker 1: if if it seems that a player is experiencing some
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Speaker 1: sort of motor dis function, then he can be taken
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Speaker 1: immediately off the field, regardless of I would say a doctor,
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Speaker 1: a team doctor, or a U n C ruling it.
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Speaker 1: That is what was determined in the Teddy Bridgewater situation.
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Speaker 1: So he is in the NFL's concussion Protocol now officially
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Speaker 1: and must go through all the steps in order to
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Speaker 1: get cleared going forward. And he and that is an
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Speaker 1: important distinction here because even though the Dolphins say that
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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater passed all the traditional concussion tests, he is
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Speaker 1: now treated because he exhibited those symptoms that were spotted
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Speaker 1: by the a t C spot or he has treated
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Speaker 1: like any other player who suffers a concussion, and it
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Speaker 1: can be a series of steps here, including being cleared
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Speaker 1: by the independent neurologist before he is permitted to get
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Speaker 1: back onto the field. This also raises something else that
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Speaker 1: we're going to see the rest of this season, which
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Speaker 1: is you're going to have situations where players do not
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Speaker 1: have concussions and nonetheless are pulled off of the field.
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Speaker 1: That is something that Dr Allen Sells, the NFL's chief
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Speaker 1: medical officer, said that the league and union are willing
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Speaker 1: to accept in other words, and I'm paraphrase and Sills here,
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Speaker 1: they would rather be pulling players off the field who
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Speaker 1: don't have concussions and leave a player on the field
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Speaker 1: with the concussion that they were unable to diagnose. I
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Speaker 1: would also guarantee you they are going to be situations
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Speaker 1: for the course of the season where the players who
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Speaker 1: are pulled off the field are going to express some frustration.
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Speaker 1: But again, that is where we are at as a league.
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Speaker 1: That is what the union wanted to push for. They
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Speaker 1: don't want to have another situation like what they had
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Speaker 1: with to a tongue of Valoa, even though everyone involves
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Speaker 1: insists he did not have a concussion. And so you're
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Speaker 1: going to have more situations like what we saw yesterday
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Speaker 1: with Teddy Bridgewater in the league and union hope that's
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Speaker 1: for the betterment of the league going forward. And it
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Speaker 1: just so happened that the first situation in which we
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Speaker 1: see this is with the Dolphins and undrafted rookie Skyler
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Speaker 1: Thompson came into quarterback made some plays to his credit
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Speaker 1: kit at of Kansas State. It was still a two
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Speaker 1: point game of the fourth quarter, Dolphins were definitely in
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Speaker 1: a raheem most our best game as a Dolphin. In
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Speaker 1: the end of the Jets pull away and put forty
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Speaker 1: on the board, and now the Dolphins hopefully get Teddy
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Speaker 1: bridge Border back at one point. Let's get to the
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Speaker 1: Browns here, tom. They had another heartbreaking loss, another game
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Speaker 1: in which Jacobe Priced plays reasonably well but then throws
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Speaker 1: a big pick late in the game. They still had
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Speaker 1: a chance to win somehow because of a Brandon Stay
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Speaker 1: fourth now decision. But today is different because today Deshaun
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Speaker 1: Watson is let back in the building tell us what
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Speaker 1: he can and can't do ander. Deshaun Watson is able
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Speaker 1: to do practically everything his teammates are doing, except practice,
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Speaker 1: player even attend the games. He is allowed to be
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Speaker 1: in the building as you mentioned, starting today, and is
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Speaker 1: in fact in the building. He can meet individually with
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Speaker 1: the head coach, the offensive coordinator, and the quarterbacks coach.
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Speaker 1: He can do rehab and treatment, he can do individual workouts,
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Speaker 1: he can meet with the non football people within the building,
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Speaker 1: but again cannot practice. That's not going to start until
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Speaker 1: November four, and cannot play until December four against his
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Speaker 1: old team, the Texans at Houston. Now Deshaun Watson, of course,
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Speaker 1: suspended eleven games amids serious allegations of sexual misconduct. That
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Speaker 1: is something that is played out through the core process
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Speaker 1: as well as through the NFL process. As part of
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Speaker 1: the settlement on that eleven game suspension, he was required
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Speaker 1: to undergo an evaluation by clinician jointly selected by the
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Speaker 1: NFL and nfl p A. That has happened. The Shawn
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Speaker 1: Watson is in regular mandatory counseling, and that is something
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Speaker 1: that he has to keep up with throughout the terms
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Speaker 1: here of his suspension. And alright, he is not yet
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Speaker 1: ready obviously to come back to a team, a team
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Speaker 1: that that he and even with Miles Garrett and Jadaveon
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Speaker 1: Clowney back could not stop the run. Chargers came into
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Speaker 1: yesterday the best rushing team, rather the worst rushing team
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Speaker 1: in football, and gashed him for nearly three yards. And
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Speaker 1: then immediately after the game, the Browns made a trade.
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Speaker 1: And this is a trade that had been in the
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Speaker 1: works for really the last several days, but was finalized
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Speaker 1: last night. Dion Jones, the former All former Pro bowler
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Speaker 1: for the Atlanta Faco who had been one of the
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Speaker 1: better linebackers in the NFL for some time. It is
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Speaker 1: currently on injured reserve dealing with they shoulder or injury,
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Speaker 1: has been traded to the Cleveland Browns. It is a
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Speaker 1: late round pick swap in the draft, and for Dion Jones,
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Speaker 1: who's only said to make the minimum this year, mainly
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Speaker 1: because the Falcons restructured his contract, it is essentially a
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Speaker 1: rental for the Browns this year. Hope to get some
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Speaker 1: defensive help and for the Falcons just another chance to
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Speaker 1: move on from a really really bad contract. For that
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Speaker 1: regime that has had to do this just too many times.
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan to Indy Dion Jones to Cleveland Anthony Walker.
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Speaker 1: Remember on T and F a couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: uh torn quad out for the year, linebacker for the Browns.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Ian, Thank you Tom. Gentlemen, We continue at
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Speaker 1: a NFL now with some focus on the Philadelphia Eagles
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Speaker 1: as well. They deserved. They are four no heading into
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Speaker 1: Arizona yesterday to face Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals.
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Speaker 1: They're five and oh by now if you haven't figured
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Speaker 1: it out. They got out to the early lead. They
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Speaker 1: lead the league and rushing touchdowns. Miles Sanders had wood earlier.
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurds hadwood here, it's fourteen. Did nothing. The Cardinals
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Speaker 1: starts slowly. You've heard this story before, but in the end,
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Speaker 1: it came down to matt Ammon Dola. Matt Amndola, Texan
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Speaker 1: and chief in the last two months, missing wide right
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Speaker 1: from forty three yards could have sent it to overtime instead. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: Cliff Nick Serriani. Jayalen hurts the Eagles. They're finding out
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Speaker 1: speech that's fine. Three with the fine, just fine. That
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Speaker 1: whole groups a bunch of warriors. That's sixty two is
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Speaker 1: a warrior. Yeah, he laid it on the line. He
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Speaker 1: laid it on the line for you guys. He was
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Speaker 1: hard and hard, and he came on. He came out
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Speaker 1: and kept playing for you guys. And I know a
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Speaker 1: lot of you guys did that. I'm freaking proud of you. Guys. Hey,
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Speaker 1: I got one more thing. I talked enough. I talked
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Speaker 1: off all week, right, I talked on Monday, I talked
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I talked on Saturday. I talked on Saturday night.
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Speaker 1: So you're not gonna hear me tomorrow because I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you what day. End of the game to try to
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Speaker 1: go to six and oh with the Cowboys, Dick Serrianti,
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Speaker 1: they're referring to number sixty two. That's Jason Kelsey, their center,
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Speaker 1: who left the game with an injury, came back, finished
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Speaker 1: the game. A game in which High There White, High There,
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Speaker 1: Mark Ross, a game in which Mark the Eagles remained
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Speaker 1: the only undefeated team of the NFL. First time we
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Speaker 1: can say that we continue with that since two thousand
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Speaker 1: and four. What did you see with your former team? Yes,
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Speaker 1: a long time ago former team, but the Eagles resiliency
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Speaker 1: and versatility is what impresses me the most. Yes, they're
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Speaker 1: five and oh, but they really have one in all
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Speaker 1: kinds of different ways. Of course, we know they're prolific
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Speaker 1: in the second quarter, but they've shown they can get
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Speaker 1: in shootouts with Detroit and score a lot of points
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Speaker 1: and hold off. They've shown their defense can dominate a
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Speaker 1: Washington team and the Minnesota team. They've shown their offense
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Speaker 1: can be prolific and come back when they're down against Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: And then yesterday they showed that they can just run
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Speaker 1: the ball, Jalen Hurst, make timely plays, the defense hold
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Speaker 1: tight in a grinded out sort of game. So they're
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Speaker 1: winning in all sorts of different ways, with different players
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Speaker 1: stepping up at different times. And that's what makes this
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Speaker 1: team so good. It's not just relying on one aspect
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Speaker 1: of their team or one aspect of their offense. Is
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Speaker 1: that they've shown the ability to win in different ways.
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Speaker 1: And to me, that's really the sign of good and
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Speaker 1: great and super Bowl caliber caliber teams. Uh. And you
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Speaker 1: can put their style up against anybody and they kind
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Speaker 1: of have an answer and how do you defend or
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Speaker 1: how do you stop them? Because they can beat you
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Speaker 1: in so many different ways. Steve so I was high
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Speaker 1: on the Eagles coming into the season was my Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl pick, and I'm just sticking with that, especially when
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Speaker 1: you look at the landscape of the season in the schedule. Okay,
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Speaker 1: all right, Mark, I see feeling yourself a little bit
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Speaker 1: right now, But look, this is situation and you nailed
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Speaker 1: a couple of points here. The fact that they're versatile
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Speaker 1: can win different ways, right. We see teams that are
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Speaker 1: success will be able to do this. This is a
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Speaker 1: grind it out game, as it it earlier. If there
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Speaker 1: was a time when the Eagle is gonna get caught slipping,
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Speaker 1: it was this game. They knew they had to play
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Speaker 1: in Arizona, a team that's been up and down. They've
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Speaker 1: got Dallas coming in next week, a red hot Dallas team.
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Speaker 1: So this is the one they can take the eye
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Speaker 1: off the prize. But defensively they make plays. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you talked about some of the different ways they can
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Speaker 1: play on offense, but defensively to this is a high
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Speaker 1: takeaway team, right. This is a team that you see
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Speaker 1: right there another pick. The fact that they're doing the takeaways,
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Speaker 1: the fact that they can pressure the quarterback, the fact
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Speaker 1: that they can stop those are all very good signs.
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Speaker 1: So now that they can dig into a whole different
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Speaker 1: vat of ways to win ball game. That's gonna play
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Speaker 1: out well for them, especially in an NFC East dare
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Speaker 1: I say it is the best division in football right now.
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Speaker 1: So again, Jalen Hurts, the leadership, They've shown the confidence
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Speaker 1: they have in those themselves. You're Nick Sirianni talking about
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Speaker 1: Kelsey toughing it out. They've got something special going right there.
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Speaker 1: So they've got to carry it on and this game
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Speaker 1: against Dallas, I mean, this is going to be a
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Speaker 1: very good game. But I think this defense can put
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Speaker 1: it on Cooper Rush. We keep talk talking about the
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Speaker 1: quarterback win thing with Cooper Rush. The defense can continue
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Speaker 1: to play the way that it's playing, especially with the takeaways.
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Speaker 1: It is going to be a very very very good
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Speaker 1: game this weekend. Yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a great game. A lot of a lot of excitement there.
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Speaker 1: You know, being up growing up in Philly, we hated Dallas.
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Speaker 1: Man at phillip fans here we got anything more they
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Speaker 1: hate Dallas. So man, this this is going I might
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Speaker 1: have to just go down and check that one out.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a weekend of it. You've got Philly's
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Speaker 1: braves and lds Friday, at least potentially Saturday as well.
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Speaker 1: See Steve's a Cardinal fan. Yeah, it was bad that
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Speaker 1: the Phillies meet the Cardinals. I don't I don't even
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Speaker 1: follow baseball. Did that happen? Wow? Did you? Did you
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Speaker 1: see what happened? And himself right now herts apologized by
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Speaker 1: the way for not do a touchdown on that final drive.
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Speaker 1: Tift Field book coming up next, trying to make sense
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Speaker 1: of that roughing the passer call in Tampa. We have
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Speaker 1: the rule book. We'll read it to you. All right.
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady hasn't lost three consecutive starts. You'd like the
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Speaker 1: quarterback win stat in twenty years. It's been three hundred
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Speaker 1: regular season games. He's also never lost to the Falcons.
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Speaker 1: Had to big early lead, allow myself to hold up
18:20
Speaker 1: a fathead of myself, Leonard four net and they're up
18:23
Speaker 1: twenty one to nothing. But all of a sudden, the
18:24
Speaker 1: Falcons come back. They're about to get Grady off the field.
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Speaker 1: They do Brady jared a sack and the Falcons are
18:30
Speaker 1: getting the ball back. Wait, wait, your own burger called
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Speaker 1: roughing the pastor. That's fifteen yards, Arthur Smith, my bucks Wine,
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Speaker 1: but one sack. At the end of the game, they
18:46
Speaker 1: called him for roughing the passer. Um, you know so
18:49
Speaker 1: extends to driving. You're able to go off the field.
18:51
Speaker 1: What did you think of that play? Had you been
18:54
Speaker 1: lobbying or asking for some late hits there? I don't
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Speaker 1: throw the flags, he does not throw the flags. We'll
19:03
Speaker 1: throw it to some social media reaction us from future
19:05
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Julius Peppers, I just saw the Tom
19:08
Speaker 1: Brady call. All Boger had to do was just come
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Speaker 1: out and say my fault. I missed the call and
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Speaker 1: you have to respect it. Any other explanation is unacceptable.
19:16
Speaker 1: Dwight Freeny may one day find himself with a gold
19:19
Speaker 1: jacket as well. He said, could somebody explain to me
19:21
Speaker 1: or the football fan base any other way to tackle Brady?
19:24
Speaker 1: And I think that's the key question here in that situation,
19:27
Speaker 1: maybe we should just go back to the playground days
19:30
Speaker 1: and to and touch it. Peppers and Freedy combined for
19:33
Speaker 1: two five career sacks. Just so you know, in some
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Speaker 1: context here it is rule twelve Steve Article eleven paragraph
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Speaker 1: beat when tackling a pastor. This is from the rule book,
19:42
Speaker 1: who's in a defenseless position, the defensive player must not unnecessarily,
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Speaker 1: which is what Jerome Boger said after the game of
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Speaker 1: the full report, or violently throw him down or land
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Speaker 1: on top of him with all or most of the
19:56
Speaker 1: defenders weight. Unnecessarily is the key word here, because that
20:02
Speaker 1: is what Jerome Boger said after the game. He d
20:05
Speaker 1: that the motion Grady Jarrett made to take Brady to
20:08
Speaker 1: the ground was unnecessary. We could debate the unnecessary part
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Speaker 1: of it, but Boger used language from the rule book
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Speaker 1: in his explanation afterwards. Sarah Walsh, you're at that game.
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Speaker 1: What was everyone else saying? Well, first of all, I'd
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Speaker 1: like to give some credit to Grady Jarrett and Arthur
20:30
Speaker 1: Smith because the way they handled it. If that happened
20:34
Speaker 1: against the Buccaneers and Bruce Arians was on the sideline,
20:37
Speaker 1: what do you think would have happened next? The next
20:38
Speaker 1: tackle in that game would have been made by Bruce Arians.
20:41
Speaker 1: He would have completely lost it. So I thought those
20:44
Speaker 1: guys really handled it well. I can tell you from
20:46
Speaker 1: the Bucks side of things. In the locker room afterwards,
20:50
Speaker 1: Look you saw Tom Brady didn't want to touch, you said,
20:52
Speaker 1: I don't throw the flags. Mike Evans was asked, Hey,
20:55
Speaker 1: are you happy about the way that this league is
20:56
Speaker 1: protecting quarterbacks? And he knew what they were getting at,
20:59
Speaker 1: and he kind of long paused and said, yeah, sure,
21:02
Speaker 1: I'm happy about it today. I thought, Rakim Nunia Roaches,
21:05
Speaker 1: who's the defensive tackle for the Buccaneers known as Nacho
21:07
Speaker 1: down here, I thought he said it very well. He said, look,
21:11
Speaker 1: it helped us today, there's no question. But as a
21:14
Speaker 1: defensive guy, we're not out here trying to brutally hurt people.
21:17
Speaker 1: And he said it's making defenses softer. And he said, well, yeah,
21:21
Speaker 1: they can be happy that that call went their way yesterday.
21:23
Speaker 1: He said, if it's me in that position and I
21:25
Speaker 1: do something like that, you're not thinking you're hurting anybody.
21:28
Speaker 1: You're not thinking you're hurting your team, and you could
21:30
Speaker 1: be hurting your team. So I thought he had a
21:32
Speaker 1: really well thought out response to that, trying to see
21:34
Speaker 1: it from the other side of things being a defensive player.
21:37
Speaker 1: And then it's funny you put up that Dwight Freeney
21:39
Speaker 1: tweet about which maybe we should go back to two
21:41
Speaker 1: hand touched. Todd Bowles was asked about that today. If
21:44
Speaker 1: the league would dial it back even more sort of
21:46
Speaker 1: like what you've seen now happened with the Pro Bowl
21:48
Speaker 1: and and go back to the two hand touch or
21:50
Speaker 1: be softer and bowls. Who's clearly a defensive guy, said,
21:53
Speaker 1: I hope I'm out of the league by the time
21:55
Speaker 1: that happens. Steve, Yeah, Look, you know, here's a couple
21:58
Speaker 1: of the two. Saw the explanation if you watched the
22:00
Speaker 1: gratie here at play. This is how the textbook teaching
22:03
Speaker 1: is what they call a rugby tame. Right where you
22:06
Speaker 1: are are the alligator tack alright, you you wrap your
22:08
Speaker 1: arms around him and then you roll him. Grady Jarrett
22:12
Speaker 1: is not a dirty player. He is not known as
22:14
Speaker 1: a dirty He is not sup plexing or slamming tip.
22:18
Speaker 1: He rolls it on top of him, right, So he's
22:20
Speaker 1: not trying to hurt him. Question, is that necessary? That's
22:24
Speaker 1: that's necessary as the rule. Yeah, and Tom Brady is
22:26
Speaker 1: not a little guy. Right, Here's a big guy, so
22:28
Speaker 1: you've got to bring him down. But here's why this
22:30
Speaker 1: is so important, and this is why people are up
22:32
Speaker 1: in arms. The falcons were rolling, they were coming back back,
22:35
Speaker 1: they were about to come back look at the field
22:38
Speaker 1: position right there, right at midfield. So if they take
22:39
Speaker 1: au put the way the offensive and playing an opportunity
22:42
Speaker 1: to come back and win the ball game. Because remember
22:45
Speaker 1: on the previous drive the score touchdown convert the two
22:47
Speaker 1: point conversion. But also prior to that Grady Jarrett play
22:51
Speaker 1: on a third down, there was a ticky tack defensive
22:53
Speaker 1: holding on a J. Terrell which was also very questionable.
22:56
Speaker 1: There also could have been a dp I downfield. There
22:59
Speaker 1: could have been that, but for the Falcons to have
23:01
Speaker 1: that on two third downs on consecutive third downs, that
23:05
Speaker 1: compounded the angst to all of this. Do not deny this,
23:09
Speaker 1: especially when they had an opportunity to win it. And Sarah,
23:12
Speaker 1: we can't deny this. The fact that happening against Tom Brady,
23:15
Speaker 1: and he has gotten so many favorable calls going back
23:19
Speaker 1: to the fumble, however you want to call it the
23:23
Speaker 1: Chris Jones play and the NFC Championship game against the Chiefs,
23:26
Speaker 1: that only compounds the reaction to what we've seen. And
23:29
Speaker 1: we all know if you watch any Tom Brady game,
23:31
Speaker 1: he's not afraid to get a little chatty there with
23:33
Speaker 1: the reps real quickly before I sign off with you, guys.
23:35
Speaker 1: The Bucks won this game, and you know, football players
23:37
Speaker 1: will always say, hey, we would rather win ugly than
23:39
Speaker 1: lose and look good while we were losing. They're happy
23:42
Speaker 1: that they got the loss. But being in that locker
23:43
Speaker 1: room yesterday, this team was so far from satisfied. It
23:46
Speaker 1: almost sort of felt like a loss when you were
23:48
Speaker 1: in there. They got the win, they've got control of
23:50
Speaker 1: the NFC South, but Mike Evans sort of summed up
23:52
Speaker 1: the feelings of everybody in there. He said, no excuses,
23:55
Speaker 1: we have to be better. They really thought they let
23:57
Speaker 1: their foot off the gas. So look they've got the win.
24:00
Speaker 1: They've got to lead in the division. But by no
24:02
Speaker 1: means with this this celebratory feeling yesterday day here in Tampa,
24:06
Speaker 1: they've got their eyes on certainly bigger aspirations than what
24:09
Speaker 1: happened yesterday. Guys. Okay, I just want to add one
24:12
Speaker 1: little note here from research, total number of roughing the
24:15
Speaker 1: pass or calls for Tom Brady the last two years.
24:20
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that because it's not what you think.
24:23
Speaker 1: It's not what you think. I'm just I'm just eager
24:26
Speaker 1: to here four or five to one this year, the
24:31
Speaker 1: one yesterday and Grady Jared one in all of two
24:35
Speaker 1: years ago for the Super Bowl sprising. There you go
24:37
Speaker 1: to that surprising. So those are just numbers. I don't
24:43
Speaker 1: think the action was unnecessary. I don't think it was
24:46
Speaker 1: unnecessarily throwing it down. That's my opinion sitting from here.
24:50
Speaker 1: I also know no why Aaron Rodgers was throwing a
24:52
Speaker 1: back shoulder to Alan Lazard there. I don't know that
24:54
Speaker 1: the class was going to be complete anyway. But how
24:56
Speaker 1: about the Giants there? Four and one, that's next man. Normally,
25:04
Speaker 1: normally this game would be the headline here, but we
25:06
Speaker 1: had so much other stuff going on yesterday, plus that
25:09
Speaker 1: role news. Today it's three and one Kansas City, it
25:13
Speaker 1: is one in three Las Vegas. It is Monday Night Football.
25:16
Speaker 1: It is the games, James James Palmer live with us
25:19
Speaker 1: at Arrowhead now ahead of the conclusion to week number five.
25:24
Speaker 1: Or the Raiders are trying to figure out their one
25:25
Speaker 1: possession situation here but not winning these one possession games.
25:29
Speaker 1: But maybe the offense is coming around after last week, James,
25:32
Speaker 1: what's the story, Andrew? It's coming around. I think we
25:34
Speaker 1: all know. The Chiefs defensive coordinator Steve Spagnoll has been
25:37
Speaker 1: around for a minute, right, He's seen a thing or two.
25:39
Speaker 1: When he watches this Raiders offense. He believes it's going
25:42
Speaker 1: to explode this season. He's just hoping it doesn't happen
25:44
Speaker 1: tonight against his defense. What we've seen added to that
25:48
Speaker 1: mix is obviously the running game, with Josh Jacobs running
25:50
Speaker 1: for a career high a hundred and forty four yards
25:53
Speaker 1: against the Broncos a week ago, leading Josh McDaniels. The
25:56
Speaker 1: head coaches say after the game, I believe Jacobs is
25:59
Speaker 1: one of the best running backs in all of football.
26:00
Speaker 1: But what's happening when they run the football early. It's
26:03
Speaker 1: allowing McDaniels to see how teams are lining up against
26:07
Speaker 1: his wide receivers. In his past catchers, and now the
26:10
Speaker 1: third one is added back into the mix. Hunter Renfro
26:13
Speaker 1: returns from that concussion he sustained at the end of
26:15
Speaker 1: the game in Week two. So the Chiefs acknowledged all
26:18
Speaker 1: week we can't just bracket Davante Adams, we can't just
26:21
Speaker 1: bracket Darren Waller. We have all three of them we
26:24
Speaker 1: have to worry about, and as they run the football,
26:26
Speaker 1: it adds to the mix of how this Raiders offense operates,
26:30
Speaker 1: So they all believe in Kansas City that Derek Carr
26:33
Speaker 1: will find the open guys spread the football around Andrew.
26:36
Speaker 1: They're just hoping it doesn't start to explode tonight against
26:39
Speaker 1: their defense, but they do expect the Raiders to come around.
26:42
Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes has certainly been spreading the ball around
26:44
Speaker 1: without Tyreek Hill. That's been the story we've been talking
26:47
Speaker 1: about now for months. But we should also still remind
26:51
Speaker 1: people that this offense with or without Tyreek Hill goes
26:55
Speaker 1: through Travis Kelsey. It does Andrew. We keep talking every
27:00
Speaker 1: single week, what's gonna be different without Tyreek Hill. Well, like,
27:03
Speaker 1: let's talk about what's the same. It's it does go
27:05
Speaker 1: through Travis Kelsey, and he comes into this game number
27:09
Speaker 1: one in the NFL among tight ends and yards in catches,
27:12
Speaker 1: in touchdowns. And Patrick Mahomes said it this week, even
27:15
Speaker 1: though he's getting older, he turned thirty three this week,
27:17
Speaker 1: he's not gonna take a screen pass eighty yards to
27:20
Speaker 1: the house, he said. What he is doing is he
27:22
Speaker 1: keeps getting smarter each and every year, each and every game,
27:24
Speaker 1: to where he doesn't just line up and try to
27:26
Speaker 1: beat press man and use his physicality like the old days.
27:29
Speaker 1: He finds ways to have more freedoms in the offense.
27:32
Speaker 1: They move him around with some more motion and he
27:34
Speaker 1: uses the other players on the field, the other concepts
27:36
Speaker 1: within the play to just be more savvy and find
27:39
Speaker 1: ways to get open. Now, Mahomes says, once that starts
27:42
Speaker 1: getting rolling early, it opens things up for other guys
27:45
Speaker 1: within this offense like Juju Smith Schuster, who is battling
27:48
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury is questionable, is expected to play tonight,
27:51
Speaker 1: I'm told. But what it also does, Andrew, is it
27:54
Speaker 1: helps us offensive line. When Mahomes gets rid of the
27:56
Speaker 1: football quickly, they show all these different looks to a
27:58
Speaker 1: defensive line early. It helps the offensive line push that
28:02
Speaker 1: defensive line in the run game. Something that the Chiefs,
28:05
Speaker 1: as we talked about without Tyreek Hill right, try to evolve.
28:07
Speaker 1: They want to run the football more. They were extremely
28:09
Speaker 1: balanced last week against Tampa Bay. That's something they'd like
28:12
Speaker 1: to do in this game tonight against the Raiders, trying
28:14
Speaker 1: to get the Foreign one hopefully about looking ahead as
28:17
Speaker 1: we set up a Foreign one battle potentially next week
28:20
Speaker 1: with the Bills, a playoff rematch. James Palmer, I think
28:23
Speaker 1: I think I have that tie Is that from the
28:25
Speaker 1: tie bar? Yeah, good looking green tie there. We have that.
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