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The Fresh Start of Grace with Drew Dyck & The Difference Between Obedience and Legalism with Dan Darling · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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  S1: and crew.
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  S2: Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome what seems
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  S2: impossible and live as you never imagined.
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  S1: Delivering the truth daily.
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  S3: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available.
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  S3: And you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
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  S3: that would make it worth it.
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  S4: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
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  S4: the life source, which is God.
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  S5: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S5: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
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  S5: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and Crew.
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  S2: Well, I hope you're feeling good coming off the big weekend.
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  S2: Boom crew.
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  S4: That's a weekend that goes fast. 4th of July weekend.
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  S2: Yeah, it went fast for me. Well.
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  S5: And welcome back.
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  S2: I had a little bit longer than a weekend. A
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  S2: little bit. It was a good week so far. It
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  S2: was so good. Man came back refreshed as can be.
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  S4: Oh that's good.
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  S5: I'm glad.
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  S2: Feeling ready. Ready to go here. It's, uh. It's interesting man.
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  S2: I gotta say this. Look, for all of our imperfections.
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  S2: We got plenty. And we got plenty of things to
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  S2: repent of. And we need another great awakening in our nation.
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  S2: But this. Come on. A republic where officials are elected
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  S2: to have 250 years of continuity and growth. More evidence
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  S2: over the week. This last week I was gone that
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  S2: my goodness, greatest country going period. Full stop. I mean, yeah,
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  S2: we got a lot of imperfections, but my goodness, I.
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  S2: The proof is in the pudding for me. One of
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  S2: the coolest restaurants I've ever been to in my life.
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  S2: I went to on vacation and it's called The Loft
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  S2: and it's in Door County. Uh, up in Michigan. Wisconsin.
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  S2: Excuse me. Who? People in Wisconsin.
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  S4: Oh.
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  S2: They were like, what do you mean? Um, and it
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  S2: was just an epic place. But then to see the
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  S2: story of this couple behind this thing, I'm going to
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  S2: get into that a little bit later on this morning,
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  S2: the full story on it. But it's one of those
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  S2: stories where you walk away going, oh my goodness, people
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  S2: can you can come to this country, roll up your sleeves,
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  S2: get to work. And it's flat out amazing what you
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  S2: can do if you got the gumption. It's amazing.
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  S4: It is. It's it is difficult. Yet everyone has an
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  S4: opportunity and I. That's not something you can say about
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  S4: every country. There are certain countries where depending on where
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  S4: you grew up, the, you know, the system that you
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  S4: were in, the family that you were born into, you're
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  S4: limited from certain things. You know, you think about the
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  S4: caste system in India. It doesn't matter how hard you work.
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  S4: The caste you're born into is the caste you stay
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  S4: in for the rest of your life. And that's just
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  S4: how it is. Yeah.
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  S2: Yeah, it's so true, man. I mean, the, the amazing
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  S2: thing about the American dream, which by the way, I've
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  S2: shared a lot around here, has its own failings, especially
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  S2: when you try to leverage the same mechanisms to grow
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  S2: up in your relationship with God.
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  S4: 100%.
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  S2: But the American dream, it's why people flock here.
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  S4: Yeah.
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  S2: They're flocking. They aren't flocking to Iran. They aren't flocking
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  S2: to Afghanistan. They're flocking to Russia. No. And they're no
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  S2: longer flocking to Europe. No, they're flocking here.
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  S4: I mean, we, I, I yesterday our friend at church,
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  S4: Carl Legit. He shared with us. He shared with the
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  S4: whole the whole congregation, uh, before he preached his sermon that,
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  S4: you know, he grew up in India. And he said,
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  S4: when I was growing up, all of my friends, he said,
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  S4: had a dream of moving to America. Every single person
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  S4: I knew their dream was to come to America. He said,
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  S4: he said, I didn't have that dream because I didn't
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  S4: think it was ever possible for me to get here.
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  S2: And he's the one that's.
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  S4: Here and he's the one that's here. And, and so it's,
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  S4: it's a reality. I think when we live here, we
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  S4: don't recognize just how good we have it. But there
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  S4: are so many other countries where every kid's dream is
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  S4: to just be here, just, just to live here, not
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  S4: necessarily to do something here, but to live here.
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  S2: Yeah, yeah.
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  S4: It's it's a good thing.
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  S2: It's an extraordinary thing. I mean, do we have problems?
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  S2: Of course. I mean, is this. Do we live on earth? Shoot. No.
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  S2: Absolutely not. You kidding me? But is it a great
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  S2: place to plant your flag. Get with the program. Yeah. Uh,
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  S2: by the way, speaking of the whole world loving to
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  S2: get here or slash hating us, we got more reasons
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  S2: to be hated. Tonight at 7 p.m.. Have you noticed
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  S2: the news? What's this kid's name that got reinstated?
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  S4: Uh, balagan.
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  S2: You know what's funny? People went from not knowing anything
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  S2: about soccer or little bit about soccer to having a
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  S2: strong opinion on Balagan red card. And. Yeah, and now
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  S2: he's been reinstated, and it looks like our administration might
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  S2: have gotten the mix of it. And oh, I mean,
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  S2: they're all ticked off. The Belgium head coach is like,
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  S2: this is not good. And and he's.
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  S4: One of our best players.
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  S2: Boy. But it was a bogus red card. I don't
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  S2: know anything about soccer, but I saw it.
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  S4: That's the that seems to be the sentiment is that
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  S4: it was highly controversial.
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  S2: Yeah. He didn't intend it or something like that. And
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  S2: I even got into the rules of what a red card.
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  S2: What constitutes a red card? Yeah. Yeah, I did. I
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  S2: got the rules.
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  S5: Hilarious.
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  S2: You read the rules on what constitutes a red card.
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  S2: And that was. That was definitely not a red card.
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  S2: That was a yellow card. Yes. But, boy, that thing
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  S2: got reversed. Or it got delayed or something.
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  S4: It got. Yeah, it said it got suspended for a year,
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  S4: which I don't even know what that means. Like, well.
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  S5: He's on probation.
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  S4: Okay.
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  S5: So if he should get another red card or something.
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  S4: Within a.
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  S5: Year, within a year or certain violation within a year.
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  S2: And I heard he had to do it, serve it
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  S2: within a year, but just not on World Cup stage
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  S2: or whatever it is, whatever it is. We've got him
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  S2: tonight at 7 p.m..
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  S5: One game at a time. Okay.
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  S2: And now? Now. Oh.
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  S4: Another question.
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  S2: What's the dude's name? Alexa. Alexa. What's his name? Somebody
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  S2: help me.
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  S4: Here. Oh! Oh, the old soccer player who.
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  S2: Played the old soccer player. Yeah. No, no. Not Pelé.
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  S4: Well. Oh, Alexi. Lalas.
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  S2: Lalas. Yeah. Lawless. Okay. I didn't want to say that
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  S2: because I thought he might be a law biter. And
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  S2: if I got it wrong, I might get it wrong.
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  S2: He's lost. So Alexi Lalas, he's like, yeah, now we've succeeded.
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  S2: We're going to have the whole world ticked off at us.
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  S4: Well, the question is. So I genuinely don't know that
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  S4: much about soccer. Is this a normal thing that happens
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  S4: or is this happening because it's we're like a host. No,
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  S4: I don't.
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  S2: Think they're picking on us. I think the I think
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  S2: the VAR, which is video replay, he stuck his nose
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  S2: in that screen. And I think what he saw, I mean,
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  S2: what he saw in slow motion was pretty bad. I
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  S2: mean his right cleat went down.
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  S4: On his.
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  S5: Achilles. And I mean that's not good.
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  S2: Laid the ankle over. Now the guy went on and played.
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  S2: But I believe the rule involves malicious intent or some
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  S2: level of intent where you can.
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  S4: Kind of prove.
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  S2: It. He wasn't even looking at him. He was just
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  S2: he was just putting his foot down.
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  S4: Just moving. Yeah.
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  S2: Just putting his foot down. But we got him reinstated.
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  S2: Hasn't happened in 60 years. So guess what?
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  S5: There you go.
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  S2: People, either they want to get to this country, but
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  S2: if they can't get here, by golly, by gum, we're
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  S2: going to cheer against you. Now, we got more reasons
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  S2: to in the World Cup.
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  S4: You know, I told my dad this weekend, I said,
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  S4: I think it'd kind of be just for for comedy's sake.
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  S4: I think it kind of be funny to have the
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  S4: US win the World Cup just because, oh, the one
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  S4: country that's in here where most of the population doesn't
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  S4: really care about it all that much, wins the entire
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  S4: thing against all these countries where it's like their most
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  S4: important thing.
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  S5: They gotta get by Norway though. That's kind of my goodness.
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  S4: Oh yeah. Norway had a good win. We have a
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  S4: Norwegian friend in here, Andrew who is big cheering for Norway.
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  S5: Yeah.
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  S2: Yeah well my team's out.
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  S5: Yes we did. Yeah. Sorry.
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  S4: Sorry about that.
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  S2: Yeah. I need to call up my Swedish.
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  S4: Look at all of us.
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  S2: I've never watched.
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  S4: A full game of soccer, and we're all in here
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  S4: talking about it.
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  S2: I've got a Swedish friend who, uh, actually tells phenomenal
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  S2: Sven and only jokes. Didn't I have him on here
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  S2: one time?
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  S4: I think he did years ago.
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  S2: Yeah, yeah, years and years ago. I need to get
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  S2: some Sven and all the jokes in here for sure. Okay.
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  S2: Coming up. We got a lot going on today. We're
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  S2: talking this week about soccer. And. No, I'm kidding. We're
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  S2: talking this week about living free. Yes. And the question is,
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  S2: how can we be so free and so stuck? And boy,
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  S2: does this relate to the American dream. We're going to
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  S2: be breaking it down for you today.
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  S1: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to Carl and Crew.
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  S2: You know, this freedom that we have in Christ. It's analogous,
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  S2: but only on steroids compared to the freedom that we
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  S2: have in our nation. Look, and I'm going to keep
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  S2: saying I shouldn't have to keep qualifying this, didn't use patriotism,
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  S2: didn't use to have to be where you put parenthetical
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  S2: statements like, I know we're got a lot of problems.
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  S2: I mean, doesn't that go without saying? Yeah, we got
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  S2: a lot of problems. We got a lot of things
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  S2: we got to repent of and change and, uh, allow
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  S2: for people to make a way where we've impeded some opportunities.
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  S2: All those things exist. I mean, those, those are real.
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  S2: But America is analogous at some level to the spiritual life.
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  S2: And it's right here in Philippians chapter two, I love this. Therefore,
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  S2: my beloved, as you have always obeyed. So now not
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  S2: only as in my presence, but much more in my absence.
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  S2: Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Now,
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  S2: if you just clip that verse, you just look at
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  S2: that verse. You go, oh boy, yeah, man, I gotta
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  S2: get on that treadmill. But there's something that is analogous
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  S2: to the freedom that we have as a nation in America,
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  S2: only it's way better because this is not just an opportunity,
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  S2: it's a total transformation of your nature. Because it goes
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  S2: on to say, for it is God who works in
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  S2: you both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
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  S2: So it's because this is what Paul's saying, because of
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  S2: the initiating work of God who loved you so much
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  S2: that he sent His son to die for you, he
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  S2: died for you, called you out of darkness, changed you.
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  S2: You are no longer enemies of the cross. You are
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  S2: children of God. Work it out, man. We're talking about
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  S2: living free this week. And why are we free but
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  S2: still stuck? And the headline from this passage is a
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  S2: tough one to swallow, but we're going to get after
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  S2: it here. What's that headline? I'll have it with you
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  S2: and our special guest, drew Dick. Straight ahead.
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  S2: Talking live and free, obviously. Analogous to this great 250th birthday.
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  S2: Are you kidding me? And coming off of that, there's
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  S2: a lot of parallels between the United States of America
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  S2: and the life that we have in Jesus Christ. And
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  S2: it's it's an amazing thing, though, that I guess where
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  S2: it breaks down is nobody's rushing to the shores of
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  S2: Jesus to find that freedom that he offers.
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  S4: But fortunately not.
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  S2: But but it's real. Yeah. And it's powerful. The question is,
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  S2: how can we be so free and still be stuck?
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  S2: And it boils down to one thing. I'm gonna give
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  S2: you the headline, and then I'm going to get a
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  S2: great dude in here to talk about it. Here's the headline.
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  S2: This is tough. I'm going to give it to you.
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  S2: And it's hard, but I have to say it to
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  S2: myself all the time. And let me Parenthetically say, good grief,
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  S2: a lot of warm ups here. But let me parenthetically
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  S2: say this the goal of Christianity is not to perform
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  S2: in a way that you get in good with God.
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  S2: That's never the goal. Grace is all about God's favor
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  S2: and his power to do in us what we can't
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  S2: do in ourselves. But look here, Philippians 12 or excuse
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  S2: me two. Some of you are like, wow, new chapters.
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  S2: Philippians 212 through 13 therefore, my beloved, as you have
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  S2: always obeyed. So now not only as in my presence,
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  S2: but much more in my absence. Work out your salvation
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  S2: with fear and trembling, for it is God who works
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  S2: in you, both to will and to work for his
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  S2: good pleasure. Drew Dick. This is a great passage because
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  S2: it illustrates something powerful, and if you don't read verse 13,
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  S2: you're going to take off on verse 12 with all
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  S2: kinds of self-will, Self striving. But God began this work
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  S2: in us. He secured the freedom. So walk it out.
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  S2: What's your thought about Philippians two?
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  S6: Amen. That's a great passage. I love it because it's
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  S6: got both. You know, God's role. It's, it's God who's
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  S6: working in you. And yet at the same time, we
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  S6: have a role too. Gotta work out our salvation, right? Uh,
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  S6: and I think it's a good corrective because so many people,
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  S6: they fall off the horse in 1 or 2 ways
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  S6: when it comes to this topic. They think, you know what?
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  S6: The Christian life, I can live it just by discipline
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  S6: and white knuckling it and just trying as hard as
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  S6: I can and doing it all on my own. And
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  S6: they negate God's role in the process. Or they say,
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  S6: you know what? I can just sit back and take
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  S6: a pleasure, cruise towards holiness, let go and let God,
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  S6: as some people say. Yeah. And I don't have to
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  S6: exert any effort. Well, both are corrected by that passage.
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  S6: It's saying, hey, work it out. But at the same time,
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  S6: you can't do this of your own volition. It is
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  S6: God's power that's working in you. And probably the best
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  S6: metaphor I've heard is it's like sailing, right? You can
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  S6: you can sit in a sailboat without your wind, your,
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  S6: your sail up and you won't go anywhere. You can
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  S6: just sit there and take a snooze and you're not
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  S6: going to move. But if you put up that sail and,
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  S6: and the Holy Spirit's wind catches it, it's going to
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  S6: move you. So you do have a part to play.
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  S6: But at the end of the day, it's all God's work.
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  S2: Yeah, it's all God's work. And I think, uh, one
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  S2: thing that we're recovering from drew is this, oh, Galatians,
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  S2: modern day Christianity that, uh, who is bewitched you that,
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  S2: that you began in the spirit? Why are you working
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  S2: out in the flesh? So we don't want to become that.
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  S2: But what we do have here is this mindfulness of, okay,
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  S2: it's God at work in you. Therefore work out your salvation.
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  S2: So I'm wrestling this whole week with Living Free. This
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  S2: coming off 4th of July. It's almost like the no
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  S2: brainer week, right? The focus. And today I'm free. For
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  S2: a lot of people listening right now, they're totally free
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  S2: in Christ Jesus, but they're still stuck. And this is
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  S2: the hard reality. Sometimes we got to look in the
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  S2: mirror and go, I'm not working out my salvation with
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  S2: fear and trembling, drew. I'm not leaning into this freedom
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  S2: that Jesus has secured. Why do we get stuck there
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  S2: so often? In fact, let's just wrestle with that. Why
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  S2: do we get stuck there so often?
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  S6: Well, I'd say part of it's normal. And sometimes that's
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  S6: a comfort because when you're in a season of stuckness
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  S6: or dryness and you're just not feeling it, you don't
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  S6: feel like you're making progress. You have to realize that
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  S6: Christians all throughout history, from Charles Spurgeon to Martin Luther,
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  S6: you name it, Christians all throughout the Bible felt these
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  S6: seasons where they felt stuck. And so, you know, my
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  S6: first thing to say is don't panic. You know, it's
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  S6: par for the course in the Christian life and it
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  S6: often doesn't last forever. Uh, so just, you know, stay
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  S6: faithful and, and you don't need to find some exotic
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  S6: spiritual discipline that's going to lift you out of it. Just,
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  S6: you know, communing with God, going to church, reading your Bible, praying.
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  S6: Those are incredibly helpful to get us out of these
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  S6: spiritual seasons of stuckness.
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  S2: Yeah. You know what's funny about that, drew, is you're
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  S2: right on. Um, I think sometimes we're looking for the
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  S2: new and I'm big on this. I do think there's
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  S2: some valuable spiritual disciplines like introspection and quietness and alone
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  S2: and letting God look at your life. And those are
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  S2: important things. But once you do that, there's nothing like
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  S2: open the Bible, read it when it says something, walk
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  S2: it out. I mean, it's it, it just gets down
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  S2: to that. Some people are stuck today and all they
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  S2: need to hear is open the Bible. There's a portion
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  S2: of scripture that's going to relate to where you're stuck.
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  S2: Obey it because the power of God is in you
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  S2: at work right now, and you can go get some
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  S2: victory today.
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  S6: Amen. I remember I had a friend who went through
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  S6: a tough season where he felt stuck. He went to
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  S6: his childhood pastor who'd been a mentor to him, and
• 17:53
  S6: he says, what should I do? And the childhood pastor
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  S6: just said, you know what? Just show up every day.
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  S6: Keep reading your Bible and praying. And the pastor said,
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  S6: it's like doing push ups. And my friend thought that
• 18:05
  S6: was a weird way to describe communing with God. He's
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  S6: like push ups. That doesn't sound right. And yet, as
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  S6: he started to do it consistently, he realized that his
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  S6: mentor had a point because it's like push ups in
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  S6: the sense that it it might not change everything that day,
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  S6: but over time, it shapes you. Right. And, and those,
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  S6: those it's like eating healthy, right? It's, it's not going
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  S6: to make a difference in the next, you know, day
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  S6: or two. But six months down the road, a year
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  S6: down the road, all of a sudden you find that
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  S6: you're feeling better and you're feeling different. And it's like
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  S6: that way with communing with God. Because often the first
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  S6: thing we do when we feel a little bit stuck
• 18:40
  S6: is maybe we disconnect from God, right? We don't we
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  S6: don't open our Bible. We don't turn to him. Yes.
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  S6: And so just having that consistency and listen, sometimes the
• 18:50
  S6: feelings aren't there. And we think there's something wrong when
• 18:52
  S6: we go, you know, I'm not feeling like reading my
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  S6: Bible today. I'm not feeling like praying. Guess what? Often
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  S6: the feelings follow the obedience. And so if we just
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  S6: keep doing that and persisting in it, it can have
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  S6: fruit down the road.
• 19:05
  S2: Uh, we bring drew on to talk about these kind
• 19:08
  S2: of issues. And he's written a book called Your Future
• 19:11
  S2: Self Will. Thank you. And so many of you have
• 19:13
  S2: already gotten it and read it, and some of you
• 19:16
  S2: haven't yet. And I'm gonna give you a link in
• 19:17
  S2: a minute here, but its subtitle is Secrets of Self
• 19:20
  S2: Control from the Bible and Brain Science. I loved, I
• 19:26
  S2: loved this because anytime I'm convinced of this, you get
• 19:30
  S2: a microscope and look closer to cellular level. You see
• 19:33
  S2: more of God. You get an archaeologist. He digs a
• 19:36
  S2: little deeper. You find more evidence of God, but you
• 19:40
  S2: go into the brain and you find evidence of God.
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  S2: What in brain science have you learned that relates to
• 19:47
  S2: this whole issue of God secured our freedom. Now go
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  S2: walk it out.
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  S6: Well, one thing I've seen in the literature on this
• 19:56
  S6: is that often when we obey God, what follows that
• 20:01
  S6: is more obedience. And when we don't, often what follows
• 20:05
  S6: that is, is actually more sinning. And that might sound
• 20:09
  S6: strange because you think, wow, if I, if I just
• 20:12
  S6: kind of beat myself up a lot over my sin,
• 20:15
  S6: then then maybe my behavior will improve. But I've mentioned
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  S6: this to you before, Carl, but I saw this one
• 20:20
  S6: study that was fascinating, um, where, um, diet researchers observed
• 20:25
  S6: people that had messed up in some way, either they'd
• 20:28
  S6: had a slice of cake or a piece of pizza
• 20:30
  S6: that they weren't supposed to eat. And what often followed
• 20:33
  S6: that one small indiscretion was a full on binge where
• 20:36
  S6: they just threw caution to the wind and said, I'm
• 20:38
  S6: going to eat whatever I want. Yeah, because they kind
• 20:40
  S6: of beat themselves up and they called it the what
• 20:42
  S6: the heck effect? You know what the heck, I already
• 20:44
  S6: messed up. I'm going to mess up more. But then
• 20:46
  S6: they observed the opposite phenomenon where when people felt like
• 20:50
  S6: they had a fresh start, they called it the fresh
• 20:52
  S6: start effect, where their behavior actually improved when they felt like, hey,
• 20:56
  S6: I got a blank slate. And that's the beauty. You
• 20:59
  S6: talked about this at the beginning of grace. When we
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  S6: feel fully forgiven by God, when we internalize that grace,
• 21:05
  S6: that he gives us what follows, that is not a
• 21:07
  S6: license to sin, but rather a desire, at least it
• 21:11
  S6: should to obey God and to walk in holiness.
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  S5: Yeah.
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  S2: You know, it's even digging a little bit deeper into
• 21:18
  S2: this text. We're in Philippians 212 and 13 all day
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  S2: to day, but work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
• 21:25
  S2: This is a holy, reverent awe. And, and it's a
• 21:31
  S2: weird one because we use fear as like, go run
• 21:34
  S2: into the basement or something. But the fear here is
• 21:37
  S2: way more than that. It's in reverence for all that
• 21:41
  S2: God has done. Verse 13 For God is at work
• 21:44
  S2: in you both to will and to work for his
• 21:46
  S2: good pleasure. Because of this great sacrifice that he laid down,
• 21:51
  S2: sending his son who died, rose again to give us freedom,
• 21:55
  S2: victory over sin. Work that out. And there should be
• 21:59
  S2: a looking back of sorts. Right, drew, where we go.
• 22:02
  S2: Look at what God has done. My goodness. Quake in
• 22:05
  S2: my boots, open the Bible, find something to obey today
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  S2: and go walk this thing out. What do you say?
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  S6: Yeah, like Scripture says, I can't put it any better
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  S6: than this. It is for freedom that you've been set free, right?
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  S6: And so to walk in that, because you're right, it
• 22:22
  S6: was a a costly sacrifice that secured our salvation. And
• 22:25
  S6: not only that, God doesn't just save us. He's not
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  S6: content to let us stay like we were. He wants
• 22:30
  S6: to see us grow, to be transformed into the image
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  S6: of his son. And that's a lifelong, exciting journey that
• 22:37
  S6: we get to participate in.
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  S2: Yeah, I think the takeaway here, drew, is what is
• 22:43
  S2: that next thing that God would have you do? And
• 22:47
  S2: some of you, maybe, maybe you blew it over the
• 22:50
  S2: big weekend. You know, there's people out there right now. Drew, who, um,
• 22:54
  S2: had been set free from enslavement to alcohol. And they
• 22:58
  S2: frankly went back into it. I'm talking to them right now.
• 23:01
  S2: You're listening right now. Or my goodness, you can come
• 23:06
  S2: away from a 4th of July and said some stupid stuff. Whatever.
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  S2: This isn't a time to go binge on those things.
• 23:12
  S2: This is a time to turn it around. Isn't it, drew?
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  S6: Absolutely. You know, and don't I mean, hey, that's great
• 23:18
  S6: if you're feeling guilty about it because that's God, you know,
• 23:22
  S6: putting a finger on that and saying, I want you
• 23:24
  S6: to change that, but don't dwell on it. Don't let
• 23:27
  S6: yourself get down. Realize that God's well of grace is
• 23:30
  S6: deep and he. He knew that you were going to
• 23:33
  S6: do it before you did. That's a mind bender. But
• 23:35
  S6: that's true. And he's. He'll forgive you when you turn
• 23:38
  S6: to him in repentance. And then the reason he's giving
• 23:42
  S6: you that repentance, repentance is so that you can walk
• 23:44
  S6: in freedom.
• 23:45
  S2: Yeah. Love it. You might want to get this resource.
• 23:48
  S2: Your future self will thank you. Secrets to Self Control
• 23:51
  S2: from the Bible and Brain Science. Phenomenal. Read by drew Dick.
• 23:55
  S2: Just text the word future to 805 557898. Text future
• 24:01
  S2: to 805 557898.
• 24:06
  S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
• 24:09
  S2: It's all about living free. It is for freedom that
• 24:12
  S2: Christ has set us free. And it's analogous to what
• 24:15
  S2: we have here in the United States of America. Man,
• 24:17
  S2: the freedoms that we enjoy. This is why people flock here.
• 24:21
  S2: And parenthetically, yes, we are imperfect. Yes, there are things
• 24:25
  S2: we need to repent of. But 250 years, a representative
• 24:30
  S2: Government 250 years sustaining itself that long. If you don't
• 24:34
  S2: see God's fingerprints on this thing. Gotta open our eyes
• 24:40
  S2: because it's real. And boy, did I get a full
• 24:44
  S2: dose of just how great this country is. While we
• 24:46
  S2: were on vacation, my bride and I got some R&R
• 24:49
  S2: and we had a great time.
• 24:51
  S5: I'm really happy, man.
• 24:52
  S2: It was good. So good. I just fired up, man.
• 24:57
  S2: Came back, revved up, ready to rumble here. So we
• 25:02
  S2: found a restaurant where we were hanging out for a week.
• 25:06
  S2: Found a few actually, but we found one in particular
• 25:10
  S2: that was so good there. Asparagus. Oh, Nelly.
• 25:16
  S4: That's it. That's how you know it's good. Because usually
• 25:18
  S4: when people leave a good restaurant, they're not talking about
• 25:20
  S4: the asparagus.
• 25:21
  S2: No. And I use that as an illustration because this
• 25:24
  S2: is better than any of these high end steak joints
• 25:26
  S2: plopped down the a la carte. And you get a
• 25:28
  S2: tray of asparagus and they're good. They're buttered because you
• 25:31
  S2: can't screw up with butter. But oh my goodness, the
• 25:34
  S2: melted parmesan and the seasonings on this thing and the
• 25:37
  S2: way they were steamed. Oh my word, it was so good.
• 25:42
  S4: But every Carl's gonna be making weekly trips up there.
• 25:45
  S2: Every, every, every meal we had, they had a shepherd's pie.
• 25:50
  S2: And you might think, man, it was hot. It doesn't matter.
• 25:53
  S2: Oh my goodness. And they didn't call it that, but
• 25:55
  S2: I it was basically shepherd's pie where they have this
• 25:59
  S2: cool home baked, baked in kitchen, little big old blob
• 26:05
  S2: of bread. And then they cut the top off and
• 26:08
  S2: then they hollow out, they grab the bread and then
• 26:11
  S2: they pour in just all the innards of the shepherd's pie.
• 26:17
  S2: Oh my goodness. It was good. Oh.
• 26:22
  S4: Did you bring some home to share?
• 26:24
  S5: Watering right.
• 26:24
  S2: Now. My mouth's watering right now. Uh, it was so good.
• 26:29
  S2: So we're there so often that we got to know
• 26:32
  S2: the owner. So, I mean, because I love to chat
• 26:35
  S2: it up with folks. Anyway, the owner's wife, she came
• 26:38
  S2: up and she's chatting with us and I said, so
• 26:43
  S2: when did you start this place? And I could tell
• 26:45
  S2: she had a bit of an accent, European accent. Turns
• 26:48
  S2: out it was Eastern European accent. And she started giving
• 26:52
  S2: us the story. And the story was just epic. And
• 26:56
  S2: I mean, it's an American Dream story. So she was
• 27:00
  S2: managing a restaurant. The service staff just managing them. And
• 27:06
  S2: this guy comes in and he wants to wait tables.
• 27:10
  S2: And she said, I can't hire you. And he said, why?
• 27:16
  S2: And he she said, Your English is so bad, you
• 27:18
  S2: can't wait tables. You can maybe do dishes, but you
• 27:21
  S2: can't do it. And he said, I'm going to come
• 27:25
  S2: back and I'm going to have good English. And he
• 27:28
  S2: came back two months later in his English was just great.
• 27:35
  S4: That's incredible.
• 27:36
  S5: Two months.
• 27:37
  S2: Two months. And the story goes on that now her
• 27:44
  S2: husband is this dude that she sent away and said,
• 27:47
  S2: you got to learn English.
• 27:48
  S4: That's really cool.
• 27:50
  S2: And I said, oh man, how did that come together?
• 27:53
  S2: She said, it took a while because when he came back,
• 27:56
  S2: we started striking up a friendship. And I asked him
• 27:59
  S2: one day, what did you say to your buddies after
• 28:02
  S2: you told by me you couldn't get a job here?
• 28:05
  S2: He said, I went back and said, some woman with
• 28:07
  S2: a Tweety Bird face told me, I can't work here.
• 28:11
  S4: Wow.
• 28:12
  S2: But she does have like a really cute, like, Tweety
• 28:15
  S2: Bird face. It was really funny. So we're all just
• 28:17
  S2: laughing our heads off. So they get married. They're young,
• 28:21
  S2: they're young. I mean, they haven't even started their family yet,
• 28:25
  S2: So they got hitched soon thereafter. And then they start
• 28:28
  S2: going and they go from wait staff to now they
• 28:32
  S2: own one of the coolest, hippest restaurants that is formed
• 28:37
  S2: in the summers for customers, like waitlists, like waitlists. And
• 28:42
  S2: then she's explaining, looking at different things like so they
• 28:47
  S2: heat can come into this place. It's called the loft.
• 28:50
  S2: He can come into this place pretty serious on some
• 28:53
  S2: of those warm days. So he got he got fans
• 28:58
  S2: installed that are just super high end fans. And I said,
• 29:02
  S2: man is the electrician know had to figure it out.
• 29:04
  S4: Wow.
• 29:05
  S2: Figured out the whole thing. And then on the cool days,
• 29:09
  S2: they wanted to get some kind of some infrared heat
• 29:11
  S2: or something in there. So they had these super high
• 29:15
  S2: end heaters up there that were strategically placed look so good.
• 29:20
  S2: And I said, yeah, man, how'd you get an electrician here? Well, no,
• 29:24
  S2: he figured that one out too. But we had to
• 29:26
  S2: get it through inspection, so he had to get someone
• 29:29
  S2: in here to bend some of the tubing. But he
• 29:33
  S2: did the whole thing himself.
• 29:35
  S4: That's really cool.
• 29:35
  S2: And we're looking at these things that block the rain
• 29:38
  S2: when the rain's coming in sideways. And she goes, yeah,
• 29:41
  S2: you see those things right there? These are big, beautiful
• 29:45
  S2: vinyl things that come down and you can still see
• 29:47
  S2: through it and all that stuff. But then they're raised
• 29:50
  S2: with these super cool cords. She goes, yeah, he, uh,
• 29:54
  S2: he went and bought a sewing machine because the cost
• 29:57
  S2: of these things was going to be so much. He
• 29:59
  S2: got a commercial sewing machine, and he went on YouTube
• 30:03
  S2: and figured out how in the world you rig these
• 30:06
  S2: ropes up. And he created the pulley system and everything. Guys,
• 30:11
  S2: they've got this blowing and going restaurant that is amazing.
• 30:17
  S2: And they came from abroad a few years ago.
• 30:20
  S4: That's really cool.
• 30:23
  S5: That's inspiring. I love that inspiring.
• 30:25
  S4: To just be like, you know what? If I gotta
• 30:26
  S4: get something done, I'm gonna figure out how to get
• 30:28
  S4: it done. I don't know how to do it, but
• 30:30
  S4: I'm gonna figure it out. I mean.
• 30:31
  S2: It goes it goes on from there. So you can't
• 30:33
  S2: get wait staff in the summers because it's summer employment
• 30:38
  S2: where we went vacation. It's just summer employment. So they
• 30:44
  S2: recruit from Eastern Europe, they recruit people over. And they
• 30:50
  S2: had bought one home. And I never did see him
• 30:53
  S2: because each day we were there, he's up at a
• 30:56
  S2: five room home that they built, renovated and rent out
• 31:01
  S2: for 13 bucks a day to rent staff that come,
• 31:03
  S2: and that's where they house them.
• 31:06
  S4: That's incredible.
• 31:08
  S5: I know these.
• 31:08
  S4: People are the most innovative people I've never met.
• 31:11
  S5: I want to meet them.
• 31:13
  S2: And it's just it's just the coolest thing.
• 31:16
  S5: Wow.
• 31:16
  S4: We need to take a team field trip up there
• 31:18
  S4: to Door County.
• 31:19
  S2: Yeah. Door County, Wisconsin. It was amazing. Uh, here's my
• 31:24
  S2: point in this one. And it's even more so in
• 31:28
  S2: the spiritual realm. Think about the freedoms that we have
• 31:32
  S2: in this nation. They're huge. And a lot of those
• 31:35
  S2: freedoms don't go leveraged. Well, I think when you're born
• 31:38
  S2: into it, sometimes you don't appreciate what kind of latitude
• 31:41
  S2: we have to go make stuff happen here.
• 31:43
  S4: 100%. Because the the only context that we have is this.
• 31:48
  S4: And so I think we're way more prone to focus
• 31:50
  S4: on the struggles of an imperfect nation, just as every
• 31:54
  S4: nation is, rather than to look around and see something,
• 31:58
  S4: you know better because this is this is the best.
• 32:01
  S2: And we and we, we go to that restaurant, we
• 32:04
  S2: don't build the restaurant.
• 32:06
  S5: We've been here long time.
• 32:08
  S2: You know what I mean?
• 32:09
  S5: Yeah.
• 32:09
  S2: It's crazy.
• 32:10
  S4: But if we wanted to build the restaurant, we have
• 32:12
  S4: the opportunity to do so.
• 32:13
  S2: Yeah, but here's how it inspired me. And this is
• 32:17
  S2: what's cool. This is so analogous to the spiritual life.
• 32:26
  S2: And it's out of Philippians chapter two. I'm going to
• 32:31
  S2: start with verse 13, for it is God who works
• 32:34
  S2: in you both to will and to work for his
• 32:36
  S2: good pleasure. In other words, here's what Paul's saying. God
• 32:40
  S2: invaded your life when you were surrendered, broken, humbled, contritely
• 32:46
  S2: given over to God. He radically altered you. He did
• 32:52
  S2: it in the verse before that says, therefore, my beloved,
• 32:57
  S2: as you have always obeyed. So now not only as
• 33:01
  S2: in my presence, but much more in my absence. Work
• 33:04
  S2: out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Now verse
• 33:07
  S2: 13 for it is God who works in you. He
• 33:12
  S2: secured this freedom. He did it. He secured a freedom
• 33:17
  S2: for us that allows us to way live in ways
• 33:21
  S2: that are unimaginable. That's what grace is. And so I
• 33:29
  S2: want you to just think about that today. Is there
• 33:32
  S2: something about living in this spiritual realm of a relationship
• 33:36
  S2: with Christ? And you're squandering some opportunities. And I just
• 33:42
  S2: want to ask you today, is there a needed entrepreneurship
• 33:47
  S2: to get out, roll up your sleeves and let's get
• 33:49
  S2: cooking with Jesus. Because of this freedom that's been secured,
• 33:53
  S2: it's so analogous with the American dream. Doesn't that fit guys?
• 33:57
  S4: Yes, I love it. And it it just reminds me
• 34:00
  S4: of all the you know, the first thing I thought
• 34:02
  S4: of as we were, you were kind of giving this analogy,
• 34:04
  S4: these restaurant owners is when Jesus talks about the kingdom
• 34:07
  S4: of heaven being like a treasure in a field, that
• 34:10
  S4: that person recognized the value that treasure and did whatever
• 34:14
  S4: they could to get to it. I think of those,
• 34:17
  S4: those that lovely couple who came here and and built
• 34:20
  S4: up a restaurant they recognized, hey, this place is a
• 34:24
  S4: great treasure, a great opportunity. I got to get there
• 34:26
  S4: and build something there. And I think of the kingdom
• 34:29
  S4: of heaven being infinitely more that this is a place
• 34:32
  S4: where the kingdom of heaven is a place where we
• 34:34
  S4: drop everything we have here to get to there because
• 34:38
  S4: of how beautiful and magnificent it is.
• 34:41
  S2: So I want you to be spiritually entrepreneurial here for
• 34:45
  S2: a second. Innovative. I want you to think, what has
• 34:52
  S2: Christ secured that I've taken for granted? Think about that.
• 35:00
  S2: What freedom has Christ secured for me that I've taken
• 35:03
  S2: for granted? And if I really got sobered up about
• 35:08
  S2: this thing, it would change the way I live today.
• 35:12
  S2: The stuff I'd build, the stuff I'd do, the people
• 35:16
  S2: at reach. Think about that.
• 35:20
  S1: Take your next step with Jesus today. You're listening to
• 35:24
  S1: cast and crew.
• 35:25
  S2: Yeah. I got a question for you here. Uh, it's
• 35:28
  S2: we're coming off July 4th, 250 man Representative Republic, 250 years.
• 35:36
  S2: That's got God's fingerprints on it. Perfect. No. But amazing.
• 35:41
  S2: And the American dream. Oh, man. Amazing. And people are
• 35:46
  S2: taking hold of it. But this great gift that we've
• 35:51
  S2: been given, this freedom in Christ. My question for you
• 35:55
  S2: is this simple. And these phone lines, I'm asking you
• 36:00
  S2: to jam them right now. What freedom has Christ given
• 36:03
  S2: you in Christ? What freedom have you been given? And
• 36:06
  S2: now you're going to take hold of it and use.
• 36:08
  S2: There's something in your life that has been languishing, but
• 36:13
  S2: you realize this freedom is too precious and bang gods
• 36:17
  S2: telling you this is what you got to do now.
• 36:21
  S2: And it's overwhelming you. And you might not have it
• 36:26
  S2: done perfectly, but you are in. Process right now 805,
• 36:31
  S2: five five, 78, 98, 805 557898 Tim from Florida. Thanks
• 36:38
  S2: for calling in. Man. What do you say?
• 36:41
  S7: Yes. Great question. You know, in this country, we have
• 36:45
  S7: the freedom as believers, and also we have the Holy
• 36:49
  S7: Spirit living in us to share God's truth with others.
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  S7: So this morning when I had my quiet time, instead
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  S7: of reading it silently, I stood up on the back
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  S7: porch and I read it out loud. And it was
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  S7: just very empowering. And I think we can do we
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  S7: can do one on one with people we come across daily.
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  S7: Just just offer to pray with them and maybe we'll
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  S7: get to share the gospel with them. And we can
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  S7: also go to university campuses and and do that. We
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  S7: have the freedom if we want to, to preach in
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  S7: the public.
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  S2: Yeah. It's true. Tim, thanks for calling in from looks
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  S2: like Bonita, Florida. Good to have you with us today.
• 37:33
  S2: Here's the thing. Boom crew. Just like my newfound friends,
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  S2: the co-owners of a restaurant where we were vacationing have
• 37:43
  S2: taken they've come from Eastern Europe. They had nothing. And
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  S2: now they've got this blown and going concern. Sometimes we
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  S2: forget that the freedom that Jesus secured for us has
• 37:58
  S2: opened the door for so much. And the simple little
• 38:03
  S2: question I got for you is what? What is the
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  S2: Holy Spirit asking you? This is a very important to
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  S2: answer right now. What is the Holy Spirit inviting you
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  S2: to begin to roll up your sleeves on because of
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  S2: this great freedom that you have in Jesus Christ. How
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  S2: are you going to work out this salvation in such
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  S2: a way that it reflects because it's God who works
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  S2: in you? 805 557898 give me a call right now.
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  S4: You know, for me, I think that the, the thing
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  S4: that the Holy Spirit's convicting me of this morning is
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  S4: that I have the freedom now that I'm in Christ
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  S4: to become more like him. Before I knew him, I
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  S4: was bound to my sin, unable to to look like
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  S4: Jesus because because I didn't know him. But now that
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  S4: I have a relationship with him, I've been given a. Well,
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  S4: I had access to his word. But now that the
• 39:03
  S4: Holy Spirit indwells within me, he gives me new understanding
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  S4: of it every single day. And I don't want to
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  S4: squander the time I have to spend time in His word,
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  S4: growing and understanding in him, and then also growing to
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  S4: look more like him. I have a freedom in that
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  S4: that I don't want to take for granted, and I
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  S4: think it's easy to take it for granted, for myself included.
• 39:25
  S4: And I'm being convicted this morning. Don't take that for granted.
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  S4: Grow closer with me every single day.
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  S8: Yeah. I mean, oh.
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  S2: That's so good. I mean, that's just a big umbrella
• 39:35
  S2: of we've been given freedom to be an apprentice of
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  S2: Jesus Christ.
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  S4: Yes.
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  S2: To live as he lived. Yep. And we got to
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  S2: roll up our sleeves and go. Not got to.
• 39:47
  S4: Right. I get to I don't earn anything through through
• 39:51
  S4: looking more like Jesus. I've already earned it, but I
• 39:54
  S4: get to. And there's freedom in that as well.
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  S8: Yeah. I mean, one of my.
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  S2: Goals when I went away for this week was that
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  S2: my bride would come back refreshed. And you know, it's.
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  S4: A good.
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  S2: Goal. You know what's cool? What's cool about that. And Look,
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  S2: I'm a long ways away from being perfect, but I
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  S2: had a really good week. So my wife told me
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  S2: where I, I my aim was to help her come
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  S2: back so refreshed from a week away. And guess what?
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  S2: When you aim for that, the refreshment that comes to
• 40:29
  S2: you is astounding. Men, men, you aim to let your
• 40:34
  S2: bride get renewed when you get away to get it together.
• 40:37
  S2: Everything changes. Give me a call right now. I'm going to.
• 40:40
  S2: I'm going to take some time, even here, for a
• 40:42
  S2: few minutes to get some calls in here. 805. Five. Five. 78. 98.
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  S2: Give us a jingle right now. This freedom that has
• 40:50
  S2: been secured and this work of God who works in
• 40:54
  S2: you both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
• 40:58
  S2: How's God telling you to work out this salvation with
• 41:01
  S2: fear and trembling? Time to get on it. What's it
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  S2: look like? 805. Five. Five. 78. 98. Tony. First time caller. Trenton, Georgia.
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  S2: What do you say? Man.
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  S9: What do you say?
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  S10: Hey. Good morning. Thanks for the opportunity. I need to
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  S10: share the gospel. I have not been sharing it like
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  S10: I should. I feel like the little song, this little
• 41:19
  S10: Light of mine, where I've been hiding it under the bushel.
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  S2: You know what's funny, Tony, is when we think about
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  S2: sharing the gospel, we got to remember that there are
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  S2: God fearing people like we see with Lydia thief on
• 41:33
  S2: the cross, Cornelius. There are God fearing people that all
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  S2: they need is a fair shot at who Jesus is
• 41:40
  S2: and what he came to do. And they're out there.
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  S2: We're running into him. I'm not saying everyone, but they're
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  S2: out there. Tony. How encouraging is that?
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  S10: Exactly, exactly.
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  S2: Oh, man.
• 41:50
  S10: Well, pray for me. Pray for me.
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  S2: Yeah. Well, father, right now we do pray for Tony
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  S2: and anyone else right now that wants to use their
• 41:57
  S2: freedom in a way that they share that freedom with others. God.
• 42:00
  S2: And just encourage Tony right now. God, strengthen them and
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  S2: fortify this conviction big time. God, thank you for this, brother. Amen.
• 42:09
  S2: And let it be. Edward. Uh, somewhere. Does he live
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  S2: in South Florida? That's not a city. Yes, that's. Yeah.
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  S2: Where are you at, Edward?
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  S11: Well, West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, Florida.
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  S2: West Palm Beach. Good man. All right. Um, what what's
• 42:27
  S2: God telling you to use with this freedom he's given you?
• 42:31
  S11: Uh, right now, we're using the social media like YouTube.
• 42:34
  S11: We're sharing the gospel. Like, uh, why do you believe
• 42:37
  S11: in God? Why we need to believe in God. Because remember,
• 42:40
  S11: they always told us, you need to believe in God.
• 42:42
  S11: But a lot of people don't say why. But now
• 42:44
  S11: that's what we teaching. We have a book that we
• 42:48
  S11: share them with everybody, uh, to YouTube. Also, we have
• 42:51
  S11: a print shop. Whoever come to my shop and I
• 42:53
  S11: have the opportunity to, uh, to talk the good news.
• 42:57
  S11: I do that.
• 42:58
  S2: Awesome.
• 42:59
  S11: We create, we're creating like a website now my kingdom network,
• 43:04
  S11: we want to bring all the business, Christian business owner
• 43:08
  S11: in one place so everybody can find it because we
• 43:11
  S11: have to support the community, you know? Yeah, man, why
• 43:14
  S11: we gotta go somebody else to buy something when we
• 43:16
  S11: have a big community that we can support. And that's
• 43:19
  S11: what we're doing for the Kingdom.
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  S2: Yeah. Way to go, Edward. I love you, man. You're
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  S2: salt of the earth, dude. That's what you are. You're
• 43:26
  S2: salt of the earth. Love it. So think about it.
• 43:30
  S2: This morning. I want you to think about this one
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  S2: long and hard. What is it that God would have
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  S2: you do because of this freedom in Christ that has
• 43:39
  S2: been secured? Think about that. What is it that God
• 43:42
  S2: would have you do because of this great freedom that
• 43:47
  S2: has been secured? It's this. It's this entrepreneurial spirit. It's like, wow,
• 43:53
  S2: he's done this work in me. I'm going to go
• 43:57
  S2: build stuff. I'm going to go share stuff. I'm gonna
• 43:59
  S2: go build up a spouse. It's it's cool. Uh, Juliana Lake, Geneva, Wisconsin.
• 44:06
  S2: Let's get you in here. What do you say, sister?
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  S12: Hi, there. I've been in recovery for, um. I struggle
• 44:13
  S12: with alcohol, so I've been in recovery for about going
• 44:16
  S12: on six years and, uh, through celebrate recovery.
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  S5: Good.
• 44:21
  S12: And the Lord placed on my, I worked through, um,
• 44:23
  S12: I work at a group home here around the area
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  S12: for girls who suffer with trauma and a couple about
• 44:32
  S12: a month or so ago, the Lord placed on my
• 44:34
  S12: heart that, um, I lead the landing there for these
• 44:37
  S12: girls and they really took to it this year. So
• 44:40
  S12: he placed on my heart that I needed to start
• 44:42
  S12: something this summer for, um, girls that struggle with trauma
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  S12: and that they need a recovery because kids have no
• 44:49
  S12: recovery program. So I start that next week and I
• 44:53
  S12: don't know, uh, all of a sudden I just stepped
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  S12: into it. I had volunteers signing up, I had people
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  S12: signing up. So I don't know where he's going to take.
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  S13: Me, but I'm.
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  S12: Stepping into what he tells me.
• 45:04
  S2: Okay, Juliana, here's what's cool and I want to affirm
• 45:07
  S2: you get my. I'm going to go. I'm going to
• 45:09
  S2: be a pastor to you right now. You know what?
• 45:11
  S2: You're proven, sister. You are proving that when you hear
• 45:14
  S2: the spirit of the living God prompt you with something
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  S2: to do because of this great freedom that you've been
• 45:21
  S2: given in Christ, and you begin to roll up your
• 45:24
  S2: sleeves and get after it. One of the great confirmations
• 45:27
  S2: is people saying yes and amen to this vision that
• 45:30
  S2: God's given you. You find people that say, I'll come
• 45:33
  S2: along with that. I'll help out there. It's just a
• 45:37
  S2: beautiful thing and you're living it. Way to go, Juliana.
• 45:42
  S2: It's awesome. It's for freedom that Christ has set us free.
• 45:51
  S2: Be careful not to squander this great freedom that we
• 45:55
  S2: have in Jesus. How will that dictate your life today?
• 45:58
  S2: That's my question for you. How will that direct your
• 46:03
  S2: life today. How will that shape the way you talk
• 46:07
  S2: with people? How will that shape the way you begin
• 46:09
  S2: to open and read the word? Maybe renewed for the
• 46:13
  S2: first time? Let it happen, man. Young Thunder, let's get
• 46:19
  S2: a couple of news hits here, my man.
• 46:25
  S4: At least 25 deaths are being blamed on the extreme
• 46:28
  S4: heat that's been gripping half of the nation. Over 150
• 46:32
  S4: million Americans across the eastern U.S. were subjected to record
• 46:35
  S4: setting heat on the 4th of July, with heat alerts
• 46:38
  S4: issued from the Midwest to the Deep South and the northeast.
• 46:41
  S4: In Washington, D.C., National Guard members were seen rendering aid
• 46:44
  S4: to heat victims attending the America 250 festivities. The extreme
• 46:49
  S4: heat helped create massive thunderstorms later in the evening, causing
• 46:53
  S4: gusty winds, large hail and power outages as well. The
• 46:57
  S4: preliminary hearing is about to begin for the man accused
• 47:00
  S4: of killing the Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. Prosecutors
• 47:05
  S4: say Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica, and his parents are expected
• 47:08
  S4: to attend the week long hearing beginning later today in Utah,
• 47:11
  S4: where they will outline their case against Tyler Robinson. Robinson
• 47:15
  S4: is accused of fatally shooting Kirk at Utah Valley University
• 47:18
  S4: last September. He faces aggravated murder charges and could receive
• 47:21
  S4: the death penalty if convicted. I'm Jonathan, and that is
• 47:25
  S4: your quick update.
• 47:27
  S2: Yeah, quite a day we're having here. We're talking about
• 47:31
  S2: this incredible freedom that we have in Christ Jesus, and
• 47:36
  S2: we can't squander it. But it leads to another question.
• 47:39
  S2: And that is why when he secured such a great freedom,
• 47:44
  S2: why are we sometimes stuck? I want you to do
• 47:48
  S2: this right now. Just focus on an area that you
• 47:51
  S2: feel stuck. You know you've been given freedom, but you
• 47:54
  S2: feel like you're stuck. We got answers coming up here.
• 47:58
  S1: Your spiritual pit stop to keep you going in the race.
• 48:02
  S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
• 48:05
  S2: Carl and crew. Well, I love blaze.
• 48:07
  S14: I love my dog. I love that boy.
• 48:10
  S15: Hey, dude, you.
• 48:11
  S2: Got back from break. And. Oh, man, when I saw him.
• 48:14
  S5: Oh, he had to miss you.
• 48:16
  S2: Yeah we did. We missed each other big time. And early,
• 48:20
  S2: early this morning, I woke him up and said. I
• 48:24
  S2: got to go out and go potty. Dude, he's like, oh, dad,
• 48:27
  S2: can I sleep in? I mean, he's like, almost talking
• 48:30
  S2: to me with those eyes, like, really now? Yeah. And
• 48:36
  S2: then he always had that look on his face, like,
• 48:38
  S2: are glad you woke me up, boy. I was really
• 48:41
  S2: bursting there. Didn't want to get just like a typical teenager.
• 48:44
  S4: Yeah. That's right. Absolutely.
• 48:46
  S2: Uh, I take him out walking and, uh, I took
• 48:50
  S2: him out and he pulled the leash handle right out
• 48:55
  S2: of my hand. And what do you do when that happens?
• 49:00
  S2: And the dog's not really trained? Well, I instantly yell, whoa!
• 49:06
  S2: And he's learned. That means stop. I'm getting ready to
• 49:09
  S2: get harness broken. In about three months. I'm going to
• 49:11
  S2: put a harness on this boy.
• 49:13
  S5: Alrighty. Yeah. Okay.
• 49:14
  S2: About three months. Going to put a harness on him.
• 49:17
  S2: So I say, whoa. And I gingerly just walk up
• 49:21
  S2: like I have still got Ahold of this thing. And
• 49:23
  S2: he doesn't know. He doesn't know. He doesn't know. He's
• 49:26
  S2: standing there and I reach out and grab it. And
• 49:28
  S2: he looked at me like I was free. I was free.
• 49:33
  S16: Why didn't you tell me? I take full.
• 49:35
  S2: Advantage.
• 49:36
  S16: Of that. What? Oh my goodness.
• 49:40
  S2: This whole freedom. We've got it, but we're not using it.
• 49:44
  S2: Why is that? Dan darling, coming up.
• 49:47
  S1: Your shot of hope to help you through the day.
• 49:50
  S1: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
• 49:54
  S2: So two things can be true. At one time. We
• 49:57
  S2: can both be free and live like we're not just
• 50:04
  S2: made reference to my dog blaze and me losing a
• 50:08
  S2: handle on his leash, that was scary. He was totally free,
• 50:12
  S2: but he's been on a leash so much he didn't
• 50:15
  S2: know he was. Thank the Lord because the cars were
• 50:17
  S2: zipping by on the street out front.
• 50:19
  S4: Oh man, I know that.
• 50:20
  S16: So he just.
• 50:20
  S2: Stood there and I just can't walk over to him like, yeah, buddy. Oh,
• 50:27
  S2: when it comes to spiritual freedom, it's not a laughing matter.
• 50:30
  S2: Dan darling with me right now. Daniel, you're a best
• 50:34
  S2: selling author, pastor, leader, podcaster, and you're a real human being.
• 50:40
  S2: We can live in total freedom in Christ and also
• 50:43
  S2: at the same time, live like we still got shackles
• 50:46
  S2: on us, my man.
• 50:48
  S17: That's right, that's absolutely right. And thank God that, you know,
• 50:51
  S17: every day we can go back and and pursue the
• 50:54
  S17: freedom that Christ has given us big time.
• 50:57
  S2: You know, I'm going to look at a passage here.
• 50:59
  S2: For freedom, Christ has set us free. Stand firm therefore,
• 51:04
  S2: and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
• 51:08
  S2: That's Galatians five one. And the context here is there
• 51:12
  S2: was a circumcision group. They had their knives out for
• 51:15
  S2: the men. And what it boils down to is they
• 51:19
  S2: were in enslaving them to a external outward appearance of
• 51:27
  S2: righteousness that had nothing to do with real righteousness. Those
• 51:31
  S2: are things that we can get caught in today, aren't they, Daniel?
• 51:35
  S17: They can be. You know, um, I think it's, it's
• 51:38
  S17: about legalism and, uh, versus, um, yes, you know, really
• 51:43
  S17: the gospel. And I think we, we confuse this. Carl.
• 51:47
  S17: Sometimes people think if you want to obey Christ and
• 51:50
  S17: follow him with your life. Jesus said, if you love me,
• 51:53
  S17: keep my commandments. That that that's legalism, that anytime you
• 51:59
  S17: apply the scripture and say, this is not something a
• 52:01
  S17: Christian should do, or this is something a Christian should do,
• 52:03
  S17: that's legalism. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking
• 52:05
  S17: about here is sort of extra rules on top of things. It's,
• 52:10
  S17: it's sort of this idea of, of self-righteousness, of saying,
• 52:13
  S17: I am better than you because I do these things
• 52:15
  S17: and you don't. Do you know, my righteousness is because
• 52:18
  S17: of my effort, not not the grace of Christ.
• 52:21
  S2: Yeah. You're so spot on. And Dan, this is this
• 52:25
  S2: is an ongoing moving target. And I, I just, let's
• 52:28
  S2: just kick this around a little bit because I think
• 52:31
  S2: one of the great dangers here, people that don't know
• 52:35
  S2: they're stuck with something oftentimes don't realize what kind of
• 52:44
  S2: freedom Christ really wants to give them. So, I mean, there's,
• 52:48
  S2: there's kind of a code in the church. And you're right, Dan,
• 52:52
  S2: because some of these things that we're were called to do.
• 52:56
  S2: Those acts of obedience are for our good and for
• 53:00
  S2: the betterment of the whole. But we can codify things
• 53:04
  S2: that have nothing to do with Scripture. And let's just
• 53:08
  S2: take a big one. And that is that going to
• 53:11
  S2: church is paramount. Now, this is what I'd say it is,
• 53:16
  S2: but there's something more important than that. And that is
• 53:19
  S2: being the church. And oftentimes we can get into these
• 53:23
  S2: cycles of doing things without the life and vitality of
• 53:28
  S2: what Jesus said they should be done in. What do
• 53:31
  S2: you say to that?
• 53:33
  S17: Yeah. I mean, I think Scripture is pretty clear that, um,
• 53:38
  S17: God has wired us for community, and gathering on Sundays
• 53:42
  S17: is essential for our spiritual lives. You know, being a
• 53:47
  S17: lone Ranger Christian is not something you see in the
• 53:49
  S17: New Testament, but at the same time, merely going to
• 53:53
  S17: church is not a is not the end of our Christianity, right?
• 53:57
  S17: It's it's one of the means that God provides for us. Uh,
• 54:01
  S17: but you can go to church, you can fill a pew.
• 54:03
  S17: And we're grateful that you do, but, um, you can
• 54:06
  S17: do that and still not have a personal relationship with
• 54:09
  S17: Christ and not have a deep and vibrant walk with,
• 54:11
  S17: with him. And, and sometimes we, you know, the external
• 54:16
  S17: things that we do, we can sometimes look and say, look,
• 54:18
  S17: I'm good because I do these things. And it masks
• 54:21
  S17: other other issues that Christ wants to be dealing with
• 54:24
  S17: in our lives.
• 54:25
  S2: You know, for me, um, I shared this a couple
• 54:28
  S2: of weeks ago. I actually was so culture ized as
• 54:34
  S2: a Christian, I knew when to stand up, when to
• 54:36
  S2: sit down, when to say amen. I knew the songs
• 54:39
  S2: to sing. I knew all this stuff that I didn't
• 54:43
  S2: know what I didn't know, and that was that I
• 54:46
  S2: wasn't truly born again. And I think, uh, when, When
• 54:52
  S2: Jesus saved me and radically released me from being a
• 54:56
  S2: slave to my sin, I now now going to church fellowship.
• 55:03
  S2: Everything changed. How do we know the difference between a
• 55:09
  S2: discipline that is life giving versus a discipline that is
• 55:15
  S2: just a 2000 year old call to circumcision just to
• 55:20
  S2: make it look good?
• 55:21
  S17: That's a that's a great question. I think a discipline
• 55:24
  S17: that's life giving, you know, says in Galatians, the fruit
• 55:29
  S17: of the spirit is love, joy, peace, gentleness, goodness, faith. Um,
• 55:33
  S17: we will know that it will be evident that we've
• 55:36
  S17: been with Christ. If those things are evident in our lives,
• 55:39
  S17: like people see us and there's joy and there's peace,
• 55:44
  S17: that's the fruit that that tells us that the discipline
• 55:46
  S17: of something like going to church is producing that fruit
• 55:49
  S17: versus a kind of self-righteousness where, um, if our relationships
• 55:54
  S17: with everyone are fraught, if we constantly are looking our
• 55:57
  S17: nose down on everybody else because they're not as good
• 55:59
  S17: as we are, we're like the elder brother who's like,
• 56:02
  S17: you know, look at me, I've been doing this and
• 56:04
  S17: how come there's grace extended here and not toward me? And,
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  S17: and I think one of the things you're hitting on
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  S17: this is this was the situation with the circumcision in, uh,
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  S17: the New Testament that we are elevating to primary things
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  S17: that are preferential or, or, um, not that important, right?
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  S17: There are some core things that Christians have to believe
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  S17: and Christian ways that Christians follow Jesus. But then there
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  S17: are preferential things that you and I, Carl, might disagree on, right? Yeah.
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  S17: You know, you, you might like this and I might
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  S17: like this. And we're both faithful Christians. But when we
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  S17: raise those to the level of. If you don't do
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  S17: it just like me, then, um, you're not a real
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  S17: spiritual Christian. And I think there's a danger of that today, Carl,
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  S17: particularly with the internet to say, well, you know, you you, um,
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  S17: you know, do this with your kids in terms of
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  S17: their education. And I do this, therefore I'm more righteous
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  S17: than you and you have good reasons for doing that or,
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  S17: or some other preferential tertiary issue that you raise to
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  S17: that level. And you start to feel like, I am
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  S17: the good ones. We are the good ones. We are
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  S17: the righteous ones. Everyone else has got it wrong. Um,
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  S17: that's really, uh, not spirit filled Christianity.
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  S2: How do we hold? And I don't normally go here,
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  S2: but I'm going to go here. How do we hold
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  S2: on to political planks without letting them be the evidence
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  S2: of a so-called righteousness? When the real evidence is not
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  S2: holding on to a plank, even if it be righteous,
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  S2: but holding on to Jesus, how do we do that.
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  S17: Man, that's a great question, because you and I both
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  S17: urge people to get involved and to, you know, if
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  S17: we love our neighbor as ourselves, we should try to,
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  S17: you know, have a voice in the policy that affects
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  S17: our neighbors flourishing. We care about righteousness in the nation.
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  S17: But man, we can easily get to a place where
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  S17: we think, well, I'm voting right. I'm speaking out. I'm
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  S17: right on the issues. Therefore, I must be right with God.
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  S17: And look, you can you can vote appropriately. You can
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  S17: speak out on on things and against the wrong things
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  S17: and for the right things. You can be doing all that.
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  S17: And that could be a fig leaf for all the
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  S17: stuff inside that we're not dealing with. Right? And ultimately,
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  S17: the end of the day, I mean, all that stuff
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  S17: is important, but what's most important is our relationship with God.
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  S17: And what we can do, Carl, is we can start
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  S17: to be pharisaical about this and start to say, well,
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  S17: the way that you do it or the way that
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  S17: I do it is better than the way that you
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  S17: do it or you're not, you know, posting this on
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  S17: Facebook or social media the way I'm doing it. Therefore,
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  S17: you must not be courageous. You must not be a
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  S17: real Christian or you don't have this position on this
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  S17: specific political issue. You must not be a real Christian.
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  S17: Instead of saying, wait a minute, you know what makes
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  S17: me a Christian is that I'm a sinner saved by grace. Yes.
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  S17: And even though I, I want to speak out on things,
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  S17: I really do. We really should speak on things. I
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  S17: don't want to do it from a place of self-righteousness,
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  S17: from a place of love. Um, knowing that, you know, I,
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  S17: you know, I am just one step away from that
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  S17: person that, uh, I might think is, is going through
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  S17: a hard time or whatever, like that, that at the
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  S17: end of the day, what will, what will make the
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  S17: nation more righteous is people following Jesus and revival and
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  S17: people going to church and, and like ultimately politics is useful,
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  S17: but it's not ultimate. And we can't let it divide
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  S17: us from our friends and our neighbors. We can't let it,
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  S17: let it make us self righteousness if, if we're not careful, activism, politics,
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  S17: all this stuff, which is good, It. It can produce
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  S17: a kind of very arrogant self-righteousness that separates us from
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  S17: other Christians.
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  S2: Totally and in the ability to reach the world that
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  S2: we claim to defend.
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  S17: That's exactly.
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  S2: Right.
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  S17: Yeah. That's right. We can't hate our mission field, can't we?
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  S17: We have to love our mission field.
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  S2: I love this discussion. You know, it goes on here.
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  S2: This is very interesting. Look, Paul says in verse two
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  S2: after he's talked about, if you got this freedom in Christ,
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  S2: don't be submitted to this yoke of slavery. So the
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  S2: whole premise today is we can be totally free in
• 1:00:16
  S2: Christ and stuck. And sometimes religiosity gets us stuck. And
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  S2: he goes on to say, look, I, Paul, say to
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  S2: you that if you accept circumcision now, what he's talking
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  S2: about here, he's not talking about, oh, if you've been circumcised,
• 1:00:28
  S2: you've done something wrong. He's saying, people were saying this
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  S2: act of circumcision was more important than this relationship with God.
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  S2: He says Christ will be of no advantage to you.
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  S2: So the great danger here is if we measure our
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  S2: spirituality by all these external things. We could well be
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  S2: a person that Jesus says, I don't know. You depart
• 1:00:55
  S2: from me. That's a scary proposition, Daniel.
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  S17: Yeah, it really is. I mean, I think what he's
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  S17: saying is you can you can meet all these external
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  S17: things and not have the inward work of the heart.
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  S17: And man, if you've been a Christian for a long time,
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  S17: like I have, like you have, we know that we
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  S17: can play that game at times.
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  S2: Where believe.
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  S17: It, I'm checking all the boxes and look, these are
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  S17: good boxes. We're not saying not to check them. Right.
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  S17: Good family, good good church. You know, doing all these
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  S17: things faithful here and there. But we're not tending to
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  S17: our heart. We don't have a real strong, vibrant relationship
• 1:01:30
  S17: with Christ. We're not coming to him in repentance and prayer,
• 1:01:34
  S17: and he's not changing our lives. And again, I think
• 1:01:36
  S17: Paul gives us that metric. Are you are you showing
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  S17: the fruit of the spirit in your life? Yes, it's
• 1:01:42
  S17: pretty easy, right?
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  S2: The flesh.
• 1:01:44
  S17: Right? If you. It's pretty easy, right? If you plant corn.
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  S17: Corn is going to grow. So if something growing is
• 1:01:49
  S17: not what you. Is are not those things, then we're
• 1:01:52
  S17: not planting things in our lives, right? So if, if love, joy,
• 1:01:55
  S17: peace and all that stuff is not growing, then there's
• 1:01:57
  S17: something wrong.
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  S2: Yeah, beautiful. And we've probably made secondary tertiary things primary.
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  S2: And therein lies the problem. Dan darling. Yep. He's got
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