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Inside The Data: What Do The Metrics Say About Eagles A.J. Brown's Separation Yards? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another Inside the Data on Inside the Birds.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher. That is Sam Finkel, and he, as
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  Speaker 1: always has the great analytics and data. He is our expert,
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  Speaker 1: and as we do every week, we're gonna break down
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  Speaker 1: the last Eagles game. It's a win, a thirty one
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  Speaker 1: to twenty five win over the Tampa Bay Bucks. Eagles
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  Speaker 1: are four and oh but that was about as polarizing,
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  Speaker 1: not only of a game but as a win from
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  Speaker 1: I guess the outside perspective, but even within the game, Sam,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you just look at how they threw the
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  Speaker 1: ball in the first half, fifteen to sixteen and then
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  Speaker 1: oh of eight. You don't see that kind of variance
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  Speaker 1: from half to half very often.
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  Speaker 2: No, you really don't. And you're absolutely right and very
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  Speaker 2: excited to break this down.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome, that's great. So Sam, in this episode, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we've been following a sort of a formula of going
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  Speaker 1: through some data. But Sam has some really excellent statistics
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  Speaker 1: on AJ Brown. Analytical ones, really advanced data on AJ
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  Speaker 1: Brown and his separation that we're going to get into.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it's obviously a big topic right now.
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  Speaker 1: AJ Brown has made himself a big topic some of
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles by not being able to get him the ball.
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  Speaker 1: It's a guy who's had fourteen hundred yards three years
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  Speaker 1: in a row and then last year was up over
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  Speaker 1: I believe eleven hundred yards and missed some games and
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  Speaker 1: probably would have been there. And right now he's like
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  Speaker 1: a guy in the offense. Sam. It's kind of weird
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  Speaker 1: to see aj Brown just not getting the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not for lack of trying, as you'll see.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll talk about it soon. I'm excited for that one.
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  Speaker 1: All right, awesome, So we will start off and we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the charts in a second, but just in general,
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  Speaker 1: before we do anything, as you were putting this together,
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  Speaker 1: that jump out at you from an analytics or a
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  Speaker 1: data standpoint that made you go, wow.
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  Speaker 2: You know something that I said last week really inspired
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  Speaker 2: me to add something new to the basic chart, and
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  Speaker 2: that was the average starting field position. Right. I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: particularly against the Rams, the Eagles did not win the
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  Speaker 2: starting field position battle. I was a little bit surprised
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  Speaker 2: to see that they won against the Buccaneers. I guess
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  Speaker 2: not crazy surprise, but they did win the average starting
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  Speaker 2: field position battle.
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  Speaker 1: It sure helped that they didn't muff five kickoffs, Sam,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt about that.
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  Speaker 1: I can really help you in the category for field position, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: something we also talked about last week jumped out at
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  Speaker 1: me in the basic stats, and I'll pull that up
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  Speaker 1: in a second, because in a lot of the basic
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  Speaker 1: stats the Eagles did not win, but in one key
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  Speaker 1: one that we talked about last week, they continue to
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  Speaker 1: win and that makes a big difference. So I will
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  Speaker 1: pull up the chart now and we will get right
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  Speaker 1: to it. And as you can point out there, Sam,
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  Speaker 1: the Bucks pretty much owned from a basic stamp. They
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  Speaker 1: won the stat sheet there except for one critical critical
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  Speaker 1: category that's been key for the Eagles, and that's the turnovers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think this is the first week the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles lost time of possession two, right, So that's I
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  Speaker 2: should have mentioned that as well as a key part
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  Speaker 2: of this, Like we said, the way the Eagles want
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  Speaker 2: to play football, the way they have been playing football.
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  Speaker 2: Love that the way they've been playing football has been
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  Speaker 2: winning the turnover battle and by holding the ball and
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  Speaker 2: having the maximum amount of time of possession.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they have And when you get to so
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  Speaker 1: I think that's why turnovers has become for them this
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  Speaker 1: year so far through four games, their biggest or most
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  Speaker 1: glaring stat for why they're four to zero and not
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  Speaker 1: maybe three and one or two and two or even
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  Speaker 1: worse having a losing record, because if you go and
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  Speaker 1: look at when and where those turnovers ever happened, they've been.
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  Speaker 1: So you go back to Week one where Dallas was driving,
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  Speaker 1: they had the huge Miles Sanders run into the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: territory and then Miles fumbles the ball. Week two, Travis
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  Speaker 1: kelcey is literally about to catch a pass and go
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  Speaker 1: into the end zone, except it bounces off his hands
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  Speaker 1: and goes right into Andrew mccouba. I mean, that was
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  Speaker 1: That's like a fourteen point swing right there. I believe
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles converted that into at least a field goal,
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  Speaker 1: so it was a it was a big swing. And
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  Speaker 1: then of course to get the opening possession interception against
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  Speaker 1: the Rams was huge because they were they would have
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  Speaker 1: been down even more than the nineteen points that they were,
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  Speaker 1: So each turnover that they're getting and again against the Bucks,
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  Speaker 1: really critical one by Jahad Campbell there in the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: In these one possession games are so critical. The Eagles
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  Speaker 1: have won four games by a total of twenty points.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And but what we've talked about before, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to keep hammering at home, even though here's the
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  Speaker 2: thing it has been replicable is you can't really rely
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  Speaker 2: on these right that they're not going to consistently happ
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  Speaker 2: throughout the course of a season. Right, They're gonna need
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  Speaker 2: to make plays in other ways. But by not turning
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  Speaker 2: the ball over, you put yourself in the best position
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  Speaker 2: to win games. But you can't rely on other teams
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  Speaker 2: to keep making these mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough, the one thing about the basic data that
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  Speaker 1: we'll just take a quick look at that I think
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit skewed or misleading. I would be
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  Speaker 1: more concerned by the eagles lack of production than what
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing from Tampa Bay's productions. What I mean is
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay had three hundred and seventy six yards, which
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  Speaker 1: is a decent amount of yards in a game. But
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  Speaker 1: I think one hundred and sixty something came on two plays, right,
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  Speaker 1: two sort of shot plays. One that you just scramble drill,
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  Speaker 1: you know, John Campbell trying to cover Bucky Irving that
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  Speaker 1: you know, that really speaks to the Eagles not getting
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  Speaker 1: pressure enough on that play, and then Baker also doing
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  Speaker 1: a good job of getting out and then obviously the
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  Speaker 1: coverage breakdown on the Ekbuka touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: If you tell us such a tight window throw too.
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  Speaker 1: And it was yeah, yeah, And I know you can
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  Speaker 1: those counts, so you don't take them away, but I
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  Speaker 1: think that they skew the total yards, the yards per play,
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  Speaker 1: and the yards per pass average. So yeah, I look
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  Speaker 1: at that and I don't say this was a bad
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  Speaker 1: defensive effort by the Eagles, but I look at the
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  Speaker 1: offensive stats there and I say, man, that's concerning, especially
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  Speaker 1: after that first half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the right takeaway from the basic stats.
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  Speaker 2: I think you hit the nail right on the head there.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let us go to the real juicy stuff,
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  Speaker 1: the advanced stats, what jumps out to you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So first off, let me just say that I
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  Speaker 2: built this table a little bit differently, so those who
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  Speaker 2: have watched and followed the show. We compared the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: season to you know, the Eagles and their opponent. Instead,
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  Speaker 2: now offense and defense are going to be separated. So
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  Speaker 2: the column on the middle, the middle column is the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles on the season, and the one to the right
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  Speaker 2: is how they did, how the offense did against Tampa Bay.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so the right column is Tampa Bay's, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's the Eagles. And now you're comparing it through the
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  Speaker 1: first four games. So h it looks like the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: were obviously worse in many categories against Tampa Bay than
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  Speaker 1: they've been for the season.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, get from an EPA standpoint, so much so that
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  Speaker 2: their EPA per play is now negative from this.
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  Speaker 1: So it was positive last week for the three games
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  Speaker 1: it was Yeah, Wow, that's what a minus point seventeen
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  Speaker 1: will do for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So what that means is that they're actively hurting
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  Speaker 2: themselves on scoring drives on average. Wow, very minuscule, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's very minor. In fact, it's almost like zero, which
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  Speaker 2: means that they're really just not helping themselves get into
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  Speaker 2: scoring positions, which I think is what we see right
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  Speaker 2: at what we have seen and saying that, I think
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  Speaker 2: it it shows that these advanced stats do a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good job of capturing that. Yeah, because it factors in,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all all the football that the Eagles have
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  Speaker 2: played this year, and I think on average they have
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  Speaker 2: not helped them so into scoring positions.
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  Speaker 1: Is there something interesting. Is this just coincidence or is
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  Speaker 1: there something to be made that every each EPA for pass,
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  Speaker 1: play and rush are all the exact same.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think that was quirk Okay, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think there's anything more than that. It was just a
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  Speaker 2: quirky thing that happened. But I do think it's indicative
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  Speaker 2: that regardless of how they were attacking the Bucks, it
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  Speaker 2: was not really on average helping them. Now, these numbers
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  Speaker 2: certainly would skew from the first in the second half,
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  Speaker 2: but as you can see, it's more negative than positive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Would you have been able to get the
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  Speaker 1: EPA per half for is that even available?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Okay, it would be very interesting
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  Speaker 2: to see. I don't think so. It's possible. I could
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  Speaker 2: look into it, but.
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  Speaker 1: I was just I'm just thinking that it seems like
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  Speaker 1: the the negativity of the second half was more negative
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  Speaker 1: than the positivity of the positives in the first half.
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  Speaker 2: If that makes sense, I would agree, But that's also
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  Speaker 2: assuming that the first half was completely efficient. And I
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  Speaker 2: know that fifteen for sixteen passing is but doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: that their rushing necessarily was either.
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  Speaker 1: A great point. Yeah, they did struggle to run even
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  Speaker 1: when they were moving the ball. Yeah, good point.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the only thing I'd add on that, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And then the Eagles only did two things in the
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  Speaker 2: advanced stats better, and that was they got the ball
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  Speaker 2: out much Hurts got the ball out much quicker, but
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  Speaker 2: out of necessity, right, I mean by design, right, it
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  Speaker 2: was out of necessity out and by design. And then
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  Speaker 2: also the sack percentage was lower than on the season.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, because well, and again that would be another
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  Speaker 1: one to measure by the half, because Hurts had far
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  Speaker 1: fewer dropbacks in the second half, but I think he
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  Speaker 1: took three sacks on far fewer dropbacks, So I would
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  Speaker 1: imagine his second half sack percentage is way is in
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  Speaker 1: the red as opposed to being for the game in
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  Speaker 1: the green at seven point seven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. And I think like
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  Speaker 2: when we did the Rams episode last week, we talked
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  Speaker 2: about how it was a game of two halves. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't think we'd be saying that again, and it really was.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Eagles have not been consistent in half
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's going to catch up with them eventually.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that that narrative I didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: say that narrative again, but really you can't say anything else, right.
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  Speaker 1: So, the time to pressure against the Bucks at two
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  Speaker 1: three five compared to the time to throw two two
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  Speaker 1: three or waited by the fact that the Bucks pressured
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  Speaker 1: very quickly because they threw a ton of six and
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  Speaker 1: seven man cover zeros at the Eagles in the first
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  Speaker 1: half especially, they stopped that in the second half. It did,
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  Speaker 1: and then the Eagles came out clearly understanding this, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: fifteen of sixteen was largely on three step drops and
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  Speaker 1: really getting the ball out quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the thing is to Todd Bowles's credit, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the blitz had worked historically against Hertz, but honestly that
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  Speaker 2: their halftime adjustment it's really worked as well. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 2: big credit to Bulls in the defense there.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. I made the point on the postgame show
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  Speaker 1: that I felt like Todd Bowles sort of walked into
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  Speaker 1: a blitz buzzsaw only because it's worked so well from
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  Speaker 1: the past. But the Eagles have been getting blitz so much,
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  Speaker 1: from the Kansas City Chiefs who did it at like
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  Speaker 1: sixty percent, to even the Rams who went up from
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  Speaker 1: their normal twelve percent to forty five percent, and then
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  Speaker 1: even who is the Rams achieved the Cowboys in the
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  Speaker 1: second half dialed up the pressure on them after not
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  Speaker 1: so I feel like the Eagles just knew what was
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  Speaker 1: coming and they've been prepared for it. And ironically, it
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  Speaker 1: was when Todd stopped, when he started dropping, is when
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles started to have you know, less success.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of interesting that and honestly that worries me a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, right, I mean, it shows that they had
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  Speaker 2: a game plan that worked really well. But your game
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  Speaker 2: plan only works so well as if the other team
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  Speaker 2: follows what you expect them to do. You need to
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  Speaker 2: be able to turn on a dime and change and
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  Speaker 2: adjust to their And honestly, the fact that we didn't
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  Speaker 2: see that is super concerning, and honestly it's not It's
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  Speaker 2: not to be unexpected from a first year coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: So agreed. So the Eagles for the season. I know
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  Speaker 1: this is weird for people, but as you have it here,
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  Speaker 1: they have a forty four point three percent rush success.
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  Speaker 1: Now again, I think you should repeat what rush success
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  Speaker 1: means so that people because people are gonna say, how
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  Speaker 1: is that possible with Barkley not really having a great year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just basically any time you run the
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  Speaker 2: ball with a successful EPA right for play, Like basically,
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  Speaker 2: anytime you have a run that puts you in a
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  Speaker 2: position to score on the drive or keeps you ahead
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  Speaker 2: of the schedule, that is a successful run. So it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily have to be an explosive run, it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily have to be a first down, but it's just
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  Speaker 2: a run that keeps your drive going right.
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  Speaker 1: So, for example, if you get a Saquon Barkley three
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  Speaker 1: yard run on you know, second and four and that
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  Speaker 1: sets up a third and one, that's probably gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a high A plus percentage in your EPA, especially as
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  Speaker 1: with as good as the Eagles are converting third and
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  Speaker 1: fourth down right. So it may not be anything that's
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  Speaker 1: really attractive to the eye watching, but for an analytics standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: that's good. But nonetheless, the Eagles were way lower on
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  Speaker 1: their run success success according to your chart here, and
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  Speaker 1: way higher on their run stuff for eight. Yeah to me,
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  Speaker 1: this to me, sam is was very We went through
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  Speaker 1: this on inside the tape with Greg Cosel. I picked
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  Speaker 1: out six or seven my daughter will go six seven
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  Speaker 1: Barkley runs that were blown up because of either a
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  Speaker 1: missed block and it was like four different guys on
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  Speaker 1: the line, it wasn't one guy all the time. Or
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  Speaker 1: there were a couple of times where and this is
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  Speaker 1: where I was a little confused, where they would have
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  Speaker 1: a blocking scheme that didn't give them a mathematical advantage,
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  Speaker 1: which is sort of what you're trying to do. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: and a surprise that the play wasn't change so you
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  Speaker 1: credit the bucks. But yeah, there were there are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of issues right now at this running game, and
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  Speaker 1: they're not all Saquon. They may not be any bit
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  Speaker 1: to do with Saquon Barkley.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what I was gonna say. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it's Saquon. Yeah, really, I really don't think
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 1: But I do agree with this assessment. They're probably one
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  Speaker 1: block or like a little bit away. I think the
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  Speaker 1: breakout is gonna come.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it certainly is. Uh, there's a lot of minor
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  Speaker 2: things that the Eagles need to fix, and I think
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  Speaker 2: they are probably trying to and they're they're doing you know,
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  Speaker 2: when they're breaking down film, you know, they see what
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing. They also have a lot of experience in
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  Speaker 2: fixing those things, so you gotta stay a little bit optimistic,
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  Speaker 2: maybe cautiously optimistic, but I think it's coming. I think
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  Speaker 2: you're right.
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  Speaker 1: H What was what jumped out of you about the
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  Speaker 1: stacked box percentage? Stacked box percentage, because there's something that
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  Speaker 1: jumped out to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would have guessed it would have
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  Speaker 2: been higher than a third of their plays, but who
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  Speaker 2: knows where that came from the second half? Right? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think if you look at them, if they did
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  Speaker 2: have a split percentage based on the half, I think
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  Speaker 2: it would be significantly higher in the first half. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, this percentage is just of this
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mess your success, just how often they saw one
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  Speaker 1: or the other. Correct, right?
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  Speaker 2: Correct?
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  Speaker 1: So the Bucks basically said, we see that your run
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  Speaker 1: game is struggling, and we're gonna give you a light
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  Speaker 1: box on more than half of your alignments, which is
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  Speaker 1: pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I do think that you have to eat
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  Speaker 2: you almost have to view it in the two halves
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  Speaker 2: because it was just two completely different games, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha? All right? Good stuff there on the offensive numbers
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  Speaker 1: there for the Eagles, both on the season and how
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  Speaker 1: they compared to against the Bucks. Let's get to the
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  Speaker 1: star of the stat sheet. I like how you broke
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  Speaker 1: it up first half. Jalen Hurts is definitely the star
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  Speaker 1: of the stat sheet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I almost wanted to put like a first half
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  Speaker 2: sticker on top of Hurts because I mean, that's really
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  Speaker 2: where you're getting this start. I almost did two defensive
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  Speaker 2: stars with the stat sheet, but I think based on
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  Speaker 2: the format the way I've been doing it, it made
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  Speaker 2: sense to still split it up offense defense. So let
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about Jalen Hurts in the first half. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts in the first half fifteen to sixteen on
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  Speaker 2: passes for one hundred and thirty yards two touchdowns. He
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  Speaker 2: recorded a seventy percent success rate in the first half,
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  Speaker 2: which was the second highest start a game in his career,
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  Speaker 2: and Hurtz had zero tight window throws in the first half.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love that, Sam, that you put that.
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  Speaker 1: So what this tells me, and I'm taking nothing away
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  Speaker 1: from anybody, God it hurts, Patula, whatever, But what it
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  Speaker 1: tells me is they came out with a plan that
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: was specific to what the Bucks do on defense, and
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the plan worked. They got exactly what they wanted to
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the point where they didn't even have to quote unquote
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: struggle as far as threading tight windows or making things
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: happen off script, except for the nice twenty eight yard
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: run that that Hurts had, but that was a big
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: part of it as well the efficiency. And then as
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: we get into the second half, you'll see when they
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: when the other team decided to change the plan, they
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: did not change with it as well.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or whatever they tried to change just didn't work.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Well, that's yes, that's what I mean.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know which was worse. I think that
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: distinction is important, right, because if they tried to change
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: and weren't successful, I think that's better than not changing
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: at all. Uh.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with you on that. And I listen,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: these coaches been coaching for a while. I think they
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: can tell when a defense is going from six and
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: seven man rushers to three man rushers and a lot
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: of guys dropping. So I imagine that the play calling
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: was different to combat that it was. I think you
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: saw it. There was a variety of throws that were
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: either well defended or just not in the vicinity. But
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: if you want to tell me that you think from
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a route concept, there was a poor adjustment to what
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: they're doing. I could believe that as well.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred would want to talk about Hurts in
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: the second half, Yeah, let's go all right. Hurts only
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: had one successful drop back the rest of the game,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: recording his second lowest success rate nine point one percent
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: in the second half of his career.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: That's amazing in a.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Bad way, but certainly amazing.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Nonetheless, honestly, it was like watching two different games.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah again, went oh for eight passing in the second half,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: with five attempts into tight windows. So five of those
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: eight were into tight windows, and Hurts was only blitzed
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: one time.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Right, that's unbelievable. The five attempts into tight windows on
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: eight passes, I think has to make you wonder if
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the change from heavy blitzing with occasional man although you
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: know there were a lot of zone behind those blitzes,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: but into the second half of passing into coverage and
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of rotation, there was a lot
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of uh, you know, Vic does this too, There was
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of it looks like one then it becomes
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: another thing. If that made those tight window throws for
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Hurts because he thought he was getting an opening and
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: then he closed at the last second because of a
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: change in the defensive alignment.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's totally plausible and makes a lot
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: of sense. But either way, I mean, he didn't convert
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: any of the tight window throws, which is interesting because
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Hurts generally succeeds at tight window throws sort of out
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: of necessity, but it's also just the style of the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: receivers that he has and the offense, they tend to
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: thrive in tight windows. Yeah, and they just didn't in
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: the second half.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: And that as we go to the spray chart, which
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: is this is kind of a typical Hurts spray chart,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: right where mostly, if not all, of throws are outside
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the numbers here.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think it's interesting that, you know, they
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: were testing the left side of the field a little
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: bit more than the right. I don't know if that's
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: always necessarily a thing, but I do think it's clearingly
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: obvious when you look at the spray chart that you
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: know there was a reason they were going that way.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, it's it's very different than the
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: spray chart we saw last week, but you know, it's
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: a win. He's still got a win out of it,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: so yeah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a couple more deep ball you see,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: they're all now they're incompletions. But I think this is
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the most amount of passes we've seen this year. I
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: think where he's had at least one to three of
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: twenty five to forty or more. Yards.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if you would expect.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, when the guy when the defense comes out
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to you. Although I think a lot of these came
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: in the second half weirdly, but I just shows you
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: how off kilt they were.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I think so too. I mean there's one that's that's
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: hiding it by the thirty plus thirty yards on the
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: left side. I don't know if you saw that one too. Yeah,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: but I mean there's a decent amount. I think there's
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: four over twenty yards and five over fifteen yards. So
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I mean that they did try to move the ball
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: down the field, but it just didn't. I mean the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: only complete did one out of the four over twenty
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and two out of the five over fifteen right right.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: It's so weird, Like the signature Jalen Hurts play is
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the deep shot down the sideline, and yet here you
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: basically see over three on those attempts. So just a
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: weird game, man, very weird game. All right, What else
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: about the offense here?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Hurts had his rushing success rate of
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: fifty five point six percent with a plus zero point
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: eight EPA per attempt. So again, Hurts contributing by running
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the ball, whether it's a scramble or a design quarterback run,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: he is still being effective and probably was one of
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the most effective players on the field, which is another
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: reason why I think he is the star of the
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: stat sheet, because I mean, listen, he is still contributing
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: positively when he's moving the ball, whether it's passing or running.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Speaking of running, Barkley had a rushing success rate of
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: thirty one point six percent, which was the lowest on
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the team. It's Braiden Man.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Braiden Man's scramble in the end zone taking a safety.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: That's got to count. They all count.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Saquon Barkley's EPA per attempt was minus zero point
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: zero eight, which basically averages don't work this way. But
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: for the sake of argument, let's just say he basically
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: took away everything that hurts it brought. Yeah, I mean
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the numbers again, it's average, so it's not like total.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: You'd have to look at the total numbers to say that,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: but just for the sake of illustration, we're just going
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to say that he was again not his fault, I
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: don't think I wouldn't say, but it took away essentially
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: what hurts provided.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So I would also think that the fifty fifth because
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: we always talk about EPA, it's it's heavily weighted by
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: plays they give you an opportunity to score, and he
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: had that twenty eight yard run on the front, which
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I thought, I think is actually the most important play
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: of the first half despite all the great passing, because
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: that was a backbreaker that I believe. The very next
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: play was the touchdown shovel to Goddard out of the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: diamond formation, and you know you had them. You set
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that up with a huge run right into their lower
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: red zone.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you're absolutely right, and I think that's
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a really good point.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: All right, So pass catchers what jumps out here?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, pass catches were over forty yards, with Goddard
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: having thirty seven and two touchdowns which were really you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: designer touchdowns for both for Goddard. I'm sure no one's
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: complaining about that, but I do think it's worth saying
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Barkley had thirty one yards and Smith twenty nine. Notable
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: receiving EPA. Smith led the team at plus four point six.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Sixteen yard catch by the way, on third down on
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the opening drive. I think it was third down. Yeah, no,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that was the week before. But he had a even
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: big left side catch on in the.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: First half, absolutely, which I'm sure it was a big
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: part of you know, the expected points added. Goddard plus
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: three point seven and then AJ Brown minus seven point one.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Wow. So even in the first half with all the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: passing fifteen to sixteen, You're right, that was mostly to Goddard.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Some dump the Barkley Smith that was a third down
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: It was a third and eight to DeVante Smith that
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I believe he hit him on the left side for
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: about fifteen sixteen yards. Yeah.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: A J.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Brown, who has you know, articulated as frustration? I wonder
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: how into the analytics A J. Brown is.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. May maybe you could ask him that.
• 24:36
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• 24:39
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• 24:44
  Speaker 1: So you have average separation yards? And I like that,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Johnny MATCHI leads all, I don't know what this says.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: It's weird. They line him up in the backfield a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: couple of times, and I had him run routes outside
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of that, So I don't know if that helps, like
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: skew the average, but.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, it certainly does, because it's when you're targeted, right.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: So a lot of what they did was they designed
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: touches for him, or at least designed him open and
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: warts hit him when there was no one around him.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So that's why that happened.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yep. And I know that the Barkley catches came against
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: blitzes where you know, seven guys would rush and he
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: would just throw it into a flat and Barkley was
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: wide open be able to make some plays there.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: But the two wide receivers that really jumps out one
• 25:27
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  Speaker 1: that they did. They bet their hands on some balls.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, they were very complimentary in their defense. Not
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  Speaker 1: Right. So I made an observation after the game. I
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: asked you to look into it because I felt like,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: even though aj Brown himself is not getting targeted the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: right way or as much, but even when he catches
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the ball, I've said to you, it seems like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's using his late hands, he's using his body. And
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I said, I I haven't seen yet a play from
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: maybe a couple of years ago where he also toasts
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a cornerback by five or ten yards down the side.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: That's a little excessive, but you know, three to five
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: yards down the sideline to get separation. So you looked
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: into the separation analytics and what did you come up
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: with here?
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Your inkling was absolutely correct. So I thought that the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: best way to do this was to break it down
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: on a per game basis or an average basis, just
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: because we're only four games into this season and I
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: don't think it's fair to compare unless you're looking at rates.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: So that being said, I think it's interesting looking at
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: his time with the Eagles that his targets per game,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: you know, they have gone down, but it's not too
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: far from what it was last year, which again may
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: have not been the best year for him. But his
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: receptions per game has been was pretty consistent around you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: five to six, and now it's at three point five,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: so that that has dropped pretty significantly. Wow, the yards
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: per game has dropped significantly. He was consistently in the
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: eighties last three years and now thirty seven point eight,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: and then you look at the yards per reception and
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: you know it kind of had a little bit of
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: variance through over the years, but it's low. I mean, look,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: if you look at the bottom, this year is the
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: lowest in almost every category, including air yard per target,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: but air yard per target's not that far off. But
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: what really stands out is the point that you wanted
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: me to look into, and the point of this chart
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: is his average separation.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: You know, that's when targeted, right, correct, when targeted? Yeah, okay,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that is a that's a pretty big drop from two
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: point six and twenty twenty two to two point four
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to two point one to one point seven. And then
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and your next category is your average separation ranking. So
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: look where he ranks.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's out of qualified receivers. And basically if
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you look at twenty twenty two, I mean, he was
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: sixty eight out of eighty four, it's not that's not
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: his game, right, He's not. What he's a lead at
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: is because you can throw to him regardless of separation, right,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: So it's not doesn't need to be a big part
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of his game. But then it went from sixty nine
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: to eight out of eighty one. And last year was
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: the worst, it was eighty three out of eighty four.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: This year not much better, seventy seven out of seventy nine.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the rankings to me are the average separation
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: number is a little more alarming than the rankings for
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: what you just said. Plus, he only went from two
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: point six to two point four, or he went from
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: two point six to two point four in twenty twenty
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: two and twenty twenty three, and his ranking kind of
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: stayed the same, and then it dropped a little to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: two point one, and the rankings dropped a lot. So
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: that that all. That's when you're being compared against others, right,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: But it's really you're just compared against yourself though, right,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: your your average separation to go from two point six
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty two to one point set, we're almost
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: talking about a full yard in the last four years,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: is a little bit of a red flag for me,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: just because that's an individual stat like, are you not
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: getting the separation you used to get? And why not?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Well? I think part of it is that, But I
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: do think another part of it is trust, right, I mean,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: if you trust your guy, you're gonna throw him in
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: tighter windows. And I think that the chemistry between aj
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Brown and Jalen hurts certainly contributed to some of this,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: some of the reduction. I mean, Hurts is has and
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: will put the ball in tighter windows to aj Brown
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: because he knows he's gonna make it. I don't think
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: that explains all of it, but I do think it's
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: worth acknowledging the fact that that is part of this explanation.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Definitely.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: It's probably the more optimistic outlook, and it's probably not
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the largest factor. I think the largest factor is the
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: fact that he's just not separating well.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I throw in the fact that he
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: has constantly battled some knee issues and over the course
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: of four years, especially with the first two where he
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: was used a lot for like you have here, eight
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: point five targets, nine point three targets in twenty twenty three,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: eighty eight yards per game eighty five. Then he had
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: a hamstring injury last year. He had a hamstring injury
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: all throughout camp this year, which may contribute to some
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: of this. But if you combine the hamstring and the
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: knees and the aging, now I mean, he's not twenty
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: three anymore. I just think this. I asked you to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: do this because I wanted to see if there's a trend.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: We know that there's a trend. It's a small sample size,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: but I really do want to revisit this halfway through
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the season and at the end of the season and say, hey,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: is any of this a sign that aj Brown is
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: not the receiver he used to be physically and not
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: getting the separation over the long haul. If all these
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: numbers regress back to somewhere close by the end of
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the year to the mean for him, then it's not
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: a red flag. And I'm not making a red flag now,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: but it's just something I wanted to have you bring
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to everybody's attention. Yeah.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And my guess is there will be a positive
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: regression to some extent. Whether it goes to his average
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: or whether it's resembling what we've seen in the past,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: who knows, but I think there inevitably will be a
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: positive regression, right.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Or a progression as as we would say, right, I
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: like a positive regression. I guess it sounds like what
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: do you call that? A oxymoron?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, but it's just regressing to the meme regardless
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: of direction. It's just it is an interesting concept for sure.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go on to the offensive line. And
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I can tell you just from a tapewatch. As I
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: already mentioned, the interior of the old line has not
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: been great this year, and they missed some blocks in
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the run game, especially against the Tampa Bay Bucks.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't have to spend a lot of
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: time here, but I think you're right. I think the
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: interior offensive line was a significant issue, mostly because Steen
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: allowed a pressure every seven snaps and landa Dickerson every
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: eight snaps.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and again. And this is this isn't run block,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: this is past blocking.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: This is fast block.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: People all understand. I see more positives. And I mean
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: obviously when you face a team with a good defensive
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: front that blitzes a lot, and you have to really
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: be on your your cues. And I mean, great job.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I joined my lot of there. Good on Matt Pryor.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: In the four snaps he played, Fred Johnson once again
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: comes in plays well lane Johnson two hurries, okay, but
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: he was also playing with obviously an injury that made
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: him leave in twenty seven snaps. Steen's four and twenty
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: eight is not great. I agree with that, and then
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: of course Dickerson's two and thirty two. I mean, six
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: hurries between your two guards and then one between your
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: center is not great. I think you're the one who
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: always says centers really should have zero, right, because they're
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: always usually in a double team. Although I guess when
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you're seeing this many blitzes there probably were in a
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: five out situation a lot.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in that case it should be more than zero.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: But center is usually you're you're you know, you're you're
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: in the trenches. You're deep within the trenches. You should
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: usually be okay, right right.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Overall, I don't think anything here is overly bad. Would
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you agree?
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say overly bad, no, but concerning.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah. I mean again, if they were facing just
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: a four man rush a lot and I saw these
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: kind of hurry numbers, I would be like, oh man,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: But they were facing a lot of pressure in the
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: first half for sure, manufactured pressure. All right. So let's
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: talk about the defense now.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so again, just change the format how to explain it,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: just because I think this is a better way to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: understand it. Again, the middle column Eagles on the season.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: The one on the right is the Eagles versus Tampa
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Bay and this is in the defense. So again, negative
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: numbers are better here. Positive numbers are worse, at least
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: in the EPA context.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Right, And clearly they did better defensively against the Bucks
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: than they were doing for the season. They made it
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: hard on the Bucks.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was obvious.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Watching the game.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: And again, save those two explosive plays from the Bucks,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: and these numbers would be completely different.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: The Eagles defense played pretty lights out besides those two plays. Right,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I will say that, you know Fangio's comments about the
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: kicking balls and the fact that they were able to
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: make extra those aren't field goals in last year's NFL
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: or any time before, I agree, which I think is
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: an important point. That just shows that this defense really
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: did a good job limiting the Bucks.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yep. And it took them longer to get pressure, and
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the Bucks have more time to throw right than ordinarily,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: But I feel like that was because of Baker's ability
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: to kind of move around and Yeah, and then not
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of those times there were completed passes, so
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: he was able to hold onto the ball. He wasn't
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: getting pressured as much, but he also didn't complete a
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: high percentage of passes.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, that the best way you can say it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: And you can see that net time before throw has
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: been better on the season. H just exactly to the
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: point you just made, right, And.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: That's why the Egles have a higher pressure and set
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: percentage in this game than they had in previous games. Yep,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: all right, Bucks receivers got a little bit higher of
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: an average separation.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Probably. Wait is that skewed a little bit by the
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: two big plays or is that not councul So those
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: were not real separation plays.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Well, the one tight window one was not separate. That
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: didn't have much separation, right, Baker threaded that ball. It
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: was one of the best throws I've seen, honestly, do
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: so much credit to Baker Mayfield in that throw. Most
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks as an incompletion or an interception. Yeah, but the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: one did Bucky Irving. I believe he was pretty wide open,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: so that one certainly.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was sort of like he just
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: led him with a bit because he had already slipped
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: past Campbell and scramble drill and slipped past him. Yeah.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Run stuff percent so the Eagles. So this means Eagles
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: have been stuffing runs at a twelve point four percent rate,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: but only did it at eleven point five percent rate
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: against the Bucks.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Is that correct?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Okay? I think that is that fair? Saic sort of
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: negligible that number.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I would say that's negligible.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it's not like the Bucks. I thought
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the Eagles missed some tackles and that needs to be
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: cleaned up. But I didn't think that they were like
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: out of gaps. You know, remember Week one against the
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Cowboys who ran up the middle pretty easily, and against.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: That, Yeah, and honestly, Cooper Degene and the alley that
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: cleans up very well. Yes, And honestly it makes sense
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: why you'd want to keep him inside because he's just
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: so good at stopping runs. You know, passed as well.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Huge part of it. The Eagles stacked the box less
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: frequently than they have on the season, and they showed
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: lighter boxes, yep less frequently. So not a whole lot
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: of respect for the Tampa Bay run game, which wasn't bad.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't think they feared it as much. Sure, yeah,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: all right, I love your start. By the way, I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: don't know if you heard it, but this is a
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: rare w for me. In the pregame show, we always
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: do a score prediction and a player of the game prediction,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: and I like to like not always take the quarterback
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: because I think that's sometimes obvious. So I chose Quinjon
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Mitchell as my pregame show player of the Game and
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I feel really good about that.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Well, congrats on that. Maybe you should give me the
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Powerball numbers too.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many people actually pick a cornerback for
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: player of the game, right, like in very rare.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: But to be honest with you, he was the player
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: of the game totally. He was the person that, regardless
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: of anyone, had to be the star of the statue.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: The other one I was considering, I actually had like
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: a box for it was Zach Bond and I'll explain
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: that later, but truly it is Quinon Mitchell.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Two receptions for six yards on six targets twenty two
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: matchups against Igbuka. Six came in tightwin. I mean, he
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: just did everything he had. He had an amazing pass
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: breakup on Godwin where he was diving and he used
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: his left hand. This was a third down. Baker scrambled
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to the right, threw it off the back foot onto
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: an out route on Godwin and he was there and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: as they're both in the air, sort of scrolled out.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: He uses his left hand to disrupt the ball, dislodge
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: it from Godwin who catches everything. And I'm like that,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that's like a living that's a matrix type of player.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: You're feet are.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Off the ground and you are horizontal and you still
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: have the aptitude to be able to break a pass
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: up in the moment. That was unbelievable.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to be honest with you, not only
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: the fact that he played well, but the fact that
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: he was targeted significantly.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one I don't understand. I mean, you got
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: keelyy Ringo on the other side and they still went
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: at Quinyon Mitchell.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if they were trying to make
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: a pointer, just saying that our guys are better and
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: we want to go to our best players. And you know, again,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Quinyon Mitchell took away the best options. Yeah, every time
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: he was on the field.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: To give our listeners these great stats have.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so first off, that the tight windows, the six
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: targets coming in tight windows is tied for the most
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: in any wide receiver quarterback matchup in a game since
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Wow, I would love to know which game that wasn't
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, but wow.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely interesting. Uh, maybe it was. Uh, you know,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans Lattimore wouldn't surprise me too much.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: That's a good one. Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: But also the Buccaneers lost minus five point seven EPA
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: when targeting AGBUCA against Mitchell and coverage. Let me say
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: that again. They lost minus five point seven expected points
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: at it. Wow, they lost essentially a touchdown by going afterwards.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. Oh my god. I can understand why even
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: with Ringo on the other side. I mean, who else
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: without Mike Evans did he have to trust to throw
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the ball or strolling Shepherd or I mean Godwin but
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Godwin was a Yeah, I guess I would have on Godwin,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: but Godwin's a slot guy mostly and he was probably
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: facing de Jene, so it's not easy.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right. But also I think it's worth
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: noting what you were saying, right when not matched up
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: against Mitchell or yeah, when not let against Mitchell, Iguka
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: exploded for the two for four ninety five yards a touchdown,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: which again very very tight window throw.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Right right, unbelievable. In Mitchell's other coverage opportunities, zero catches
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: on three. I mean, he was just unbelievable. And the
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: fact that he uncertained are going to be sharing the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: field on Sunday for the Bronco That's pretty awesome.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: It's a treat for people that love defensive football. Yes,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: but Mitchell led the team in QBR with thirty nine
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: point six and coverage EPA minus nine.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Wow. That's so that's more than a touchdown at that point.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing touchdown when everybody's involved. But I'm just saying,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: just ongmuka right the way a touchdown.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Right, That's that's that's phenomenal and almost hard to believe
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: given the Eagles years and years and decades of missing
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a cornerback that they were to hit so well on this,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I guess you know when you missed that long, when
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you hit, you're gonna hit like a bonfire.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, when we were at the Senior Bowl
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: that year, we saw him, he just looked different than
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: everybody else. Yeah, I mean, he truly did. And when
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the fact the Eagles took him, I mean, we weren't surprised,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: but it's incredible what he's turned into.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: All Right, I was surprised. Eagles took him. I surprised
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: you're still there. All right, let's let's go to the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: rest of the defense here. Yeah.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: So the Eagles defense generated a forty point nine percent
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: pressure rate on Baker Mayfield, their highest marxist the start
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four season.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting because one of the bigger issues with
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the Eagles is edge pressure. But also this is a
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: pressure rate, and we know that Vic is blitzing a
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: whole lot more this year than he has in the past,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: so he's creating a manufacturing pressure because he's clearly not
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: thrilled right now with his fore man rush. Yeah.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I think you're right, and I think that's important context
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: because they probably could have gotten much higher if they
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: were doing the blitz rate at what they are this year.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: But a very something that's that's exciting is ten different
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Eagles defenders generated at least one pressure, including five of
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: them with at least three pressures. Depending on which stat
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: you look at, they're different. This is next Gen stats,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: but PFFS actually has a little bit higher numbers for
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: some of these guys. But based on next Gen stats,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Bond was at five, Ojomo was at five, Smith was
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: four was four and Carter was three.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Which smith would that be? Oh, Zidarius?
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, And I think that this illustrates exactly what
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Bond is your leader in pressures with five
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: and he only pressures on sim pressures when VIC is
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: manufacturing them as opposed to just natural four man rush.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: So that's an example right there.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it hits your point home very well.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Twelve of the eighteen pressures came under two point five seconds,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: the first time the Eagles recorded a double digit quick
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: pressure total in a game since Week five, twenty twenty three.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's pretty good.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're getting there quickly. It's definitely a
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: you know, a good sign.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I definitely thought Mayfield was on the run a lot,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: scrambling thrown off his back foot. And of course, you
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: know the bucks we mentioned they had, they got better
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: on the old line with the worst coming back with
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: their right guard and right tackle were like third stringers.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And then finally just a general thing on Bond.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: He recorded five pressures, one sack, six defensive stops, and
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: allowed just one reception for one yard and coverage. He
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: generated four of his five pressures under two point five
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: seconds and now leads all linebackers save if it changed
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: on the Monday night games. But before that linebackers was
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: seven quick pressures this season.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Wow. You know, there's a whole generation of Eagles fans,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: probably around your age, Sam, that just can't comprehend the
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Eagles having a lockdown cornerback, a lockdown slot cornerback, and
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: also two off the ball linebackers who are incredible.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: That's not even talking about Nakcobe Dean yet coming back eventually.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, going to the d line and
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: the pass rushing stats and can compel to you positively
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: or negatively here.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: So for this one, obviously a car Quon quote hopefully
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't Butcher that, Wow, isn't out for the season.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: He's out for the season. So it's kind of I
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: do want to say it's impressive as get off was
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: point six. Yeah, but when you have a point six
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: get off and generate no pressures, you know that doesn't
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: feel great. But then you look at the pass rushing
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: it's only two and you're like, okay, that kind of
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: makes sense. But that's it's a shame to lose him
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: because I mean that that's very exciting to see point
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: six get off. You don't really see that so much.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: That's pretty elite. But either way that it's a shame
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: they're gonna have to figure something out. I will say that,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: you know, you look at the other guys, uh, and
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: they're all under point eight for get off. You feel
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: really good about that. And then you see Ouch is
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: back at fifty five point six percent win rate on
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: seventeen and generated five pressures. You feel really good about that.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I like the fact that is Darius Smith
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: had the slowest get off but the second highest pressure
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: rate and almost as many hurries as and pressures as
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Uce On. Well, he did play twice as many steps,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: but still.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: It goes to show you that just because you get
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: there fast doesn't mean you're gonna win, right. I mean
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Smith is technical, I mean he gets through, he gets
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: he got there still very fast, but he was able
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: to still win just because of his skill set and
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: moves right.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: And I like how you put it here. For those
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: who are new, win percentage is when you beat the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: blocker within two point five seconds of the snap, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you know then there's some extra content. Elite is twenty
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: percent or more. Average ten to fifteen, so Zadaria Smith
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: thirty point eight and fifty five point six on just
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: seventeen snaps were very very good.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and typically these numbers are like those elite numbers
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: are much better if you look at the season. Yeah,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: but you know, in this little context, is still awful.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: And then same thing with the interior defensive line. There
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: were a couple of times that the Eagles executed some
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: really good stunts, like the Ojomo sak on third down
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: that was huge in the fourth quarter. Came on a
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: stunt as well. Byron Young got in on a stunt
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: which did a nice job. So again, Vic, a lot
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: of this is VIC manufacturing things and the D line coach,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you know, really scheming. Well.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and again notably with the interior, like
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: anything under one second is pretty good, and everybody was
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: under one second.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Almo's best game of the season, by the way,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: because we've been talking about a Jomo and really where
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: has he been, Like, he had a great training camp,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: This was his best.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Game and I don't think it will be his best
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: game by end of season, probably not, but I do
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: think so far, You're absolutely right. Yeah, I mean, listen
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: him and Carter, both having eighteen point eight percent win rate.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Great the get off, you know, both of them decent getoffs,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: pretty good get offs actually had especially Yeah.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: A little bit of a step back for Jordan Davis,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: but you know that's you know, you're not gonna be
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: amazing every game.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: That's true, and he still contributed so and he got
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: one pressure.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: So hey, fall is planting season. Did you know that
• 49:45
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  Speaker 1: the two things that sort of jump out at me,
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  Speaker 1: Sam are one to monitor in the future of the
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  Speaker 1: aj Brown separation stats and see how that does. And
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  Speaker 1: two from a defensive standpoint, this defense is starting to
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  Speaker 1: become backwards from what the Eagles used to be, which
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  Speaker 1: is front four rush or pressure up front rush and
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  Speaker 1: then help out the back end. It seems like the
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  Speaker 1: back end is the star and helps out the rush.
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  Speaker 2: It's so weird to say that, but you're right, You're
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  Speaker 1: And then when I say back, I'm not even just
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  Speaker 1: talking about the corners, but like from off ball linebacker
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  Speaker 1: to corner to safety. The is really just a full
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  Speaker 1: complete one eighty from what the Eagles used to be.
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  Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, and I think Fangio is savvy and
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  Speaker 2: that he realizes that, and it's it's incredible to see,
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  Speaker 2: you know, have that consistency at defensive coordinator, someone who
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  Speaker 2: knows the game extremely well and is able to adjust
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  Speaker 2: to it. And I'm not I don't think the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: are done acquiring people. I do think you're going to
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: see potentially another edge, either signed or traded. Something's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen there. I have a feeling, and honestly you
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  Speaker 2: would know way more about that than I would. But
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  Speaker 2: that's my gut, well.
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  Speaker 1: You know my gut. And then plus knowing the team
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  Speaker 1: is that and knowing getting no Vic is that Vic
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  Speaker 1: probably is not happy that he's had the Blitz at
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: a thirty five to thirty six percent when he's normally
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  Speaker 1: in the eighteen to twenty two percent. So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's working for them, and he has players to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I think he loves I. If you
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  Speaker 1: shot him up with true siam, which you don't have
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  Speaker 1: loves the fact that they won the Super Bowl without
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: blitzing a single time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think so too. I mean it
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: was incredible feat by everyone, but especially by Vic. And
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: the Eagles are spoiled right now, they really are.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: They are all right, great stuff, Sam. Thanks. We'll do
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: it again next week after the Eagles play the Broncos,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: and then we'll go have to figure out some short
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: turnaround for that Giants. We'll have to pump this out
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: a little quicker as the Giants play on Thursday night
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: of the following week. So for Sam Finkel, I'm Jeff Mosher.
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