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Chuck & Buck 12-4 Hour 3: 12th Man Roundtable with Gregg Bell & Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I what would you like? Not
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  Speaker 1: this one? I'm going to play this one today? Oh okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for the record, I never said that.
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  Speaker 3: I just said I like Christmas music.
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  Speaker 2: I'm calling you the expert, and I have a weird
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  Speaker 2: ranking inclination. I just have to take the songs and
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know, like, oh, Holy Night, Greg, I
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  Speaker 2: just you know, I got to listen go to Spotify
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  Speaker 2: and listen to twenty versions over the holiday season, and
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  Speaker 2: that's it.
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  Speaker 3: That's the best.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, holy Night, That's not what I would have picked.
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  Speaker 3: You versions of Bring Tears to your Eyes. Don't don't
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  Speaker 3: underestimate that one.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Dance Little Christmas I didn't think was gonna
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  Speaker 1: make the Varsity cut for Hugh Millon from Elton John
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  Speaker 1: here this morning, and I was, rush, that's not.
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  Speaker 4: What Elton John's bet. He's got a lot of good ones.
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  Speaker 4: Saw iim in Madison Square Garden one time, but that's
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  Speaker 4: not one of his best.
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  Speaker 3: It's not.
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  Speaker 1: But it makes me laugh every time. It's step into Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why it is. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: it makes me laugh, but it does. And so that's
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  Speaker 1: why I was like, this one makes me laugh.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm playing it now.
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  Speaker 1: I got Greg Bell's Christmas tree in the background on
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  Speaker 1: the zoom call as well. It looks like he's eating
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  Speaker 1: some Christmas porridge. I mean, we are in the holiday
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  Speaker 1: spirit here, I'm eating porridge. Well, it's our twelve man roundtable,
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  Speaker 1: our QB one. Hugh Millan is here, our Seahawks inside
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  Speaker 1: of Greg Bell is here as well as we get
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  Speaker 1: ready for the Falcons. But also certainly every single week
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  Speaker 1: is sort of a you know, temperature check of just
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  Speaker 1: how well this season's going for the Seahawks nine and
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  Speaker 1: three record at this point. I think on Monday I
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  Speaker 1: started with all the positive things and then we eventually
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  Speaker 1: got in to conversations about some of the concerns. I
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  Speaker 1: think I want to start with the concerns here today
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  Speaker 1: and whether there are any, Hugh, I'll start with you.
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  Speaker 1: The offense. I mean, Sam Darnold was just having an
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  Speaker 1: MVP like season. And I know that these statistics don't
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  Speaker 1: say everything, but here in the last three weeks two
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  Speaker 1: touch downs to four interceptions. He'd only been sacked ten
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  Speaker 1: times in the first nine games. He's been sacked six
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  Speaker 1: times in the last three. He was completing seventy percent
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  Speaker 1: of his passes. In the last three games, he's only
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  Speaker 1: completing sixty one percent of his passes, and so I
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  Speaker 1: would just I would just like to see if there's
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  Speaker 1: any concern that you have about the Seahawks offense at
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  Speaker 1: this point, and if all you're worried that maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: on a little bit of a downward trajectory from that
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  Speaker 1: high plateau it's spent for the first half of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it certainly is on a downward trajectory. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you played twelve games. The first six games, Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 2: had one hundred and sixteen passer rating and in the
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  Speaker 2: last six he's out in ninety three. So I think
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  Speaker 2: the numbers are undisputable, your eyes telling you certainly last
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  Speaker 2: week against Minnesota was tough in many ways, and thankfully
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  Speaker 2: they were going against a feeble offense and they were
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  Speaker 2: able to just kind of hang on in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: But I think, you know, to some extent, I think,
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  Speaker 2: what's the safest day to fly on the day after
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  Speaker 2: plane crash? Right? And I think that I think that
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  Speaker 2: this the Seahawks are likely to have spent a lot
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  Speaker 2: of time in uh in in practice, in walkthroughs and
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  Speaker 2: really reviewing their blitz pick up. And and now I
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  Speaker 2: don't I don't think you know, people say, well, Minnesota,
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  Speaker 2: they they showed a lot of things that are are
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  Speaker 2: difficult that they were number one in in the UH
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL going into the game in terms of
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  Speaker 2: percent of snap with pressure, UH they were dead last
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  Speaker 2: and Nickel number one.
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  Speaker 3: And used to the three four.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things from a personnel standpoint, scheme standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of UH zone pressures, you know, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of different zones. And and so they they kind of
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  Speaker 2: caught Seattle with their pants down a little bit. But
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  Speaker 2: I think that Seattle have a renewed effort to UH
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  Speaker 2: address that and and UH and and move forward.
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  Speaker 3: Greg.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the concern with Sam Donald is to me, ball security.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Hugh knows the number one job of a
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  Speaker 4: quarterback is to protect the ball and if he's going
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  Speaker 4: to get hit, to not lose the ball. And he
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  Speaker 4: loses quite a butt more than an average quarterback. And
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  Speaker 4: just this season, and I've watched him every snap he
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  Speaker 4: loses the ball in traffic, whether it's his own lineman
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  Speaker 4: getting pushed into him or him throwing a ball off
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  Speaker 4: of a lineman's helmet or blindside hit and he loses
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  Speaker 4: the ball. He's second in the NFL and turnovers ten
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  Speaker 4: interceptions and five lost fumbles. And guess who're the number
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  Speaker 4: one team by far as Minnesota and blitze and guess
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  Speaker 4: who number two is Atlanta. So they're going to challenge
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  Speaker 4: the protection and they get the ball off quickly. And
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  Speaker 4: every time after a game win or lose, Sam Donald
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  Speaker 4: says the same thing. I got to get the ball
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  Speaker 4: off more quickly. I got to get the ball more quickly.
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  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup after the Vikings game, said we got to
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  Speaker 4: run shorter routes if they're going to blitz us and
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  Speaker 4: we get wish they got our back to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: This is I'm paraphrasing. We can't run twenty yard in.
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  Speaker 4: Routes like Jackson Smith and Jiggers been feasting on teams
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  Speaker 4: for most of the season. If the teams are gonna
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  Speaker 4: blitz like the Vikings did and cause fake blitzing and
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  Speaker 4: cause pressures. So that's a challenge this week, and the
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks adjust on the fly to another blitz team and
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  Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and jig but perhaps running hitch routes instead.
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  Speaker 3: Of goes and in routes. They started to do it
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  Speaker 3: in the second half. Of course, they were up by
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  Speaker 3: three scores and they just ran the ball.
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  Speaker 4: The encouraging thing for the offense is they are starting
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  Speaker 4: to get traction running the football and they are starting
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  Speaker 4: to treat Kenneth Walker like a lead back.
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  Speaker 3: Both in the.
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  Speaker 4: Beginning of the first quarter and the beginning of the
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  Speaker 4: third quarter against Minnesota, it looked like ken Walker was
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  Speaker 4: a lead back. Finally they were giving him steady diets
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  Speaker 4: of runs. They were actually throwing in the ball and
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  Speaker 4: getting to the ball in the open field. He had
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  Speaker 4: the preponderance of Carrie Now once again on third down
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  Speaker 4: and in the red zones. Actually, reveren A comes in
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  Speaker 4: sharp and ends up getting his knife touchdown of the
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  Speaker 4: season on a run of seventeen yards at the ice
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  Speaker 4: of the game. But they are now starting to assert
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  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker as a more consistent lead back and that's
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  Speaker 4: helped them. They've averaged one hundred and forty yards rushing
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  Speaker 4: the last four games. That will help them against the
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  Speaker 4: Rams and forty nine ers. I would assert that they
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  Speaker 4: need to have Kenneth Walker as running back one plus
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  Speaker 4: against the Rams in two weeks to beat them because
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  Speaker 4: they cannot rely on Sam Donald to throw it all
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  Speaker 4: around the yard against the Rams and the team he
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  Speaker 4: just threw four interceptions against. Kenneth Walker to me is
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  Speaker 4: the key to the rest of the season, whether they
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  Speaker 4: win the NFC. What I know Donald and Smith and
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  Speaker 4: jigbeb and key to the season so far, Kenneth Walker
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  Speaker 4: to me.
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  Speaker 3: Will hold the key at whether they might win the
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  Speaker 3: division or not.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know a couple things on the turnovers for
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald. Look, obviously, quarterbacks are going to come back
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  Speaker 2: and address your ball security. There's certainly a difference between
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  Speaker 2: are you fumbling in the process of throwing after your
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  Speaker 2: hands have already separated. If your hands get hit there,
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  Speaker 2: you're very likely to have a fumble.
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  Speaker 3: The two on.
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  Speaker 2: Saturday, he was still in the pocket, not yet throwing,
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  Speaker 2: so he has two hands on the ball.
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  Speaker 3: He's got to secure it.
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  Speaker 2: But I would say that his turnover worthy plays. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's under Pat Mahomes. He's got the same number as
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  Speaker 2: bo Nicks. Prior to this last week, he had one
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  Speaker 2: under Drake May. Now he's got one more than Drake May.
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  Speaker 2: But that's and when you look at Pat Mahomes' entire career.
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  Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes is at twenty nineteen point nine specifically, but
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  Speaker 2: at twenty per season, and yet you live with it.
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  Speaker 2: And who is number one in all of the NFL
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  Speaker 2: in the big time throw percentage, Well it's Sam's Sam Donald.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that, Yeah, Greg's absolutely right. You have
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  Speaker 2: to address this hopefully moving forward. But I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that you want to new to yourself so much that
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  Speaker 2: you take away the big play making ability. I think
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  Speaker 2: you talk about it, hey, ball security, if you're getting tackled,
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  Speaker 2: try not to fumble, But I don't think you can.
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  Speaker 2: You can paralyze yourself for fear of having turnovers. It
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  Speaker 2: takes away you know. I mean I just decided Pat Mahomes.
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  Speaker 2: You think Andy Reid is upset that he has twenty
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  Speaker 2: turnover worthy plays? I mean right now Sam Donald has fourteen,
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  Speaker 2: So he's on a pace to be under that for
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  Speaker 2: under twenty under Pat mahomes entire average for his entire career.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Greg Alison said at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the game. We talked about it on Monday. I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you do have to reduce your turnovers. That's just an
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  Speaker 1: obvious statistic. But I don't want it to come at
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  Speaker 1: risks of what that offense looked like it was capable
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  Speaker 1: of in the first half. I don't want them to
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  Speaker 1: stop being aggressive. I kind of feel that Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 1: feels that way as well. It certainly Greg was the
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  Speaker 1: game in which Sam Donald was the most pressured, feel
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  Speaker 1: like he had the least amount of time to throw
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  Speaker 1: the football. Was that gonna warrant any kind of change
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  Speaker 1: up front on the offensive line for Sunday?
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  Speaker 4: Not for Sunday because Jalen Sndell's not back from jured
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  Speaker 4: reserve yet. The fourth consecutive game that Sundel has to
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  Speaker 4: miss from IR is on Sunday in Atlanta. This time
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  Speaker 4: next week, Sindell will be eligible to come off injured reserve.
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  Speaker 4: And when I asked McDonald on Monday if he's how
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  Speaker 4: Sundell was doing on his knee, and he said pretty good,
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  Speaker 4: as so far as I understand, I said, well, Sundell
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  Speaker 4: come back as a center or a guard. The reason
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  Speaker 4: I asked that is that training camp began with Jalen
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  Speaker 4: Sndell as a competitor at right guard with Anthony Bradford
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  Speaker 4: and Christian Haynes. Then they moved Sundel to center, and
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  Speaker 4: he proved to be better than Ola Timmy at center
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  Speaker 4: and training camp and he won that job. But he's
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  Speaker 4: on time last year practice as a guard as well.
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  Speaker 4: I think that he's going to compete with Anthony Bradford
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  Speaker 4: as the right guard and he comes back next week.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he's going to take the job
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  Speaker 4: in the Colts game next week right guard, but I
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  Speaker 4: think he's going to compete and maybe get there eventually.
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  Speaker 4: I think their best line right now with Olo Timmy
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  Speaker 4: and showing well the last two games is to keep
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  Speaker 4: Ol Timmy where it's going well right now at center,
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  Speaker 4: with the option to slide Sundell there if if Ol
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  Speaker 4: Timmy starts faltering against the Rams. But I think the
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  Speaker 4: better option is in Ol Timmy at center and Sundella
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  Speaker 4: right guard when he gets back next week. But that's
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  Speaker 4: not going to help him against Atlanta on Sunday. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think Christian Haines is the answer over Anthony Bradford.
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  Speaker 4: Haynes has tried three different times, two different coaching staff
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  Speaker 4: to try to win this job and he hasn't done
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  Speaker 4: it yet. He had a chance in training camp, but
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  Speaker 4: he got beat up by Bradford, so it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be appears Anthony Bradford. On Sunday in Atlanta. A couple
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  Speaker 4: went outlined a whole bunch of things they need to
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  Speaker 4: do against pressure, and he one of the things he
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  Speaker 4: said is let's roll out some more. Let's run outside
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  Speaker 4: the pressure. Not only did Donald get sacked four times
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  Speaker 4: in the first half, which is season high against the Vikings,
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  Speaker 4: six passes got knocked down by edge rushers.
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  Speaker 3: Six That's a lot. Some guys don't have that in
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  Speaker 3: a month.
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  Speaker 4: So Donald's or Hubs point is let's not just stand
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  Speaker 4: in the pocket as much as we did. He didn't
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  Speaker 4: quite call out Kubiak, but he did just not by
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  Speaker 4: words a name, Let's roll out and make.
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  Speaker 3: Those guys chase him.
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  Speaker 4: Donald has shown the ability to get outside the pocket,
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  Speaker 4: and they usually do it off bootlegs and play action passes.
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  Speaker 4: But we may see more of that some bootlegs and
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  Speaker 4: playoffs or maybe some straight sprintouts, so that straight line
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  Speaker 4: blitzers can't have a straight line shot at a quarterback
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  Speaker 4: in the pocket and you actually have to chase and
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  Speaker 4: run outside of him. So yes, I think they're going
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  Speaker 4: to be changes this week. From what Minnesota did. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: I think Atlanta's going to look at the Minnesota game
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  Speaker 4: tape and try to copy some of that, especially with
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  Speaker 4: the fake blitzing that happened in the second quarter that
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  Speaker 4: made Anthony Bradford and others look like guys standing waiting
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  Speaker 4: on a light rail train to pull up blocking nobody
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  Speaker 4: and the Rams are going to see all this. Forty
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  Speaker 4: nine ers the cults. This is a copycat league. So
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks need to have an answer both in scheme
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  Speaker 4: and in personnel for pressure that they're going to get,
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  Speaker 4: probably inside up the middle starting on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when you talk about okay, outside of
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  Speaker 2: the pocket, what are we talking about? Are we talking
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  Speaker 2: about naked bootlegs? Are we talking about sprint out?
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about are.
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  Speaker 2: We talking about dash dash protection where you you start
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  Speaker 2: the first three steps going straight back and then that
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  Speaker 2: allows you to seal the end and then it becomes
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  Speaker 2: a delayed sprint out like schematically one of the things
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  Speaker 2: if you try and sprint out the quarterback too often.
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  Speaker 2: Out of the pocket sounds great, right, let's do it
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  Speaker 2: with let's hell, let's do it Demon Williams right, he's athletic.
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  Speaker 2: He's short, that'll help the problem is you you have
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  Speaker 2: a very limited amount of past concepts you can run
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  Speaker 2: out of that everything has to be outbreaking because the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody designs any inbreaking routes on on sprintouts because now
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback would be having to double lead throw across
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  Speaker 2: his body see defenders that are flowing to the sprint out.
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  Speaker 2: You just you do not throw in breaking routes on sprintouts.
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  Speaker 2: So uh, I think if you just say, well, okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's have a game plan where we're out out of
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  Speaker 2: the pocket, I think that's gonna that's gonna fail in
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  Speaker 2: a hurry. I think absolutely mixing it in your naked
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  Speaker 2: bootlegs on first and second down, running away from the
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  Speaker 2: stretch or running away from inside zone at get the
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  Speaker 2: flow going one way, right handed, quarterback out the other. Actually, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald's been more bootlegs to the left and he
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  Speaker 2: has from the right. Uh this season And on certain
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  Speaker 2: blitz looks. Yeah you can, you can have a sprint out, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and and get a quick flat. But but the way
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings were playing what's called a two catch or
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  Speaker 2: palms coverage, they they were they weren't manning behind it
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  Speaker 2: that those sprint out ideas they were they were zoning.
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  Speaker 2: So if you if you sprint out and you want
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  Speaker 2: to get something in the flat, those corners were reading
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  Speaker 2: the release of of of number two the slot and
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  Speaker 2: they would trigger to the flat if there was anything
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  Speaker 2: in the flat. If there was nothing, they would sink
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  Speaker 2: and give ground. So so I think schematically, Look, I
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  Speaker 2: think Cooper Cup is the smartest receiver in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: When Cooper Cup talks, I listen, You listen, We all
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  Speaker 2: should listen. In my opinion, Cooper Cup is brilliant. But
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  Speaker 2: but I would hesitate. I think he has some ideas.
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  Speaker 2: I think if we were to have a conversation, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think he would disagree with anything I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 2: think let's have a little bit of that. But let's
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  Speaker 2: not get the idea of Seahawk fans. Oh, let's just
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  Speaker 2: turned this into a sprint out game plan. That's not
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  Speaker 2: gonna work. No, and that's not what he's suggesting. But
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  Speaker 2: Donald was in the pocket a lot more against the Vikings,
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  Speaker 2: and he was often a sitting duck for those inside Blitz,
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  Speaker 2: especially the inside linebacker.
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  Speaker 4: Blitz's was Cup's point. Look we're a good Matt. We're
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  Speaker 4: going on and on about Sam Donald. The most interesting
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  Speaker 4: stats to me the old wins and losses, the old
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  Speaker 4: Ken maccas story. I've always told you about wins and
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  Speaker 4: f and losses, right, Chuck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: If his next win, he will pass Tom Brady for
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  Speaker 4: the most wins in consecutive seasons with two different teams.
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  Speaker 4: Brady did it with the Patriots and the Buccaneers back
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  Speaker 4: to back. Donald has twenty four wins. He will have
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  Speaker 4: and this next win will be twenty four wins between
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  Speaker 4: the Vikings last year and the Seahawks this year, which
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  Speaker 4: would be an NFL record for two different teams back
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  Speaker 4: to back seasons. And that's what his bottom line is,
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  Speaker 4: wins and f and losses. He's got a defense that
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  Speaker 4: now he's got the as they we said that the
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  Speaker 4: team needed to be designed to coming into the season.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a defense that'll win games. Just don't turn
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  Speaker 4: the ball over. We're simplifying here, but just don't turn
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  Speaker 4: the ball over and you're gonna win most of the games.
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  Speaker 4: The way this defense is playing right now, including against
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  Speaker 4: the Rams, that's how good Mike McDonald's defense has been.
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  Speaker 2: Greg, I'm glad you brought that up, because I think
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  Speaker 2: there's something really interesting. You really do a dive on
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald. He started as a twenty one year old,
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  Speaker 2: twenty two year old, and twenty three year old with
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  Speaker 2: the Jets. Then he goes straight to the Panthers and
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  Speaker 2: he starts as a twenty four year old. Then, for
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  Speaker 2: the first time in his career in the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: two season, he's not the starter, but due to injuries,
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  Speaker 2: he starts, so he sits and he watches for the
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  Speaker 2: first time as a twenty five year old in the
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two season, he gets his first start of
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: that year in Week twelve. So let's we're gonna say
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: week that was on a November twenty seventh, twenty twenty two,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: a little over three years ago, right age twenty five.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Prior to that time, in forty nine starts, he had
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: won thirty four point seven percent of his games. Since then,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: thirty six starts, he's won exactly seventy five percent. The
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: number of games that he had one hundred or more
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: passer rating he had sixteen point three percent prior to
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: that that Eureka date, since then sixty six point seven percent.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: What does that mean Pat Mahomes since that date he
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: has thirty seven point three percent of like Sam Donald's
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: sixty seven percent one hundred passer ratings, Pat mahomes thirty
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: seven percent. Pat Mahomes in his entire career is exactly
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: fifty percent as far as and by the way, the wins,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: where Donald has seventy five percent in the last three years,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Mahomes has seventy two percent. You mentioned Tom Brady. I'll
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: close with this. Tom Brady in is, in my entire
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: career won seventy five point four percent in the last
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: three years. Sam Donalds won seventy five point zero. And
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: what percent did Tom Brady have a one hundred no more,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: forty six point eight called forty seven percent Sam Donald's
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: sixty seven percent in the last thirty six games. This
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: guy here, we talked about Pete Carroll had you know,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: after the Jets failure and the Patriots failure, you know,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: he went to Tibet, climbed some mountains, you know, smoked
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: some incense, whatever the hell, and and became a new man,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: and he tried everything, worked at USC and what have you.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know what Sam Donald did, but that one
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: time that he had to sit on the bench for
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: and watch for eleven weeks and then he got to play.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: He has been a new man. The numbers are staggering.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: And this year, you know, look he's he's won seventy
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: five percent of his games this year. Yeah, I know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I'm fifty eight percent of the time. He's been over
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: one hundred passer rated. Now it's dipped a little bit lately,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: but I think, big picture, this is a pre damn
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: good quarterback. And and uh, you know, until he fails,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, we're gonna, you know, we're gonna have
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the big conversation on December nineteenth, on Friday after after
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: that game, and then then I'm gonna all shut up
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: about that. If he fails on that one, you know,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: then I'll probably have to just kind of, you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: you know, zip my lip. But I think for now,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I still have respect for what this guy has done.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know one guy that does. Wasn't happy
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: about him setting that Tom Brady record. That was justin Jefferson.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: You could see it in his face on Sunday. I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: didn't want you to break the Tom Brady two year
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: record of wins with two different teams. Please Why wouldn't
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you Why aren't you still my quarterback? That was justin
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Jefferson's reaction.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson also wasn't very happy that nick even worry
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: picked him up and pile drived him into the turf. Wow,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: that was a ridiculous play that Rooky would make against
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: an all pro.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna talk about nick Emon Warry. Is there
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: more ways? Are there more ways to use him? We'll
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: talk about that on the other side, plus b Jean Robinson,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the problem of the Seahawk defense will face this weekend.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about those things next. Sports Radio ninety three
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: point three kh A RFM. But we're talking to some
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Seahawk football. Of course, coming off a twenty six nothing
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: shutout went over the Minnesota Vikings in anticipation of their
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: matchup Sunday with the Atlanta Falcons defense certainly on a
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: roll right now, no doubt Mike McDonald loves putting that
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: donut on the scoreboard for the Vikings on Sunday, and man,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Nicki Minori. Greg has just been amazing this year. Thirty
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: fifth pick in the draft, what a steal, and his
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: versatility is certainly one of the unique traits about him,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and yet Mike McDonald sees that there's more than I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: can do with this freak, doesn't.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: He He said, he's making it up as we go.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: He said, I hate to admit that, but we're making
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: it up as we go because this guy everything we
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: think of to possibly do, he's mastering.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: And said, yeah, what else you.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Got when they drafted him?
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: The night they draft him, he was there.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: They've traded up seventeen spots.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: To get him out of South Carolina at the top
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: of round two.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: In the first two games, they said, when they drafted
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Nick emand Worri cam Chancellor and Kyle Hamilton and those
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: of us have been around the game a day or two,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: We're like, who wha, wha wait, whoa. This guy hadn't
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: even had a practice in the NFL yet. And McDonald said,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I'm going to use him like I did Hamilton in Baltimore.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: What did he do with Hamilton? And Hughan knows and
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: he'd talked a lot about Hamilton's use used him as
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: he was listed as a safety. They used him as
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: an in the box linebacker, they used him as an
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: outside linebacker, edge rusher. They'd use him as a cover guy.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: They used him as a pass rusher. He became an
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: All Pro from Mike McDonald using him that way. They
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: are using nick emon Worry in just eight games. He
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: missed three games with the high ankle sprain he got
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: in the opener five games five plays into it, remember,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: and just eight games they're using McDonald is using Emon
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Worry in more ways than he ever used Hamilton. He
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: had him playing nine tech and five tech defensive end
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: against Minnesota. I when I was in the I had
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: the binoculars on him because I watched him a lot,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: because I'm fascinated by watching the different places McDonald puts him.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: And I was like, wait a minute, he's got his
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: hand on the ground on the line of scrimmage. And
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: so I went back Monday and relooked at it, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: sure enough, he was outside the tight end at nine
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: tech six times, and I counted one time he was
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: a five tech outside the shoulder of the tackle. And
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: so I asked him specifically, wait a minute, what's this
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: defensive end stuff?
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: He says, We're just making up as we go.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: We thought, Hey, if you got edge wretching, speed and power,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: let's see if we can translate that by putting him
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: one on one against the tackle on the edge instead
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: of bringing them from the way outside as an outside linebacker,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: and it's worked. He can also do zone blitzes and
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: fake blitzer and fake brass rush and drop him into
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: coverage out of the defensive end. Nicki Minwore played fifty
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: snaps against the Vikings. He had twenty eight as a safety,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: and not all those safety were the same. Sometimes he
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: was in the box safety against the run. Sometimes he
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: was a post safety in coverage. Sometimes he was a
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: nickel safety in the slot. He was an outside linebacker
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: for about a dozen plays, and then he was an
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: inside linebacker with Ernest Jones, is the only two off
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: ball linebackers on the field about another dozen times, and
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: then he's been an outside linebacker on the edge, and
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: then he's been now a five and nine tech.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: What else can he may end up being a new
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: right guard.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Nicki mund worry has exceeded what McDonald thought he could
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: do with them already in eight games. And he says,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep tinkering and doing stuff with this guy
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: because he's so good at absorbing everything. The guys in
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: the team love him. They think he acts like a veteran.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: They love that he asked a ton of questions and
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: meetings that they love that he's sixty four and two
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: hundred and sixty three and two hundred and twenty pounds.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: If the speed yet with the strength, this guy on
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: the trajectory he's in with the coach, he has has
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: a chance to be an All Pro in a year
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: or two. And again we're only eight games into his career.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I can tell you this without even being in the
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: film rooms. Every offensive cording that plays the Seahawks are like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: where are they putting three? Do we have a plan
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: to combat him?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: To? This guy's everywhere.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be TJ.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Watt this week?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: It sounds like Hugh defensively, Obviously things are going well.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I mean Max Brosmer looked like a undrafted rookie making
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a staff start last week against this team, and now
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you're going against somebody that has dads of experience, one
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: hundred more years of experience than Max Brosmer and Kirk Cousins.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: But it's been a while since Kirk Cousins has played
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: good football at the quarterback position. How do you think
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks, how do you think he fares against the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Seahawks defense the way that it's going right now.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: When you take a guy who's unathletic like he is,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: certain I don't think he was athletic when he was young.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: He's certainly not athletic now after Achilles heels in his age,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: those type of quarterbacks can beat the blitz because they
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: use their mind and they have you know, they changed
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: protections and they know where their hets are and what
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: have you. And but I still think that the Sea
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Hawk defense will look at him and uh be be
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: just locking their chops. And I think that what they'll
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: they'll have they will disavow some of their their pass
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: wrest principles that they have to employ against the more
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: athletic quarterbacks. For example, if you're on the on on
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: the backside, you wouldn't want to just take the B
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: gap the gap between the guard and the tackle on
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray's backside because he'll you'll, in fact he did,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: he ran for twenty seven yards when when when Seattle
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: made that mistake, you can do that on the backside
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: of Kirk Cousins. So I think they're going to be salvaed.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And you know, I'll tell you just a note on
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Emon Worry. The play that impressed me the most is
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: they had they had determined they were going to play
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: cover one cover one as man and man with the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: free safety, and Emon.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Worry broke the defensive halo. He's on the left.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, I got I got number two in
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: this whoever's number two counting outside, that's gonna be my man.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Well that happened to be Justin Jefferson, and they just
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: kept with it. You didn't see any you didn't see
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: any hand gestures like hey, help me out, let's switch.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: He just, like the most routine, just got up there,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: pressed on. Justin Jefferson covered him. Then it was it
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: was an extended play. Covered him on the initial route,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: then Brosmer rolled out, covered him on the off script
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: and got a pass break up. Really could have and
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: should have had an interception, you know, shadowing Justin Jefferson
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: all over for an extended play. So so I think
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: everything that Greg says about the versatility, here was a
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: guy that that was put in the role of Kyle Hamilton.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton, coming out of Notre Name, was thought to
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: be a very smart, instinctive player long at six four
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: where where Emon worry. Maybe maybe he's a tad shore,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: but he's just a lot more athletic. Maybe he didn't
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: show the tape instincts that Kyle Hamilton had in college
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: at Notre Dame. But with Mike McDonald, that's acceler you
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: know those are you know you're getting an acceleration in
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: your schooling. You're just skipping over the two hundred and
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: three hundred classes. You're going as a rookie straight to
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the four hundred and five level classes. Right, you're already
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: in grad school because Mike McDonald's your professor, and so
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: it's fun to watch.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: So you just slap him on Bjohn Robinson, Greg, is
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that how you're going to defend? Defend it? On Sunday?
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Greg?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Greg muted himself, Greg, Well.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I think he's too valuable to spy on anybody because
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: he's so good at all over the field. Emon worrying college,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: McDonald said, didn't play near the line of scrimmage nearly
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: as much as Hamilton did at Notre Dame, so he
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: had to project even worry more than he projected Hamilton.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: He was explaining this to me when I was asking
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: him about Emon Worry and how all this how new
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: this is to him? And Emon Worrey told me, Yeah,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I rarely was near the line of the sky. I
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: was closer into the box, but I was rarely up
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: on or near the line of scrimmage like I am
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: with McDonald. That play with Justin Jefferson, he ran the
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: improv out route for Jefferson. He was actually inside of
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Jefferson toward the sideline as if Brozemer was thrown to him.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: And when McDonald after the game, his comment about that
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: play with Emon Worrey was, he needs to catch the ball.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: That's how exactly McDonald is. He is almost expecting him
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: to cover Justin Jefferson like that, And we're going to
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: see more from em and Worry.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: We really are.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: And you know in the eighty five yard pick six,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: obviously he had de Law up the field and that
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: was pivotal in that play. But you know Seattle zoned
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: did it was a man beater and you know Seattle
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: had the right play call for that play. But while
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Rieke Woolan was in the flat defending the primary receiver
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Jones of the halfback, uh, you had Emon Worry really Okay,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Woolan's Uh, he's got the flat. Let me fall off
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and help the corner up because the quarterbacks on the move.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Let me let me sink and help Kobe Bryant who
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: was on the inside and would have been susceptible to
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: an outbreaking rounte, which was what he was facing from
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Jordan Addison.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: So it was emon worry, that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Sense of like, Okay, I'm good here in the flat,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: let me help out where I'm needed. You know, that's
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: an instinct to play, as Greg says Chuck, you know,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: in in just his eighth game, and you know this,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: this is the type of thing with with his skill
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: set and and is growing in. I don't want to
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: say there were instincts that just his knowledge of the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: game is just on on uh, you know, hyper speed
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: because of McDonald, and it's showing up on plays like that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Here Mellen, Greg Bell with us. It's the twelve man
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: round table. We do it every Thursday. Certainly more ground
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to cover. We'll get keys to victory from Greg, maybe
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a score even and then final thoughts from Hughes. The
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Seahawks get ready to face the Falcons in Atlanta this
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Sunday at ten o'clock. We continue right here on Chuck
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Of
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: course Greg Bell as well normally BUCkies here. We hear
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: him chime in, I have a feeling you he was
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: gonna say, I don't care what happens, just don't want
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: to watch Anthony Bradford play this week. So that's probably
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: was going to be Bucky's take here to close out
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the hour. But I actually heard you defending Anthony Bradford
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: this week a little bit.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me clarify that, because you know, for years
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: he's been my least favorite Seahawk, not because of who
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: he is. I don't I've never talked to the man,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: just what I see on the tape. And I would
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: swear Greg that he's gained some weight since training camp,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: because there were some games I saw in preseason where
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, Anthony Bradford's looking a little swelter, a
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: little quicker, but you know he's ruggling in and uh,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: but I want to specifically say what I defended.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I defended.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Apparently I haven't seen them, but there's photos going around
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: of of Anthony Bradford blocking nobody in the passing game. Yeah,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I've watched the video, I can imagine what plays that
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: happened and and what the Vikings were doing is if
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: they put a linebacker in an a gap and and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: fifty one, remind me who fifty one is for the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: via like he was lined up over Anthony Bradford, he
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: would engage for a couple of steps and then fly
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: out to go cover it, you know, in a zone,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: kind of trying to pattern read in his zone. And
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: if the camera is snapped at exactly the precise point,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Bradford looks like he's blocking nobody. But that's that could
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: happen to any guard. Now. On the on the counterplay,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: go down in the red zone where he's pulling right
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: to left, he's got the end man on the line scrimmage,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: he doesn't.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: He doesn't.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: He's not fitting up on an off ball linebacker. He's
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: got the n man. The guy's right in his face
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: and him blowing by that. In the running games, that's
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: a that's a no Boyne. But in the passing game,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I think he's getting a little bit of a raw deal.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: But that's the narrow window that I'm defending him. Otherwise, look, Greg,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I see more of the same from him, And you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: this year he is out of ninety qualifying guards. PFF
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: has him ranked eightieth. The year before, he was seventy
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: eight out of eighty three. The year before, he's sixty
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: seven eighty eight pass blocking. This year he's eighty fifth
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: out of those ninety qualifiers. It's just kind of lather, rinse, repeat.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: So I think that you know, he's just I think
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: is the least capable starter out of twenty two count
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: twenty four counting the specialist.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I think he's the.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Guy that needs to be upgraded the most in the offseason.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: But you're just gonna have to deal with that, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: maybe we'll see some Christen Haynes, maybe we'll see some
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Sundal there, but it's it's just kind of a disappointment
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: every Sunday. Great.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: He has probably gain weight because he told me during
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: the summer that he had lost a lot of weight
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: and that was his plan to train toward getting quicker.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: So it's probably that he is.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I think Sundew eventually is going to take that job,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: whether it's next week in his first week back from
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: injured reserve, I'm not sure that's going to be that.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Hi, Greg, give me your keys to Sunday, and how
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  Speaker 1: you think this game is going to turn out.
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  Speaker 4: Two words for the Seahawks to win this game, Bijon Robinson.
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  Speaker 4: If I'm the Falcons, I give him the ball twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty five times running pass. He's got nine hundred and
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  Speaker 4: ninety five yards. He's the fifth leading rusher in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: The Seahawks are going to get the two of the
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  Speaker 4: top five rushers in the league the next two weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Jonathan Taba rolls into Luminfield next week. He's number one.
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  Speaker 4: So they got to stop Vjon Robinson. Now we've talked
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  Speaker 4: about this. Seahawks are third in the league in rush defense,
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  Speaker 4: but teams are not running against them because they're falling
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  Speaker 4: behind early in games. The Seahawks point differential in the
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  Speaker 4: first half is the best in the league, which means
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  Speaker 4: that foes are chasing the game and having to abandon
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  Speaker 4: any plans to run. The Vikings had six runs by
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  Speaker 4: each of two running backs on Sunday. That's it six
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  Speaker 4: so out of fifty plays. So they're not even trying
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  Speaker 4: to run against them, right, Well, the Falcons are going
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  Speaker 4: to try to run against them, and they're gonna run
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  Speaker 4: early often in all game long with truer test of
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  Speaker 4: how good this run defense is coming Sunday with Bijon Robinson,
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  Speaker 4: and then the truest test yet'll be with Jonathan Taylor
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  Speaker 4: and the Colts a week from now.
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  Speaker 3: As long as.
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  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald is coaching this defense, and as long as
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  Speaker 4: Leonard Williams and DeMarcus Lawrence and Nicky mun Worry and
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  Speaker 4: Devin Witherspoon.
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  Speaker 3: Are playing in it.
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  Speaker 4: In Ernest Jones, the Seahawks win this game nine and
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  Speaker 4: nine point nine out of ten times.
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  Speaker 3: I think they win, call it twenty seven to ten.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the Falcons muster much offensively against his defense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of with you on that one, all right,
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  Speaker 1: you your final thoughts to close this out?
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  Speaker 3: Where we go?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bijon Robinson, So a lot of talk this summer
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  Speaker 2: about the outside zone with Clint Kubiak. You're gonna watch
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  Speaker 2: a team that is the most committed to the outside
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  Speaker 2: zone in the Falcons. With Bjon Robinson, he has one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen outside zone runs. The next closest number
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  Speaker 2: two is eighty six. Christian McCaffrey. By the way, Can
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  Speaker 2: nine has fifty eight basically half right at half of
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  Speaker 2: what Bezon Robinson.
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  Speaker 3: That's this year.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, Bezon Robinson one hundred and seventy eight was
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  Speaker 2: the most outside zones in the NFL. Next closest guy
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  Speaker 2: was one hundred and four. I think he's tremendous at it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of him. But I think that
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  Speaker 2: Bison Robinson is going against the wrong defense for that.
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  Speaker 3: You got team speed, you got.
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  Speaker 2: Emon worry that they're trying to get to the edge
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  Speaker 2: if they can get it. Otherwise there's the cutbacks.
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  Speaker 3: I love.
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  Speaker 2: You know, let's see if there's more dime where you've
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  Speaker 2: got Witherspoon on one edge and Emon Worry. They've up
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  Speaker 2: their dime. The Seahawks from four four plays per game
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  Speaker 2: to nineteen plays per game since Emon Warry has been
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  Speaker 2: back because he was going to be so yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and also because of Willano. I think had a really
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  Speaker 2: good game at least a few good plays this past Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: and and the hustle play on the eighty five yard
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  Speaker 2: pick route that really grabbed my heart. But but in
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  Speaker 2: any event, I think it'll be interesting for Seahawk fans
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  Speaker 2: to say, Okay, this is what we talked about in
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  Speaker 2: the summer. The Falcons are going to try and do it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to do it successfully, but
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  Speaker 2: I think Robinson's a hell of a back but it'll
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  Speaker 2: be a challenge. Yeah, and it'd be fun to watch
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  Speaker 2: that outside zone.
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  Speaker 1: All right, man, awesome stuff as always, Thank you very much,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll chat with you both tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, hamber down, thanks all right.
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  Speaker 1: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider at the News Tribune. You
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  Speaker 1: can follo him at the Newstribune dot com and at
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  Speaker 1: g bel Seattle there on X. He'll also be with
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  Speaker 1: us tomorrow morning at seven o five for his Friday conversation.
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  Speaker 1: We get the latest injury reports from Greg every Friday,
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  Speaker 1: and Key's more keys than the one he gave us
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  Speaker 1: here to during the roundtable. And of course our QB one,
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen. He'll be with us tomorrow at nine o'clock
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  Speaker 1: for his x'es and O segment, the award winning excesses.
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  Speaker 1: We need to make him an award, Ashley. Ok Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we make a Hue Award for his award winning x'es
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  Speaker 1: and o's. I've already I can already picture what it's
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  Speaker 1: going to look like. I think that's a great, great
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  Speaker 1: getting ahead of it kind of mode that you're in.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next college football Playoff ranking Selection Sunday is
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  Speaker 1: coming up. And one thing that I want to discuss
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  Speaker 1: before we get to selection Sunday is that we really
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