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Full Show Podcast: 19 December 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issue, the Interviews US and the Inside Andrew Dickens
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Speaker 1: on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
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Speaker 2: It'd be.
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Speaker 3: It's the nineteenth of December. I'm Andrew Dickins work on
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Speaker 3: into the program Christmas. It's so close. Not only can
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Speaker 3: I smell it, I can taste it too. On the
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Speaker 3: program today, Redress for the victims of Late Alice electro
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Speaker 3: shock torture. We're going to survive, talk to a survivor
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Speaker 3: who went through the hell and how he feels about
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Speaker 3: the money. Speaking money. Rowing is the big winner in
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Speaker 3: sports funding, so we're going to talk to the rowers
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Speaker 3: and speaking you money. The Kenningback Senior Economists is going
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Speaker 3: to join us just before six o'clock to give us
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Speaker 3: her pick on the GDP numbers that are out today.
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Speaker 3: As this wonderful slew of economic news comes our way.
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Speaker 3: We've got correspondence from America and run around the country
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Speaker 3: to come and we'll have news as it breaks. And
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Speaker 3: if you want something to say, I have something to say.
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Speaker 3: Ninety two. Ninety two is a text number, small charge,
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Speaker 3: and if you've got more to say, you could always
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Speaker 3: email me Dickens at News Talks FB dot co dot NZ.
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Speaker 3: It is seven after five the agenda, Well is here Thursday,
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Speaker 3: the nineteenth of December. Thank you for choosing US. Russian
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Speaker 3: officials say they have arrested a man for the killing
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Speaker 3: of a top general in Moscow.
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Speaker 4: Investigators in Russia say the twenty nine year old Uzbachman
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Speaker 4: was recruited by Ukrainian special forces, promised one hundred thousand
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Speaker 4: dollars and given permission to move to the EU in
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Speaker 4: return for killing Lieutenant General Igor Kirilov.
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Speaker 3: Well, Russia says it will raise the assassination at the
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Speaker 3: UN Security Council, and that's going to happen this weekend
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Speaker 3: to America, and the US FED is expected to cut
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Speaker 3: rates for the third consecutive time later this morning. Inflation
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Speaker 3: is still an issue in the States. Last month, the
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Speaker 3: CPI rose by two point seven percent. Of course, the
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Speaker 3: Fed has a goal of two percent. That decision on
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Speaker 3: the rates is expected around eight o'clock this morning, hours
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Speaker 3: before New Zealand's GDP numbers are released. Actually, what will
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Speaker 3: happen on the markets? I wonder we'll have more on
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Speaker 3: that just before six. By the way, and to Australia,
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Speaker 3: where the Foreign Minister Penny Wong has announced its embassy
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Speaker 3: in Kiev will be reopened next month. It goes three
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Speaker 3: years ago.
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Speaker 5: We have been working to re establish the security arrangements
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Speaker 5: to enable this to happen, and I'm very pleased to
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Speaker 5: be here to announce the reopening of the Australian embassy.
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Speaker 3: Australia will also provide Ukraine with sixty six million dollars
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Speaker 3: in reconstruction and recovery and ten million dollars for heat
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Speaker 3: and electricity. And that's on top of the one point
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Speaker 3: three billion dollars in aid. So i'll see, I'll read
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Speaker 3: that one more time. Australia gives one point three billion
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Speaker 3: dollars in aid to the Ukraine. They've got a bit
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Speaker 3: of dang, haven't they. And finally, oh yes, the battle
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Speaker 3: against climate change is going well. The toxic levels of
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Speaker 3: air pollution have returned to Delhi, an expert warning the
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Speaker 3: impacts could be worse than the pandemic. Quality levels have
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Speaker 3: reached thirty five times over what the World Health Organization
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Speaker 3: concedes as safe. I'll read that one more time too,
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Speaker 3: thirty five times higher than the safe level. This has
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Speaker 3: been an ongoing problem for Delhi, a crop burning a
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Speaker 3: big driver of the pollution. It's nine after five.
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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early
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Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
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Speaker 3: So welcome to our new fast track world. This is
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Speaker 3: where parliamentarians have been given the right to approve projects
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Speaker 3: they reckon good for the country. Last night Chris Bishop
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Speaker 3: was talking to Ryan on the Drive Show and he
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Speaker 3: was talking about what they originally had. He referred to
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Speaker 3: himself and Sibby and Brown and Shane Jones as the Troika,
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Speaker 3: and I had to laugh. Troyker is a Russian word
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Speaker 3: referring to three parties being a ruling body, and those
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Speaker 3: three under the original legislation were a ruling body. So
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Speaker 3: he knew right from the start the remarkable power he
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Speaker 3: was giving himself. But that power has been watered down
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Speaker 3: a little bit to stop people using words like troykp Chris.
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Speaker 3: But anyway, but the underlying concern about the ultimate power
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Speaker 3: that rests and parliamentarians for making these sorts of decisions
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Speaker 3: continue because we all know projects that have been disasters
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Speaker 3: We all know projects that have contained unintended consequences. We
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Speaker 3: know projects that have favored investors and not the community.
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Speaker 3: Were also aware of many projects run by cowboys that
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Speaker 3: we regretted. We know of suburbs built in flood zones.
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Speaker 3: We know of dams built in unstable land, various INFI
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Speaker 3: nightmare up and down the country, and environmentally affecting runoffs
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Speaker 3: from industry that have poisoned our waterways. And all that
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Speaker 3: happened when regulation was in place. But now well, regulation
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Speaker 3: is still in place, but the ministers and the parliamentarians
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Speaker 3: get the final word after consultation. I remember talking to
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Speaker 3: a s city planner in Auckland and this guy said,
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Speaker 3: there's a handful of developers in the city who get
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Speaker 3: their consents in a month every time. Why because their
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Speaker 3: application is We're perfect and compliant from the get go.
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Speaker 3: Many others go back and forth and then start to
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Speaker 3: complain about the level of red tape as they try
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Speaker 3: to circumvent the rules. These days, construction costs are worse
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Speaker 3: than legal costs, so any corners they can cut in
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Speaker 3: the planning process they will cut. However, like everybody, I
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Speaker 3: totally understand that we went far too far the other way,
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Speaker 3: and we totally need to be able to progress and
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Speaker 3: to get stuff down. So you have to support the
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Speaker 3: new act and hope that you know they do it well.
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Speaker 3: But I would warn the politicians pushing it that bad
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Speaker 3: decisions will affect your legacy. You don't want to be
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Speaker 3: the guy who approved the place that actually ended up
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Speaker 3: breaking down and polluting an entire lake, et cetera. Do
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Speaker 3: you now? And I also warn everybody that politicians and
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Speaker 3: public servants don't have a great track record so far
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Speaker 3: picking the right horses. And if you want an example,
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Speaker 3: how about Solar zero And what happened last week Andrew Dickens.
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Speaker 3: Did you hear this song went back to number one?
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Speaker 3: It's forty years old, Wham and George Michael and they
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Speaker 3: re released it again in the UK, everything's always re
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Speaker 3: released with the streaming ages, gone back to number one
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Speaker 3: because it's a killer. I said to Leo the producer,
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Speaker 3: we need more Christmas music. We haven't done much Christmas music.
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Speaker 3: There's only four more days of working until Christmas. Let's
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Speaker 3: get all christy speaking of Christmas. In the world of politics,
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Speaker 3: optics is everything right. You don't have to be kind, intelligent,
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Speaker 3: decisive or correct, but you're sure as hell have to
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Speaker 3: look like it. Optics are king. You need to avoid
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Speaker 3: a look that everyone is going to comment on if
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Speaker 3: you're in politics, don't you, Which is why when I
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Speaker 3: opened up my paper this morning and I saw the
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Speaker 3: image of the leader of the opposition, Chris Higgins dressed
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Speaker 3: as Satacaus, giving our presence at a Barnado's party yesterday,
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Speaker 3: I found that very entertaining. Lovely stuff he's treating the kids.
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Speaker 3: The Press secretary said, the optics on this must be fantastic.
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Speaker 3: But then the more cynical of us go, well hoo.
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Speaker 3: Mister Hipkins has been sent to his entire political life,
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Speaker 3: given presents to everybody, which is why the country is
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Speaker 3: in the economic situation we find ourselves in today. So
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Speaker 3: maybe Chris, I don't know, I don't know. You look
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Speaker 3: a lovely Christmas and you look a lovely Santa Claus.
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Speaker 3: You're a bit slim, it's fair to say, however, Optics, man, optics,
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Speaker 3: it's five point fourteen. Jim Goodwin is a survivor from
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Speaker 3: Lake Alice. Lake Alis is where they did electroshock therapy
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Speaker 3: on people who were not mentally ill, multiple multiple times.
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Speaker 3: It has been defined as torture by the UN. So
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Speaker 3: Jim is going to get some money after yesterday's announcements.
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Speaker 3: How does he feel about well? Jim is joining here
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Speaker 3: on newsk set B on.
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Speaker 1: Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and applying
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Speaker 3: Zeb B five sixteen. Following the Royal Commission into Abuse
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Speaker 3: and State Care, Lake Alice survivors finally have certainty with
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Speaker 3: a redress scheme announced by the Minister Erica Stamford says.
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Speaker 3: Each survivor will receive a minimum of one hundred and
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Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars and a one off payment, or they
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Speaker 3: can choose to go through an individual payment process which
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Speaker 3: will see each claim independently assessed to determine the amount paid.
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Speaker 3: And you'd hope maybe you might get some more money
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Speaker 3: for that more recompense. Twenty two point six ' eight
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Speaker 3: million has been set aside for this redress process. A
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Speaker 3: new written apology will be issued, as well as access
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Speaker 3: to support and rehab services. Jim Goodwin is a Lake
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Speaker 3: Alie survivor and joins me now.
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Speaker 2: Jim Hello, Hello, I'm not a Light Dalice survivor.
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Speaker 3: Yes you are, You're not.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not a Lake Alice survivor. Oh yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well why are we talking to you? Then?
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Speaker 2: H You guys got to me because I was involved
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Speaker 2: in the Royal commercial I was a survivor advisory group
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Speaker 2: for the Royal commercialer.
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Speaker 3: Oh very good.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: So how other survivors feeling about this redress package.
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Speaker 2: Well, from watching the media, some of them are pretty angry.
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Speaker 3: Well could you explain? Could you explain for the people?
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Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, explain explain to everyone why
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Speaker 3: they might be angry. Explain for everybody why greater redress
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Speaker 3: is necessary, and also explain how this is a documented
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Speaker 3: case of torture done by New Zealand and recognized by
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Speaker 3: the UN.
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Speaker 2: It's right, it is a documented case of torture. And
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Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for the Lake Alice survivors,
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Speaker 2: but I get why they're angry because they've spent their
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Speaker 2: lives being fobbed off, ignored and trying to get what
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Speaker 2: they're finally getting. Now get that they're still angry and
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Speaker 2: saying that this is not good enough. Also, this has
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Speaker 2: been determined by ministers of the crowd and heads of
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Speaker 2: government department the very people were very people in the
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Speaker 2: very positions that have bobbed them off and ignored them
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Speaker 2: for their lives.
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Speaker 3: They have a choice. They have a choice. Obviously they
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Speaker 3: can go. They can either get one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 3: grand straight up one thing. And you've got to realize
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Speaker 3: a lot of these guys are getting older, you know,
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Speaker 3: and there's time is starting to take if you know
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Speaker 3: what I mean, or they could go through yet another fight,
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Speaker 3: which is, you know, an individual payment process where an
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Speaker 3: arbit decides that they might deserve more. How many do
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Speaker 3: you think we'll take that choice.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what the numbers of like Olie survivors
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Speaker 2: are now, because, as you say, they some of them
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Speaker 2: are dying and being a survivor or social into life,
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Speaker 2: so particularly after what they've been through, So I don't
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Speaker 2: know how many will keep fighting. It sounds to me,
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Speaker 2: it reads to me like one hundred and fifty grand
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Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean an end to it. It seems to
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Speaker 2: me that one hundred and fifty thousand is we'll give
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Speaker 2: you one hundred and fifty thousand. If you want to
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Speaker 2: want more later, we'll look at that. I don't think
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Speaker 2: this is a full and final settlement. That's my reading
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Speaker 2: of it.
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Speaker 3: Andrew Jim, I thank you for your time this morning,
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Speaker 3: and thank you for all your support of those survivors
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Speaker 3: who have been through hell. The Row Commission made one
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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty eight recommendations. Christopher Luxen said the government
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Speaker 3: has either completed or was progressing twenty eight of them
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Speaker 3: so far. So maybe time is of the essence. So
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Speaker 3: maybe this redress has coming quite about quickly so that
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Speaker 3: there's something happening, And as Jim suggests, perhaps there might
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Speaker 3: be more a bit later on. But at the same time,
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Speaker 3: remember our financial situation. A national remembrance today will be
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Speaker 3: held on November the twelfth next year to mark the
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Speaker 3: one year anniversary of the apology. And here's another one.
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister yesterday committed to work to remove street names,
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Speaker 3: public amenities and public honors that highlighted the proven perpetrators. Wow,
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Speaker 3: it's five twenty rowing is rowing officially the biggest sport
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Speaker 3: in New Zealand certainly the one getting the most money.
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Speaker 3: We're talking to the rowers.
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Speaker 1: Next, News and Views you Trust to start your day.
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Speaker 1: It's early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New
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Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture bids and applying store news talks.
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Speaker 3: Di'd be At the beginning of the program, I talked
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Speaker 3: about the new fast track process and how Parliamentarians now
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Speaker 3: have a remarkable amount of power to approve stuff, and
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Speaker 3: I just warned that, you know, sometimes they go and
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Speaker 3: get it wrong, probably more often get it wrong than
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Speaker 3: under the current regime. Paul's written back and said, are
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Speaker 3: you seriously suggesting that we never do anything in case
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Speaker 3: it goes wrong? No? I didn't say that, but I
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Speaker 3: just said a warning. Meanwhile, he says that Sola zero
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Speaker 3: had a stupid business model and a stupid investment. Everyone
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Speaker 3: was sucked in thinking it had government support as a
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Speaker 3: green initiative. No, that's the problem anyway. Five two three
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Speaker 3: Rowing is the big winner from the funding given out
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Speaker 3: by a high performance sport and therefore Simon Wickham from Rowing,
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Speaker 3: New Zealand here is the CEO, joins us on the program.
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Speaker 3: Congratulations mate, you must be the biggest sport in the land.
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Speaker 6: Welly, Andrew, we're pretty pleased with the outcome. We're thankful
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Speaker 6: for every dollar of support we get from both you know,
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Speaker 6: New Zealand taxpayers through high performance sport in New Zealand
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Speaker 6: and many donors and supporters behind us. And you know
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Speaker 6: our sites are said on Los Angeles in twenty twenty
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Speaker 6: eight and Brisbane in twenty thirty two.
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Speaker 3: Does this level of funding come with great pressure?
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Speaker 6: There's always great pressure in the system. I think we've
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Speaker 6: certainly delivered good return on investment today having one twenty
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Speaker 6: five percent of all the medals New Zealand's one since
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Speaker 6: Sydney two thousand, but that certainly creates more pressure as well.
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Speaker 2: There's there's legacy.
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Speaker 6: History behind the sport and equally there's a real challenge
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Speaker 6: moving forward to take on the likes of Great Britain,
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Speaker 6: Australia et cetera. Most but the countries have got at
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Speaker 6: least double the support that we've got.
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Speaker 3: It's not though about medals, is it because it's also
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Speaker 3: about the sport And are you seeing this level of
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Speaker 3: support resonate in increased numbers of participation.
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Speaker 6: Well, a really good example from the last weekend we
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Speaker 6: had the largest regatta at Cadapiro ever in history. Over
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Speaker 6: twenty seven hundred athletes took part and we're definitely seeing
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Speaker 6: it at both ends we're seeing it obviously with people
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Speaker 6: like the Golden Mums Brook and Lucy in Paris, and
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Speaker 6: we're seeing it from all sorts of people now taking
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Speaker 6: part in rowing and its numbers are definitely growing.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is all great, du Is. Congratulations mate. You
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Speaker 3: know how I originally said it's not about the medals, Yes, sure, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it is actually about the medals. You better win a
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Speaker 3: whole heat.
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Speaker 6: Well, we've got a team that's certainly up for the
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Speaker 6: challenge and we need every bit of funding out there
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Speaker 6: to support those athletes and coaches that do what they
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Speaker 6: do every day at this time of the morning to
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Speaker 6: put themselves on track to do it again. Exact, Los Angeles,
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty eight.
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Speaker 3: Well done and that is Simon Wickham Rowing New Zealand CEO. Yes,
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Speaker 3: that time of the morning. They all trained very very early.
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Speaker 3: This is why I didn't do the sport. Also a
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Speaker 3: total absence of upper body strength.
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Speaker 3: Me New sid B five twenty seven. Round about this
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Speaker 3: time yesterday we were expecting Steve Armitage from Hospitality in
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Speaker 3: New Zealand on the show, but it didn't pick up,
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Speaker 3: which I mentioned repeatedly this was because of mixed wires.
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Speaker 3: We thought we were talking to him, They thought we
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Speaker 3: were supposed to be talking to someone else. So poor
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Speaker 3: of Steve didn't have a clue that we were phoning him,
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Speaker 3: and he was blissfully asleep while I was sitting there
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Speaker 3: to say pick up Steve. So I'd just like to
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Speaker 3: apologize to Steve. Wasn't your fault? Just mix wires. There
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Speaker 3: now two million feral cats. That's the horrific number that
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Speaker 3: came out of the debate on Celia way Brown's bill
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Speaker 3: to control our cat population. We have two million feral
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Speaker 3: cats wandering around eating too. All domestic cats under Celia's
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Speaker 3: bill will have to be microship and registered. The bill
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Speaker 3: makes it over the line. It stops short of compulsory
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Speaker 3: desexing for companion cats. The aim of the bill is
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Speaker 3: to improve animal welfare and protect native wildlife. The debate
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Speaker 3: has erupted in different regions at local level for many
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Speaker 3: years now, and this is different though, because this is nationwide,
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Speaker 3: this is the government, and it's in Parliament, and this
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Speaker 3: is a motive topic. And I know because I've done
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Speaker 3: talk back about this. Cat lovers really really really really
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Speaker 3: really really love cats, and when you start talking about
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Speaker 3: killing moggies or microsipping morggis and people get a bit upset.
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Speaker 3: I remember one debate when we heard of a kindly
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Speaker 3: lady who would feed hundreds of feral cats living in
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Speaker 3: a park and Parnell she loved the moggies, but the
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Speaker 3: moggie is still like to hunt, and no matter how
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Speaker 3: much he fed them. When confronted with the damage she
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Speaker 3: was doing, she had many others were outraged at the
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Speaker 3: accusation you can't let these poor cats die. But the
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Speaker 3: proof of the problem putting is that that figure of
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Speaker 3: two million feral cats, it's a small army, and it
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Speaker 3: exists because of the irresponsibility of owners, and not just
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Speaker 3: one or two owners, hundreds of thousands of owners. So
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Speaker 3: many New Zealanders fail to grasp the responsibility of pet ownership.
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Speaker 3: And I never understood the complaints when you're told there
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Speaker 3: are more stringent rules over the ownership of cats. These
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Speaker 3: are living beings. It's a big deal. We know that
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Speaker 3: for kids, we know that for dogs, we know that
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Speaker 3: for guns. So I see no problem with microchipping your cat.
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Speaker 3: I did that seventeen years ago with my dog. Labradoodle
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Speaker 3: called Safie, God Rest her soul. Cats, dogs and guns
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Speaker 3: are not a right, they are a privilege, Dickens. So
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Speaker 3: goodness me, there's a strike at Amazon. There can't be
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Speaker 3: a strike at Amazon. It's Christmas. What's going to happen
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Speaker 3: to our presents? So we're going to join Tony Waterson
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Speaker 3: a bit later on from the United States of America
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Speaker 3: and we going right around the country here on early edition,
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Speaker 3: I'm Andrew Dickens. This is News Talks.
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Speaker 2: It be.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on an early edition with Smith City, New
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Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Bids and Appliant Store News Dogs. It be.
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Speaker 3: As old. Poor McCartney, he's still touring. Man is eighty two,
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Speaker 3: and I was thinking about him the other day because
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Speaker 3: he lost Linda quite early on. Then he had that
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Speaker 3: other wife one with only one leg that didn't go well.
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Speaker 3: But he continues to play all the way through. He's
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Speaker 3: just such a champion. Said he didn't play New Zealand
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Speaker 3: and his world tour. What's that about, Paul? We're here,
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Speaker 3: we're waiting. Grant writes to me, cats need to be
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Speaker 3: sorted out, but get rid of cats and other pieces
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Speaker 3: like rabbits explode fair point exactly right. Remember see the
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Speaker 3: way Brown's bill doesn't say get rid of cats. It
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Speaker 3: says that if you have a cat, you've got to
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Speaker 3: get it micro tripped and registered. Then again, who's going
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Speaker 3: to police all that? But maybe it's just it's symbolic.
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Speaker 3: It's trying to get you to care for the cats
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Speaker 3: so you don't actually have thousands of kittens and then
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Speaker 3: go and dump them down down the park and then
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Speaker 3: wonder why suddenly there's no birds. On the subject of animals,
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Speaker 3: the farmer, the pig, poacher and the pigs. What a story.
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Speaker 3: The trial of seventy seven year old Stuart Campbell Edmundson.
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Speaker 3: It's underway in the Hamilton High Court. There better some
19:12
Speaker 3: debate about where to hold this trial because of the
19:15
Speaker 3: difficulty of getting a jury of his peers, because apparently
19:18
Speaker 3: all the locals and Coromandel are very supportive of Stuart.
19:22
Speaker 3: But here's another question. What's happening to the pigs. So
19:25
Speaker 3: there are hundreds of wild pigs on Stuart's farm. They
19:28
Speaker 3: roam the property on the Corimandal Peninsula and he feeds them.
19:33
Speaker 3: He's renowned both locally and internationally for his deep of
19:37
Speaker 3: affinity with these pigs. They're described as semi wild and
19:40
Speaker 3: they've all gathered on his family property for decades because
19:42
Speaker 3: they obviously got up amongst each other and go, we're.
19:44
Speaker 7: Safe there, We're safe there, and Stewart will feed us, and.
19:47
Speaker 3: So whole families and pigs go and live on this
19:49
Speaker 3: coromand of farm. Now the pigs do not legally belong
19:52
Speaker 3: to Edmondson. They are classified as wild animals. He raises
19:56
Speaker 3: them as if they were family. So now we have
19:58
Speaker 3: a fundraising page set up to support the pigs and
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Speaker 3: Stuart Ebinson's legal costs. A man of gentle nature and
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Speaker 3: compassion who is accused of murdering a pig poacher A
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Speaker 3: forty one year old so fascinating story twenty two to six.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to Otago. Jamie Cunningham, good morning, good morning.
20:21
Speaker 3: There's a new initiative for South into Otago Hospitals.
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Speaker 2: What is it?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, this Takuga initiative aims to bridge the cultural
20:28
Speaker 8: gap when dealing with patients who've died. In Ta Kunga Maori,
20:31
Speaker 8: a body becomes tapu or sacred when a person dies,
20:35
Speaker 8: and it can be inappropriate to use the same medical
20:37
Speaker 8: tools as used for the living. A working group has
20:40
Speaker 8: created boxes named Ipu Mariie with separate steph scopes and
20:45
Speaker 8: pen torches, as well as a wooden bowl for ritual cleansing.
20:49
Speaker 8: Water Registrar doctor Y Martemar Martinez, who's it provides something
20:54
Speaker 8: culturally important to staff all a patient's faro while raising
20:58
Speaker 8: others awareness of cultural practices.
21:01
Speaker 3: Excellent. How's your weather?
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Speaker 8: It's cloudy with patchy drizzle with rain developing this evening,
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Speaker 8: northeastlies and a high of seventeen.
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Speaker 3: I knew it couldn't last, Jamie, Thank you so much.
21:11
Speaker 3: Close hereward from Canterbury.
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Speaker 9: Hello, good morning.
21:14
Speaker 3: Some guy drove through a black bill gull colony.
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Speaker 9: Yes well, a North Canterary man has been fined six
21:21
Speaker 9: thousand dollars for doing that. Andrew he deliberately drove through
21:24
Speaker 9: a colony which was on his property. Clive Gordon has
21:27
Speaker 9: been sentenced. He used a ute and also a fourteen
21:30
Speaker 9: ton digger to go through a one thousand strong nesting
21:34
Speaker 9: colony at his place in Belfast. This happened in November
21:37
Speaker 9: of last year. Department of Conservation MAHANUI Operations manager Andy
21:42
Speaker 9: Thompson says the abandoning of a colony this size is
21:45
Speaker 9: a significant blow for the species, which is declining faster
21:48
Speaker 9: than it can breed. Thompson says they'll be responding very
21:51
Speaker 9: seriously to any incident like this one.
21:54
Speaker 3: Wow.
21:55
Speaker 2: Yes.
21:55
Speaker 3: Indeed, during the recent Bird of the Year competition, people
21:58
Speaker 3: were saying, believe it or not, seagulls are endangered. How's
22:01
Speaker 3: the weather in Canterbury?
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Speaker 9: Swooping me this morning as a part my car Andrew,
22:04
Speaker 9: But anyway, Ryan developing this morning in christ Church, souther
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Speaker 9: leaves in the high of seventeen.
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Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much. Mex Toll from Willington. Hello,
22:11
Speaker 3: good morning, so Pei, Peter Oni. That's right.
22:16
Speaker 10: So much this year about name changes suburbs, streets, towns
22:20
Speaker 10: changing their name, typically from a paquiha name back to
22:23
Speaker 10: its original mali four or changing the spelling, adding or
22:26
Speaker 10: removing an A or a macron a Wellington no exception.
22:29
Speaker 10: The mayor here in the city, Tori Fano, even arranged
22:32
Speaker 10: a media event for one small streets in Adoor Valley
22:36
Speaker 10: changing its name. The biggest though for the region this
22:38
Speaker 10: year was supposed to be Petoni changing to pet Ornie
22:42
Speaker 10: it sounds like a very mild change, and it looks
22:44
Speaker 10: like relatively mild change on paper. Pato space o ne
22:49
Speaker 10: but an important one to Ewe and Harpoot Pittoni was
22:53
Speaker 10: apparently a misspelling by settlers. There's a little confusion around that.
22:57
Speaker 10: Both roughly translate to the end of the Sandy Beach
23:01
Speaker 10: Land Information Minister Chris pink has had the final sign
23:03
Speaker 10: off and said no thanks to changing it officially, disappointing
23:07
Speaker 10: the majority of the Hut City Council and Mayor Campbell Barry,
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Speaker 10: who told us it's not going to stop them trying
23:13
Speaker 10: to ensure that place names reflect history culture. Chris Pank
23:17
Speaker 10: himself says he looked at a range of submissions involving history,
23:21
Speaker 10: minimizing disruption and removing ambiguity.
23:25
Speaker 3: Yes, and it's also what they basically campaigned on. So
23:27
Speaker 3: he's saying on brand, whether it's right or wrong. So
23:30
Speaker 3: how's your weather?
23:32
Speaker 2: Not good? Rain?
23:33
Speaker 10: Strong, southerly's fifteen the high.
23:35
Speaker 3: As you had a text on this earlier, Peter Onie,
23:37
Speaker 3: what a monumental line. There has never been a Malori
23:39
Speaker 3: spelling because the Maoris have no written language, no alphabet no,
23:42
Speaker 3: but they have a verbal language, and normally they say
23:45
Speaker 3: Peter onie, but it became patonic because we're bazy. We
23:51
Speaker 3: just contracted it to walk. Came we go. Wendy Petrick, Hello, Hello, Hello,
23:55
Speaker 3: water structure, water infrastructure.
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Speaker 5: It's exciting, isn't it?
23:58
Speaker 3: Water structure. I just invented a new word, you did.
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Speaker 3: I like it.
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Speaker 5: So this is water Care progressing on its flood recovery
24:06
Speaker 5: work at Auckland's and White Tackleti Ranges since last year's
24:09
Speaker 5: extreme weather events. You remember, water Care has been constructing
24:12
Speaker 5: retaining walls, rebuilding pipe bridges damaged by slips across the
24:15
Speaker 5: Western Catchment. It's finished now five of the nine major projects,
24:20
Speaker 5: and they say they plan to have another one done
24:22
Speaker 5: by Christmas. They also they are going to have a
24:24
Speaker 5: projects within the White Tacklei Ranges completed by mid next year.
24:27
Speaker 5: So they want to make it easier to get our
24:30
Speaker 5: water safe and running well before fabious. And how's the weather, Well,
24:35
Speaker 5: it's just so easy today. It's a fine day. There's
24:37
Speaker 5: nothing more to say. It's a fine day. There's some
24:39
Speaker 5: southwesternies and there's a twenty four degree high.
24:41
Speaker 3: Sour westers, though they're cold. I don't like sour Westerns. Oh,
24:45
Speaker 3: thank you. It is seventeen to six. Yesterday was depressing,
24:49
Speaker 3: wasn't it? With all the news about our economy and
24:51
Speaker 3: what's going to happen and weather. Here we are. We've
24:54
Speaker 3: been trying to survive to twenty five, but it looks
24:56
Speaker 3: like twenty five is going to be a bit crappy,
24:59
Speaker 3: and so there I'll just hang on to twenty six
25:01
Speaker 3: and then twenty nine and then maybe we won't have
25:03
Speaker 3: a surplace in the year twenty three. It was all
25:05
Speaker 3: just a bit depressing, wasn't it. And then wouldn't you
25:07
Speaker 3: know it? Today the GDP figures come out and what
25:10
Speaker 3: are you thinking it's going to happen? There can't be good,
25:13
Speaker 3: can it. Anyway, we will talk to the Kiwibank senior
25:16
Speaker 3: economists on her picks that what's happening with the economy.
25:19
Speaker 3: Before six o'clock, we're off to America. Next to is
25:22
Speaker 3: sixteen to.
25:23
Speaker 1: Six International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
25:28
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business to.
25:31
Speaker 3: The United States of America. We go in Austin and Texas.
25:34
Speaker 3: It's Tony Waterman, hell at Toney, good morning. So the
25:38
Speaker 3: GOP one to prosecute a Republican who investigated Trump in
25:44
Speaker 3: the January sixth Capital riots. So this is a growing
25:47
Speaker 3: list of enemies that Trump might go after.
25:50
Speaker 7: Yeah, it certainly is. So this has to do with
25:52
Speaker 7: Liz Cheney.
25:53
Speaker 11: She was the vice chair of that committee that investigated
25:56
Speaker 11: Trump's role in the January sixth attack on the US Capitol,
25:59
Speaker 11: and her fellow Republicans have been investigating that committee for
26:04
Speaker 11: months now, and there was this interim report that was
26:06
Speaker 11: released on Tuesday, and they claim that she likely broke
26:11
Speaker 11: a number of federal laws, including allegations of witness tampering
26:15
Speaker 11: and essentially convincing a witness to lie. And they now
26:19
Speaker 11: are calling on the FBI to investigate her. The thing
26:23
Speaker 11: is is that Trump has nominated loyalists to run not
26:27
Speaker 11: only the FBI, but also the Justice Department. Of course,
26:30
Speaker 11: the incoming president has repeatedly and strongly hinted that he
26:35
Speaker 11: wants to go after his political enemies. Liz Cheney, who
26:38
Speaker 11: was the daughter of a former Vice President of the
26:42
Speaker 11: United States, Dick Cheney. She has come out and blasted
26:44
Speaker 11: this report saying that it is full of lies and
26:48
Speaker 11: just completely ignores Trump's role in the riots.
26:52
Speaker 3: So he wants to do what he's accusing them of
26:55
Speaker 3: doing to him. So there's a pot calling the kittle black. Hey,
26:58
Speaker 3: so Mary, Christmas zon Zone strike.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: So these are some strikes that have been authorized at
27:05
Speaker 11: a number of Amazon facilities in New York, Illinois, and
27:09
Speaker 11: in southern California. And some of these are actually quite
27:12
Speaker 11: crucial hubs. So, for example, the San Bernardino location in
27:16
Speaker 11: southern California is Amazon's largest air hub in the Western US,
27:21
Speaker 11: with more than a thousand workers. So if these strikes
27:24
Speaker 11: actually happen in the next week, it could have just
27:27
Speaker 11: a major impact on the movement of packages across the
27:30
Speaker 11: entire country, just a week before Christmas and Honokoh, which
27:33
Speaker 11: is the biggest gift giving holidays in the US. So
27:37
Speaker 11: these workers are calling for better wages, benefits, and working conditions.
27:41
Speaker 11: The problem is is that Amazon is refusing to recognize
27:45
Speaker 11: the union that is representing these workers. So things are
27:49
Speaker 11: at a bit of a stalemate. So at the end
27:51
Speaker 11: of the day, you know, it's perhaps going to be
27:53
Speaker 11: Santa that's going to have to do a bit more
27:55
Speaker 11: of the heavy lifting this Christmas.
27:56
Speaker 3: Great Stefan, I thank you that, as Teddy would have
27:58
Speaker 3: been out of the United States of America. Meanwhile, in space,
28:01
Speaker 3: remember those guys Sunny Williams and Butch Wilmore who went
28:04
Speaker 3: up to the International Space Station for eight days. They
28:06
Speaker 3: went up there in June. They were due to be
28:09
Speaker 3: back after a week, but it turns out that their spacecraft,
28:12
Speaker 3: the star Line are built by Boeing, wasn't up to it.
28:15
Speaker 3: And then they said to him, oh, you know how,
28:16
Speaker 3: you're going to come back in a week. Now, you're
28:18
Speaker 3: going to come back in months. You're going to come
28:19
Speaker 3: back in February. Guess what they got for Christmas? Yesterday
28:23
Speaker 3: they were told that, oh, sorry, actually you're not coming
28:25
Speaker 3: back until next March or April. They went up in
28:28
Speaker 3: June for a week, they're not coming back until March
28:31
Speaker 3: or April. Horrific. It's eleven to six, all right. Continuing
28:37
Speaker 3: this week's economic theme of dark economic times, GDP numbers
28:41
Speaker 3: are out later this morning. Not expected to be good.
28:44
Speaker 3: All of our banks are expecting. Our economy contracted in
28:46
Speaker 3: Q three by about point three down to point four,
28:49
Speaker 3: which is er point three to point four percent, which
28:52
Speaker 3: would put the country back into a recession for the
28:55
Speaker 3: I don't know third time. I'm not sure, Mary Joe
28:58
Speaker 3: Vigara is is the keep we bag senior economists and
29:01
Speaker 3: joins you. Now, how are Mary, Joe Modernna?
29:04
Speaker 12: How are you?
29:04
Speaker 3: I'm good? What do you reckon? Is it going to be?
29:06
Speaker 3: Is it going to be another recession?
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Speaker 12: That is what we're picking. We're picking a return to
29:11
Speaker 12: a technical recession. So that would be a point three
29:14
Speaker 12: percent contraction over the September quarter that follows another contraction
29:18
Speaker 12: over June.
29:19
Speaker 3: You know, yesterday when we had all this dismal news
29:22
Speaker 3: out of Hayefu, there were two types of people that
29:24
Speaker 3: we talked to. One are going, yeah, well, times are tough,
29:27
Speaker 3: but there are green sprouts in the economy.
29:29
Speaker 12: You know.
29:29
Speaker 3: They had some optimism and there is others that went, well,
29:32
Speaker 3: we'll be paying for this by our children and our
29:34
Speaker 3: children's children and their children's children. And we're down the Googler.
29:37
Speaker 3: Where do you stand?
29:39
Speaker 12: I think for the economy, next year should be a
29:42
Speaker 12: better year. So we're a bit more optimistic. But you know,
29:44
Speaker 12: you'd say it's optimus back. It's just realistic. We've been
29:48
Speaker 12: in a recession for the last two years, especially on
29:50
Speaker 12: a per capita basis, But there is a bank now
29:53
Speaker 12: cutting interest rates that should you know, start to see
29:56
Speaker 12: gals return in the second half of next year in
29:59
Speaker 12: terms of the you know sis outlook at words, deteriorate it.
30:03
Speaker 12: And that's just following the pattern of what we've seen
30:06
Speaker 12: in the last few years.
30:07
Speaker 3: What about international pressures, because the fairs are picking to
30:10
Speaker 3: they're going to be cutting the rates. It sounds like
30:12
Speaker 3: as well, could that help us?
30:14
Speaker 12: Yeah, when the global economy improves, we do too. We're
30:18
Speaker 12: a small, open economy, so we're heavily reliant on what
30:21
Speaker 12: happens overseas. So when that starts to pick up, which
30:24
Speaker 12: we do expect next year, it's another reason why we
30:27
Speaker 12: expect clothes in New Zealand to pick up as well.
30:29
Speaker 12: Obviously it helps our exporters in that regard.
30:34
Speaker 3: What about the issue of productivity. I mean, while we
30:36
Speaker 3: all blame the government for where we are at, private
30:39
Speaker 3: debt far exceeds public and government debt, and we are,
30:43
Speaker 3: of course the business community and it's up to us
30:46
Speaker 3: to actually get our productivity up. How can we do this?
30:49
Speaker 3: How can we help?
30:51
Speaker 12: Oh, it's definitely just an infrastructure story. We've just under
30:54
Speaker 12: arrested an infrastructure for I don't even know how long
30:58
Speaker 12: and that has been you know, harboring our productivity. We
31:02
Speaker 12: really need to lift that. It's part of the reason
31:04
Speaker 12: why we've had recession so tough. Yes, we've employed a
31:08
Speaker 12: lot of people, but our layer productivity is very poor.
31:11
Speaker 12: That's part of the reason why we've had such a
31:12
Speaker 12: volatile a few years.
31:15
Speaker 3: And is government the cutting of government spending Is that
31:18
Speaker 3: a silver bullet or do we need much more, much
31:22
Speaker 3: more weapons in our arsenal.
31:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
31:24
Speaker 12: I think government spending it needs to be directed into
31:27
Speaker 12: that productivity space, into that infrastructure, you know, building new roads,
31:31
Speaker 12: building hospitals and schools and all of that. That'll I
31:36
Speaker 12: think in a time of recession you need the government
31:39
Speaker 12: to kind of come in and boost boosts the economy.
31:43
Speaker 12: And cutting and cutting, you know, spending it kind of
31:47
Speaker 12: just makes the situation bit worse.
31:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much, Mary, Joe Vegata. And that's
31:51
Speaker 3: pretty similar to what Cameron Vagri said at the beginning
31:54
Speaker 3: of the week and said, yes, we do have to
31:55
Speaker 3: cut government spending, but at the same time we also
31:57
Speaker 3: have to invest. The government has to invest a big player.
32:00
Speaker 3: Look at the construction industry. You know, they invest in
32:03
Speaker 3: school buildings and hospitals, et cetera. And then that money
32:07
Speaker 3: ends out in the hands of the construction industry. Look
32:09
Speaker 3: what's happened to the construction industry as we've cut down
32:12
Speaker 3: on that construction from the government money. So everything is
32:16
Speaker 3: into linked and everything is intertied. And it is now
32:18
Speaker 3: seven to six.
32:21
Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
32:23
Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New
32:27
Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture bids and a flying Store on news Talk said,
32:30
Speaker 1: be after.
32:31
Speaker 3: Talking to Tony Waterston about the actions against Cheney, We've
32:34
Speaker 3: got to correspondent here, says after following Trump for years,
32:37
Speaker 3: who correspondent just lied through her teeth. Donald Trump has
32:40
Speaker 3: maintained he doesn't want to go after anyone. Every interview
32:43
Speaker 3: I've ever listened to Trump since sets success will be
32:46
Speaker 3: his revenge unless anybody has committed a crime. Bloody typical media.
32:50
Speaker 3: That's why he won.
32:51
Speaker 7: Well, that's lock her up, lock her up, lock her up.
32:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, no, no, But he's talking about
32:56
Speaker 3: over the last couple of weeks or so.
32:58
Speaker 7: Change now.
32:58
Speaker 3: So he's changed now, And that's true, But that's not
33:01
Speaker 3: the problem. Really, it's actually all the supporters. It's the
33:04
Speaker 3: GOP who are now actually wanted to do the revenge
33:06
Speaker 3: on his bath. He doesn't need to do a thing, Texter,
33:09
Speaker 3: because he's got enough happy little minions who are prepared
33:12
Speaker 3: to take on Liz Cheney Hanley.
33:14
Speaker 7: You hello to GDP, GDP.
33:17
Speaker 3: I was going to talk talk about that. I was
33:19
Speaker 3: going to I was going to talk about the scuttle
33:20
Speaker 3: but that came out of the Parliamentary Press Gallery party
33:22
Speaker 3: last night featuring some mister Soper esquire.
33:26
Speaker 7: What did you hear?
33:27
Speaker 3: I heard he had a very good naves. He thinks
33:30
Speaker 3: out of character.
33:31
Speaker 7: Don't you think out of character?
33:34
Speaker 3: So you sent him down there?
33:35
Speaker 7: I send, I send, I send all the bad behavior
33:37
Speaker 7: away Now I don't want was this was this.
33:40
Speaker 3: The last blowout before the infamous February? Probably not?
33:43
Speaker 2: Do you know what? Though?
33:44
Speaker 7: Like there is something that happens, and I feel sorry
33:46
Speaker 7: for men because there's something that happens to us as women.
33:49
Speaker 7: Once we start creating, we become incredibly sensible, don't we,
33:53
Speaker 7: And we stopped being the party people that we were,
33:55
Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden, we're just boring old
33:57
Speaker 7: wife at home saying I don't want to I don't
33:59
Speaker 7: want to see you like this, Can you go party
34:01
Speaker 7: somewhere else?
34:02
Speaker 2: Yes?
34:02
Speaker 3: Yes, So I don't want to talk about the GDP.
34:05
Speaker 3: Did you not listen to the radio wall of yesterday and.
34:07
Speaker 7: Just go, ah, look, I mean, here's the good thing.
34:09
Speaker 7: I'm going to give you the good news. Right, we're
34:11
Speaker 7: probably in our third recession in two years, but we're
34:13
Speaker 7: through the worst of it. So there's the good news.
34:16
Speaker 7: Is that from here it's onwards and upwards, and I
34:18
Speaker 7: think we just got to cling to that and try
34:19
Speaker 7: to get ourselves in the Congratulations.
34:21
Speaker 3: Patient, you're still alive, but you need another five years
34:23
Speaker 3: of therapy, a rehabilitation. You can live.
34:26
Speaker 7: You can live, Come bin out.
34:28
Speaker 3: I gotta go. Thank you so much, So you tomorrow.
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