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Lane Kiffin Goes WOKE, USC Football on Trial, Florida Gators NIL Mistake & MORE · Unafraid Show with George Wrighster

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
• 0:01
  Speaker 2: USC is going to College Football Court today.
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: You don't want to miss it.
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  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin had a Vanity Fair article and now he's
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: being memed as a civil rights hero after that article.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta break it down because he really revealed the truth.
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: The twenty fourteen playoff is now being touted the Big twelve.
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: The acc are in favor of it, and I'm going
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: to explain to you why it is so shortsighted by them,
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: just like the coaches. Vanderbilt signing twenty twenty six quarterback
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  Speaker 2: Jared Curtis just got on campus and he's got a
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  Speaker 2: movie role as a part.
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: Of his NIL deal.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: And it came from college game Day and you might
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: have missed it. It happened right in front of your face.
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  Speaker 2: Florida head coach John summer Off. He is out here
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: campaigning for more money because he believes what a lot
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: of other college football coaches believe. That money will solve
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: all your problems. And it's illustrated through SEC donations. His day,
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: quarterback Aller got drafted by the Steelers. I was right
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: and you will never believe what was just said about
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  Speaker 2: him after camp. Thank you guys for watching to make
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  Speaker 2: people like you, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to it.
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: The best thing that I saw today It came from
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium on ice Cube Bobblehead Night. Ice Cube is
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: throwing out the ceremonial first pitch catchers out there is
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: normally a player. This person had a mask on. Mask
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  Speaker 2: is revealed. It is his co star, mister Mike Epps.
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  Speaker 1: This is La.
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  Speaker 2: This was a surprise to ice Cube. This is one
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  Speaker 2: of the funniest you know, trilogy quadrilogy of mood movies
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  Speaker 2: that you can find, especially in black culture and people
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  Speaker 2: who love hip hop culture as well.
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  Speaker 1: Love the movie's so quotable. It really just made my day.
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  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin put his foot in his mouth again and
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  Speaker 2: said something that triggered so many people and painted as
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  Speaker 2: a civil rights hero in memes. Oh, they're putting up
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  Speaker 2: the Doctor King memes, the you know, I am man
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  Speaker 2: type of memes, like he's out there leading a revolution
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  Speaker 2: for race relations and change in the country. No, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: now ole miss fans already don't have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: grace for Lane Kiffin at all because he left the
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  Speaker 2: job in the middle of the college football playoff run
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  Speaker 2: to take the LSU job. So here's the quote when
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  Speaker 2: he's talking about recruiting. Quote, Hey coach, we really like you,
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  Speaker 2: but my grandparents aren't letting me move to Oxford, Mississippi.
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  Speaker 2: And Kiffin said that that's what top recruits would tell
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  Speaker 2: him about old miss quote that doesn't come up when
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  Speaker 2: you say baton ruge. Louisiana parents are sitting there this
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  Speaker 2: weekend saying that the campus feels diversity and it's so great.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like there's no segregation, and we want that
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  Speaker 2: for our kid because that's the real world.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: On one hand, Lane Kippen is one hundred percent right now,
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  Speaker 2: I'm around a lot of recruits, my kids, one college
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  Speaker 2: football player, another one coming up. I'm around a lot
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  Speaker 2: of recruits. Of course, parents say that there's a perception
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  Speaker 2: of Mississippi. There is a reality of the past in
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  Speaker 2: Mississippi and in other Southern states because their parents are like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sending my kid all the way down there
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  Speaker 2: to involve in that or even take the chance of
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  Speaker 2: that that's a very real thing.
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  Speaker 1: But what Kippin actually.
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  Speaker 2: Revealed was why he left Old miss was because it
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  Speaker 2: was easier. He didn't want to try to overcome those
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  Speaker 2: stereotypes of Old Miss. No, he wanted the easier path,
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  Speaker 2: and that's exactly what he did. And then this led
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  Speaker 2: to him saying, listen, I'm sorry if you're offended. Style apology,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, quote really apologize if anybody at Old
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  Speaker 2: Miss or Mississippi was offended. He said in a four
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  Speaker 2: hour interview, I was asked a lot of questions about
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things, and Old miss have been wonderful
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  Speaker 2: to me and my family. I was asked questions about
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  Speaker 2: the differences in recruiting, and I said the narrative that
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  Speaker 2: there was some outer state black parents and grandparents not
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  Speaker 2: wanting their kids to move to Mississippi. That's a narrative
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  Speaker 2: that coaches have been fighting forever. It wasn't calculated in
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  Speaker 2: bringing it up now, I do believe that, but I
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  Speaker 2: do believe it revealed his real intentions. I was a
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  Speaker 2: kid who was born in Memphis, Tennessee, and lived there
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  Speaker 2: until I was eight almost nine years old, right next
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  Speaker 2: to Mississippi. So I understand what the heck is going
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  Speaker 2: on down there and how parents think about things. So
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  Speaker 2: he's not wrong, and he's not the only place that
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  Speaker 2: deals with that, Like the school I went to Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: The knock on them. Miss, Oh my god, it's only
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  Speaker 2: white people up there. You won't have any cultural experience
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  Speaker 2: and all of this stuff. Same thing if you go
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  Speaker 2: to Utah. Oh my gosh. Everybody out there is marrying
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  Speaker 2: and their sister and you know, got thirteen wives. Different
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  Speaker 2: places fight different things. La Oh, it's vain out there.
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  Speaker 2: You'll get lost. People have no soul. Race will always
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  Speaker 2: be somewhat of a factor in sec country. Look no
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  Speaker 2: further than the millions of impressions brought on by last
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  Speaker 2: weekends fake Ryan Clark quote about Boycotten schools where the
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  Speaker 2: surrounding economy benefits from the talent of black athletes, but
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  Speaker 2: then still tries to redistrict voting in a way that
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  Speaker 2: disenfranchises black citizens.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a real quote, and.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Clark was frustrated to have his name put out
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  Speaker 2: there like that on an ensuing debate that was very real. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the memes about Lane Kipping being some sort of civil
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  Speaker 2: rights as a leader, they were one hundred percent money.
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  Speaker 2: I laughed at them, but civil rights leaders made sacrifices.
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  Speaker 2: And the real reason Lane Kippen left every place he's
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  Speaker 2: been at is because each place that he went to
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  Speaker 2: looked like it was going to be an easier path
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  Speaker 2: to him or a stepping stone. And I like to
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  Speaker 2: quote mister Kirby Smart in life. He said, if you
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  Speaker 2: try to run away from hard, all you'll find is hard.
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  Speaker 2: So Lane Kiffin, I know you think that LSU is
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  Speaker 2: gonna be much much easier than ol Miss, but all
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna find there is more hard. The twenty four
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  Speaker 2: team playoff is now being supported by the Big Twelve
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  Speaker 2: and the ACC, and it could not be any more
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  Speaker 2: short sighted. And this is one hundred percent short sighted.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to explain to you why the Big Twelve
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  Speaker 2: and the ACC foolishly believe that this will get them
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  Speaker 2: more access to the playoffs. The reality is it won't
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  Speaker 2: because expansion of the playoff it is likely to come
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  Speaker 2: with guaranteed bids that crowd out the Big twelve and
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  Speaker 2: the ACC. And then the twenty four team Playoff it
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  Speaker 2: ain't gonna save coaching jobs. And I talked about that
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  Speaker 2: as well. All it's going to do is change the
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  Speaker 2: mentality the same way it won't with coaches. They believe
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  Speaker 2: that twenty four teams. The narrative now is let's just
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  Speaker 2: get to the playoffs. Get to the playoffs, that your
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: success if you get to the playoffs. Well, if you
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  Speaker 2: move to twenty four teams, the mentality is then going
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  Speaker 2: to change and people are going to back it up.
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  Speaker 2: Then they're going to say, oh man, this guy can't
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  Speaker 2: get out of the first round of the playoffs. He
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  Speaker 2: never gets out of All he does is make it.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody makes it. Twenty four teams still get fired. The
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  Speaker 2: goalpost is just going to move. And that's what's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen in the ACC and the Big Twelve because
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  Speaker 2: if you expanded last year's college football playoffs to twenty
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  Speaker 2: four teams, here is what you would have had. You
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  Speaker 2: would have had the Big Twelve get BYU Utah, Arizona,
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  Speaker 2: and Houston into the college football playoffs, So you would
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  Speaker 2: have had them get four more teams into the college
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  Speaker 2: football playoff, right, okay, And then you would have had
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  Speaker 2: the ACC get Virginia into the playoffs as well. So
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  Speaker 2: then you're like, oh, well maybe right, who else was
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  Speaker 2: in the top twenty five. North Texas, James Madison, and
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  Speaker 2: Tulane were also in there. But remember the lobbying of
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  Speaker 2: the SEC, lobbying of the big, the most powerful conferences.
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: Then they're gonna come in and say, you know what, guys,
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  Speaker 2: how are you going to rank James Madison and North
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  Speaker 2: Texas into the top twenty five when we have Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: and Duke in South Carolina and anybody else that you
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  Speaker 2: want to possibly imagine USC and all of these teams
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  Speaker 2: that should be in the College Football Playoff to Washington,
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  Speaker 2: it is just going to change the mentality of the
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  Speaker 2: people ranking. And then we would have trying to get
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  Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff to rank the top forty or
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  Speaker 2: fifty teams to then get to twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: How's that gonna work.
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  Speaker 2: We don't even like the way that they've ranked the
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  Speaker 2: top twelve all the time. So do we think that
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna get twenty four right and that that is
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  Speaker 2: going to stop the argument in the fighting? No, But
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  Speaker 2: here's what the Big twelve had to say. We like
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, we want twenty four. They said there are
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  Speaker 2: too many teams getting left out, and twenty four teams
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  Speaker 2: provides the type of access that is warranted. That being said,
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  Speaker 2: we do need to work around the economics around the
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  Speaker 2: twenty four team playoff format to address.
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  Speaker 1: Any unintended consequences.
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  Speaker 2: Acc then says that our desire with the coaches and
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  Speaker 2: ads is twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: This is what Jim Phillips, their commissioner, said.
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  Speaker 2: When you're leaving National Championship contending teams out of the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have the right number. We live through it.
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  Speaker 2: We suffered through it with Florida State when the field
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  Speaker 2: was four. I know other schools have suffered for it.
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame was a CFP worthy team last year, and
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  Speaker 2: you saw what happened to the last team that got
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  Speaker 2: invited with Miami, and then.
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame is in favor of it.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea why Notre Dame is in favor
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  Speaker 2: of it outside of the fact that they want to
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  Speaker 2: be in every single time. Everybody wants to be in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs. But the reality is everybody should not be
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  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. The playoffs should be an exclusive club
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  Speaker 2: and an exclusive group. But the good news is is
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  Speaker 2: that at least you have some coaches with some common sense,
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: and even ESPN does not want an expanded playoff past
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  Speaker 2: sixteen and the coaches that have come out against it.
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  Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian, he said they should retract the four from
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  Speaker 2: Mario Christobal. He said he thinks the twenty four is
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  Speaker 2: just a lot. It's not a beauty pageant. It's competition.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: The coaches and these conferences, they're just looking for access.
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  Speaker 1: They want in, but they.
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  Speaker 2: Don't realize the unintended consequences is that the goalpost then
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  Speaker 2: moves completely against them again. So just leave it like
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  Speaker 2: it is, or move to sixteen, which I love and
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  Speaker 2: have no boys. We saw a recruiting pitch, a pitch
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: to get a kid to flip right in front of
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  Speaker 2: our face, and then it ended up happening. That is
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: Jared Curtis, who some people have ranked as the number
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  Speaker 2: one quarterback in the country. He was committed to Georgia
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: and then on signing day he flips and goes to Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 2: Now what happened is in addition to NIO money from
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  Speaker 2: the school and promise of early playing time at Vanderbilt,
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: because obviously Georgia still has a quarterback right now, he
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: didn't want to wait, didn't want to sit so now
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  Speaker 2: he gets to go to Vanderbilt possibly start. What happened
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  Speaker 2: right in front of our face. It was on College
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: football game Day. And this is according to Klay Travis,
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  Speaker 2: who reported that Nate Berghazi, the comedian who was on
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  Speaker 2: College Football Game Day, when he was up there, he
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  Speaker 2: said that he would give Jared Curtis a part in
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  Speaker 2: his new movie if he flipped and.
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  Speaker 1: Went to Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the new movie Jared Curtis is going to be
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: in it is called The bread Winner. And this is
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: a part of Jared Curtis's nil deal with the Commodores.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: Now it is only a small part, but he's wearing
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: a Vanderbilt baseball cap while he is car shopping in
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  Speaker 2: the movie. And here is what Nate Bergazzi said on
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  Speaker 2: College Football Game Day last year. Quote, it's hard for
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  Speaker 2: me not to remind Jered Curtis how much I would
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  Speaker 2: love for him to come to Vanderbilt. And this is
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: when he was sitting between Pat McFee and Kirk Kurvestreet.
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  Speaker 2: He said, we're both local kids and we can become
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: better friends.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know what the rules are.
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  Speaker 2: Now, one of the analysts points out that nil is
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: a brave new world and at Bergazi's that his joke
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  Speaker 2: that he actually got cash.
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  Speaker 1: In his pocket right now.
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  Speaker 2: So after all this, Kirby Smart, Georgie's head coach, got
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  Speaker 2: asked about the Nate Bergazi using College Football Game Day,
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  Speaker 2: you know, his appearance to pitch Jared Curtis, and he said, quote,
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  Speaker 2: we recruit the best job we can and we sell
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  Speaker 2: what we have. I trust them for what they tell
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  Speaker 2: us and not get into gimmicks and propaganda.
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  Speaker 1: Now, on one hand, Curby's one hundred percent right.
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  Speaker 2: You should not be feeding into the propaganda and just
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: doing everything. But this is an insight in the world
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  Speaker 2: of what's getting kids to change their minds. Florida head
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  Speaker 2: coach John Summer he is out campaigning for more money
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  Speaker 2: in NIL because he foolishly believes what a lot of
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  Speaker 2: college football coaches and a lot of people believe in life,
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  Speaker 2: is that money is going to solve all your problems.
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  Speaker 2: He was out here talking about the money he said
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  Speaker 2: it's out there for Florida to increase its NIL. Said quote,
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  Speaker 2: the more you're investing in our program, the more access
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you. Coach, you are running a slippery slope
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  Speaker 2: by that statement right there. You can't give people too
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  Speaker 2: much access to your program. You in charge just saying
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: some are actually claim that the gap is currently significant.
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  Speaker 2: He said, quote, I think there are certain teams out there,
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  Speaker 2: I would say fifteen million above us at minimum in
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  Speaker 2: college football right now and in our conference. For us
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: to have a championship expectations and standards year in the
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: year out, we've got to make sure that we're pushing
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: an envelope to get resources like that. Now, on one hand, yes,
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: he's right, resources are very important. But the part where
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: he's missing is money creates different problems, and then you
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: have to figure out how to spend said money. Because
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: when you look at some of the teams that are
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: spending the most money in college football right now, particularly
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: in the SEC, they're not turning that into championships. In
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  Speaker 2: the nil era, even Indiana they didn't have one of
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  Speaker 2: the top page rosters last year.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't.
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  Speaker 2: This was coaching, this was development, this was execution, And
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: that has to be the key. In my personal business experience,
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  Speaker 2: I've owned different businesses and stuff like that. When people
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: come to me and they say, Yo, we need X
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  Speaker 2: amount of money to do this and this and this
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: even growing this channel.
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  Speaker 1: Mom's like, Okay, how can we do this?
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  Speaker 2: Or I asked them, how can you solve this problem
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  Speaker 2: if you had no money? And that gets people to
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: be very, very creative, and then we can put a
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: little bit of money towards the problem, the necessary money,
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: but we need to think about problem, ways to solve
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  Speaker 2: it outside of just throwing money at it. So the
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: SEC there's a list that came out of the donations
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  Speaker 2: to the schools and their athletic department. So this is
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: not just football, this is their entire athletic department from
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  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four to twenty five year.
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  Speaker 1: Look at these numbers.
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  Speaker 2: It is important to note that these are donations to
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: the entire athletic department, not just football as I as
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I said, but Texas one hundred and sixty seven million
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  Speaker 2: dollars in donations. They have not won in football, but
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: they have won in softball, and they've fillded very competitive teams.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Now there's a difference in fielding very competitive teams and
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: fielding championship teams. And that's what John Summerl was talking about. Tennessee,
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: same thing. Missed the playoffs last year. You can't believe
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: that money is going to solve all your problems. Coach,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: you gotta coach them up. You got to get the
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: right players in the building and develop them lasting up
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: to that. Drew Aller, former Penn State quarterback, I have
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: long been in the camp of I didn't think that
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: he was an NFL first round quarterback, even know that
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: some people believed it. The Steelers picked him with the
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: seventy six pick even though that he was injured and
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: had a terrible season, so they at least believed that
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  Speaker 2: that had he been healthy and played well, yeah, he
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: could have been a first round pick. But Steelers reporter
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  Speaker 2: Brooke Pryor is telling us that Mike McCarthy believes that
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: he is quote needing to do a full reset. He said,
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  Speaker 2: they're essentially uninstalling everything that he has learned, and they're
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: reopening up their own methods, their fundamentals and mechanics with Aller.
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  Speaker 2: Brooke Pryor also said that I watched McCarthy and quarterback
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  Speaker 2: coach Tom Arth be very intentional with Aller, who was
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: running around at have speed working on his footwork. I
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: have long said in watching Drew Aller and watching the
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: offensive mess that was at Penn State his last two years.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I could not understand why why Andy Kotniki, mister James
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  Speaker 2: Franklin were running an offense with a dude who's not
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: a mobile quarterback, with a quarterback that doesn't run, having
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: them run and playing in a phone.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: And when you watch Dollar.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Play, he averaged two hundred and two passing yards and
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: one point six passing touchdowns in his thirty five years
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  Speaker 2: as a sophomore from his sophomore to his senior year
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  Speaker 2: at Penn State. But now you take away the nineteen
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns in the two thousand yards into nine garbage non
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  Speaker 2: conference games, that goes down to under two hundred yards
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  Speaker 2: a game and barely over one passing touchdown. The point
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  Speaker 2: of this whole fiting is is that coaching and development
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: matters for quarterbacks. Do not send your kids or hope
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: your kid your program gets a big name quarterback. Pray
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: that they get the quarterback that fits their system and
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: is going to develop the quickest.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: There.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: But you, guys up, next USC goes to college football Court.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: You do not want to miss it. This is big,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: this is significant. I am excited.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Let's get to it.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: We are in college football Court and USC is on
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: trial right now, and to bringing in we have a
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: man who by all accounts said it was fair journal
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: listing principles, and his mister Ryan Dyrad.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Ryan, Yes, are you ready to go?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Are you ready to defend USC against all of these allegations.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give hi my best shot.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: The first charge is ducking. This is a Notre Dame
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: scheduling issue. When we know that Notre Dame is partially
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: to blame for this because they were not willing to
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: play week zero, but USC only wanted to play week zero.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: So how do you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Plead to the charge of ducking and putting a pause
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: to one of the biggest ribberries in college football?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I mean I would plead not guilty.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: I'm sure many will disagree with that, But what I
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: would plead not guilty when you have the ability to,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: you know, look at yourself and say, hey, what's best
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: for our program, for our players, and these are the
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: terms we want. And Notre Dame historically has been known
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: for everyone kind of abiding by whatever they want and
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: their rules.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: And us he said, you know.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: What, we're going to look out for ourselves and here's
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: our terms, and now just today or whenever this show
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: does go out, comes out that the discussions have begun
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: once again, and Notre Dame looks like they are willing
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: to move the game to the front of the schedule
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: like us he wanted. So to me, it looks like
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: USC just kind of, you know, put some of their
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: power forward in order to move this game, which was
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: best for them based on the Big ten scheduling that
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Notre Dame doesn't have to deal with. And so you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: if they would have just said we don't want to
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: play this anymore, there's no point. Then yes, you could
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: be guilty of ducking, but they gave an option. Whether
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: people like it or not, there was an option there,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: and so I'll go, I don't know all the court terms,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: but I guess I'll say not guilty.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, Now as a as a retort, if you will,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley had been leading up years that you know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: maybe we'll take this game off and and the schedule's
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: too tough SEC scheduling. He did say that, so hint
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: hints the charges.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, did he.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I don't remember him ever saying we would it's too tough.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: He said, we got to do what's best for our program,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: so we will look at all options in order to
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: see what's best for us moving forward in order to
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: you know, get into the playoff and whatnot. So there
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: could certainly be reading into that saying it's too tough,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: But to me, it was just, Hey, if we're playing Oregon, Washington,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Ohio State, Indiana back to back to back and have
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: to play a Notre Dame in there, why can't we
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: play Notre Dame like every other school in the country
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: at the beginning of the non conference schedule. To me,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: that seems like a fair ask at that point. Now
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: on Notre Dame side, because they schedule so far out,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: we know that they have all their tough opponents because
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: no one else can schedule them late in the year.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: They schedule all their tough opponents at beginning of the year,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: so they're pretty stacked up, you know, until twenty thirty,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: which is why this might not happen again until twenty thirty.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: So I see both sides.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: So into week zero to week three, I think, or
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: just week zero.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, I think I know this for
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: this season. It was week zero floated and we'll see
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: what they say. But my opinion, yeah, anytime in September.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: I think they now if they George, if they come
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: out and say week zero only, like we won't do
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: week three moving on, then that's a larger discussion of
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: maybe ducking. But you know, as long as there's open
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: to beginning of this before the Big Ten schedule, I
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: think that's totally reasonable.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, I can, I can.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I can quit you on that charge because there is
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: reasonable doubt. Charge Number two impersonation. USC is a college
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: football blue blood historically, and we just did a video
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: about even the new blue blood. So according to our criteria,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: they fall into there. So no matter what era you
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: put them in, they work. Is USC really a contender
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: in the Big Ten this year for the Big Ten Championship?
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Fantastic question.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: And I think we've even had a little discussion on
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: this a little bit prior, and I think they are
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: a contender. Does that mean I think they're going to
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: win it or be in it? Not necessarily at this point,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: but a contender is just hey, will they compete in
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: all these tough games? I think going into the year,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: we'll see when the odds officially come out, but I
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: think they'll be underdogs in four games, so by the odds,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: they should go eight and four, which would not be
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: a contender. But I believe that they will you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: contend in those four underdog games, which will likely be Oregon,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: at Penn State, at Indiana, and Ohio State in my opinion,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: and I think they can certainly steal one of those,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: which puts them at nine to three, and if they
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: can steal another at ten and two, then they would
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: likely have a shot at that big ten. So that's
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: a great question, obviously a long discussion, but for a
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: simple answer, I do think they're a contender. The question
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: is now, is that youth of talent, those fifteen returning starters,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: can they turn the page on some of those fourth
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: quarters and close out some games against the true contending teams.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Oregon's a true contender, Ohio State, it's a true contender,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: indiand is a true contender. So they got to beat
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: one of those to be that next echelon. But I
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: think that they're a contender going in. But are they
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: an actual, you know player in the field.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: That's what we'll have to see.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I think people are underrating the Washington game and the
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: at Penn State game. YEP, I think, well, and the
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: at Wisconsin game because Wisconsin has put out a good defense,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: it's been their quarterbacks that haven't been able to stay healthy.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: So while everybody's pointing to the Big Four games, I
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: think that that that that at Penn State and the
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Washington game are are sneaky games as well.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Now, I think I think Penn State they'll be an
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: underdog to start the season. We obviously will see those
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: a change. And Washington, I think it'll be basically a
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: pick them just because it's a home game. If it
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: was in Seattle, they'd be probably an underdog in that
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: one to open the season. I mean it's a it's
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: a loaded, vaunted schedule, and so if they're able george
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: to get through that schedule at it ten win clip.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Then they should be in the playoff one hundred percent.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they would.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: They would prove it they're a true battle tested team
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: because I mean this is off topic here, but you
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: look at like Indiana right last year. Now, they proved
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: their salt in the playoff by blowing the doors off
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: of teams in the playoff, but their regular season it
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: wasn't exactly a gauntlet. I mean, they were able to
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: skate into that Big Ten Championship game with basically at
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Oregon at Iowa, and that was really the only times
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: they were tested at all. So USC will have proved
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: in the regular season this year if they get through
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: it that hey, we're the real deal because we basically
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: played a playoff level schedule week in and week out.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And SEC fans should have nothing to say about that charge.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Number three, Ryan misappropriation of funds because USC is heavily
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: invested into the twenty twenty six class for financially the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty seventh class with some eye staggering contracts. So
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: are the funds being misappropriated at USC and not investing
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: more in high end transfer portal Town.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I think it's a great point. I think they misappropriated
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: before this twenty six class. You know, there was We've
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: talked a lot about how before Chad Boden got to
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: town and before you know they built their front office
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: the way they were, I mean they were just overpaying
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: for players in the portal, overplaying for recruits that ended
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: up either flipping down the line when you look at
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: like Justice Terry Isaiah Gibson, those like big Georgian guys
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: FORRGIA kids. Yeah, and then you know they it was
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Florida kids out there as well, just not allocating correctly
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: and having the correct strategy of how to use their
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: funds to kind of build the roster for the future.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: So they went all in on this twenty six class
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: and this approach for the future. The question, and I
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: know this is what you're really getting at, is are
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: they spending too much for the future when right now
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: is what.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Needs to be the winning season?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: And Riley exactly exactly like they got to They got
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: to win now in order for Lincoln Riley and that
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: staff to keep their jobs. So I think because of
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: the returning roster that they'll be able to be, like
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: as we just talked about in the last sement, competitive
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: enough to get to that win threshold or at least
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: look like a true, really close, contenting team that you
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: wouldn't want to blow that up. And so then they've
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: allocated money for the future. Where hey, from now this
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: point on, they are in that Oregon, that Ohio state
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: that Michigan echelon year in and year out because they
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: mismanaged for the first three years, and now these last
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: two years or year and a half, they've actually gotten
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: on the correct path. It just took too long, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: that's kind of why we are where we are saying, Hey,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: it's win now or bus so you know you got
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: to see you go do it. But I think the
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: future looks bright if they're able to do that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm glad you brought that up, because that goes
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: to our fourth chart, false advertising. Lincoln Riley at the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: end of last season, they played the ball game, he
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: got up there. Hey, it took a long time, but
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the championship window is now open. But when I say
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: false advertise, because why not before when Smuasu and others
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: have done it much faster?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: And is this window even real? Yeah?
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: So I've said this before.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you believe this or not, but
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I think if Lincoln Riley hadn't signed a ten year
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: contract most coaches get like a five to six year
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: deal on their first deal, right, If he had not
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: signed from Mike Bone and Brandon Sozna and you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: President Folk, all three of those people are no longer here.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: If they had not signed that ten year deal, I
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: think after year two, USC would have moved on. I
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: think Jen Cole was brand new, had just come in,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: he wasn't her guy. They didn't have a GM yet.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: The roster that year two was a disaster. Year one
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: was a mirage, right, Caleb Williams Heisman. They end up
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: winning eleven games, but there was a ton of miscues.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: There was a ton of mismanagement. Obviously we talked about
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: allocation of funds. I mean, it was a mess. So
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: year two then that reared its ugly ahead and now
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: you have a new ad you're looking at bringing into GM. Fine,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: you're going into the Big ten. I think they probably
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: would have made a change there to say, hey, we're
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: starting fresh as we go into the conference.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: See.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I would have thought it would have been after year
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: three that because that one was so bad, and they
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: would have came in and been like, you know all
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the things that you just said, where it was, you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: new new conference.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: We gave them a chance, and then it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Was maybe we need to reset. But that's ten year
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: deal has bottom some extra leeway though.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is this is what I was getting next.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I would agree with you.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: But I think what ultimately happened after year two is
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: basically gen Co and the Powers of Be said, Okay,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: we're tearing this thing down. And I know year three
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: is not a year year tear sitting down. There should
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: have been year one. But then they tore that thing down,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: you know, redistributed the strategy, all of that. You go
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: six and six, because that's your true rebuild year. We
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: saw that they were at least competitive. I mean, I
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: know that's not what people want to hear about USC
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: fans don't want to hear this, but they were in
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: every game. I know that's the phrase that everyone hates
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: hearing one play away or whatever. But they were competitive.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: And then you go into year four, which the administration
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: in their minds is saying it's year two. You go
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: nine to three, and so now year three is like, okay,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: now the window, as they're calling it is open. So
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: it's pr right, that's all it is. In reality, it
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: is year five. But because the administration inherited a staff
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: that was already in place, that had a ridiculous contract
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: with a lot of longevity, they had to in real
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: time kind of reevaluate what was the real landing pad.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, Chad Bowden last year was telling recruits we're
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: gonna win eight games this year, and they won nine.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: So they were ahead of what their actual inside, not
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: the outside perception, but there inside perception, and so I
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: think they now really believe Okay, you know they're not
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: going to say they reset that publicly, but now they're
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: in this window, which I believe they are too.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: How do you plead to the charge of false advertising?
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Guilty or not guilty?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I would say, okay, I know, you know, I hate
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: when politicians don't give a one word answer, but I
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: would say it's not false sense that I believe right
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: now there is a championship window. It's false the fact
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: that I think they're misleading about what would have behind
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: the scenes prior to this window being open, if that
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: makes sense.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Charge five criminal negligence that failing to retain
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: danton Land after the improvements that were made to the defense,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: and also not putting together a good defense year after
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: year while he's been there.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, this is an interesting one. There's a lot
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: of question I'm sure you've talked about this or heard
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: from others too, of like how bad Dan Linn did
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: actually want to be at USC. I think, you know,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: besides got along good. I think he did a fantastic job.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I think he's a fantastic coordinator. I think he's gonna
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: thrive up at Penn State, and I fully believe he's
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: eventually going to be in the NFL. I think that's
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: his true landing spot. And to me, the only college
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: you would have left for was his alma mater in
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Penn State. To your latter point, I don't think they
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: maybe got him the roster going into year two required
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: to make the next jump. We saw in year one
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: a pretty significant jump when we took over, you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: for Alex Grinch, and we saw a competitive defense. I
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: mean that LSU game in week one, and we saw
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: some great second half adjustments down the line. And I
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: think in year two the expectation was, okay, this one
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: from one hundred and sixteenth ranked defense to a seventy
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: second or whatever ranked defense, this should now be a
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: top you know, thirty defense. And they still finished in
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: that what forty six to fifty range. So it wasn't
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: that bigger jump that was expected. And to your point
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: or to your question or to your charge, I think
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: some of that is they just did not have the
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: talent depth that the other big teams had, I mean,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: going up against that in that Oregon game in Eugene,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: when their defense was missing half their roster. I mean,
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: they had no talent depth behind those initial eleven starters,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: and they got exposed for it against Notre Dame, they
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: got exposed for it against some of the other teams.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: They were able to hold up and that's why they
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: got to nine wins. So yeah, I would say the
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: charges is fair that they did not give Lynn the
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: absolute best roster possible for him to be successful. But
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I don't think there was any you know, in retaining him.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: I think he truly maybe didn't fully want to be here,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: and when Penn State came calling, it was too good
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: for him to go to his alma mater.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: So there's a secondary charge to this one. If Gary
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Patterson's defense, which USC fans are very excited about, if
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: this does not produce a top thirty defense because there's
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: depth there, there's all.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: These things there.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Now, is Lincoln Riley's offense or just Lincoln Riley to blame.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Indeed been guilty?
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean he has to be guilty at some point,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: he's the head coach. I mean there's absolutely I think
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: there's absolute guilty factors in all of it, in all
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: of his defenses in doing that I think with Gary
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Patterson he'll have a true CEO of the defense that
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: will run that where I think he was still, whether
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: good or bad, was having to be involved more with
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Dan Lamb, with Alex Grinch. I mean, even guys like
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Steve car Sarkeshan has said he moved on from his
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: DC because he wanted a CEO. He didn't want to
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: touch the defense. Have a guy go run it. Why
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: he brought me will must champover. So I think getting
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame head coach like Gary Patterson will
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: allow Lincoln rally to be like, Okay, this defense is
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: yours own it, and you know, I'll help when I
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: can or help when it necessary. Obviously be involved still,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: but I can be a true you know, architect of
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: the offense. You can be a true architect of defense.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, George, he's the
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: head coach, so no matter what, he's going to have
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: some blame to that and quickly. And I'm sure you
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: follow up on this, but I'm not sure the offense.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I know what you're kind of getting at is the
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: offense in practices to blame for the defensive development. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: think in years past you get one hundred percent say yes,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: when you look at what he had at Oklahoma, even
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: what he brought in year one at USC. I think
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: though we've seen a massive, you know, offensive identity shift,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: specifically last year with how much twelve person with how
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: much thirteen personnel, with the change of pace. I mean,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: they ran a pace of offense similar to Ohio State,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: very different than what he ran at Oklahoma or even
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: in your home with Lincoln Riley. So I think that
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: has changed where that argument is not as sound as
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: it was maybe three years ago, four years ago, but.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: As the head coach always got to have some blame there.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Now goes to count six. Identity theft.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: USC fans they get on social media, they talk a
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: lot about Oregon and the uniforms and everything else. But
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: now there are rumors of alternate uniforms on the horizon
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: for the Trojans. Is this Are they guilty of identity
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: theft if they come out there in anything other than
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: the red jerseys gold pants and white jerseys gold pants.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, if they do it, I think, yeah, you
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: got to be right. That's been their staple and that's
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: what fans have clung to and hung on. Now I'm
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: not a jersey person that really follows along with it.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I don't get involved in that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I haven't been a a USC historian in terms of
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: jerseys or whatnot. Like I personally would be okaki Uni
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: or l white Uni growing up with the times. But
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: based on what the chatter is and what everyone defends
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: of tradition, yeah, they'd have to be litle identity theft. Now,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: what I will say is the big one is as
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: long as they don't put names on the back of
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: jersey that I am all. I would be all against that, Like,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: do not put the names on the back that has
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: been as staple for USC as side with the color
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: of everything. But keep the keep the names off. I
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: think that's the most important.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, So so they're only so they are guilty if
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: they do it, but they should get life if they
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: put names on the back of the jerseys. Yes, charge
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: number seven securities fraud, but s period E, period C
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: period as in securities fraud. Trying to recruit nationally because
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you had twenty one players originally from states with SEC
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: representation on the twenty twenty five roster, including a lot
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: from the South. Instead of focusing on California, recruiting.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this was a huge issue for the beginning of
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: the Lincoln Rally era and at the end of the
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Clay Helton era. Way too much ononus on nationally when
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: you have so much talent in your backyard. It's why
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Oregon started feasting recruiting in California. Part of that started
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: with sanctions, obviously, but Oregon did such a good job
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: of planting their flag here. Notre Dame obviously had a
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: great presence in California, and you know, Lincoln Riley has said,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: you know, you still got to recruit nationally, and there's
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: obviously great players when you look at Luke Wayfel, when
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: you look at Jaqem Stewart, when you look at some
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: of these dudes from all over the country.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: You don't want to shy away from that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: But you absolutely when your name is USC and you're
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: the biggest brand in California, like you need to own California.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: And when you want a kid, and that's the big thing,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Jordia think, when there's a kids you want, You're not
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: going to get every California kid, there's too many. But
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: when there's a kid you want, you shouldn't lose him
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: and you shouldn't let him go somewhere else, especially to
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: an interconference, to t like Oregon or like an intercom
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: or like a rival and Notre Dame. So that was
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: a huge problem early on. Obviously you're not going to
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: publicly say that, but fan base has said that, We've
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: all said that they covered the team.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Is like what do you do?
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: And having eighty percent national kids in your recruiting class
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: and only twenty percent. I think it was like twenty
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: two percent in the twenty four class or something like
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: that in California, So that shifted obviously, and I think
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: it was sixty eight percent or so in the twenty
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: six class, and that's even with thirty five commits, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: right now it's at almost eighty percent I think in
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: this twenty seven class somewhere in there. So there's definitely
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: been a shift, and I think it's a help their retention.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: You haven't seen as many flips. Obviously, there's other aspects
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: to that in terms of recruiting, but it's it's brought
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: in a lot of excitement around where US is going
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: because you have these kids that are finally staying home
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: because the team wants them to stay home and not
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: pushing them away when you look at the Bryce Underwoods
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: and whatnot. That was pre Lincoln Riley. But these kids
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: that wanted to come to C and SC just didn't
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: really want them. So yeah, it was a huge issue.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: But they finally have turned that around and fixed it.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, and obviously you have to win
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: to keep that up, but initially you have to do
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: something to change the tie in the twenty sixth class,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: because I think the twenty seven class feels a little
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: more momentum and you know, kids really want to be
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: there as opposed to twenty twenty six. It feels like
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: that there were some kids that chose because the check
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: was right.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: I'm sure that absolutely was probably part of it. I
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: think what's impressive, and I think that's why many people
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: think that that's all it was is money and buying
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: is because you're coming off a six and six season
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden you get all these loaded
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: kids that want to stay and you know, or believe
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: in the you know, you can say you believe in
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: the future, but it's like when you're coming off of
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: six and six, a seven and five and a six
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: and six year back to back, Like what grounds are
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: you standing on that you believe the change. The big
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: difference was, you know, USC didn't have a true GM
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: those years. They finally get Chad Bowden, and he put
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: so much emphasis on, hey, this is the class that
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: is turning this around. As we talked about earlier in this,
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: you know, there was just a big shift after year
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: two and then going into year four, and so I
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: think obviously there were financial gains that were shifted and
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: changed and they were allocating correctly. But I've talked to
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: many that took less money to stay because they wanted
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: to stay home, but they believed in what was being built.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Obviously there were some that probably took you know, more
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: to stay. I think we probably know so who some
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: of those guys are. But I think it was a couple,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: you know, a pairing of the money being right, but
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: of the newfound strategy and Chad Boden kind of leading
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: the charge saying, hey, we're turning this thing around. This
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: is our plan, like not just staying but actually drawing
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: out a plan. This is how you would be involved
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: in terms of playing time and how you would be
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: able to actually help this happen. And then here is
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: how we're going to set the foundation for the future.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: So I think it was a full scale recruiting strategy
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: shift and then obviously having the NIL to back it
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: up certainly help with how they've been able to retain
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: and kind of move forward into the future.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so guilty on this one, but we're not.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: But we're going to give them like a diversion program
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: because they have, because they have promised to change change
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: their ways and now they have. You know, they're they're
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: they're putting forth the good, earnest effort.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: So we so we've so the future looks bright.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Charge eight failure to disclose because there are higher level
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: media restrictions around the program than there are most programs,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: and if you say something bad, you may not be
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: invited back.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: You know, this is always an interesting one because I
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: hear this from a lot of people, even colleagues that
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I have, I personally have never seen this. Covering the
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: team for five years, having credentials for five years, at
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: every practice, at every game. I've also covered professional teams
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: like the Rams and the Chargers. I've also covered u
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: c L a across town, and I can say specifically,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: we'll just keep it to college. The u CL was
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: always way more restrictive, right, yeah, oh it was yeah
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: wild Now I've heard it's gotten way better now with Chesney,
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: and obviously Chesney's doing amazing things at Westwood, but with
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Foster it was even worse than with Chip, Like he
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: got even more restrictive. So anyway, I say that because
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: like I never saw it with USC was like way
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: more open. They do like, you know, different media days
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: and have different media. We had like multiple coaches sessions
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: during the spring which I didn't see other programs have
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: no Obviously I'm not following other programs and nearly as close,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: but you know, during that spring session, it's like USC
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: clips were all over the place, all over social media,
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: which I didn't see from a lot of other programs.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: So there is some I think that's there's no denying it.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: There's definitely a little bit more restrictive than like during
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: the peak caroll eras, but there were I think reasons
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: for that, and I personally have had no no issue
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: whatsoever in getting what I need and when I ask
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: for certain things, I'm always you know, met with you
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: know usually yeses and and stuff that I need.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: So I've had no problem with it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: We will still go guilty. However, they will not get
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: a first degree charge. They'll get a third degree charge.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: So so so it'll be lowered down to a misdemeanor
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: instead of a felony.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: There you go, where we're going to a farm instead
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: of to jails. That's good.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Charge number nine trespassing UCLA is a better representation
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: of LA than USC.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: M interesting charge there, Uh, just in terms of the
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: like the representation, like the players in the program, or.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I will leave it up to however you would like
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: to interpret the charge.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I would say no, just because of how dormant UCLA
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: has been. Obviously they're on the uptick now, but it's
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: been you know, three months. You know, we're putting a
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: lot of stock in three months of recruiting and some
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: spring practices. UCLA, as I just mentioned, was the most
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: like shut off program in LA of any sport, regardless
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: of college football, pro whatever. And you know USC being
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: kind of the long standing football identity in LA, even
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: above the Rams and Chargers, and you know you put
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: them online with Raiders and Niners. When you look at
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: historical contexts, I would say that USC definitely identifies much
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: more with LA than than UCLA.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Not guilty, not guilty on that charge. Charge ten, you
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: have two counts left. Disorderly conduct. USC is on a
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: social media binge right now. They are attacking Oregon, they're
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: attacking Notre Dame, they're attacking Ucla, they are attacking everybody
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: without the wins to back it up. So disorderly conduct.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: USC is conducting itself as if it's a more prestigious
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: member of the Big Ten than Oregon, and then you know,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: and in college football than Notre Dame and UCLA when
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: the results recently have.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say guilty, I will say, but I
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: love it. I think it's absolutely doing that. They're absolutely
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: you know, picking fights here and there, and they don't
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: have anything to back it up in the in the
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: past few years. But you know, in this day and
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: age of social media and this day and age of
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: trying to gain more fans, and especially in the youth
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: fan base, and where social media is so prevalent, Like
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: everyone was talking about USC in March, No football is
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: going on. They were already done with spring camp at
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: that point, so weren't even having spring practices, and yet
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: the entire college football world was talking about USC. Now
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: a lot of the college football world was talking negatively
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: about us Seed, but they were getting those impressions. They
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: were getting that chatter. And it's that's the social media's
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: team job to do, whether you're an indie industry, football, sports, movies, businesses,
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: to get people talking about your brand. And the old
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: saying no press is bad press. I think that's a
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: little bit debatable, but in this instance, I think this
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: bad press is still good. So absolutely guilty, George, but
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I love it. And hey, if it's just for a
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: misdemeanor of a disorderly conduct, I'm okay with that.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: This will be a delayed sentencing because I like it too.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like it if you back it up.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: If you don't back it up, if we if we
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: come around November and December and you're at four or
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: five losses at the at the end of the season,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: you go from beating the charge on a technicality to
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: like football's version of the of the DP that like,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: you gotta get you gotta go last charge nonfeasance because
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: it is the legal term for failure or omission to
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: act when a duty or obligation exists. Okay, so this
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: one is not levity levied against USC. This is against
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: USC's fan base. Are they failing to perform their duties
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: by not making the coliseum loud, by not making it packed,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: and not it historically showing up to spring games?
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's what's crazy?
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: I didn't realize this, George, But in Lincoln Riley's first year,
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: the spring game, the attendance was like thirty five thousand,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: and that was the most ever for a USC spring game,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: even during peak Carell years.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Like, I was pretty shocked by that. Man.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know anyone that lives in La No,
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: it's just, you know, it's an excuse, but it's true.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: It's just, you know, it's hard if you're not a
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: true winning team to pack stands out. I was at
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Dodgers Stadium. Not to get off topic, I was at
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: game four of you know, the Shoheo Tani game when
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: he hit three home runs at Dodger Stadium. I was
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: at that game and there was a section in right
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: field that was completely empty. Still like Dodger Stadium playoff
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: that and Dodgers are the biggest ticket in Los Angeles,
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: and so it's just so it's a weird city in
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: terms of fans kind of showing up. So to your question,
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: I think in the past few years, I think there
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: was some failure of showing up. But it is up
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: to USC to win, to get those teams in and
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: last year we saw it in the Michigan game. We
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: saw it in some of these other I mean IOI,
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't call it a sellout by any means, but
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: that was a monsoon downpour and it was a pretty
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: rocket sixty two thousand at that stadium in a Mon's
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: like the biggest rainstorm we've seen in LA in quite
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: some time. So it's coming around. I don't know what
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: the term what is it. It's not undecided. There's a
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: term like in between guilty and not guilty. That's where
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: I would put it, because I think there's it's been
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: both sides haven't been putting the output required, but we're
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: finally getting to that spot where I think both will
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: make it happen this year.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going guilty. USC is one of historically great
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: college football programs. I don't feel like that they're one
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: of the historically great football fan bases because the great
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: fan base you look at like tour of the fan
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: bases that I think are the best in college football
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: who haven't been putting out the results lately are Tennessee
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: and Nebraska, and they still sell out. And then I'll
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: have USC fans say to me, well, there's so much
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: to do in La. Well, there's also twelve million people
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: here too. So and like you said, because I'm a
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Dodger season ticket holder, go to a.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Lot of games.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: And granted they play eighty one home games basically, and
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: they're not necessarily sold out every game, but they are
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: eighty percent of capacity, like damn near every single game
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: and on eighty one time. So people spend their time
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and money where they want to be, and they're loud.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I just feel like that the fans, even when they're there,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: they need to be louder, that they need to be
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: a bigger part of the game. And I mean, and
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: that's because I went to Oregon, so I've seen what
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: fans are like. I've been to games at Utah, I've
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: been the games in Seattle, at Washington, and this is
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: just the Pac twelve places forget and I would say Utah, Washington,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: and Oregon are on par with what what you would
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: see out of SEC fans in terms of the energy
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: and atmosphere. So that's why I'm giving you at USC
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: fans guilty. But they do have a chance to fix this.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: It is that the time is now. Make it a
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: real home field. It'll be good for everybody.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I mean we we've seen that that coliseum rock and
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: it's it's a pretty special place in special envibment. And
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: like I said, that Michigan game was awesome. I mean
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: it was such an awesome game to be a part
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: of and to see, and and some of those games
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: back during Kayleb Williams era were pretty awesome as well.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's that's been kind of the uphill battle
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: is getting that, like similar to you, Drew, I'm from
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: Denver originally, Like Denver is such a great sports town,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: like it, I mean, you got a Bronco games even obviously,
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: you know, speaking collegiately, Colorado has been what an interesting
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: program that's a whole nother discussion with but yeah, but
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: but you know we've seen that stadium at folsome Field
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: and how it gets rocking and whatnot, and so you
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: know that's been the challenge with with just the la
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: you know, culture in terms of sports and whatnot.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I agree with you. It hasn't
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: been quite good enough.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: But I think this is the year we can we
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: can see it get all turned around and come to
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: what it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Now we have gone through all the Chargers. Is there
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: anything else that you want to say about USC before
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: we render final verdict on the USC program right now?
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: No, I think I'm just this is like I said,
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: I've been covering this team for five years, been on
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: the beat for five years, and I get accused whatever,
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: which is fine, of having some biases to this team
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: or whatnot. But I saw it, but it was really bad.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Like I saw the end of the Clay Helton there.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: I was at the game covering it against Stanford when
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: they got blown out and he got fired the next day,
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: and I saw the first Lincoln. The team is operating
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: completely different these last three hundred and sixty five days
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: from what we saw previously, the previous you know, three
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: and a half years or so. So that is where
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: my excitement kind of leads, and that is where my
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: confidence is that this team is actually finally getting BacT
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: to that level that USC should be, as you mentioned,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: as a blue blood year in and year out, not
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: ah a one good year and then three off years.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: It needs to be a dominant Big ten national title
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: contender every single year. And I'm not sure if they're
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: not well, not sure if they're not a national content
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: contender going into this year. But I think they're at
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: that level of becoming that again. And that is why
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: my excitement and confidence is because they're operating so differently
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: than I saw the previous three years. So here's my
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: closing argument.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I guess Okay, Now, now for your final retort, what
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: will USC's record be at the end of this year,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: because you may get a number of years at it,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: so you will be then.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Put on trial if you are wrong. What will the
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: record be? Oh?
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Man, I'm going to be doing my full kind of
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: offseason schedule breakdown and predictions here soon. I mean, no
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: matter what, it's got to be nine wins. Anything less
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: than nine wins, we'll have some very challenging conversations and
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: some coaching changes. Most likely, I think this team can
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: win ten. I think ten's the ceiling. Nine's got to
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: be the floor. Because you're asking me the question, I
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: got to make a prediction. I will go for the
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: sake of being the confident bias report.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I'll go ten and two.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: I think they steal two of those games that they're
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: underdogs in and sneak into that colle football playoff at
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: ten and two.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, Ryan, will you tell the people where they can
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: find you and your content because you were great today
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: in court and you defended USC with the best of
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: your mind.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Well, George, I appreciate having me on so much. It's
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: always fun interacting with you. So yeah, you can find
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: me at Ryan diired LAFB on Twitter or usc LAFB is.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: The YouTube channels. You can find all of our content there.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it, all right, Thanks Ryan, all.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Right, man, thanks much for having me on. Appreciate it.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: It is top ten times in this time, the top
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: ten names in.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: All of sports.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I have a list, but we're gonna do this is
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: we normally do one through ten. But the whole reason
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: why this came up is because Ralph sent this over
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: to me and I need him to do some explaining
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: because this man's name came up on my so so
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: his name is z White Woman, and I was like,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how this happens. He committed to a
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: to college and it looks like he's a Native American,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: and Ralph is our Native American expert around here.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: And you can tell the people why Ralph.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: My dad, My dad is Cheyenne. He's actually I got
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: an ant that's friends with this kid's mom. It's a
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: small community. This kid is Cheyenne, a Rapao as well.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: But yeah, you had some questions as to why somebody
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: would be named Z white woman or ZI white woman,
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: and I have this is a very niche space where
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: I actually have a couple of answers for you. So
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: whatever questions you have, fire away.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, So is this common to be to have last
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: names that are like white women?
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, so it's very common, especially in like Lakota
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: tribes throughout like the planes when you're in school, if
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: you learned about the nomadic tribes, they would kind of
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: follow the buffalo, follow the food lot. A lot of
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: the names you will find our nouns, some verbs and nouns,
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: and yeah, it's pretty common. Okay, Well I got I
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: got family with the last name beaver heart, running elk,
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: standing bear, stuff like that, and so it's it's pretty common.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: And George, do you know why it is common to
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: have names like this?
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Well, in my mind, I'm like, because they got a
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: chance to make up dope last names instead of getting
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: them from slave owners and not understanding why your last
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: name is reister and you go to Germany, they're.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, weista and yes, yes, that's that's that's me.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: Okay, well it might surprise you to find out that
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: these last names are the same as your last names.
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: It really all just comes down to convenience for white people.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: That's it. Like, that's not like that these names aren't
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: they're kind of rough translations, and so.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: The translations of what their names actually are.
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: Kind of kind of but in a way that makes
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: it more palatable for the consuming public or the people
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: who actually need to conduct business or whatnot. I mean,
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: you've seen it. There's a lot of African Americans with
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: the last name Jefferson and Washington. Because at the end
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: of the day, you're freeing people, they need last names.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: Let's just give them the last name of the person
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: who owned the plantation, like that's a very and sometimes
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: the name of the people who fathered them out of wedlock.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: But that was a very common thing in American history.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: To be very clear, a lot of white people last
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: names are goofy as well. They just don't hit our
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: ear as goofy because we're so used to hearing them.
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: But like someone named John Johnson, that's hilarious. That's John
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: John's son. Like that, it's like the most basic thing.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: But why did I never hear that? Like that?
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: When you slow it down, it changes everything Johnson?
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Or like or like that's Dave Smith, Like, oh,
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: I know what his dad did.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: He was a Smith.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: Like it's just that, it's it's that common. Like and
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: so here's the here's a whole deal with native last names. Right,
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: So some natives, not all tribes, name their kids like
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: Pokemon style. You'll get one name when you're born, and
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: it'll describe the circumstances of your birth. You'll get one
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: name later in life based on a reputation that you've earned,
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: and then you'll run into some white people, and then
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: you'll get another name that white people can handle. So
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: there's a guy named Charles Eastman. He helped found the
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: Boy Scouts. He got a name when he was born
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: that roughly translates to like pitifol last, which is sad. Right,
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: his name his name was Hata. Is just one name
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: Hakata uh and he got the name pitiful last because
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: his mom died in childbirth, so he was named after
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: like the worst thing that could possibly happen. But then
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: he showed like a lot of uh promise as a
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: young man in in academics, in athletics, and eventually he
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: got his name changed to Oe Yesa, which means always
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: wins or the winner. So it's like Pokemon you have
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: like Charmander and Charisark right, like that, he evolved from
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: being named after this tragedy to being named after somebody
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: who always wins. But then when it was time to
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: go into business for himself, his name became Charles Eastman. Okay,
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: So so like that that's that's a typical thing or
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: like really like really famous natives that you know, like
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: sitting bull. You know, sitting bowl is a rough translation
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: his actual name. His actual name is tatanka iyotake, which
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: means a buffalo that is in the process of resting,
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: like about to rest. But yeah, no, we'll call him
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: sitting bull. Right, So basically to go back to z
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: White Woman, which is an incredible name. His name is
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: actually win Yonska. His last name is win Yanska, it's
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: and so, but for some reason, and I think that's
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: what he probably goes by in his family as well,
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: Z win Yanska, which means win Yon is woman and
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: Ska is white. So it just becomes easier for the
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: consuming public, more convenient for the consuming public to call
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: him Z white woman, which is in again, objectively incredible name.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it really just comes down to like what
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: white people are most comfortable with.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like that that gift where it's.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Like like, damn, bro, so you didn't know you were
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: coming to the show today to learn something, but you did, but.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: You tempted into the one thing that I know, like
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: a little bit about. It's not sports.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: You are ray Man Bro, you know.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Like the one cross over which they knew about. All right,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: so let's get to the top ten. So before we
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: get to the top ten, though I want to love Actually,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: i'll put the names that I left out of the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: top ten after just in case some of yours are
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: are on here.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I will go first, number one all time.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Go did this dude even has a move named after
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: him in the sport that he played, and that is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: God Sham God, who was a basketball player at Providence.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: I remember watching him in the NCAA tournament.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: He literally coined a move that everybody still calls the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: sham God today.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: That that name is so pleasing, like it feels good
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: to say, it feels awesome to hear in a game.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: Plus he could ballp Not everybody on my list like
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: turned out, you know, as one of the best athletes,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: but that's one of the best college athletes of all time.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: And the fact that we still talk about him twenty
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: years later is because he was good with a cool name.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: A lot of these guys kind of fall by the wayside,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: So I love that. I love that as a one
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: to one. I tried to kind of keep mind to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: college football, but it was impossible because my favorite name
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: of all time is a college basketball player just like God,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: Sham God. I don't know if you've ever heard of
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: this man. He was like the Taylor Griffin to Blake Griffin.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: He was like the lesser brother. I think one went
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: to Virginia and his name was Majestic Map.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, but his brother, his brother Scientific.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: Map, Scientific Map, who played for Florida A and m
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: You only played two years there. Back when I was
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: like eleven and twelve years old, and I thought that
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: was the funniest thing in the world back then. I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: think it appeared in like a in a sports illustrator
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: for kids or something like that back then, and it
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: has been stuck. It's been a brain worm for thirty years.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: Scientific and Majestic Map, but more specifically scientific map is
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: the funniest. Yes, because it doesn't even like one kid
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: is magic and the other one is logic. Like it
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: just incredible. And they're from New York too, Just just
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: an incredible job by his parents.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, because names matter, right, So my so, my my
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: sister and her husband are having a baby, right, and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: he likes the name Cassius. She looks up the name.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: What the word the name Cassius means and it means
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: like hollow or empty or whatever. And she's like, oh, nope,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: absolutely not. And her name means a gift from God
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: and so so she's particular about names, and yes, as
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: as am I So that's what.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: But that's what makes Cassius Clay like the greatest name.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: I know we're not gonna bring it up in here,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: but it makes it the greatest name ever because what
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: the whole thing like You're supposed to be a vessel,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: right for whatever God wants to do with your life.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: So hollow vessel and that's up. Yeah, yeah, that's too cool.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: That's too cool.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Clay bat than this, sugar right? Better than that?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Boy? What what did? What did they call him? Look like?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Little bulldog? Mike Tyson?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: That's a that's a coming to America and I'm glad
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: you've seen it now, Ralph.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: It is an incredible movie, number three on the list.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: This is a man who's played fairly recently and oh man,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I wanted him to go be I wanted this kid
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: to go be literally the coldest ever mister duck, coldest Crawford.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: That was just I remember when I first heard it.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, brother, there's no way. I thought it
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: was a key and peel s kit and it was not.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: And I loved it. I loved it.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: Like his parents had no idea. I mean, they had
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: to know they were onto something, but they had no
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: idea that it would have nil value. Twenty years later,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: when he's in h VAC commercials, yep, that was.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm saying that is.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: An old timer. I have to get into my all
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: time greatest college football name. It's just a perfect name.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: It's perfect. It's technically a nickname. So I felt weird
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: about making this my top college football one, but I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: gotta go with Rice wide receiver. Mobility. It is the
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: funniest name in the entire world.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like that Mobility.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: You can't just say his first name. You had to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: say the full name every time. That's mobility, Mobility with
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: a cat. You wouldn't just go with his last name.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: Who would it? What broadcaster would ever just say his
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: last name if he called that? That would never happen.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Mobility, Mobility for three Mobility.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: His name is smooths Crossover.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: His name is Mohammed Is. His name is Mohammad. I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: don't think his which as a very important comedy movie
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: to me, remind you, Mohammed is the most common name
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: on earth. Mobility is the most unique name.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I love.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: It's a perfect college football name. And he's number four
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: for me, number two for me, even number four on
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: this list.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, this one.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: I just love this name, and probably because it has
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: some sort of I don't know what it brings up
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: in me, Ralph, but it's something about it that I really,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: really like this kid played for North Carolina.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: His name was Storm Duck. I don't know why I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: like this name, but storm.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Duck just kind of I don't know, it just sounds
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: It sounds kind of cool, and you know what, it
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: reminds me of Oregon's robo Duck.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we can get a picture of him up.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: That It was invented when I was in college because
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: they had just changed the uniforms and everything, and then
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: they came up with this bright idea to change the
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: mascot to Ralph. It was grand opening, grand clothes, and
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: people hated it so incredibly much.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: It was like a real guy who was like a
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: little super.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Hero strong Duck, and he could do all the acrobatics
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: and everything. And it turns out the Puddles aka the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Oregon Duck would whoop his ass like in terms of
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: fan like liability, and it's one of the top mascots
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: in all of sports. So the fact that they thought
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: they were going to replace him was foolish. But anyways,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Storm Duck.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: I figured I figured you would. I figured you go
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: for a homer pick somewhere in here. I got. I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: got one loaded up and ready to go as well.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: My next one. I don't know if you're even gonna
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: believe this, George. It's such a bizarre story. There was
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: a college football player, he's my age back in the day.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: I think he was out of Florida, and I think
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: he played at Northern Illinois and dead Spin wrote a
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: story about him while he was in college, and he
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: responded to the story about his name by writing them
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: a letter telling them to go f themselves, and then
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: legally changing his name. What are you ready for this?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: He's fascinating, Ralph. We have to make YouTube videos about
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: these stories.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Bro. People want to hear these stories, and you're depriving us.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: Okay, are you ready for this man's name? Yes, Lucius Pusse.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Dude, I have his name literally right here. Bro.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: College what wait, wait, damn, I forgot what he played
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: you and you just told us and I've forgotten he was.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: He was at Eastern Illinois, not or in Illinois. He
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: was at Eastern Illinois and dead Spin and I was
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: an avid dead Spin reader back in the day. They
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: wrote an article about him, and he he he wrote
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: them an email saying calling them mf r's and saying
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: he's going to shoot a middle finger at them when
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: he makes the lead. Uh. And then he changed his
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: name to Lucius Seymour, which was his mother's Uh.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Lucida Seymour Pousse.
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  Speaker 5: His dad was a Pouse, his mom was a Seymour.
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  Speaker 5: He had the opportunity and he didn't take it to hyphenate.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: And that will bother me for the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 5: Lucius Seymour Pousse would have been the all time greatest
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: name in the history of sports. It was not meant
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: to be. So shout out to Lucia's Seymour. Wherever you
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: are out there, you are a part of sports history.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: All right, My next name mop is And now so Ralph.
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  Speaker 2: You you actually have changed my whole thinking on this
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  Speaker 2: because at first I was going to save all the
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: things that would make you blush until the very end.
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  Speaker 1: But I am not. Now, I am not. I am
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  Speaker 1: going with Swimmer.
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  Speaker 2: I think she was on the USA team. Misty hymen.
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  Speaker 5: Oh man, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: You started this. You started this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I was going to save these for the end.
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  Speaker 2: But now, but now look what you did.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Well, I'm gonna calm things down a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: I would not have put this person on the list
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: if they had stayed for their senior season at Colorado
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: State University, because I don't want to give them any
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: undue press. I'm a Wyoming guy, and that's what side
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: of the border war I like to stay on. But
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: he is spending his red shirt senior year at Oklahoma
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: trying to compete for a national championship. This is somebody
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: has been all over the country. He was at air Force,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: Florida International, and Colorado State University. When he was at
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: Colorado State, he might have been the most perfectly named
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: player in the history of college football. His name is
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: Rocky Beers, mister beer bro.
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  Speaker 2: That is an nil gold mine at Colorado State. Like
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: especially if he were the coldest, it would be the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: coldest fear. Yes, especially if he was the coldest dude
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: on the field. Oh my gosh, that would be an
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: awesome name.
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  Speaker 5: I imagine he won't have to pay for any drinks
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: in Norman if he's good. If he's good, they'll love him.
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  Speaker 5: He got Mark Andrews talent in him. They will love
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: him out in Norman. Shout out Rocky Beers. Don't have
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: to root against him anymore. And it feels good, Yes,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: And for my last pick. This one was so hard.
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  Speaker 5: I'm actually going with one of my former team eights
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: when I was in with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And Ralph
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: is always amazed.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: That I can that I do well with poly last names,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: and this was the first one that was difficult, that
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: I that I just rolled off the tongue for a
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: kid who stuttered. It just so happened to work right
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: with the tongue muscles. And that is chris ful of
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: my to my I filla.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, that's maybe the most fun name to say ever.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, used to play with Pittsburgh running backs and and
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of like it's weird because a
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: name like Giannis ants Kumpo, it doesn't roll off the
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: tongue the same. But Chris fool ma tou my ifalla,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: it just it just like rolls off feels good, it's smooth.
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  Speaker 5: You know what it is. You know what it is.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: What you've been You've been with them at their homes
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: eating their food well, and it's good food. And when
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: you got an opportunity to get food from somebody, you're
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: going to learn their last name. When we get you
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: on Greek food, you're gonna you, you're gonna like antitokumbo
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: is not gonna be a problem for you at all
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: when you get some some Mediterranean Uh all right, so
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: this is the last one, right you kind of pigeonholed me.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to do it, and I'm not going
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: to say it, and I'll probably never say this person's name.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: And the only reason he's not making our list is
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: because I just can't can't do it. So instead of
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: the most obvious name on the planet being in the
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: ten hole here and I think I know that you
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: know who I'm talking about, do you know?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: Uh, dude, he said right here, he's talking about Noah,
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  Speaker 6: that's that won't even be what We're not even gonna
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: attempt it.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm going to go with my homer pick. Usually
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: in the ten hole, I give a homer pick. This
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: is a name I love because it's a perfect description
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: of how imperfect he was as a football player, and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: that is mister Vontez perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: I The reason I've always liked it is because you
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: know it.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: He was like, you could mistake it for perfect, and
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: then you're like, no, it's perfect, and you're like and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: then you watch watch him play and then you watch
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: him hit people, you're like, oh, there's nothing perfect about
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: this perfect person, so it's not perfect.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Fact perfect is actually you know,