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I Am All In…Again: I’d Like You to Chase Me Now (Season 4 E11 “In the Clamor and the Clangor”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's you.
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  Speaker 1: I Am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: podcast Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcasts, one
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  Speaker 1: of the productions iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcasts. Recap Season four,
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  Speaker 1: Episode eleven, The Clamor and the Clanger Air day, January
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven, two thousand and four. We have a very
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  Speaker 1: very very very very special guest. Uh, you know or
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  Speaker 1: your lover, Tara Suit is with us. Tara, how you dealing?
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  Speaker 1: It's been too long, Scott.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen you in so long. I mean we
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  Speaker 2: talk on text and stuff, but I haven't seen you
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  Speaker 2: on zoom.
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  Speaker 1: The podcast is expanded to such size, yeah that it
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  Speaker 1: has so many moving parts now, and you guys are
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  Speaker 1: over there just killing it with your your segments. Tell
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  Speaker 1: us a little bit about the segments that you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: And oh, well, Susanna and I do town Meeting And
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  Speaker 2: it's so fun because I get to really dissect every
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  Speaker 2: single episode. As you know, Suzanne like finds every little
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  Speaker 2: tiny thing in every episode, and she's rubbed off on,
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  Speaker 2: rubbed off on me. I find myself being like, did
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  Speaker 2: you see that? Like painting in the background and She's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. Actually, there was an episode we've recently watched
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  Speaker 2: and there was a guy in the in the food
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  Speaker 2: hall at Yale and he was wearing a blue backwards
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  Speaker 2: hat and I thought it was you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I saw that guy. Yeah, yeah, I remember that guy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, now, I'm just paying attention to
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  Speaker 2: all things Suzanne did. But it's fun. We're doing a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things Amians, and y'all have the gazette. It's
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  Speaker 2: all fun stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Oh great, all right, here's the synopsis. Lane's band. What's
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  Speaker 1: the name of her band? By the way, that has alien?
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  Speaker 1: Is hep Alien? No? I haven't named it yet.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, not yet.
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  Speaker 1: So they get a gig at CBGB's, the famous now
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  Speaker 1: torn down replaced unfortunately CEBGEBIS in New York City. But
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't come without a price. Luke and Lorlei make
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  Speaker 1: up to silence the newly restored bells, not only after,
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  Speaker 1: but only after Laura I realizes maybe Luke hasn't moved
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  Speaker 1: completely away, as he claims that he lives in Lichfield,
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  Speaker 1: but his apartment looks lived in and his bed looks
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  Speaker 1: sleeped in. So she put a little Columbo and figure
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  Speaker 1: in and connecting the dots. Rory confronts the laundry room Guy.
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  Speaker 1: Directed by Michael Grossman, written by Sheila Lawrence and Janet Leahy. Overall,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you think of this episode?
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  Speaker 3: Tara?
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  Speaker 2: I love this episode. I think it had some very
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  Speaker 2: important parts with Lane and missus Kim for sure, And
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  Speaker 2: I really was team Luke on this, I really was.
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  Speaker 2: I think that Lorelei was a little harsh.
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  Speaker 1: Her fear got the best of her, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, he really he really stood as great. You
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  Speaker 1: know what he's good at enforcing his boundaries, isn't he Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he is good at that.
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  Speaker 2: He is good. Yeah, And you know, I think that
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  Speaker 2: he's trying to figure this out on his own time,
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  Speaker 2: and that's okay, and I think she needs to give
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  Speaker 2: him a little bit of space. But I'm glad he
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  Speaker 2: said what he needed to say, because you know, it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't her business that maybe he had dishes in the
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  Speaker 2: sink in his apartment and he slept there, like he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't need to explain himself, so right. But I can
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  Speaker 2: also understand because you can tell she really cares.
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  Speaker 1: She cares, and it's almost like a plea coming from her.
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  Speaker 1: Please chase me a little bit. You know, why aren't
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  Speaker 1: you chasing me a little bit? Yeah, I'd like you
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  Speaker 1: to chase me now. Yeah, she pulled his hair and
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  Speaker 1: like and then she runs away. J Yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So Stan, old Stan has passed away. The old opening
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  Speaker 1: is the church and there's a memorial service for Stan.
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  Speaker 1: And one of his dying wishes was to get those
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  Speaker 1: church bells ringing again. Uh so he left money to
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  Speaker 1: repair them in his will. So they start ringing and
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  Speaker 1: it annoys the heck out of the entire.
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  Speaker 2: Town, which is really funny.
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  Speaker 1: It was funny, Lorla I is it Luke? Since she's
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  Speaker 1: surprised to learn that he has moved in with Nicole
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  Speaker 1: and got an apartment in Lichfield three weeks ago in
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  Speaker 1: another county, and she gets angry, you know, but he
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  Speaker 1: didn't share that information. Doesn't feel like they have a
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  Speaker 1: close friendship anymore. She walks out, and then Luke comes
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  Speaker 1: to her house and is shoveling her snow, which he does,
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  Speaker 1: you know, automatically, right, But she comes out and she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't confront him. She just she's coming out to thank
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  Speaker 1: him and say hello and all this. But he's you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's he's loaded and ready to go, and he unleashes
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  Speaker 1: yea and enforced his boundaries.
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  Speaker 2: He's been waiting for that moment.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, yeah, man, And Laurela is starving, so she
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  Speaker 1: reluctantly walks to Luke's after that fight or after his
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  Speaker 1: boundary enforcement speech, and she breaks the ice by saying,
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  Speaker 1: you want to break.
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  Speaker 3: The bells and he's like, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So they go upstairs there in cahoots now, and it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a brilliant ploy on her part, right yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they don't really need to discuss what went down now.
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  Speaker 1: She's just like she trumps all that with like this,
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  Speaker 1: let's just go do this thing. And that's when she
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  Speaker 1: sees his apartment because he used to go up and
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  Speaker 1: get a jacket and get his toolbox to uh to
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  Speaker 1: to disconnect the bells, and she sees all the evidence
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  Speaker 1: that maybe he didn't move out. All right. Now they're
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  Speaker 1: in the church, they're breaking the bells, trying to break
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  Speaker 1: the bells. She asks about living with Nicole again, she relentless, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: back down.
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  Speaker 3: She went back.
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  Speaker 1: And then he Luke presses her why she thinks so
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  Speaker 1: important to her and then she says, that's the moment.
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  Speaker 1: She says, because I care, Right, it's in the church.
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  Speaker 1: She cares they're there to vandalize.
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  Speaker 2: The church, but she cares about Luke.
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  Speaker 1: She is about to admit her feelings when the pastor
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  Speaker 1: walks in. Right, this is the moment, Tara, this is
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  Speaker 1: the moment that Laurelai is like. And then I started thinking, man,
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  Speaker 1: this is coming on hard and fast and kind of
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  Speaker 1: all out of nowhere, out of the blue. And then
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  Speaker 1: I realized this is season four and something momentous is
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  Speaker 1: in the offing, which I believe is called the first kiss,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know what it's common, but it's coming
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  Speaker 1: this season and it's coming in the next couple episodes.
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  Speaker 1: So I think, oh, okay, all right, So they're ramping
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  Speaker 1: it up, all right, So we're getting little clues here,
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  Speaker 1: build up of her feeling in his feelings. The moment
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  Speaker 1: almost happened, Terr. You think something would have happened if
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  Speaker 1: he didn't walk in, she would have said something.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it would have come up eventually. I
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  Speaker 2: think I would have been lingering there. Lorelei and Luke
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  Speaker 2: are interesting, where specifically Laurai she doesn't want confrontation usually,
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  Speaker 2: so I think it's usually the other person who brings
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  Speaker 2: it up. And then yeah, I don't know, I'm I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's smacked dab in the middle of dating.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot these styles, and I forgot too until I
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  Speaker 1: just read this.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot until I was reading our notes and Jackie
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  Speaker 2: made and I was like, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 1: So this is this is doubly significant that she seems
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  Speaker 1: to be enamored with Jason and but what is she
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  Speaker 1: doing in the church with Luke? Huh? But I tell
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  Speaker 1: you this woman's got options, don't you. Yeah, she's not alone, man,
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  Speaker 1: which is why Luke needs to doing force his boundaries,
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  Speaker 1: because man, he don't want to get a caught up
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  Speaker 1: in that or.
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  Speaker 3: Else he does he does. Uh. Do you think she's
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  Speaker 3: being a little hypocritical here?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Is this just an overreaction to Luke's quite serious love life?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of both, because when
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  Speaker 2: she's dating someone, she doesn't take Luke's feelings into consideration,
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  Speaker 2: and so it is hypocritical in that way. But also
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  Speaker 2: she is overreacting because Luke and Nicole got married. It's
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  Speaker 2: not like they just went on two dates. Now it's
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  Speaker 2: like they're trying to get a divorce. They're trying to
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  Speaker 2: figure it out. And Luke is so nice that he
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  Speaker 2: you know, he when Nicole comes back and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: I want to figure it out, he's also like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'll give it a shot. Because Laurelai is doing
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  Speaker 2: her own thing.
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  Speaker 1: Laurel I is dating, she is sleeping with another guy.
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  Speaker 1: She is in a church with functioning bells, and she
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  Speaker 1: is trying to break up a marriage. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: just reality.
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  Speaker 2: Well is she trying to break up a marriage or
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  Speaker 2: the marriage already broken?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But he's married. That's a married guy.
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  Speaker 2: True on paper, he is married. Yes, ship has.
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  Speaker 1: Sailed, ship is gone. He left the harbor. Interesting. It's
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  Speaker 1: an interesting situation that they she finds herself in. Yeah, boy,
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  Speaker 1: but fun to watch, isn't it all? Right? Lane?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Now I've been to CBGB's. I was at CBGB's in
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  Speaker 1: the seventies. Oh wow, I know CBGB's. I know the
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  Speaker 1: bottom line, I know all those places. I know Maxis
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City.
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  Speaker 2: Oh cool.
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  Speaker 1: And CBGB's is no more.
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  Speaker 2: When did it close?
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  Speaker 4: Do we know?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Ten years ago, five years ago, but
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  Speaker 1: it's gone.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it sad to see places oh close in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and six.
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  Speaker 1: Two thousand and six, there you go, twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy to sea places you grew up going
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  Speaker 2: or been in the past like no longer exist. Because
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  Speaker 2: I'm dealing with that, Like just places like nearby my
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  Speaker 2: house where I'm like, man, I used to there's a
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  Speaker 2: movie theater by it by me that's got demolished. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I used to go there as a kid, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's heavy. It's heavy stuff, man, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you would You would have thought that the city would
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  Speaker 1: have labeled it in a store sor right, right. I
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  Speaker 1: guess they don't think punk rock is historic for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: Could have been like a museum or something historical.
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  Speaker 1: Society steps in and like starts rock punk rocking out, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: protecting the place. Now I just think it's condos, Oh really,
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  Speaker 1: Or it's a different kind of store. Yeah yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: just somebody bought it and then that's that.
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  Speaker 2: Why do they always turn into condos everything?
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  Speaker 1: Because that's for a real estate developer, that's the best
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  Speaker 1: bang for the buck, and for the city, it's the
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  Speaker 1: best bang for the buck with property taxes and small spaces,
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  Speaker 1: get ten twenty different separate property taxes and got it.
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  Speaker 1: It's yeah for the it's great.
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  Speaker 3: For the developers in the city.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So they got Lane's got to figure out
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  Speaker 1: how to get by old missus Kim that battle ax
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  Speaker 1: and laying the band await and go on at CBGB's.
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  Speaker 1: But then this guy comes backstage and says, you've been bumped.
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  Speaker 1: There's nobody out there. I sent everybody, and you're not playing.
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  Speaker 1: And Zach Zach is being particularly annoying. He doesn't like Gil.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's just it's like, I think the guy's going
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  Speaker 1: to leave the band. Gil Why oh Gil?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Gil.
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  Speaker 1: Be super positive. Yeah, you know he's wearing the appropriate
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  Speaker 1: gas station Vibe shirts as a rocker and uh yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Gil is coming off well. Lane's coming off very well.
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  Speaker 2: But Zach, Yeah, it was a little annoying this episode.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, let's pump pump the brakes
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  Speaker 2: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, So so she's out. Lane's out. She hasn't
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  Speaker 1: told her mom where she is.
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  Speaker 3: She just left.
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  Speaker 1: We find out.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't it feel sudden, Like I feel like all of
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  Speaker 2: this happening in one episode felt like, Wow, we got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Lane just rebelling in one episode.
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  Speaker 1: But I yeah, I liked that storytelling. I like the
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  Speaker 1: pace of that because we we kind of don't need
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  Speaker 1: to see we already have seen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're four seasons into it.
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  Speaker 1: We're four seasons in. We know the drill with those two,
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  Speaker 1: we know the dance, so there's no reason to see
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  Speaker 1: it again. Yeah, called a timer lips, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was used very well in this situation because I
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  Speaker 1: liked being there. Yeah, it's good to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit behind the story, you know, where you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you have to catch up. I think that's good. Keeps
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  Speaker 1: it moving, m all right. So you know, the gig's
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  Speaker 1: canceled and Lane has no work. She's not gonna home.
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  Speaker 1: So she shows up at Yale, at Rory's dorm.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what time it was like,
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  Speaker 2: was it like middle of the night.
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  Speaker 1: Well they said that you know, it was probably two am, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: two thirty because their gig was at one that's right. Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so Rory calls her mom, wakes her up, says Lane
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  Speaker 1: Steer and she hasn't call her mom.
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  Speaker 2: What do we do.
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  Speaker 3: What do I do?
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  Speaker 1: Rory wants to call missus Kim, so Laura I calls
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  Speaker 1: missus Kim, lets her know, and then and then we
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  Speaker 1: find missus Kim outside of Luke's. Yeah, very early in
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  Speaker 1: the morning.
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  Speaker 3: Why was she going to.
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  Speaker 2: I so I was thinking about this because I was
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  Speaker 2: thinking she was going to get Lane and then stopped
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  Speaker 2: at Luke's. That was just my assumption. I'm probably wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought she was going to get her,
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  Speaker 2: but she was.
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  Speaker 1: She was fine, like five am. Luke was getting the
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  Speaker 1: let bread delivery and take it in the dinner still dark.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I Also, it was such a telling
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  Speaker 2: moment of when Luke's like Lane already told me she's
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  Speaker 2: not coming. She's such a good kid.
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  Speaker 1: That's why the scene was there.
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  Speaker 2: That's why the scene was there. Yeah, but it was
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  Speaker 2: just so like that was such.
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  Speaker 1: A contacted me. She contacted Laurala. She didn't contact you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: basically that was the purse. But she just ends up
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  Speaker 1: it did. She stopped in the middle of the street,
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  Speaker 1: she got out of the car and she called after Luke.
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  Speaker 1: H and what did she ask him? Where Lane was?
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  Speaker 1: But she already she already knew, right.
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  Speaker 2: She already knew. She just said that Lane's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be coming to work tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean she could have just been going
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  Speaker 2: on like a like a drive, couldn't sleep and trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out why her daughter did this, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought she was dry. She was heading to
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  Speaker 1: g Gale.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I assumed too. I mean, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: I think it's up for interpretation, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, she's on her way to yell. She
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  Speaker 1: So the next day, Lane thanks Laurya for Rory for
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  Speaker 1: letting her crash at her dorms. She'd admit she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: think she has she has a good life. Lane doesn't
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  Speaker 1: think and wants to have more of a spine when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to her mom. So now we're setting up
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  Speaker 1: for this big confrontation. And now missus Kim is in
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  Speaker 1: Lane's room and she finds all of her secret hiding
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  Speaker 1: spots and all of her CDs and the floor and
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  Speaker 1: everything's out. And then Lane comes in apologizes. Missus Kim
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  Speaker 1: blames herself. Lane tries to negotiate with her about how
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  Speaker 1: she wants to live her life inside Missus Kim's house
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  Speaker 1: and you know, in her house too, But her mother says, predictably,
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  Speaker 1: you may move out and live like that somewhere else
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  Speaker 1: and walks out of the room. Yeah, and then shows
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  Speaker 1: up but Rory's dorm.
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  Speaker 3: Room with a suitcase.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what.
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  Speaker 3: I think, You're right.
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  Speaker 1: This all happened so quickly, but that's how it is
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  Speaker 1: in life, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean she can't, she can't change the decisions she's made.
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  Speaker 2: She made them, she left, she stayed out, Like what
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  Speaker 2: else was it, you know? And then I think it
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  Speaker 2: was just to take it back a little bit. You
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  Speaker 2: know the scene when Rory came to get a new book,
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  Speaker 2: but it was really just a CD in the book,
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  Speaker 2: and then missus Kim was like looking at the book.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think missus Kim this whole time knew like
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  Speaker 2: that everything was in the floorboards and all that, Like,
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  Speaker 2: do you think she knew that Lane was hiding the stuff?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was. Yeah. I kind of felt the
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  Speaker 1: same way when she when Missus Kim looked at the book,
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  Speaker 1: because I think thought she saw that the book was
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  Speaker 1: a different color than the jacket, so it wasn't it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't fooling her but she wasn't going to say anything
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  Speaker 1: right then and there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, God, how do you feel about this?
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  Speaker 1: Like you just kicked out your own child, Like you're gone,
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  Speaker 1: it's like my way or the highway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly not gonna lie. I teared up a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. I thought it was an emotional scene. But
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  Speaker 2: I also I think missus Kim had these rules and
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  Speaker 2: Lane followed them even though they were really strict. I
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: don't know. I go back and forth because, like I
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: understand like following your parents' rules if you live under
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: their roof, Like I totally respect that, but I do
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: think some stuff was taken too far over the years
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: of like I don't know, just little things that we've seen.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: But I think she's just trying to be a protective mom.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: So it's like hard. I'm I go back and forth.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Well, people grow up, they mature.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: But she is. She is old enough to move out,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: so I think that's also probably the reason why missus
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Kim said it as long as she's in high school anymore,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: she's in community college, like she that's kind of the
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: age eight. She's probably eighteen when kids move out.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Very powerful scene. I'm sure a lot of viewers have
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: been in that situation and could relate. Well, this is
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: going to be a turning point for her, for Lane,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: and you know she can try to suggest a way
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to make both her and her mom happy. So I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: mean I can relate actually to both sides of this. Yeah,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: that's the beauty in the writing, right, you can. You
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: can see both signs, all right. So here we have
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Rory at Yale, Yes, and she is signing up for
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and you know, let's talk about this confrontation with the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have a name, but the laundry room guy
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that she asked out for coffee who said no, is
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: making her life a living hell. You so you would think, yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and he's telling apparently, according to Rory, he's telling that
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: story to everybody that will listen in a mocking.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Tone and basically calling her a stalker.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, What she doesn't get is that he's not
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: talking about her, right, It was a different person who is.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Actually sort of a borderline stalker.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Different situation. Yeah, but for me, it feels like this
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: is setting up a potential romance between these two. What
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I always Susan and I talk about this, but I
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I like that Rory is single in this first season.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: In this season her first year of college. But I
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: want to see her dating more so, Like I would
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: have liked at the end of that confrontation in the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: dining hall for him to like ask her out or something.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: But I feel like that keeps happening, where like she
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: tries to say something and then it goes nowhere, like
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: you know, the guy who was sitting under her tree
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: like things like that, Like it just went nowhere.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Right, you know, nowhere.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just wanted to see more, Like I would
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: have liked to see it developed, maybe at least go
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: out on one date.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: But I like seeing her, you know, with her thick
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: skin and her steely spine confronting him and saying paulitely
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: but with an edge like knock it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Off, yeah, fella, yeah, or else there's.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Going to be trouble in River City and you know
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: it's like, don't mess with me, guy. Yeah. I like
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: that in Rory.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I actually like the scene in the in the classroom
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: as well, when she's like debating with him. I kind
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: of like I like that too.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she's not to be trifled with. No, you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: she's she's changing, she's getting really you know, she's coming
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: into her own yeah, you know, embracing her power.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I love seeing it, you know, I I really enjoy
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I just really so much more enjoy the Yale scenes
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: because I actually visited Yale recently. Yeah, yeah, we were up,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you know. I took the band out on a tour
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and New Haven. We played a place called Toad's Place,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: which is right across the street from the Sterling Library,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the famous Sterling Library, and it's like right there, towering
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: over that street the other side of the street, and
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Yale just you know, dominates that entire small town of
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: New Haven. Uh. And so I went into Sterling. We
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: were there for a couple of days, and so I
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: went into Sterling Library one day and took a little tour.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you could just walk in and you
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: can just walk in.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: That's so cool.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh so you know then the then, of course,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: you know, the it was finals week, right, so the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: students were tons of students in there just reading. Everything
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: was super quiet. You could feel the energy, the the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the the the studying energy of the of these kids
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and it was just great. And then so so got
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: recognized and then took a selfie here and there. I
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: was just like, you know, mine in my own business.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: But then it started. Then it started becoming like a
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: sort of a mini convention where you like, teams of
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: people were taking study breaks into you know.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I met you. So many of those kids watch gil
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: girls who they do.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: They grew up with it, they love it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like their their little dream of going
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to Yell like Rory did. I'm sure.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you something. These were the greatest kids,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and they're all so great and they want to help
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the world. And there's you know, they're studying economics, they're
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: studying political science, engineering. I mean, it just just really
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: great kids. And they were all so so enthusiastic and
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: told me about their experiences discovering the show and watching
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the show and and a lot of them said it's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the reason we picked Yelle because Rory did.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Oh that's so cool.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had. And then I went back the
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: second day because I wanted to see more of the campus.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: And then it was a mini convention again, but but.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I was outside a lot, but still you know, turned
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: into another mini convention, and they took me on tours.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: They they took me. There was a couple of couple
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: of girls took me to the secret part of the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: library that you can only get in if you have
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a pass right. It's it's it's it's the inner bowels
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: of it, the Egyptian Room and places like that, the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Philosophy Room, all the stuff.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: And it was just fascinating.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: It was fascinating to be back there and to have
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: that kind of an access.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I haven't been to a lot inside
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: a library and since I was in college.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Oh it's beautiful. Yeah, Oh, it's just staggering. Miss it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: It's like a museum itself. It's got to old books.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Oh god.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I think I gained maybe five six IQ points just
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: for a couple of hours. Yeah, but then I lost
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: them pretty quickly when I.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: When I when I got back on the point.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: But such great kids. It was so so moving to
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: just be around those but be around that kind of
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: energy you know at these Yeah, and there's you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: there's several universities like this. These kids are so enthusiastic,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: just so great, just so great. I can't wait to
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: go back. I want I should go.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Back every year.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, finals week.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just why not, right, anyway, but a lot of
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: this scenery in this episode reminded me of that library,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like the interiors of the library when they're sitting on
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: those uh those plush chairs as sort of low leather chairs.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: It kind of that's kind of what it looked like
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: on the first floor. So anyway, just a great experience
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: all the way. Yeah, all right, so laundry room guy,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: what do you think potential there getting Let's let's get
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: back to the serious stuff here. I mean, what are
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you saying?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: He kind of seemed like a jerk. I'm not gonna lie.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: He did. He came off like an entitled jerk.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know, not Rory's type. I would
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: have liked to see her maybe go on one day
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: and just go terribly and then she moves on.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's the kind of thing where you know,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: it can be a meeting of the minds. There's a
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: click that happens. It's going really badly and what a
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: jerk and brings out a bad side of her and
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: aggressive side of her. But then but then he tells
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: a little sub story and she starts to sympathize or
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you know, who knows.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I like, how at the end, she was like, because
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: people were turning around when she's confronting him and she's like,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: please don't tell anyone this. I thought that was actually
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: really funny. Half the half the table behind you totally
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: heard the whole thing right.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Right right overall. What did you think of the episode?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I loved it. I thought it was a great episode
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: all around. You got Rory in school, you got Luke
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: and Laurel I. I think it was great. We were
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: just missaying Emily and Richard, but I feel like that's okay.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: You know, I didn't really miss them for this episode.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: They were not needed, Like, I think this stood alone great.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I just like seeing them You're and there bantering.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Very very strong episode, you know, because you've got You've
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: got Rory, Laurel, I, Luke Lane all dealing with stuff. Right,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: it wasn't so spread out. I mean it was four
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: characters who were really like dealing with it. You know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: life was coming out all of them hard. So it
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: was Yeah, it was a great episode.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: And to think that this air This aired in January,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: so this was like the season was back from a
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: holiday break, came full force. They didn't disappoint all right, Well.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: That's going to rap at anything you need? Dad? What
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: what what are you doing with yourself other than the podcast?
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Are you getting like TV offers? Are you I wish
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: film offers? I mean you're famous now, are you recognized?
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: No? No, nope, unless I go to the holidays made
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: here and then I was like, hey, that's the only place. No,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I've just been. I feel like I'm ready to go
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: on a little vacation around this summer. I think my
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: family and I were planning something and then I've just
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: been I have this puppy I got in November, so
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: it's nice keeping me busy, and I've been trying to
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: get to the gym and yeah, just just live a life,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Awesome? Great seeing you again too. Let's not let too
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: much time go by before we do it again.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: You know, I think I did like a season three
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: episode with you, so I feel like, yeah, let's do more.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I miss the old gang.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I do too. I missed the banter. I went on
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: an episode. I did an episode of Gazette with Amy recently,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: and I was like, man, I missed this. We should
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: get back together, and just you know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: We should.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: You know, why don't you run it up to fly.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I'll make a make a couple of phone calls.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Made a couple of calls.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Let me know anyway. Always great to see you, Tara,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: best luck with everything and hope to see you soon.
• 28:13
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• 28:16
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• 28:19
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• 28:22
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• 28:24
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• 28:28
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• 28:30
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• 29:00
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