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Jelly Roll chooses Jesus over politics at the Grammys · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  You're listening to the Hidden Lightness on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
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  I'm your host, Jimmy Hinton.
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  The Grammys.
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  I didn't watch them.
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  In fact, I don't know that I've ever watched the Grammys in my entire life.
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  But this year they made it all about ice.
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  And this is what we talk about.
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  The entertainers that all of a sudden they become relevant on everything moral.
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  You know, the people who write really awful lyrics, they're usually the ones who are telling us how to behave, what to do, how to live our lives, what we need to believe in, how we need to vote.
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  And uh one by one, people got up, and I'll play some audio clips as the show unfolds.
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  I have to be careful because they were riddled with all kinds of colorful language.
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  No surprises there.
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  But as it went on, it kept going from bad to worse.
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  I've seen clips.
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  Um Billie Eilish.
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  She had to be bleeped out because she went on a big rant, you know, telling everybody how to live their lives, and then she said F ice.
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  Only she didn't say F.
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  She said the real deal.
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  And on and on.
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  It's it's like this parade of people who are just so angry.
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  And they talk about how protesting is the way to go.
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  Billy Eilish.
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  Yeah, we need to keep protesting.
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  You know, it's this idea go out in the streets, wreak havoc, shut things down.
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  Meanwhile, I saw a video clip of Minneapolis, and this guy was just walking through in utter disbelief.
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  And he said, literally, every single car that's parked on the side has its windows smashed out.
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  There was something like 60 smashed windows in a row.
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  Every single car.
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  And he was walking down.
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  Yeah, he's he's filming it.
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  He's showing.
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  He's like, look at this.
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  He's like, these are residents.
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  These are people who live here.
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  And they broke into every single car.
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  And they didn't just smash the windows, they smashed and grabbed.
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  You know, and and and that's this entitlement mentality that we all owe something to these people.
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  You know, they they're they're turning on their own.
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  I've shown you uh several stories of that, where the anti-ICE agitators are turning on their own, they're literally attacking their own and threatening to kill them and uh calling them ice, and these people are like, We're we're not ice, we're anti-ICE, we're just like you, and the people don't believe it, and they're like, F you, like they're just so angry, you know, the party of tolerance, they're so angry all the time, and just constantly telling people how to live their lives, and I want to contrast that.
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  Like, this is what the story's all about today.
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  Now we'll talk about we'll talk about the the good, the bad, and the ugly, and there was plenty of ugly, but of course, this is the hidden lightness, and we're gonna talk about the good.
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  I want to contrast one person who really stood out at the Grammys.
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  I mean, really stood out, and I've done a story on him before about just what a what a decent human he is, and what a hard worker and and what a humble guy, and that would be none other than jelly roll.
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  And I I want to play this clip for you because it's so so powerful.
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  Now keep in mind his story.
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  He grew up in a really tough neighborhood and got into drugs, he was pedaling drugs, he was doing drugs, and Jelly Roll said he wound up in prison, and he said, I wasn't that guy.
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  Like uh the person I had become is not the person who I am.
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  I've always had a good heart, I've always been gentle, I've always loved people, and he really hated what he had become, and he said underneath the surface, I knew that jelly roll was still in there, that the real jelly roll, the the the soft-spoken gentle guy, he was still in there, and so he wrote his music from this this place of pain and overcoming, overcoming addiction, uh finding grace and forgiveness for all the people he had hurt in his life.
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  And uh he's just such a humble dude, and every time I hear him talk, I just I I get more and more impressed, but I want you to hear what he said.
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  Now keep in mind the entire theme for the Grammys was well, basically two things.
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  Uh, you know hang your body parts out, you know, bear all and curse ice.
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  Like that was pretty much the theme for the whole night.
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  And uh Jelly Roll rolls up to the microphone and listen what he says.
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  The hell was a Bible this big and a radio the same size and a six by eight foot sale, and I believe that those two things could change my life.
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  I believe that music had the power to change my life, and God had the power to change my life, and I want to tell y'all right now, Jesus is for everybody, Jesus is not owned, that one political party, Jesus is not owned, but no music label!
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  Jesus is Jesus, and anybody can have a relationship with him.
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  I love you, Lord.
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  Isn't that cool?
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  I mean, what a classy dude.
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  And you can actually hear people cheering.
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  I know I don't think everybody was cheering because he didn't get as many loud cheers as as what Billy Eilish did.
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  Billy Eilish, when she said F ice, I mean the room went absolutely crazy.
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  They were just, oh yeah, rah-rah-rah.
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  Jelly Roll, his message was apolitical.
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  Uh it was it was non-political.
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  He said, uh Jesus doesn't belong to any political party.
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  He's for everyone.
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  And he changed my life.
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  And Jelly Roll was high he was holding a Bible in his hand, and I thought that was so cool.
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  And I'm sure people are critics are gonna come out and talk about how this was it was staged.
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  You know, you remember when Trump held his Bible and people absolutely flipped out, which I think that's part of why he did it, uh, just to get under the skin of people.
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  But that's kind of the difference.
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  You know, Jelly Roll didn't do this to agitate people, he did it because he legitimately is a good dude, and he legitimately cares about Jesus.
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  And God really changed Jelly Roll's life.
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  Every time you hear him talk about it, he gets so passionate and so emotional.
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  And I thought, my goodness, this is what America needs right now.
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  We need jelly roll.
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  We need people like him who are gonna stand up and instead of pointing the finger at people and telling them how to live their lives and how to vote, and if you voted for orange man, I can't be friends with you, or the opposite.
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  If you voted for a liberal, I can't be friends with you, and you know, it's just absolute stupidity.
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  What a bunch of people have become.
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  And Jelly Roll took the high road, and I man, I just can't commend him enough.
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  He really took the high road.
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  He didn't care what people what people thought about him.
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  He put his truth out there, he put the truth out there that Jesus is the only way.
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  I mean, it was so black and white, and I love that.
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  The Bible says, let your yes be yes and your no be no black and white.
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  Something liberals don't.
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  They don't know how to do that.
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  It's everything's fluid, right?
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  Everything's fluid.
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  Everything's changing, everything's adapting, everything's evolving, everything's constantly changing, but it but only if it bends to them.
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  And I thought this was really interesting.
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  I heard somebody talking about this.
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  How if you listen to the people who talk about Don Lemon getting arrested, that they're all getting in tears, and all these liberal uh announcers, they're in tears, and they're like, they just don't, they don't understand the Justice Department doesn't understand the First Amendment.
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  It it's the the
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  Right of free press, freedom of speech.
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  They're trampling on the First Amendment.
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  They forget the part about the First Amendment that deals with religion.
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  Right?
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  They they skip over that part.
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  Here's what the First Amendment says.
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  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.
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  It's the very first thing in the First Amendment.
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  Religion, not freedom of speech.
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  It's religion.
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  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
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  Huh.
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  When you prohibit the free exercise of religion, you're breaking the First Amendment.
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  And then it continues, or a bridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.
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  Or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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  All right.
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  So there's a lot packed in there.
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  But people absolutely have the right to practice religion without fear of prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
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  People absolutely have the right of free speech, the freedom of speech, so long as it's not threatening or harmful.
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  Or of the press.
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  The press has the right.
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  They have the right to cover stories to write what they're gonna write.
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  What they don't have the right to do is to prohibit the free exercise of religion.
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  Like Don Lemon, did you see that he kissed the organizer, the agitator, the lady who organized that whole thing?
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  He kissed her on the cheek and said, You're doing a great job.
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  Like he kind of whispered it, you're doing a great job.
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  Kissed her on the cheek.
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  I mean, if if if he's really neutral, if he's really unbiased, why is he kissing this agitator on the cheek and telling her, good job?
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  Yeah, you stormed into that church.
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  Good job.
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  I love when he went in there.
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  Just I I just happened to be in the neighborhood.
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  I didn't even know this uh this was going on.
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  Yeah.
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  You expect us to believe that this whole thing was secret, you didn't have any clue that they were going to storm inside that church.
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  You just happened to be at the right place at the exactly the right time.
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  And you walked right inside of that church and started shoving a microphone in in the faces of people as they're trying to worship.
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  So they forget about the other parts of the First Amendment.
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  That people have the right to peaceably assemble.
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  There's nothing peaceful about smashing 60 windows in a row and stealing personal items from people's cars.
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  It's okay to be angry.
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  I mean, if people are angry if it at uh the unjustices that are happening with ice, they have the right to be angry about it.
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  Absolutely 100%.
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  But this whole notion that, you know, F ice and we need to we need to protest, and we need to get in their faces, and we need to we need to make noise and we need to block roads, and we need to honk our horns as as they're entering people's houses.
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  You know, what what do they think that's gonna accomplish?
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  You know, I saw a video where ice went inside.
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  They went inside somebody's apartment, and people are honking the horn and blowing their whistles.
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  It's like at that point, what are they gonna do?
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  Oh, oh, I hear a whistle, I hear horns honking.
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  I'm gonna jump out the window.
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  I'm gonna hide under the bed.
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  Like, what do they think that's gonna accomplish?
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  But anyway, it it's the I guess they have the right to blow whistles or whatever, but um destroying people's property.
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  That's a big hard no.
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  But that's what the Grammys were all about until jelly roll stepped out to them like, and what a graceful dude.
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  Uh, he ended up winning three trophies.
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  Here's an article of the taste of country.com.
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  He declined to comment either on stage or backstage in the press room when asked directly if he'd weigh in on the current political climate.
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  The singer said he wouldn't.
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  That's how it's done.
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  Jelly roll, man.
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  I applaud you.
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  That's how it's done.
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  Can you imagine if this is how the entertainment industry behaves?
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  If if they all did what Jelly Roll did, do you realize how few problems we'd have with properties getting destroyed, people getting shot, things escalating.
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  Uh we'd have a whole lot less problems.
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  I mean, and and he sees it.
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  And I really genuinely, I don't think that he was avoiding uh, you know, gotchas.
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  I think he legitimately he just wasn't there to talk about politics.
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  This was a time to celebrate God.
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  It was the time to celebrate God's talents that he that he gave Jelly Roll.
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  Uh, it was a time to celebrate other people, to cheer them on, to applaud them.
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  You know, people work hard for these awards, and jelly roll was there to support and to celebrate, and that was it.
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  You know, this this wasn't meant to be a political gathering.
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  So good on jelly roll.
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  I mean, how fantastic.
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  Well, the Grammys were a complete bust in my opinion.
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  Except for except for Jelly Roll.
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  He was, by and large, the highlight of the Grammys.
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  I mean, what a stand-up dude.
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  And I have a longer clip that I want to play for you here in a little bit.
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  But first I want to talk about some of the some of the stuff that went on at the Grammys.
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  And uh I have a friend here who who just posted, I mean, just a little bit ago, but he said, from what I can gather, the Grammys celebrated a guy who refuses to tour in the country that made him wealthy.
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  Clips performed a groundbreaking song that uses the N-word ten times and brags about selling cocaine.
• 20:42
  Justin Bieber gave an quote honest performance while wearing only a pair of stoke boxers.
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  I've been hearing about that that he he didn't have anything on but a pair of underwear.
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  So bizarre.
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  And these are the people we're supposed to take seriously.
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  They're the ones who talked to us about living a moral life and doing the right thing.
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  He went on, he said, Heidi Klum dressed like an uncooked chicken.
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  Did you see what she wore?
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  I mean, the stupidity.
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  And I know people, oh, that's culture.
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  You don't understand.
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  You're not cultured.
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  You don't understand.
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  They're making a statement.
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  She literally wore.
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  I heard her talking about it while she was wearing the whatever that thing.
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  I don't want to call it a dress because it's not what it is.
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  She had somebody, I guess, get a mold of her body using latex or something.
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  Or I I don't even know what.
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  And then made supposedly a leather dress, and then tried to match the color to her skin to make it look nude.
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  And she looked like so stiff.
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  She waddled out on stage.
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  I was watching her, and she couldn't even walk in this dumb thing.
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  Like it's just.
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  How to be moral people, how to be upright citizens.
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  He says, uh, my friend goes on to say, Lady Gaga performed with a lampshade on her head.
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  And Joni Mitchell only figured out that she was at the Grammys while receiving a uh uh a reward for the 20th plus consecutive year.
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  I'm very, very glad that I didn't turn on the TV.
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  Amen.
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  That's why I don't watch it.
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  It is a colossal waste of time.
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  And I don't even really love talking about it today, to be honest.
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  It's not what I want to be talking about right now.
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  But I wanted to highlight Jelly Roll.
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  And I wanted to highlight what a great guy he is, and just how humble he is.
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  Um let's see.
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  Here's here's a clip of Billy Eilish.
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  Um I'm gonna play that.
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  Billy Eilish uh sounds sounded to me like a robot.
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  Just no emotion whatsoever.
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  And uh, well, I'll let you hear her speech for whatever it was.
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  No one is illegal on stolen land.
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  Really hard to know what to say and what to do right now.
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  And I just I feel really hopeful in this room, and I feel like we just need to keep fighting and speaking up and protesting, and our our voices really do matter, and the people matter, and um I say sorry.
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  So she they bleeped it out there, but she said F ice.
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  Uh-huh.
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  Sorry.
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  No, you're not.
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  You're not sorry at all.
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  It's you think that we're living on stolen land, and that's the difference between entitled people who they just feel like everything is owed to them.
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  Yeah, we're we're on stolen land, and uh you know, nobody's illegal on stolen land, and uh well, we actually have laws.
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  Like it's not like President Trump is making up laws.
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  We have laws that have been laws since the founding of our nation.
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  And people were literally pouring over the border.
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  I'm millions of people pouring over the border.
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  Now, again, I'll say this over and over.
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  It's not that I approve of the way that IC is handling the the whole border situation.
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  I I think there are so many policies that are really detrimental to people.
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  People seeking legitimate asylum here.
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  People who are here under legal refugee strat status, who that's now expired, and they have to leave.
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  And they have to go back to the countries where their family members perished.
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  And it just puts a huge target on their back.
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  And you know, I I think what about the people who really legitimately are doing everything in their power to be legal, and they're they're going back home.
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  You know, this has been their home.
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  And they're going back to what once was their home.
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  And it's just making them extremely vulnerable.
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  So it's not that, you know, people are rubber stamping what Trump is doing, and they're like, oh my goodness, like bow down to Trump because he's so amazing.
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  It's uh it's terrible.
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  Some of the things, some of the policies are just absolutely terrible.
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  And I think we need to be honest about that.
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  And I think, again, I think it's okay to protest that.
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  It's perfectly fine to protest that peacefully.
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  And I think that people ought to be talking to lawmakers and saying, what is going on?
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  You know, what are some of these policies that are happening right now?
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  But what we're getting from the people who look down on is they look down the brim of their noses, the Billy Eilishes of the world.
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  There are there are no illegal people on stolen land.
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  That's not how this works.
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  And secondly, it's not stolen land.
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  If that's how you feel about this nation, they're just so ungrateful.
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  You know, and then you compare that with again with what Jelly Roll said.
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  He's so grateful.
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  And in fact, let me play this longer clip for you.
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  I was gonna wait until till later in the show, but just while we're on the subject.
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  Listen to how radical the difference is.
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  You can't get more black and white.
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  You can't get more opposite.
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  You you can't.
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  And uh it's the longer clip.
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  And then he gives commentary at the end, which I I won't play here, but uh, he gives a little bit of commentary at the beginning, but listen to this.
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  Platform last night.
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  Check it out.
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  First of all, Jesus, I hear you, and I'm listening, Lord.
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  I am listening, Lord.
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  Second of all, I want to thank my beautiful wife.
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  I would have never changed my life without you.
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  I'd ended up dead or in jail, I'd have killed myself if it wasn't for you and Jesus.
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  I thank you for that.
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  There was a time in my life, y'all, that I was I was broken.
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  That's why I wrote this album.
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  I didn't think I had a chance, y'all.
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  There was days that I thought the darkest things, I was a horrible human.
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  There was a moment in my life that all I had was a Bible this big and a radio the same size and a six by eight foot sale, and I believe that those two things could change my life.
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  I believe that music had the power to change my life, and God had the power to change my life.
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  And I want to tell y'all right now, Jesus is for everybody.
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  Jesus is not owned, not one political party.
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  Jesus is not owned, not no music label!
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  Jesus is Jesus, and anybody can have a relationship with him.
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  I love you, Lord.
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  Incredible.
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  Incredible.
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  And they panned to Reba, and Reba was just grinning from ear to ear.
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  She was so proud and uh just so joyful.
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  And you can see the joy on her face.
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  I've always loved Reba.
• 28:51
  And uh, you know, she's always been positive, and she's never, to my knowledge, gotten sucked into this whole Hollywood trap, and you know, just bashing other people and taking the mortal high road uh by and I'm saying this sarcastically to point point at other people and tell them how to live their lives.
• 29:11
  She's never been one of those people.
• 29:15
  And so here you have Billy Eilish, and she's not the only one.
• 29:19
  There was a whole bunch of them that uh they got up there and just gave these stupid speeches about ice and how awful America is, it's just a it's such a terrible place, it's so awful.
• 29:32
  You can't be illegal on stolen land, you know, that kind of thing.
• 29:37
  F ice.
• 29:38
  Oh, sorry.
• 29:40
  Huh.
• 29:43
  Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:47
  You know, you you get that kind of an attitude, and I think that again, that's why people are getting really tired of of what's happening on the left.
• 29:58
  They really are.
• 29:59
  That's why.
• 30:00
  Donald J.
• 30:01
  Trump is our president right now.
• 30:02
  People got tired of being preached at by the elitists who are telling everybody else how to live their lives.
• 30:11
  And telling people that uh, you know, we we need to tighten up our belts and we need to treat the earth better as they roll around on their private jets.
• 30:22
  People got tired of that.
• 30:25
  People got really, really tired of hearing this kind of nonsense 24-7.
• 30:32
  And everything had to turn political.
• 30:34
  Everything had to turn into some kind of political, either an argument or a demoralization of, you know, the let's say the deplorables.
• 30:46
  And they started pointing fingers.
• 30:48
  Rob Schneider talked about that too.
• 30:50
  And uh, you know, he said it's really interesting in Hollywood.
• 30:55
  You can say death to Trump.
• 30:59
  You know, you you can wish for his assassination.
• 31:04
  And people cheer.
• 31:05
  You're celebrated.
• 31:08
  But he said, if you show any kind of support whatsoever, if you show any kind of support for the president, he's like, you're absolutely blacklisted.
• 31:17
  He said, you'll never find work again.
• 31:21
  And it's just such a double standard.
• 31:23
  Again, it's the um the tolerant left.
• 31:29
  And the more I see what's going on, I've been saying this for over a year now.
• 31:34
  The more I witness this sharp contrast between the right and the left.
• 31:41
  I realize that it's they're they're in two very different worlds.
• 31:47
  They couldn't be farther apart.
• 31:51
  At least politically.
• 31:54
  And how you bring those two sides together, which there was a time when people could, when people could act normal.
• 32:03
  They could have arguments and they could disagree on things.
• 32:09
  And that was okay.
• 32:10
  They could they could still come together.
• 32:12
  Now I'm gonna give an example because I don't want you to think that all hope is lost.
• 32:17
  Because there are still people who are who are bridging both sides, and certainly Jelly Roll is one of them.
• 32:23
  I mean, hands down, I think he won the entire show.
• 32:28
  If you ask me, uh what he said was absolutely just spot on.
• 32:37
  So backstage, a reporter asked Jelly if if he would share his stance on politics, and he thanked her for raising the topic, and he said, I'm glad somebody asked.
• 32:50
  And then he said, respectfully, I decline.
• 32:54
  So he was a gentleman about it, even backstage.
• 32:57
  They're still pushing them.
• 32:58
  They're like, what do you think about ice?
• 33:00
  You know, it's like they they just can't let it go.
• 33:02
  They, you know, I feel like one of two things.
• 33:06
  One, which is probably more likely, they want to trap him because they know that since he's not a raving lunatic, that he must not hate ice.
• 33:16
  And if you don't hate ice, if you're silent, right?
• 33:19
  That's the argument.
• 33:20
  If you're silent, then you're guilty.
• 33:24
  I just saw somebody post that on social media today.
• 33:26
  It's one of my Facebook air quote friends, posted, like, for anybody being silent about what ice is doing right now, you're you're guilty.
• 33:38
  And then another one.
• 33:39
  If you're silent about the Epstein files, you're guilty.
• 33:45
  Like that thing's a whole nother mess.
• 33:50
  Just an absolute train wreck of a disaster, which is why Trump was holding off on uh having the files released in the first place because he knew what the media was going to do with it.
• 34:03
  Exactly what they're doing now.
• 34:04
  I actually read a good CNN article.
• 34:08
  I know, I know.
• 34:09
  That's don't stone me.
• 34:12
  I read a good CNN article that listed all the things that people are saying about Trump since this this new wave of what was it, like two million pages of documents came public.
• 34:26
  What everybody's saying about Trump, and they kept saying, and it's probably only because they're afraid of getting sued, but it it felt like honest journalism.
• 34:36
  They were like, but all of this is completely unfounded.
• 34:40
  This, you know, these are claims that came out either right before the election and were dropped after the the first election, or they're so basically so absurd, the claims are so absurd, and there's no cooperating evidence that it was dropped by the FBI.
• 35:02
  They they never investigated it further.
• 35:04
  By the way, it was the Democratic FBI.
• 35:09
  They're the ones who did the investigation, and all this stuff is already ran through the FBI.
• 35:15
  So CNN rightfully said, here are the things that that were uncovered.
• 35:21
  However, none of this is substantiated.
• 35:26
  And I thought, I thought that was fair.
• 35:29
  And they said the same thing with with uh Clinton.
• 35:32
  Although with Clinton, there are a whole lot more actual photographs of him naked, you know, swimming naked with Maxwell and uh just the really dirty, gross, bizarre stuff.
• 35:49
  But none of that, none of that exists with Trump.
• 35:53
  But yet the focus is all on Trump.
• 35:56
  So at any rate, you know, that's a whole nother topic, but but it's this whole idea if you're silent, then you're guilty.
• 36:03
  So they're trying to trap jelly roll.
• 36:05
  I really think that's what's going on.
• 36:07
  Either that or they genuinely wanted his opinion, but I doubt it.
• 36:12
  So here's what he said.
• 36:13
  I'm a dumb redneck man.
• 36:16
  I haven't watched enough.
• 36:18
  I didn't have a phone for 18 months.
• 36:21
  I've had one for four months that I that don't have social media.
• 36:27
  I've become so disconnected from what's happening.
• 36:31
  I love that about I love that for jelly roll, and I love that about jelly roll.
• 36:35
  That's so cool.
• 36:37
  Keep staying disconnected.
• 36:39
  You do your music, you do what connects with people.
• 36:43
  He's not, he doesn't care about social media.
• 36:46
  It's fantastic.
• 36:48
  I mean, what a great dude.
• 36:50
  So he said, when you grow up in a drug addict household, you think we like have common calls about what's happening in world politics.
• 36:59
  Like we're just trying to find a way to survive, man.
• 37:03
  I love it.
• 37:04
  It's just so basic and truthful.
• 37:07
  What a cool dude.
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• 40:00
  Thing to say about it.
• 40:01
  And instead, he thanked God and his wife for literally saving his life.
• 40:06
  He was breaking down crying.
• 40:08
  And you could hear the passion behind him and the sincerity.
• 40:12
  You know, that was not a faked speech.
• 40:15
  That was uh that was sincere from the heart.
• 40:19
  And it just shows what a stand-up duty is.
• 40:22
  What a great guy.
• 40:24
  And he's calling other people to repentance.
• 40:27
  And that's what I loved about it.
• 40:29
  I mean, this was this was a gospel speech.
• 40:36
  And I'm sure the critics will come out and they'll they'll rip them, people on both the right and left.
• 40:43
  Now the Christians will rip him because he he uses a lot of cuss words, and you know, it's I don't know.
• 40:52
  They'll find something to rip them on.
• 40:55
  And of course, the left is going to rip him because he was silent about ice.
• 41:00
  This was supposed to be an ice bashing fest.
• 41:03
  And he didn't play by the rules.
• 41:06
  You know, he he didn't have his little pin, his little button that says ice out.
• 41:14
  Yeah, that's again the latest fad.
• 41:18
  They like their little fads.
• 41:20
  Those buttons will eventually go away.
• 41:24
  Probably pretty quickly until you know next week or the week after when there's some other big topic, another fad that they jump onto.
• 41:33
  But uh, yeah, they they turned it into an ice bashing fest, and Jelly Roll didn't play by their rules.
• 41:41
  And not only didn't he play by the rules, but he thanked Jesus for saving his life.
• 41:49
  And he said, Jesus is available to everyone.
• 41:54
  And he's calling people to repentance.
• 41:58
  He's thanking Jesus and thanking his wife for literally saving his life.
• 42:06
  I think it's so cool.
• 42:07
  He was asked backstage, the media asked him, Well, don't you have anything to say about ice?
• 42:15
  And he's like, uh, no, we're, you know, I don't really know much about it, to be honest.
• 42:21
  Uh, I don't have enough to have an opinion.
• 42:24
  So he was pressed on this.
• 42:27
  They couldn't let it go.
• 42:28
  And that's another thing about the tolerant left, they can't let things go.
• 42:33
  They never let things go.
• 42:37
  So he promised to educate himself and to share his position soon.
• 42:42
  He said, I have a lot to say about it, and I'm going to in the next week.
• 42:47
  And everybody's going to hear exactly what I have to say about it in the most loud and clear way I've ever spoken my life.
• 42:55
  First of all, I'm going to say jelly roll.
• 42:57
  You don't owe that to anybody.
• 43:00
  Just because people are pressing you for for an opinion.
• 43:05
  Like he almost sounds apologetic.
• 43:07
  Like, oh, I need to do it.
• 43:09
  Please give me a week and I'll do my research, and then I'll have an opinion about it.
• 43:14
  And I'll say it loud and clear.
• 43:16
  I'll give an honest answer.
• 43:20
  You don't owe that to anybody, buddy.
• 43:25
  You know, I think that's one of the things.
• 43:27
  It's, you know, we all get forced into this gotcha where they don't let things go.
• 43:34
  And I guarantee if he doesn't give an answer, the cancel culture is going to come out in full swing.
• 43:40
  And in fact, if he gives the wrong answer, which I'm guessing he will.
• 43:45
  Because he's just going to shoot it straight.
• 43:47
  You know.
• 43:50
  He's going to give his opinion, his informed opinion.
• 43:55
  And no matter what he says, it's it's going to be wrong.
• 44:00
  Unless it's so radical and so violent, then they'll praise him, you know, like Billy Eilish.
• 44:07
  Yay, everybody's cheering.
• 44:09
  F ice.
• 44:13
  So, yeah, it's kind of a darned if you do, and darned if you don't.
• 44:17
  And I hate that he's in that position.
• 44:21
  He doesn't deserve to be in that position.
• 44:22
  They should have never painted him into that position.
• 44:29
  So, yeah, the article here, it says that Jelly's a major public figure, and many fans love his story and his message as much as they love his music.
• 44:42
  Yeah, he's been open about his story of incarceration.
• 44:46
  He's spoken to lawmakers about the opioid epidemic.
• 44:58
  His Christian faith.
• 45:01
  And last December, he received a full pardon of his felony conviction, which is really cool.
• 45:10
  So it says, uh, so while Jelly hasn't spoken about immigration issues per se, he's got a strong track record of speaking about his experience with the criminal justice system and has vocalized opinions on other policy issues.
• 45:26
  So, yeah, um, they're just pressing them, man.
• 45:30
  They won't let it go.
• 45:33
  They're like making him do his homework over the next week, and almost forcing an answer out of them.
• 45:39
  And I just think that's a shame.
• 45:42
  So again, other people, other artists were ice out pins.
• 45:48
  Um they were supporting protest in their speeches, bad bunny, and it's the same thing.
• 45:58
  Gave some bizarre basically F ice kind of speech.
• 46:04
  Olivia Dean.
• 46:08
  Um, yeah, just kind of sad, but I was saying Jelly Roll is not the only one bridging both sides.
• 46:19
  Yeah, I really feel like Jelly Roll is a bridge.
• 46:22
  They says, look, Jesus doesn't have a political affiliation.
• 46:27
  He doesn't pick sides.
• 46:30
  Just love him.
• 46:31
  Repent.
• 46:33
  Just do what's right.
• 46:36
  So he he really is building a bridge.
• 46:39
  Now, whether people cross that bridge or not, that's up to them.
• 46:44
  I feel like Jelly Roll did his part, but I thought that Shabuzi did a pretty good job too.
• 46:50
  And he very clearly, I think, does not stand for what's happening with the immigration policies.
• 46:59
  His mother is an immigrant.
• 47:02
  And uh he was actually sobbing given the speech.
• 47:06
  And here's a prime example how you absolutely can pick a side.
• 47:13
  You can express yourself in a way that honors other people.
• 47:18
  And it's not in your face, it's not F you.
• 47:21
  He didn't, he didn't say F ice, he didn't, you know, wave the middle finger and tell people that all these Trumpers are going down.
• 47:29
  You know, like he didn't talk like that.
• 47:32
  And I want you to hear his speech.
• 47:34
  I'm gonna I'm gonna share a short clip from him because I thought Shabuzy had a lot of class.
• 47:39
  You know, for somebody who very clearly disagrees with the immigration policies, I I thought he did it, he did it with grace.
• 47:49
  He spoke his opinion.
• 47:52
  You know, it's a shame that he got roped into to this whole thing of you know, where the Grammys were made about uh turned into ice fest, like one big slushy, you know.
• 48:03
  They all have their little icy talking about ice.
• 48:09
  And I don't know if he felt pressured that he had to talk about it, or if it just was on his mind.
• 48:15
  But either way, whatever, whatever the case, he did it gracefully, and this is how you you can hold an opinion contrary to other people, and you can say what's on your mind, and you can say your truth, and you can say it with grace, and you don't have to point fingers and tear other people down.
• 48:37
  So Shabuzi, yeah, good job.
• 48:40
  So here's the clip of him.
• 48:44
  Um I would also thank my mother who has up today, has retired from her job after 30 years.
• 48:52
  Um as a registered nurse in a psych ward.
• 49:00
  Um she worked three to four jobs just to provide for me and my four children uh my four siblings as an immigrant in this country.
• 49:09
  Ummigrants built this country, literally.
• 49:16
  So this is for them for all children of immigrants.
• 49:20
  This is also for those who came to this country in search of better opportunity to be a part of a nation that promised freedom for all the equal opportunities to everyone willing to work for it.
• 49:29
  Thank you for bringing your culture.
• 49:32
  All right, so yeah, I I can't disagree with what he said there.
• 49:37
  I I thought it was great.
• 49:38
  I thought it was classy.
• 49:40
  Uh notice that he put in the end for everybody who's willing to work for it.
• 49:45
  So he made that distinction.
• 49:47
  And for anybody who's willing to work for it, uh, you know, this it's the land of opportunity.
• 49:55
  And uh, you know, I got the impression that he.
• 50:00
  Not for people freeloading.
• 50:04
  But he, but his heart very clearly is bent towards immigrants.
• 50:10
  And I like that.
• 50:12
  I actually like that he has compassion.
• 50:15
  He gets it.
• 50:17
  His mom's an immigrant.
• 50:20
  And you know, he didn't clarify, he didn't say for those who come legally.
• 50:25
  You know, he didn't clarify any of that.
• 50:27
  So I don't really know for sure what his position is on legal versus illegal and all that kind of stuff.
• 50:36
  I just don't know.
• 50:39
  I have a guess.
• 50:41
  But I don't know.
• 50:42
  But whatever, whatever the case, he said what he wanted to say, and he said it impassioned.
• 50:48
  He was crying.
• 50:50
  He was grateful.
• 50:52
  He didn't point fingers.
• 50:54
  He didn't mention President Trump.
• 50:56
  Um he didn't mention politicians.
• 50:59
  He just he said what was on his mind.
• 51:03
  And he's grateful and he's humble.
• 51:07
  So that's how it's done.
• 51:08
  That's how you bridge both parties.
• 51:13
  This political divide, this political rot gut that's in our country.
• 51:18
  We can bridge the sides, but it's up to other people whether whether they cross and they shake hands across that bridge.
• 51:28
  Right?
• 51:28
  Like we can't force people to get along.
• 51:31
  We can't force people.
• 51:34
  And that's part of the problem is people want to force people, both sides.
• 51:38
  They want to force people, coerce people into their arguments.
• 51:43
  They want to win arguments.
• 51:45
  I want to prove that their side is the right side.
• 51:48
  And that's why I absolutely refuse to bow to any political party.
• 51:54
  I will not associate with either party.
• 52:00
  It just not me.
• 52:02
  I I don't belong to one party.
• 52:05
  I can't.
• 52:08
  I I spiritually, physically, mentally, I can't do it because I see so much corruption on both sides.
• 52:19
  And I see good on both sides.
• 52:29
  And they've turned violent.
• 52:32
  And they've, you know, the party that at least claims to be tolerant, maybe at one point they actually were.
• 52:41
  They're not tolerant at all.
• 52:44
  Like die hard legalists.
• 52:48
  They've become the very thing that they say that they were fighting.
• 52:52
  This extreme legalism that forces people to bend to their will.
• 52:58
  And if you don't, they're out for blood.
• 53:02
  Literally.
• 53:05
  And they protest and resist.
• 53:11
  And destroy and loot.
• 53:16
  And force their views on people.
• 53:21
  Absolutely, 100%, hands down.
• 53:25
  And that's where Jelly Roll and Shabuzy, I think they really paved the way.
• 53:31
  They really showed the way.
• 53:32
  They showed us how to have grace and compassion.
• 53:35
  Even Shabuzi, who brought up the issue of immigration, he did it very respectfully.
• 53:44
  He did it very gracefully.
• 53:48
  And I appreciated that.
• 53:52
  That was pretty cool.
• 53:55
  And it just shows there's nothing wrong with holding an opinion.
• 54:00
  You don't have to be afraid to say your opinion.
• 54:04
  Say what's on your mind, let your yes be yes and your no be no.
• 54:08
  And you move on in life.
• 54:12
  And he did exactly that.
• 54:14
  He honored his mom.
• 54:17
  He was grateful to live in a country that uh you know, where his immigrant mom had a chance.
• 54:25
  She was given opportunity.
• 54:27
  And he made that very clear.
• 54:31
  So this is how I think it's how we can bridge, you know, build that bridge between both sides.
• 54:41
  How we can get rid of the divide that's growing deeper and deeper.
• 54:46
  There are a lot of scars in this nation.
• 54:48
  There really are.
• 54:50
  And it's up to us to actually work to kind of heal those scars, heal those wounds.
• 55:01
  So I really commend uh first of all, jelly roll.
• 55:05
  That just I can't, I just can't be grateful enough for what he said for the words that he said, even if you're not a Christian, even if you, you know, you're not a believer.
• 55:17
  If if you can look at what he said and you can be angry and you can criticize him, that says way more about your character than it does jelly rolls.
• 55:26
  I mean, way more.
• 55:30
  That's where for the people who can point fingers at him, talk about what a low life he is, and he didn't he didn't bring up ice.
• 55:39
  He has a platform.
• 55:41
  I had people do that to me before.
• 55:43
  You have a platform, and you're not using it to I'm like, that's because it's not what my platform's for.
• 55:53
  I teach people about prevention of child sexual abuse.
• 55:56
  It's I'm not a right, my platform was not built to stand up to whatever the next injustice is or what you think is an injustice.
• 56:09
  I had this one lady, she just wouldn't let it go, and I was like, just get lost.
• 56:12
  I'm like, it's you're not gonna coerce me into using my platform.
• 56:17
  And she was appalled.
• 56:18
  She's like, I can I can't believe you won't use your platform to be angry about I don't even remember what it was.
• 56:28
  It's because it just who cares.
• 56:34
  So, yeah, I I mean, when people point fingers at other people, and that's their stance.
• 56:42
  I want to tell people how wrong they are, how awful they are, how how inhumane and terrible and cruel they are.
• 56:49
  Usually at that point, you just kind of you just walk away.
• 56:52
  You're like, all right, you know, appreciate your opinion, but take it to somebody else.
• 56:59
  But what Shabuzi and Jelly Roll did, I thought super classy, and we need more of this in America.
• 57:08
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• 57:10
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