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What's scary about population collapse? | Maintaining Frame 98 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to maintaining frame number ninety eight. What's scary about population
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  collapse? I'm your host, Alison, and with me is the very intrepid
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  and determined Brian, who's who's still with us and still attempting to stay in
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  the game despite having a bit of an a laryngeal technical difficulty ongoing. Yeah,
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  all right, yeah, so I have not given up. I'm going
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  to keep going. No, he's going to keep he's going to keep going.
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  He's going to make sure that we get these streams out. But I
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  will attempt to talk twice as much so that you don't think it's necessary.
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  No, it is just an eventuality. It's not necessary, you know.
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  And now that you have a now that you have a handicap, I'm going
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  to take advantage, do uh and do even more of the talking. All
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  right, So this is a video that has was requested by the Great Indoors
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  in exchange for essentially supporting the fundraiser, which you know, if you guys
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  want to do that, just message me on discord if you're part of the
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  discord and we can we can arrange something and h yeah, this is tell
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  me about this this individual who is being interviewed here, Brian because Louise Perry,
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  so I kind of had like she's basically been making the rounds recently,
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  making a lot of making a lot of appearances talking about her book, but
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  also like the her strong feelings about the the consequences of the sexual revolution.
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  Also, she doesn't call it the second wave feminist movement. Maybe she thinks
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  they're separate things. I'm not sure. I think they were intertwined, but
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  she is. She used to be a feminist. I have a little bit
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  of our early life thing. So Louise Perry graduated from University of London's Sas
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  with a bachelor's degree in anthropology, reported to have included women's studies. At
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  this time, she is said to have conformed with the views of her peers
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  that you know, basically she was a sex positive feminist, believe that porn
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  is great, BDSM is fun, sex work is real work, etc.
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  However, her views changed after university and she wrote a book called The Case
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  Against Sexual Revolution that was published in twenty twenty two. And she's been making
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  the rounds, appearing on The Lotus Eaters and Chris Williamson's Modern Wisdom and now
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  today on triggered Nometry. I think she may have been on there before as
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  well. And I mean, yeah, that's basically short version of it.
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  She's she's okay, Like there's something that she says that I like, I
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  think that she's afraid to sort of name you know, name names. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I mean it's a normal thing. But but I mean she
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  is like identifying the issues. And I watched this video. I did watch
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  the whole thing, and I'm glad it's broken up into sections. And I
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  will say that it was a bit of a roller coaster because there were things
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  that I was like, yes, I agree with that. I think that's
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  solid, and then there were things that made me want to, like,
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  you know, pull my hair out, but not in a shocking way.
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  Like it's again where it's frustrating because everybody needs a little bit more time and
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  they'll get there, you know. Yeah, so let her cook. Yeah,
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  yeah, right exactly. But yeah, and I think the Triggerometry guys
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  honestly were more frustrating than she was because they really wanted to like figure out
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  how to blame men some more, you know. So I mean I'm not
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  saying we men shouldn't, you know, take the blame for something. But
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  it's kind of retarded that we're still doing that because it's like, you know,
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  here's a here's an algebraic formula X plus two equals why And now it's
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  like, all I want to do is solve for why. You know,
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  that's what they're doing. It's like, we can't solve the problem that way.
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  So yeah, exactly, I mean it's if indeed women have responsibility,
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  you can't get anywhere by continuing to blame men. This is yeah, simple
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  factor. And the thing is that it's really difficult for men to invent what
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  women are going to select from them. Does that make sense? Like,
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  you know they and it's it's also there's this huge elephant in the room that
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  people don't want to acknowledge, and that is that women place significant selection pressure
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  on men. Now, because we are more of a pair bonding species,
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  there's also a selection pressure that's placed on women. But for the most part,
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  the evolutionary selective pressure is placed on women on men, by women on
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  men. Okay, and and and that's just the simple way of putting it.
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  You know, why does the peacock have such an elaborate tale Because it's
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  been selected for by the p hen and so it's it's it. And this
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  is something that we don't we seem to really struggle with in our society,
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  that women have the power of selection. They select the men who end up
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  having children, and over time that exerts a significant force social force and evolutionary
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  force if you step back far enough, it exerts a significant evolutionary force.
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  When we're dealing with a situation that the problem is what women are selecting for
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  in men is counterproductive to a functioning society, then it is extremely difficult for
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  men to decide what women are going to select for in them. See what
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  I'm saying, Like, it's it's I don't think that there is a society
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  in which men have made that. And part of the reason why is because,
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  I mean, there's a certain aspect of male psychology that they want to
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  be held to a standard. And if they're inventing the standard that they're held
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  to, it feels really fake. It's like that whole guy smiley self affirmation
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  stuff. I'm awesome because I have lived up to the standard that I've invented
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  for myself, and it feels fake, like someone was saying in the comments,
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  I think it was quicksilver tongue. Getting approval from yourself or getting approval
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  from someone else is like finding, you know, twenty bucks on the ground.
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  Getting approval from yourself is like finding out your money is counterfeit in your
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  wallet. So it's just it's just it doesn't have the same kind of emotional
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  worse to it. So and so that's that's sort of like a little bit
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  of my spiel. It's why we seem to really struggle with some a basic
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  fact of biology, which is the female tends to put selective pressure on the
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  male, and human beings are no less part of biology when it comes to
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  that. And that not saying that that isn't an ought to be, I'm
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  just saying it's an is. Yeah, And if we if we deny it,
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  then we get into these endless kind of problems with assigning blame because if
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  we if we essentially say, well, it's men who construct all of society
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  and all of the social pressures and and this this this selective pressure that women
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  place on men is purely socialized, then again it just goes back to,
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  well, men have decided to put this pressure on them from women arbitrarily,
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  and well, what do we do then I guess men have to stop doing
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  that. Yeah, could It seems like that's gonna be that's gonna be difficult,
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  that's yeah. Yeah, guys, just just stop making women put selective
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  pressure on you, you know, stop making women not choose you. To
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  stop that, that's all you need to do. Just just just figure out
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  how to you know, just just stop doing that. Yeah. So anyway,
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  let's uh, let's get bit. So let's get into it first,
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  and one, tell you what sections you want to do the things, and
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  I'll tell you what sections there are and you can decide which one, you
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  know, piece your interest the most. Oh oh, you're going to present
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  slash just the tip. All right, let's get into it. Let's get
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  all right in. So Louise Perry on this interview, by the ways,
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  is quite pregnant, so she is promoting natalism. And let's see, there
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  is a section called the Signal of Luxury Beliefs, which is where I think
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  it sort of reflects what we have talked about. How you know, we
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  live in this very comfortable society and so these we live in a time of
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  beliefs that are you know, only possible when everything is doing so well,
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  and it actually kind of creates a problem. But here's one that I thought
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  was interesting. It's called it's called why Society Shame's single mothers, which just
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  raises my eyebrows a lot. So do you want to go with that one?
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  Okay, So let me just take a look at this, And there's
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  society's view of unfaithful men? Is monogamy best for women? Are people having
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  less sex? The issues coming from medication, So they're talking about the pill
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  and ssriyes, and the effects of that. Why natalism is so controversial?
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  Yeah it is. It's considered right wing. Okay, And I said,
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  basically, we'd cover the first half because there's a lot. Yeah, okay,
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  let me think let's or we can just go to a relationship between the
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  sexes as one of the first ones I want to go. Let's let's do
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  this in a little reverse order, just to shake it up. Let's go
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  to why is natalism so controversial? And then we'll get back into the Yeah.
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  Let's let's all right. Let's let's say there we're going to place some
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  of that. Let me switch scenes here so that you guys can see what
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  we're looking at, and here we go. This is fascinating to me because
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  if you look into it for about three seconds, you instantly get like you
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  can be showing one graph and you suddenly like get everything right. They're talking
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  about the replacement rates and the birth rates. So it's pretty you know,
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  it's pretty bad. Yeah, you know that thing that when I was on
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  Wick they told me wasn't happening, and that I was like blowing out a
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  proportion. It's not a big deal. Yeah, that thing. Well,
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  it's not even the replacement rate. Well, if you mean by replacement of
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  people actually having children to replace themselves, yeah, because they'll get into Oh
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  this is the great No, it isn't the great replacement. No. I
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  mean I mean people in a given country having children, like Japanese people making
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  Japanese babies, not a bunch of people who are not Japanese moving into Japan.
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  Because but that doesn't solve the problem long No. In fact, it
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  actually just makes Japan disappear. I mean you'll still have people, but you
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  won't have Japan anymore, Okay. I mean even if you bring in people
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  from I believe that they're going for Nigerians to go into Japan. When the
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  Nigerians get into Japan, they become naturalized in some cases and for the most
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  part, and they have the same problem within a couple generations that they stop
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  having children. So even when you import people, you're not even gonna end
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  up replacing anyone. Like this is what's happening. This is what you see.
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  People are going to these other countries, so they're importing immigrants, but
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  the immigrants stop having kids. So I mean it's if you're worried about the
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  immigrants replacing the native populations, that actually probably won't happen because as soon as
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  they naturalize any degree, they stop having kids. So it's just you're gonna
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  have to keep importing immigrants, and they naturalize, they stop having kids.
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  They're not gonna be replacing anyone because they have the same they're they're adopting the
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  same problem that we have. So it's ultimately immigration is no solution. I
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  mean, it's in the short term it might buoy up your economy, but
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  in the long term you're just gonna have to keep bringing more people in.
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  And what happens is that you what seems to be happening is that culturally it
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  gets to be more and more difference on each successive way of immigration, and
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  then you also end up bringing in people from countries that don't agree and or
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  have inherent conflicts with between those two countries, and they bring those those conflicts
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  in. So's it's destabilizing, it's destructive, and it's ultimately not solving the
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  problem because the problem is in some aspect of Western culture, and it's you
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  know, as soon as the immigrants come in and they naturalize, they have
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  the same problem, so they're not actually solving it. Immigration isn't solving it.
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  And I don't think that immigration is actually going to lead to the replacement
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  of native populations because, like I said, as soon as the new people
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  come into the country, they naturalize to the degree where they stop having children.
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  So we need to solve this because there is no solution, because that's
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  what the people on Wick were say. The men on Wick, we're saying,
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  oh, we'll just we'll we'll just bring people in. And then when
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  I said, but that doesn't solve it because they naturalize and then have the
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  same problem of not having children. They either iron I don't know if they
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  were ironically suggesting it, but they said, well, you know, we'll
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  just turn Africa into a breeding colony. Can you remember that? Yeah,
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  I think they were joking, but I mean it's because they didn't really want
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  to look at this question seriously and so instead they were like, well,
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  you know, we'll just do that. But my point is it doesn't really
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  contradict yours, is that it's using Japan as an example. Not only are
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  you not solving the problem by bringing in people from another country, because they
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  also are going to end up adapting, you know, a lot of that
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  mentality, and they're gonna stop reproducing as well, or at least they're gonna
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  stagnate in the same way. But you're also going to erase what is Japan,
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  which is the culture and the people. And on top of that,
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  you know, of the ones that do adopt that that national identity, they
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  will also be you know, disappear, and so what will be left is
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  the people who did not naturalize that decided to keep having babies. So you're
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  still gonna change the country completely. And I use Japan as an example because
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  when I mean, I didn't bring it up with the Whig people because of
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  my voice but I think that if I did it that way, it would
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  be harder for them to make a defense of then if I said the United
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  States, because it's okay to say that about the United States, but I
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  can't say that about some you know, foreign country that has a rich culture
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  that everyone loves. And I'm like, well, what if it disappeared?
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  Like what if Italy was just gone? You know, would you miss it?
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  So destroying the Like the other thing is that in this equation when they
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  talk about the replacement theory, and like I said, I think that what
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  we're talking about is more much more nuanced than that, But you're also destroying
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  the places that you're importing from. Especially Yeah, you are solve the problem.
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  Yeah it's no, it's double damage and joking. But although honestly,
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  if they don't engage with the concept, then how is it joking or just
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  like right, no, I don't If you import from Africa, like you're
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  taking the best from that culture, You're bringing them in and they stop breeding,
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  and then what happens to Africa? Right, you know? And and
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  what in what happens? Yeah, it goes both ways. It's very destructive
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  both ways. You know that there isn't the the people who could provide the
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  greatest solutions for their cultures in Africa aren't there or in certain areas of Africa,
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  and you know, and and they aren't continuing their culture. They're just
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  coming here and you know, losing their culture. We're losing. It's it's
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  it's not it's not a solution. It's not a long term solution because it
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  doesn't deal with the problem of people breeding. And ultimately, if it's all
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  across the world, which is what's happening, I mean, look at the
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  numbers from I think it's the Sudan like or uh, the Democrat the Democratic
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  Republican, Yeah, those those Africa nations. If you look at the statistics
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  on births over the last few years, in the last few years, for
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  using the Democratic Republic of Congo, they've gone from over six babies per two
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  six and that's only in like three years, so they've gone from like six
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  point twenty five to six, so they're going down two and it's increasing.
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  So we're already below replacement in a lot of countries around the world, and
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  even the countries that are above replacement are headed down. So this is an
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  issue all around the world. So even bringing in people is not going to
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  solve that. What happens when the d d RC is below replacement. You
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  can't be bringing babies from Africa if the African people are no longer having babies
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  too, like they they and once they get even lower, once they get
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  below like four babies per woman, they can no longer send immigrants, like
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  they can no longer shore up other cultures flagging population. I mean they need
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  to actually keep What I'm getting at is they need to actually keep more than
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  a replacement, right, because then they need to have children to send to
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  other countries so that they can keep a replacement. Right. It's ridicus,
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  It's something that we need to solve, and it's just simply women are not
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  the average woman is not attracted to the average man in the system, in
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  the like the modern economic system. Yeah, and that is a problem that
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  is not something you can put on men, because men don't choose the selective
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  pressure that women put on them. Okay, they just don't. So this
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  is a situation like how do we get to the plates where the average woman
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  is attracted to the average man again and they want to have children? Like,
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  how do we get there? What do we need to do right otherwise
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  we're basically this is this is gonna be the end of the human race.
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  And for those of you who are like, oh you live long, die
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  out, well, the unraveling of our technology and our civilization at this point
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  that's going to be a species like an earthwide holocaust. Like we can't afford
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  that at this point. We're we're we're for the stars or bust at this
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  point. But it so we can't. We cannot just be like, ah,
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  you know, let's just let's just let the human race die out.
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  The Earth is now basically a cyborg and we constitute part of their side at
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  cyborg parts, and if you get rid of them, well, I mean,
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  it will probably survive in the long term, like you know, it
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  survived the ash droid impact, but we're going to be looking at some serious
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  environmental degradation or deterar destruction and a lot of loss of species. So you
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  know, it's not so don't be so bluse about Live long, die out.
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  Yeah, that's don't be so bluse about that. It doesn't bill have
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  significant consequences. Well, I don't know, we should watch the video,
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  so let's get into this talk matches, but not just in western countries.
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  It's just way below replacement. Uh. And you know, Francis was we
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  were having lunch and he was talking about the fact that teachers are getting fired
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  from schools now because there's not enough kids and restructuring. Yeah. Yeah,
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  particularly in central London there's schools closing down. So you've got that going on.
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  And yet whenever I see any politician who who's like, maybe like Miriam
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  Kate, you know, whatever you think about the rest of her politics or
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  whatever, she just says we need we need to talk about babies, and
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  suddenly, like the swarm of rage descends upon them. The same with Look,
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  I don't know much about Victor Orban. I read bad things about him
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  in the papers. Okay, let's assume that they're all true. But still
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  like, why why is this such a like a controversial subject to say,
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  hey, we were not having enough children and maybe we should think about ways
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  of encouraging peoples because blaming moment. Yeah, I mean I think so,
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  I think, uh it is it is like, well, I think the
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  ants like when when he says that this woman said, hey, we should
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  probably start having babies, and he said there was a wave of rage.
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  He didn't get specific, but I'm willing to bet it was mostly, if
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  not entirely, women that did it or the men who you know simp to
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  them, kind of like when we were talking about AI girlfriends and I said,
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  well, you know, men would probably rather have a real woman,
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  and they were like, no, no, women are free now and they
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  can choose, and you know, they they're just they just have good they
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  just have standards, and men aren't meeting those standards. You know. It
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  was like this whole please don't please, don't do there. It's too sensitive,
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  and I'm just like, well, you know, and I think that's
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  what happened here too. It is verboten to bring this up. So there
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  was something there is at Okay, there's a couple things. First of all,
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  a commentator said, you should really lean into the Godfather voice. Oh
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  okay, Well, I don't know. I can't. The sound of my
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  own voice is aggravating. I don't know. It's just yeah, like I'm
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  trying to just talk low like this. You're just you come to me on
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  the day of my daughter's wedding. I'm going to give you an offer you
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  can refuse. The other thing is I wanted to, like the wicks panels
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  really interesting because I got the feeling like a lot of the a lot of
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  the impetus behind that is if if women aren't held to a standard, then
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  men aren't either, so that we can just live a life of pure indulgence,
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  you know, as the beautiful people in in in the mouse utopia.
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  And so the the idea that we we don't we don't actually look at the
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  fact that men are selected for by women, So women establish this standard we
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  don't actually look at. That means that for the most part, men don't
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  have to uphold or live up to a standard. And I think that that
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  might be attractive to certain types of men. I don't want to and you
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  know, and I can get it, like society has asked so much of
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  men that maybe they deserve a vacation just walk off, you know, and
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  just have you know. However, I don't think the type of guy who
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  is interested in that kind of or having that or recognizing that as a break
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  for men really really is interested in I think that they tend to be very
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  female focused for whatever reason, if that makes sense. Yeah, Like they're
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  they're like, oh, you can't put any pressure on women. You can't
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  blame women. You can't put women any kind of expectations on women. You
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  know that any kind of external standard that you hold women up to is misogyny,
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  dread, misogyny, all of that, et cetera, et cetera,
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  et cetera. And I just find that really interesting that there's that that conflation.
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  Like these guys who seem to want to not be held to a standard
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  also are very ginocentric in a way, and they use that yeah, yeah,
• 27:04
  well they want to hold they want to hold o their meant to standards
• 27:08
  though there's no there's They have all the courage in the world when it comes
• 27:12
  to that, when it comes to like saying we need any men to step
• 27:17
  up, is you know, it's so stunning and brave, and it's it's
• 27:22
  stunning and radical, very radical. Albert Nita Retro gave us two dollars Canadian
• 27:26
  and said, you sound a little better today, Brian. I can't really
• 27:30
  tell. It's like every morning I get up and I talk to Jojo because
• 27:33
  he's the only guy that's up with me, and I hear myself and I,
• 27:37
  oh, I think I'm getting better, and then like within an hour,
• 27:41
  I sound like this again, So I don't know. Anyway, let's
• 27:45
  place some more of this to reproduce the society in which they live. Why
• 27:49
  do people think it's inherently fascist? Yeah, I mean it's worth saying that.
• 27:55
  Basically every it's it's because they're anti human. Ultimately, there seem to
• 28:02
  be a push for anti natalism and breaking fighting men and women since before the
• 28:10
  nineteen sixties, but it really picked up steam around that time, and I
• 28:14
  don't think it's slowing down. And they will use any narrative to promote it.
• 28:18
  I mean they'll say, you know, if you have kids, it's
• 28:21
  bad for the environment. Why would you want to bring up children in this
• 28:22
  crazy world? And they'll make the world crazy, and then they'll tell you
• 28:27
  shouldn't have kids in it. I mean, there is a significant and overt
• 28:33
  push to keep men and women apart from each other, suspicious of each other,
• 28:40
  hating each other, fighting with each other, and not making babies with
• 28:42
  each other in competition with each other. It's in every aspect and in many
• 28:48
  ways, women embrace that. They like the idea of like Beeing and Girl
• 28:52
  Boss. It appeals to them. There is not really an opposite or a
• 28:56
  mirror of that for men that men find appealing enough to they go along with
• 29:02
  it. So I mean, Lori Penn. I mean there's a Louise Perry.
• 29:06
  Sorry, and I'm gonna get her name wrong. She does say that
• 29:10
  she thinks this is anti human at the end of the day, but that's
• 29:15
  later on in this show. This is like towards the end that she says
• 29:17
  that country cares about this. Up until five minutes ago, there used to
• 29:21
  be this line in Australia encouraging people to have more children. That it was
• 29:26
  you have one form and one for dad and one for Australia encouraging people to
• 29:29
  have three kids. So it's it's it's definitely not. I mean, it's
• 29:32
  also the case like Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, and so one encourages high
• 29:36
  fertility. That doesn't mean that that certain group. Yeah, that doesn't mean
• 29:42
  that natalism is unique to authoritone regimes by any means. It's basically, well,
• 29:48
  it's super obvious that that is not Like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union
• 29:53
  wanted babies because they needed soldiers, that's you know, and they probably wanted
• 30:00
  to be a majority. But that doesn't have anything to do with like human
• 30:04
  beings existing is not. It should not be political, but again, the
• 30:11
  feminist left makes it political for whatever reason. So Nerd Tard, he's on
• 30:19
  our our, our vertical, so he's not like a normal higher nerds tard.
• 30:25
  I'm only high letting your comment because I saw that you're on the shorts
• 30:29
  version of this show, and he says, why don't you have Rachel Wilson
• 30:33
  on. I've I've emailed her many times. I was talking to her last
• 30:37
  year. I talked about her book. She was willing to come on.
• 30:42
  She hasn't replied to me in a while. Maybe she's gotten really busy.
• 30:47
  I've I sent her an email the other day. Actually that was kind of
• 30:49
  a poke, like, hey, you know, if you want to come
• 30:52
  on, but I haven't heard from her, so thank you for asking.
• 30:56
  I know who she is. I've read her book, but yeah, I
• 31:00
  haven't heard from her. So yeah, it's ultimately up to the individual in
• 31:04
  question if they want to respond. Yeah. Yeah, we reach out to
• 31:08
  people all the time and sometimes they get back to us. Usually what happens
• 31:15
  is though they come on the show and then they blow up after and then
• 31:18
  we never hear from them again. Like Blair White and you know Sidney Watson
• 31:25
  and Lauren Chan when she was called roaming millennial like these. You know,
• 31:29
  there's lots of people who have made an appearance and then they just they just
• 31:33
  go oh, Aid and Paladin. You know, I discovered her winter channel
• 31:36
  is kind of small. But she hasn't disappeared. No, I mean I
• 31:41
  haven't, yeah, as I haven't talked to her in a bit. But
• 31:42
  but I'm just saying that's the way that it tends to go. So if
• 31:45
  you want the Midas touch, make an appearance on any Batman and we'll send
• 31:52
  you through the stratosphere and wave from you know, the planets, Yeah,
• 31:57
  from the depths. I have a great time. All right. Anyway,
• 32:02
  let's let's keep going in normal position for governments up until very recently, and
• 32:10
  yeah, I mean people, I mean because not least like the geopolitical implications
• 32:15
  are just so blindingly obvious. Yes, like if you if your if your
• 32:19
  country has a shrinking population, you don't have enough young men to form an
• 32:23
  army, obviously you're incredibly vulnerable. I mean this just seems sort of Oh
• 32:29
  I remember this, there was a comment. Yeah, the comment, Oh,
• 32:34
  the comment was, well, look at the somebody said, well,
• 32:36
  look, yeah, she's right, look at the what happened with the Ukraine.
• 32:38
  And then another person was like, well, I think it was Russia.
• 32:40
  That was the like, uh, the way that they put it was
• 32:47
  Russia. No, if you solved Russia's militarism, and I'm like, yes,
• 32:55
  but how are you going to do that? If you have an aggressive
• 33:00
  state, what are you going to do? Like it's the same thing that
• 33:04
  they have with criminals. It's like, well, what women wouldn't have to
• 33:07
  be afraid of men if you just got where you know, criminal men just
• 33:12
  chose. And it's like what but criminal men are not going to choose that,
• 33:15
  Yeah, they're not. Like maybe at some point you could intervene in
• 33:20
  the process of creating a criminal man, after you know, you identify maybe
• 33:24
  genetic factors related to impulse control and being abused, like you might might be
• 33:30
  able to develop therapies to intervene at some point, but they're still going to
• 33:36
  make the choices that they make, okay, and we have no control over
• 33:40
  that. It's like NATO doesn't have any control over Russia's decisions. Yeah,
• 33:47
  ultimately, well maybe maybe Russia. I mean I don't know, because we
• 33:52
  don't know what go ahead, go ahead, Let's not get into the weeds
• 33:57
  on it. I'm just using it as an example of there is there are
• 34:00
  states that are aggressive, and the states that are not aggressive have no control
• 34:07
  over the aggressive states except having an army. Yeah. Oh yeah, So
• 34:14
  we have no control over criminals except having a justice system and police. Right,
• 34:21
  it's unless you want to go in and stop single women from having children,
• 34:25
  you know, that's right. Well, what I was going to add
• 34:30
  to that is not I don't know anything about Russia's like, you know,
• 34:34
  policy or how the government's run. That doesn't matter. What I'm saying is
• 34:37
  is that maybe the men in some countries have a good incentives to want to,
• 34:46
  you know, potentially fight and die for that country. I mean,
• 34:52
  the United States used to have that right when it was necessary. There were
• 34:57
  men and there still are men who have there's a patriotic spirit in them,
• 35:02
  but there are the incentives for them to do the right thing or good things
• 35:08
  are diminishing, and incentives for women to be badly are growing. And so
• 35:15
  whatever kind of behavior you reward, you will get. And so when if
• 35:22
  our population is dwindling, then that's the reward we're gonna get and you have
• 35:28
  to ask why is that happening? Who is being incentivized to not have families,
• 35:35
  to not start families, or where's this coming from? And I mean
• 35:37
  this is again it's gonna point you in the same direction. You're gonna be
• 35:42
  like, well, wait a minute, who decides when they get pregnant?
• 35:46
  It's women Like this, there is no way around that, but they can't
• 35:52
  they can't talk about it. I mean, Luis Perry is she is not
• 35:54
  being dishonest when she says a country without an army is vulnerable, right,
• 36:01
  and we can't have an army of women. It just wouldn't work. So
• 36:07
  the biological truth of it is that if we want a country that can defend
• 36:14
  itself, at least there has to be men, and they have to be
• 36:17
  good men who want to do that, because otherwise they're going to end up
• 36:22
  with the situation now where you know, there's like all these like foreign wars
• 36:28
  that Americans don't want to be in, and at the same time, we
• 36:31
  have like a global propaganda campaign that is anti mail, right, and then
• 36:37
  we're also asking those men to fight in those wars, and they're like why,
• 36:42
  like I have nothing, I can't get a good job. I can't
• 36:45
  find a woman worth anything. You're taking away my entertainment is crap. My
• 36:52
  video game suck, like my education sucks, my job sucks. Everything costs
• 36:55
  too much. No one considers my point of view worthwhile. And yet you
• 37:00
  want me to go to the Middle East, or you want me to go
• 37:02
  to Eastern Europe. I fight in your wars. So of course they're not
• 37:06
  going to do it, and they shouldn't. And now they're like, well,
• 37:09
  why did that happen? You know, we only disincentivize any reason for
• 37:16
  men to do anything for their country. And so now you're like, well,
• 37:21
  and again, these people aren't putting that together. I don't think they're
• 37:23
  not seeing, you know, like how like they're just connecting the well.
• 37:30
  They want to have a predominant ideology that shames men for their participation in the
• 37:36
  culture as oppressive, but the same time compels men to sacrifice for the very
• 37:43
  culture that they're shamed for having created. And it's yeah, okay, did
• 37:47
  you can continue to try to fit that much fuck into young men's brains or
• 37:52
  you could stop, you know, like, and the thing is that what's
• 37:57
  really happening is young men are just shutting down. And of course they're shutting
• 38:00
  down. When you abuse people, they shut down. Yeah the end.
• 38:06
  All right, I mean you're lucky that that's all they're doing. Okay,
• 38:08
  yes, oh yes, I mean Mary, I mean I love Mariam,
• 38:10
  but yeah, she stands up and talks about natalism, and people just people
• 38:15
  on the left loose their minds. Well, why is that, Louis,
• 38:16
  Why is the idea that because natalism is like a clever word, like intellectual
• 38:22
  use, but like the idea that people in a country or to replenish the
• 38:28
  population by having children, Yeah, the family is a good bay. Yeah,
• 38:31
  Like why why is this code that like we have this? By the
• 38:35
  way, this is another thing that pisses me off, which is like I'm
• 38:37
  gonna pause it there for a second. I don't even think that like it's
• 38:43
  a duty that people have. I mean, I think it is to some
• 38:46
  degree a duty to get married and have kids. But I think that it's
• 38:51
  just like it's already in us to do that, Like we pair, bond,
• 38:55
  we reproduce, that's what we do. So it's not that our natural
• 39:00
  instincts are being like overridden by a demand to reproduce. It's that our natural
• 39:08
  instincts are actually being suppressed by something that's telling us not to do it.
• 39:14
  Like they're telling women don't have kids, you know, focus on career,
• 39:17
  don't be a slave to a man, et cetera. You see this everywhere.
• 39:22
  Even supposed conservative women are like, you know, freaking out about this
• 39:28
  Handmaid's tailed narrative that like, because our population is shrinking, you know,
• 39:34
  the government's gonna start enslaving women and turning them into surrogatece or something. And
• 39:37
  it's like, no, if you just had kids, you'd be fine.
• 39:42
  I think most men want that and most women want that. So why are
• 39:45
  people being told at that that they shouldn't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 39:50
  We all we got to do. We don't. We can just eliminate
• 39:52
  the obstacles and we can provide like some perks like tax breaks to people who
• 40:00
  have kids, which is how it's always been done. It's not even like
• 40:04
  a new thing. Okay. I think what we'll do is we'll let them
• 40:07
  finish their thought and then I want to get back into the time codes we
• 40:10
  were sent. All right, we have this term now something is coded as
• 40:15
  right wing, which basically means it's not right wing. It's just a bunch
• 40:17
  of dickheads in the media think that you shouldn't talk about this issue. It
• 40:21
  gives right wing vibes, right, yeah, which, like, so why
• 40:23
  is this coded as right wing? Yeah, I mean it's really fascinating question,
• 40:29
  like why would why would the most affluent people and comfortable people who have
• 40:35
  ever lived in the history of the world the sizes that actually having babies is
• 40:39
  bad and is onerous and it's okay. So she sort of deflected the question.
• 40:46
  I'm not sure sure if she actually answers it, because I'm pretty sure
• 40:50
  that she just goes into we have an affluent culture, just doesn't want to
• 40:53
  have children something like that. Yeah, maybe because she avoids the question.
• 41:00
  I think because the affulence comes from a particular attitude of self interest. You
• 41:06
  know, get your bag and try to get his bag too, you know,
• 41:09
  keep your bag, get his bag kind of thing. But to answer
• 41:14
  their question, so why is natalism seen as far right? Because family is
• 41:21
  seen as conservative? Astoundingly, I mean, at this point you would have
• 41:24
  to say, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait. So having
• 41:27
  families now is seen as a political position, and I think that it's I
• 41:31
  think it's because in many ways. Both the left and the right are now
• 41:37
  more about masculine and feminine in some ways, Like the left is really about
• 41:43
  the party of the single women. So it's not really masculine and feminine,
• 41:47
  but it's a particular kind of feminine that isn't that's sort of like a i
• 41:52
  don't know, like a petrep Han kind of feminism, or a feminine that
• 41:57
  a feminine that doesn't want to grow up to be of service to anything,
• 42:02
  exchanges nurturing for virtue signaling over monolithic infant classes, that kind of thing.
• 42:10
  So you got this kind of i would say, even infant infantile feminine that
• 42:16
  has grasped the political reins. And because of that, because you now have
• 42:24
  a political party that is deeply invested in manufacturing a particular kind of outlook,
• 42:34
  and literally that outlook is the outlook of single women. Like so the outlook
• 42:39
  of I'm in it for myself. I'm going to keep my bag and get
• 42:43
  his bag. I'm not interested. I'm interested only in me, time,
• 42:46
  sex, and the city. That kind of thing, that kind of very
• 42:51
  hedonistic, achievement focused lifestyle without a sense of responsibility to community, without sense
• 43:00
  of responsibility to family, replacing those kinds of urgentes. I think that women
• 43:04
  do have a sense of responsibility to community. I mean a lot of the
• 43:08
  surge in women in STEM was because of government initiatives to frame going into maths
• 43:16
  and sciences as a part of patriotism of serving serving the country. And then
• 43:22
  women responded to that. They responded a hell of a lot better to that
• 43:25
  than whatever feminism constructed round the victim narrative around STEM. So I mean there
• 43:31
  is that quality of you know, women do want to serve the greater community.
• 43:36
  But the Democratic Party creates this kind of intersectionalism which allows women to do
• 43:43
  that without really impacting their personal life or their personal pursuit of self interest,
• 43:49
  so that they can virtue signal about the monolithic infant classes without having to change
• 43:53
  you know, shitty diapers, you know, without actually having to go and
• 43:59
  help poor people overcome issues or go and dig a well, without actually having
• 44:06
  to do anything personal in order to feel like a virtuous savior and someone who's
• 44:10
  serving the community. You know. So it's it's it's again, it's this
• 44:14
  kind of this. What has happened, in essence is this we now have
• 44:22
  a political party which is in many ways, the only political party which is
• 44:28
  constructed and serves a particular form of feminine consciousness, which is very very juvenile,
• 44:36
  very infantile, very self focused, and isn't interested in serving anything but
• 44:40
  themselves out outside of the most evacuous and self interested virtue signaling. And that's
• 44:47
  a lot, you know, Like I'm sure that we're gonna that's gonna hit
• 44:51
  the misogyny filter because I'm spouting a lot of misogyny there or whatever. But
• 44:59
  it's the the honest to god truth is that, why would we say,
• 45:02
  why would we assume that women grow up by virtue of being women? Why
• 45:08
  would we assume that? Why would we assume that if we construct a society
• 45:15
  around indulging women's most base instincts, which you know, like you can have
• 45:21
  sex whenever you want, you don't have to worry about getting pregnant. If
• 45:24
  you get pregnant, you can have an abortion. And I'm not exactly against
• 45:28
  birth control or abortion, but you know, and if you if you just
• 45:30
  want to for whatever impulse you want to have a child, then we'll pay
• 45:37
  for that too, Like there's no point are women expected to endure the consequences
• 45:44
  of their own choices? They aren't even when they're criminals to the same degree
• 45:46
  men are. So we constantly give women less accountability than men. We constantly
• 45:54
  construct this kind of fantasy world in which women's choices don't matter and they don't
• 46:01
  have an effect, a knock down, a knock on effect on society,
• 46:06
  on community, on their own children, on men. We just pretend that
• 46:08
  that doesn't exist, and it's constructing, basically a fantasy land for women.
• 46:14
  And then we have a political position Democrats the left that is all about continuing
• 46:21
  the fantasy land for the psychology. And so I would say that the reason
• 46:27
  why having family has become right wing is because the left is invested in keeping
• 46:32
  women single. Yeah. Well, although when the left says something is coded
• 46:37
  right or is right wing, what they're really saying is it is evil because
• 46:42
  it is not what we believe it is. So they're trying to That's why
• 46:46
  when people say, well, how is that right, they're just putting everything
• 46:49
  they don't like in one box, calling it right wing and then saying that
• 46:52
  you're evil for support. Why why wouldn't they wouldn't lend they like family?
• 46:57
  Well, that's why that is. No, you're right, I'm just adding
• 47:00
  to what you said. I think there's a there's a base like reason,
• 47:06
  but then there's like a reason behind that. And ultimately, single motherhood is
• 47:10
  essentially a state sponsored family unit. That's what because the state is involved.
• 47:17
  And this is another aspect of it not being right wing, it is it
• 47:21
  is in fact a product of statism, which is leftism. And so there
• 47:25
  you go. That's what that's what single motherhood is, and that's what they
• 47:29
  want to perpetuate. And that's why single moms always vote Democrat because the Democrat
• 47:34
  Party says, look, we are basically the husband, your husband and the
• 47:38
  father of your kids. And if you want to keep getting like your house
• 47:43
  paid for and your food and all that, you got to vote for us.
• 47:45
  And that's that's what it is. It's and you know, it's like
• 47:50
  people talk about how we're like getting getting to the point where harems are being
• 47:54
  formed. There already is one. It is all of these single moms and
• 47:59
  the state. That's what it is. So anyway, I got a superchow,
• 48:05
  and I got a super chow, so I should read that, and
• 48:07
  okay, I'll superchat. Yeah, go ahead. Ros So mister stupid gives
• 48:13
  us five dollars and says, I'm confused. At times, Karen is ranting
• 48:16
  over the fact that there's eight frickin' billion people stumbling over each other. At
• 48:21
  other times, Alison loses her cool over women's material desires that require four planets
• 48:25
  worths of resources. Now you're most concerned about to decline in birth rates at
• 48:30
  a global stale. Didn't the guys at Wick have a point when they said,
• 48:32
  if the Earth's population is reproducing at replacement level, why won't immigration solve
• 48:37
  the numbers problems in the first world? Okay, let's let me just summarize.
• 48:40
  First of all, me and Karen are different people. Clara, like
• 48:45
  me and Brian are different people. We have different opinions about things. I
• 48:50
  cannot answer to what she said about the eight billion people in the world because
• 48:54
  first of all, I don't remember her saying it, and second of all,
• 48:58
  I don't know what she was getting at. So because I'm not her,
• 49:00
  I don't have access to her thinking. Now I can answer to my
• 49:02
  statements. I have lost my cool over women's material desires that would require four
• 49:08
  planets worth of resources. You don't need four planets worth of resources to have
• 49:14
  children. Said that, I think you just said it was two earths though
• 49:20
  too earthly. Yeah, to earth to be clear. Yeah, this is
• 49:22
  and also women's material desires generally. So if if men earned enough to get
• 49:30
  married, since basically what's happening is men need to earn twice as much on
• 49:36
  average to get married, then we would need that much more resources to fulfill
• 49:40
  the material goods that that would purchase. Of course, there'd probably be a
• 49:44
  lot of inflation, but so it wouldn't be quite But you know that's so
• 49:47
  that's where that comes from. But that's not about having children at all.
• 49:52
  In fact, the women who seem to want this may never have children.
• 49:54
  They're not asking for this to have children, right, because you don't need
• 50:00
  all this to have children. They're probably asking for it because they don't want
• 50:04
  to feel like they're losing out, and they want to compete successfully with the
• 50:07
  women who are married for their friends, who are their friends' expectations and that
• 50:12
  kind of thing. So a lot of this is I think female female competition.
• 50:16
  Didn't the guys at Wick have a point when they said that the Earth's
• 50:19
  population is reproducing, but it's not reproducing at replace. Yeah, when they
• 50:23
  said that, but they're wrong. It's like most. In most countries it
• 50:28
  is below replacement level, and some countries in Africa it is like slightly above.
• 50:32
  But it's starting to level out. Yeah, it's starting to plateau,
• 50:37
  as it were. And we're also bear in mind that we're talking about like
• 50:42
  a time in history where there's a large number of old people will be dying
• 50:47
  soon. So these numbers look good maybe, but they won't be for very
• 50:53
  long. And also, eight billion people in the context of the entire planet
• 50:59
  really isn't that many. I don't think that we're overpopulated. I don't think
• 51:02
  we're close to it. Okay, So just to conclude with I think I
• 51:07
  have been explaining what the problem is. We're not at a replacement level.
• 51:13
  If we import people, they won't be at replacement level. So let's say
• 51:19
  we import half the children of Africa. Okay, the people who are left
• 51:27
  cannot well will well. First of all, they will be reducing in the
• 51:30
  amount of children that they have, because this is a worldwide phenomenon. But
• 51:34
  also you are going to be reducing their population by half and then taking the
• 51:38
  product of that reduced population because as they come into our culture, they stop
• 51:45
  breeding, they stop having children. So let's say you have a population of
• 51:50
  Africa ten people, right, ten couples having children, and you take the
• 51:55
  children, like half the children of those ten couples. Then in the next
• 52:00
  generation you have five couples having children in Africa, right, How is that
• 52:06
  sustainable? If you are taking the population that's having children bringing them into the
• 52:13
  countries that are not having children, they become naturalized and stop having children.
• 52:19
  Like basically, what you're saying is Africa has to have a replacement rate for
• 52:22
  Africa plus a replacement rate for the rest of the world, and they are
• 52:28
  going down at some point that's not going to be tenable. We have to
• 52:32
  solve this problem. Okay, So that's the explanation for all of this.
• 52:37
  And the thing about like multiple earths is has more to do with women's materialism,
• 52:44
  yes, rather than like our ability to sustain that, because maybe if
• 52:47
  women stopped asking for so much shit, then we'd probably be better off.
• 52:52
  But this is another thing. It's like the people who are concerned about climate
• 52:54
  would rather that we just kill more human beings than have women less crap,
• 53:01
  you know, I mean that would be that would like, like I swear
• 53:05
  to God, it would fix the problem. And so it's the issue is
• 53:07
  not that we're at replacement level. Fine, replacement level is a good thing
• 53:10
  to aim for, because we're going all below it. Yes, okay,
• 53:15
  I wanted to go to the next thing I wanted to do was to go
• 53:19
  to just give me a second. We're having less sex? Okay, so
• 53:24
  eighteen nineteen h right here? Why are people having less sex? Yes?
• 53:32
  Okay, all right, I got a super chatm for realally quick. Well,
• 53:36
  while we got this kind of sounds like what Muhammad Ali said about Vietnam.
• 53:42
  When I want equality, you're my oppressor, and when I want to
• 53:45
  practice my faith, you're my oppressor. For five dollars Canadian thank you,
• 53:49
  Albert. Okay, I'm gonna go into the sources now and let's let's try.
• 53:55
  We're talking. We seem to be talking about sex more than ever.
• 53:59
  Colnogra fee is literally the click of the click of a button away at the
• 54:02
  tap of a screen away dating apps. You can go on there and you
• 54:07
  can get potentially whatever it is that you like, and you to a very
• 54:13
  fine degree. But we're having less section ever before. Yeah, it's funny,
• 54:17
  isn't it. The sexual session? Yeah? Yeah, I mean my
• 54:21
  theory although I don't really have any proof for it. It's just it's just
• 54:22
  vibed. Is that it's that those things might be linked. It might be
• 54:27
  that when you have this sort of copious availability of sexual stimuli, you don't
• 54:30
  feel the need to go out and actually do the hard work of building a
• 54:35
  relationship with a real person, that maybe sex has less mystique. I mean,
• 54:39
  I think that different opinion. Let's see where are we at. About
• 54:45
  halfway through that clip, there's like like a all right, well you want
• 54:52
  to let's let's have a re false it. I just wanted to pause for
• 54:55
  the you know, to make sure that we don't get hit with the carp
• 54:59
  That's cool, That's definitely. I think it's definitely the case that when men
• 55:04
  are not allowed to have sex before marriage, and when they can only get
• 55:07
  married when they have done various adult things like you've got a job, you've
• 55:13
  got a house, you earn x amount, whatever, they are going to
• 55:15
  be extremely motivated to do those things. Whereas if men can get sex just
• 55:22
  by being good looking or even not, like, why that motivation is removed.
• 55:28
  So I think there's definitely I think sexual frustration. I think good societies
• 55:34
  know how to harness sexual frustration to productive ends. All right, I'm going
• 55:39
  to come at this from a completely different angle instead of again, notice how
• 55:46
  this has been reframed in terms of men's will, shall we say, instead
• 55:52
  of like it's the same thing with the elephant that I spoke about earlier.
• 55:55
  How we seem to have this big issue with recognizing this selective pressure that women
• 56:00
  exert on men, and now suddenly we're talking about this sexlessness as if men
• 56:05
  chose it just be hot, bro, Just be hot bro. Yeah,
• 56:10
  I don't think that's what's happening. First of all, again, it is
• 56:15
  I think women are in many cases the ones who are sort of choosing whether
• 56:19
  or not sex happens. Yes, sometimes even without the man's consent. Okay,
• 56:25
  so this is this is first, This is this is what I would
• 56:29
  want to point out. The other thing is that if there's a situation where
• 56:34
  men are not going out like they're they're preferring porn or sex spots or whatever
• 56:39
  to going out and trying to get in a relationship with a woman, if
• 56:44
  that's happening, perhaps it's not happening because it's easier, which, incidentally,
• 56:51
  why should it be so hard for men to get a relationship with a woman.
• 56:55
  Like at the core of this is this idea that men need to work
• 57:00
  for it, and of course also that in the process of compelling men to
• 57:04
  work for it, that they get on a hamster wheel, and the hamster
• 57:07
  wheel runs society. In other words, so to have I don't think that
• 57:13
  that's actually what motivates men to work. I think it's children, yes,
• 57:17
  family and children, and what's happening now is more and more that doesn't seem
• 57:22
  to be on the table for women. So when you talk about, oh,
• 57:27
  we're not having sex, I think part of it is that many men
• 57:32
  would rather forego all of the antics or all of the effort it takes to
• 57:38
  date women. They'd rather forgo it if they don't think that, for one,
• 57:45
  family and children are going to be there at the end of the day,
• 57:47
  so they don't think that they're actually dating now appears to be an endless
• 57:53
  treadmill with no goal. It's just you know, you give women money,
• 58:00
  you maybe get sex. It's it's it's it is like going to a whorehouse,
• 58:07
  except you're also playing the lottery at the same time. You know,
• 58:12
  let's say, you know, put put your money down, maybe you'll you'll
• 58:15
  get to go into go sleep with I don't know, one of the prostitutes.
• 58:22
  You know. Yeah, it's like a slot machine. Pull the lever,
• 58:27
  maybe maybe you'll get a key to one of the rooms, you know,
• 58:30
  that kind of thing. It's like, it's prostitution, except prostitution with
• 58:34
  gambling attached. Right, So a lot of guys are probably not going into
• 58:38
  that or not interested in that because again, it does not appear to be
• 58:43
  that there's family formation and children at the end of that. So what's the
• 58:46
  point. Like a lot of men, that's what motivates them. They want
• 58:52
  to date because they want to have a family, you know. And and
• 58:55
  a lot of a lot of the stuff that I see coming out popular stuff
• 59:00
  for women is that dating has nothing to do with forming a relationship. It
• 59:05
  has to do with getting free meals. It has to do with having sex
• 59:09
  with no strings attached, you know, it has to do with having getting
• 59:14
  like entertainment, feeling feeling good about yourself. It has nothing to do with
• 59:20
  eventually finding a partner and then the other thing. Again, why should men
• 59:23
  have to get on this treadmill if we're if we're looking at a post natal
• 59:29
  society, a society with no children, where women are not expected to have
• 59:32
  children, they have no responsibility to family. Then what is it that men
• 59:38
  what is it that they want from men? Well, presumably at this point
• 59:43
  it's like nothing, right, but what about companionship? Like if you if
• 59:47
  you have all these expectations on men but no children at the end of the
• 59:51
  day, no form family formation at the end of the day, then what
• 59:54
  these women are presenting is this idea that they're extremely expensive whorers with no determined
• 1:00:04
  outcome. Basically, yeah, like that, it's just like you play the
• 1:00:07
  slots, maybe you'll get a salute, all right, Like that's basically it.
• 1:00:13
  And then the other thing is that more and more women don't present the
• 1:00:16
  idea that men can be loved, that women can love men, And that's
• 1:00:22
  I'm sure turning off a lot of men because we don't even have to look
• 1:00:25
  at the sexlessness, because that's probably irrelevant. Let's look at the number of
• 1:00:30
  men who are even willing to start attempt at dating. Is going down leaps
• 1:00:36
  and bounds, And I would honestly argue that one it doesn't look like there's
• 1:00:43
  family on the table, Like at the end of this dating treadmill, are
• 1:00:46
  you going to get kids and family? Probably not? And two, are
• 1:00:51
  you even going to get companionship at the end of the day, Like even
• 1:00:54
  if you're gonna be one of those eternal honeymooners, Like, are you gonna
• 1:00:59
  get a woman that you think can desire you socially as a friend, sexually
• 1:01:06
  as a lover? Are you even gonna get a companion Because from what I've
• 1:01:09
  been seeing, women don't give the impression that they will ever love men.
• 1:01:15
  There's a lot of women out there, the loudest voices get the very strong
• 1:01:21
  impression that women are incapable of loving men, or alternatively, if you want
• 1:01:25
  to frame it in a way that won't be flagged as misogynist, that women
• 1:01:30
  our men are completely incapable of becoming lovable to women. And so now we're
• 1:01:37
  seeing the numbers and men who are willing to interact with women at all go
• 1:01:43
  down and down and down. And we don't have to worry about the sex
• 1:01:45
  because, let's face it, genital hand shapes do not make a civilization.
• 1:01:52
  Treating sex as entertainment does not create a future for the human race. Right,
• 1:01:57
  So there you go, men not engaging because they don't see families at
• 1:02:02
  the end of the road. You know, why would why would they engage
• 1:02:07
  in all of this dating behavior, all of this courtship behavior, which incidentally
• 1:02:10
  arose because it's a huge part of human beings para bonding and forming families.
• 1:02:16
  Why would they do this when family is not on the table. And why
• 1:02:21
  would they do this if even if family is not on the table, why
• 1:02:23
  would they do this if companionship isn't even on the table? Like, women
• 1:02:29
  need to need to need to figure this shit out. They need to learn
• 1:02:35
  to appreciate men as companions, right, they need to. And And the
• 1:02:42
  reason why I say they need to learn this is because I'm pretty sure from
• 1:02:45
  my experience of all of this, what I'm seeing that the reason why they
• 1:02:50
  don't appreciate men as companions is because their girlfriends whisper in their ears, he's
• 1:02:54
  not getting enough for you, he's not doing enough for you. You could
• 1:02:59
  get so much better. And instead of just saying this is mine, this
• 1:03:05
  is the guy that I'm going to share my life with, my sorrows and
• 1:03:07
  hopes, this is the man that I'm going to turn to for comfort and
• 1:03:12
  hopefully be able to comfort him, this is my partner, Instead they play
• 1:03:16
  endless games of compare and contrast with their girlfriends, which destabilizes and destroys their
• 1:03:23
  relationships, and then they do TikTok challenges and all of this other crap,
• 1:03:28
  and in the back of their mind they're always like, well, what if
• 1:03:30
  he's getting something more out of this than me. I gotta make sure I
• 1:03:34
  get my bag, you know. And all of this noise makes it impossible
• 1:03:38
  for women to clear their minds and simply enjoy the fact that another human being
• 1:03:45
  has chosen to be with them and there's nothing more valuable in the world than
• 1:03:52
  that. All. Okay, what's the next section? Should tell it to?
• 1:03:59
  Well, I mean that was the end of that section. Was there
• 1:04:01
  something that Great Indoors wanted us to look at specifically? Well, he gave
• 1:04:05
  a bunch of time codes, and I'm looking through them to find the ones
• 1:04:09
  that are really good. Let's go back to seventeen oh six, the danger
• 1:04:15
  of a less peaceful society with a surplus of single men, because that's something
• 1:04:18
  I also want to deal with. Like, there's a lot, like it's
• 1:04:21
  it is an over hour video, so there is a lot in it.
• 1:04:25
  Yeah, I know there's that I want to before I get into the overarching
• 1:04:30
  stuff, which is society that's wealthy. He equals a society that has fewer
• 1:04:34
  children. I just wanted to deal with all of the all of the things
• 1:04:39
  that piss me off. Yeah, sure, that way, Okay, all
• 1:04:43
  right, let's go. Well, you can say that at an individual level
• 1:04:46
  that might be fine, and that for some people that might be fine,
• 1:04:50
  but having it as the norm, yeah, is bad. Right, coming
• 1:04:55
  back to a conversation about children growing up without fathers, if there's one hundred
• 1:05:00
  children with one father, it's probably going to struggle to give them you know,
• 1:05:04
  that's certainly true. Yeah, that's certainly true. And I think also
• 1:05:09
  it's probably bad for society to have lots of men without mates. Yes,
• 1:05:13
  yeah, because we do know that fatherhood kind of tames men in terms of
• 1:05:17
  men commit less crime. And you know that they're just societies with lots of
• 1:05:23
  sexually frustrated men are more less peaceful societies. And also I know you can
• 1:05:29
  you can end up you can go from that to be like, oh,
• 1:05:30
  well, in that case, we need to be apportioning women to all of
• 1:05:33
  the insults. And you know, there's there's a very just I said,
• 1:05:39
  sexually frustrated men are necessary for the functioning of society, but don't have too
• 1:05:44
  many of them. It's destructive. Well, I guess, I guess you
• 1:05:46
  could say they're like gasoline, Like the exploding the gasoline inside it an engine
• 1:05:53
  is good, but exploding it outside is bad. But the but the thing
• 1:05:57
  is that men are not destructive because they're sexually frustrated, right, That's not
• 1:06:09
  that's not how it works. Destructive men are a very specific subcategory, and
• 1:06:15
  we really shouldn't even refer to them as men because women are very like destructive
• 1:06:18
  women are basically the same. Criminal people are a very specific subcategory, right,
• 1:06:28
  that of people who have genetic abnormalities that lead to poor impulse control combined
• 1:06:32
  with extremely destructive upbringings. So to say, oh, it's sexual frustration that
• 1:06:40
  makes men dangerous, that is nonsense. And in fact, it feels like
• 1:06:45
  it's taking off this whole kind of genetic sin, that of rape, you
• 1:06:49
  know what I mean, Like it's oh men are rape y, Oh oh
• 1:06:54
  oh bullshit, that's it. I just I wanted to say that. And
• 1:06:59
  also men, societies with more men are generally more peaceful, apparently as long
• 1:07:06
  as you're not shitting on them. The whole time. Yeah, I mean
• 1:07:10
  like shitting on them the whole time, you know, and you're like treating
• 1:07:13
  them like human beings and educating contributions. Yeah, exactly, like encouraging them
• 1:07:19
  to be you know, good men and productive and stuff. But like we're
• 1:07:24
  not doing we're doing the opposite of that, and where you know, and
• 1:07:30
  basically we're putting men in a spot where they're lonely. They can't have friend
• 1:07:35
  groups because that gets broken up, they can't find mates, there's no incentive
• 1:07:41
  for them to excel at anything. And now we're like, oh my god,
• 1:07:45
  what happens if there's too many of them, Well, probably do something
• 1:07:48
  about that, Like, but you can't go and you know, start like
• 1:07:54
  clutching your pearls after all of this damage has been done. Frankly, you
• 1:07:59
  should be prize that it's not a lot worse that men are just kind of
• 1:08:03
  you know, checking out. Yeah, well, I mean they they have.
• 1:08:10
  First of all, again, it's only going to be a minority of
• 1:08:13
  people who engage in any kind of criminal violence unless you start creating a narrative
• 1:08:20
  in which it's justified. Like I mean, soldiers will do this, but
• 1:08:25
  they believe that they're upholding the principles of their culture. So you know,
• 1:08:30
  you can create narratives that justify violence. But that's not really what's going on
• 1:08:34
  here. She's basically just saying, you know, frustrated male equal danger.
• 1:08:39
  Bullshit. All right, Let's let's go to the next next and play the
• 1:08:45
  rest of this or is there another another time code? Let's go to fifteen
• 1:08:49
  fifty three. It's just a little bit before. I know we're going backwards.
• 1:08:54
  But it's because I wanted to get into why natalism is is seen as
• 1:09:01
  right wing, which it's simply it's because the Democratic Party is now the party
• 1:09:06
  of single women, and the cultivate that particular mentality, which means that you
• 1:09:15
  know, you can't have family, like a woman with a family is not
• 1:09:17
  a single woman. Therefore family must be condemned. Let's go erosion of monogamy.
• 1:09:26
  I'm gonna guess this isn't good for women. No, I don't think
• 1:09:30
  so. I mean there would be some So someone like Dana Fleischmann you've had
• 1:09:32
  on the part of you. She's friend of mine, she's Polly. I'm
• 1:09:38
  sure you know she's very open about this, and she would say that there's
• 1:09:42
  like there's a threshold in terms of how attractive a man is, where women
• 1:09:47
  are willing to tolerate not being the only woman. Like, if he's so
• 1:09:51
  attractive and the condition of being with him is that you're part of a harem,
• 1:09:57
  there's a point where women will be like, Okay, some women,
• 1:10:00
  yeah, so it will be more of use than others, but like yeah,
• 1:10:03
  and I guess she'd say, well, it's up to them, you
• 1:10:08
  know. That's if the women are willing to tolerate not being the only one.
• 1:10:11
  It's obviously different if if they're being lied to. But if he's being
• 1:10:15
  open about what's going on, then I suppose you could say they're adults,
• 1:10:19
  they can make the decision. I think you a pause, Yeah, Well,
• 1:10:29
  I mean this is like actually happening. There are guys that are so
• 1:10:33
  high status that women are willing to share him and they're okay with it.
• 1:10:40
  And I mean they don't even have to really be She's saying, you know,
• 1:10:43
  as long as he's being honest. But I think that even if the
• 1:10:46
  conversation has never taken place where he's just like, you know, like he's
• 1:10:51
  never committed to anybody or anything, and he's just like banking whoever, the
• 1:10:56
  women will but they I think what often happens is they join the harem and
• 1:11:01
  what they do is they try to become the number one woman. So you
• 1:11:05
  know, there's still some intra intersexual competition between the women this guy is with.
• 1:11:13
  And then they complain about his behavior as if it references all. Yeah,
• 1:11:17
  of course, and they'll say, well, this is what all men
• 1:11:19
  are like. But you know it's to go to the home math thing that
• 1:11:25
  she's only looking at that guy and all the other men don't exist as men.
• 1:11:30
  This is I think again something that you could look at in terms of
• 1:11:32
  women's competition with each other and also social proof, because a man who has
• 1:11:38
  lots of women has a lot of social proof, so because of that he
• 1:11:43
  becomes more attractive. But again, like what I was talking about was understanding
• 1:11:49
  and appreciating companionship, right, because this is a purely sexual thing. The
• 1:11:56
  guys who have these women, who's okay with this is just purely interested in
• 1:12:01
  the sexuality the guy. Yeah, like he's he's he is, there's nothing
• 1:12:09
  else there. Or alternatively, she's part of more conservative culture and maybe the
• 1:12:15
  emphasis is on her relationship with the other wives, right. I mean that
• 1:12:19
  could work too, but for the most part. It is like it is,
• 1:12:26
  it's a situation where the value of men's companionship is quite low. So
• 1:12:30
  it becomes about, oh, does he have social proof from other women?
• 1:12:35
  You know, can I engage in caddie one upmanship with other women because that
• 1:12:40
  could be the attraction too, to indulge your competition with other women over this
• 1:12:46
  one guy who's very valuable and made even more valuable by all that competition that
• 1:12:51
  you get to indulge in. And what dies along the way is this idea
• 1:12:56
  of just simply having a companion, opinion, and because that's not what you're
• 1:13:02
  getting from this. So, I mean, there's that, and that is
• 1:13:06
  something that women I think have to deal with in themselves of themselves, because
• 1:13:12
  I think a lot of some of the issue with being able to have a
• 1:13:15
  companion or pursue companionship is you have to sort of be comfortable with yourself.
• 1:13:21
  I know a lot of people go in about all the codependence and all this
• 1:13:26
  stuff, and people who can't survive without a relationship. Honestly, the people
• 1:13:31
  who have the worst relationship with themselves tend to be unable to keep a relationship
• 1:13:39
  with someone else. Apologies, lay it out there they talk at big talk
• 1:13:43
  about codependence, But codependent people probably are more comfortable with themselves than a single
• 1:13:50
  woman who's talking about how I don't need no man but wants men to hear
• 1:13:57
  that or say that, you know, oh yeah, constantly can't exist without
• 1:14:04
  thumbing her nose at the very men she says she don't need. Well,
• 1:14:09
  you seem to need he of them for something, for some aspect of your
• 1:14:13
  psychological health. Otherwise you just be trucking along your own way and not talking
• 1:14:17
  about it publicly, not making TikTok Like I'm just thinking about that one TikTok
• 1:14:24
  video where the woman is in her house and she's just doing things and she's
• 1:14:28
  got the h I don't you have to compete with me being alone? You
• 1:14:35
  know you got you men. You don't compete with other men. You just
• 1:14:41
  compete with me being all by myself, just with me. And I'm like,
• 1:14:46
  oh, good lord, Like, you obviously need something from men if
• 1:14:50
  you're even making this video to make men feel bad that you're not choosing them,
• 1:14:58
  and just just as a soul, as a completely shallow a side,
• 1:15:01
  what is with this freaking bulk or fry Like, I mean, it's gone
• 1:15:08
  from just emphasizing things to just being like your personality. It's it's your whole
• 1:15:15
  personality and you're so done with the world. Right, Yeah, is a
• 1:15:20
  nightmare. I could just say it normal life is a nightmare. Okay,
• 1:15:28
  okay, okay, okay, I can't take it. Okay. I think
• 1:15:32
  there's a few more seconds than this one, so it's been all right,
• 1:15:35
  we'll play the rest of this, I think. So that having I think
• 1:15:40
  it's totally possible, and in fact, there are loads of cases where this
• 1:15:43
  is the case, where you can say that at an individual level that might
• 1:15:45
  be fine, and that for some people that might be fine, but having
• 1:15:49
  it as the norm is bad. Right, coming back to a conversation about
• 1:15:56
  children growing up without fathers, if there's one hundred chill with one father,
• 1:16:00
  it's probably going to struggle to give them, you know. That's te Yeah,
• 1:16:04
  that's true. That happens. That happens in low income urban areas all
• 1:16:12
  the time. A lot of the single moms, and they're single moms,
• 1:16:15
  so this benefits the state too, But they usually are all sleeping with like
• 1:16:20
  a small subset of men who are in the same community, and those men
• 1:16:26
  are not necessarily high status in that they're like CEOs, but they might be
• 1:16:31
  gang leaders or drug dealers or you know whatever in like or part of organized
• 1:16:38
  crime groups in that area. I know, I lived in Humble Park,
• 1:16:42
  Chicago, and it's you it's all over the city, the south side,
• 1:16:46
  the west side, whatever, and in these women will know they're sharing the
• 1:16:50
  same dude right in a lot of cases, and they're okay with it.
• 1:16:56
  Sometimes it becomes violent between those women. There's lots of like you know,
• 1:17:00
  street fights with women, Black women and Latina women in these like in the
• 1:17:09
  projects, and they're fighting over a man and the man's not even there,
• 1:17:13
  you know, and their kids are involved in everything, and it's like,
• 1:17:16
  I mean, we can talk about like why that man should be taking responsibility
• 1:17:21
  or something, but it's kind of stupid because ultimately, it's like even if
• 1:17:27
  he said I will do my best and he's got one hundred kids, it's
• 1:17:30
  an unworkable situation. So you got to ask, why, ladies are you
• 1:17:35
  all knowingly getting pregnant with this same dude. Well, first of all,
• 1:17:41
  because the government's got to pay for it anyway. So you're like, well
• 1:17:44
  why not. I knew women who had like four kids, five kids,
• 1:17:48
  and they would have them from different fathers, specifically because they would get more
• 1:17:53
  money, either from child support or from the state. And on top of
• 1:17:58
  that, they got the biggest tax returns somehow. So we're incentivizing this and
• 1:18:03
  it's what we're gonna get. M Well, what I was going to say
• 1:18:08
  is, yeah, like, how are you going to get enough money to
• 1:18:14
  cover one hundred kids from one man? Yeah? And then the only person
• 1:18:19
  we're trying to hold accountable is the man. It's like, what are you
• 1:18:23
  going to do about that guy? Like, you can't you can't stop the
• 1:18:27
  one dude, the pimp that's getting like, you know, twenty women pregnant
• 1:18:31
  all the time, You can't stop him, but you can probably stop them
• 1:18:36
  from making these stupid decisions. Yeah, I'm not paying them to do it,
• 1:18:43
  but yeah, it's like and then, like I remember we talked about
• 1:18:46
  this when I think it was Musk retweeted the one of the Republican nominees.
• 1:18:53
  He was talking about how he would make it so that if you find the
• 1:18:57
  father that he was one hundred percent responsible for the for child support with no
• 1:19:02
  opt out. Yeah, it's like, well, but in many cases,
• 1:19:05
  how are you going to get that guided support his hundred kids. Like,
• 1:19:11
  I mean, if the dude is probably already a criminal, do you really
• 1:19:14
  think that, Like this is what I'm saying. It's such a it's almost
• 1:19:16
  like it's a virtue signal to say that because what you're doing, see this
• 1:19:20
  is what this is what they're doing when these politicians do that. And yeah,
• 1:19:27
  it doesn't matter what the party is, they're pandering to women still.
• 1:19:31
  Either they're pandering to women and by promising them free shit, or they're pannering
• 1:19:34
  to women by promising to make the men pay. But they're pandering to women
• 1:19:40
  at the end of the day, and that's what has to stop. I
• 1:19:43
  mean, it's like we have to look, the system that we are now
• 1:19:48
  using to incentivize bad behavior in single motherhood is unsustainable objectively. And so either
• 1:19:57
  women are going to be told they have to change their ways, they have
• 1:20:00
  to like reconsider their habits, they have to change something about their life,
• 1:20:05
  or the system is going to collapse and there's just not gonna be any money.
• 1:20:10
  And and like the men they're just gonna be like, you know,
• 1:20:14
  doing their own thing. Oh, they're just gonna stop fucking around with these
• 1:20:18
  women. And that's gonna be it. So it's it's it doesn't matter like
• 1:20:24
  how we get there or who feels blamed it, that doesn't matter because the
• 1:20:30
  devil will have his due eventually no matter what. So you might as well
• 1:20:34
  like try to do something now. Yeah. Yeah, I just think it's
• 1:20:42
  ridiculous because if if women all choose the same guy, they're just not going
• 1:20:45
  to be able to make him accountable. Yeah, let's let's go to because
• 1:20:50
  this is this is relevant to how much longer? How much longer are we
• 1:20:57
  going? By the way, Yeah, because you've always we're that And I
• 1:21:00
  got to do a patre show too, what are we at? Go to?
• 1:21:02
  Ten fifty five? Ten fifty Right? Here we go? That might
• 1:21:13
  be fine and that for some kids and now born outside of wedlock. I
• 1:21:15
  think we crossed that threshold a couple of years ago, and in some groups
• 1:21:20
  it's even higher. Do you think there will be some kind of snap back
• 1:21:26
  against it? Or is it a single parenthood all the way down? I
• 1:21:30
  don't know. I mean, I suppose it might be that we're just reverting
• 1:21:32
  to the human mating norm is polygynous, no where you have no, it
• 1:21:46
  is not? Is that like some mass except don shit. Okay, you
• 1:21:50
  get rid of yeah, it's exit down. Shit. You get rid of
• 1:21:55
  the welfare state, and you go back to a system in which are cooperating
• 1:22:00
  to gain the resources in order to support children. And you will see how
• 1:22:06
  quickly we go back to monogamous marriages without the one guy bothering one hundred children.
• 1:22:14
  You'll see how quickly we go back, and it will be rapid.
• 1:22:20
  I mean, okay, let's let's hear the rest. Well, you have
• 1:22:24
  one male having multiple female partners, and some portion of men not having any
• 1:22:30
  right. The monogamous system that we that prevails until recently in the West is
• 1:22:36
  quite unusual. I think it's twenty percent of society to have a monogamous system,
• 1:22:41
  which most of the most of the societies that have polygamy are mostly like
• 1:22:48
  the most of the relationships in those societies are monogamous. And also the cultures
• 1:22:55
  that have strict monogamy are the most successful. Yeah the end, so well,
• 1:23:04
  peasants had lots of kids. Yeah, so okay, let's uh are
• 1:23:11
  we do we get to? Okay, so just a few more four seconds
• 1:23:14
  of that, okay, and we have about like three or four time codes
• 1:23:18
  left. So all right, Well, if you need to rest your voice,
• 1:23:23
  then just I'll take it. I'll take it away. But pretty close.
• 1:23:29
  The rest of this, of course include some of the most like successful
• 1:23:32
  civilizations term ever existed, including Christendom and Roman, you know, Romand and
• 1:23:36
  Christiandom. But it's still not polygynous. Oh I think she's saying she's referring
• 1:23:44
  to monogamous. Oh I think so. Yeah, the Romans very monogamous.
• 1:23:50
  Yeah, go back a little bit. Yeah, yeah, she was referring
• 1:23:53
  to monogamy. But I say some portion of men not having any right.
• 1:23:58
  The monogamous system that we we that prevails until recently in the West is quite
• 1:24:03
  unusual. I think it's twenty percent of societies that have a monogamous system,
• 1:24:06
  which as of course include some of the most like successful civilizations to ever existed,
• 1:24:13
  including Christendom and Roman, you know Roman. Okay, fair enough,
• 1:24:16
  so we're gonna move. We're gonna move to a different time code. We
• 1:24:20
  are not polygamous as a polygynis species. If we were, there would be
• 1:24:29
  certain features, anatomical features that would be quite different. For example, men
• 1:24:34
  and women's ca. Nine teeth are there's almost no sexual dimorphism between men and
• 1:24:41
  women's canine teeth. If we were polygamous maters, men's ca nine teeth would
• 1:24:46
  probably be They would probably be about an inch long if we judge based on
• 1:24:56
  like what the difference between male and female chips. So could you imagine that
• 1:25:01
  right there? Ye'd be pretty cool. Yeah, I'd be preaking. I
• 1:25:04
  wish, I wish I had canines. That'd be cool. We'd have huge
• 1:25:09
  like men would have huge ass canines. They would also have significantly different skulls,
• 1:25:15
  Like if you look at if you compare the skulls of chimpanzees versus male
• 1:25:21
  versus female, how you compare the skulls of their promiscuous mats. You compare
• 1:25:28
  the skulls of gorillas male versus female. So men would essentially look like orcs.
• 1:25:34
  They would probably be about two to three feet taller than women, a
• 1:25:40
  couple hundred pounds heavier. They would have gigantic canines, Their faces would slope
• 1:25:45
  out like this, and they'd have huge brows and sagital cresses in order to
• 1:25:51
  support a bite force. That's not what human men look like. I mean,
• 1:25:57
  maybe it would be cool if they did, but it's sounds like a
• 1:26:01
  subgenre of Hen's itemy though. Yeah, well but but like there's real significant
• 1:26:06
  anatomical differences when you're dealing with a polygamous species and also pairing with their gigantic
• 1:26:14
  orc like appearance. They would have balls the size of grapes and a penis
• 1:26:18
  the size of a thimble. Yeah, that's not as fun. Okay,
• 1:26:27
  So no, human men are not They don't reflect their basic anatomy of humans
• 1:26:33
  does not reflect the anatomy that you would expect of a polygynous species, like
• 1:26:39
  an inherently polygynis species, not one that's flexible enough to include polygyny sometimes,
• 1:26:45
  because that's we're flexing. Our mating system is basically monogamous, but we have
• 1:26:53
  some flexibility so we can include some polygyny and some polyandry and then also some
• 1:26:59
  polygamy period like multiple people having relationships. This doesn't make us a polygnous species.
• 1:27:06
  There would be biological markers if we were, and we're not, which
• 1:27:13
  is not We're probably we're much closer to a monogamous model and you know,
• 1:27:21
  maybe a little bit of promiscuity. But honestly, compared to other mammals that
• 1:27:27
  are social pair bonders like beavers, there's a low level of non paternity,
• 1:27:35
  like humans actually have a very high level of a co like a correspondence between
• 1:27:43
  social paternity, which is the father that's raising the children, and genetic paternity,
• 1:27:48
  which is the father that fathered the children. Other mammals, including other
• 1:27:53
  bird species, that's not as high as as it is in humans. In
• 1:27:57
  humans, it's probably about ninety five percent the social father is the biological father.
• 1:28:02
  Now, having said that, that five percent is abhorrent, like every
• 1:28:08
  single woman who engages in paternity fraud is basically a rapist as far as I'm
• 1:28:13
  concerned. So don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's justified. I'm
• 1:28:16
  just saying it's not very high compared to animals, where with beavers, only
• 1:28:24
  thirty percent of the genetic fathers are the social fathers are also genetic fathers with
• 1:28:30
  supposedly pair bonding birds. Like the rate of genetic the rate of genetic monogamy
• 1:28:36
  can sometimes be, as you know, only about seventy percent fifty seventy percent.
• 1:28:43
  Like humans are very monogamous, it's just the way we are. That
• 1:28:47
  doesn't mean again that people don't cheat. It doesn't mean that you can't have
• 1:28:50
  polygyny. It doesn't mean that you can't have polyandry. It doesn't mean that
• 1:28:55
  you know you There aren't failures, There aren't women who cuckold men. But
• 1:28:59
  the idea that cuckolding is wrong would only come about in a species with our
• 1:29:05
  high level of genetic monogamy, I'll be honest, Like, just like the
• 1:29:10
  idea that rape being wrong would only come about in a species that very much
• 1:29:15
  values sexual consent. Right, So there you go. That's my answer for
• 1:29:21
  this. We should probably go to the next time code I will tell yeah,
• 1:29:27
  five thirty three, Okay, So, yeah, it's the shaming of
• 1:29:35
  single mothers versus the shaming of dead beat dads quote unquote dead beat dads.
• 1:29:40
  Why don't we call single women mothers like deadbeat moms? It's yeah, I
• 1:29:48
  mean it's not quite right. It's more like women who deny uh father's access
• 1:29:56
  to their kids, I guess, or make poor choices in the men that
• 1:30:01
  they choose to braid with one of them about these women must know that when
• 1:30:08
  they become woman number twenty seven in in that Yeah, in those instances,
• 1:30:15
  it is not going to live up to any of his responsibility so called responsibilities.
• 1:30:19
  Yeah, you must know that. And I guess I'm trying to find
• 1:30:24
  a term that fits because there's a number of reasons. One is that one
• 1:30:28
  is, you know, maybe they're not getting pregnant with like of like the
• 1:30:33
  the guy that the the high SETUS guy in the area. But maybe it's
• 1:30:40
  you know, for other reasons, like they're they're they just figure that their
• 1:30:45
  choices don't matter, because I think there is like this idea that they have
• 1:30:49
  no control over their life. And then it's kind of like, oh,
• 1:30:53
  I got pregnant. Oh well, even though we have all this birth control
• 1:30:56
  and all these options, but they choose to like they maybe anyway, and
• 1:31:00
  they push the men out of their life, you know, purposefully, or
• 1:31:05
  they reproduce with the guy that's unfit to be a dad because you know,
• 1:31:12
  he's a criminal, ends up in jail, he ends up with lots of
• 1:31:14
  other women. So it's almost like a deadbeat mom is not quite the right
• 1:31:20
  way to put it, but it's something else like unfit mother basically, or
• 1:31:26
  remember we used to call we used to have a line in the nineties when
• 1:31:30
  teenage girls would get pregnant. We used to have like a way of shaming
• 1:31:32
  them. All the babies having babies wed mothers, onwed mothers, unwed mothers.
• 1:31:39
  Yeah, that's we go back to that, unwed mothers or mothers who
• 1:31:44
  have chosen not to have fathers in their children's lives. Because it's honestly like
• 1:31:48
  this, mothers who deny fathers basically or their children fathers uh fatherless child hars
• 1:32:00
  Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, it's like, here's the thing, like
• 1:32:02
  we used to hold women accountable. Okay, we used to have a stigma
• 1:32:08
  around that, for sure, we used to have a stigma around that,
• 1:32:10
  and then suddenly we get away with get get rid of the stigma. But
• 1:32:14
  the stigma on men is still there. Stigma on men is definitely still there.
• 1:32:18
  We still we give we give mothers like Mother's Day and Father's Day.
• 1:32:26
  Yeah, we just give men instead of stigmatizing single women. We just give
• 1:32:30
  them Father's Day. But we still stigmatize men. Of course, this the
• 1:32:33
  argument here is going to be that we don't but we do. Yeah,
• 1:32:38
  And so what has happened this is increased, the number of women single moms
• 1:32:43
  is increased. Maybe it is not because of the choices of men. Well,
• 1:32:48
  I was gonna say, like we've been we've been using the term dead
• 1:32:53
  beat dad for decades and the dead beat dad phenomena continues. It's almost like,
• 1:33:00
  like I said before, those guys they don't care what you think of
• 1:33:03
  them. So maybe they were probably not like they were probably not a good
• 1:33:10
  choice for a dad, but they were chosen for the sex. He was
• 1:33:14
  willing. She was willing, She knew what she was getting into. We
• 1:33:17
  don't have anything to say, Like, it comes down to women are the
• 1:33:21
  gatekeepers of sex, and they are they have to be complicit if a baby
• 1:33:27
  is going to happen, right, And they are choosing the kind of men,
• 1:33:30
  the caliber of men to reproduce with, and those are the men that
• 1:33:34
  get elevated because those are the men who are sexually successful. So other men
• 1:33:41
  who are not sexually successful might even look at those men and say, oh,
• 1:33:45
  so that's what I gotta do to get laid. And so you almost
• 1:33:47
  like, I mean, not that most men would do that, because I'm
• 1:33:49
  sure that only a few would, but you're creating the standard. Like what
• 1:33:55
  women choose in terms of who they want to reproduce with, who they want
• 1:33:59
  to lay down with, that creates the standard that other men will look at
• 1:34:02
  and they'll be like, well, I want to be like that. So
• 1:34:05
  essentially, what welfare has done is it's freed women to select men based on
• 1:34:11
  other factors than responsibility, discipline, providership, et cetera. And the other
• 1:34:18
  factors that they choose are very different from that. But that's the thing.
• 1:34:26
  The women are the ones choosing this, They are the ones driving this.
• 1:34:30
  Government is the one facilitating this choice. Okay, let let's listen to what
• 1:34:33
  she has to say. I got a rumble, rant I gotta read it
• 1:34:36
  really quick, as we don't forget. Nova Fan twenty one gives us two
• 1:34:40
  bucks and says, notice how society struggles labeling women even when women do harm
• 1:34:45
  while they casually insult men for any reason. Is as if the very idea
• 1:34:48
  of holding women accountable is seen as slavery. Yeah, well, and obviously,
• 1:34:53
  like activists will not put up with it, but it's true. It's
• 1:34:58
  like they can't even and find the words to make the case. And this
• 1:35:02
  is like an issue of the language. Okay, So want to play the
• 1:35:05
  rest of this sound bite. People would probably be forced to reckon with reality
• 1:35:12
  a lot more in I don't know, something like something like single motherhoods.
• 1:35:17
  You know, in it's absolutely true, you know, the feminist critique of
• 1:35:23
  the shaming of single mothers that the shaming of single mothers causes a lot of
• 1:35:26
  harm to women and their children. It's also the case of single motherhood is
• 1:35:30
  its self catastrophic. Particularly, it's way more harmful. Actually, like shaming
• 1:35:36
  women, it probably hurts their feelings, but women who are single moms are
• 1:35:42
  bringing like damaged kids into the world who then grow up and they become single
• 1:35:47
  mothers or they become criminals, and that spreads. It's way, way,
• 1:35:53
  way, way more impactful than hurting the feelings of a single mom. And
• 1:35:59
  you know, so you know who normally would have done that in the past,
• 1:36:02
  her father, her mother would have stepped in and said, you know,
• 1:36:08
  you probably shouldn't sleep with that guy. He's bad news. Right.
• 1:36:12
  But now, like you have, how many generations into single motherhood are we
• 1:36:17
  like three? So we were like three generations in to single motherhood, So
• 1:36:25
  you have multiple generations removed from a standard. So a girl, for example,
• 1:36:30
  that's hitting puberty and becoming sexually active today, her mother was herself sexually
• 1:36:38
  active as a teenager and also made the same mistakes, and she is probably
• 1:36:44
  not internalized the fact that it was her decisions that made that. So instead
• 1:36:49
  she continues to perpetuate that same like behavior, she's gonna repeat it, or
• 1:36:57
  at least as a high chance of it. Let me put it this way.
• 1:37:00
  You know, we say that it's like that it's a negative behavior.
• 1:37:02
  But what the government has done is he they the government has actually made being
• 1:37:10
  a single mother a sensible choice, like a choice like a lot of the
• 1:37:17
  girls talk about who can engage in this, They say, well, it
• 1:37:20
  gives them status, they get money, they get their own home. Like
• 1:37:26
  that makes it a on a purely mercenary level, a choice that makes sense.
• 1:37:34
  That's what we've done. And then women choose this, and we are
• 1:37:40
  basically incentivizing social decay. And incidentally, single motherhood is not actually it's not.
• 1:37:47
  It doesn't actually create a very high degree of fertility. It actually lowers
• 1:37:53
  fertility overall. Like they do have children, but overall there's actually fewer children.
• 1:38:00
  So if you compared a neighborhood that had lots of single mothers to a
• 1:38:04
  neighborhood that has a father and a mother and kids, the neighborhood with a
• 1:38:10
  father and mother and kids overall will have a higher birth rate than single mother
• 1:38:15
  Yeah, so the very best and most fertile that humans are is when we're
• 1:38:21
  paired up and we're having children. And one of the reasons why is because
• 1:38:28
  those children become more successful so they can actually form families themselves. Because there's
• 1:38:32
  there's actually sort of a what's interesting to me is they're in the in the
• 1:38:39
  correct me if I'm wrong, because you've had experience of this in these communities.
• 1:38:43
  There are the men who are visible, the gang leaders, the drug
• 1:38:45
  pushers, right, and they are getting the women. But then there seems
• 1:38:49
  to be this underclass of men who just disappear completely. They're just gone,
• 1:38:58
  and I mean a lot of them I think just end up, you know,
• 1:39:00
  living in a room in their mom's house or in the basement. Yeah,
• 1:39:04
  just just or disappearing into drugs. They just erode themselves, like they
• 1:39:11
  just get into like you said, they get into addictions and get into a
• 1:39:15
  malaise of like existing if they're if they get like, you know, an
• 1:39:20
  honest job or whatever, but they don't really have prospects. They don't know
• 1:39:25
  how to navigate the world. They don't they don't have anything to model there
• 1:39:30
  there themselves after except their peer group and a lot of those guys also don't
• 1:39:35
  have a father to model themselves after, So the learning about what it means
• 1:39:41
  to be a man from other men who don't know what it means to be
• 1:39:44
  a man. Yeah, so they just sort of get lost. And then
• 1:39:46
  I imagine there's a lot of women, girls who get lost to and maybe
• 1:39:49
  don't even want to be part of this whole process. Overall reproductive rate is
• 1:39:55
  quite low, whereas with the healthy community with family formation, the overall reproductive
• 1:40:00
  rate is higher. But let's let's get into this more, all right,
• 1:40:05
  all right, we'll play more of the video in ears. When there isn't
• 1:40:10
  a safety net, you know, like you really are, it's never been
• 1:40:12
  very difficult choices and that's okay. First of all, this is this is
• 1:40:15
  not actually true. Before our era, the church had the safety net.
• 1:40:23
  The church was actually better at getting compliance to child support in the fifteen hundreds
• 1:40:30
  than the state is today for whatever reason. But that's like, they had
• 1:40:34
  child support in the fifteen hundreds and the state was responsible for collecting it,
• 1:40:39
  and they were actually pretty good at it. But I presume the church also
• 1:40:42
  would hold yes like a standard as well, and the government incentivizes the opposite.
• 1:40:47
  Yes, Okay. So yeah, okay, judicial norms around not hooking
• 1:40:54
  up with some random guy exists because that's a catastrophic outcome for the mother,
• 1:41:00
  her children, for her family, et cetera. I guess the welfare state
• 1:41:03
  exists. The welfare state can now cushion that blow at a very high cost.
• 1:41:10
  You know, it's still really rough being a single mother dependent on welfare.
• 1:41:14
  It's also true that it probably like removes some of that immediate feedback to
• 1:41:21
  bad norms and therefore allows us to continue thinking that these norms are okay.
• 1:41:28
  And also particularly when, of course, the people who are expressing luxury beliefs,
• 1:41:30
  they're not really worried about their daughters becoming teenager. Okay, so yeah,
• 1:41:36
  so she's basically talking about people who are affulent. They're not worried about
• 1:41:41
  this issue. Well, they support it because that doesn't affect them. It's
• 1:41:44
  like, you know, the anti natalist people, they usually have kids,
• 1:41:47
  they're usually married. You know, the feminists, they're usually married if they're
• 1:41:53
  not political. Lesbians two men and they have kids with them. Actually,
• 1:41:57
  I think that was even a very famous lesbian femine is that married a man
• 1:42:00
  and two I can't remember who it was wasn't working, and that would have
• 1:42:04
  been because I think anyway, No, there was one of the triggeronometry guys
• 1:42:11
  was the guy on the on the left. He shamed deadbeat dads. He
• 1:42:16
  said, he got really upset about it. Okay, I think that we're
• 1:42:19
  getting to that we're getting Oh okay, okay, should I keep playing this
• 1:42:23
  that keep playing single moms or whatever? Right? Because it's her class based
• 1:42:28
  So I agree with you. I also think as well, when it comes
• 1:42:33
  to talking about single moms, we talk about single mums a lot. We
• 1:42:36
  don't talk about the men who know that they have children and have walked away
• 1:42:42
  from their responsibilities. And as someone who used to be a teacher, you
• 1:42:45
  can all drink now I've said it. That used to make me so angry,
• 1:42:51
  except except that we do all the time everyone like, I mean,
• 1:42:58
  it's I don't know where you get this. Why don't we talk about the
• 1:43:00
  men though, because it literally is everywhere, Like almost every commentator that discusses
• 1:43:10
  problems in society that gets it right that there is an issue with single motherhood
• 1:43:15
  that gets it right. Of all of the potential consequences of single motherhood,
• 1:43:20
  what could happen to those children? That gets it right in terms of like
• 1:43:25
  the removal from your own you're sort of like familial ancestry, Like you don't
• 1:43:31
  know your father, but you also don't know your grandfather or your grandmother and
• 1:43:35
  your father's side, or your aunts and uncles, and you don't know where
• 1:43:39
  you come from and all of that. They can get all of those things
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  right and still think of what we need is to hold men responsible. No,
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  what you don't understand is the men that these women are choosing, nine
• 1:43:51
  times out of ten have no interest in being responsible, and the women know
• 1:43:57
  it and they do it anyway. So it's the women who are being irresponsible.
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  They're being irresponsible with their vaginas and that's what they have to choose men
• 1:44:08
  who are going to stick around. Yeah, but here's the other thing,
• 1:44:12
  Okay, and this is maybe what we're seeing in Canada with like drug use.
• 1:44:16
  We take away all the stigma, we make it easy, we pay
• 1:44:20
  for the drugs, and it proliferates. But it's is it there was like,
• 1:44:27
  at what point does government become complicit when it constructs the situation where making
• 1:44:33
  bad choices become sensible Because you're saying women's irresponsibility with their vaginas. But when
• 1:44:42
  you look at the situation that these individuals, these women are in, and
• 1:44:45
  you look at their options, it actually makes sense why they're choosing welfare,
• 1:44:53
  why they're choosing this particular man. So we have constructed a situation where this
• 1:45:00
  is a sensible choice, is what's happening. And we can talk about irresponsibility,
• 1:45:05
  but we've also constructed a situation where the irresponsible choice is become sensible,
• 1:45:14
  all right, And that's I think the big problem. And honestly, as
• 1:45:19
  long as selecting the irresponsible father who's gonna walk away becomes the sensible choice because
• 1:45:29
  somebody else will pay for it, then that's what you're gonna get. And
• 1:45:34
  blaming the dad is ridiculous. Blaming the father is ridiculous because he I guess,
• 1:45:45
  well, first of all, like you were talking about earlier, these
• 1:45:47
  are often criminals. They're not going to give a crap about what your expectations
• 1:45:54
  are as a as a doe, white boy guy. Women are selecting them
• 1:46:00
  because of their criminal status because it's like no in those in those environments where
• 1:46:06
  that happens. So you know, it's like, well, there was no
• 1:46:10
  who went on one of these channels and said who am I going to choose,
• 1:46:15
  Like, I'm going to choose a man who I feel like can protect
• 1:46:18
  me, even though he probably won't bother you. Probably you know, you're
• 1:46:21
  like number baby Mama, number twenty seven, so he doesn't give a crap.
• 1:46:25
  But I would choose a man who feel like he's gonna protect me because
• 1:46:29
  I live in a dangerous environment and you live in a dangerous environment because the
• 1:46:32
  local economy is destroyed, because there is no opportunities for young men because the
• 1:46:39
  government moved in and basically out competed them, so they no longer these young
• 1:46:45
  men no longer have to construct an economy in cooperation with each other, or
• 1:46:49
  no longer have the ability to do so. Right. So, but the
• 1:46:54
  thing is that she's choosing this man because in the absence of a productive economy
• 1:47:00
  where young men are gaining a pro social status, it makes sense to choose
• 1:47:06
  the criminal. I mean, he's the guy with a freaking income. He's
• 1:47:10
  the guy who offers something, even if it's just protection. Well, yeah,
• 1:47:15
  he'll protect her kids potentially with violence. Right. So what's astounding to
• 1:47:20
  me is that when we're looking at that situation, you've constructed a situation in
• 1:47:26
  which every single choice that woman is making a sensible and that is the problem.
• 1:47:30
  Well, let's let's finish what he has to say about shaming deadbeat dads.
• 1:47:33
  Let's shame government. Doesn't government shaming? How about that? About that
• 1:47:39
  make me so angry because I could see the damage it did to these kids
• 1:47:43
  having an absent father, or actually even worse, having a dad who one
• 1:47:47
  day wanted to play dad and then for a couple of months couldn't be bothered.
• 1:47:51
  Yeah, I'm just that's usually a walk on dad, and that's usually
• 1:47:56
  like a situationship with a guy who's just playing add for a couple of months.
• 1:48:00
  Yeah. I mean, it's really easy to just blame the men though,
• 1:48:04
  isn't it. Yes, it is. Well, that's the easiest thing
• 1:48:08
  to do. That's why we keep doing it over and over again to doom.
• 1:48:11
  Okay, let's finish this secon segment. It's just a few which is
• 1:48:14
  actually worse than the effects of Yeah it's true, and hey, I mean
• 1:48:18
  the fact that single moms get shamed more than dead beat dads, which I
• 1:48:20
  think generally they do. No drefully does as the ones who hung around that,
• 1:48:28
  No they don't. Oh the wait, the women. What about the
• 1:48:30
  ones who throw their baby in a dumpster? I would imagine of the ones
• 1:48:34
  that allowed their baby to live. Yes, they hung around because they had
• 1:48:39
  to, but there was there's also, like Yujah sant Alison, incentives for
• 1:48:44
  them. Okay, here's the difference. The government pays single single mothers to
• 1:48:50
  exist and it criminalizes deadbeat dads. Let's be honest, like it is you
• 1:48:59
  to be a father is a criminal offense in our penal code. You cannot
• 1:49:05
  tell me in that context that dead be are men who men who are not
• 1:49:14
  in the household with their children are not stigmatized more. Okay, it is
• 1:49:20
  not a criminal offense to be a single mother. And what I mean by
• 1:49:24
  it is a criminal offense to be a single father is that the government will
• 1:49:30
  fine you if you are a single father. They will find you well,
• 1:49:35
  they will take money from you, right because you're a single father, and
• 1:49:43
  they will uphold none of your rights to your child, so they'll take money
• 1:49:46
  from you. That is I mean, before we had justice systems, before
• 1:49:50
  we had prisons, finds were how a society applied a criminal punishment to people
• 1:49:58
  it considered to be wrongdoers. So we treat single fathers like wrongdoers, right.
• 1:50:04
  I mean there's even cases where men who have the children have to pay
• 1:50:09
  regardless. So we treat that as like a class of wrongdoers. We treat
• 1:50:13
  them like criminals. And then we take that money and we add to it
• 1:50:17
  and we give it to the women. So we are treating the women single
• 1:50:23
  mothers like paid government employees and single fathers like criminals. And somehow that is
• 1:50:29
  not stigma enough or that for whatever reason, we're stigmatizing the thing that we
• 1:50:36
  don't regard as criminal, which is being a single mom, and we're not
• 1:50:41
  stigmatizing the thing that we do regard which is criminal, which is being a
• 1:50:45
  father who does not take responsibility financial responsibility for his children's Let's be honest,
• 1:50:49
  that is considered a crime. That is considered a crime, and yet we
• 1:50:57
  don't stigmatize it enough. Right, Okay, that's ridiculous. But the other
• 1:51:02
  thing is that we are paying for this, we're paying for single mothers to
• 1:51:11
  exist. Who knows what would happen if we stop paying. Maybe they'd leave
• 1:51:15
  their kids to the father. But but it's it's like this this let's let's
• 1:51:20
  not like, let's get away from single mom shaming. And single dad shaming.
• 1:51:25
  Let's just shame the government for constructing this whole shit shitty scenario in the
• 1:51:29
  first place. M hm, let's just shame the idiots and government. All
• 1:51:34
  right, let's uh just well, the other thing I was going to say
• 1:51:40
  is that judging from the statistics, there may be a heck of a lot
• 1:51:43
  of men who didn't even have any choice in the conception of the child too.
• 1:51:47
  Yeah, like what about them? Oh yeah, men have no choice.
• 1:51:54
  So if they get raped then and they don't want to pay for the
• 1:51:58
  resultant baby because it was a race baby, that doesn't matter, They're going
• 1:52:02
  to be criminals because of that. Like a guy can be a criminal because
• 1:52:06
  he got raped. This is freaking astounding to me. Could be treated like
• 1:52:11
  a criminal because he got raped. But men also don't have any option to
• 1:52:15
  walk away from children they don't want. Women do. So every child survived
• 1:52:23
  their mother saying well I could have an abortion or came about because a woman
• 1:52:28
  said, well, I'm not going to avail myself with the affair of the
• 1:52:30
  entire buffet of reproduct or contraceptive options that are available to me that are reversible,
• 1:52:36
  right, you know. That's so that child was wanted on some level
• 1:52:41
  by the woman. Can't say the same about the man. Okay, And
• 1:52:45
  that's what's really funny about this whole conversation about forced natalism, Like we already
• 1:52:50
  do it to men. True, all right, what's the next uree?
• 1:53:00
  Is this the last one? Yep? The last one? What's wrong?
• 1:53:10
  I don't know, it's I got to refresh. Oh boy, And then
• 1:53:13
  we're going to get an ad. Yeah no, no, no, we
• 1:53:16
  didn't get an ad. Just fine. Well, you know what, I
• 1:53:20
  could probably just say what it is, No, I got it, I
• 1:53:23
  got it. Really, I've maybe become there were certain things that I waived
• 1:53:29
  on in the book, so, you know, to summarize very briefly,
• 1:53:31
  like the argument of the book is that sexual revolution, is often presented by
• 1:53:35
  progressives, has been unambiguously good for women. My argument is, actually there's
• 1:53:39
  been costs to women and to men in lots of important ways, and that
• 1:53:44
  there's wisdom in some old sexual norms which we've thrown out the window post sexual
• 1:53:48
  revolution, and actually, like there's a lot to be said for resurrecting them.
• 1:53:53
  So marriage is one example that actually marriage is really good for protecting the
• 1:53:58
  interest of women and children. A lot of ways, And Okay, is
• 1:54:03
  that it? Yeah, that's it. So that's basically where we started with
• 1:54:06
  all of that. And I think we went through all of the issues,
• 1:54:11
  all of the things that are annoying to me in this. Yeah. I
• 1:54:16
  don't know where people get off thinking that single like fathers who don't pay for
• 1:54:20
  their kids aren't subject to more stigma than single moms. They certainly are,
• 1:54:27
  even though in many cases they had absolutely no say in the production of the
• 1:54:31
  child. And I mean no say as in yeah, flat out raped.
• 1:54:39
  Yeah, you know, and and then also like what what were the other
• 1:54:45
  things that they were talking about? It's just you know what, we go
• 1:54:47
  we went through it. Let's not go through it again. I think that's
• 1:54:50
  good. We can do a part two. They talk about Rome and talk
• 1:54:55
  about Rome later on, so you might go to, yah, you might
• 1:54:58
  better get your fix your fix of Rome. They mentioned Rome briefly, so
• 1:55:03
  there's that, Yeah, but they go to a little bit more later.
• 1:55:06
  So, Okay, I think I've talked a lot. I think I did
• 1:55:10
  most of the talking. But that's what we were aiming for, right,
• 1:55:12
  Okay, so we're hoping for let's do the things. We got a super
• 1:55:15
  chat, we got a super childhood. Oh you should read it? Yeah,
• 1:55:19
  okay, okay, all right. Richard Beer gives us five dollars,
• 1:55:23
  says and says. So Allison says that we would need four additional earths to
• 1:55:27
  be able to supply the resource demands of women. Perhaps we can order one
• 1:55:30
  from Amazon, one from Ali Baba, one from ten Mu, which,
• 1:55:33
  depending on their promotion, might be free, and one from Ikea, which
• 1:55:36
  would be delivered in a flat pack that would have to be assembled by the
• 1:55:40
  recipient. Recipient. It will come with a lot of screws and several specially
• 1:55:44
  he specialty hex and Torques wet wrenches that aren't available anywhere else though, And
• 1:55:51
  of course the men will have to put that one together. Yeah. Then
• 1:55:55
  the thing is the men will have to put it all together, but get
• 1:55:58
  no credit for it and won't be considered more attractive by the women. No
• 1:56:03
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• 1:56:06
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