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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 9 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May nine. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: and now Jacksonville's most promising unsigned rookie free agents. J P.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Joe welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on
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Speaker 1: this Thursday. J P. Shaddrick, Jeff Logman, Tony Boselli is
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Speaker 1: in roots. We're told we'll see if he gets here.
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Speaker 1: When he gets here, and the show starts at four o'clock, right,
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Speaker 1: it just started. I mean, in fact, yes, what part
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Speaker 1: of that didn't you understand? He's only been doing it
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Speaker 1: for how long have we been at four o'clock now?
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Speaker 1: About a year? A couple of years, about a year.
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Speaker 1: It's glad he's gonna be here. I mean, that's that's
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Speaker 1: step one. Will he be here on time? We'll work
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Speaker 1: on that plenty to get to tonight. Some breaking news
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Speaker 1: this afternoon. We'll start with Telvin Smith's Instagram announcement. That's
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Speaker 1: the biggest news of the day. Rookies arriving as well.
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Speaker 1: They're making their way into Jacksonville today last night, some
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Speaker 1: of them. We'll get into some of those guys positions
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Speaker 1: to watch which one of these undrafted guys could make
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Speaker 1: the team and at what position? We'll go around the
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Speaker 1: National Football League. Let's start today with news that came
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Speaker 1: just about thirty minutes ago or so, and Telvin Smith
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Speaker 1: put out an Instagram announcement and it is a long one.
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Speaker 1: At Kelvin Smith five zero on Instagram. It was said
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Speaker 1: to me from a great coach that in order to
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Speaker 1: be for the man to be his best, he must
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Speaker 1: get his world in order. At this time, I must
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Speaker 1: take time away from this game and get my world
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Speaker 1: in order. I must give this time back to myself,
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Speaker 1: my family, and my health. I appreciate all the support
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Speaker 1: I will and will not get. I just ask you
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Speaker 1: all respect my decision to not play football this season.
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Speaker 1: I know the rumors of trade talk came about, but
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Speaker 1: I started my career in Jacksonville, and the day I
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Speaker 1: do decide to call it quits, it will be right
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Speaker 1: here and do well. I love you all, and even
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Speaker 1: in my time off, it's ten toes down. You feel me.
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Speaker 1: Love end quote from Telvin Smith. Now, I've been told
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Speaker 1: that there has been no contact between Telvin himself and
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Speaker 1: the organization even up to this point, that this announcement
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Speaker 1: today about thirty minutes ago, was the first they had
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Speaker 1: really heard about this crazy, right, amazing. Uh, you kind
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Speaker 1: of you start to kind of put the pieces together
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Speaker 1: a little bit. You had the cryptic comments by Dave
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Speaker 1: the draft, the comments by Doug Morons said that he
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Speaker 1: had no contact with Telvin, and then last week Telvin
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Speaker 1: came out with the audio. I didn't see the video,
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Speaker 1: but I heard a number of different videos and and
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Speaker 1: they were kind of, uh, what's the right word. They
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Speaker 1: weren't focused. They were kind of a little bit all
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Speaker 1: over the map, I think is a way to kind
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Speaker 1: of put it. And so your first reaction there as well,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just like in social
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Speaker 1: media worlds sometimes it's hard to make or to come
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Speaker 1: to some type of conclusion off of something that you
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Speaker 1: see that is a little bit all over the map. Well,
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Speaker 1: then you see this and it makes you wonder what
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Speaker 1: does a couple of things. One is is that when
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Speaker 1: a player makes an announcement that he needs to take
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Speaker 1: time off a lot of times or it has happened
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Speaker 1: in the past where it means that something's coming down
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Speaker 1: from the league to prohibit that player or to keep
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Speaker 1: from from playing. Anyway, I'm not saying that's the case.
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Speaker 1: That's the same that That's something that came to my mind.
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Speaker 1: Option number two is is what the things that we're
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Speaker 1: kind of all over the map and some of the
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Speaker 1: things that he said last week, is that there is
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Speaker 1: some personal problems going on. Uh Is it uh? Mental?
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Speaker 1: Is it uh some type of family issue that's extremely extremely,
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Speaker 1: uh confusing, disconcerting, all those terms. And then the other
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Speaker 1: thing is is there some type of subs tense abused
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Speaker 1: going on that he needs to take time away from
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Speaker 1: the game because he needs to address this problem. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. All I know is is that when a
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Speaker 1: player comes out and says that what he said today
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Speaker 1: and there's been no communication to anybody in this organization,
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Speaker 1: those are the I don't want to say you jump
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Speaker 1: to conclusions, but those are the things that start popping
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Speaker 1: into your mind, and I think to think that it's
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Speaker 1: not it's not wrong. I think it's realistic. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if we'll ever know the truth, but it's certainly
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Speaker 1: number one in first and foremost you're concerned about tell
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Speaker 1: them we all like Telvin, I like the guy concerned
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Speaker 1: about him from a from a mental standpoint, from a
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Speaker 1: physical standpoint. You said he posted a video at some
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Speaker 1: point where he was just walking down Beach Bovard last
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Speaker 1: week somewhere. Um nah, that those aren't things that you
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Speaker 1: would expect to see out of somebody. That is okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that one are the key lines in this And we're
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Speaker 1: gonna break this down a little bit here. We're not
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Speaker 1: gonna delve too deep into we're not psychical grammatically, but
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Speaker 1: he said he wants I must give this time back
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Speaker 1: to myself, my family, and my health. Those are three
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Speaker 1: key points he made in one sentence there in the
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Speaker 1: middle of this thing. That mental health is that physical health?
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Speaker 1: And I don't know the answer to that. But if
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Speaker 1: it's physical health, typically, look you're here to get treatment
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Speaker 1: or have the doctors, the great medical staff that is
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Speaker 1: available to you through the organization, you would take advantage
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Speaker 1: of that. So when it's personal health, I have a
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Speaker 1: feeling that that's not physical, that that may be mental.
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to decipher something here now. I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying I know anything. Keep going all right? Uh? And
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Speaker 1: then you know he's not gonna play football this season?
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Speaker 1: He says, what does that mean from a football perspective
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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars? Now? Can they is the contract frozen?
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Speaker 1: Can they get some money back for the cap um
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Speaker 1: do they pay him at all? What happens with this,
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Speaker 1: First and foremost, you you don't cut Telvin. He's still
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Speaker 1: on the team. You wait and see what happens. Further,
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Speaker 1: you do take steps at some point to try to
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Speaker 1: recover the guaranteed money that you gave him when he
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Speaker 1: signed his extension. And people say, well, how much can
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Speaker 1: they get back? Well, first of all, they're not going
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Speaker 1: to pay him a salary this year if he's not
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Speaker 1: playing football. Uh. Number two is is the signing bonus recuperation.
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Speaker 1: Let's say he signed and I'm just making this basic
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Speaker 1: just so it's simple so people can understand. Let's say
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Speaker 1: he signed a five year a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: he signed a five year extension that had five million
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Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. And let's say he performed what two years
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Speaker 1: so far that extension that he had. Let's say he
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Speaker 1: ended up, you know, working two of those years. So okay,
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Speaker 1: so we got two million as essentially was earned. The
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Speaker 1: remaining three million the team can now make the move
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Speaker 1: to recoup that remainder of money, which is about three million.
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Speaker 1: That's so I don't know exactly the length of his contract.
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Speaker 1: I don't know the guarantees that he had, but the
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Speaker 1: team now can try to recoup the guaranteed portion of
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Speaker 1: his Money's all right, we've got some the breaking news here.
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Speaker 1: The team has put out a statement that they will
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Speaker 1: not have a comment about Telvin Smith's statement at this time.
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Speaker 1: They need to have a conversation with Telvin to understand
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Speaker 1: the situation and circumstances if there's a way we the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars can support him. We need to understand that that's
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Speaker 1: officially from the Jaguars, just moments ago, brought in from
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Speaker 1: the PR department. Uh, And that is just that's at
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Speaker 1: the four oh seven, just now handed to us here
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Speaker 1: in the studio, and that's the thing to say. But
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Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes also, and you're not gonna
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Speaker 1: talk about it. You are gonna, I think you're would
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Speaker 1: be crazy not to address the other parts of it
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Speaker 1: from a contractual standpoint. Look here, you still have a
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Speaker 1: job to do, and that's play football games and win
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Speaker 1: football games. And so you need to do what's best
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Speaker 1: for the organization, best for this football team, and if
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Speaker 1: that includes getting moneies back from Telvin Smith, so that
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Speaker 1: you can apply that to someoy else who you could
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Speaker 1: maybe acquire and in free agency or whatever, you take
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Speaker 1: those steps. Let me ask you now, moving ahead, if
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Speaker 1: Telvin indeed does not play football this year for this
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Speaker 1: football team, which this is thirty eight minutes old right now, Um,
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Speaker 1: what happens is there? Who's who's going a week side?
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Speaker 1: Who's playing his position? All right, let's let's just assume
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Speaker 1: he's out. I mean he's out. There's and I think
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Speaker 1: from a team standpoint, with what was said by Telvin today,
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Speaker 1: I think you're pretty much operating as if he's not available.
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Speaker 1: Number one. I think you take Miles jack and move
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Speaker 1: him to weak side, I think that's his natural position anyway,
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Speaker 1: and allow him to do that. You still keep him
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Speaker 1: in front of the huddle calling the plays and everything else,
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Speaker 1: because that's what he did last year. Allow him to
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Speaker 1: continue to do that. I think the will linebacker is
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Speaker 1: built for a guy that has the mobility and the
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Speaker 1: speed and the range like Telvin has, and also like
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Speaker 1: Myles jackass, so he you had to take a pick
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Speaker 1: of getting somebody that's less mobe, but you want to
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Speaker 1: have them play the mike position. So who plays the
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Speaker 1: mic position? Could it be the newly signed linebacker. Was
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Speaker 1: it Ryan Grant? Jake Ryan? Excuse me, Jake Ryan? Could
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Speaker 1: be the Green Bay Packers free agent that you got
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Speaker 1: who was injured in green Bay comes here. Maybe he
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Speaker 1: plays the mike. Could it be uh Williams, the draft
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Speaker 1: pick that you got. I think it could be a
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Speaker 1: combination of all of them. You know, could Leon Jacob
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Speaker 1: see a little bit of time at mike. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if that's the answer, but you're gonna try to
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Speaker 1: find some combination of the guys that you have. And and
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Speaker 1: and here's the other thing. That's that all the free
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Speaker 1: agents that you signed a couple of weeks ago, when
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Speaker 1: people were even speculating more about what was going on
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Speaker 1: with Lvin Smith, what would happen with Kelvin Smith. So
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Speaker 1: that was what four veteran one was off of waivers.
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Speaker 1: Three of them were free agents that were signed. Let
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Speaker 1: all those guys compete and and see where see where
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Speaker 1: they're at. And all those guys are veteran players in
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Speaker 1: the league. They've been in the league for a number
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Speaker 1: of year, in some instances for six seven years. Not
10:02
Speaker 1: like they're bringing guys that are so young in here.
10:05
Speaker 1: I mean, there's guys that they're not gonna they're not Greenhorns,
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Speaker 1: but ways a pro bowler on special teams, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he has a little bit of experience and success in
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Speaker 1: the league. But as a team, you you move forward,
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Speaker 1: You do the best you want to help him, and
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Speaker 1: then you move forward at the same Yeah. So, and
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Speaker 1: the league has the league as a whole, and the
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Speaker 1: team as a whole has a lot of resources. That's
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Speaker 1: why it's kind of confusion as to why Telvin has
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Speaker 1: chosen not to communicate with the team. Look, if you're
10:34
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get better, your best option is
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Speaker 1: to utilize the resources of the National Football League in
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. It doesn't mean that you go out
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Speaker 1: on your own and try to figure it out. That
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Speaker 1: that's not smart. The smart thing to do is if
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Speaker 1: you truly want to get better, if you truly want
10:54
Speaker 1: to get better, it's it's on a platter. The NFL
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Speaker 1: is gonna give it to you on a plan, or
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Speaker 1: the team's gonna give it to you on a platter.
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Speaker 1: Trying to do it on your own, I think it
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Speaker 1: is is futile. Why why would you try to do it?
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Speaker 1: All these resources m that that part I don't understand.
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Speaker 1: But as as an organization, you're treating this right now,
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Speaker 1: like Telvin Smith just had a season ending injury. We
11:23
Speaker 1: don't know if he can ever play again. We need
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Speaker 1: to move forward. I mean, you're not gonna say that
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Speaker 1: because it kind of comes off it's harsh and Orment
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Speaker 1: just brought in here to us as well. They go,
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Speaker 1: they gotta understand the situation a little bit more when
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Speaker 1: they finally do, if they finally talk to Telvin, find
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Speaker 1: out really what's going on again? And I want to
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Speaker 1: repeat this. That's the thing that I don't understand is
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Speaker 1: that if you're trying to get better, let me let
11:50
Speaker 1: me see the statement that he had again, because I
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Speaker 1: know you wrote it down. I want you to pull
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Speaker 1: that up again. Yes, okay, pull that up, read it
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Speaker 1: to me again, nead it to me and start and
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Speaker 1: let's put it back up. If we put it back
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Speaker 1: dot com here's the full statement from Telvin Smith about
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Speaker 1: three thirty or so around that window today. It's a
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Speaker 1: long one. It was said to me from a great
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Speaker 1: coach that in order for the man to be his best,
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Speaker 1: he must get his world in order. At this time,
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Speaker 1: I must take away from this game and get my
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Speaker 1: world in order. I must give this time back to myself,
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Speaker 1: my family, and my health. Stop. Yes, okay, that line
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Speaker 1: right there. I must get my world in order to
12:27
Speaker 1: take time away from the game. I must give this
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Speaker 1: time back to myself, my family, and my health. Let
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Speaker 1: me read a statement to the Jaguars, but just put
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Speaker 1: out just now. The Jaguars have put this out. We
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Speaker 1: will not have a comment about Telvin's Telvin Smith's statement
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Speaker 1: at this time. We need to have a conversation with Telvin.
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Speaker 1: Understand the situation and the circumstances. If there is a
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Speaker 1: way we can support him, we need to understand that.
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Speaker 1: So he he is essentially saying that he needs time
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Speaker 1: to get his world in order, but he's not communicating
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Speaker 1: with the team to take advantage of resources that are
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Speaker 1: available to him. I don't understand that. I don't That
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Speaker 1: to me, is is very confusing, and I think that
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Speaker 1: should be one of the main reasons to be concerned
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Speaker 1: about Telvin. I mean for his well being absolutely, and
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Speaker 1: he's announced today that he's no longer gonna be not
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Speaker 1: gonna play football this season with the Jaguars. The Jags
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Speaker 1: have put out a statement without a comment about Talvin
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Speaker 1: without further information, And that's the latest we have as
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Speaker 1: of right now on the Telvin Smith situation. Yeah crazy,
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Speaker 1: And again the team is he's the defensive captain. Last year,
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Speaker 1: the team wants to, I mean looked at Tevin. He
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Speaker 1: has been a captain. He has been a good football
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Speaker 1: player for this organization. Telvin has been very well liked.
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Speaker 1: Last year. I wouldn't say it was his best year
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Speaker 1: as a professional. I think on the field or I
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Speaker 1: think in the locker room wasn't his best year. And
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Speaker 1: I think there's people that are legitimately concerned about him.
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Speaker 1: But but I just don't understand that if he has
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Speaker 1: those people that are concerned for him in the organization
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Speaker 1: and the resources that are available him to not to
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Speaker 1: not communicate with anybody, It's just it just doesn't make
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Speaker 1: any sense. But he's such a unique player to step
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Speaker 1: away from the personal issues and the personal person himself.
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Speaker 1: Telvin is a great football player because he has to
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Speaker 1: speed to do things that a lot of linebackers in
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Speaker 1: the league just can't do. He can can carry a
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Speaker 1: deep over route like a defensive back would do at
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Speaker 1: times and not even break a sweat doing it. He
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Speaker 1: doesn't struggle to do that. He is an incredible playmaker.
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Speaker 1: He has a wide range of plays that he's made
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years that have been above
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Speaker 1: and beyond tackles. Yes, he misses tackles. Yes, he led
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Speaker 1: the league in miss tackles last year. I understand that.
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Speaker 1: But interceptions, cause fumbles, fumble recoveries, interceptions, touchdowns. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he does all the things that you would expect a
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Speaker 1: big play linebacker to do. And he's two hundred eight pounds.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's not big. Whatever you want to call it,
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Speaker 1: it's incredible and it's it's a it's a significant loss
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Speaker 1: to a team. But again, as I said, you treat
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Speaker 1: it like he was here working out. He hurt himself
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Speaker 1: and now he's gone for the year, and as an organization,
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Speaker 1: you have a business to run. You move forward. I
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Speaker 1: wonder if this doesn't change at some point, does he
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Speaker 1: reverse and say I'm coming back? Does he get things
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Speaker 1: in order in times? Is that? I don't who knows.
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Speaker 1: We just don't see that. We just don't know. It's possible.
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Speaker 1: It's possible. I mean, it's totally and is the what
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Speaker 1: he put out is it? Is it a call for help.
15:56
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, could this completely be a
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Speaker 1: one eight a week from now. Maybe? But when you
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Speaker 1: when you say something like that and the actions leading
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Speaker 1: up to that statement being released, do you see any
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Speaker 1: chance of something changing here? It seemed like a spur
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Speaker 1: of the moment. Oh, I'm just gonna quit playing football today.
16:17
Speaker 1: History has shown that that doesn't change, right, So what
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Speaker 1: kind of out again? I think a lot of people
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Speaker 1: can if they've seen what he said in the past
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, if they've seen what he's put out
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Speaker 1: or heard about what he's put out on Instagram or
16:35
Speaker 1: whatever it was, what was Instagram or Instagram stories, mainly
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Speaker 1: the and then now you you and you see what
16:42
Speaker 1: the team has said before, and then you see what
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Speaker 1: Telvin has said today, you see the team's response. Anybody
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Speaker 1: that's got any logical part of their body is not
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Speaker 1: going to think that this is going to dramatically change
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Speaker 1: next week. It's just it's very, very concerning, all right,
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Speaker 1: Telvin Smith today announcing that he will not play football
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Speaker 1: this season. Plenty still to come here on Jaguars Happy Hour,
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Speaker 1: I went back earlier this week and I watched Josh
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21:46
Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifty some odd plays where he's
21:49
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22:05
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22:10
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Speaker 1: if he'd been able to rush more? I hear. I
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be Honestly, I think he will be
22:22
Speaker 1: a legitimate candidate for Defensive Rookie of the Year. I
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22:28
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22:30
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Here that based on math, that had pretty good, right,
22:35
Speaker 1: pretty good? A little thinking of Josh Allen. All the
22:40
Speaker 1: rookies will be on the field tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday.
22:43
Speaker 1: Rookie Man, he camp close to the public, close to
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Speaker 1: the media, closed to everybody. Yes, we'll have some media
22:48
Speaker 1: coverage Allen and Jowan, Taylor and Doug Marone scheduled to
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22:55
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22:58
Speaker 1: then Doug Maron will get asked about Lvin Smith in
23:01
Speaker 1: all the situation today announcing on Instagram that he's not
23:05
Speaker 1: playing football this year. Tony, what do you think? UM,
23:09
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. Because you heard what
23:12
Speaker 1: I said, agree or disagree? Tell me again, because I
23:15
Speaker 1: was stuck in a car. I basically said that from
23:19
Speaker 1: what we've seen said by Telvin last week, A couple
23:24
Speaker 1: of the Instagram posts that he's had some commentary by
23:28
Speaker 1: Doug Morone and that they've had no contact with him.
23:30
Speaker 1: The cryptic comments by Dave Caldwell is that I don't
23:34
Speaker 1: want to say anybody is shocked by this number. I
23:38
Speaker 1: I I still think from what I've understood and inquired,
23:42
Speaker 1: that nobody in this building has any idea. And the
23:46
Speaker 1: first glimpse they got of it was the Instagram. Right,
23:50
Speaker 1: there's been no contact. I actually don't I think they
23:54
Speaker 1: are shocked now, But Jeff, they let me ask you
23:59
Speaker 1: a question. Players disappear and do crazy stuff. All the time. Yeah,
24:02
Speaker 1: but not like not not ones that wear the C Tony.
24:06
Speaker 1: Let me know, the last time that you've ever even
24:11
Speaker 1: heard of a player has zero contact with anybody, not
24:15
Speaker 1: through the agent, not himself. I haven't heard of that.
24:18
Speaker 1: And then I don't know if I've ever heard of that,
24:20
Speaker 1: and then on Instagram says I'm taking a year off,
24:24
Speaker 1: like so, I don't I think they are shocked now.
24:28
Speaker 1: I think they're highly frustrated that there was no communication
24:31
Speaker 1: forget about what happened just now up until this morning
24:34
Speaker 1: or whenever that was released up to that point. I
24:39
Speaker 1: think they're frustrated, mad what the heck is going on? Thinking,
24:42
Speaker 1: you know, typical player, you know, he's mad about something,
24:45
Speaker 1: whatever it is, whatever the reason. That's normal, Like that's like, okay,
24:51
Speaker 1: that's that happens. What doesn't happen is a guy who's
24:54
Speaker 1: making like seven million dollars a year, like through Instagram
24:59
Speaker 1: without calling the organization or anyone else, says I'm out
25:03
Speaker 1: for the year. I don't know if you think, I like,
25:08
Speaker 1: it's shocking to me. It's shocking that it's gone that far. Yeah,
25:12
Speaker 1: probably that's my point, But but I don't think the
25:14
Speaker 1: team is surprised given what they've seen or the lack
25:18
Speaker 1: of what they've seen so far. I think they're shocked
25:20
Speaker 1: by the car. I think they're shocked by the fact
25:23
Speaker 1: that he is saying he's gonna sit out a year
25:25
Speaker 1: without communicating with them first. I think the team has
25:29
Speaker 1: made preparations that maybe play both sides, because last week
25:35
Speaker 1: both of you and I said that they I'm just
25:36
Speaker 1: saying at this point, there's nothing that you can make
25:39
Speaker 1: of it. But in hindsight you would say, I mean, look,
25:42
Speaker 1: you you draft a guy, which is Look, I think
25:44
Speaker 1: that was totally didn't have anything to do with Tellvin.
25:47
Speaker 1: But I think the multiple signings that you had a
25:49
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, that was a little bit of
25:53
Speaker 1: a wake up calling. I don't think it's a wake
25:54
Speaker 1: up I think they may be protect that's that's what
25:57
Speaker 1: it is. Wasn't a wake up. It was a team saying, look,
26:00
Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on here. We need we
26:02
Speaker 1: need to cover. Let me tell you who you're starting.
26:04
Speaker 1: Will is right now, the kid from Murray State. No Miles,
26:07
Speaker 1: Jack and you moved Jake grinded Mike. Yeah, I think
26:09
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, but here's the thing that I said,
26:15
Speaker 1: and that when when somebody makes a statement like that,
26:18
Speaker 1: what's your first reaction? First of all, your first reaction
26:20
Speaker 1: is the concern I worried about him, concerned about the
26:23
Speaker 1: individual one And I think that's what the team, with
26:26
Speaker 1: their release that they just put out has has implicated
26:29
Speaker 1: that they're concerned about him, no doubt. Number Two is
26:32
Speaker 1: that you know, the first thing you want to do
26:34
Speaker 1: after you get past that point is as you start
26:36
Speaker 1: to speculate what could it be players that have done
26:40
Speaker 1: something like this. Number One, you think of, Okay, maybe
26:42
Speaker 1: something's coming down from the league that's going to tell
26:44
Speaker 1: him that he can't play anyway, But the team would happen.
26:47
Speaker 1: Number one, if it was a year long, that means
26:49
Speaker 1: you would be already in the program. Because the first offensive,
26:52
Speaker 1: any drug, whether it's a p D, the first street
26:57
Speaker 1: drug you get nothing, you get putting the program. The
26:59
Speaker 1: second one got popped at the combine. But the second
27:03
Speaker 1: is he in the program? I don't know. But the
27:04
Speaker 1: second one, Jeff, is only four games, four games for
27:07
Speaker 1: street drugs, second one, first one for pds. Four games,
27:12
Speaker 1: Like the team would have an idea if that was it,
27:16
Speaker 1: Like we've lived through that person before. Yea, here here,
27:21
Speaker 1: let me go back to this. I didn't say that
27:23
Speaker 1: it was some type of substance abuse. I'm saying it
27:25
Speaker 1: could have been something else that's unrelated. But that would
27:29
Speaker 1: but the team would know that as well. No, that
27:31
Speaker 1: not necessarily. The other point would be is that maybe
27:34
Speaker 1: there is some type of substance that is involved and
27:38
Speaker 1: is having a problem. I mean, those are things that
27:40
Speaker 1: you just flashed through your mind. But let's say I
27:42
Speaker 1: don't even want to speculate. It's unfair to televin at
27:44
Speaker 1: this point, and it's just not unfair to tell. Then
27:47
Speaker 1: would that be unfair to tell? Then? Well, when I
27:48
Speaker 1: say unfair to any individual, because you know, you start speculating,
27:51
Speaker 1: people listening to us, they can always it a drunk thing.
27:53
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a drunk thing. We don't know. Nobody knows,
27:56
Speaker 1: but you can speculate all you want. Well, fair enough,
27:58
Speaker 1: I guess that's what we do. But you would typically
28:01
Speaker 1: if it was a drug issue that the league had
28:04
Speaker 1: nothing to do. But he's struggling, like with a lot
28:06
Speaker 1: of people, do like at that point you go to
28:09
Speaker 1: the team because they want to help you get through it.
28:11
Speaker 1: I just said, just to JP a minute ago because
28:14
Speaker 1: he said that he needs the time to help himself.
28:19
Speaker 1: And I've made the statement that the team in the
28:22
Speaker 1: league have the most resources that anybody and let me
28:26
Speaker 1: stop you, right, more than anybody. Okay, forget the resources
28:28
Speaker 1: and who has what resources? If that's the issue, and
28:31
Speaker 1: he's getting good advice, and I'll tell you what worries
28:34
Speaker 1: me trying to say this. He's supposed to make seven
28:36
Speaker 1: million dollars this year or six whatever it is. You
28:40
Speaker 1: go talk to the team because then you get to
28:42
Speaker 1: help and you still get paid. No, I'm just telling
28:46
Speaker 1: you that comment, sense, I mean, think of it, Jef,
28:48
Speaker 1: Come on, you're not wrong. The money is not even
28:51
Speaker 1: I don't even think it is the firstest thing from
28:53
Speaker 1: Telvin's mind. But man, it's on your mind because it's
28:56
Speaker 1: a lot of money. And look, I get that, listen.
28:58
Speaker 1: I know I've known enough people when you're when you're
29:00
Speaker 1: having issues like apparently, tell then is the money you're
29:03
Speaker 1: not even thinking. That's why I don't think it's a substance,
29:05
Speaker 1: because it was a substance that people around him would
29:08
Speaker 1: be telling him, hey, listen, let's get some help. I
29:09
Speaker 1: don't know, tell the team and let's make sure you
29:12
Speaker 1: telling just telling have anybody around him right now. And
29:14
Speaker 1: those are the things you don't You don't know the
29:16
Speaker 1: basic salary this year acording your spot track nine point
29:19
Speaker 1: seven five okay from nine point seven five millions, Like
29:22
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you're going get like like please,
29:25
Speaker 1: if it is a substance abuse, people have you go
29:28
Speaker 1: tell the team because you get paid. People have issues.
29:31
Speaker 1: They're not thinking about the money. That's okay, Jeff, But
29:34
Speaker 1: that's where you go to the next level of what
29:36
Speaker 1: other issues, whether it's a mental health issue or something
29:38
Speaker 1: like that. That's the part that's what you get. You
29:41
Speaker 1: get scared, you get worried about it. And that's a
29:45
Speaker 1: real issue that a lot of people deal with. And
29:48
Speaker 1: you don't want that on anybody. And so and we're
29:50
Speaker 1: speculating what it could be. I have no idea. But
29:53
Speaker 1: for somebody, I'm just I know you're saying it's the
29:56
Speaker 1: money or whatever. Let me just tell you something real life.
29:59
Speaker 1: For somebody to walk away from ten million dollars at
30:02
Speaker 1: the prime of their career, something's going on that is major.
30:07
Speaker 1: Well let's talking I'm not just a totally different subject,
30:10
Speaker 1: but but it's similar and that it relates to money.
30:14
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill a guy that was looking at making I mean, well,
30:18
Speaker 1: he's looking at making twenty something million. But all he's
30:21
Speaker 1: gotta do staling straight, narrow, narrow right. He can't he
30:24
Speaker 1: can't correct his own behavior to get to the point
30:27
Speaker 1: to where he could make twenty million dollars a year.
30:29
Speaker 1: Would he not make twenty million dollars a year? Type
30:31
Speaker 1: of player eighteen? But Jeff, But that's so that's to me,
30:37
Speaker 1: that's different. Now, it's different in the sense that I
30:40
Speaker 1: got tyr Ke Hill and he still has not been
30:42
Speaker 1: convicted or anything else. They're in still investigating. We'll see
30:45
Speaker 1: where it plays out. But obviously the tape is disturbing
30:47
Speaker 1: that we've all everything else. But that's obvious a guy
30:50
Speaker 1: that it's not like he decided to walk away. He's
30:54
Speaker 1: been forced. So it's different to me, Like Telvin Smith
30:59
Speaker 1: on his own volition as far as we know, because
31:02
Speaker 1: he hasn't communicated anything else, any other anyone else is
31:05
Speaker 1: walking away from ten million dollars. That's what like is
31:10
Speaker 1: like it just like something is off to think that's
31:18
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, JP, Because like it's guys
31:20
Speaker 1: all the time getting trouble and they're forced to miss
31:23
Speaker 1: out of making money. And to your point, Jeff, it's like,
31:25
Speaker 1: can't you just figure out to make the right choice.
31:27
Speaker 1: Obviously they can't, and it cost him a lot of money.
31:29
Speaker 1: This is somebody does not communicated with his team, His
31:33
Speaker 1: agent has communicated, the team has been radio scient except
31:36
Speaker 1: for some stuff over Instagram and Twitter or whatever else,
31:39
Speaker 1: and is walking away from ten million dollars. Now we've
31:41
Speaker 1: seen it, you know, last year, most notably, a player
31:44
Speaker 1: sit out all year because he wanted a new country.
31:46
Speaker 1: He was different totally, and he was out in the
31:49
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31:53
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31:55
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31:58
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32:01
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32:03
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32:08
Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. No, You've seen guys at
32:11
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32:13
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32:15
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32:18
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32:20
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32:23
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32:25
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32:30
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32:34
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32:40
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Speaker 1: this scenario comes back, you can tell he looks like
38:01
Speaker 1: he's in shape and sits down at the end, said,
38:05
Speaker 1: you know, I where's his mind at? Like, I'm like,
38:09
Speaker 1: you would absolutely take him back as long as you
38:12
Speaker 1: know nothing's happened between you know, now and at that point,
38:16
Speaker 1: because I mean, it's no different than Yeah, I mean
38:18
Speaker 1: I would, he was still too better than the players
38:20
Speaker 1: you have no Well that's no matter what, but I would.
38:25
Speaker 1: I would take him back to But long as the
38:28
Speaker 1: rest of the boxes, you know, we're checked and there's
38:30
Speaker 1: nothing that I mean, I would do some homework. Now. Well,
38:32
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. Yeah, and I mean we're talking
38:36
Speaker 1: about all hypothetical here, but let's say Tuvin walks away
38:39
Speaker 1: like Tony says, he comes back in July and he says, look,
38:42
Speaker 1: I'm ready to report. You have to take him back
38:45
Speaker 1: or release him. Yeah. Yeah, he can force your You
38:47
Speaker 1: have no choice. He can force you. Just say no.
38:51
Speaker 1: You can. You can find him for missing the mandatory
38:54
Speaker 1: mini camp that you had, But as far as far
38:56
Speaker 1: as everything else, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You know,
39:00
Speaker 1: you can't recoup the signing bones or anything else. Walk
39:03
Speaker 1: in the door, and say I'm here, which is why.
39:06
Speaker 1: Like again, if you're tellingn why even announce it? Like
39:10
Speaker 1: if you don't want to play football this year, Like
39:13
Speaker 1: there's no there's no pressure to announce that right now.
39:15
Speaker 1: That just shows you do nothing, just do whatever you want. Mentally,
39:19
Speaker 1: he's not, he's not worried. He's not getting good advice.
39:23
Speaker 1: One of the wh someone's giving him bad advice. If
39:26
Speaker 1: he's getting advice at all, or he's not listening to
39:28
Speaker 1: the which is bad. Maybe he's listening to the bad
39:32
Speaker 1: advice on that from that person inside that you shouldn't
39:35
Speaker 1: take advice from. Everybody's got kind of that person on
39:37
Speaker 1: the inside. It gives them bad advice and they do it.
39:40
Speaker 1: Who's that for you? I know that's you. For me,
39:42
Speaker 1: like it's the advice you give me. I try not
39:44
Speaker 1: to listen to I try not to listen to you. Okay,
39:47
Speaker 1: So we're equally the person inside and not to listen
39:49
Speaker 1: to him. Wow, what a day. It's crazy. An I
39:55
Speaker 1: think he did it just for our show, Like let
39:57
Speaker 1: this have it. I'm glad on there, boy, No, I'm
40:02
Speaker 1: not glad. I hate it because we all like Tellvin
40:07
Speaker 1: as a guy. We like him around the building. He's
40:09
Speaker 1: always been, at least personally for me, a guy I
40:12
Speaker 1: like to talk to and enjoy having around. You know,
40:14
Speaker 1: the one person that I would not be shocked it's
40:16
Speaker 1: already trying to reach out to him. Yeah, I was
40:20
Speaker 1: the same thing. They were very close. Yeah, I wouldn't
40:23
Speaker 1: be surprised that. And by the way, that'd be a
40:26
Speaker 1: person if I was telling talking to tell them, Sith
40:29
Speaker 1: be a good, good guy to listen to. I mean,
40:33
Speaker 1: I listen whether I liked tell them, dislike him or not.
40:36
Speaker 1: It's irrelevant to me. I hate that this happens to anybody.
40:39
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't. I mean, whether it's on our
40:40
Speaker 1: team or anywhere else. It's just whatever is going on,
40:44
Speaker 1: you wish him the best and and uh, I hope
40:46
Speaker 1: he figures it out and it's nothing that's um too
40:50
Speaker 1: serious or you know, it's long term detrimental, whatever it is.
40:55
Speaker 1: You know it's not good, um, and you just wishing
40:58
Speaker 1: but nothing but the best. It's bigger than football that
41:00
Speaker 1: at this point obviously, all right, let's move. By the way,
41:04
Speaker 1: you asked a little while ago, had I had we
41:07
Speaker 1: had ever seen anything like that? And Tony said no,
41:10
Speaker 1: right away. We said, I said no, but but I mean,
41:13
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's the same, but the
41:15
Speaker 1: situation with Justin Blackman. But Jeff, he was suspended from
41:18
Speaker 1: the from by the league reason the only reason I said,
41:24
Speaker 1: try to get reinstated. He That's one of the reasons
41:27
Speaker 1: why I kind of bring it up, and that there
41:28
Speaker 1: was a player that just didn't didn't care to do
41:30
Speaker 1: any take any of the steps to come back to play,
41:32
Speaker 1: and there were steps to come back and play, and
41:35
Speaker 1: he didn't want to play. Justin didn't have two things. One,
41:40
Speaker 1: he didn't want to give up alcohol and that was
41:43
Speaker 1: very clear. Number Two that he had some mental health issues,
41:48
Speaker 1: and he just he walked away from the game millions.
41:51
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about it, but he might not
41:52
Speaker 1: have loved the game either. Maybe not. But I mean,
41:55
Speaker 1: that's the one thing we forget and this in this
41:57
Speaker 1: organization's history though. That's the only other comparison that you
42:01
Speaker 1: could draw to this situation right now. But listen, there's
42:05
Speaker 1: certain you have, in my estimation, to be successful in
42:10
Speaker 1: this league, to play at the level that you want
42:12
Speaker 1: to be great or even good, you have to love
42:15
Speaker 1: the game. It's a hard game. It's difficult, and some
42:18
Speaker 1: guys just don't love it and they like football or
42:22
Speaker 1: it's like okay, it's good, I like like kind of whatever.
42:25
Speaker 1: Some guys just like the paycheck. Well some guy, but okay,
42:28
Speaker 1: but even for the paycheck, you better love the money
42:33
Speaker 1: like a ton because football is hard. And if I
42:36
Speaker 1: think it's a hard game, if you're just like take
42:40
Speaker 1: it or leave it to hang in there and all
42:42
Speaker 1: that it takes, it's it's easier than it used to be.
42:44
Speaker 1: Like it was really hard the old ways is to
42:46
Speaker 1: get through the first two six weeks. But it's a
42:49
Speaker 1: hard game. It's it's physically demanding. It takes a toll
42:52
Speaker 1: in your body. It might even it might I'd argue
42:54
Speaker 1: with you, Tony, that might be harder. Now I disagree.
42:57
Speaker 1: Come on, Jeff, I mean I'm not I'm not talking
43:00
Speaker 1: about from the standpoint of the number of practices and
43:03
Speaker 1: the off season or anything like that. Jeff. You get
43:05
Speaker 1: paid more to do less, harder. But but the give
43:10
Speaker 1: me the one thing, one thing that hasn't changed is
43:15
Speaker 1: that the level of discomfort that you have to play
43:17
Speaker 1: weekend and week out with what what has what has
43:21
Speaker 1: changed is is how medicated that you can be going
43:25
Speaker 1: in the Sunday for today's players compared to when we
43:28
Speaker 1: did that. That is not Don't tell me that, Tony,
43:32
Speaker 1: because you were medicated like a champions like players are today,
43:36
Speaker 1: can't do that. You can, yes, you can still go
43:38
Speaker 1: to your Not like you don't even tell me that.
43:42
Speaker 1: If you're living in the past. You're like a grumpy
43:44
Speaker 1: old It was way harder back when I did it.
43:48
Speaker 1: I don't tell me that the games weren't. No, no,
43:53
Speaker 1: it's just it's actually you could argue some positions aren't
43:56
Speaker 1: as physical as it used to be, but it's still
43:57
Speaker 1: a very physical, demanding games. You say that the game
44:00
Speaker 1: is not as physical as it used to, there's certain
44:02
Speaker 1: parts of that aren't. Jeff, come on, like, okay, if
44:05
Speaker 1: you're the ex player saying that it's still a tough game,
44:10
Speaker 1: I just said that what it was when I did it.
44:12
Speaker 1: But like nowadays, you go across the mill, you're like
44:14
Speaker 1: Keenan Jimmy went across they were getting smoked. You can't
44:18
Speaker 1: lay a finger on You can't do that anymore. Across
44:22
Speaker 1: the field still get hit, like, okay, here's there thing
44:26
Speaker 1: got hit. I didn't say it didn't. There's your your
44:31
Speaker 1: your position. Were you played outside but three techniques not
44:34
Speaker 1: as physical it used to be. Why Okay, let me
44:37
Speaker 1: ask you a question. If you played three technique, would
44:39
Speaker 1: you rather be playing day or then when I could
44:40
Speaker 1: throw on the back of your knees at will with
44:43
Speaker 1: no all Still the repetitive blows are still stick. Some
44:48
Speaker 1: of the cheap shots that you offensive lineman used to
44:51
Speaker 1: use on the defensive lineman. Yeah, that's been outlawed by point.
44:54
Speaker 1: I still think it's the it's obviously the most physical
44:57
Speaker 1: game in the world. I mean, it's it's it's crazy
44:59
Speaker 1: on game day. It's crazy. That has not changed, you know,
45:02
Speaker 1: if I'm talking it's changed, it's that changed a half percent,
45:05
Speaker 1: nothing substantial. But what has changed. We would have to
45:08
Speaker 1: do that on Sundays and then you would have physical
45:11
Speaker 1: violence two more days during the week on Wednesday and Thursday,
45:14
Speaker 1: that you just don't have anymore. That was just us
45:17
Speaker 1: that everybody else. I'm just talking about you and I
45:19
Speaker 1: everybody else pretty good. Think about the recovery periods that
45:23
Speaker 1: they get all week to recover. How much better you
45:26
Speaker 1: would feel on game day. That's all I'm saying, no doubt.
45:29
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45:31
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45:35
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45:38
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45:41
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45:43
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45:45
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Speaker 1: know earlier today on Tinton Excel, it's the Jaguars Today
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Speaker 1: you're not on it. I did the I did the
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Speaker 1: morning show once a week breakfast, right, So that's right. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I've heard that from time to time. But today, Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: could own one piece of memory from Jaguars history, what
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Speaker 1: would you want to own? We're not talking about things
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Speaker 1: that were mass produced. Think of unique items that there
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Speaker 1: maybe only one of. Some answers included, you know, one
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Speaker 1: of the sprinkler heads from the seven Game, Brunel's cleats
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Speaker 1: from the nineties six Denver playoff games, Scramble, you know,
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Speaker 1: the Acts, the Bloody Acts was one. You know, James
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Speaker 1: Smooth Jersey from the little stuff like which does the
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Speaker 1: football that Morton Anderson kicked and missed? One? That would
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Speaker 1: be that would be number one, number one. There was
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Speaker 1: also an answer involving our friend Jeff Loghman today and
51:12
Speaker 1: the answer came on Instagram from DJ from Twitter d
51:15
Speaker 1: d J delfonic the bolo tie logs war that made
51:18
Speaker 1: TC rewrite the rule to cloth ties only. And there's
51:22
Speaker 1: a photograph of log ha' been wearing a bolo tie.
51:25
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the one. But before we
51:27
Speaker 1: get can we talk about please bring that picture back up?
51:31
Speaker 1: Can we talk about the fat in Gorge's face of
51:35
Speaker 1: Jeff lock him in as a younger man, and the
51:38
Speaker 1: cow yes with that hair store nuts for the winner.
51:44
Speaker 1: Look at it. Look at the hair. The hair looks good.
51:49
Speaker 1: I wish, I honestly wish, but you brought the actual
51:54
Speaker 1: bolo type. I think this is it. I'm not positive
51:57
Speaker 1: that this is the one, that it was one of
51:59
Speaker 1: the two. I got two of them that I can't
52:01
Speaker 1: get over the picture. Can I get to copy that
52:03
Speaker 1: picture on my phone? What? What it is? The farest
52:07
Speaker 1: from the the history of this is that, seriously, when
52:12
Speaker 1: we were on a road trip on the Jaguars dress code,
52:15
Speaker 1: you had to wear a tie, and in the wording
52:19
Speaker 1: said specifically, okay now that at that angle said you
52:23
Speaker 1: had to wear a tie. So I did, and I
52:25
Speaker 1: wore it was either this bolo or It was one
52:28
Speaker 1: that my great grandfather had given me, which my great
52:30
Speaker 1: grandfather didn't wear ties, He wore bolos. And so when
52:34
Speaker 1: I wore it. Come back the next week after the
52:36
Speaker 1: road trip, and Tony you know that, you know, we
52:38
Speaker 1: had these white metal stools that were in front of
52:41
Speaker 1: our locker, and there was an envelope on my stool
52:46
Speaker 1: and I opened it up and it's a fine letter
52:49
Speaker 1: from Tom cough and it says that you were in
52:53
Speaker 1: violation of the dress code and you're getting fine out.
52:56
Speaker 1: It was like two hundred bucks or five bucks, whatever
52:58
Speaker 1: it was. There was a couple hundred books. As I
53:02
Speaker 1: take the letter and I go down the hall and
53:06
Speaker 1: uh knock on his door and I said, we we
53:09
Speaker 1: need to talk. And he said what about? I said,
53:12
Speaker 1: what is what is this dress code violation? What are
53:14
Speaker 1: you talking about? He says, Uh, you didn't have a
53:16
Speaker 1: tie on. So I had to educate Tom Coughlin as
53:20
Speaker 1: to what a bolo tie was and explaining my great grandfather,
53:24
Speaker 1: who was fluent in like five different languages, an ambassador,
53:28
Speaker 1: an ambassador to multiple countries published in the Congressional Record,
53:32
Speaker 1: wore a yes, a bolo tie that was more than
53:37
Speaker 1: sufficient to be a very well respected member of our government.
53:42
Speaker 1: Did he did I can't remember. Did he rescind the fine?
53:45
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I know I used to actually remember
53:48
Speaker 1: the day that Logs got the letter because he was hot,
53:52
Speaker 1: he I mean, stormed down there. What was funny is
53:55
Speaker 1: that the next year he changed the wording in the
53:58
Speaker 1: book that said cloth tie, he added the word cloth.
54:03
Speaker 1: Was that the best fine you got is your time here?
54:06
Speaker 1: I got fined, I mean, but was it the best?
54:09
Speaker 1: I know? Well, I mean I got the best. I
54:12
Speaker 1: got fined JP. This is the greatest thing. It wasn't
54:15
Speaker 1: even a rule. I don't even know. Like if I
54:17
Speaker 1: wasn't a rookie, I would have bought it. But I
54:19
Speaker 1: was a rookie, so I just said, I'll just pay
54:20
Speaker 1: the fine. I went down to his office. I got
54:25
Speaker 1: me Novak and Chung got fined for leaving the team
54:31
Speaker 1: meal pregame meal. You didn't eat much because we always
54:38
Speaker 1: ate before. We'd always get up early because we're up
54:41
Speaker 1: and we have a big pancake breakfast that in nine
54:45
Speaker 1: and so like. So let's say team meals at nine
54:48
Speaker 1: seven thirty and we go eat, read the paper, drink coffee,
54:51
Speaker 1: and then we walk into team meeting room check in,
54:53
Speaker 1: check in. I think everyone said a prayer. You stood
54:55
Speaker 1: around the table, said a prayer, and then everyone sat
54:58
Speaker 1: down and we'd go out and catch a cab to
55:01
Speaker 1: the stadium or drive to the stadium, or drive if
55:04
Speaker 1: we're here, and uh like, after doing like six weeks
55:08
Speaker 1: in a row, we get a letter on our stool
55:11
Speaker 1: and it says you've been fine for leaving. And we
55:15
Speaker 1: went down there and I'm like, and I didn't. I
55:18
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna go. I was gonna pay it. But those
55:19
Speaker 1: guys with veterans and said we're going down there. So
55:21
Speaker 1: I just sat there and he basically said, no, you can't.
55:24
Speaker 1: You have to sit down and enjoy your teammates at
55:27
Speaker 1: pregame meal. Like we already ate and we're there. Why
55:32
Speaker 1: and he says, guy, I said, so, it wasn't even
55:33
Speaker 1: the rules. We got fine. And so what we do
55:36
Speaker 1: is after that, we still eat breakfast. Fran go in,
55:40
Speaker 1: sit down, do the prayer, sit down, and grab one banana.
55:46
Speaker 1: Forty five seconds later, after eating a banana, we get
55:48
Speaker 1: up and leave and go to the And that was
55:50
Speaker 1: good enough. I guess there was the banana rule just
55:52
Speaker 1: eat one banana. You're good. Let's go around the National
55:55
Speaker 1: Football League, shall we. The Telvin Smith news is some
55:58
Speaker 1: of the biggest in the league this afternoon, the three thirty.
56:01
Speaker 1: What are people saying? What are the national guys anymore
56:04
Speaker 1: like on the show? Don't saying anything on Twitter and
56:06
Speaker 1: your track. I'm sorry, but that's really some of the
56:11
Speaker 1: biggest news in the league today. And also breaking this
56:13
Speaker 1: afternoon in Seattle, they're partying ways with Doug Baldwin and
56:16
Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor with failed physical designation. No surprise with Cam Chancellor,
56:22
Speaker 1: it was expected that he was Yeah, and then there
56:26
Speaker 1: was talking about Doug Balling having because he had multiple
56:28
Speaker 1: all season surgeries, but there was talk that he may
56:31
Speaker 1: still try to come back and that, but he had
56:34
Speaker 1: a lengthy rehab process. But uh, I don't think either
56:37
Speaker 1: one of those are a surprise, but maybe Balding a
56:39
Speaker 1: little bit that didn't kind of play out a little
56:42
Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, those are two names that have been
56:45
Speaker 1: around there for a guy. But uh, I thought the
56:47
Speaker 1: Seahawks did got a great signing Seahawks one year deal
56:53
Speaker 1: nine million dollars six million guaranteed up to twelve point
56:56
Speaker 1: seven five with bonus. I think taking that I would
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Speaker 1: have taken that here all day long. Oh, I would
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Speaker 1: love to have had him. I mean, I think it's
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Speaker 1: a great deal for Seattle for two reasons. They lose
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Speaker 1: Frank Clark because they trade him to the Chiefs. He
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Speaker 1: gets paid a ton of money and so the Seahawks
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Speaker 1: now don't have to pay that money. They got a
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Speaker 1: first round pick in exchange who they used on a
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Speaker 1: draft pick defensive van and then they signed on in
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Speaker 1: free agency post June one, so now it doesn't count
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Speaker 1: towards contensed story picks or whatever. I thought that was
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Speaker 1: a wise move by the Seahawks. And with all of that,
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Speaker 1: see how the shoulder injury is though for us I
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Speaker 1: think he's healthy, he's not. He's the shoulder, and they're
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Speaker 1: saying that he might not be ready for the beginning
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Speaker 1: of the season, but that they're expecting him to be
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Speaker 1: ready soon into the season if he's not. Apparently they're
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Speaker 1: confident enough to give him a nine million dollar deal
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Speaker 1: for one year. Tight End Benjamin Watson planning to come
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Speaker 1: out of retirement. He's visiting the Patriots. He's thirty eight
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Speaker 1: years old, was with the Saints last year and originally
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Speaker 1: first round picking the Patriots in four. Then he retired
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Speaker 1: from from said he was going to retire after Look,
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Speaker 1: everybody else has showing interest and willing to pay him back.
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Speaker 1: Millions of dollars come back? Why not? The Cowboys have
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Speaker 1: started contract negotiations with Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper. According
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Speaker 1: to Stephen Jones, the executive VP, they're also interested in
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Speaker 1: extending Ezekiel Elliott, but they've got another year so to work.
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Speaker 1: They should be paying him first. He's the most valuable
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Speaker 1: of all of those three year I'm just saying, I
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Speaker 1: know you've got him locked up, and I know that
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Speaker 1: you don't have to pay him, and you should. But
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Speaker 1: but and I wouldn't pay him. I would do exactly
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Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are. I'm just saying, from a players standpoint,
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Speaker 1: he is. He is the most valuable player of those three.
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Speaker 1: Not Zeke kind of makes that thing confused. You said
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Speaker 1: you'd pay him thirty seconds later, I wouldn't pay him.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you, if you were in a true
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Speaker 1: free market system, you would pay him first ahead of
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Speaker 1: the other guy. I would actually never pay him a
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Speaker 1: long term to you, I would franchise him until his
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Speaker 1: seventh year. Oh absolutely, I'm I'm just saying I would
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Speaker 1: go find a younger back. I'm saying is that if
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Speaker 1: all three of those guys were free, he would be
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Speaker 1: the first one that you would pay because he's the
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Speaker 1: most important part of that I don't think I'll say
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Speaker 1: this if they were all free agents right now, Dak
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Speaker 1: Prescott will get paid more than does he Goell. It
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Speaker 1: would be more. Would he be a higher power the quarterback? Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: I don't know what. Zekiel is more important to that
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Speaker 1: team than that quarterback. I got him under contract. They're
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Speaker 1: not touching. They'll do it for us. Thanks Lougs, thanks both.
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Speaker 1: Good to see guys, for Bow and Lens and our
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