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The Three Timing Sheriff w Caleb Hearon (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's poppin' congregation? We are back with another installment of
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  Speaker 1: Scam Goddess. It's me, your host Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm here with an icon, guys. I'm so what?
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  Speaker 1: yes excited for this oh my god he's so hilarious
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  Speaker 1: you've seen all of his funny ass videos on the
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  Speaker 1: intranet he was jfl when jfl didn't have no damn
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  Speaker 1: outside honey when they were just on the radio he
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  Speaker 1: was listen that's an accomplishment you got jfl during the
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  Speaker 1: panderosa and that is a true accomplishment guys.
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  Speaker 2: I have caleb heron with me hi hello how's it
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  Speaker 2: going dude It's going great.
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm great. I'm in a hotel room right now. You
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  Speaker 3: can see.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, fancy.
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  Speaker 3: You can see my little suitcase. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: What jobs you been working on, Caleb? I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: ask you before we start. I'm going to ask you
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  Speaker 1: right now. What jobs you working on? What can you
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  Speaker 1: tell me?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you know, I'm in Chicago. I'm filming for Work
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  Speaker 3: in Progress on Showtime. But, you know, I'm really just
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  Speaker 3: trying to keep up with you because you're doing everything.
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  Speaker 3: You're out here working. You're doing everything. You're a star.
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  Speaker 3: You're a star.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. So are you. It's so good to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you. I also love that you are in
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  Speaker 1: this hotel room and you have a full microphone set up.
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  Speaker 1: Like my man is holding a mic and I'm so
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  Speaker 1: into it. Come on, professionalism. You about to give me
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  Speaker 1: your type 15. Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, congratulations. We love to see a booked and busy King. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I like this shirt.
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  Speaker 1: It's a, Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I got this. I got this shirt because Frank Ocean
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  Speaker 3: has this shirt. And once I saw Frank in it,
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  Speaker 3: I said, well, it's time I have to go get.
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  Speaker 3: So I got. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, I have to read it. It says, why be racist, sexist,
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  Speaker 1: homophobic or transphobic when you could just be quiet? Amen. Hello.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Have we heard of it?
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  Speaker 1: Silence is always an option.
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  Speaker 3: And people don't exercise that enough. People do not exercise
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  Speaker 3: that enough. It is a right. It is a right
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  Speaker 3: and an opportunity and people should take it more often.
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  Speaker 1: Take advantage of being quiet. It costs nothing to put
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  Speaker 1: them two lips together and hold it. Mmm. Don't it
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  Speaker 1: feel so good? You know, and you can put them
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  Speaker 1: two fingers together, too. Stop emailing me with y'all's critiques.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want your feedback. I want scams. And y'all
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  Speaker 1: know this. Okay? That's it. and that's it like that
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  Speaker 1: kanye song we want the scams and that's it okay
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  Speaker 1: and that's it and that's all caleb what's your relationship
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  Speaker 1: with scams like have you ever been scammed have you
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  Speaker 1: do you like i have never like it could be.
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  Speaker 3: Anything i have never been scammed i will i'm unscammable
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  Speaker 3: no one could scam me Yeah, you can. Look, you
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  Speaker 3: would have to wake up awfully early in the morning
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  Speaker 3: to scam me. It is not going to happen for you.
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  Speaker 3: I see through it. I see the scams. I grew
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  Speaker 3: up poor, so I know what a scam looks like, honey.
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  Speaker 3: I have been around them. I have a lot of
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  Speaker 3: respect for scammers. And when people do try to scam me,
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  Speaker 3: all I can say to them is, I see it
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  Speaker 3: and I appreciate it. Thank you for trying. You'll have
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  Speaker 3: to move on, but thank you for trying. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you're not a mark, but you do appreciate a
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  Speaker 1: good scam. Good for you. You tried. I appreciate the effort. Okay. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I will take this.
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  Speaker 3: I am a big fan.
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  Speaker 1: I've been all around. Do you remember like an attempted
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  Speaker 1: scam someone tried on you ever?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I will tell you, here are two scams
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  Speaker 3: that come to mind. I'll tell you my favorite scam
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  Speaker 3: in recent history, and I'll tell you a scam that's
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  Speaker 3: been attempted on me. A scam that gets attempted on
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  Speaker 3: me a lot is, look, on gay dating apps, there are.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of scammers and like people will like, there's
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  Speaker 3: this one particular scam that gay men try to do
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  Speaker 3: on dating apps where they're like, you know, they'll message you.
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  Speaker 3: And this is not the same as sex workers. Sex
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  Speaker 3: workers are dope. We love them. We support them.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's a profession. So if you're getting involved in that,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you're getting your trading. There's an exchange of services.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. Love sex workers. Happy for them. What I'm talking
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  Speaker 3: about is when you're having, you're chatting with a guy,
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  Speaker 3: a gay man on say Grindr. And, um, he is like, he's,
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  Speaker 3: he's interested. You're interested. You're like, Hey, do you want
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  Speaker 3: to come over? He's like, yes. You're like, great. Let
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  Speaker 3: me just clean up my room and do all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And then he will be like, great, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: have a car. And you'll be like, well, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to come pick you up. I'm not like this
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  Speaker 3: high school. I have, it's been a long time since
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing that. And then, and then the scam
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  Speaker 3: is this, they'll say, well, I want to come over,
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  Speaker 3: but I just need you to Venmo me gas money
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  Speaker 3: so I can get there. And I have never in
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  Speaker 3: my life fallen for this because I know as soon
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  Speaker 3: as the Venmo hits, you're just going to do this
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  Speaker 3: to 20. Yeah, you're going to get $ 5 gas money
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  Speaker 3: from 20 people tonight, make $ 100 and log off. And
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  Speaker 3: I respect that.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 3: But I can't be part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Also gas money. What is it? 1989? Who the fuck
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  Speaker 1: is that? Like, why don't you get asked for Uber? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'll call you a Uber gas money.
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  Speaker 3: Literally, that's literally because the first time it happened to
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  Speaker 3: me that this guy was really cute. And he like
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  Speaker 3: he had his Instagram attached. I was like, he's real.
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  Speaker 3: And I know what's going on. And I was like, look,
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  Speaker 3: I will buy you an Uber. I mean, I have
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  Speaker 3: a job. Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Caleb is booked and busy.
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  Speaker 3: Not to brag, but I can afford to buy you
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  Speaker 3: an Uber.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And, uh, and he was like, no, no, I have
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  Speaker 3: a car. I just need money for gas. And then
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, well I'm out. Cause that seems sketchy.
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  Speaker 3: I'll just hook up with somebody else who isn't doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's continued to happen. And I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this is just, this is a scam that people run
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  Speaker 3: on dating apps and good for them.
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  Speaker 1: Did he ask for a specific amount of gas money?
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  Speaker 1: Because gas money out here looking like GPA is like
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  Speaker 1: summa cum laude. It's like, what, $ 4? Gas is too
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  Speaker 1: successful and too smart. We want dumb gas. We want
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  Speaker 1: academic probation gas.
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  Speaker 3: Gas is highly educated in L.A.
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  Speaker 4: They....
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it'd be like $ 5, $ 10. And I'm like, look,
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  Speaker 3: I'm offering to get you a nicer option. This is
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  Speaker 3: how you know it's a scam because the nicer option
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  Speaker 3: is I will send an Uber to get you. I
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  Speaker 3: will send you home in an Uber because you're certainly
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  Speaker 3: not staying at my place. I can tell you that much.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like I'm offering you the nicer thing and
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  Speaker 3: you're not taking it. That to me, that has scam
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  Speaker 3: written all over it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Because there's so many people on Grindr that,
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  Speaker 1: especially if you're cute, you can match with a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of people and get you a little coin. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: that is funny that anyone would think that, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: can I have $ 5 for gas? It's, like, legitimate in
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  Speaker 1: the year of our Lord 2021. Like, you want just
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  Speaker 1: enough money to get to my house and turn around?
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  Speaker 1: It's like, look, I just need 1.83 gallons, and then
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be fucking all evening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and that's another scam. I'll tell you, too, that
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  Speaker 3: gay men on dating apps a lot of times will
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  Speaker 3: say things like that where they're like, oh, we're going
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  Speaker 3: to fuck all night. I'm going to fuck you first.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, no one's going to fuck me all night.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to bed. You're going to fuck me for
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  Speaker 3: a little while and then you're going to go home
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  Speaker 3: and leave my house. You're not fucking me all night.
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  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Right. Fucking all night is a scam. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you can only fuck all night if you unemployed. Bitch,
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  Speaker 1: I'm good with a nice 13 minutes and then maybe
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  Speaker 1: around two. But that's it. All night, bitch.
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  Speaker 3: No. If you want to fuck me, you can fuck
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  Speaker 3: me for 27 minutes before I fall asleep. And then
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  Speaker 3: maybe in a couple of days we could do it again.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking like an hour a week maximum spread out
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  Speaker 3: over all seven nights. There's no way. I'm fucking all night.
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  Speaker 1: This calendar spread over all seven days. I know that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I got a skin routine to do talking about something
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  Speaker 1: fucking all night. I got to get these pores moisturized.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, could never be me. But my favorite scam in
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  Speaker 3: recent memory is, and I, God, I wish I knew
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  Speaker 3: her name. You might, I think you've done an episode
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  Speaker 3: about this. I'm not sure, but If you haven't done
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  Speaker 3: an episode, you know of it. That black girl who
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  Speaker 3: scammed all the mega people by wearing a.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. The MAGA Trump black girl. I loved her.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that upset me about her scam was
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  Speaker 1: she actually came out and was like, this is a scam.
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  Speaker 1: And I think she gave some of the money back.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, baby girl, don't give that money back.
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  Speaker 1: That's called reparations. No.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if anything... No, no, no. I don't like that
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  Speaker 3: at all. She should have kept all of it. She
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  Speaker 3: should have kept it going. I mean, there was also
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  Speaker 3: those guys, and I know you posted about this because
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  Speaker 3: I remember seeing it, but those guys who... uh we're
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  Speaker 3: selling trump gear at like the capital shit or the
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  Speaker 3: around the election and they were like we don't fuck
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  Speaker 3: with trump at all we're just trying to make money and.
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  Speaker 2: I was like absolutely you gotta scam these people exactly
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  Speaker 2: and i later found out because y'all are fucking mood
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  Speaker 2: killers but that that was like a spoof story or
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  Speaker 2: something but i'm sure that there are real people out
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  Speaker 2: there doing this don't ruin my fun trying to tell
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  Speaker 2: me stuff ain't.
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  Speaker 1: True don't ruin the fun we having fun here it's
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  Speaker 1: real it's real to me in my heart it's all
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  Speaker 1: about standpoint exactly okay yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's it It's real for me and my friends and
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  Speaker 3: my family and my loved ones. That story is real
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  Speaker 3: and I'll never change my mind. I've already made up
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  Speaker 3: my mind about it.
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  Speaker 1: Amen. I'm absolutely with you on that. Also, it's so
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  Speaker 1: funny to me. Everyone talks about woke culture and cancer culture.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I fucking hate when white people steal
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  Speaker 1: words from black folks. When black folks are minding our
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  Speaker 1: business on black Twitter and we're not talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: Canceled was ours first and we weren't actually canceling people.
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  Speaker 1: We were just having fun and we would be like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you canceled.
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  Speaker 3: It was just a joke.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And then white people took it and were like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, cancel culture. And it's like, you mean consequences
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  Speaker 1: for your actions? What are you talking about? Also, it's
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  Speaker 1: so bizarre to me that white people will go beyond
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  Speaker 1: uh to prove that they're not racist by buying racist
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  Speaker 1: merch from black people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah to be like no no no i get i
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  Speaker 3: get my uh white supremacy gear from a black man
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  Speaker 3: you can't actually come for me my white.
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  Speaker 1: Supremacy store is black owned okay i donate to black
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  Speaker 1: maga girls.
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  Speaker 3: So This is literally– I mean, look, that is why
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  Speaker 3: grifters that have marginalized identities that choose the conservative grift
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  Speaker 3: are so dangerous. Candace Owens is dangerous. Milo Yiannopoulos is
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  Speaker 3: dangerous because they can point and say, look, a black woman,
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  Speaker 3: a gay man, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. They're
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  Speaker 3: on my side. They agree with me. I can't be
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  Speaker 3: the things you're calling me. That's why somebody like Nikki
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  Speaker 3: Haley or like Kristi Noem in South Dakota– she's a
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  Speaker 3: big GOP rising star– The right thinks that they can
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  Speaker 3: prop up people with marginalized identities and then go, look,
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  Speaker 3: we can't be sexist, racist, homophobic, et cetera. Look at
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  Speaker 3: what we did. And it's like, no, you just found
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  Speaker 3: a grifter. That's all you did. You found a grifter.
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  Speaker 1: Because Candace Owens used to be a Democrat. And then
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  Speaker 1: she realized the coins were in hatred. And then she
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  Speaker 1: got that hate bag. And I mean, when you think
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  Speaker 1: about it like that, I can still be mad at her,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, her hair is mad enough at her already.
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  Speaker 1: So what else can I do that her edges haven't
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  Speaker 1: already done to her face? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: That hair is arid, okay, honey? When California be having
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  Speaker 1: they wildfire notices, you know, I be like, Candace, you
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  Speaker 1: better stay away from broken glass. One wrong angle from
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  Speaker 1: the sun, bitch. It's all over for you. That shit
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  Speaker 1: going up in flames. Okay?
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  Speaker 3: Stay away.
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  Speaker 1: Hell boy, Candace, don't do it.
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  Speaker 3: Do not hang out around a fire. You are in trouble, Candace.
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  Speaker 3: We're worried. We are worried.
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  Speaker 1: We are concerned. And by concerned, I mean I want
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  Speaker 1: it to happen. So, I mean, rooting for it and
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  Speaker 1: praying for it.
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  Speaker 3: This is reverse psychology. Please hang out by a fire.
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  Speaker 3: Please hang out by broken glass. We're looking for it.
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  Speaker 1: Own the libs by hanging out by a dumpster fire.
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  Speaker 1: Own us, girl.
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  Speaker 3: Get our asses, please.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we need that. Read us. Drag us. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: into our first segment here, guys. What's hot and fraud?
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  Speaker 1: If you're new to the show, this is where I
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  Speaker 1: warn our listeners about popping new scams on the streets.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: Or more often than not, we get a letter from
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  Speaker 1: you guys where you can snitch on your friends and family.
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  Speaker 1: And if you'd like to participate in that scam goddess
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  Speaker 1: pod at gmail.com, just make sure the bag is retired.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want to fuck up your coins. So, Caleb,
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  Speaker 1: I need a name. We don't care about gender on
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  Speaker 1: this show. Just a name for this person.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, D'Artagnan.
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  Speaker 1: D'Artagnan, yes. So D'Artagnan says, I skipped all the stuff
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  Speaker 1: before D'Artagnan, but thank you. And D'Artagnan says that they
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  Speaker 1: are up on scams.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So D'Artagnan says a jury duty summons was sent to me,
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  Speaker 1: but went to my parents address. Considering only my junk
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  Speaker 1: mail ever lands in their mailbox, the summons got buried
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  Speaker 1: under a stack of coupon mailers. I didn't pick it
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  Speaker 1: up until after the call in date had passed. I
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  Speaker 1: contacted the court and explained what happened. They said my
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  Speaker 1: name went back to the jury pool and that I'd
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  Speaker 1: likely get a new summons within the next three to
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  Speaker 1: six months. Fast forward to three to six months later,
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  Speaker 1: I get a phone call from an officer explaining that
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  Speaker 1: I had missed my jury summons. I told him that
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  Speaker 1: I knew I had missed the first one, but he
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  Speaker 1: was still expecting the second one. He told me that
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  Speaker 1: he was referring to the second summons. And somehow, again,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't receive or get any notification of my missed deadline.
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  Speaker 1: Now there's a warrant out for my arrest. So wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know they tried to put you in a
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  Speaker 1: clink if you missed jury duty. I thought you had
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  Speaker 1: a fine and the girls would be upset. I didn't even.
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  Speaker 3: Know they could do that. They can put a warrant
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  Speaker 3: out for your arrest because you didn't go try to
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  Speaker 3: put somebody else in jail. This is a fucked up system.
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  Speaker 3: I do not like it here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to Google all this, but I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you can send people to jail for missing jury duty.
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  Speaker 1: That just feels excessive.
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  Speaker 3: I know there's some fines.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be wild if you're sitting at court and then
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  Speaker 1: you went on the jury because you didn't do jury duty.
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  Speaker 1: And it was like, you're supposed to be on the
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  Speaker 1: other side.
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  Speaker 3: You're supposed to be over here. Hey, you made a choice.
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  Speaker 3: You made a choice. You could have been over here
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  Speaker 3: and now you're over there. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, can I do both? Can I also vote?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let me be my own juror. Because guess what?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going home.
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  Speaker 1: We all should get one vote in our own trial.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. And it should count for a lot because it's like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, trust people kind of vibes. I would
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  Speaker 3: tell the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And as a black person who, okay, so I
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  Speaker 1: did get a jury duty summons for the first time
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  Speaker 1: this year, but then, you know, the row row hit.
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  Speaker 1: And so where was I going to go in a
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Peter Piper pick a pepper to like send somebody to jail?
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: But I do think that people of color, like, look,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: jury duty sucks, but we should go if we have it,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: if you can, because there's not enough people of color
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: during juries. And so the peers, the jury of your
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: peers is just a bunch of racists.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: Right. Look, anti-carceral state people in general, we got to
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: take jury duty because look, if you didn't like straight
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: up kill an old woman in the street, I'm sending
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: you home. You're getting off. You're not going to jail
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: because the jail shouldn't exist. We all got to go
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: through that.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Like, for-profit prisons are a scam. They're just doing this
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: shit so they can get free labor. Like, you can
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: get your license plates made by somebody that you can
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: pay five cents to, which is inhumane no matter what
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: crimes these people are doing. They still deserve a living wage.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like, it's like, we have to go. Because,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: you know, a racist, they love a jury duty. That's
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: a turn up for them. They're like, we got a branch.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Then we go on a jury duty. We're going to
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: put some necros in jail. And then we're going to
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: go home and watch the CMA Country Music Awards and
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: hope that Lil Nas X isn't back.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: It hurt it hurt my heart that you threw country
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: music in there because i do love country music but
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: i have to say you are not wrong they do
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: really love country.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Music i'm from texas i love me some country music
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: okay she thinks my tractor sexy that was hot when
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: i was in high school but uh right it was
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: a banger that i used to love buck cherry.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah oh you're a crazy.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Bitch but you look so good.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: I'm on top of it or he had that he
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: had that slow song they played it like one of
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: my middle school dances where he's like i'm sorry i'm
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: bad he.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Kind of had.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: It go i mean he had a moment he had
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: an absolute moment he.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Did but he had a true moment and i was
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: into it i won't lie um but yeah so we
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: also have to do jury duty guys So he the
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: officer on the phone with them explained that I could
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: go to the sheriff's station only five minutes from my
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: house and sign an affidavit stating that I had no
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: knowledge of the second summons and pay a small fine.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: He told me that I need to stay on the
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: phone while driving to the station. I've never heard no
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: cop be like, I would stay on the line.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, something's going on.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Right. Maybe if you call 911, they'll tell you to
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: stay on the line. But I don't ever feel like
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: police just call them like, hey, it's me, Officer Dubat.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: We need you to stay on the line. Like, what?
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I think the cop is running a scam. I can't
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: wait to hear where this goes.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I know that's where it's feeling like it's going to me.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: So this person got on hands for Devon. What'd you
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: call him? Devon.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, D'Artagnan.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: D'Artagnan.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Why did I pick a complicated name? Like what is, why, what, what,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: what angle am I playing on that?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Why don't I immediately go to Devante? No. D'Artagnan. So
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: D'Artagnan says that they put hands-free on in the car
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: and resumed the phone call. When I arrived, I told
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: him that I was parked in front and asked which
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: door to enter through. He told me that I must
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: have misunderstood and that I needed to pay the fine first.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I asked, don't I pay that here at the station?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: He replied, no, you'll need to take care of that
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: with a prepaid visa, which you can purchase at any
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: local Target, Walmart, etc.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Now, what cop do you know that's going to let
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: you pay a fine in a Google Play gift card?
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Shut the hell up.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Police been corrupt. So I don't know, bro. I feel
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: like if you're going to do this in any industry,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: you've got to pick the one with the least amount
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: of ethics, which is policing.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: For sure. But don't you? I mean, I just feel
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: like if I'm a dirty cop, I want like drugs
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: and guns. I don't like an Applebee's gift card. Like
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: that doesn't really this isn't really clicking for me.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Listen, I need you to go get the Darden, the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Darden gift card. You know the one that go to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Red Lobster and also go to Olive Garden? Get that Darden, okay? Otherwise,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you're going to jail for avoiding jury duty. If I
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: can't have all-you-can-eat breadsticks, you go have them.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Somebody's going to pay, and it's going to be you
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: because you'll be in jail for it. Now go down
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: to the place and get the gift card.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: So this obviously, that's bizarre. So I realized that I
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: had been duped. Now, just a loner in a parking
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: lot of a sheriff's station laughing my ass off in
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the car. I have to admit that up until the
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: big reveal, the scammer was on his A-game. He used
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: all the appropriate lingo with charisma. I even told him
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: that I wished all cops were as friendly as he was.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha ha!
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: All cops should be like you. Up until the scam,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: this was a delightful experience.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Honestly, if cops would just run scams on people and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: stop killing them and terrorizing them, I'd be like, all right.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, we will take our loss here.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: They stopped hurting people. Now they just run cons. You know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: it's fine. Right.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I'm at $ 100, but nobody got shot. That's okay. Right.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I would take that. I would go with that. It's
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: an improvement.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: So.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: At no point leading up to the visa part did
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I suspect him to be fraudulent. Even my phone caller
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: ID showed my county rather than the usual scam likely.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I also realized the cop would never deliver a warrant
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: notification over the phone. Duh. He got lucky to have
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: called me, someone who had actually missed jury duty recently. Therefore,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I was taken off guard. And then she does, they
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: do say like eventually I received the second summons but
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: it was shortly after i moved to a different county
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah um.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I will say so it depends where you live because
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: i did once in high school i had uh the
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: uh the like school cop that we had fucked up
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: came to me in the hallway and was like, hey,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: you have a warrant out for your arrest. And I
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: was like, what? And he was like, yeah, did you
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: get caught without car insurance? And I was like, oh,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I didn't have my card on me, but I mailed
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: them the proof after I got pulled over and I
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: paid the ticket or whatever. And he was like, yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: you still have to show up to court for that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, I didn't know. And he
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, so you need to skip the next
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: period and go down to the jail and pay bail
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and do the thing. So he just came up to
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: me and was like, oh, there's a warrant out for
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: your arrest. But that was a very small town.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I was about to say, because what cop is just
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: at the school running warrants just on his office free time?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: He's just running plates and shit. He must be bored.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: No, it was like, yeah, the town I grew up
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: in was very small. Where are you from? Chillicothe, Missouri,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: north of Kansas City.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Yeah, small town. Okay, gang, gang.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: But yeah, Officer Mike just came through and was like,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: you have a warrant out for your arrest. You should
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: probably go take care of that. And I was like, okay, cool.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: And then I just drove down there and was like,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I walked into the sheriff's office and was like, hey,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I have a warrant out for my arrest. And they
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: were like, what? And I told them the stuff and
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: they were like, oh, yeah, you can't just skip court.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: And I was like, you guys are not listening to me.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I'm 17. No one told me what was supposed to
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: be happening.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: They have to inform you of the judicial system, but
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I love how our judicial system just acts like, well,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: y'all know, y'all read the constitution, right? Y'all read the laws.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Like we know anything. I got pulled over the other
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: day by a cop in LA and he was, he
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: gave me a ticket for texting and driving, which I
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: was looking at my maps. Cause I don't know where
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: the fuck I'm going. Cause the roads in LA are
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: complicated and I'm not from there. But he gave me
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: a ticket and I was like, oh, do you know
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: how much this is going to be? And he was like, no.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, do I have to go
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: to court for it? And he was like, I'm not sure.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: And I was like, what do you do, bitch? What
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: is your job?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: What do you want me to do with this ticket then? Look,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: this is just vibes. I don't know. Figure out how
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to pay it or don't and go to jail. It's
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: not my problem.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I just got a ticket book. He was truly chilling.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, well, you just gave
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: me a ticket. So I wish you knew what it meant.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Right. He was like, no, they just gave me this
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: ticket book and they told me to start handing these
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: out to the girls. So here I am.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: They say hit the girls in the gays with tickets
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and that's what I'm doing.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: You look fine.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: You're okay, right?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: You were driving pretty gaily.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, and that's the truth. When you see me in
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: LA in my Kia Soul, you will know a gay
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: man when you see me.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, not the Kia Soul.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: I'm weak.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Lord Jesus. When I lived in Miami, we had... I
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: don't think they were real police, but we had security
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: guards at the middle school. And I remember this girl
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: named Lala, she threw a desk at me.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: And.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And it was one of those deaths with the chair attached.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, Lala. What did you do? I mean,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: not to victim blame, but did you do something to
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: deserve it? Because that's, I mean, that's like a big
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: thing to throw.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: She was very strong. I had a big mouth back then.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Lala was picking on me because I was a cheerleader.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I remember she said something sniffy
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to me and I had a mouth. I used to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: use improv for evil. I used to just improv insults
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: at people that I knew would hurt them. And I
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: had to stop doing that because I was very observant.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But I was like, don't nobody care about you, Lala.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: If you fell off the face of the earth tomorrow,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: wouldn't nobody give a fuck but you and your damn mama.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: And then she threw a desk at me. I think
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I really hurt her.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I think it definitely hit a nerve.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I cut deep. I did. And I remember the security
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: guards came and got us. And when I told them
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the story, they were like fighting back laughter. They were like,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that's wrong, Lacey. How could you say that? Absolutely. Oh, gosh.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: There's this woman doing TikToks about she's a teacher and
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: her students like she pretends to be her students fighting
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: with each other and her trying not to get involved.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I used to work with kids and they would say
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: in Chicago and they would say the funniest shit, but
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: they were like out of line. So I seriously would
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: just go, you guys have to stop. You guys have
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: to quit. I mean, one of them called me a
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Michelin man looking ass, you know, that big tire.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: The tire man.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: And I was like, you, I mean, through laughter, I
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: was like, you're over. Like, you need to go to
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: the office. I'm done with you right now. But it's
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: fucking hilarious.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Mr.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Harold, why are you laughing?
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Why are you laughing? Yeah, truly, truly true. How are
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: you going to discipline me while you're crying, while you're
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: laughing tears?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Right. And that's, I will say, shout out to Miss Youngblood.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I had a teacher, last quick tangent before we move on.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I had a teacher who, it wasn't until I became
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: an adult and I had friends who were teachers that
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I really understood the plight of educators. Shout out to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: all the educators out there. God bless y'all. But I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: had a teacher who like, she was definitely a scammer.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: She would have like contests and like if you won,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you got to rub her shoulders for 20 minutes.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I love her. I love her.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: That meant you didn't have to do no work. So
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: we all wanted to rub Miss Youngblood's shoulders. She was like,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you don't have to do no work if you win.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: And she was like, I guess it wasn't creepy. She
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: only let girls do it. So we were like, yes,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Miss Youngblood, we want to rub your shoulders. And I
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: remember I had this bully. Her name was Nicole something.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: And she was such a bitch. And every day she
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: would tease me and she was racist. And I used
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to just let her rock because I was like, I'm
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: not going to do this to this girl. And one
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: day I had had enough. I think I was doing
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a presentation or something and she was making some snarky comments.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And I guess I was a strong fifth grader because
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I picked her up by the back of her pants
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and the top of her, like the collar of her shirt.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And I slid her across this desk.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: You grabbed her like Uncle Phil used to grab Jackie Jeff.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I gave her the chance.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Sometimes you gotta give a bitch the jazz okay i
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: was tired of her shit and i remember miss youngblood
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: was like lacy and so she told me she was
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: like go outside right now and then i went outside
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: and she was like she came outside she closed the
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: door she was like hey all right i want you
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: to just act like you got in trouble just chill
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: out here for a little bit i ain't gonna see
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: you to the principal's office because she deserved that shit.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Miss Youngblood, we love you. We stand.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: We stand, Miss Youngblood. We absolutely love you. She was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: about justice, okay? It was like she did deserve that.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: She's been doing that shit for a while.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I was, you know, you should have got her.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It's cool.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: If it wasn't you, it would have been me. If
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: it wasn't you, it would have been me.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: That's what that shit was. She was snarky to Miss Youngblood, too.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I think she was like, finally somebody got that little
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: bitch because I've been wanting to choke her ass every day.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Ooh. Yes.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yes. So, guys, we're going to take a quick break
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: for some non-scam advertisements and we'll be right back.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Scams! Cards!
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And we are back! And it's time for my favorite
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: segment of the show, Historic Hoodwinks. This is when I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: will regale Caleb with a famous caper con group of criminals.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Who knows what we're going to get? And we'll get
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: his opinions all throughout, which are gold. We're so excited
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to have them. So guys, today we're talking about Jason Collier.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Speaking of jail, so Jason Collier was the chief of
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the Senate Police Department in Texas. He was put on
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: leave after a woman accused him of living a double
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: or triple life with at least two girlfriends, all while
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: married with four children.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Now, my very first question right off the bat is,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: how does fucking around on your wife get you... put
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: on leave from your job. I can't wait to find out.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Right. Cause I'm just like, isn't that what a lot
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: of people are doing? Yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: That just sounds like some, that sounds like some Texas
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: morality clause in the contract for employment type shit. This
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: does not seem, this does not seem on the level.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't like this.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I hope this is not in the morality clause. Cause
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: certainly harassing and murdering people of color. Isn't it? If
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: they're like, Oh, you feel that black guy who was unarmed,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: but you cheated on your wife. Now you gotta go.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: That's too far. You gotta go.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: All wives matter so.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: No absolutely not merch actually merch merch for your.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Pod so jason brent collier worked for several texas police
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: departments in numerous positions as an officer detective and briefly
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the chief of police jason was named the senate police
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: department chief in february of 2020 wow recent recent Along
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: with his work as a police officer, Jason was also
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: on the board of Texas-based religious organization Our Brothers Keeper
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: that focuses on police officers and other first responders. Okay. Okay. Sure.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: So Jason was also married twice. He raised two children
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and stepchildren with his second wife, a woman named Opal.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Opal.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. We got a picture with Jason?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Probably the weirdest thing I've heard so far is that
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: this bitch's name is Opal.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Bitch, how you gonna name me after a stone and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: not make it a precious one? Bitch, I can't be Pearl.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I gotta be Opal. That's like naming your baby Tanzanite.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: That's not a good name.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: They named this bitch Granite. I'm so sick.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Opal? Ew. Hey, that's some low-budget-ass name. You better name
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: me Diamond, okay? I don't want to be Sophoric Rock. Like,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: what the fuck? Give me a good name. name.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Get out of here.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: So Jason's wife was also on the board of the organization.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: So here's his double life. Jason wanted more. So he
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: made a dating profile on Plenty of Fish. Not you
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: over here. Not you over here doing adultery on God's apple.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: And also the line, the line Jason wanted more. Isn't
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: that always how it starts, babe? I mean, you want
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: too much and then it goes downhill. That's exactly how
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: it goes.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: This is why you got to keep your man busy.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: My mom always say, you got to keep your, you
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: got to keep them busy and you got to keep
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: them spending. Okay. That's why that song is cheaper to
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: keep her exist. Cause I'm gonna spend all your money.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: So you can't, you can't afford a new bitch.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: To go spend it on someone else. Okay. Yeah. I
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: support that.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to spend you down to your last so
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you can't go nowhere. So you need gas money when
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you get on Tinder.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Someone will fall for it. I know they will.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Right. So his profile said, looking for friendship, then more
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: from there. Not looking for a hookup. Well, there's plenty
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of fish. I thought this was a Jesus app. They
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: over there hooking up in Jesus' name?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Is plenty of fish a Jesus app? I didn't know this.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the fish is like the sign for if
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you're a Christian. They used to draw that shit in
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the sand or whatever and be like, I love Jesus.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Don't tell nobody.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Shh.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Can you keep a secret? I love Jesus. Yeah, on
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: the Christian app, I'm not here for a hookup. Is anybody?
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess there are a lot of freaky Christians.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I will say that. I will say that about them.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: You can get your ass tapped in his name.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: You absolutely can. You absolutely can. I've seen it before
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: and I'll see it again.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And I'll see it again.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: So he said he's looking for sincere conversation, building trust,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and relationship first. And he's looking forward to hearing from you.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: It's more fucked up that he wasn't just looking for sex.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Like this need that he's on there being like, I'm
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: looking for someone I can settle down with. Go take
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: care of your family. What are you talking about?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: You got a whole wife. You got a hell of kids.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And you looking for deep conversation? What?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate that. I don't like that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I don't like that at all. And also, like, I'm
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: on the dating apps. It's trash. And I just have
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: to say, men's dating profiles are fucking awful. You can
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: tell who's been on a dating app for too long.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: This is just a word of advice. If your dating profile, men, women, non-binary, whatever,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: if it's got complaints about the app in it, you've
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: been on the app for too long. Too long.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Or instructions I can't stand the instructions people whose people
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: whose bio are like don't say hello to me be
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: creative 6'3 not into this type of guys ask me
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: if I want to go on a date let's go
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: to these three like these bios that have instructions I'm
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: like are we having fun or do I work for
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: you like what's going.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: On right I'm like bitch this is hinge not indeed
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: like I ain't get on monster.com you want a cover
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: letter bitch to fuck Get out of here.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I didn't sign up for a career fair. I'm here
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: to get laid a little bit. Like, what is going on?
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: It'd be like that or like, oh, don't match with
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: me if you don't plan a message. No ghosting. Real
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: women only. Don't hit me up if you just want
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: a free meal. It's like, okay, so you are bitter
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and I need you to go to therapy because this
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: is not for you. You sound like Matt James. This
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: is how.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: You're starting off. I haven't even met you. I don't know.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I hadn't even had time to read your name.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: But you got a hell of a request. So, basically,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: a month later, okay, so, whoo, okay. So, through the app,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: he met Cecily Steinmetz. Ooh, that's a name, Steinmetz. I
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: just like the Z at the end. Who lived in Amarillo.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: It's Amarillo to Texas, but I say Amarillo.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Amarillo.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Amarillo. She lived in Amarillo, Texas. And that November in 2020,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: he proposed to her. Now, were we in the Ponderosa
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: in November? No, we didn't get there till March. We
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: didn't get there till March, okay.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: No, November 2020? Yeah.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, we were in the Pantene Probe. Oh, we have
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: been there for a minute.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: We were in the probiotic. Absolutely.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, and the gut health was not good. Um, so,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and one month later he, wait, so he met this girl, right?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: This is Cecily. He met her in November, 2020. And honestly, Cecily,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you. Cause she was probably like, damn,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I've been locked up in the house. Ain't had no
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: type of dig, you know, just trying to stay alive.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: We understand.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: We're proud of you sis. Get your dig. And one
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: month later, he also proposed to a Kansas woman named
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Christy Schaefer. The woman believed that each of them were
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: in monogamous relationships. So he's with Cecily. He's also with Christy.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And then he also has a wife.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: He's this mambo number five ass life that he's living.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Is really going to come back to haunt.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: He's literally doing the whole Freak-a-Leek song. If you know,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: you know. So, getting caught in receipts. January 18th, Cecily
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: posted a Facebook photo with Jason. Ooh, Facebook will get
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you in trouble with the aunties, okay? Because the aunties
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: live for a Facebook post. The comments on the photo
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: start out with typical messages from friends. Someone wrote, beautiful couple, heart, heart.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: But on January 25th, Cecily commented on her own post. Oh, hey,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: might want to make sure mutual friends don't know your wife.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: So Cecily posted on her own post.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: She came to her own comments.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Her own comments.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: That is wild.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Right. So Cecily confronted Jason about being married, and he
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: tried to play it off by saying his marriage was
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: annulled in 2016. She said he even provided me with
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: a picture of falsified document, which I have verified to
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: be invalid. Damn. So he got a fake, a Norman document.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: He is a cop. He probably got access to paperwork.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Let's see this fake and Norman document. Yeah.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: So it says, notice this document contains sensitive data case number.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: And then he wrote it. He wrote it all in pen.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like a Norman. Don't they just, they don't
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: write this. Don't type this up.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: This doesn't seem legit it looks too small i mean
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: he did a one page annulment i feel like it
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: would have to be bigger than that it doesn't look
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: normal and it also looks now hold on why is
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: it all written in the same handwriting right.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Like the judge didn't have to do nothing or the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: court it's all his handwriting.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Right and are those signature i guess that's just writing
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: out the name so that could have been the same
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: person it's fishy i would have definitely made it as
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: a fake as well I mean, it was cute, though, because.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: He put a little copy, a little stamp on the corner.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, he did the paperwork fake. Absolutely. I fake some
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: paperwork in my life, and the copy's a good one.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, he used little boxes for checking. He used
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: the box format bullet points. He did what needed to
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: be done, I guess, in some ways.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did what he had to do. It's kind
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: of cute. You know, we always say you got to
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: be good at Photoshop and falsifying documents over here, okay?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I'm especially good at falsifying obituaries. Because that's how I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: got out of... That was like a sick-ass capitalistic thing
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: they used to do in college. If you were like, oh,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I can't make this exam, but then somebody died, they'd
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: be like, you got to bring in the obituaries. Like, bitch, what?
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're talking about.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: I see... That to me is so– if you're– look,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: at that point– also people who gave grades for attendance
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: in college in general, it's just like why do you care?
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: If I turn in the assignments, if I do the tests,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: if I'm like proving that I have the knowledge, then–
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: go away, get a life, get a grip.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Your ego just needs me to sit in here and
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: listen to you pontificate at length when I don't need to. Like,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here. Also, how fucking morbid
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: is it that I have to turn in a damn, oh, bitch, where, like, bitch,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: would you want me to take a selfie by the casket? Like,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: let me, and put today's newspaper next to it so
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I know why you missed the exam. Bitch, what?
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Hold up the number two. Hold up the number two
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: in a newspaper. I want to see it.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Give you specific instructions.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: What am I, an inch?
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: So.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: So another woman, damn, so he done brought up these
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: little documents and tried to play it off, right? So
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: she found out the documents were fake. This is Cecily.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: So another woman, Christy, remember, then commented, damn, they all
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: friends on Facebook? Goddamn. Then commented and said that she
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: had also been dating Jason. So I'm guessing, like, this
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: is a messy Facebook thing where you know if you
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: get tagged in a photo, even if you don't follow
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the person that tagged the photo, you can still see
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the photo.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So, Jason, why you ain't untagged? Because that means that
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Christy was on your Facebook and saw this photo.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Right, so now Christy from Kansas knows that the scam
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: is on as well. This is really messy.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: And Christy said they have been engaged since December 2020. Now... He.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Proposed to the other girl in November.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Now, did this only work because we were in a pandemic?
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Because I'm like, y'all, how are you engaged to somebody
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and you don't, obviously you can't see them every night
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: because he got a wife and a girl, another girlfriend.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: So are you engaged and you see this dude like
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: once every two weeks? I am confusion.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: You know, this is the thing, though, is this happens
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: all the time. I know this kind of stuff happens
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: all the time outside of the Panini. And I think
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: it's because people are fucking lonely, capital L, and they
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: will just convince themselves of anything. He'll be like, I
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: need to go. I need to be on the road
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: for work for three months. He's a cop. You don't
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: really go on the road. I mean, people are just like,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: sounds good.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: We're going on a police tour. You know, they're doing
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of Black Lives Matter up in D.C., so
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: we're going to be up there on tour. Right, right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Protesting alongside them as friends and compatriots.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: So then, wow, Jason's girlfriend started to compare stories about him,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: including videos, photos, and excuses he made in an attempt
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: to cover his tracks while cheating on everyone involved. Cecily
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and Christy commented that they were... say he was he
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: would say he was working on special police assignments just
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: like you said caleb he said he was uh-huh he
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: was at police palooza.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: He was at he was at a police conference on
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: uh how to violate people's rights and he just could
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: not be around.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: You know, do you want to violate more people's rights
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: a day? Are you only doing like five violations a day?
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: You want to step it up? It's so funny that
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: you mentioned protests because he also said that he would
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: be at protests in Portland or the aftermath of Christmas
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Day in downtown Nashville, that bombing that happened. Cecily wrote, wow,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the weekend of the 16th, he told me he was
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: in Lubbock helping his disabled brother. Christy replied, wait, his
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: brother is disabled? Nope, we were in Wichita. He broke
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: his window at my home and he went to get
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: it fixed.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: What?
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Now, so did he smash a window in his own car?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: He said, he said, he said, I got to get
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: out of here and she's not going for anything. And
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: then he took a tire under the window and said, fuck,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: I got to go get that fixed. He bought himself
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: two weeks on the road.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Right. So Cecily and Christy also both discovered that Jason
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: had bought each of them the same gift, a coffee maker.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Must've been getting them on sale. Suddenly a third woman
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: came forward to say that she was also dating Jason too,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: as well, in addition to. angie bowman posted on the
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: city of stinnett's facebook page oh she posted on the
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: city page.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Angie said enough i'm going straight to the source i
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: want to know other women if you can see this
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: come on she's trying to collect she's trying to she's
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: trying to make a book club out of it.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Right she's saying y'all come on over here who who
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: gonna bring the hors d'oeuvres i got the wine We
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: about to start a sorority. Jason's girls.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Fucking Jason. Jason's girls, exactly.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: So then she went straight to the point and blew
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: that shit up. Angie's son, Brett, added more in the
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Facebook group dedicating it to Jason's many girlfriends. He said,'
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: My mother was in a dating relationship with Jason Collier
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: in 2007. Jason claimed that his wife and the mother
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: of his three-year-old daughter was dead. Jason said that he
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: had a crazy ex-girlfriend who turned out to be his
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: wife who was not dead.' mother my mother met his
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: entire family and they did not say a word about
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: his current wife or the involvement.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Not the family being in on it i you know
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: what though i have to say i really respect the
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: family for that they're like you know that's a good
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: family jason's doing what he's doing let him be don't
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: everyone just keep your mouth.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Shut That's a good family. My family's like that. You
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: bring somebody around. We know that your wife, like we're
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: going to talk cash shit when she leaves. We're going
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to be like, oh my God, here he go again.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: But in front of you, we're going to be like, oh,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: it's so nice to meet you. I heard so much
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: about you. What is your name?
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right. My family, my family would not. My
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: family would absolutely blow it up on the spot. They
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: would be like, who is this? And who is this now?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: And where's your wife and children? I wonder.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: That's good for your family. I like that. They're ethical.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: My family was all about the grift. They're like, we
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: I wish they weren't. I wish they weren't. Cause someday
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I could be trying to pull off a scam. You
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: never know. I might, I might have 17 girlfriends. Right.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: There'll be more than one scam going on. If I,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: if I had 17 girlfriends.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Have I been in situations where I knew someone
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: was married and they were not with their partner? Absolutely.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. You have to. Sometimes it's that way. Sometimes it
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: goes that way.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: All right, I was like, well, I'm going to pray
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: for y'all. Like, what am I supposed to do? I'm
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: going to cheat police? I'm not a police officer. Right.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Ain't no badge. So, another woman. Damn, not another woman.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: We are at quintuple life now because they say, what
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: we say, double, triple life. This is, I feel like
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: we're at five because who we got?
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Christy, Sisley, Angie, and then the wife would make four, right?
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Freakily. Yeah, that's four.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Freakily.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Because we got Christy, Cecily, Anna. And then now we
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: got Heather.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, we have Heather?
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Heather Owen. She's pulling up to the party as well.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Another woman, Heather Owen, posted photos with Jason and shared
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: other details. Yep, same thing. Didn't propose, but kept telling
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: me he loved me. Was talking about the future and
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: moving away to Wyoming. Oh, what a dream. Y'all gonna
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: look next to Kanye?
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: He's going to take you to Jackson Hole. What's going on?
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: This is not exciting. He's got other girlfriends. You need
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: to check it out. Get on the Facebook page.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Moving to Wisconsin. It's so tropical there. He portrayed himself
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: as a Christian man. Would pray for our relationship and future. Well,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: he did need to pray for it because... God was
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: not involved. Yeah.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Intervention was going to be needed because this is not
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: going to work out just with, uh, without, without God's help.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: This was not going to go over.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Right. He had had me thinking that I had found Mr. Perfect.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: So a friend of mine seeing me fall hard and
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: fast for this guy decided to do some digging on him.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I called him out on his marriage and he sent
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: me the same BS and Norman papers.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: He was circulating them papers.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Right. And honestly, I will say he's doing something kind
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: of smart, which is when you're lying to multiple people, uh,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: You want to use the same annulment papers. You want
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: to get them the same gifts. You want to have
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: the same disabled brother in the story because then you
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: won't get tripped up on your own lie. That's pretty smart.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Like we talk about a lie journal, guys, right? Yeah,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: you can write down your thoughts and mental health stuff
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and helpful things. You can also write down your lies
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: so you can keep up with them, you know? Memorize them. So...
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: yeah he's he's he's got a good story going here
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and i'm proud of him cecily later added more to
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the facebook page he took me on shift wait oh
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: so he took me out on a shift with him
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: last night and last week as well but wouldn't introduce
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: me to the ladies in his office since according to
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: him they're bitches and one is mad i won't date
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: her sister the jig is up jason okay can we
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: see a picture of jason because he better be sexy Yeah, if.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: He's not hot, I'm going to be real pissed off.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: But there is a joke about Texas girls, and it's
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: also a meme, and I can say this because I
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: am from Texas, that Texas women will date ugly ass men. Right. Oh, no.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Not this. Not this. Oh, not this.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Not this thin blue line hat.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Not the sporty Oakley sunglasses. Not him looking like Lurch.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: not anything but this you.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Know what though in amarillo times are hard you know
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the fine men are slim to none so what you don't.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Know what you know what he might yeah he might
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: be the sexiest man in in amarillo who knows.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: He's the hottest guy in amarillo.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: He really could be people's sexiest people's sexiest cop in amarillo.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: They have a calendar it's just him he's on 12
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: months Right. Lord Jesus. So, the aftermath. January 28th, Jason
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: was arrested and booked in Hutchinson County Jail. Arrested?
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Now, for what?
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: For what?
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is Texas, though. I'm not from there.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: You are.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: You can tell me. I do imagine that cheating is
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: a crime in Texas.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: It is definitely not. And I'm like, they got some
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: old blue laws, but you know, ain't nobody enforcing those.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: You can't get a fish drunk, but you know, that's
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: kind of hard depending on how much water the fish
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: is in. What am I talking about?
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I've never tried. So he was charged with tampering with
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: a government record. Oh, so they didn't snitch about the
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: annulment papers.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: With the intent to defraud and harm because of the
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: false annulment papers, which is basically a felony. Wow.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, see, and he would know that too. That's crazy
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: that he was doing all this knowing that it was
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: a crime.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: So according to Texas state law, if convicted, he faces
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: 180 days to two years behind bars and a fine
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: up to $ 10, 000.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: That feels excessive to me. Now, I'm not about to
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: be out here standing for the popo, but for sending
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: a fake document that he never sent to the government,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: he just sent it to other women. Right.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: And also they're like with the intent to harm and defraud.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: It's like he wasn't like engaging them in a business deal.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: They wanted Dick and needed to feel comfortable about it.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Is it cool?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: No. No.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Should he go to jail for two years? Not for this.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: He should go to jail for being a cop. He
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: shouldn't go to jail for getting creative in his dating life.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: But I will have an I may destroy you moment
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and say that sex under false pretenses is considered assault. So,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: you know. Exactly.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: But then charge him for assault.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: If that's the angle we're going with, you know what
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Not like you sent a fake paper. Like, that's not
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: what we're really pressed about.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So his wife, Opal, has filed for divorce, according
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: to her attorneys. Well, girl, I don't know. Dig up
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: that papers because he didn't already did the filing for you.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: This ought to be easy. Right.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Half of it's already done. Go find those.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: So Jason sent an apology video to Cecily saying he
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: feels like the biggest piece of shit and he didn't
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: mean to hide anything or lie. How do you not
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: mean to hide anything or lie when you making up
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: whole fake? You sat in front of your computer and
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: constructed lies. I would say that's intentional. Let's see. We
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: got a video from old Jason right now. He is
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: not fine.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: We're going to get to see it.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Hey, sorry. I just feel like the biggest piece of shit.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: sorry mean to hide anything lie to you.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Jason he's he's doing the he's doing the I'm sorry
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: voice even he's getting that fake cry in. Right.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: He's trying to keep his eyes open so he can
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: get some water going.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right. He's still doing police work?
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: He's in the car ignoring calls.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Right, they were like, we gotta shoot out on 3rd Street.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: He's like, I'm sorry, boo. I'm sorry.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: He's absolutely ignoring a house fire right now. He's just like,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I cannot believe what I did to you. He's trying
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: to turn off the... He's like, how do I shut
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: the fucking volume off on this?
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Right. They're like, Officer Jason Collier, we have a baby
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: stuck in a tree hanging by one branch. He's like, baby.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I can't get the volume off on this shit. Anyway,
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: I never meant to lie.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Anyways.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: That's so funny.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I think you did mean to lie.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I think you did. When you opened up Photoshop and
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: sat in there for a couple, and you know it
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: took him hours, because this is not a man who's
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: good with tech.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: No.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: So you know he sat in there for hours planning
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: his defraudment. This guy.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: To just be honest, I would appreciate it if people
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: would stop. People are too obsessed with looking like good
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: people and not obsessed enough with being good people. And
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: so it's like, if you do some fuck shit, just
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: be like, okay, I wanted to date you, your homegirl too,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: and my wife. And you know, I got a little
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: carried away. Like, just be honest. You definitely lied. Like,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: you got paperwork lies. Those are real lies. So Cecily
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: posted on Facebook, and Cecily and Christy later said that
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: they experienced a form of love bombing, which is a
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: really dark, like, manipulative technique that you'll see. And if
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: you don't know what love bombing is, it's when someone
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: overwhelms you with loving words, actions, or behavior as a
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: manipulation technique. So typically, and this is something to watch
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: out for, y'all, because it is a scam, love bombing.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: If you meet somebody and they're automatically like, flying you out,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: buying you gifts, texting you all day long, like really
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: blowing you up. I know that can feel good, but
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the chances of that person being a love bomber are really,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: really high, which means they'll blow you up until they
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: get you comfortable in the relationship and then they'll be
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: completely fucking cold to you.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: And you have to ask yourself, too, with people like that,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: that it's like because, you know, you're probably thinking, oh,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: they're cute. They're funny. They're interesting. They have a good job. Now,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: if all of these things are true, you're probably not
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: the only person who's into them. So what is it
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: about you that's making like your willingness to be flown
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: out at the last minute, your willingness to like let
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: them win you over so quickly? It's like you got
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: to you got to think like, why is that attractive
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: to them? couldn't they do this with somebody in their
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: own city right and.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Also that it's not sane behavior it's okay to have
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: high self-esteem and be like look it's not i falls
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: in love with me immediately i'm like that's fine i
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: could see that right right right yeah caleb i think
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: you can see it as well you're like you know
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: i am wonderful i'm cute and you got dimples okay
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: so you know the girls may they may fall fast
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and hard but my thing is like it's just not
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: normal behavior because any sane discerning person wants to get
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: to know the person that they're dating right You know
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Right.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: It's weird. If anyone, if anyone ever approached me, well, okay.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: If anyone, my age, cause I guess older gay men
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: really do talk to me this way, but if anyone,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: my age, older gay men, man, well, it's actually kind
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: of sad. I don't really want to go in on them, but.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Um, you know, cause they, they, they, I mean, they're.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Trying to get something going. I mean, it is late
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: in the game. We are in the fourth quarter and
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: the clock is ticking. Right. So if a, if a
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: cute guy, my age hit me up and was like,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: I want to fly you to where I live. Well,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: first of all, I'd be like, I'll fly myself. You what?
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: You're not trying to get flewed out, Caleb? I don't know.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get flewed out. I'm going to get
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: flewed out. I don't like that. You got to have
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: a return ticket. No future.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: There we go. Exactly. But if some guy was like,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: I want to fly you out tomorrow, I'd be like,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I have a life. Are you out of your mind?
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Nobody's hot enough. Nobody's hot enough.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Nobody's hot enough.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Nobody. Nobody. Caleb, why are you lying?
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Look, to drop everything and let them have that control?
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: If Drake was like, come out right now. Drake?
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Drake?
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Drake? Drake?
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: What are we talking about?
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: The one who's had his kid from the world and
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: his kid from the sun in the world? Drake? I know.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Drake is corny, but I still have a thing for him.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: If he was like, come get flewed out, I might be... Okay, well,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I do work under contract, so I guess I can't
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: just be.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, so here we go. This is exactly what I'm
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: talking about. So there we go. So it all comes
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: out then. So there's nobody then.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Come on now. I would eat some wings in an
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Atlanta strip club with Drake on a Thursday afternoon. Why not?
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: It's called living.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I thought.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, there are a lot of hot people out there.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: We'll have to see. You know what? If you're a
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: hot guy listening to this and you're into me, call
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: me and we'll see what's up.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Right. Try to fly Caleb out and let's see if
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: he says yes or no.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I need a real world example.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: So.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Senate Police Department's Facebook page and Collier's personal profile have
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: been deleted. Damn, they deleted the whole police department Facebook page.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: God damn.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: That's honestly kind of iconic. We should get more cops
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: to do adultery if this is where it's headed.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: They were like, all right, well, LAPD HQ is now deleted.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: We no longer will be taking tweets. We'll no longer
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: be covering up cop murders with fun tweets.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: We're out of here. Y'all brought too much drama to
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: the space, so we're leaving.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Right. Oh, y'all so messy.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: Is it us?
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. So the page posted that the city
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: is taking this seriously and will be looking into any
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: violations of police policy. Chief Jason Collier has been placed
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: on leave while the city investigates. As per city policy,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: we will refrain from commenting on any personal issues of
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: personnel in the public forum. One Facebook group said... It's
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: a Jason Collier Netflix series, and it has more than
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: 34,000 members.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: It's gone now, but they, I guess, made a Facebook
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: page where they were pitching this as a Netflix series.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I would like to see it. I don't know how
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: he kept it up.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: I'll watch it. You can believe that.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: And the situation has even inspired a song. And we
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: have a clip of this song. It ain't Texas if
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: you don't make a song about some adultery. Let me
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: hear some of that song. Not with this guitar. So
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: who's singing this song? The Ballad of Jason Collier.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Not doing this in his guest bedroom either.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Jason Collier.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's into it.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Jason Collier. Was the chief of police.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Way down in Stittin, Texas.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Down in Stittin, Texas. Yeah. Jason had a secret.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: That he kept from his wife. And all four of
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: his children.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: He lived a secret life.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Here we go. Jump, jump, jump.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Get down real low.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Secret life that he kept from his wife.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: This isn't good and it's not creative. All right, we.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Can stop it. You know, if you let me do
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: some ad-libs in the back, if I get some....
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: It's giving me nothing.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: It is giving nothing. It needs some Migos ad-libs in
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the back. To those white... Yeah.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: It needs something. It needs something. Cause right now it's giving,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: it's giving negative. It's actually, let me get, let me
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: hop on that track.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Let me hop on that track. See what I can do.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: But you know what? That means that this probably was
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: like a really fun scandal for the town. I'm actually
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: really happy for the town because it's probably dry out
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: there and stint. And they were like, yes, 34,000 people
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: in a Facebook group. They really trying to get a
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Netflix series.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And they, I think they, it would be like
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: media representation for them. You know what I mean? Like,
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: it would be like we, to see ourselves, not just
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: cause I mean, if they just want to see white
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: people on TV, they could do that, but they want
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: to see, they want to see like Texas adulterer. That's
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: not something you see every day.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Exactly. I'm like, if you want to see white people
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: on TV, you just turn the TV on and they
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: will be there.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Walk down the street. It's playing on, it's playing on
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: the billboard.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Even on BET, you turn BET on, you still gonna
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: see some white people within the first 30, 40 seconds.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Are you?
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: I would love to be like, one of my biggest
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: dreams is that they would reboot in living color and
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: let me be the stupid white guy.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, you would kill that.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: I just get dunked on in every sketch. I just
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: play like a stupid mechanic. I would just love that.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: I think that would be a blast.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I would love that for you.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: I would love that for you. Thank you.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: So Jason, no word on yet if he's going to
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: the clink for all of his wife fraud. But, you know,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: shout out to... I don't know if I can shout
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: him out. Fucking crud.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like she said, shout out to the police.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Shout out to our men in blue. Oh no! thank
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: you guys so much it's a pro police pod shout
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: out to.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: The cops could you fucking imagine I will say I
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: have been tempted to get one of those thin blue
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: line stickers on my car I'm like do they not
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: pull you over as much if you get that if
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: you're like I'm down for racism against me I stopped
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: Leave you alone In college, I had political leftist stickers
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: all over my car and I stopped doing that shit
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: because I got made fun of at the mechanic. Cops
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: were mean to me. I was like, I'm just going
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: to keep my mouth shut as far as my car goes.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when them coexist stickers. Right.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: It's not going to work. It's not for me. It's
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: not for me, Bernie. I'm sorry. I can't have your
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: sticker around anymore, babe.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Right. I'm not trying to get keyed. You know, I
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: support you, but I don't want my car keyed. That's fair.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: All right, guys. Well, that brings us to the saddest
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: part of the show. We'll be back after some non-scam
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: advertisements and then I'll have to let Caleb go. Robbery! Caleb,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: we're back. It's the saddest part of the show. Scammer
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: of the week. It's fun, but I have to let
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you go after this. So Scammer of the Week, guys,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: is where we highlight one charlatan that we think is
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: worthy of our praise.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Or not.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: We will see. But this is 37-year-old LaDonna Wiggins. Love
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: the name. Love a LaDonna.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, LaDonna. Okay, LaDonna.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: She's also from Texas. Houston, Texas, the ratchet part. Y'all
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: know how I feel about Houston, Texas. I am from Dallas.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: She's accused of buying dozens of luxury items using CARES
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Act money. According to a statement, Wiggins submitted two Paycheck
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Protection PPE loan applications and received more than $ 3. 6 million. What?
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: I thought this.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Was going to say $ 3. 6 million.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: $ 3.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: 6 million?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: The government. I mean, good for her already. I'll say
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: good for her already.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: What's so upsetting is how many unhoused people we could
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: give homes to with this kind of money, but we're like, oh,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: you have a business? Okay, we won't look into that.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Because we're too lazy. That's crazy. 3.6 million is crazy.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Allegedly, Wiggins used the money to make personal purchases, including
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: two homes, multiple vehicles, and luxury goods. The Justice Department
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: lists some of the purchases at nearly $ 725, 000 for homes
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: in Katy and Cypress. You can get a good home
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: for that kind of money in Texas, honey.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: $ 78, 000 for a 2020 Land Rover.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: Eww. Skrt, skrt.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: $ 63, 000 at Chanel. That's very easy to do. It's like
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: eight bag. Like, well, no, it's like... it's like we'll
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: get a solid 17 bags for 63 grand yeah good
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: for you um and then 46 000 at neiman marcus
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: and 14 000 at apple if convicted wickens faces up
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: to 30 years in federal prison and possible one million
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: dollar maximum.
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  Speaker 3: Fine don't send her to prison i mean just take
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: just take all the shit away from her charge her
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: some money like prison i mean God, we have so
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: much worse shit going on than stealing from the government.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: I just feel like I'm really happy for her. And
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: you know what? For a moment, she was living really large.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: I bet it was iconic to be running around buying
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: everybody's meals. I bet she was having a lot of fun.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: I'm happy for her.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: 63K and Chanel, that's popping. You know? Yeah. On the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: debit card, you're a boss bitch. But also, my thing is,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: she got too greedy. You didn't think the government was
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: going to miss $ 3. 6 million? Right.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: You should have done less. Absolutely, you should have done less.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there are people who did less PPE who
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: were getting away with it because they're trying to get
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: like also the government. Like, who are y'all? Why are
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: y'all giving three point six million dollars to a small business?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: What? Yeah.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: What small business in Texas was going to make three
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: point six million anyway? Like, what were you thinking? That's crazy.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Small business? 3.6 million? No, I don't think so.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I know. That's at least an extra medium business. It's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: not a small business. Right.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: You're not doing 3.6 million in profit. Presumably more. For
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: the government to give you 3.6 million.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: As a subsidy.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: To me, yeah, presumes that you were projected to or
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: expected to make even more than that. That's not a
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: small business.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: No, it's quite, quite a lot. Also, I'm just like, girl,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: like you can just get 100K and chill like you
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: need to get there. I can't even imagine getting checks
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: for three point six million dollars from the government and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: being like, let me go put this in my bank account.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: What? Yeah, I would have. Absolutely. You know, if I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: was going to scam that same scam, I would get.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: $ 500, 000 and I would just buy a house in like
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Missouri and then I would just chill out. And then if,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: you know, if you get charged for that, that's like
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: maybe what, like a lot less time in jail probably
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: because of the scale of it.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. But I mean, at the end of the day,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: all government funds are our crowdsource money, which is why
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I really want to eliminate the phrase government handouts. The
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: government ain't giving nobody shit. They took that shit from you.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: So you ought to want them to give it back
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: to people who don't have as much as you so
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: that those people aren't suffering. Right. And also maybe so
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: your neighborhood can be safer because they don't feel the
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: need to steal because they have things.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Right, it's our money.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: It's so bizarre. It's our money.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: It's our money. And the only thing about taxes that
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: ever makes me mad... You know, it's kind of funny because...
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: I've been thinking about this a lot lately, actually. Because
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: when I was growing up in Missouri, all the Republicans
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: I knew that were adults would be like... I would
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: be like, I'm a Democrat. You know, I'm like 15.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: Of course, I don't know what I'm talking about. But
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: they're like, when you get a job, you won't feel
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: that way. And then I got a job at Applebee's.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: And I was like, no, I still feel... I understand
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: I'm making less money because the government takes it. But
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: I think that's good.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: You know, well, they're like, when you make real money
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: and I make more money than they do and I
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: still feel how I feel. So I'm like, what is
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: the truth here? When do you guys just accept that
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: you're selfish? You know what I mean?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Like. It's not even selfish because if anything, the pandemic
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: taught us that the government don't give a fuck about
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: none of us. They give us money to go to space.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, bitch, Earth is bad. The fuck we need
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: to be trying to colonize Mars for? It's bad over here. Like,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: what you mean let's start over? We could just finish this.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: We could just get to the end of this, the Earth. Like, what?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Well, we are getting to the end of Earth pretty quickly.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: So at least we're doing that.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I love the capital. So like, look, we could try
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: to save the planet or we can move to Mars
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: and just do it all over again. What y'all say?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: The remix?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't think also, I don't think
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: rich people have any morals or like understanding of most
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: of them, any understanding of like life beyond themselves. So
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: they're like, oh, 40 years left for Earth to exist.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: Sick.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: I'll be out of here in like 35. No problem.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: No problem.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: It ain't no problem. That ain't no problem. The earth
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: is warming. Ain't no problem.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: I'm 70.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: I'm 70.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: So let it get hot. That's fine.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: And also, I think that people really need to acknowledge
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: that it's okay to be privileged. All of us are
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: privileged in some way. If you live with a roof
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: over your head, guess what? You have privileges that other
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: people don't. If you have certain rights that other people
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: do or don't because of the restrictions in our government
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: and how hateful it is, you have privilege. You can
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: still be a hard worker. I hate that people conflate
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the two. Like if you call someone privileged, they're like, no,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I worked for the things I have. I'm like, you
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: can be a hard worker and have privilege at the
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: same time. It's okay. Like no one's taking your hard
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: work away from you. Yeah.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: And also you didn't work for everything you have. You
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: can't like, there's no such thing. There's no, there's no
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: such thing as a self-made person.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: When you were an unemployed baby, if somebody left your
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: bitch ass in the woods, guess what? You would not
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: be where you are today. So you didn't work as
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: an unemployed baby. Somebody took care of you.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Right chomp chomp you would have been some you would
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: have been some animals dinner is what you would have right.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ever got out the womb and was like
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: time to work except for maybe blue ivy you know
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: blue ivy got out she was in the womb doing
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: tracks you know other than her the rest of y'all
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: babies is unemployed and lazy okay and broke.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: And useless and not contributing babies are the grifters of
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: this of the of life they are babies are such
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: grifters they're winning And I miss it.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I miss, I wish, I wish we could remember infancy,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: but it's probably a good thing because I'm sure that's why,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: because that's why parents can fuck up and drop you
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: and shit. You won't remember it.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: It's all right.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: My sister fell off a couch. She fine.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: We think, we hope, we don't know.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, this is looking good so far, but guys,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: that brings us to the end of another episode. Caleb,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: we always ask, where do you want to be found?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, you know, you can find me on the streets
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: of LA. You can run up to me. We can
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: be friends. Don't do that. I'm just kidding. You know,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: I'm on social media at Caleb Says Things. And I
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: think that's about it.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Caleb is really, really funny on Twitter. He's really,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: really funny on Insta. He makes hilarious videos. Guys, get
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: after it. It's such a great follow. As always, if
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: you want to find us, Scam Goddess Pod, on all platforms.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: If you want to find me, D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I-D, Valacia, on all platforms. Finally,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I can talk about it. A Black Lady Sketch Show
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: comes out April 23rd. I have scammed my way to HBO, guys.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: So you can watch it on HBO and HBO Max.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: And then also the reboot of iCarly. That'll be out
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: this summer. And I'll give you guys more details as
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: they come. And then as always, Wednesday nights on ABC's
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: The Con, I will be talking about grifters and criminals
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: as a scam expert. I gave myself a PhD in scams.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Don't ask any questions about me.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: I'm so, you know what? Good for HBO. Good for ABC.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Good for whoever's doing iCarly. This is so exciting. I'm
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: so pumped.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Paramount Plus, scam yourself into another app.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: And I love that.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: You need one more app. You need one more app, guys.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: You need Paramount Plus.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: You can stop after you get Paramount Plus. Get Paramount
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Plus and then we can all stop.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: No, we're all good. We'll all say no after that.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: And I will come up with some kind of app
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: streaming provider service for y'all. I'm going to call it Cable. Cable.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Not cable, but cable.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: And it's going to be a bundle service where we
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: bring a bunch of channels together. It's going to be cool.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's just basically you using my passwords, but paying
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: me a nominal fee.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, guys.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: All right, congregation. Stay scheming. This has been an Earwolf
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess is starring me,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: the Scam Goddess, a.k.a. Lacey Mosley. Scam Goddess is produced
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: by Chelsea Jacobson and engineered by Marina Baez with research
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: by Sherilyn Vera. Stay scamming!