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Dirty Rush: How getting dropped from a house really feels…. · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
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  Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice.
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  Speaker 2: Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.
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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Gia Judice, and today we're taking a
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  Speaker 1: walk down memory Lane with a group of graduating seniors
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  Speaker 1: to tell us what they wish they knew before joining
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  Speaker 1: a sorority.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, guys, how's it going good? How are you good?
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 2: What are all your names?
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  Speaker 4: I'm Alex, I'm Reese, and I'm Ellie.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to meet you guys. So what's school do you
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  Speaker 2: guys go to?
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  Speaker 4: We all go to kel poly San Luis obispo so fun.
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  Speaker 2: And what are you guys studying?
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  Speaker 3: Start? Yeah, I'm political science.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Polly Side, that's hard.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was hard.
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  Speaker 1: I was a criminal justice major, so I had to
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  Speaker 1: definitely take a couple of poly side classes.
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  Speaker 3: Criminal justice classes were interesting to.
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  Speaker 1: But they're so fun, Like they're not that hard, They're
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  Speaker 1: just like interesting. It's like you're intrigued by everything Polysai is.
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  Speaker 1: You're learning about all the history and it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of reading. And that was definitely not my forte.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we're both communications.
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  Speaker 2: Oh nice, are you guys excited to graduate?
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  Speaker 5: So we all actually graduated early, but we're we're walk
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  Speaker 5: in June.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, congratulations, Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So what sorority were you guys in.
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  Speaker 4: We're all actually in yeah Alpha ky Omega.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so fun. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So did grief life play a big role in your
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  Speaker 1: college experience?
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  Speaker 5: I would say it did, not, like enough to exile
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  Speaker 5: or isolate from other friends or other girls and other
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  Speaker 5: sororities or even without, but I would say that it
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  Speaker 5: definitely did in the sense that it brought me closer
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  Speaker 5: to girls in different ages. So I like the family
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  Speaker 5: aspect of it I really dove into, and I still
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  Speaker 5: have those friendships with like my g Big and Big,
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  Speaker 5: and I feel like, even recently, with like the job
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  Speaker 5: search aspect of it all, having those connections with girls
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  Speaker 5: that are graduated like a year or two years above
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  Speaker 5: really helped because I would talk to them and like
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  Speaker 5: all of their friends and sort of figure out what
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  Speaker 5: they liked two years postgrad and then that really helped
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  Speaker 5: to discover what I wanted. So in that sense, I
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  Speaker 5: feel like I really appreciated being in that community and
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  Speaker 5: having those resources.
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  Speaker 2: It really is so helpful after graduation.
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  Speaker 5: Especially because it didn't seem like they were scary to
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  Speaker 5: talk to because I was in like a sorority safe
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  Speaker 5: like space with them last time I saw them, so
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  Speaker 5: asking them questions about how to go into it, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't feel like I had to put on a front
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  Speaker 5: and say I knew exactly what I wanted. I more
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  Speaker 5: so was able to be transparent with them because they
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  Speaker 5: knew me as someone that we already had that foundation with.
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  Speaker 1: You know, thinking back to when you guys were in
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  Speaker 1: high school, did Greek play a part in the decision
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  Speaker 1: making process of you guys choosing what school you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to go to?
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  Speaker 3: For me, not really. I feel like my sister also
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  Speaker 3: went to cal Poly, so I like saw her experience
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  Speaker 3: and I just loved like this friends that she made,
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  Speaker 3: and I felt like I wanted to like make those
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  Speaker 3: same kind of connections. So that kind of played a
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  Speaker 3: part in my decision to go to cal Paly.
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  Speaker 6: I remember, because I never wanted to go out of
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  Speaker 6: state for college, Like I was very set I'm from California,
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  Speaker 6: and I said, I'm going to school in California. And
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  Speaker 6: I remember a lot of people from my high school.
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  Speaker 6: Wanted to go to SDSU because it's kind of like
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  Speaker 6: the biggest sorority school in art in like in California,
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  Speaker 6: and so I remember like thinking like not being very
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  Speaker 6: familiar with like the whole sorority thing and like seeing
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  Speaker 6: it just from like what I knew from like social
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  Speaker 6: media or TikTok or whatever, and that being like between
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  Speaker 6: SDSU and when I got into cal Poly, I was like,
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  Speaker 6: oh my gosh, I don't know like what I wanted
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  Speaker 6: to be in a sorority. This is like the Greek
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  Speaker 6: high school. This is the party school. And I feel
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  Speaker 6: like kind of having to almost profile yourself before where
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  Speaker 6: you even pick a college, like wanting to know whether
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  Speaker 6: or not you're going to do that. It was like
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  Speaker 6: kind of a weird experience for sure.
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  Speaker 4: No, yeah, not think similar thing.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't really think about it when deciding to go
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  Speaker 5: into school, But I think after I made the decision
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  Speaker 5: about Paul is when I started to think about, like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: do I want to be in a sorority once I
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  Speaker 5: get there?
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  Speaker 2: Reese.
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  Speaker 1: That is, I feel like pretty normal when you are
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  Speaker 1: going when you're entering college, then that's when you think
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  Speaker 1: about it. But I mean, it really is crazy, especially
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  Speaker 1: when you think about all the schools in the South,
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  Speaker 1: like you were saying on social media and seeing how
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  Speaker 1: you know, looking at Bama Rush and just seeing how
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  Speaker 1: how much more serious other schools really take sorority in
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  Speaker 1: Greek life. You have to think about that when you're
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  Speaker 1: a senior going into college. Whereas when I went into college,
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  Speaker 1: sure I knew what sororities were, I knew they existed.
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  Speaker 1: I knew this might be a fun thing to do
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  Speaker 1: once I entered school, but I never to hear now
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  Speaker 1: doing this podcast, the extent and lengths that girls go
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  Speaker 1: to as seniors before entering college to prepare for what sorority.
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  Speaker 2: They want to be in.
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  Speaker 1: I just I thought, I just it was crazy to
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  Speaker 1: me because that wasn't my experience.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it really blew up after our year
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  Speaker 5: because we are the same year as like Kylin Darnell
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  Speaker 5: at Bama.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's so sweet, like.
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  Speaker 5: Carved her path and made that her whole thing. Every
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  Speaker 5: year after that, I think it got a bigger and
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  Speaker 5: bigger deal. So we were sort of the last year
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  Speaker 5: before it started to really implicate that decision and make
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  Speaker 5: people think about that as seniors.
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  Speaker 6: I also feel like just recruitment in general has like
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  Speaker 6: like a sorority life, and everything is totally taken on
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  Speaker 6: a life of its own, like way more so than
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  Speaker 6: I think it was ever intended to, so that like
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  Speaker 6: pressure is so much heavier on like the years younger
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  Speaker 6: than us and even ourlier than it probably was for
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  Speaker 6: like my mom or with my sisters when they were
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  Speaker 6: in rushing.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent, how did you guys prepare for rush?
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  Speaker 1: What would you do differently knowing what you know now?
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  Speaker 5: I feel like for cal Poly, what we were told
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  Speaker 5: is that it was way more relaxed than any other school,
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  Speaker 5: which obviously going through the process, I was so scared
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  Speaker 5: because sort of similar to how she had a sister
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  Speaker 5: at this school, I had a really close family friend
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  Speaker 5: that was also in a sorority at this school, and
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  Speaker 5: so talking to her about the process really helped. But
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  Speaker 5: she I always like idolized her and looked up to
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  Speaker 5: her because she was so cool. But she was telling
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  Speaker 5: me how she got dropped from a few sororities, and
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  Speaker 5: so I was like, oh, my goodness, if you can
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  Speaker 5: get dropped like I am.
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  Speaker 4: Screwed, And that made me scared, and.
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  Speaker 5: So I think I didn't really know how to prep,
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  Speaker 5: but I was definitely frightened, and I was just like,
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  Speaker 5: how if I'm so nervous going into the conversations, how
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  Speaker 5: can I like put my best foot forward.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I would like call.
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  Speaker 3: My sister every day before rush, which like I'd be
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  Speaker 3: like what do I do like and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 3: but she was like a big help and like it
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  Speaker 3: was just nice to know that it would work out,
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  Speaker 3: like seeing like the older girls and being like okay,
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  Speaker 3: like they have their lives together, like hopefully it'll work out.
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  Speaker 4: For me too.
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  Speaker 2: No, definitely, my little sisters called me too. It was
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  Speaker 2: like the sweetest thing.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like I did very minimal prep. I also
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  Speaker 7: rushed for context.
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  Speaker 6: I rushed as a sophomore, like I joined our sorority
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  Speaker 6: sophomore year. But when I did rush freshman year, I
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  Speaker 6: remember the process. I didn't do any research or anything,
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  Speaker 6: like I just sort of went in blind, and I
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  Speaker 6: think it was significantly more overwhelming, just because I was
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  Speaker 6: really had no idea what was going on, and so
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  Speaker 6: I think I would have maybe phoned a friend and
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  Speaker 6: like gotten a little bit of context or like understanding
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  Speaker 6: of what was going on, because it was very overwhelming,
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  Speaker 6: and it was just like every like debriefing with everybody
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  Speaker 6: in the dorms and all the different things. I remember
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  Speaker 6: being like very anxious and like wishing that I'd prepare
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  Speaker 6: a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: No for sure, I mean, did you transfer into the
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  Speaker 1: school sophomore year or you were you there freshman.
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  Speaker 7: Year, the recruitment freshman year or through part of it?
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  Speaker 6: And then I got sick and then I never joined
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  Speaker 6: Like during the second week, I like mono and I
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  Speaker 6: couldn't talk. So I never joined a sorority. And then
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  Speaker 6: I re rushed sophomore year. I went through more more
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  Speaker 6: groupment again because we don't do a whole cob is
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  Speaker 6: like not a huge thing at Cowbality.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, got it?
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, but rushing as a sophomore, And because
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  Speaker 1: you already kind of rushed as a freshman, people obviously
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  Speaker 1: started to get to know you. Probably throughout your school
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  Speaker 1: year as a freshman. Did anyone come up to you
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  Speaker 1: and say, oh, I want you to be at my sorority,
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  Speaker 1: please rush, please rush sophomore year? Like, did that make
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  Speaker 1: you want to rush even more? Or was it because
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  Speaker 1: all of your friends were in one?
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  Speaker 6: I think these girls were we have like a big
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  Speaker 6: group of all of us that were friends, and I
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  Speaker 6: was friends with them, and they weren't necessarily like rush,
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  Speaker 6: we want you in Akyo, but they were like you
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  Speaker 6: should go through the process and like we're here if.
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  Speaker 7: You need anything.
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  Speaker 6: And I had definitely been like I had been to
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  Speaker 6: formals with my roommate, and I was like definitely exposed
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  Speaker 6: to those sorority world. And once I like understood what
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  Speaker 6: was going on, I just think back to my freshman
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  Speaker 6: year brain and how I had no idea and the
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  Speaker 6: whole thing felt so foreign. And then just like the
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  Speaker 6: little bit of context had of like, oh, these are
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  Speaker 6: what the houses are, this is like how the process works.
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  Speaker 7: It made rushing sophomore year so much easier.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure it was also funny because we were all
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  Speaker 5: like such good friends at the point when she was
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  Speaker 5: rushing the second time around, and lived literally right across
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  Speaker 5: from each other, and like we would see each other
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  Speaker 5: during the rounds, but like from the different point of view,
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  Speaker 5: so we would be like the recruiters. And then I
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  Speaker 5: went saw her walking through the house and I was like, oh, funny,
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  Speaker 5: can't you can't you can't do anything. But I was
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  Speaker 5: just like smiling at her.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sure they didn't let you recruit her, right, No, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: it was funny. Did you guys have an idea of
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  Speaker 1: what house you wanted before rushing and did that impact
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  Speaker 1: your rushing process, like in a positive or negative way?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I feel like for us it might be
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  Speaker 4: kind of similar.
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  Speaker 5: So the friend I had before, I always wanted to
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  Speaker 5: be in hers just because I had heard maybe like
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  Speaker 5: horror stories of people putting on fronts during recruitment, and
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  Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know if this is like
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  Speaker 5: real the conversations I'm having, But since I know this
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  Speaker 5: friend of mine so dearly, I trust her judgment, So
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  Speaker 5: that kind of like put a bias over my perspective.
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  Speaker 5: I obviously tried to have an open mind and I
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  Speaker 5: didn't let it totally skew my process, but that definitely
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  Speaker 5: I had like one that stood out to me from
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  Speaker 5: the get go, and then I don't know if that's.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty similar, just because like seeing my
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  Speaker 3: sister and her friends, like they were groups of people
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  Speaker 3: that I just really liked, and so I kind of
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  Speaker 3: going into it was had that house in mind, but
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  Speaker 3: it definitely didn't stop me from like thinking about all
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  Speaker 3: of them as a whole and like seeing where I
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  Speaker 3: personally liked better.
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  Speaker 6: I would say when I rushed my freshman year like.
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  Speaker 7: That, because I did. We did we do it in weekends,
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  Speaker 7: so during the first weekend do like I think it's
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  Speaker 7: like two days or three days.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even remember.
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  Speaker 6: But when I went through it the first time, I
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  Speaker 6: remember like connecting so much with the girl that the
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  Speaker 6: girls that I was talking to in the houses and
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  Speaker 6: like having a very hard time separating myself from like
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  Speaker 6: the process. So I would like be talking to the
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  Speaker 6: girl and I'm like I would leave and I see
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  Speaker 6: myself in the sorority and I'm like I see all
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  Speaker 6: the girls that are in the room that are like
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  Speaker 6: these are my best friends whatever, and then feeling like
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  Speaker 6: so devastated when like I would get dropped from a house.
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  Speaker 6: And I think there was definitely too specifically that I had,
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  Speaker 6: like my first time rushing where I was like absolutely
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  Speaker 6: devastated that I didn't when I like dropped out of
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  Speaker 6: the process and everything because I like totally had it
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  Speaker 6: in mine.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, I see myself here whatever.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, the dropping thing is crazy, like I feel
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  Speaker 5: like a never experienced.
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  Speaker 6: Rejection like that, Like it's horrible.
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  Speaker 1: Eighteen Yeah, how many sororities does your school have.
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  Speaker 4: Or no one, We're like eighteen years old, there's no I.
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  Speaker 2: Thought you were saying you your school eighteen sororities. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 4: I think is there nine? I think there's nine, But okay.
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  Speaker 5: Our rush process is before school actually starts, so it's
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  Speaker 5: the first thing you're introduced to after getting dropped off
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  Speaker 5: by your parents, and then you have like a fifteen
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  Speaker 5: minute conversation for the first round and you're like, that
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  Speaker 5: was great. Those girls seem great. And then you don't
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  Speaker 5: get the house back the next thing. You're like, wait, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you're right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean your parents drop you off. It's absolutely heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I remember freshman year. I was like crying,
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  Speaker 1: like I was going to be gone for years. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: I was forty five minutes away from home, but it
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  Speaker 1: was like the worst day of my life, like best
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  Speaker 1: and worst. And then you're right, like rushing your sorority
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  Speaker 1: and then getting rejected, You're like, great, this is exactly
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  Speaker 1: what I needed. This is really going to you know,
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  Speaker 1: boost my confidence starting school, Like.
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  Speaker 4: One thing after another, you're like, what else, What's next?
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  Speaker 1: How did you guys navigate sharing things with your friends
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  Speaker 1: during rush? Did you keep things private or were you
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  Speaker 1: open during the process and talk to your friends about things.
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  Speaker 5: I think we were supposed to be we were supposed
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  Speaker 5: to be quiet, but we were in like a very
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  Speaker 5: social dorm, and I think that it's hard to come
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  Speaker 5: across like not like you're trying to gatekeep anything while
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  Speaker 5: not sharing things when you're also trying to make friends.
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  Speaker 5: So I didn't really prioritize the secrecy part of it.
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  Speaker 5: I really prioritized like trying to make friends, and so
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  Speaker 5: I was just being open with everyone. And I think
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  Speaker 5: that when it really takes like being a somewhat decent
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  Speaker 5: judge of character to understand like who is telling you
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  Speaker 5: things to like lead you the right way, and who's
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  Speaker 5: telling you things to sort of like deter you and
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  Speaker 5: like make themselves have a better chance at something, which
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  Speaker 5: is also hard to tell when you're a freshly eighteen
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  Speaker 5: year old. But yeah, I definitely talked to like a
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  Speaker 5: lot of friends during the process, and it didn't really
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  Speaker 5: detriment my experience because I was really lucky to talk
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  Speaker 5: to great people, but I'm sure that it could for
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  Speaker 5: people that weren't so lucky, like if people were telling
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  Speaker 5: them the wrong things, maybe, But I don't know if you.
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  Speaker 6: Guys had any I feel like we, like, at least
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  Speaker 6: in my experience, like, like she said, we were in
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  Speaker 6: the same dorm, so we lived in a very like
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  Speaker 6: social drum. I remember like every single night after rush,
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  Speaker 6: everybody would like sit in the hallway and we would all.
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  Speaker 7: Talk about like talk to or whatever, which.
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  Speaker 6: Probably we weren't supposed to be doing, and like we
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  Speaker 6: would like look out the people and like which also
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  Speaker 6: definitely not a lot of tell I shouldn't say that,
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  Speaker 6: but like I would. I totally remember that, or even
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  Speaker 6: when I was rushing as a soft like sophomore year,
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  Speaker 6: I would like, I feel like it was very helpful
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  Speaker 6: to talk to my roommates about everything that I was
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  Speaker 6: experiencing and like, yeah, I don't know, it's a very
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  Speaker 6: foreign process. So like knowing that you're like have other
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  Speaker 6: people who are in it with you, I think is
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  Speaker 6: like a trauma bond almos.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I would tell everything in my roommate and
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  Speaker 3: she would also tell me, and it was just kind
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  Speaker 3: of like it would be like sad when you got dropped,
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  Speaker 3: because I'd feel like embarrassed, being like, oh, well, that
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  Speaker 3: house dropped me, and then I would feel like, oh, like,
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  Speaker 3: is this person gonna think that, like I'm not like.
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  Speaker 4: Great or cool? But I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't really like that for me, which was good,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm sure I feel like it could have been
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  Speaker 3: for some people.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, But I also think that it helped with the
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  Speaker 5: like embarrassment factor of it, because like if you're saying, oh,
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: I got dropped, and then hearing that validation that other
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: people also are getting dropped, You're like, okay, and I
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: love you already. So I'm sure it's just like the process,
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: not anything personal.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: What is your biggest piece of advice to any p
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: and ms that are going to go through the rush process.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know, it's so weird because it always is
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: the like be yourself, but I guess just knowing that
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: the person you're talking to is in the same boat
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: with like having these sort of at times can feel
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: scripted conversations and just that neither of you want it
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: to feel scripted, but just both like addressing maybe the
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: nerves at the beginning of a conversation if you're feeling
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: them could be good to say like at the beginning,
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: like I'm so nervous, but I'm so excited to be here,
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: and just maybe that can make the conversation go a
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: little bit like smoother and less scripted.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: That's what I don't know, right.
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: I feel like I would say, just like embrace the process,
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: because like, having gone through it twice, I have like
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: never I think it's like the best like exposure therapy
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: to having to meet a million people, having to have
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: a conversation almost coming up with like an elevator pitch
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: about yourself.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Literally give me a thirty second elevator pitch.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: By being in those conversations, like you get the opportunity
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: to practice like have it like I'm talking to all
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: those people. There's no other time that you're going to
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: be exposed to that many people and like learn things
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: from other people. And even in like now being a
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: senior and going through interviews and stuff like that, I
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: feel like I almost have an advantage to other people
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: who didn't have to go through it twice because I'm
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: like I'm so comfortable and familiar with just like having
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: to come up with a conversation, coming up with small
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: talk like those kinds of things. So I think that's
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: just embrace the process, go through it, even if you
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: don't know if you want to be in a sourority,
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: like yeah, yeah.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: And I remember also thinking like the girls that were
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: like recruiting me were like I don't know, I would
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: think that they were just like so much older and
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: like so much more like whys and stuff, but the
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: reality is like they are just like one year older
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: or like maybe two, and like they just like they're
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: also just as nervous and like just I guess, yeah,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: like weud just be yourself because I just feel like
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: it you'll get the house that like you're meant to get,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I guess, and you shouldn't like fake a persona to
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: like get one that wouldn't fit you in the long run.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Do you guys have any rush regrets?
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, I have like a regret.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: On the other side, I was recruiting someone and I
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: totally messed up because it was one of the last
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: houses and I was so tired or last houses for
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: them we stay in the same house, but I was
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: so tired.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: And then I totally I asked.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Her, I think, like what her major was, and she
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: went on this like long spiel and we started having
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: a casual like back and forth, and then I was
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: trying to get back on my line of questioning and
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: I asked the exact same question again and then she
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: started answering, and when she answered, I was like, oh.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: And then I like put my head in my hands
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: and I was like, I'm so sorry.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I a great time here. I swear I'm just like tired.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: But then it was just it made the whole thing
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: seem more authentic, So it was fine, but I I
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: feel like that could have been like one thing that
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: I could have done better.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: I feel like having gone through it twice, like I
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: wish that I had just kept like everyone always says,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: like keep an open mind, but I feel like there
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: were definitely some like houses that I wrote off in
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: my head just because I was like, oh, I don't
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't this isn't like this doesn't seem
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: like it would be my vibe based on what I was.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Told and also probably what you witnessed freshman year, right right.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: And so I think like I'm so grateful honestly that
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: I went through it a second time, because if I
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: had stuck with like what my perception of the sororities
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: just based on having like seen them very minimally.
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: I think I'm might have ended up freshman.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Year in a house that wasn't like I wasn't even considered,
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: I wasn't really like, AKO wasn't one of the ones
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: that I was necessarily like considering super heavily freshman year.
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: And I couldn't be happier being here now.
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: So, yeah, what was midday like for you guys?
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: It was fun?
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: But I lost my key to my dorm running to
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: like we run back to the house from run home, Yeah,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: and I couldn't even make it past the grass because
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: I lost my dorm key and you couldn't get into it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: So I had like some girls stayed back with me
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: and I looked in the grass and then I got
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: there like twenty minutes later.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: But so it was ok, not great in that sense,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: but it was fun.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Once we got to the house, there was just so
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: much energy and I felt like such an adrenaline high.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I was WHOA Okay, And.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: You feel just so like welcome because all the girls
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: that you like talk to, they're just like so happy
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: to see you.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: And you're like, yay, I had a different experience freshman
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: year for sure, because I think it was like every
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: we lived in a very social dorm, so everybody on
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: the floor was gone at their midday and then they
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: all came back with their like rush crush or whatever.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: And I was like, I remember there was one girl
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: who got dropped like from this she would suicide bidded
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: one sorority and she it was her birthday on mid
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: day and she got dropped mourning.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Out, Oh my god, that's horrible, Like.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: We're eating donuts on the floor of our door, but
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: she was like crying and we were just like sitting
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: there and I remember be feeling like so left out
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: and being like, oh my god, this is gonna be
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: awful and I'm never gonna recover from this experience, and
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: my college is like screwed. And then now being here,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: I'm like, that was the stupidest thing ever because you
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: totally come back from it and it's fine. So back
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: to the advice thing, actually, like you will you will
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: be where you need to be. As for piano, you
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: will be where you need to be and it'll all
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: work out, even if it feels awful, like the moment,
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: but software was great.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Do you guys remember the first time you met each other?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Are there any fun first time meeting stories that you
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: can share.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I don't even remember. Well, we knew each other in
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: high school. Yeah, but I like don't remember when we I.
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: Don't even know how we were in.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: We had a class together because since we're the same major,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: we me and Ellie had a class together, and she
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: I thought she was so cool because she was you're
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: not allowed to have cars the first year, and she
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: had had.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: A car so she would drive you guys to class.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: We were in like a group project, and she was like,
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: let's go instead of studying at the library, let's go
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: study at a coffee shop downtown.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I can drive.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, like let's go. I'm gonna
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: get off campus. And so I just thought you were
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: really cool. And you would always talk about like going
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: to UCSB a lot, and I was like, oh my gosh,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: she doesn't even need to stay here, like she's like
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: traveling and she has a car and she's so cool.
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: But we had a class together. I don't even remember
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: meeting you.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I feel like, just like in Akio in general,
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: like I wasn't as close like I had knew rees
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: from class. I knew all of them, but when I
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: joined AKIO, I remember, I think it was bid midnight
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: or something. You guys like they all like wouldn't let
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: me go to anything. Like when I had to go
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: to like meetings and stuff, they were all like so
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: welcoming and so helpful because we lived across the street
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: from each other my sophomore year and so I would
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: always feel kind of like out, like a little bit
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: out of the group because I was like in the
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: PC below them, so I would have to go to
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: my meetings and stuff. But even during the initiation or
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: like our prep week and everything, like, they would always
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: make me feel super welcome and like come. And I
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: remember the first time like all being at the house
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: together like on midnight. It was like so exciting and
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: so fun.
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: And yeah, I don't.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Know what was your guys level of involvement in your sorority.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Did you guys play a role on EXEC or a
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: role during recruitment?
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was on EXEC last year. It was
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: the school year, so last January to this January, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I was vice president of public Relations and Marketing, So
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: I did all of the like merchandising and then social
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: media's and stuff, and I had so much fun doing that,
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: and that definitely connected me to the whole sorority. Because
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: you had to look everyone up on Instagram every day.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I felt like a stalker.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Because I got to know like everybody's names because I
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: was always looking at their handles, and so younger girls
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: who were like two years younger would come up and
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: I'd be like hi, and then I would say their
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: name and they'd be like, hey, have we met? And
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh no, I just like I've seen your
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Instagram like every day, Like don't it's not weird.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: But that definitely helped.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: I was on it with two of our other roommates
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: that couldn't make it today, and so I feel like
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: getting into like the older years, you either like increase
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: your involvement or it becomes easier to drop out. And
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: so it was really cool to have three of the
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: people in our house like super involved because I think
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: it really will be Obviously wanted other people to come
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: to the events that like EXEC members were like required
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: to go to, and so then we would encourage like
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: all of our friends to come, and then that really
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: helped our retention rate. So like our PC is still
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: super big, but the one below us is really small
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: because a lot of them didn't want to get involved
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: like that. So I think that and like junior and
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: senior year, it really depends if you want to get
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: further involved or just drop out because you already met
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: all your friends.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I liked I didn't do any exact positions,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: but like I feel like that was kind of a regret,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: like I wish I did, but them being orcing on
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: exec kind of like made me go to the events
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: and like stay in contact with all the people, which
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: is nice.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: I made the recruitment video for last year, and so
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: the year prior to that, I went to a lot
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: of events and stuff just to record it. And I
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: think having a reason to be there and like being
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: involved like connects you so much more to your sourority
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: and helped help me meet people in the PC. I
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: guess above me but my year that I didn't know before,
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: and I'm actually really glad that I did it. Remember
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: in the moment, I was like this is awful, and
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: everybody was like I.
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: Was like super overwhelmed.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: I'm like I'm never gonna finish this, but then it
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: ended up being totally worth it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Well, what is something you guys will miss most about
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: sorority life and what is something you will not miss
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: miss most?
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: I think just ties hand in hand with college itself.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Like we don't live in our sorority house, but we
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: live in a house of twelve girls with mixed sororities,
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: and I think that have that huge just like girl
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: party house where we like it's every door you open
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: is just like your friend's house or your friend's room,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: and you can at one point of the day like
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: someone's going to be home, so it's like you're always
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: surrounded by company and friendship. And so I think that
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: that's when I'm gonna miss most, even though it doesn't
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: directly tie into the sorority, but that's what I got
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: from it, And then I will not miss the fines
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: from not going to chapter.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one too, But I'm definitely just gonna miss
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: like all like the events and like everyone just like
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: coming together and like always having an excuse to just
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: like hang out with your friends. So that will be missed,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: which is so sad.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: I feel like sororities like there's never going to be
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: another point in our lives where we have this much
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: on like a calendar like of fun events to do
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: with like all of our favorite people, and so I
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: definitely think that's going to be like a huge thing
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: of just like, oh, we have an excuse like formal,
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: like let's all get dressed up and like hang out
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: and party with all of our best friends or like
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: exchanges or all the different things, even the stuff that
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: we aren't involved in. It's just like, I like, that's
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: you totally don't think about it until you're facing like
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: not ever doing it again, and it's like, wait, this
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: is so awesome and I've grown so accustomed to this,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: so I.
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: Feel like that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: And then yeah, definitely, like the stupid stuff that we
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: everybody hates doing, like finds for chapter and all that,
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: it's like absolutely I don't want to do with Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, Well, thank you so much for coming
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: on to Dirty Rush, and congrats on graduating, best of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: luck with everything.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: In the future, and thanks again for coming on.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Thank you for having us by bye bye.
• 27:14
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• 27:20
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