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The Muster Full Show: 05/10/26 · The Muster on Hokonui

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokonui. Andy
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Speaker 1: Muir here and the show is brought to you by
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Speaker 1: Clayton Jeanette and the team of Peter's Genetics. Welcome along
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Speaker 1: to an afternoon that we can finally say for a
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Speaker 1: Monday is blue sky. A little bit of cloud, but
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Speaker 1: I'd say overcast to a point, but the sunshine is
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Speaker 1: around in abundance as well. People getting out and about
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Speaker 1: in T-shirts and shorts. It's great, and it is well appreciated.
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Speaker 1: We'll look at the weather shortly. Big weekend of sport.
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Speaker 1: The Sydney Roosters beat Newcastle in the final of the
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Speaker 1: NRL last night, and deservedly so as well. And a
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Speaker 1: thing of the Warriors, my personal opinion is, if they
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Speaker 1: made the final, they wouldn't have dealt with that power
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Speaker 1: game of the Roosters and perhaps their kicking game as well.
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Speaker 1: David Cherry Evans going out winning his second premiership. The
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Speaker 1: Stags rounding off their year, but not finishing last. That
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Speaker 1: was indeed the Wellington Lions, 0-10 for the year. Stags
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Speaker 1: got a couple of bites of the cherry, got the W.
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Speaker 1: And Liam Lawson as well, flicking between the league final
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Speaker 1: and the Bahrain Grand Prix, that's being held in Malaysia,
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Speaker 1: and Liam finishing seventh. So that's a hell of an occasion.
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Speaker 1: The champions as we carry on is Debbie Harry and Blondie.
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Speaker 2: And this is a thing of beauty for the week.
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Speaker 2: This afternoon, sunshine with light nor'westerlies in 18. Tuesday, cloudy
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Speaker 2: with breezy nor'westerlies.
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Speaker 1: 8 and 18. Wednesday, showers with breezy north-westerlies, 5 and 15.
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Speaker 1: That's the only blip, though. Thursday, partly cloudy with breezy easterlies,
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Speaker 1: 5 and 15. And on Friday, partly cloudy with calm
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Speaker 1: variable winds, 5 and 20. Lap it up. Sword temperatures
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Speaker 1: to hand. Clinton, 9.5. Harriot, 9.3. Te Anau, 10.1. Riverton, 11.5.
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Speaker 1: Te Anau, 10.6. Titaroa, 11.4. Winton, 10.6. And Woodlands at
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Speaker 1: 6.8 as we start the show with Bruce Ede, farming
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Speaker 1: at Kelso in the Sargent Dam Farming Roundup. Eric Roy,
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Speaker 1: the lead up to the polls has begun properly. Eric
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Speaker 1: just talks about what it's like regarding MMP and split
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Speaker 1: votes and everything. A lot of jargon that you're hearing
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Speaker 1: at the moment. Dean Ravage, sheep and beef farmer based
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Speaker 1: at Glenham, talks about the obvious. Tom O'Brien, based out
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Speaker 1: at Garston, talking Yorkshire tea, sunscreen, And steam trains. There's
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Speaker 1: only time to actually text through and say what's going on.
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Speaker 1: And Logan Savory of the Southland Tribune wraps the stag
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Speaker 1: season for one final time as we go and see how,
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Speaker 1: you know, the game on Friday night. Great fireworks display
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Speaker 1: afterwards to wrap out the year. But how did the
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Speaker 1: team go on the pitch? We'll start the hour next
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Speaker 1: with Bruce Seed. Bruce Ede Farms at Kelso and joins
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Speaker 1: us this afternoon in the Sargeant Dan Farming Roundup. Thanks
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Speaker 1: to Sargeant Dan Stock Foods, where we speak to different
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Speaker 1: farmers from around the southern region. And, of course, Sargeant
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Speaker 1: Dan here on Main Street in Gore. Good afternoon, Bruce,
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Speaker 1: but firstly, happy Bathurst Week.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 4: Snuck up.
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Speaker 3: Yep, nah, it'll be good.
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Speaker 5: It'll be good.
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Speaker 3: Nah, it should be exciting. There's been a lot of
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Speaker 3: different winters and a few different scenarios could play out. So, nah,
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Speaker 3: it'll be good afternoon viewing on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: You can hear a few birds chirping in the background,
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Speaker 1: so that's a good start for October.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, October's been far better so far than September,
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Speaker 3: isn't it, if I state the obvious?
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Speaker 1: How's it been at your place, like, ground condition-wise? I mean, without,
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Speaker 1: you know, we all know what the state of play's
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Speaker 1: been like. Has your rainfall figure been something for the ages?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they probably have been. I haven't been keeping a record.
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Speaker 3: I've really been relying on neighbours and things like that
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Speaker 3: that like to put that sort of thing out there. So, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'd it's certainly be top five.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: Top three, maybe, but then they say it was the weirdest,
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Speaker 3: who knows, but got to the point there where I
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Speaker 3: gave up looking in the gauge. Um, just, yeah, throw
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Speaker 3: your boots on and go back out to another day
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Speaker 3: of battle was really what it came down to. Um,
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Speaker 3: so no, it's dried up remarkably well in the last
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Speaker 3: two or three days.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 3: That's for sure. So, um, Yeah, you could not quite
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Speaker 3: say it's a distant memory. There's still a bit of
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Speaker 3: recovery to do yet. But it's bloody good to see
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Speaker 3: the sunshine and a bit of heat.
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Speaker 1: And the grass is growing. That's the thing.
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Speaker 3: The grass is growing. Yeah, no, that's right. And it
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Speaker 3: always was going to. Just the issue was how much
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Speaker 3: damage you'd done between then and now. So it wasn't
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Speaker 3: hard to bloody plough a paddock with a mob of
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Speaker 3: cows on a wet, cold night.
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Speaker 6: So.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a tough one. It didn't take any prisoners.
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Speaker 3: It didn't matter who you were and what you were farming.
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Speaker 3: It was hard going all the way through. So, light
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Speaker 3: at the end of the tunnel. You're talking about petrol heads.
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Speaker 3: There'll be a lot of diesel heads. There'll be a
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Speaker 3: lot of diesel burnt this week anyway, that's for sure,
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Speaker 3: because we've all got a fair bit of catching up
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Speaker 3: to do.
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Speaker 1: You've got a split carving operation there. How has carving gone,
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Speaker 1: weather aside?
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Speaker 3: Weather aside, it's been pretty maintenance-free, shall we say. We've
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Speaker 3: still got about 50-odd to calve, but they'll be tidied
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Speaker 3: up in the next couple of weeks, which has been
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Speaker 3: a slow calving this year, which hasn't been a bad
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Speaker 3: thing considering what the season was like, or the spring,
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Speaker 3: if you want to call it that, was like. So
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Speaker 3: we didn't encounter a huge amount of calves very early on,
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Speaker 3: so it hasn't been easy, but it could have been
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Speaker 3: a lot worse for us.
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Speaker 1: Metabolic issues, have they been any different to other seasons?
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Speaker 3: No, no, we've had a pretty good run. I think
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Speaker 3: I only had two or three down cows the whole
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Speaker 3: way through. And that and a couple of them were
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Speaker 3: known culprits that seemed every year to decide they're going
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Speaker 3: to do something silly. So, no, touch wood. And it's
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Speaker 3: been pretty good and, as I said, fuss-free, really.
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Speaker 1: Supplement-wise, it's pretty intensive of what you're doing there with
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Speaker 1: the shed you've got in place. What are you like
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Speaker 1: as far as resource there?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're... Getting close to the tipping point there. I mean,
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Speaker 3: everyone says, oh, you're lucky you've got that big shed,
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Speaker 3: but the outdoor cows, as we call them, they've been
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Speaker 3: outside the whole time just eating grass and pellets in
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Speaker 3: the cow shed from Sergeant Dan. No real supplement of
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Speaker 3: any sort. We gave them a few bails there early on,
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Speaker 3: but we had to protect what's happening in the barn
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Speaker 3: there with the robot cows and feeding dry cows, so
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Speaker 3: it was a fluid situation most days. I mean, we
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Speaker 3: ran out of straw and... managed to find a couple
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Speaker 3: of small unit loads or part unit loads of rounds
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Speaker 3: and then two weeks ago, yeah, we were on the
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Speaker 3: hunt for a bit more but there was no straw
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Speaker 3: south of Christchurch so we managed to track down one
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Speaker 3: of the last two unit loads of squares of ryegrass
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Speaker 3: straw that May Brothers had up in Canterbury so that
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Speaker 3: tells you how far it had to come. So, unusual
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Speaker 3: that everyone was looking for straw at this time of
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Speaker 3: year but, yeah, it wasn't cheap exercise but it was
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Speaker 3: something that needed to be done and and obviously baleage
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Speaker 3: will be a lot rarer again, and if you could
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Speaker 3: find it, I'd hate to think how much you're having
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Speaker 3: to pay for it. But yeah, it's been a balancing
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Speaker 3: situation for a lot of people. Obviously the feed trucks
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Speaker 3: have all been doing extra time because people have just
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Speaker 3: turned up the dial to try and make up a shortfall,
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Speaker 3: and now we've got to look ahead to having some
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Speaker 3: to make for this incoming year. So we've had about
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Speaker 3: 50 hectares here. earmarked for silage since the start of
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Speaker 3: the season so that was the cows didn't go on
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Speaker 3: that they were never going on that we needed to
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Speaker 3: say that was that was silage and that's what it
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Speaker 3: was so um we've got some in front of us
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Speaker 3: there when the weather does finally come right it grows
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Speaker 3: a bit more to put under a bun.
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Speaker 1: That was a great plug for the sponsor.
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Speaker 7: Before yeah he does a good job yeah how.
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Speaker 1: Long you've been using sergeant dan stuff as such oh.
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Speaker 3: I'd say we've 15-plus years now for the dairy feed
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Speaker 3: and the shed, and prior to that we've been using
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Speaker 3: the calf feed for as long as I can remember,
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Speaker 3: probably from day one when they started. So, no, Daryl
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Speaker 3: does a great product, and they've never let us down,
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Speaker 3: so they do a good job.
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Speaker 1: Look, track to work. It's behind schedule. You do maize there.
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Speaker 1: Are you having to change thinking at all for the
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Speaker 1: upcoming season, or everything's just been delayed?
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Speaker 3: No change of thinking, no, but yeah, we haven't tried any.
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Speaker 3: We're actually singing a chuck in the maxi till on
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Speaker 3: this afternoon and giving a couple of kale paddocks that
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Speaker 3: were in kale during the winter a wee tickle up
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Speaker 3: just to let the air into them. But yeah, the
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Speaker 3: oats that go in after the maize, they probably didn't
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Speaker 3: like the wet as much as we'd like, so they're
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Speaker 3: down on yield, and the calves that are on them
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Speaker 3: are probably three weeks late getting on to them, but
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Speaker 3: that's just nature of the beast this year, so those
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Speaker 3: paddocks have all got to be gone in May in
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Speaker 3: less than a month really so there's a lot to
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Speaker 3: do in a very short time.
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Speaker 1: Feed utilisation as far as the crop paddocks how did
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Speaker 1: that end up?
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Speaker 3: Yeah no it ended up pretty good probably would have
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Speaker 3: liked to have another paddock had another paddock of kale
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Speaker 3: or that but the way it's turned out but who
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Speaker 3: was to know that this was going to carry on
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Speaker 3: like that so you know everything was sort of three
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Speaker 3: weeks behind like I said the calves and the In
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Speaker 3: the barn there, they were out on the oats the
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Speaker 3: start of September last year, and they weren't on until
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Speaker 3: about the 20th this year. So, like I said, three
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Speaker 3: weeks behind.
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Speaker 7: So we've just got to try and jog.
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Speaker 3: That three weeks forward to get everything back to where
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Speaker 3: it needs to be.
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Speaker 1: You're a pretty pragmatic character, to be honest, Bruce. So
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Speaker 1: is it a matter of just seeing what was behind
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Speaker 1: you and looking forward and just being matter-of-fact about how
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Speaker 1: you're going to get stuff done now?
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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's a cliche, you can't change
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Speaker 3: the weather, and if we could, we all would have
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Speaker 3: done it a long time before now, but... that's the
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Speaker 3: joy of farming. Every day is a new adventure and
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Speaker 3: you just have to play what's in front of you.
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Speaker 3: I know we're all looking at the calendar there and
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Speaker 3: it said that, you know, 10 days ago there was
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Speaker 3: a good spell of fine weather coming and we'd all
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Speaker 3: been counting down and counting down and it's come to fruition. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, those first couple of days of sun, it
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Speaker 3: was like a brand new country and the start of
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Speaker 3: the season really started then, in my opinion. Everyone had
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Speaker 3: a spring in their step and a, a better attitude and, and,
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Speaker 3: you know, they say if the sun's shining, everyone's a
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Speaker 3: lot happier and it certainly rings true at the moment.
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Speaker 3: I'll say there's people in worse positions than us, you know, and,
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Speaker 3: you know, you really feel for everybody in this situation. Um, so,
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Speaker 3: you know, you just got to try and make as
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Speaker 3: much as cliche it sounds every post a winner, you know,
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Speaker 3: if there's, you can try and get back those couple
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Speaker 3: of weeks, you know, nobody's scared of sitting on the
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Speaker 3: track around here and, uh, we'll catch it back up,
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Speaker 3: and the farming calendar still rolls on, whether it's wet, dry,
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Speaker 3: or otherwise, so you've just got to make it happen
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Speaker 3: instead of sit around and hope that it happens.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Bruce. Just by the way, have you
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Speaker 1: ever been to Bathurst or harboured ambitions of going?
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Speaker 3: I haven't been to the race, but I have. I
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Speaker 3: was on a trip there a good 15-odd years ago,
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Speaker 3: and I did do a burnout on Pitt Street in
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Speaker 3: the rental car. But, yeah, it's an amazing track. I mean,
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Speaker 3: to think it's a public road every other day of
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Speaker 3: the year, you drive around it, it's amazing the undulation
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Speaker 3: in that. So I've never been to it race week,
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Speaker 3: but I don't know if it would be as good
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Speaker 3: as just sitting in front of the TV with a
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Speaker 3: few beers. You get all the replays and you don't
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Speaker 3: have to deal with the flies and the snakes and
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Speaker 3: the spiders.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hell of a muster trip.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, it would be.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, mark that down.
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Speaker 1: Duly noted, Bruce Seed. Thanks for your time as always.
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Speaker 8: Righto, mate.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. We'll see you later.
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Speaker 1: Brew seed of cow sow in the Sargeant Dan Farming Roundup.
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Speaker 1: Thanks to Sargeant Dan. Stock Foods based here in Gore.
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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Muster. Up next, Eric Roy. Let's
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Speaker 1: talk politics. Welcome back to the muster. Eric Roy talks
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Speaker 1: politics on a Monday afternoon. G'day, Eric. You're up in
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Speaker 1: the Te Ania Basin today, and it is warmer than
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Well, that's a no-brainer.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, it wouldn't have to be very warm, but
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Speaker 8: the good thing is it was only 8 mils in
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Speaker 8: the rain gauge for the week, and we've had now
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Speaker 8: three days in a row without rain. So a bit
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Speaker 8: of warmth, you know, temperature in the teens, so we're
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Speaker 8: getting a bit of growth, and... Hopefully, we will just
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Speaker 8: remember the bad patch of September as a memory we
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Speaker 8: dealt with, and it's onwards and upwards from here. They
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Speaker 8: say about the Southern climate, it'll challenge you, but it'll
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Speaker 8: never let you down. Well, it was pretty darn challenging
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Speaker 8: over September, that's for sure.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. What's it like up there at TR now? Is
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Speaker 1: the ground still pretty soggy, I suppose, for want of
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Speaker 1: a term?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I just had a drive over the paddocks.
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Speaker 8: We had kale on for the winter, hoping I'd get
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Speaker 8: the discs going, but it'll be another 10 days without
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Speaker 8: rain before we can do that, I would say, looking
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Speaker 8: at it. So, yep, still pretty wet, but it's improving.
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Speaker 8: And the other good thing, one of my measures when
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Speaker 8: I drive up, I come up on this road and.
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Speaker 8: There was dust on the road today, first time for months,
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Speaker 8: so it's getting drier.
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Speaker 1: That's a Southlander, I suppose. But look, the bigger issue
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Speaker 1: is the election. The countdown is well and truly underway.
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Speaker 1: What are we talking about when it comes to strategic voting?
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Speaker 1: A lot of talk amongst political parties at the moment
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Speaker 1: about having a strategy when you're at the ballot box.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well.
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Speaker 8: It's getting a bit of currency. It started with the
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Speaker 8: Maori Party, and now the Malbraith team are saying the
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Speaker 8: right coalition needs to employ the same thing. Well, all
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Speaker 8: I can say is there's huge risk. And the assumption
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Speaker 8: they're running on is that National are going to win
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Speaker 8: the majority of the seats in the electorates, and therefore
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Speaker 8: two ticks is a wasted vote. the difficulty you've got
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Speaker 8: is there's no guarantee that's actually going to happen. When
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Speaker 8: they do polling, it kind of shows up that there's
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Speaker 8: a significant percentage of people haven't made their mind up.
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Speaker 8: And over years, I've watched exit polls, which they do
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Speaker 8: when people finish voting, and sometimes there are 17% of
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Speaker 8: the people don't actually know what they're doing until they
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Speaker 8: pick up the orange pen. And so to say, well,
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Speaker 8: here's a strategy that everybody understands, on top of deciding
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Speaker 8: whether you want more taxes, more borrowing, or whatever else
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Speaker 8: you want, you have.
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Speaker 6: To assume that the mass public is educated enough to
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Speaker 6: know and understand how strategic voting works, when if you
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Speaker 6: ask the majority of people exactly how MMP works, you'd
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Speaker 6: get a variety of answers.
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Speaker 8: So it's a hugely risky thing to do, and I
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Speaker 8: think if you want.
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Speaker 8: If you want a Labour-led government, two ticks red. If
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Speaker 8: you want a National-led coalition, two ticks blue. And I
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Speaker 8: would think that's probably the best advice you can give
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Speaker 8: anybody because there's so much risk around trying to gerrymander
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Speaker 8: the vote to get an overhang.
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Speaker 1: But perhaps people aren't happy with the performance of say
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Speaker 1: the Nats, but they're happy with, say, the local MPs.
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Speaker 1: So that frame comes into it too.
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Speaker 8: That's always happened. And one of the things were that
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Speaker 8: a number of people who voted Labour and for Cargill
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Speaker 8: voted Eric for the electorate, which is why I won it.
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Speaker 8: And that happens. And that's fair enough. That's the contest
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Speaker 8: of the best person to serve the electorate. But to
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Speaker 8: try and say the best coalition grouping to run the
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Speaker 8: country we can gerrymander that to get an overhang is
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Speaker 8: an entirely different principle which I said is full of risk.
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Speaker 8: It's interesting to note right now looking around the world
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Speaker 8: that major parties are shrinking and minor parties are growing
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Speaker 8: so we've got a situation in New Zealand now where
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Speaker 8: the coalition on the left is Labour and three parties
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Speaker 8: and probably the coalition on the right is National and
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Speaker 8: one and a half parties, because I'm not entirely sure
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Speaker 8: that one of the parties that's going to perform in
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Speaker 8: the way that we all expect that they might. So,
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Speaker 8: you know, it's a bit of a challenging time. And
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Speaker 8: to try and drop strategic voting to gerrymandered outcome on
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Speaker 8: top of that is, I think, a huge risk.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's about getting bang for buck as well. And
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are frustrated regarding this
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Speaker 1: local council reform being paused after being told by the
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Speaker 1: incumbent government that this needs to go through.
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Speaker 8: Well, of course, I'm ankle deep in that or even
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Speaker 8: a bit deeper. And look, it's got to happen. But again,
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Speaker 8: what actually happened at the cabinet meeting that actually delayed
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Speaker 8: the decision making? and that's why I said we've only
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Speaker 8: got one and a half parties on the right, and
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Speaker 8: I'm not blaming which particular party, but one actually dug
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Speaker 8: in and said, no, we're not doing this before the election,
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Speaker 8: and we're all ready to go, and hey, presto, it
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Speaker 8: gets put on hold, and who knows what shape the
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Speaker 8: government will be in or how long it will actually
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Speaker 8: take to form a government after an election with so
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Speaker 8: many players trying to gerrymander the situation.
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Speaker 1: And that's the concern with MMP. Like you say, we
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Speaker 1: might not have a government for three or four weeks.
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Speaker 1: Worst case scenario?
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Speaker 8: Well, it could be three or four months. Who knows
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Speaker 8: what's going to happen? Because whilst you've got the two
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Speaker 8: main parties saying, this is where we sit with our
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Speaker 8: fiscal strategy, and then other parties are making promises which
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Speaker 8: are outside that fiscal constraint that the two major parties
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Speaker 8: are saying, That's all got to be renegotiated before you
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Speaker 8: can have a coalition. And people who are voting on
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Speaker 8: the basis of what might be a constraint on expenditure
18:45
Speaker 8: with either of the major parties will then say, hang
18:47
Speaker 8: on a minute, we didn't vote for this, and who
18:50
Speaker 8: knows what will happen. It could actually mean that we
18:53
Speaker 8: end up with a second election in six months' time
18:55
Speaker 8: if it can't all be settled. It is the most
18:58
Speaker 8: unstable time in my short career of about 75 years.
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Speaker 1: That is a short career. You're right, Eric. But when
19:05
Speaker 1: you're on the campaign trail, it must be pretty darn taxing.
19:08
Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking at all the politicians, all the
19:12
Speaker 1: wannabe politicians having meetings here, there and everywhere. Jeez, it
19:15
Speaker 1: must be demanding.
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Speaker 7: I loved it.
19:17
Speaker 8: I loved it because my role in politics as a
19:20
Speaker 8: speaker was I couldn't talk much. If you give me
19:24
Speaker 8: a microphone and a crowd, that's my happy place. So
19:27
Speaker 8: I really love campaigning, even though we're 90-hour weeks and
19:32
Speaker 8: door-knocking and having meetings and just forcing yourself on people.
19:37
Speaker 8: And it also is a challenge to be credible. You
19:40
Speaker 8: just don't say, well, I'm just out there selling the seeds.
19:43
Speaker 8: You've actually put a bit of thought into why you're
19:45
Speaker 8: in policy and what it all means. And I found
19:49
Speaker 8: that was the highlight. point, really, and a very critical
19:53
Speaker 8: part of the whole campaign in terms of what you're
19:57
Speaker 8: doing as a politician.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Eric. Always appreciate your time.
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Speaker 8: Thank you very much.
20:05
Speaker 1: Eric Roy, Talking Politics. And if you were at Rugby
20:08
Speaker 1: Park on Friday night, you may have heard his dulcet
20:10
Speaker 1: tones coming over the PA at one stage too. Was
20:13
Speaker 1: it his fault? I'll point that out. Dean Ravage is
20:17
Speaker 1: up next. This is The Muster.
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Speaker 2: The Muster on the farm with Southland District Council working
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Speaker 2: together for a better Southland.
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Speaker 1: Dean Ravage is based at Glenham, not far out of Wyndham.
20:33
Speaker 1: He's a sheep and beef farmer and joins us this
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Speaker 1: afternoon as we head into October with a better week
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Speaker 1: of weather for the South, Dean. Good afternoon.
20:42
Speaker 9: Good afternoon, Andy.
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Speaker 1: A better week in store?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's looking a bit like it, isn't it? Very
20:49
Speaker 9: much needed for everybody. So it looks like we'll hopefully
20:53
Speaker 9: get some tails off towards the end of the week,
20:55
Speaker 9: which is exciting, and hopefully start to move on to
20:59
Speaker 9: a few more... historical summer, well, not summer jobs, tractor
21:03
Speaker 9: jobs this time of year, trying to get some crop
21:05
Speaker 9: ground back ready for grass and all those fun jobs
21:08
Speaker 9: and a few gateways repaired after the events we've had. So, yeah,
21:12
Speaker 9: it's just that time of year where things are just
21:14
Speaker 9: starting to, still going to be busy, but just the
21:17
Speaker 9: task of changing a wee bit, which is nice.
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Speaker 1: You say you're excited about tailing. Is that based on
21:22
Speaker 1: the season we've had and you can see light at
21:24
Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, pretty much. It means it's finally good enough to
21:29
Speaker 9: do it, Andy. um, we'll hook into the terminals, uh,
21:33
Speaker 9: we'll just do one day at them and, um, be
21:36
Speaker 9: used and, yeah, normally they're done about a week ago. Um, so, yeah,
21:41
Speaker 9: the fact that we've been thinking about it is a
21:44
Speaker 9: good sign really, isn't it?
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Speaker 1: Rainfall figures at your farm, Dean. What do you reckon
21:47
Speaker 1: you've had for September compared to normal? Any ideas?
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Speaker 9: Uh, look, I just take about 20 mils off what
21:54
Speaker 9: Matt McRae has in my credit.
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Speaker 6: To be honest.
21:56
Speaker 9: It's only about right. So, um, We'll be getting close
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Speaker 9: to that, 300 mils as well. So, yeah, I know
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Speaker 9: the rain gauges hit between 10 and 15 mils in
22:09
Speaker 9: the most mornings you went past it. But then again,
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Speaker 9: it's pretty hard to measure it when it's coming in
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Speaker 9: sideways too. So, yeah, we'll be getting up there at
22:17
Speaker 9: 300 mils, which is quite high for us.
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Speaker 1: That's 300 mils for September alone?
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, well, that tells you the Mokorita must be a
22:27
Speaker 1: bit of a yardstick for the region.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it'd be the higher end of the region, I'd suspect,
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Speaker 9: but up here it's not far away from us, so
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Speaker 9: it's reasonably comparable.
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Speaker 1: We've had a couple of days of warmer weather, thank
22:41
Speaker 1: God for that. I was going to say something else then,
22:43
Speaker 1: because it's the first thing that comes to mind when
22:45
Speaker 1: you think of the weather lately, Dino. Are you starting
22:48
Speaker 1: to see a tinge of growth here? Is the ground
22:50
Speaker 1: absorbing all this moisture? What's happening?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's amazing what 48 hours does, eh?
22:57
Speaker 9: Just for everybody, animals and stuff. It's definitely turning a
23:05
Speaker 9: shade of green at home and vibrant. So yeah, another
23:10
Speaker 9: few days on this, another 10 days, and then we'll
23:13
Speaker 9: give everybody a good kick along really. So it's just
23:16
Speaker 9: what we needed because all those lambs will be starting
23:19
Speaker 9: to dip white in covers now too, so yeah.
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Speaker 1: How's the lamb drop been, all things considered, at your place?
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Speaker 9: Look, it's going to be back. There's no denying that.
23:33
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's definitely had worse years. People keep going
23:40
Speaker 9: back to that 2010 year. It's still better than that.
23:45
Speaker 9: And without the capital year losses, I think that was
23:48
Speaker 9: the real kicker in 2010. And we haven't seen them
23:50
Speaker 9: this year with the Metamark issues that were associated with
23:53
Speaker 9: that year. So, No, as frustrating as it's going to be,
23:56
Speaker 9: the lamb numbers may be down in the years, but
23:58
Speaker 9: then on the flip side, the hogs are in full
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Speaker 9: swing now and they're going to get a good sort
24:04
Speaker 9: of two-week window or ten days to get most of
24:06
Speaker 9: their work done. So maybe the extra lambs in the
24:09
Speaker 9: hogs this year may make up for a small decrease
24:13
Speaker 9: in the main years. So all in all, it might
24:15
Speaker 9: average out to be another year. But we won't know
24:19
Speaker 9: until we tail. But then getting them tailed is one thing,
24:23
Speaker 9: it's getting them on the truck at a 18 and
24:25
Speaker 9: a half kilo carcass for the next battle so that's
24:29
Speaker 9: what you get paid for at the end of the
24:30
Speaker 9: day so we start to transition that focus from there
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Speaker 9: on to get some ground as fast as we can
24:36
Speaker 9: I guess.
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Speaker 1: Are you as intense with the Hoggett lambing as say
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Speaker 1: the main flock?
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Speaker 9: Yeah probably more intensive to be honest Andy we've got
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Speaker 9: a lambing ship from Wales over for the lambing this
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Speaker 9: year and he's going around the hogs three times a
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Speaker 9: day just Especially in these warmer days, you can sort
24:56
Speaker 9: of lose a few with landing difficulties.
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Speaker 2: Or lands in it.
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Speaker 9: So yeah, double take long shoot round and you've only
25:04
Speaker 9: got to save a couple to make it last. It's
25:08
Speaker 9: only for one half cycle, so short, sharp stuff will
25:12
Speaker 9: go in three clubs a day.
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Speaker 1: Now, your shepherd came over from Wales, like you talked
25:17
Speaker 1: about then. I remember last time we spoke, you were
25:19
Speaker 1: going away to the airport to pick him up. Poor
25:21
Speaker 1: guy must just think Southland's absolute pits.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm a bit sorry for him.
25:26
Speaker 4: To be honest.
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Speaker 9: He's battled away quite well. So, yeah, I don't know
25:33
Speaker 9: if he'll be putting his head up for doing it
25:35
Speaker 9: up in Southland, but at least the last two weeks,
25:38
Speaker 9: the stuff will be more enjoyable.
25:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what's he made of the lambing in New
25:45
Speaker 1: Zealand in general? Because I imagine back home it's all
25:47
Speaker 1: done in sight.
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Speaker 9: So get the tractor into the paddock, get the tailing
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Speaker 9: done and this will be the next two or three
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Speaker 9: weeks of focus. Yeah, first of the year, actually got
26:13
Speaker 9: to repair a few gateways, get some rock in them
26:16
Speaker 9: so we can either get years of lambs through to
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Speaker 9: a paddock where we can tail them or we can
26:21
Speaker 9: get the tailing gear through to the years of lambs.
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Speaker 9: So it's just one of those things, just the prolonged
26:27
Speaker 9: wet over the winter. Colds wash out in other places too.
26:31
Speaker 9: So that's a priority. Then we'll get the tails off
26:34
Speaker 9: and then we'll start thinking about burning some $ 3 diesel, getting...
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Speaker 9: from the ground ready to go, I guess, I suppose. So, yeah,
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Speaker 9: I'll cover it and look it up too.
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Speaker 1: That phrase after the Christchurch, earthquakes comes to mind being munted.
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Speaker 1: Are your gateways munted proper?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, a few of the higher traffic ones are pretty munted,
27:00
Speaker 9: especially on the flatter paddocks. There's waters here, nowhere to go.
27:04
Speaker 9: Whereas on the hills, fortunately, you can sort of run
27:08
Speaker 9: off a bit. So... But, yeah, a couple of loads
27:11
Speaker 9: of rocks. Most of them sort things out, so it
27:14
Speaker 9: won't take too long.
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Speaker 1: How have the ewes come through the spring so far?
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Speaker 9: The beews are battling a wee bit, but they're always
27:22
Speaker 9: the poorer ewes anyway, which is frustrating because they sort
27:26
Speaker 9: of get allocated a lot more feet, and the ewes
27:29
Speaker 9: are holding on really well at the moment. Yeah, but
27:35
Speaker 9: obviously you're going to have to... Yeah, keep a close
27:38
Speaker 9: eye on them this year. So, yeah, we'll just see
27:42
Speaker 9: what happens. But we may have to throw a bit
27:44
Speaker 9: more urea around later on to make sure we've got
27:47
Speaker 9: adequate covers. So, yeah, that's all right. We'll get there.
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Speaker 1: You've got through September now, Dean. Do you just carry
27:54
Speaker 1: on with the mindset as to what you normally do?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, I'm not going to change too much. I'm
28:01
Speaker 9: not a big fan of making radical changes just after
28:05
Speaker 9: one or two bad. events, trying to make calculated changes
28:10
Speaker 9: and panic slowly, really.
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Speaker 1: Well, Wednesday night, the Beef and Lamb Spring Shouts coming
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Speaker 1: to your neck of the woods anyway, Three Rivers Hotel
28:18
Speaker 1: at Wyndham, 5pm start, and Thursday, Brunel Peaks Cafe over
28:22
Speaker 1: at Blackmount, so knowing you Wyndham buggers, I'd say you'll
28:26
Speaker 1: have a bit of a thirst built up by Wednesday night.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, look, we might find our way down there, I guess.
28:32
Speaker 9: We've also got the Rugby Cabaret Prize giving on Friday
28:35
Speaker 9: night too, so there's plenty of good causes to get
28:39
Speaker 9: off farm and socialise a bit this week coming up
28:42
Speaker 9: which is good and I think people are finally getting
28:45
Speaker 9: to that space where they can breathe a little bit
28:47
Speaker 9: and feel as they can or not feel too guilty
28:51
Speaker 9: about getting off farm and yeah trying to be stressed
28:55
Speaker 9: a bit because I know yeah the stress levels have
28:59
Speaker 9: been and if not are still pretty high out there.
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Speaker 1: Good on you Dean good to catch up as always
29:04
Speaker 1: cheers Andy Dean Ravage based at Glenham. Bit of sunshine.
29:11
Speaker 1: It's a good thing. You're listening to The Muster. Before
29:13
Speaker 1: the end of the hour, Tom O'Brien based up in Garston.
29:16
Speaker 1: But next, out of the Southland Tribune, Logan Savory reviewing
29:20
Speaker 1: the stag season.
29:21
Speaker 10: Blondie is the music.
29:32
Speaker 1: Of course, featuring Debbie Harry on lead vocals. You're listening
29:35
Speaker 1: to The Muster. Logan Savry joins us next out of
29:38
Speaker 1: the Southland Tribune. Good afternoon, Sav. The stag season is
29:43
Speaker 1: nothing but a vast memory now.
29:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's over just like that, isn't it? Ten weeks
29:47
Speaker 5: and it rolls by pretty quickly and we have to
29:50
Speaker 5: sit back and watch the next three weeks of play out, which, yeah, look,
29:56
Speaker 5: two from ten, you'd have to say, in that sort
29:59
Speaker 5: of sense, disappointing. Season, blew that game against Manor 2.
30:05
Speaker 5: Put themselves in position to win against Canterbury and North
30:08
Speaker 5: on the last couple of weeks and didn't get across
30:10
Speaker 5: the line. So 2 from 10, 13th place. On numbers alone,
30:17
Speaker 5: in that sort of sense, you'd have to say disappointing season.
30:21
Speaker 5: And I guess now we look to what's next for them.
30:27
Speaker 1: Scott Eder's coach, it was initiation by fire, quite literally,
30:31
Speaker 1: and he's a very approachable guy, his heart's in the
30:34
Speaker 1: right place, very passionate for this team. How would you
30:37
Speaker 1: rate his season?
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Speaker 5: Oh, I think you summed her up. It was baptism
30:41
Speaker 5: by fire for Scott. He'd come in, and I think
30:45
Speaker 5: he was, you know, talking to him pre-season, was pretty
30:48
Speaker 5: happy with the squad.
30:49
Speaker 4: He had assembled.
30:51
Speaker 5: Within the space of about two weeks of pre-season, assembled
30:54
Speaker 5: the squad, He'd lost about eight or nine players, and really,
30:58
Speaker 5: particularly in the backs, really tested the depth. Look, personally,
31:04
Speaker 5: I believe Scott will be, and is, a good coach.
31:09
Speaker 5: He does need a bit of luck around that sort
31:11
Speaker 5: of sense. You add to that those injuries I talked about. Samisi,
31:18
Speaker 5: two-bow tie lower, making the all-blacks, great for him. geez,
31:22
Speaker 5: that was a big loss for Southland. And just before
31:27
Speaker 5: the season, you know, he had signed Fela Toipeni, who
31:31
Speaker 5: was big for them the year before, and I think
31:33
Speaker 5: it was planned to sort of base a lot of
31:35
Speaker 5: the tack around him. At second five, Moana Pacifica folded,
31:40
Speaker 5: and he obviously, you know, quite rightly had to look
31:42
Speaker 5: at other opportunities and landed a deal in France.
31:46
Speaker 9: But look, no, I've got.
31:48
Speaker 5: Confidence that Scott can play. can turn the ship around.
31:53
Speaker 5: I know he just needs probably a bit of luck
31:57
Speaker 5: around that injury front and players available. He, through his
32:00
Speaker 5: past role as academy manager, has worked a lot with
32:07
Speaker 5: some of the young guys coming through and has now
32:10
Speaker 5: exposed a lot of those guys to MPC rugby. I
32:13
Speaker 5: would have liked to think they'll be better for that
32:15
Speaker 5: in the coming seasons.
32:16
Speaker 1: The cynics would suggest how many of these players will
32:19
Speaker 1: be seen in Invercargill next MPC season?
32:22
Speaker 5: Well, talking to Scott the other day about that exact thing,
32:29
Speaker 5: he acknowledged we're never probably going to get 100% retention.
32:34
Speaker 5: Some players will leave overseas for opportunities. Some players, they
32:39
Speaker 5: may look to move on. But he is confident that
32:42
Speaker 5: there's already a lot of work being done and there'll
32:44
Speaker 5: be a high percentage of the current squad back next season.
32:49
Speaker 6: So.
32:50
Speaker 5: I think I understand they've already made some pretty good
32:52
Speaker 5: inroads into getting that sorted.
32:55
Speaker 1: Jack Taylor got injured, entered Jadon Henderson, and it's fair
32:58
Speaker 1: to say the bloke from Riversdale did an outstanding job.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he was one of the real success
33:05
Speaker 5: stories of the season. Look, stoked for him. He's a
33:09
Speaker 5: guy that, as you said, from Riversdale that really wanted
33:12
Speaker 5: to play for South and went pretty close in 2024.
33:18
Speaker 5: and didn't quite get the nod then. Went away, worked
33:22
Speaker 5: on his game, come back, and has taken every opportunity.
33:26
Speaker 5: Come back, originally, his injury cover in the preseason. Had
33:32
Speaker 5: a huge game in the preseason against Otago. And then
33:37
Speaker 5: got included in the 23, as you mentioned. Jack Taylor
33:39
Speaker 5: goes down. Huge loss for the Stags, but Jaden Henderson
33:43
Speaker 5: stood up. And great for him. He'll now probably play...
33:48
Speaker 5: club rugby if not I understand that.
33:50
Speaker 4: There's talk of potential interest of Super Rugby wider contract
33:56
Speaker 4: potentially and if not he'll play club rugby down here
33:59
Speaker 4: and be back next season so that's a great win
34:02
Speaker 4: I think and a great success story for this season.
34:04
Speaker 1: Sav as far as Super Rugby is going ahead next
34:07
Speaker 1: year albeit a bigger version which arguably is going to
34:10
Speaker 1: be interesting from an engagement perspective but the MPC it's
34:15
Speaker 1: all guns ahead for next season do you understand?
34:18
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, all locked in for next season. I think
34:20
Speaker 5: if there's any changes in what those changes might be,
34:24
Speaker 5: there's a lot.
34:25
Speaker 8: To go on.
34:26
Speaker 5: That's from 2028 onwards, so they're working through that.
34:30
Speaker 8: But as.
34:32
Speaker 5: Far as at this stage, things are all go for
34:36
Speaker 5: next season. Look, I know there's a lot of doom
34:38
Speaker 5: and gloom around rugby, obviously, the narrative, and I understand
34:42
Speaker 5: why that is and the challenges, but I looked at
34:45
Speaker 5: that game on Friday night at Rugby Park, between Southland
34:48
Speaker 5: and Northland, a game that really didn't mean a lot
34:51
Speaker 5: for Southland in terms of the competition. And there would
34:55
Speaker 5: have been, I mean, I don't know, I haven't got
34:57
Speaker 5: the official count, but there would have been 7,000 people there,
35:00
Speaker 5: I would have thought, maybe some more. And that, to me,
35:04
Speaker 5: suggests that provincial rugby still holds a bit of interest
35:09
Speaker 5: around the place, and that should be celebrated.
35:13
Speaker 1: How would you rate the season, just to wrap up?
35:14
Speaker 1: What would you give it out of 10?
35:17
Speaker 5: Well, I couldn't give it a pass mark, so what's
35:19
Speaker 5: a pass mark? It's five, so I'd have to say.
35:23
Speaker 1: Maybe a four. Logan Savory, always appreciate your time. Keep
35:27
Speaker 1: up the great work with the Tribune.
35:29
Speaker 5: Thanks, Andy.
35:32
Speaker 1: Logan Savory of the Southland Tribune. Yeah, super fans like
35:35
Speaker 1: Joanne Kyle. Great to see you out and about using
35:38
Speaker 1: you in this year. Tom O'Brien's up next to wrap up.
35:51
Speaker 1: This is the muster on Hokonui. Tom O'Brien is based
35:55
Speaker 1: up in Garston in upper northern Southland and catches up
35:58
Speaker 1: once again. Tommy Tupper, how are you?
36:01
Speaker 7: I'm very well, mate, very well.
36:02
Speaker 1: It sounds as though you had a pretty busy weekend.
36:04
Speaker 1: You went away doing a few trails.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I had a great weekend, Andy. Went up to
36:10
Speaker 7: Dunedin to near Waiteti, Blueskin Bay, just north of Dunedin,
36:16
Speaker 7: about 20 minutes north of Dunedin, and I had the.
36:19
Speaker 5: Finish at.
36:21
Speaker 7: Ark Brewery, which is basically you've got to try and
36:25
Speaker 7: bag or get to the summit of as many peaks,
36:29
Speaker 7: sort of hilltop peaks as you can within eight hours. So, yeah,
36:35
Speaker 7: beautiful weather, stunning trails, good people. It was about 40 people.
36:40
Speaker 7: One of my daughters with me and her friend and
36:42
Speaker 7: a couple of other friends, and we were cruising. We
36:44
Speaker 7: were just, you know, we weren't out to break any records.
36:46
Speaker 7: We were just out for a nice walk, a nice
36:48
Speaker 7: hike out, and we did I think we did about
36:51
Speaker 7: 32 or 33 kilometres for the day, which is respectable. Yeah,
36:55
Speaker 7: and then came back yesterday.
36:57
Speaker 1: Good to have some decent weather too, though, Tom.
37:00
Speaker 7: Oh, well, mate, I'm drinking a nice cup of Yorkshire tea,
37:04
Speaker 7: black strong tea, out in the sunshine, and I've just
37:08
Speaker 7: lathered up on some factor 50 sunblock, lad. So I
37:13
Speaker 7: hope and all it's the last pitch here, I tell you.
37:16
Speaker 8: No, it's good, mate.
37:17
Speaker 5: It's good.
37:17
Speaker 7: It's good to see the sun. And I'm sure that
37:20
Speaker 7: many of our farmers in particular are very, very happy
37:22
Speaker 7: to see the sun come out and dry things out
37:25
Speaker 7: a little bit and just give a bit of boost
37:27
Speaker 7: to the grass growth, right?
37:29
Speaker 1: Was that Yorkshire or Scottish, that wannabe translation before?
37:34
Speaker 11: Oh, hang on, lad, it's bloody, it's from Yorkshire. Come on, lad,
37:39
Speaker 11: I'm not from down there. If I was from Bristol, though,
37:43
Speaker 11: if I was from Bristol, I'd be like, how would
37:45
Speaker 11: I do that?
37:46
Speaker 7: I'd say, we're just going out to pick up a
37:49
Speaker 7: couple of, what we do is at the end of
37:52
Speaker 7: our holiday, we go out to the park and then
37:55
Speaker 7: we bale some eggs. And then we come back in
37:58
Speaker 7: and we drink a few pints of cider. And then
38:00
Speaker 7: after a few pints of cider, we try and lift it.
38:03
Speaker 7: We have a competition to see how many cars we
38:05
Speaker 7: can lift up with one hand like that. So, yeah.
38:09
Speaker 7: But anyway, I digress.
38:11
Speaker 1: Lucky I didn't ask you to do an Essex lady.
38:15
Speaker 1: We won't go there, Tom.
38:18
Speaker 7: What goes on in Essex stays in Essex, right?
38:20
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Chelmsford represent the Kingston Flyer. Last time we spoke
38:25
Speaker 1: to you, you were going on your training ride. All
38:27
Speaker 1: went off without a hitch, I take it?
38:29
Speaker 9: Oh, it was grand, mate.
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Speaker 7: It was absolutely grand. You know, we're getting some amazing
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Speaker 7: feedback about the flyer. The presentation of the train is exceptional.
38:37
Speaker 7: It is literally shimmering and shining in the northern south
38:41
Speaker 7: in sort of Kingston sunshine. Great patronage. We had a
38:45
Speaker 7: good charter trip on the Tuesday, and that was basically
38:48
Speaker 7: our first test, if you like, of the season. When
38:52
Speaker 7: I was away in Dunedin, I got a report back
38:54
Speaker 7: saying that they had two runs on Sunday. Everything went very,
38:58
Speaker 7: very smoothly and well, and once again, the feedback's been great.
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Speaker 7: So very happy with the way things are going.
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Speaker 1: So when does the season kick off proper then?
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Speaker 7: Oh, this weekend, mate.
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Speaker 8: She's all go.
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Speaker 1: She's all go.
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Speaker 11: Yep, yep.
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Speaker 7: So we've got to get you up in that engine
39:12
Speaker 7: and we've got to get you, you know, pulling a
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Speaker 7: few levers and, you know, pretending that you know what
39:17
Speaker 7: you're doing and all that sort of stuff. And I
39:19
Speaker 7: won't tell anyone. But, yeah, like as long as you
39:21
Speaker 7: keep us on the straight and narrow and, you know,
39:24
Speaker 7: don't go AWOL, I think we'll be sweet, mate.
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Speaker 1: How hard is it to brake something like that when
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Speaker 1: you're steering it?
39:30
Speaker 9: To brake it?
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. You push the wrong button and something
39:35
Speaker 1: combusts in your face.
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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean, like there are some safety valves
39:39
Speaker 7: which prevent, you know, sort of, steam trains for dummies
39:44
Speaker 7: 101 there are some safety mechanisms in there but in
39:46
Speaker 7: saying that yeah i guess it's a bit like you
39:49
Speaker 7: know last week when uh you know they had that
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Speaker 7: terrorist in the cockpit of that aircraft and you know
39:54
Speaker 7: he decided he wanted to smash a few things inside
39:57
Speaker 7: the cockpit because he just didn't like the way of
39:59
Speaker 7: the world and luckily that uh i think it was
40:01
Speaker 7: an iranian guy just got him in a headlock pulled
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Speaker 7: him out of the cockpit and they overwhelmed him and
40:07
Speaker 7: uh then he then he I heard a funny story.
40:10
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's true or not, but he
40:11
Speaker 7: hit him in the headlock, and then he calmed him
40:13
Speaker 7: off to a couple of other passengers while he went
40:16
Speaker 7: and grabbed the yoke, which is like the steering wheel
40:19
Speaker 7: of the 747, and then he just pulled it back
40:23
Speaker 7: out to bring the nose up because they'd gone into
40:25
Speaker 7: a nosedive. Yeah, that's right. Someone must have interviewed him
40:28
Speaker 7: and said, how did you know to do that? And
40:30
Speaker 7: I think I don't know, something like, oh, yeah, I'll
40:32
Speaker 7: watch snakes on a plane or something like that, you know.
40:36
Speaker 7: Just another airline movie where, you know, where the shit
40:40
Speaker 7: hits the fan, you know. Oh, you just pull this
40:42
Speaker 7: lever here, you'll be sweet.
40:44
Speaker 1: Nothing will ever come close to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's cameo in
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Speaker 1: the airplane, Tom.
40:49
Speaker 7: Oh, wasn't he great? I mean, fantastic basketball, the first and,
40:53
Speaker 7: you know, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. I think I might have had a,
40:56
Speaker 7: I think I might have had a, like a, like
40:58
Speaker 7: a collector card of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or like a poster
41:02
Speaker 7: or something in my wall at high school. He was
41:04
Speaker 7: one of those guys anyway. But yeah, yeah, so things
41:08
Speaker 7: are good.
41:09
Speaker 1: Firstly, great correlation, a hijacking of a plane to steering
41:13
Speaker 1: the Kings and Flyer, but there's a book that's come
41:16
Speaker 1: out recently talking about walks aimed at the rural community.
41:20
Speaker 8: Correct, Andy.
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Speaker 7: So yeah, my good friend Gary Patterson's He's just published
41:25
Speaker 7: a book called Wanda, New Zealand's Private Walks. And we
41:29
Speaker 7: all know how quickly the 23 great rides, large commercial operators, entities,
41:37
Speaker 7: you know, some big, big commercial players have basically kind
41:40
Speaker 7: of almost monopolised that space. And fair dues, you know,
41:42
Speaker 7: because they are great for New Zealand's tourism industry and
41:46
Speaker 7: really showcase what we have. But there are 26... predominantly
41:51
Speaker 7: farms and farmers throughout New Zealand who have opened up
41:56
Speaker 7: their properties for the public, for the locals and international
42:02
Speaker 7: travellers and anyone who wants to. And they range from
42:05
Speaker 7: anywhere from sort of two- to three-hour walks through to two-
42:07
Speaker 7: to three-day walks. And it's a beautiful book. It's beautiful
42:11
Speaker 7: photos and really well set out. But it really highlights the...
42:16
Speaker 7: I guess the people of the land and what they
42:19
Speaker 7: do and why they do it and how they do it.
42:22
Speaker 7: We all know that New Zealand farmers are incredibly proud
42:25
Speaker 7: of their properties and they take so much pride in
42:28
Speaker 7: their properties. And when they do that and they share
42:32
Speaker 7: that with other people, other visitors from around the world,
42:34
Speaker 7: it really validates it. And when they get the feedback
42:38
Speaker 7: that they do, they can go, oh, well, You know,
42:40
Speaker 7: here is truly off the beaten tracks in New Zealand
42:43
Speaker 7: where I can stay in the farm homestead or I
42:45
Speaker 7: can stay in the shearer's quarters that have been done
42:48
Speaker 7: up or I can stay in the huts. You know,
42:51
Speaker 7: it caters for every budget. But it really is truly
42:54
Speaker 7: a unique slice of New Zealand paradise. And I'm really
42:58
Speaker 7: excited for Gary. He's only published 2,000 copies, but they're
43:04
Speaker 7: all gone. So if people wanted to get... I bought
43:07
Speaker 7: five of them because I want to give them for gifts.
43:09
Speaker 7: around Christmas time. But I'm going to keep one of
43:12
Speaker 7: these books.
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Speaker 9: Beautiful book.
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Speaker 7: He's done so much work and really advocated for the
43:16
Speaker 7: farming community and diversifying in that space.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Tom. You keep being you. We'll catch
43:22
Speaker 1: up again.
43:23
Speaker 7: Nice one, Andy. Catch you soon.
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