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You Been Screwin’ the Milkman! · Like a Virgin

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  Speaker 1: Okay, so Rose. The other day, I was like standing
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  Speaker 1: in the kitchen and you know, I was carving up
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  Speaker 1: a chicken for dinner, mine in my own business, and
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  Speaker 1: in storms my husband Wilbur in a jealous rage. You've
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  Speaker 1: been screwing the milkman, he says. He was crazy. He
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  Speaker 1: kept screaming, you've been screwing the milkman, girl.
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  Speaker 2: And then it ran into my knife her ran ten times.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that you used to be able to
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  Speaker 2: order sour cream from milkman? Not just milk, not just.
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  Speaker 1: Milk, but sour cream. Kind of disgusting if you think
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  Speaker 1: about it. Also the fact that we used to have milkmen.
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  Speaker 1: We used to have I think professional kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of well, I mean milk people.
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  Speaker 1: No milk equality, not milk them O.
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  Speaker 2: I think milkmen are kind of charmingly retro. I think
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  Speaker 2: we should I would think we should bring that back.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some like raw milk service that exists
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  Speaker 2: in like a Gramercy Park and Williamsburg.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, bring back milk professionals, milk technicians.
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  Speaker 2: Milk technicians. I want it straight from the cow. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: that honestly, I wanted the milkmant. Milk people's hands to
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  Speaker 2: still smell from the udders.
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  Speaker 1: If I had a milk person, if I had a
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  Speaker 1: milk professional, I want to fuck them too. Like, let
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  Speaker 1: me tell you, I.
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  Speaker 2: Never said I wanted to fuck them, but I do.
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  Speaker 1: But I do. We did sing the cell Boc Tango
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  Speaker 1: at your birthday party last night.
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  Speaker 2: And it was one of the few group numbers we did.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't nail it, but there was a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a scramble and I was like, I was made pop
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  Speaker 1: and that was like, I really didn't want to be Pop,
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  Speaker 1: But who did you want to be? I kind of
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be you. You've been screwing the milkman, Squish.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be Squish.
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  Speaker 2: I also we should we should have we should have
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  Speaker 2: cast the roles earlier. I mean, I knew I was
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: going to be Velma aka Cicero. That was never in question.
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  Speaker 2: That was but it was. And I think it also
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  Speaker 2: is hard to do a group number with only two microphones.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, and thank you for saying that. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: for the grace that you're giving our performance. But otherwise
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was a sleigh as it was all
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  Speaker 2: of the numbers. I thought our rendition of get together
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: started in a in a rough place and then we
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  Speaker 2: really found our way to it.
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  Speaker 1: It was sur it were uncomfortable, you were like we.
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  Speaker 2: Were like it was you were like the real and
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  Speaker 2: so so real.
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  Speaker 1: Girl. Another thing that Virgins missed. We went to Club Confessions,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my Gods, guest of Absolute Vodka as a guest
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  Speaker 1: of Madonna herself. Madnna invited us personally. We got we
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  Speaker 1: had we both had random texts that said see you
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  Speaker 1: at Club Confessions. Seem girl. Okay. I also must give
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  Speaker 1: myself credit. You wanted to leave right before you had
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  Speaker 1: one of the best moments of your life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I knew as soon as I saw you like
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  Speaker 2: that tweet that you were on that you were gonna
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  Speaker 2: have something else.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna rub it in your face because girl
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  Speaker 1: wanted to leave, and I said, I said, baby, you'll
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  Speaker 1: never hear these remixes again. Stay another fifteen minutes and
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: you see it. Another fifteen minutes and what happened. You
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: astral projected into the sun. Your soul left your body.
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: I've never seen ecstasy on your face on a one
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  Speaker 1: rose dom you that I had.
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  Speaker 2: It was the absolute insanity of being in a venue
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  Speaker 2: full of gay people and Madonna is on stage and
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  Speaker 2: hung Up starts playing, and we're all kind of looking
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  Speaker 2: around at each other like is this really happening right now?
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: It's can you believe we are in this moment? It
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: was I was actually just talking about this in therapy,
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: like I hate to say it, but it was radical
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  Speaker 2: queer joy, I really do. I love the way that
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: you laughed. You were like, that was my room. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: that was good.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, hung Up into get Together?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, it was not hung Up in to get together.
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  Speaker 2: Get Together was the first song she did. Get Together
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  Speaker 2: was the first Confessions one song she did after her
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  Speaker 2: like Confessions two set.
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  Speaker 1: Oh she did get together?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry hung Up?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I don't know she did. Well, maybe she did.
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: If she definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Did get together and hung Up I know that, And yeah, girl,
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  Speaker 2: that was I mean club Confessions generally was so much fun.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone was there. I saw people from literally every era
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  Speaker 2: of my New York life. They were all there. Some
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  Speaker 2: people who I was like, Okay, I kind of expected
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  Speaker 2: you to be here. You I'm sure you were invited
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  Speaker 2: and these are the usual scene gays. Other people who
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you set one of those dancing
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  Speaker 2: videos into mister and got put on the list a surprise,
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  Speaker 2: and you know what, I'm happy for you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. And yeah, like I think I
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  Speaker 1: to be honest, because I was at the reopening of
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  Speaker 1: the Boom Boom Room post COVID where Madonna performed in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Question Mark, you can't remember when it was.
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  Speaker 1: I was very worried because that was that twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: one moment was when I learned that Madonna stands are
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  Speaker 1: the worst kind of fan base on the planet sometimes
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  Speaker 1: because they are white gay men who think they're entitled
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  Speaker 1: to some kind of marginalization and therefore kind of like
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: orient themselves with a kind of privilege. But there was
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  Speaker 1: so much physical room at the Knockdown Center.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 1: So pleased that they did not book it like heavily
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  Speaker 1: over capacity. It felt like so right.
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  Speaker 2: It was very comfortable. It Also, I think it was
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  Speaker 2: just you could, I think feel in the air that
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  Speaker 2: this was one of those legendary New York nights and
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  Speaker 2: the vibe was so uniformly positive and celebratory. Yes, there
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: was no irony or like, ugh, I can't believe we're
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: all here seeing Madonna.
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  Speaker 3: Lol.
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  Speaker 2: It was like I can't believe we're all here seeing
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  Speaker 2: Madonna on.
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  Speaker 1: Ironically, we are retreating into a former self and understanding
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: that we are genuinely excited to be here and there's
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with.
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  Speaker 2: That, and that the dance floor is a ritual space.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: Well, everything begins with consciousness. And people think that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: dance music, it's superficial, but it's not.
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  Speaker 2: It's not, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: And Rose when Madonna said tick TikTok, it's a quarter
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  Speaker 1: to two, and it was literally one forty five am. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was literally one forty five am. When she said
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  Speaker 1: tik TikTok, it's a quarter to two, I almost pissed myself.
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  Speaker 2: And when we say said, we do mean said, because
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: Madonna was not performing so much as shows kind of
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: speak words, spoken word, speaking the lyrics on the microphone
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: over the tracks that Stuart Price was playing, which I
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: love got seeing Madonna and Stuart Price together, beautiful mother
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  Speaker 2: and father.
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: Literally Mary Magdalen and Jesus Christ literally literally vibes.
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  Speaker 2: It was also we looked amazing. We looked so good
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: must be said.
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  Speaker 1: Must be said, and everyone's saying three, but we looked amazed.
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: Fucking iconic. I my hair my bob was bobbing.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: Your bob was bobbing. Your cut was fresh.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: I have yeah, since we last recorded, I have cut
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  Speaker 2: off approximately for another four inches of hair.
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: I am about to do the same. I slicked my
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  Speaker 1: body in oil put on.
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: You were strapping oily and I was doing in a
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  Speaker 2: in a in a lovely way.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: Every time I touched you, I was like gooey. I
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  Speaker 1: am something that this like kind of you know, I
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: feel like it's a bit of a Madonna's Madonna's Stan
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: Phase era, deep dive kind of bands, Blane compelled like
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: upset Madonna re obsession. This has all led to me
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: revisiting Madonna remixes, which like are truly like it's a
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: remix catalog that I'm sorry it's unsung or like should
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: be more sung. Maybe it's not unsung. I think it's
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: it's pretty song. No, no, no, no. The thing is is
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: that it actually deserves more credit then what it's kidding
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  Speaker 1: is That's what I'm saying is that it actually needs
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: to be appreciated more.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, in speaking of Madonna, if you are not already
• 9:18
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• 9:21
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• 9:25
  Speaker 2: our deep dive on Confessions to the original Confessions on
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: a Dance Floor album sort of Madonna's career in general.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: It's a very exhaustive, intelligent, and funny deep dive, so
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: definitely go listen. We have two bonus episodes a month.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: There'll be another one coming later this month, so check
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  Speaker 2: it out.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, highly researched Deep Dive episodes in an hour and
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: forty minutes of talking about Madonna herstory.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: So fran has listened to now how many times?
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: Only three? Oh right, only three?
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: Because as much as all of you love our podcast,
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: no one is a bigger fan of Like a Virgin
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: than one, Miss Frantrado.
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: That's correct. But the thing, one thing that we didn't
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: discuss on that episode is the Madonna remixes. And I
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: just want to sell promote uh my Madonna remix playlist.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: Go on to here Madonna Remixes. You can search it
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  Speaker 1: on Spotify. Have you listened to some of these or
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: or appreciate Do you have a favorite Madonna remix by
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  Speaker 1: any chance? Obviously, Like some of her remixes are so
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: ubiquitous that they become the track itself, Like The William
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  Speaker 1: Orbit remix of of Light is like just the song,
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  Speaker 1: now you know I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do love that one. I've played that in sets before.
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  Speaker 2: There's a really good remix of what it feels like
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  Speaker 2: for a girl that I used to play, and sets
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  Speaker 2: a lot the.
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  Speaker 1: Above and beyond remix. Yes, yes, I have.
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  Speaker 2: So many good ones because Madonna, you know, for for
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  Speaker 2: decades has been she's been fucking DJs. She's and fucking DJs,
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: and she also and then working with them. Well, Like
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  Speaker 2: one of the things I things I loved was that
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  Speaker 2: the weekend that Confessions Too came out, she released all
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  Speaker 2: of the all of the stems for free. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know so that people could remix them.
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  Speaker 1: Are you serious? I didn't know that where that was
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  Speaker 1: on her site or something I don't remember. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: that's so fucking sick. Yeah, Like she really is like
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: making music for the girlies that want to mix. And
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: I think that's so sickening. That's just like something that
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: more artists should do. Because I love without words, love
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: without words. I will quickly plug the up down suite.
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  Speaker 1: There's also a remix I think from Erotica called Waiting.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: It's like waiting it's called Waiting Remix. It's so good.
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  Speaker 1: I also am basic and I really love the kind
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: of jungle mix of the Bedtime Story. But yeah, anyways,
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  Speaker 1: Madonna remixes, I'm like clinically addicted and now I can't
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  Speaker 1: skip them. Shall we get into like things we watched
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  Speaker 1: consumed this week that were not Madonna?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I know that you did finally start watching X
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  Speaker 2: Men ninety seven. Yes, uh, you're not totally caught up
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  Speaker 2: on it, but.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I would say I've been having it on well
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: justin and I watched the first episode Superstone, and I
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: was like kind of having a cup season right the
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: very first episode of the very first season of this
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: re release or this reboot essentially, and I had the
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: only thing that I can act the conversation really is that,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: like it the for the animation quality and honestly voiceover
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: style of the show to be so so so hyper
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: referential of nineteen eighty seven, for it to sound and
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: look like nineteen eighty seven is so satisfying and like prestige, artful,
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: like and that like the original theme song to me,
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  Speaker 1: like it.
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  Speaker 2: Just oh, this is so fucking sick, babe. I want
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  Speaker 2: to hear that on a DJ set. Maybe I'll try
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: to find a remix of that for Doll Invasion.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, please, I would love that. I'd be cunt, that'd
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: be cunty boots. But yeah, I have only the rest
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: of the show. I've been watching on background sometimes while
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: doing work. But I know that there is like some
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: kind of news that's coming out of the second season
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: that's on air right now.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Well, no, it's it's actually it's not about the second season,
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: which is currently airing and which has been really good
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: so far. I haven't watched the new episode that just
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: dropped today, but uh, there was a leaked post or
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: image for Avengers Doomsday, which is coming out later this
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: year and feature there's a bunch of the original Fox
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: movie X Men, and there's been a lot of discussion
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: around the lineup of those X Men online, and it is, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: not a good lineup, primarily because there's only one woman
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  Speaker 2: in it. It's a total sausage fest. And if if you,
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: if Marvel specifically could learn anything from X Men ninety
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  Speaker 2: seven that somehow they don't already know, it's that any
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: X Men, any mutant team rests on the women in it.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, I'm trying to see.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: So the leaked image I can I can tell you
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: from memory. Yeah, it's it's Professor X, Magneto, Cyclops Nightcrawler,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Channing Tatum as Gambit from Wolverine and Deadpoll. And then
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: the sole female mutant is Rebecca Romain as Mystique with
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: a fuck ass bob Wow. And she's finally wearing like
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: a sort of comics accurate Mystique look. But it's not good.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, at least she's wearing clothes, even though,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: like I think naked Mystique from the movies is hot
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: as fuck, but like, yeah, that is weird that she
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: was forced to be naked when Mystique has like never
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: looked like that in the comics.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: But it is crazy to.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Have an X Men team with one woman because the
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: thing that everyone knows about X Men is that the
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: women are what make an X Men team. Like, how
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: are you gonna have an X Men team with no
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Jean Gray, no Storm, no Rogue. It just and I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: know they are rebooting X Men. There was actually a
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: rumor started making rounds this week that Adam Driver is
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: going to play Magneto, which I don't really know how
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: I feel about someone someone said, oh no, they're gonna
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: make him an October seventh survivor.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Well, but also like, why would you after he's done
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Star Wars. That just feels like, I mean, Marvel is I.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Think that Marvel's very first thought.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the thing about a lot of Marvel casting,
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  Speaker 1: especially when they cast someone like an Adam Driver who's
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: like a kind of weird face character actor, kind of
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: but still Academy adjacent actor that you wouldn't think of
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: for a superhero franchise like that, Marvel's really good at
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  Speaker 1: casting types like that, like putting Michael.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Fassbender as Magneto as young Magneto, like starting an X
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  Speaker 2: Men first class that's really good casting, or.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, like all the way back to fucking Tony Stark,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like what's I can't my
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  Speaker 1: member's fucking name, or.
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  Speaker 2: Or like it's casting Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart as
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  Speaker 2: Anato and Professor X. You know, like there is there's
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  Speaker 2: a legacy of this kind of casting, but casting.
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  Speaker 1: Julia Louis Drivis like they're good at casting it. So
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  Speaker 1: Adam Driver, to me, that's just like that's not inventive
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  Speaker 1: and it just doesn't sound right to me, so I
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  Speaker 1: hope that's not true.
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  Speaker 2: I know there was someone. There was another rumor I
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: saw of someone who had been offered the role that
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I think made a lot more sense, but I can't
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: remember who it was. I just I also think like
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  Speaker 2: that's that does. That does give me a little bit
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: of hope that they will be cast. They will be
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: making the X Men young, because you know, Adam Driver
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  Speaker 2: is pretty young to play Magneto considering you know, Ian
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: McKellen played him in the in the Fox movie franchise.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I feel I feel like we're
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: going to start hearing about some of this stuff, starting
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: with spy Man Brand New Day because the rumor, as
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I said in a recent episode, the rumor is that
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Sadie Sink is playing potentially Jean Gray or maybe rachel
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: or Hope Summers her daughters. It's a little obvious because
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Jean Gray and Sadie Saint's character in Uh Stranger Things
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: are extremely simple like Stranger Things. Her Stranger Things character
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: is Jean Gray adjacent slash maybe inspired by Jean Gray. Well, no,
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  Speaker 2: I think you're thinking about eleven different.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: No, No, I'm thinking I mean Sadie Saint's character has
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: like there's a kinetic, there's a telekinetic.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: She doesn't have any powers. No, when she's like in
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: the when she's like in the there's isn't there a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: moment in the later season where she like is connected
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  Speaker 2: to the fucking whatever?
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I don't really care, but well, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean it's more so that she's like, she's a hot, young,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: famous redhead, so like of course she would play Geen
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  Speaker 2: Gray or someone related to Gay.
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  Speaker 1: I must remind it, remind you that you met James
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  Speaker 1: and Julia were fan casting The X Men Reboo and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I very bravely put forth Julia Fox as Magneto. And
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  Speaker 1: I really think that's really good.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Wait, you know what's crazy is that I
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: so this this weekend, I had uh, I had lunch
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: with our friend Jordan and Uh, Jordan and I's mutual
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: friend who I went to college with, and he reminded
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: me that we used to hang out with Julia Fox.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: She she lived across the street from us when we
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: lived on the Lower East Side when we were twenty one,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: and she like used to and she like used she
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: was she like you no, No, this was like pre spectrum.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: She used to like come to house parties at my apartment.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Love love, crazy pre spectrum lore. Speaking of adaptations, though,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I know that you have some thoughts on another recent
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: animated to live action adaptation.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll get it out of the way because it's like,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: honestly so basically to talk about, but I just have
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: to get it off my chest because look, Avatar the
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Last Airbender, the original animated series widely considered one of
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the greatest honestly series of the twenty first century, one
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of the greatest animated series of all time, and very
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: very known that the live action is, as we say,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: huge medaga flop doo doo kaka shit from a butt.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Everyone hated it. The first season came out like, I
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: don't know, a year or two ago, and we all
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: knew that it was going to be bad. I like appreciated,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: actually some of it, because I was like at the time,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: still new to Avatar in general, and so I was
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: like in love with the world and liking some parts
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: of what it was doing. But in general, I as
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I was watching the new season of the live action
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: adaptation that it just came out, there's so many different
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: problems with it. I think the big thing is like
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the episodic nature of the original show being kind of
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: truncated and then only focusing on like the melodrama and
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: like taking out a lot of action sequences and a
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: lot of side plots that are really fun and engaging
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: in are the part of the show that we love
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: is just like so soulless, and it just like is
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: not right. But the other big thing is that, like
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the original Avatar is a hard comedy, like a hard
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: hard comedy for children for children, and this live action
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: try like tries a joke here and there, but doesn't
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: even commit to it in the slightest. These actors are
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: every single one of them is so unfunny, so so
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: like cringe unfunny, and none of them are good actors, sorry,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: all of them.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I do think that Zuko really good, and I also
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: think gat. I also think the actress who plays Azula
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: is good. I don't love the necessarily the way she's written,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: but I think she's a good actress. I don't like
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: how she's written either, I like, yeah, it's just as
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Zula is so like she's one of the larger and
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: over the top in the comics that it's like it's
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: just being played and written in a very understated way.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: And I get that they're trying to put their own
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: stamp on it, But why would you put your own
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: stamp on something that's one of the greatest things of
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: all time? I mean you could, you could take that
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: all the way back to just like the impulse to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: make a live action version of the show exactly.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Which is soulless. It's a soulless like position to be.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: It's a soulless kind of like endeavor.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: That's just what I mean. That's what I keep hearing
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: about the new Moana adaptation too. Like we've been having
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: this conversation about live action Disney adaptations for ten fifteen years.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: It's just like it it is. It comes from this
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: cultural mindset of that like animation is not valid and
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the only thing that has any real like artistic merit
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: is a live action film or TV show. I know again,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I as you're saying, like it is like almost it's
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: like basic of me to even like bring it up,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: because I think it's like, of course it's going to
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: be bad. But I just I love the original series
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: so much, and so I I don't know it's just
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: like nasty to me. And the other thing that I
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: was thinking about on this like comedy thing is like
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: they very clearly for the majority of the characters can
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: as actors that look exactly like the animated character, like
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: they're trying to pick someone with the same face shape,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: And I really wish they had just picked people that
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: were funny and good actors, because none of these kids
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: are good actors. They just look exactly like the characters,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: which is cool, and like the design, the production design
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I think is kind of cool, but they're charming. It's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: really good.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: The bending looks great when they do have action sequences.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: When they do have action sequences that are very, in
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: my opinion, infrequent, like there are there's not enough action
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: in the show. I they are that it looks good.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, anyways, just wanted to get that off my chest.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm shocked you you even watched it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I honestly like barely watched the last couple episodes of
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the second season. I was like falling asleep to them
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: basically because I I'm not gonna lie, didn't have anything
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: else to watch.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: You should watch The Americans, which I finished last week.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna do that.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: It's so they're I know your review is your review
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: was compelling, It's.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Incredible, and now having seen all of it, I can
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: say definitively it's one of the best TV shows I've
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: ever watched. Incredibly incredibly no hyperbole, incredible, incredible writing, incredible acting,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: some of the saddest characters. Oh my god, Martha, oh girl,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: or like there was there's this one scene in the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: second season where there is a woman who Matthew Reese's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: character has like turned into an agent for him, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: she has in sequence then flipped this afghany like like
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: diplomat also into being like a secret agent, and he
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: kills her accidentally, and then Matthew Reese and Carrie Russell
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: help this person break, like squish this woman's body together
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: so that they can fit her into a suitcase. And
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: like you, I mean, you don't see everything, but like
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: you see out of frame them like bending her limbs
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: down and like you hear the bones breaking.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: It's just fucking gnarly. That sounds kooky, campy.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: There's a lot oh my god there it's it's wild,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and it's like it's such a good show and that
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: like I love I love any kind of film or
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: TV show where you realize that the protagonist is the antagonist,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: that you realize the protagonist, the character that you've been following,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: has been the villain all along. That very much is
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the case with the American, specifically Carrie Russell's character, so
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: highly recommend. Also, now that we're almost at the end
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: of the season of The Vampireless Dat, I do kind
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: of want to give an update on my thoughts please,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: so I have I have seen all the episodes that
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: are out. The season finale premieres this weekend. I think
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the season got better as it went on. The last
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: two episodes specifically, were the best episodes of the season.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: In season five, we finally got to see Akasha, which
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: was incredible. Sheila at him I think, is her name
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: fucking fantastic? Like, you know, we have the the image
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: of specifically Aliyah as Akasha. I think like looms so
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: large in the public consciousness around Anne Rice and the
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Vampire Chronicles that for her to come in and put
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a really unique spin on this character and make it
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: so iconic and make it so that I want us
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: to get to Queen of the Damned is fab and
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: then in the sixth episode, Delaney Hales, who plays Claudia,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: returned as Claudia's ghost in probably like one of the
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: best scenes of the show so far. But all that
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: being said, I still had a lot have a lot
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: of problems with this season. The editing style has just
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: like never quite worked for me. I keep wanting to
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: see these flashbacks rather than montages of them. I still
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: don't love what they did with Gabriella's character. I wish
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: there were more Louis and the stat scenes In the
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: most recent episode, we have the most loostat content and it,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: like I it's like amazing, Like, oh yeah, when you
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: put the stars of the show in a scene together,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the show is really good. And I know that that's
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: not necessarily like how the story plays out in the book,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: but they're playing fast and loose with a lot of
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: adaptational changes, so I don't understand why we couldn't get
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: more of that.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I am kind of gagged by everything you're saying, only
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: because I mean, for virgins who do or do not
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: watch the Vampire List sat or, like you know, the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: interview with the Vampire re reboot series, this is pretty
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: much your almost your first negative critique of the show.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, and I still think it's I still think.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: You're like, literally unambiguously given this like one hundred percent
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: on your critic Rotten Tomatoes, et.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Cetera, for sure, And I do still think it's amazing.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: And I think this season is still comparatively better than
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: most of what's on TV right now. But the first
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: two seasons of the show were so incredible that this
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: season has been a little bit of a letdown. And unfortunately,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I do think some of the choices they made in
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: adapting this Somorts material and just in general changing the
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: format of the show around Lestat have been bumpy for me,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: and I think a lot of.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: People who enjoy the show. Well, I won't be tuning in. However,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I did see Sheila and Tim's like an excerpt of
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: her monologue on Tim Madison's Instagram was incredible, so good.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: She she is the queen of the Noil, and just
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: like the choice to like because you know, in the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: in the in the movie and in.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: The books, Akasha and Enkil who's her husband, they have
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: they have been.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: At rest for so long that they've become these marble statues.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: But in this you know, new version of them. They
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: have Akasha b Bronze, which is such a cool creative
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: choice and also I think works so much better the
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: way that this show has centered around blackness and like
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: the black American experience. But you know, she was only
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: She's only in one episode, and there has been no
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: news about the show being renewed. Shit. I really hope
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: we do get a season four so that we can
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: get an adaptation of Queen of the Damned.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: That would be amazing.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I think the creators have said that they ended the
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: third season in a way where it could be a
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: definitive ending if they don't get renewed. I think they've
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: said that about every season of the show so far.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of TV shows to do kind
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: of try to do that in case things don't get renewed.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah you don't, you never know. But yeah, it's kind
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: of a bummer. I still think I still had a
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: lot of fun, and I do want to go back
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: and rewatch the whole season once it's all out, so
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: that I can kind of form my final thoughts a
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: little better. But yeah, I don't like to be the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: person saying that the most recent season of my favorite
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: show is not that good or it's not as good
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: as I wanted it to be. But unfortunately that's where
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: we are.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: It happens. You have a few other things on the agenda.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to tell you kind of about
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: a movie that I don't think you'll.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Ever see the invite. Everyone's talking about this.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think you'll see it because it's
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: so heterosexual.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, this is like an Awards contender. No, people
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: are talking about this for the Oscars conversation.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I do think you should see it. It's a it's
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: an amazing movie. I gave it four and a half stars.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: On Letter Understand Olivia Wilde kiss as a girl. That's
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: pretty much the only thing that I know about it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll give you like the bare bones logline,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: it's very it's a it was adapted from a Spanish play,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: and it's like, it's very Virginia Wolf. It looks exactly
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: like very Virginuale. Who's afraid of Virginia Wolf?
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I literally am looking at I'm I'm looking literally based
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: on the key art and typeface, I immediately understand the
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: tone and and and concede.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about two couples living in San Francisco, one
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: of whom are Olivia Wilde and Seth Rogan. The other
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: are Edward Norton and Penelope Cruz. Uh. Seth and Olivia
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: live in an apartment downstairs. UH and the other two
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: are their upstairs neighbor.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: ME guess the marriage is troubled.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Their marriages, Well, they invite, they invite. Olivia Wilde invites
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: their neighbors over because she wants to be friends with them,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: while Seth Rogan hates them because they have extremely loud
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: sex above them. And so it turns into this sort
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: of you know, comedy of manners, comedy of errors. It
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: has a lot to say about I think the current
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: state of you know, like American heterosexual monogamy slash non monogamy.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: So they have sets at the end probably well what
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: you find out. What you find out is that the
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: couple who live upstairs. Penelope Cruz is a like sex
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: therapist and edwardologists a sexologist, and Edward Norton is her
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: retired firefighter boyfriend, and they as the movie goes on,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: you find out they want to hook up. They are
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: are having such loud sex because they're having group sex.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Upstairs and they want to have sex with their with
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: with Oliviy Wilde and Seth Rogan, and they make the
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: thing the half a star he took off. This movie
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: is because they make such a point of negotiating all
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: this and talking about what's gonna happen, and like the
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: men they have, it's never even discussed the option that
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the guys could do something together. And of course just
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: of course felt that's crazy. It felt crazy to me
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: for this movie to be taking place in San Francisco
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: They given they even talk about.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Pegging in this movie, girl like like Edward Norton talks
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: about how he loves having his ass played with, and
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: yet the possibility of the guy is doing anything together
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: is never even alluded to.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Girl, is this the nineteen eighties, oh, the nineteen fifties,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like maybe their show. There's never even on House of Raging.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: There's never even an implication of it. Like, there's never
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: even a moment where like Seth and Edward like look
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: at each other and the kind of.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Kiss because men can't kiss, but girl kiss, girl kiss
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: hot girl kiss hot men kiss bad men kiss gross?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, like not, there's not even like a oh,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: we'll all fucked together or like in the same room.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: It's like when they you know spoiler, when they do
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: eventually like they're gonna hook up, like both couple, both
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: new heterosexual pairings often into into separate rooms.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Girl, Like that, what the fuck? A failure of the imagination.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: There's there's literally nothing radical about that. There's nothing titillating, exciting,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: radical new age, nothing shocking about that. That is like
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: literally such a failure of the imagination. I'm so sorry,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like actually so angry.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: It was. It was shocking to me. It just felt
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: like for a movie, movie that had so much to
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: say so incisively about modern relationships, for that to be
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: such a blind spot was crazy. Otherwise, the movie is amazing,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: especially Olivia Wilde's performance. Okay cool, my god, she will
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: be getting an Oscar nomination. She also it's also incredibly
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: well directed by her, directed and starred it script weirdly
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: enough by Rashida Jones to come back after kill your
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Darlings or whatever, don't don't kill me, darling, Darling, which
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I let's remember I liked. Yeah, I remember, I'm a defender.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah I did I justice justice for don't worry Darling.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I defended Harry Styles acting, not as.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I defended Harry Styles saying it's a movie that feels
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: like a movie, because a movie, right, he was right.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Another movie I've seen it feels like a movie that
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you have it is Evil Dead Burn? Which is which
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: is the new Evil Dead movie coming after Evil Dead Rise?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: From twenty twenty three or twenty streamable? I want to
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: stream it, No, it's in theaters right now. I think
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: you will watch it once it's on streaming. So I
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: don't want to go to in depth on it because
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I think we could talk about it later. What I
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: will say is it's an interesting take on an Evil
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Dead movie, because most Evil Dead movies are about a
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: group of friends in some location and scary shit happens.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: This is about a family. They're at a wake after
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: someone has died, and it's really well directed, and in fact,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: the director is insanely hot.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm looking.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I gave an extra half star on box for how
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: hot he is, Sebastian Venicek. He's also French.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, it looks like that as.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: A French accent.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: He looks gay. He's wearing gay clothes.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's just because he's French.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're right.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very well directed, script not so great and
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: there The Evil Did Rise was a really fun movie
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: that is elevated because of the incredible central performance by
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Alyssa Sutherland as the mother slash lead Deadite. While there
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: are some good Deadite performances in Evil Dead Burn, there
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: is no singular performance like that for the movie to
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: sort of, you know, revolve around, so it never kind
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: of hits that spot that really like takes it over
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: the edge. There also is an elderly character who, while
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: she does become possessed, it kind of felt like a
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: waste of an old person in a horror movie because
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like rich opportunity. Horror movies really love old
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: people because I think they we we culturally have a
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: lot of disgust with the elderly that directors and writers
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: are able to really play into and and expand on.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: And I just didn't think that this did enough With that.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: That being said, there's some really great gore, some great kills.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: A dog does die, unfortunately, but then it comes back
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: as a zombie, so that's fierce.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry, we weren't going to talk about this.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: But like I did watch Lee Crunnin's The Mummy, which,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: for the Virgins, is a new horror film that has
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: nothing to do whatsoever with the original Mummy franchise. No,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: that has literally not even not even an adaptation of
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the original stories. Nothing to do with the original story.
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  Speaker 1: Is just another separate movie called The Mummy. The youth
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: of the kind of grandmother in that movie was sab
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: In my opinion.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Also directed directed by Lee Cronin, who directed Evil Dead Rise.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Right, which we love.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, but that's why I didn't like The Mummy, because
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I felt like it was just an Evil Dead movie.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: There was any one hundred percent agree it was an
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: evil Dead movie. Itcase same conceits, same kind of driving,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: for same kind of light camp in some of the
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: gore aesthetic. There was nothing. There was nothing specifically Mummy
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: about it except for the fact that she was like
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: wrapped in bandages and had gone missing in Egypt.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So like for the Virgins, I'll just say
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: for the Virgins, like, the story follows an Egyptian family
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: that mysteriously loses their daughter. The daughter has been presumed dead.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: They're not Egyptian, they're not even a Egyptian. Yeah they are,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I thought they were. They they start out in Egypt,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: and then because.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: The dad is like an ambassador or something, what's Yeah,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: they're not Egyptian.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: She goes, how much it goes to show how much
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I know. But a lot of the film is in Arabic,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: which is cool. Anyways, the daughters presumed dead, and then
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: eight years go by, the families moved to Albuquerque and
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: they've been notified that their daughter was found dot dot alive,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: and the daughter is found basically in a sarcophagus kind
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of in a mummy coffin that was being transported by
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: like a seaplane. The seaplane crashes, everyone dies except this
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: girl who's basically just a demon possessed kind of Lee
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: cron And style Evil Dead.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it just has had I liked. I liked it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I was like gooped and gagged. I thought it was
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: like I didn't have like any even though it wasn't
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: like sublime like I thought it was kind of. I liked.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I laughed sometimes, and I thought the gore was really good.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not like lasting impact film.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I just found it very disappointing in that, like, how
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: are you gonna make a movie called the Mummy. I
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: like the least important part of it is the fact
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: that she's like, quote unquote Mummy.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like why call it that?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Honestly? But maybe it literally could have just been evil
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Dead sarcophagus, you know, yeah, evil Dead Egypt.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I like that we're adding to the Mummy cannon. It
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: just should have been called something else.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Like, I like expanding on the Mummy cannon and that
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: there's this like yeah, like contemporary sensibility and then Mummy
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: as demon possession I think is interesting. But it is
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: just an evil Dead movie for sure.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so not not not huge like a virgin stamp
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: of approval now there.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: But I thought I thought the Mummy was cunt like.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I thought she was kind of autopsy of jin do
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: levels kind of like cunt.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I thought that Timdress gave a really great horror performance.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I agree, I thought she was fab Okay, Anyways, the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: only thing we have to say about House to Dragon
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: this week, I mean, it'll be obvious to the virgins.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ormond High towers ass well, but why didn't they
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: show cock? They should have showed cocking. We're seeing so
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: much nasty shit on this show. We can't see cock.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: We can't see cock. Cock.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Do you think that actor is gay? Because I've seen
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: some interviews with him. He seems a little fruity.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: He one. Sorry, It's like I keep forgetting that we're
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: on the main RSS feed now and that we probably
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: shouldn't speculate about people's sexualities like I just did with
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the director of Evil Dead Bird.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Well, it's okay.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I do think he's gay, by the way, I'm looking
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: up and he has not quote unquote revealed any information
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: about his sexual orientation, which means he's gay.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Because was he at Club Confessions?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, I will.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Say there were a lot of guys who looked exactly
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: like Kim met Club Confessions.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, so okay. The actor who plays Ormond High Tower,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: his name is James Norton. He was in Uh, He's
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: played gay three times. He was he played the this
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: gay manager. He was in the stage adaptation of A
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Little Life. Oh yes, girl, And he has a gay
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: ass and a gay body.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: And sorry in interviews he has a gay voice.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Straight man don't have bodies like that, and I this
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: is like, really they do?
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: When there?
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I think it might have a girlfriend. So he probably
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: should stop talking about this, but maybe we'll just say
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: he has gay vibes and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: And if you think there's something wrong with that, you're homophobic.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: You know who is homophobic the Emmys because Industry was
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: snubbed in every fucking category.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: That's so psycho. I like, girl, I read like an
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: indie wire kind of like opinion piece explainer by Crystal
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Fault that it like does some like we're Rose and
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I were not like Insider Baseball Awards, Whisper Divas, like
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: we just have taste and we know which things are good.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: But what was explained is that when a show kind
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: of doesn't have the prestige label from jump, when it's
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: like a show that appreciates in value season every season,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and Industry has a really great first season, not a
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: great second season, and then season three, season four was
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: when people were having a lot more of this prestige
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: TV kind of accletes conversation. He the writer Chrystal Fault
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: says that, like it kind of demonstrates this thing that
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: happens in words where if you don't start out like this,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: it's like it's really impossible to earn the prestige label
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: in later seasons, even though like what fucking what is
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: her name? Marissa Marissa, I can't remember who plays yasmine.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Marissa Abella, Yeah, Marcavelle and Mahala like they both have.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Nominated or Supporting Actress noms, Like why why why, I'm
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: so sorry for.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: The best work on TV. Actually the biggest, the biggest
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: snub for me was ken Lung nominated for Supporting our
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Guest Actor. His work in every season of Industry has
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: been it's exemplary, and in the most recent season he
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: made me extremely emotional yes, with a really incredible performance,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: particularly in his final episode.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: And ken Lung has been like prestige from Jump, like Marissa,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Isabelle and Muhala like have been giving stunning performances from Jump.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: But there the quality and characterization just it just gets
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: richer and richer and richer, and ken Lung like was
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: complex from like the first scene.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: It also just feels like a missed opportunity because I
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: do think feel like the Emmys and their voting body
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: loved to give people kind of like representative awards for
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: their career of work that has not been celebrated. Yes,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: and he really does fall into that category. Meanwhile, why
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: the fuck is the wet eyed twink from The Pit nominated?
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: When he was barely in the most recent season.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: He was nominated.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: He was nominated for a Supporting Actor. It's crazy like
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: everyone from that show was nominated except for the women
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: of color. And I didn't like as much as I
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: love The Pit, I didn't even think the second season
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: was as good as the first one.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I kind of am I gonna say it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I also think that the Awards season's I think that
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the Emmy's kind of like obsession with Hacks over the
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: last couple of years also sometimes feels overblown. I think
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: that obvious.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: It's like they only watch three shows, you know, and
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: they're like, we have to we have to nominate every
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: single part of this show rather than watching anything else.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Jean Smart deserves everything. Like that's there's no question about that.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: It's just like that they're Yeah, I think you're exactly
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: on the on the nose. They only watch three shows.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: And it also it's like kind of the shows that
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: are working the hardest campaign. Probably.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: However, I am happy about all the nominations that Widow's
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: bagot because that's cast me feel like that show now
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: will have very long legs. I the only thing I
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: hope is that they don't start tailoring the show based
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: on its reception, Like I don't want that it's suddenly
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: like Patricia is the main character of season two, Like
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I want. I want the show to stay what it is.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: And you know, maybe that's a good thing about industry
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: is because they're not working towards awards, are just making
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: the show they want to make. Maybe you know it
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: will be as good throughout its entire run as it
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: has been because what you said is so true. It
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: really has appreciated. Every season has been the best season
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: so far.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really has. It's it's and it's just also
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: on an acting level, Like I don't know. I sometimes
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I wonder like what I was, Like, is it like
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: the sex that people don't but I remember that like
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: fucking like you know, House the Dragon or wait, what's
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the Night of Seven Kingdoms or whatever?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: That was crazy. I'm sorry. As much as I loved
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: that show, it did not need all those Emmy nominations.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: No, I'm like, yeah, I don't, I don't really, Yeah, whatever,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: we clearly.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Are not part of the Emmy's voting body.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: No, but we should be.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: We should be. Yeah, we should be nominated for a
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Golden Globe for Best Podcast.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Oh you should write in and no, I mean you,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the listeners should write in yes, so that we can
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: be nominated for the twenty twenty seven Golden Globes.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: We're coming for you, Amy Poehler. Okay, I feel like
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: that concludes our itinerary. Yeah, I am oh oh for
• 51:27
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• 51:31
  Speaker 1: patreon dot com slash like a Virgin and listen to
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: our Confessions Deep Dive, an hour and forty minute episode
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: about Confessions one and two talking about the hearstory track
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: by track reviews, et cetera. And also, we will be
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: doing a ranking of female that's right, I said, female
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: led action movies, maybe bracketing them.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: And we're gonna pit women against each other because it's
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: what we know how to do best. Yeah, and what
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: we love to do.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: And yeah, more to come. Love you so much, Visions,
• 52:03
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