Latest / The Calcio Guys / Juve out of Coppa Italia: Reaction with Anthony from The AJC - Ep. 255
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row of disaster. I want to
- 0:07Speaker 1: say here on the Couch Guys podcast, but at least
- 0:08Speaker 1: for the teams we follow. Adriano, Janny M. Nicholas joined
- 0:11Speaker 1: this week from Olivia cast Anthony, Scott Sky or Tony.
- 0:15Speaker 1: I asked you before. I tried to ask you before, Tony,
- 0:17Speaker 1: but my my Mike wasn't working you for Anthony or
- 0:20Speaker 1: Tony either.
- 0:21Speaker 2: One Tony is good.
- 0:22Speaker 1: One I like. I like Tony. My dad's Tony, So
- 0:25Speaker 1: I think I'll go.
- 0:25Speaker 2: To it and short intro music.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been using guys, We've been using stream Yard
- 0:34Speaker 1: how long and they always had the same intro music
- 0:36Speaker 1: and this is the first week that it changed. So
- 0:38Speaker 1: I don't know someone from Streamyard decided to change it up.
- 0:41Speaker 3: But I explained why your headphones are It's all stream
- 0:44Speaker 3: Yard's fault.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. But couture guys. You can follow us
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- 0:53Speaker 1: Listen to us on your favorite podcasting platforms. One change
- 0:57Speaker 1: that was made this past year was a coaching We're
- 1:00Speaker 1: gonna talk a lot of it today on the podcast. Uh,
- 1:03Speaker 1: but the last week, what happened sometimes the grass isn't
- 1:09Speaker 1: greening greener on the other side heard that. But you
- 1:14Speaker 1: know last week, last week we talked to Melan. You
- 1:16Speaker 1: know they've got they lost in the Champions League. You know, yes,
- 1:19Speaker 1: you've lost the Champions League last week as well. We
- 1:21Speaker 1: didn't go in full detail, but Cobley lost huge upset
- 1:24Speaker 1: today against Empley one one. Uh lost five three on Talentley.
- 1:29Speaker 1: I mean, Anthony, let's or Tony, let's go, let's get
- 1:31Speaker 1: right into it. Shocked at all by this sort of
- 1:33Speaker 1: hault or what?
- 1:35Speaker 2: Hmm, that's a good question. Am I upset about it?
- 1:39Speaker 1: No?
- 1:40Speaker 4: Uh?
- 1:41Speaker 2: Am? I shocked?
- 1:41Speaker 5: You have to be when you're playing when it's when
- 1:44Speaker 5: essentially Juventus' opponent was US four in matching jerseys, right,
- 1:51Speaker 5: you gotta win, You gotta beat that team when they're
- 1:54Speaker 5: they're basically playing when you where's them playing in.
- 1:57Speaker 2: The standings relegation I think seventeenth and they're playing their
- 2:02Speaker 2: B side.
- 2:03Speaker 5: There's really not a lot of excuses you can make
- 2:05Speaker 5: when you essentially have your A team out there. So
- 2:09Speaker 5: shock would be surprised. Yeah, we'll say I'm surprised. I'm upset, No, surprised.
- 2:14Speaker 3: Yes, what happened with the ten d situation because I
- 2:19Speaker 3: was out and about like doing Irans and stuff and
- 2:22Speaker 3: doing school work.
- 2:23Speaker 6: But MAT had to go in nets like, well what happened?
- 2:30Speaker 2: Uh?
- 2:30Speaker 5: He tormally starts to copey Italian matches. So I didn't
- 2:33Speaker 5: hear anything about.
- 2:35Speaker 3: I heard I heard something because I was on like
- 2:38Speaker 3: I was trying to follow along on Twitter and stuff,
- 2:40Speaker 3: and then I heard something about ban and I'm like, okay,
- 2:42Speaker 3: well did something happen, like like he's pretty standard for
- 2:49Speaker 3: I'm asking because I don't know, and I was just
- 2:50Speaker 3: I was just curious myself, and maybe that was a
- 2:52Speaker 3: factor of things.
- 2:55Speaker 2: A factor today.
- 2:56Speaker 5: Wow, he kept it from being probably a little bit worse, right.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say it's not goaltending that
- 3:04Speaker 1: was the issue. I mean, you know, if you if
- 3:08Speaker 1: you see the goal, you know he got kind of
- 3:11Speaker 1: got his hands on it with the Gurgoya and made
- 3:13Speaker 1: a save there probably not let's be honest. You know
- 3:17Speaker 1: there was a one penalty you kind of stopped but
- 3:19Speaker 1: not really and and you know went in. But no,
- 3:22Speaker 1: it's not on goaltending for me. It's I mean, I
- 3:25Speaker 1: love to hear Tony's thoughts, but Uh, for me, it's
- 3:29Speaker 1: obviously team effort, but it comes down to the final
- 3:31Speaker 1: third just not clinical enough. And it seems like it's
- 3:33Speaker 1: been the issue all.
- 3:34Speaker 5: Season, right, Well, there's been a how do you boil down? Uh,
- 3:39Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of macro issues. You can say,
- 3:42Speaker 5: you know, is it Juley, the players he brought in?
- 3:44Speaker 2: Is it his system?
- 3:46Speaker 5: Is it the players? Is is it the chemistry? Is
- 3:49Speaker 5: that the injuries? Is it ja medical? I think you're
- 3:52Speaker 5: kind of getting a little bit of everything.
- 3:55Speaker 2: You have.
- 3:55Speaker 5: One person's upset about this. One persons set about that.
- 3:59Speaker 5: And we were talking in our group chat at the
- 4:01Speaker 5: AJAC after and it's like on a micro if you're
- 4:05Speaker 5: looking just at this game, you you really got to
- 4:10Speaker 5: put it on the players. It's on multi. You know,
- 4:13Speaker 5: he's got to get his team ready. I understand that,
- 4:16Speaker 5: but at some point in some games. I'm not saying
- 4:19Speaker 5: as a whole in the season, because again it's a
- 4:21Speaker 5: it's a team, right, it's a whole. The whole group
- 4:24Speaker 5: has to wins and lose together. But as a team
- 4:28Speaker 5: like you just you're a stronger team, you have to
- 4:31Speaker 5: you just have to figure out how to beat a
- 4:33Speaker 5: weaker side and that falls on the players. Multa has
- 4:37Speaker 5: to put the right guys out there.
- 4:38Speaker 2: I get that.
- 4:39Speaker 5: Uh you know some people are saying, well, you'll just
- 4:41Speaker 5: just started this and that it shouldn't come down to
- 4:43Speaker 5: one or two players top to bottom, keeper to striker.
- 4:48Speaker 2: You are a better team today and you just.
- 4:50Speaker 5: Have to figure it out. Sometimes the players just have
- 4:52Speaker 5: to figure it out. If you want to get into
- 4:55Speaker 5: the whole season. That's a that's a longer conversation, which
- 4:58Speaker 5: I'm happy to have, but for today, think just to
- 5:00Speaker 5: boil it down, players have.
- 5:02Speaker 2: To figure it out. Patin did what he could.
- 5:06Speaker 5: I didn't think we played that right at the back,
- 5:08Speaker 5: but just no ideas up front, and that to your point, Nick,
- 5:13Speaker 5: that's sort of been our crutch all season, just not
- 5:16Speaker 5: a lot of ideas up front.
- 5:19Speaker 3: What do you guys make of Matta's comments after the
- 5:21Speaker 3: fact about you know, like there's just being dessert versus
- 5:26Speaker 3: expecting results and stuff like.
- 5:29Speaker 6: Do you feel like as if that's Mata kind.
- 5:34Speaker 3: Of throwing the bit of the like throwing the ship
- 5:37Speaker 3: back towards the players and it's like, look, you can
- 5:39Speaker 3: you can argue me, but there's like something's got to
- 5:42Speaker 3: give to or do you think it's Manta trying to,
- 5:44Speaker 3: you know, save face.
- 5:45Speaker 6: Like, what do you guys make of that?
- 5:50Speaker 2: Did you want to start that one?
- 5:51Speaker 1: Nick? I know, ah Mata does a lot of talking
- 5:56Speaker 1: for a coach that doesn't get the results. Let's just
- 5:59Speaker 1: put it out. I know, I know at the end day,
- 6:04Speaker 1: you know, after every game, there's gonna be a press conference.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Is that? And Allegory was the same too, right? Like
- 6:08Speaker 1: sometimes the biggest highlight of the match was the post
- 6:11Speaker 1: mass post match press conference. I didn't really like I
- 6:17Speaker 1: saw I saw the quote you're talking about, Jenny. Yeah,
- 6:21Speaker 1: it's hard to decipher, right, Like is he blame?
- 6:24Speaker 4: You know?
- 6:24Speaker 1: Certain parts of what he's saying is like, yeah, it's
- 6:26Speaker 1: on him. Other parts it's it seems like he's being
- 6:28Speaker 1: blaming the players. I wonder if also some things are
- 6:31Speaker 1: just lost in translation too, right or or like depending
- 6:35Speaker 1: on what you know, which social media county saw Like
- 6:38Speaker 1: some counts I see they post pretty much every single
- 6:41Speaker 1: quote from the press conference, so it looks as if
- 6:43Speaker 1: he's saying it all at once, but in reality it's
- 6:46Speaker 1: different questions, different quotes. So uh, you know, I'm not
- 6:49Speaker 1: personally I wouldn't luck look into that too much. You know,
- 6:53Speaker 1: I personally, I would like for him to just come
- 6:57Speaker 1: out and say, look, it's my fault that the guys
- 6:59Speaker 1: weren't prepared, were going to be prepared next day, as
- 7:01Speaker 1: simple as that. But you know, it's not an idea world.
- 7:04Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think, Tony.
- 7:05Speaker 5: He did say that, he did say he did take
- 7:07Speaker 5: responsibility today. I do see how people would say, well,
- 7:11Speaker 5: it looks like he's kind of throwing ship up the
- 7:12Speaker 5: players as well.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Can he can't? Coaches throw shit.
- 7:17Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys follow college basketball and anyway,
- 7:20Speaker 5: watch this, you guys, take a look at what the
- 7:23Speaker 5: UCLA basketball coach said about his players on Wednesday or
- 7:27Speaker 5: last week. He said, I'm the only one in the
- 7:29Speaker 5: building who works around here. So sometimes coaches do just
- 7:33Speaker 5: like just say well, so they just throw their hands up.
- 7:35Speaker 5: I don't think Monta was throwing his hands up today.
- 7:37Speaker 5: But he has to take responsibility first and foremost got
- 7:42Speaker 5: it his responsibility. But sometimes I don't have an issue
- 7:47Speaker 5: with the coach saying that the players just didn't perform
- 7:49Speaker 5: either because they didn't.
- 7:52Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, listen, if he's what he said, what he
- 7:54Speaker 7: didn't say at the end of the day, there's some
- 7:56Speaker 7: truth in that.
- 7:57Speaker 4: And whatever was said, there's some truth.
- 7:59Speaker 7: In it because at the end of the day, I
- 8:02Speaker 7: don't know whoever was able to watch the game today.
- 8:04Speaker 4: That first half was terrible. It was terrible. I'm sorry,
- 8:07Speaker 4: just looking from the outside.
- 8:08Speaker 7: End and not trying to be a hater, but because
- 8:10Speaker 7: we can hit on you ve all day and the
- 8:12Speaker 7: mean Johnny, but it was terrible, you know, And and
- 8:17Speaker 7: I know I saw and me and Tony were talking
- 8:19Speaker 7: about it bit uh you know, off air before you
- 8:21Speaker 7: guys settled in there. But it could have been more
- 8:25Speaker 7: than what the score one was. You know, it could
- 8:27Speaker 7: have been two three one, potentially two three zero, like
- 8:30Speaker 7: if that second half goal doesn't happen, right, So I
- 8:33Speaker 7: was seeing people saying, oh, I shouldn't even went to
- 8:35Speaker 7: went to went to the penalty shootout.
- 8:37Speaker 4: I mean, not for nothing.
- 8:39Speaker 7: But you know, you is even lucky that it did
- 8:41Speaker 7: go the distance because they would have you know, they
- 8:44Speaker 7: actually had a chance to to to to pull it out.
- 8:47Speaker 7: But you know, at the end of the day, like
- 8:50Speaker 7: you know, you can blame whoever you want. It's it's
- 8:53Speaker 7: tough when you lose. There's there's so much blame to
- 8:55Speaker 7: go around, and you know, not many people want to
- 8:57Speaker 7: take accountability.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Uh.
- 9:00Speaker 7: I'm not saying that's what happened in this case today,
- 9:02Speaker 7: but it's tough because, yeah, you know, maybe the the
- 9:07Speaker 7: you know, the manager in this case, Manta didn't prepare
- 9:09Speaker 7: his team the best.
- 9:10Speaker 4: But I don't know.
- 9:11Speaker 7: I don't think you've goes out and say, Okay, yeah today,
- 9:14Speaker 7: what's not what's not loose?
- 9:15Speaker 4: Like we're we're going to go there? Well, yeah, what's
- 9:17Speaker 4: lose today? You know, we's wester The newspapers like, I
- 9:20Speaker 4: don't think they do that right.
- 9:22Speaker 7: So a bit of it is on the players in
- 9:24Speaker 7: my opinion, and a bit of it is on him.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Uh.
- 9:27Speaker 4: It's it's fair to say because at.
- 9:29Speaker 5: The did the players did the players just not? Were
- 9:34Speaker 5: they not ready mentally because they're we're playing a weaker side,
- 9:37Speaker 5: we're starting soft.
- 9:39Speaker 7: Maybe because I know, if i'm I know Milan kind
- 9:41Speaker 7: of plays down to their opponents. I don't know if
- 9:43Speaker 7: you they do. I don't watch you the weekend and
- 9:45Speaker 7: week out, so I can't say, but it's it's possible.
- 9:50Speaker 7: And at the end of the day, I don't know,
- 9:51Speaker 7: maybe they're focused more is more on on the league,
- 9:54Speaker 7: which okay, you know you have every right to to
- 9:57Speaker 7: focus more on one competition.
- 9:59Speaker 4: That's fine, but you know, some accountability has to take place.
- 10:03Speaker 7: And if it's going to be the players or if
- 10:05Speaker 7: it's going to be you know, these core players of
- 10:06Speaker 7: this team, these leaders of of Juventus and and Mata,
- 10:10Speaker 7: you know that it has to happen because at the
- 10:13Speaker 7: end of the day, Mata can't put the ball in
- 10:14Speaker 7: the net, Mata can't save a save a penalty, you
- 10:17Speaker 7: can't go out and score penalty instead of Sky at Alexaza.
- 10:21Speaker 7: You know, it's it's accumulation of these things where where
- 10:24Speaker 7: you're going to point point the finger and you know,
- 10:27Speaker 7: I think there's multiple fingers you can point, sure, but
- 10:31Speaker 7: I think just moving on and just moving past this
- 10:34Speaker 7: is the is the case. But because really now their
- 10:38Speaker 7: only focus really now is is what guys, it's it's
- 10:41Speaker 7: it's trying to get into the top four for in
- 10:42Speaker 7: the league right in seah because Champions League out of
- 10:45Speaker 7: cop Italia super Copa didn't go their way.
- 10:48Speaker 4: It's it's only it's only top four that's the main priority.
- 10:51Speaker 7: Probably obviously the biggest goal for them, regardless or one
- 10:54Speaker 7: of the bigger goals.
- 10:55Speaker 4: But now it's it's really you know, do or die
- 10:58Speaker 4: for for that top four.
- 10:59Speaker 6: But I mean like it's it's sorry for interrupting, Tony.
- 11:02Speaker 3: It's like I feel like it's a for you, Ben
- 11:03Speaker 3: Teeny in general's frustrations because it's been a whole season
- 11:06Speaker 3: of just like subpar performance after stub Park performance, after
- 11:09Speaker 3: stuff Part performance, and it's like players that you know,
- 11:12Speaker 3: you've felt like have grown or had potential to you know,
- 11:16Speaker 3: finally fit into a role. And it's been maybe for
- 11:19Speaker 3: some players like Laovich, you know, it's been like almost
- 11:21Speaker 3: three years and it's still doesn't seem It's like, okay, buddy,
- 11:24Speaker 3: it's like how many chances are you going to get?
- 11:26Speaker 3: You know, and it's like don't forget new sporting director
- 11:28Speaker 3: with Juntu Lee, new manager and Mata you know, like
- 11:32Speaker 3: players coming in and out, sometimes deals falling through. It's
- 11:35Speaker 3: like I feel like it's understandable and like the defend
- 11:39Speaker 3: event is a bit I almost threw up on my
- 11:41Speaker 3: mouth there for a second. I'm just kidding around, just
- 11:43Speaker 3: kidding there.
- 11:44Speaker 4: It's about to hold the bucket for you, Johnny, because.
- 11:48Speaker 3: To defend uvent this for a second, you know like
- 11:50Speaker 3: it's it's I feel like this is kind of understandable
- 11:54Speaker 3: because you're in an in between zone of like moving
- 11:58Speaker 3: on from like an older project towards it's a newer
- 12:00Speaker 3: project from an outsider's perspective. Now, please guys correct me
- 12:03Speaker 3: if I'm wrong. It just it just feels like it's
- 12:05Speaker 3: a transition theory for vey. Now, Yes, it's going pretty
- 12:08Speaker 3: crappy because it's like, you know, like it's Juventus, right,
- 12:12Speaker 3: It's it's a team that is always expected to be
- 12:14Speaker 3: in the elite company of city y ah. But you know,
- 12:17Speaker 3: after experiencing what I saw at Napoly last year, I'm
- 12:21Speaker 3: never going to be surprised that sometimes the best teams
- 12:23Speaker 3: can have a really shitty season for lack of a
- 12:26Speaker 3: better term, from out of nowhere?
- 12:28Speaker 4: Is it?
- 12:29Speaker 3: Am I correct with making that kind of guess or assessment?
- 12:31Speaker 2: Tony?
- 12:31Speaker 4: What do you think?
- 12:32Speaker 5: Well, it's so I was on that on that mindset
- 12:37Speaker 5: for a long time.
- 12:38Speaker 2: It's rebuild for me.
- 12:41Speaker 5: You got to give the sporting director, I say, at
- 12:44Speaker 5: least three summer mercatos to figure out his team.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Right.
- 12:50Speaker 5: Junsley did a lot of work last summer on paper
- 12:53Speaker 5: Me and Adriana were talking about it before in the
- 12:55Speaker 5: green room. On paper, he did fantastic work for this season.
- 13:01Speaker 5: Now sort of basically halfway through the season, you know,
- 13:07Speaker 5: a lot of talk like watching all the events games,
- 13:10Speaker 5: and a lot of the uh, you know, a lot
- 13:15Speaker 5: of the multa out kind of. I'm not really I'm
- 13:17Speaker 5: not a multi out guy. But if a manager comes in,
- 13:22Speaker 5: he has to implement his system. So a lot of
- 13:24Speaker 5: the issues right now that 'vent teeny have is what
- 13:29Speaker 5: is his system? What like what no players are improving?
- 13:33Speaker 5: The team isn't improving. We have good halfs, like we
- 13:36Speaker 5: seem to have like a good first half, shitty second half,
- 13:39Speaker 5: and then the next game it's like, okay, bad second
- 13:42Speaker 5: half or whatever, bad first half, good s. It's like
- 13:45Speaker 5: we can't really seem to be consistent. So just even
- 13:50Speaker 5: if we were just consistent, I think a lot of
- 13:53Speaker 5: people would give multi a little bit more leash. But
- 13:57Speaker 5: it's the inconsistency that's really starting to drive people us.
- 14:01Speaker 5: And do you again me we were talking with this
- 14:06Speaker 5: in the green room, how much leash do you give?
- 14:09Speaker 5: Because a lot of people are just saying at the
- 14:10Speaker 5: end of the year, if you if all you get
- 14:12Speaker 5: is top four, Like, you know, at this point, the
- 14:15Speaker 5: way we got out of goptality, the way we left
- 14:18Speaker 5: Champions League, they're at a leash or do you give
- 14:22Speaker 5: a manager two years? But you know, it's it's hard
- 14:25Speaker 5: to argue against someone who says, well, we're not improving. Well,
- 14:30Speaker 5: what argument do I have to somebody to say, well,
- 14:32Speaker 5: must as at least improving the team?
- 14:34Speaker 2: Is he?
- 14:36Speaker 5: I haven't really seen it? Is it going to get
- 14:38Speaker 5: better in season in year two?
- 14:39Speaker 2: I hope so?
- 14:41Speaker 5: But you just we just haven't really seen it. But
- 14:45Speaker 5: again you kind of fall back to it's still technically
- 14:48Speaker 5: sort of a rebuild. It's it's a there's a fine
- 14:50Speaker 5: line and there's really it's so gray because you've just
- 14:54Speaker 5: trying to do so many changes at once that everything's
- 14:58Speaker 5: like there's a hyper focus on everything. Well, we spent
- 15:00Speaker 5: this much on Luis, we spent this much on Coke minors. Yeah, again,
- 15:05Speaker 5: that's we didn't really spend one hundred.
- 15:07Speaker 2: And sixty million last summer.
- 15:08Speaker 5: It's not like one hundred and six million left our books.
- 15:11Speaker 5: Like anyways, that's a whole different conversation. But like where
- 15:16Speaker 5: do you put that nick right? Like where do you
- 15:19Speaker 5: like a lot of people seem to be in their
- 15:20Speaker 5: lanes to say, you know, forget the rebuild.
- 15:24Speaker 2: You know, this is Juventus. You have to win.
- 15:26Speaker 5: Some people are like, well, we have to give it
- 15:28Speaker 5: a couple of old guys like me, or like we've been.
- 15:29Speaker 2: Through this before, we'll be fine.
- 15:31Speaker 5: But you know, it's hard to argue against people that say, no,
- 15:35Speaker 5: we should be winning now based on the team we
- 15:37Speaker 5: have on the field.
- 15:38Speaker 2: Can't argue with It's hard to argue.
- 15:41Speaker 1: I like what you said about you know system, and
- 15:45Speaker 1: it's kind of what I've been thinking too this whole time,
- 15:49Speaker 1: is like, what's Juve's identity? And listen, I don't mind
- 15:53Speaker 1: if the plan is, you know, take on this new management,
- 15:57Speaker 1: take us in this new coach, go through a reb
- 16:00Speaker 1: but make that make that your identity. Don't go out
- 16:03Speaker 1: and spend one hundred and seventy million. Okay, I know
- 16:06Speaker 1: it's not a real one hundred and seventy million like
- 16:08Speaker 1: you said, But if you're going through a rebuild, are
- 16:11Speaker 1: you why are you splash splashing that much cash? If
- 16:15Speaker 1: you're gonna go through rebuild, that's when you're you're you're
- 16:18Speaker 1: playing your younger players, you're keeping your miretees. You're keeping
- 16:21Speaker 1: your fudgolies. But on the other hand, if you want
- 16:24Speaker 1: to win now, it seems like for me, the moves
- 16:28Speaker 1: they made this summer, it seems like they want to
- 16:30Speaker 1: want it to at least win now. I didn't think
- 16:33Speaker 1: no way. I thought they'd like win the Scudetto this year.
- 16:36Speaker 1: But I've thought maybe, you know, comfortable top four at
- 16:41Speaker 1: least fight for the Scudetto type of finish. Obviously, I
- 16:44Speaker 1: didn't think they'd be this bad. And another, you know,
- 16:46Speaker 1: another thing I'm thinking is there they're playing the Club
- 16:49Speaker 1: World Cop in June. What's gonna happen? Are they going
- 16:53Speaker 1: to go out and embarrass themselves? They have a pretty
- 16:56Speaker 1: they have fairly easy group, two unknown clubs that I
- 16:59Speaker 1: forget who they are. I think it's in the Asian
- 17:02Speaker 1: Club and possibly an African Cup plus mad City, So
- 17:07Speaker 1: you know, get out of that group please. After that,
- 17:10Speaker 1: we'll see, We'll see how much, you know, how intense
- 17:13Speaker 1: this Club World Cup even is, right, because is it
- 17:16Speaker 1: like a mid you know, is it gonna be like
- 17:18Speaker 1: a postseason tournament. We'll see. But you know, one thing
- 17:23Speaker 1: I said on podcasts last week Tony is at this
- 17:26Speaker 1: point it feels like a waste to get rid of
- 17:29Speaker 1: Mata because this is their guy. Now you have to
- 17:31Speaker 1: you almost have to keep stick with him, at least
- 17:34Speaker 1: for one more season. I don't know if you agree
- 17:35Speaker 1: with that.
- 17:37Speaker 2: I do.
- 17:38Speaker 5: I again, I I see that point. I also see, well,
- 17:44Speaker 5: there's been known, real and pret you sort of want
- 17:47Speaker 5: to see improvements throughout the season. We haven't really seen that.
- 17:53Speaker 5: Some people say, well, look at all the brought in
- 17:55Speaker 5: sixteen new players, you have all these injuries. You're the
- 17:58Speaker 5: youngest team in Citia, our second youngest team. I think
- 18:02Speaker 5: bottom is the youngest team. So there's there's a there's
- 18:06Speaker 5: like this struggle of like do you keep them do
- 18:08Speaker 5: you not? I think ju is gonna stick with him.
- 18:10Speaker 5: He's June guy. He's gonna stick with him. The next year.
- 18:15Speaker 5: You know, we'll see how go the club broke up.
- 18:18Speaker 5: Send the next gen team. Don't even send your your
- 18:21Speaker 5: top players. Send next gen because originally it was supposed
- 18:24Speaker 5: to be what like fifty or sixty million dollars per club.
- 18:29Speaker 5: Now it's like nineteen. Send your next gen and don't
- 18:32Speaker 5: even bother.
- 18:33Speaker 2: Send the medical staff. Don't even worry about it, right.
- 18:36Speaker 5: Like give your give your your a team like the
- 18:40Speaker 5: summer off and I wouldn't even send munt over there
- 18:43Speaker 5: for it, you know, send whoever the the next gen
- 18:46Speaker 5: coaches send them over there, right. It would be a
- 18:49Speaker 5: shame for the fans. But like, what what are we
- 18:51Speaker 5: doing here? Like there was a promise an X number
- 18:54Speaker 5: of dollars. Now it's like half that or less than
- 18:56Speaker 5: half that.
- 18:56Speaker 2: I wouldn't even worry about it.
- 18:57Speaker 5: The fans would hate it, obviously. I have a tick
- 19:00Speaker 5: it to one of the games. But it's again getting
- 19:06Speaker 5: back to Mota. Jeez, it's it's really a tough one.
- 19:09Speaker 5: I've I was all like Molta in this is our guy,
- 19:12Speaker 5: but he's he's really not shown me a lot.
- 19:16Speaker 7: Yeah, but even I mean looking like again for me
- 19:19Speaker 7: and Johnny kind of looking inside out from the outside in.
- 19:21Speaker 7: Sorry for me personally, I would and I told Tony
- 19:27Speaker 7: but you know before again like we were saying in
- 19:29Speaker 7: the green room before, But uh, I think you have
- 19:32Speaker 7: to you have to go with him for another year.
- 19:34Speaker 7: I know, I know there's reports saying I saw on
- 19:35Speaker 7: Twitter just before you know Twitter point saying oh yeah,
- 19:38Speaker 7: the contract for twenty twenty seven until twenty twenty seven
- 19:40Speaker 7: doesn't look as.
- 19:41Speaker 4: Strong to keep them around, you don't get them out.
- 19:44Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Guys.
- 19:46Speaker 7: I mean I don't know, like it cannot be that
- 19:48Speaker 7: these top clubs and not only event is but you know,
- 19:51Speaker 7: the Mewans of the world, you know, uh, you know
- 19:54Speaker 7: not we even going from winning the school ETO to
- 19:57Speaker 7: changing coaches like they're changing their underwear. It's it can
- 20:00Speaker 7: be that, you know, these top clubs are are constantly
- 20:02Speaker 7: changing coach and constantly changing uh you know, you want
- 20:06Speaker 7: to say systems and stuff for that nature, Uh to
- 20:09Speaker 7: just start again and again and again. Is it one
- 20:12Speaker 7: rebuild or is it ten? You know, like what are
- 20:15Speaker 7: we doing? Like it's it's it's there's no.
- 20:17Speaker 4: Clarity, I think.
- 20:18Speaker 7: So it doesn't help you know, fan bases, which I
- 20:20Speaker 7: which I get totally. It doesn't you know what, it
- 20:26Speaker 7: doesn't have the weak Yeah, I guess right. But at
- 20:29Speaker 7: the same time, you know, it's it's tough. You have
- 20:32Speaker 7: to in my personal opinion, you have to stick with
- 20:34Speaker 7: them another year. And I know that's probably not you know,
- 20:36Speaker 7: the the best sounding thing for a lot of events
- 20:38Speaker 7: as fans because you know now only Juve fans were
- 20:42Speaker 7: just fans in general, very very reactionary. You know, they
- 20:44Speaker 7: want to win now, everything has to happen now. But
- 20:47Speaker 7: you know, you have to build to a certain end goal.
- 20:50Speaker 7: And if you're not going to allow that building to
- 20:53Speaker 7: take place, how do you want to get to where
- 20:57Speaker 7: you want to go? You know it's not You're never
- 20:58Speaker 7: going to get there. So for me personally, I would
- 21:01Speaker 7: sick with you know, Mata another year.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Uh.
- 21:04Speaker 7: You know how many years did they go with Allegory
- 21:05Speaker 7: and like half the fan baseball we're gonna go, you know,
- 21:08Speaker 7: burn burn, burn down ja medical there, like they're gonna
- 21:11Speaker 7: burn everything because they had a leg on another season.
- 21:13Speaker 7: So stick with Mata another year. Uh, you know, kind
- 21:17Speaker 7: of get a grasp of things. And again, like I
- 21:21Speaker 7: was telling Tony off off air, there, you know, for me,
- 21:23Speaker 7: it starts from the top. So if it be June
- 21:26Speaker 7: Tuley uh and company, you know, from the president down,
- 21:29Speaker 7: I mean it starts up there that you know, these
- 21:32Speaker 7: are the guys that put Mata in place. He was
- 21:35Speaker 7: obviously the hot coach We've spoken about many times on
- 21:38Speaker 7: the show. He was the hot coach of the summer
- 21:40Speaker 7: to bring in. All of Italian teams were looking at
- 21:42Speaker 7: him to bring in. But again guys like to his defense,
- 21:46Speaker 7: like what's his sample size bringing Bologna into Champions League
- 21:51Speaker 7: and having a great season, you know, aesthetically by pleasing
- 21:54Speaker 7: to the eye. Okay, that's great, you know, but his
- 21:58Speaker 7: sample size wasn't very big. You're going from Bologna to
- 22:02Speaker 7: a piazza like Uvent.
- 22:03Speaker 1: It is.
- 22:03Speaker 4: It's a heavy it's a heavy shirt to wear. It's
- 22:06Speaker 4: a heavy you know.
- 22:08Speaker 7: Uh, it's a heavy club to represent. You know, not
- 22:12Speaker 7: everybody can do it, so I think you got to
- 22:14Speaker 7: give him some slock. But at the end, at the
- 22:16Speaker 7: same time, if you want to continue changing coaches, like
- 22:19Speaker 7: how many coaches have they changed?
- 22:22Speaker 2: Well you just pure little Saudi right like.
- 22:25Speaker 1: A nineteen say twenty twenty one, very twenty twenty two
- 22:31Speaker 1: for and now their fifth coach?
- 22:34Speaker 4: What in five into six years?
- 22:36Speaker 1: In six years, six years, five coaches.
- 22:38Speaker 4: That's for a club of UVENT.
- 22:41Speaker 7: It's a statue and everybody will event that's unheard of,
- 22:43Speaker 7: Like that shouldn't be right, So you have to in
- 22:46Speaker 7: my opinion, you have to stick to something.
- 22:49Speaker 4: Currently it's it's it's mata, so I think, person you
- 22:52Speaker 4: have to stick with that.
- 22:53Speaker 2: But I got a question for Nick, then go for
- 22:58Speaker 2: it for you. Event.
- 23:01Speaker 5: Let's just say they decide to move away from most
- 23:05Speaker 5: of the summer, is it.
- 23:07Speaker 2: Do you bring in a young coach like there you go.
- 23:10Speaker 5: Aladino from whatever, from Fiorentina where you know, I'm not
- 23:15Speaker 5: don't get me naming coaches. I don't know any Or
- 23:18Speaker 5: do you bring in like an experienced coach, or you
- 23:21Speaker 5: bring back at Conte or do you bring back you know,
- 23:24Speaker 5: an older coach right that's just gonna give you whatever
- 23:28Speaker 5: two three years?
- 23:30Speaker 2: Or can we bring in a younger coach?
- 23:35Speaker 4: Not with this, not with this fan base.
- 23:38Speaker 1: I don't think he's in He's in Saudi Arabia now,
- 23:41Speaker 1: No Ronaldo, I bring him, bring him back to Italy.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Clearly he did a good job with Melan to the
- 23:52Speaker 1: point where he leaves and we're having this these same
- 23:54Speaker 1: conversations with me lin Oh, you know, should not if
- 23:59Speaker 1: in this and that and listen. A guy like Koli
- 24:03Speaker 1: he's not I know he won the Sculetto with Milan,
- 24:06Speaker 1: but he's not a guy you bring in to expect
- 24:08Speaker 1: to win this Scuiletto. Seems like a guy to stable,
- 24:11Speaker 1: you know, stabilize a ship a bit uh kind of
- 24:14Speaker 1: that veteran presence because Tony, I think when you bring
- 24:17Speaker 1: him a young coach, you kind of see him with Mata.
- 24:18Speaker 1: It's a lot of pressure. And and especially when you,
- 24:22Speaker 1: like I said before, when you don't have that identity
- 24:25Speaker 1: and you know, it's like it's like care they rebuilding
- 24:29Speaker 1: or do they want to win? And so what per se?
- 24:33Speaker 1: I think you know, the only young coach that kind
- 24:38Speaker 1: of had some success was pure Low and he was
- 24:40Speaker 1: fired after one season. And his success was Kope Tali
- 24:44Speaker 1: a top four finish, which you know, but you may
- 24:49Speaker 1: standards today would be good. Right, Look, that's what happened
- 24:51Speaker 1: to Lagry last season and and and that was good,
- 24:54Speaker 1: but we need to get to get back to Sciletto
- 24:57Speaker 1: after that. Who knows, like you said, I don't know
- 25:00Speaker 1: how many coaches are there are there out there that
- 25:03Speaker 1: could come into this UA team with this roster and
- 25:06Speaker 1: absolutely change the game. Maybe content maybe content. Other than that,
- 25:12Speaker 1: I have no clue.
- 25:13Speaker 5: One name that gets thrown around, well, there's a couple
- 25:16Speaker 5: of names. One is Zaday, and I would just be like, no,
- 25:20Speaker 5: the only bus he ever drove was full of Hall
- 25:22Speaker 5: of famers, So no. The other one, Deschamp was thrown
- 25:26Speaker 5: out there. I was like, maybe, but I think he
- 25:31Speaker 5: wants does he not?
- 25:32Speaker 4: Is he not?
- 25:33Speaker 5: Where is he now? Does he coach France? Or he's
- 25:35Speaker 5: he wants a France job or something?
- 25:38Speaker 2: Still there? Right?
- 25:40Speaker 5: So jeez again, it's another tough question. Juventus should not
- 25:45Speaker 5: be a training ground for managers.
- 25:47Speaker 7: Can't be five coaches in six years, Tony, That's that's
- 25:51Speaker 7: unheard of.
- 25:52Speaker 5: Yeah, So whoever the next one is or whenever that is,
- 25:57Speaker 5: there's gonna be a lot of conversation I think as
- 25:59Speaker 5: to who do you bring in a veteran coach? Do
- 26:02Speaker 5: you we should we can't go through another rebuild. I
- 26:06Speaker 5: think I think we've we've added enough pieces this summer
- 26:10Speaker 5: last summer to have this team on its way this summer.
- 26:16Speaker 5: You know you got to get what a full back,
- 26:19Speaker 5: maybe your backup striker, and then and then in the
- 26:22Speaker 5: center back right, you have like four pieces you gotta fill.
- 26:25Speaker 5: Did I think truly did great work last summer on paper?
- 26:31Speaker 5: Like on paper you look at it like done. This
- 26:34Speaker 5: team easily is the top four, which is the which
- 26:38Speaker 5: goes over the people who want multed out because it's like,
- 26:41Speaker 5: look at the team he has should be doing more
- 26:43Speaker 5: but we again, we were talking with us in the
- 26:45Speaker 5: green room. You take thirteen of those draws, you cut
- 26:48Speaker 5: those in half to six, that's twelve points right now.
- 26:52Speaker 5: That means you're four points ahead to enter in the
- 26:55Speaker 5: school for the school that though, so like.
- 26:59Speaker 2: Are we like? Are we that bad?
- 27:02Speaker 1: Like?
- 27:02Speaker 2: Are we like?
- 27:03Speaker 5: Some people make it sound like we're in like a
- 27:05Speaker 5: relegation battle, like we we're not playing well, but we're
- 27:09Speaker 5: still in force eight points off the lead.
- 27:12Speaker 1: So it's.
- 27:15Speaker 2: I don't think there's one right answer. I think there's
- 27:19Speaker 2: no wrong answer.
- 27:19Speaker 5: They just think there's it's just not clicking right now.
- 27:22Speaker 5: And who's that fall? I like, and a lot of
- 27:24Speaker 5: people are like to your point and are and are
- 27:25Speaker 5: point too. Where's the management? Like people above Juneley, why
- 27:28Speaker 5: aren't they come to the microphones after these games saying,
- 27:31Speaker 5: you know, this isn't good enough.
- 27:33Speaker 2: We'd like to hear more from those people.
- 27:34Speaker 5: But like Calvio and those guys up there, they're all
- 27:37Speaker 5: sort of temps.
- 27:39Speaker 2: We like to at the agency.
- 27:40Speaker 5: We like to call them the temps because they came
- 27:42Speaker 5: in during all that financial crisis and we're surprised that
- 27:45Speaker 5: they're even still there. Sure, but for me I think
- 27:51Speaker 5: Jutu is doing a good job. It's now on the
- 27:54Speaker 5: manager and the players to figure it out.
- 28:00Speaker 4: I agree.
- 28:00Speaker 7: I mean, what's uh, Nick, I don't know if you
- 28:02Speaker 7: have anything else to add to that, but there's definitely
- 28:04Speaker 7: more to say.
- 28:08Speaker 1: I was gonna ask something with Jenny. You look like
- 28:10Speaker 1: you had a question.
- 28:12Speaker 6: Well no, I was just gonna make a little silly joke.
- 28:14Speaker 6: It's about like like when Tony.
- 28:16Speaker 3: Tony was mentioning about like the Club World Cup they
- 28:18Speaker 3: should just send like their B team, and it's like,
- 28:20Speaker 3: just said, I know that there's no relations but just
- 28:22Speaker 3: said you may stop you. When they go, they be like, wait,
- 28:25Speaker 3: we want to do vent this. Yeah, you got you
- 28:27Speaker 3: gotta stop you would problem with give an error on
- 28:33Speaker 3: the invitation list they wrote to stop you this auto fill.
- 28:38Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, you got a city, have B team.
- 28:39Speaker 4: I have fun.
- 28:42Speaker 1: But I know speaking about the clor Woral Cup, Yeah, no,
- 28:45Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. It almost feels like what was
- 28:47Speaker 1: the tournament, the preseason tournament used to have a tournament,
- 28:50Speaker 1: International Champions Cup or whatever they call the summer there,
- 28:53Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, it just feels like they like it
- 28:57Speaker 1: might turn into that, but we'll see, uh no about it. Yeah,
- 29:01Speaker 1: I wanted to ask I want to ask you twenty
- 29:02Speaker 1: about about some of these, like, uh, you know, transfers,
- 29:06Speaker 1: especially the ones that came in this past winter. It
- 29:08Speaker 1: was it was an interesting winter market. You know, one
- 29:11Speaker 1: guy like Alberto Costa comes in and he doesn't play
- 29:15Speaker 1: until today. So you know, I'm asking, like, I forget
- 29:20Speaker 1: if they're right abott him or it's alone. What's the
- 29:23Speaker 1: point of going on and getting a player if you're
- 29:25Speaker 1: just not gonna play. It's such weird optics.
- 29:28Speaker 5: I thought he was dead, to be honest, I didn't
- 29:30Speaker 5: know where he was. I thought we lost him. I
- 29:32Speaker 5: thought maybe he got yeah, a hit on the autostra somewhere.
- 29:36Speaker 5: I thought he was dead, like some people thought it
- 29:40Speaker 5: was actually Alberto from the All Juve cast. We actually
- 29:42Speaker 5: signed Alberto, but no, I wasn't him either. So that's
- 29:48Speaker 5: there's so there's two ways to look at that. You know,
- 29:51Speaker 5: Bremer goes down, U Cabalda goes down. You lose too,
- 29:56Speaker 5: two of your defensemen. A lot of people are saying,
- 29:58Speaker 5: why wouldn't you go in the free agency in like November.
- 30:03Speaker 5: That's not really what teams do. And Juventus has never
- 30:06Speaker 5: really done that either. I thought they did great work
- 30:09Speaker 5: in January, right, normally teams don't do any work in January.
- 30:14Speaker 5: But you you know, Vega comes in, Nick, he's really
- 30:20Speaker 5: shored that up at the center back.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Unfortunately he got hurt.
- 30:24Speaker 5: Now he's under Jay medical, which is another absolute nightmare
- 30:27Speaker 5: that I don't even want to deal with.
- 30:30Speaker 2: Kolulu goes down.
- 30:31Speaker 5: Clue is not even a center back, but he's playing
- 30:33Speaker 5: well as a center back. So for the pieces that
- 30:36Speaker 5: Alberto Koss is a bit of a special case because
- 30:40Speaker 5: he is young. I thought he was supposed to be
- 30:42Speaker 5: going to next Gen, but they did with who ended
- 30:46Speaker 5: up getting hurt?
- 30:49Speaker 2: Whoever?
- 30:50Speaker 5: I guess it was when Khalulu got hurt. Oh no, sorry,
- 30:52Speaker 5: when they end up getting rid of Danilo, So we
- 30:55Speaker 5: got he ended up staying up with the with the
- 30:58Speaker 5: first team, And on our pregame show this morning, we
- 31:03Speaker 5: were all thinking that he was going to start because
- 31:05Speaker 5: like what, you know, you're playing Ampley's B team, why
- 31:08Speaker 5: onn't you start him today? So that going down one
- 31:10Speaker 5: nothing sealed the fate of him not getting a lot
- 31:13Speaker 5: of minutes today. You know, Kelly's come in.
- 31:20Speaker 2: You know, we'd like to call him. Lloyd Bront.
- 31:23Speaker 5: Not terrible right so far, like he hasn't been a
- 31:28Speaker 5: lot of people coming in saying this guy is going
- 31:29Speaker 5: to be, you know, a dumpster fire again, not playing
- 31:33Speaker 5: bad from from when Bremmer went down, we had a
- 31:36Speaker 5: lot of holes in the back. I think you know
- 31:38Speaker 5: what Jolie has done with the guys coming in the
- 31:40Speaker 5: defenses seemed to just figure it out, right, these guys
- 31:43Speaker 5: have figured out Maybe that's you know, because you have
- 31:45Speaker 5: got you there every game, you know, sort of like
- 31:47Speaker 5: a stable source. Again, teams don't do work in January.
- 31:53Speaker 5: You tend to overpay. Really the only one that we
- 31:57Speaker 5: might over well then Colam Wanni coming in January, Like
- 32:01Speaker 5: what beautiful piece of business was that? So again that's
- 32:04Speaker 5: going to be a high redemp ch. I don't think
- 32:06Speaker 5: that that might not happen with PSG unless there's a
- 32:08Speaker 5: swap with Vlovich or whatever all.
- 32:11Speaker 2: The rumors are saying there.
- 32:15Speaker 5: So Costa really is the only one that hasn't played,
- 32:18Speaker 5: and there's a lot of head scratching going on to
- 32:21Speaker 5: as to why he's not seeing more minutes. But again
- 32:25Speaker 5: he's a right then, he's a right back. But now
- 32:28Speaker 5: you have Timothy Way in the past three four games
- 32:30Speaker 5: has been lights out. Timothy Way has probably been our
- 32:34Speaker 5: best player. You can argue that he's been our best
- 32:36Speaker 5: player the last three four games, at least the most consistent.
- 32:42Speaker 5: So what you're gonna You're gonna put Costa in there
- 32:44Speaker 5: when Timothy Way is absolutely balling out.
- 32:46Speaker 2: At right back. No, no, So you.
- 32:50Speaker 5: Know, there's these are the things that again Molta is like, well,
- 32:53Speaker 5: how do you how do you balance these out?
- 32:57Speaker 1: That's fair?
- 32:58Speaker 4: I think, I think. I mean you said Cola Money
- 33:02Speaker 4: has been you know, the I think the if not
- 33:05Speaker 4: one of, if not the one of of the signs
- 33:08Speaker 4: of the of the season. I think.
- 33:10Speaker 7: I mean, obviously he dried up a bit after that
- 33:13Speaker 7: hype of you know what it was five goals in
- 33:15Speaker 7: three games or whatever it was there. But and he's
- 33:18Speaker 7: kind of I don't think he scored since if I'm
- 33:20Speaker 7: not mistaken, But.
- 33:20Speaker 5: He has a high work rate like he does.
- 33:23Speaker 4: He's all over the ways.
- 33:24Speaker 7: And I again, I don't watch events every week, right,
- 33:26Speaker 7: but I was watching the game today and even my
- 33:29Speaker 7: brother like caught onto it. He's like, well, coal Money
- 33:31Speaker 7: is on the left, now, you know, he's on the right.
- 33:32Speaker 7: And now he's up the middle, and now he's tracking back,
- 33:35Speaker 7: and now he's saving the ball from going out of
- 33:36Speaker 7: bounds and putting across it. It's like less than that.
- 33:40Speaker 7: You know, obviously there's talent there and and and again,
- 33:43Speaker 7: I know it's just a dry loan. U currently worry
- 33:48Speaker 7: to how you know, Meal and with Michelle Felix and
- 33:51Speaker 7: if these clubs will end up going and trying to
- 33:54Speaker 7: negotiate with you know, their parent clubs and trying to
- 33:56Speaker 7: put them on a on a full full deal. There
- 34:00Speaker 7: needs to be seen. But you know, for Coola Moni's
- 34:03Speaker 7: sake and for for you sake in terms of the
- 34:05Speaker 7: striker department, where again, once again you know, Valvich, in
- 34:13Speaker 7: my opinion, doesn't play the best game. But who did really,
- 34:17Speaker 7: I guess you can say besides maybe you know Cole
- 34:20Speaker 7: Money's effort and Kevin Thram's you know, silky feet and
- 34:24Speaker 7: and finding the finish there. But I guess the question
- 34:28Speaker 7: is there, what do you make about you know, Valvich Tony.
- 34:32Speaker 7: I know we've got a bit of a comment question
- 34:34Speaker 7: on social media about maybe you know what happens with
- 34:37Speaker 7: his renewal if you will get one, if you won't
- 34:40Speaker 7: get one because what do you make of him and
- 34:42Speaker 7: obviously not being clinical enough. We've seen it, We've seen
- 34:45Speaker 7: it a lot. Nick has said it almost every time
- 34:49Speaker 7: there's something wrong with UVENT.
- 34:50Speaker 4: This is uh, you know, scoring problems. What do you
- 34:53Speaker 4: make of him? And is it time to move on?
- 34:56Speaker 2: Well?
- 34:57Speaker 5: I was the biggest, like Nick knows, I was like
- 34:59Speaker 5: the biggest Valvich backer out there.
- 35:02Speaker 2: I only think there was one.
- 35:06Speaker 5: But yep, he's been inconsistent. But anybody we've put up
- 35:12Speaker 5: there before Colum Jani showed up has been inconsistent. Right,
- 35:15Speaker 5: they just about the service, right, Yeah, they're not getting
- 35:19Speaker 5: definitely not getting the service. But then Colon Wanna comes
- 35:21Speaker 5: in and says, this is how you got to do
- 35:23Speaker 5: it right work rate and picked up the work rate.
- 35:26Speaker 5: So maybe that's the player that multa system needs. Is
- 35:29Speaker 5: not a player with about Valvich.
- 35:31Speaker 4: Is waiting for service and I'll create on his own
- 35:36Speaker 4: right question.
- 35:39Speaker 5: So we talked about this this morning on our show.
- 35:41Speaker 2: We said, if.
- 35:45Speaker 5: Valvich takes a pay cut, Nick, if Lalavich takes a
- 35:49Speaker 5: pay cut, says, yeah, I'll cut my salary in half.
- 35:53Speaker 5: Would would you keep them for another season? But he
- 35:57Speaker 5: has to agree that he's not necessarily the starter, and
- 36:00Speaker 5: then you start thinking, okay, well, then that's one last tool,
- 36:03Speaker 5: one last piece we have to fill in the summer
- 36:05Speaker 5: right now to buy another striker. If he can get
- 36:08Speaker 5: that thing down, his salary down to half of what
- 36:11Speaker 5: it is because everyone else is taking a pay cut
- 36:13Speaker 5: where those big salaries they're all gone, we're not doing events.
- 36:16Speaker 5: Is not doing that anymore. There's gonna be some questions
- 36:20Speaker 5: at to answer after that. It's like, okay, but then
- 36:23Speaker 5: he'd have to accept the fact that he may not
- 36:25Speaker 5: be the starter. And I don't think he's going to
- 36:28Speaker 5: do that. I think he's going to want to go
- 36:29Speaker 5: somewhere where he's the number one guy, even taking a
- 36:34Speaker 5: pay cut. I really don't think he would. He wants
- 36:38Speaker 5: to play second fiddle anybody. I'm quite confident he's getting
- 36:42Speaker 5: sold this summer. Him and Come by Us are they're
- 36:45Speaker 5: both getting sold this summer. There's just I think they're
- 36:48Speaker 5: both out. You know what you have cost in helping
- 36:53Speaker 5: out the back. You have Caball coming back from injury.
- 36:57Speaker 5: You know, I don't think we have a lot. Come
- 37:01Speaker 5: by Us I think is a great talent, but sold
- 37:04Speaker 5: for sixty million that's almost sixty million in profit. Like
- 37:08Speaker 5: what we're almost at the point where Ventus Is is
- 37:12Speaker 5: gonna write the books. So there's a lot of like
- 37:14Speaker 5: financial reasons why we have to do it. Once we
- 37:16Speaker 5: get the books right, like the financial fair play, we're
- 37:19Speaker 5: right there, like Ventus is like right at the cusp
- 37:21Speaker 5: of now not having those issues are behind us. So
- 37:27Speaker 5: some players have to get sold, and I think with Lavich,
- 37:29Speaker 5: he might get sold just to break even because he's
- 37:31Speaker 5: gonna he's gonna be about twenty something million on the
- 37:34Speaker 5: books come June. Would be great to sell him for
- 37:39Speaker 5: forty I think, just with his output this year, I
- 37:41Speaker 5: don't think we're gonna get it. I'd like to see
- 37:43Speaker 5: him stay, but as a fan because I've I've always
- 37:48Speaker 5: liked him as a player, But I think just logistically,
- 37:52Speaker 5: financially system wise, I just don't think.
- 37:56Speaker 2: I just don't think he's going to be around comes.
- 37:59Speaker 1: He said it.
- 38:00Speaker 3: I think for those reasons, like if I'm Dusan, like,
- 38:03Speaker 3: I am not going to take a pay cut, especially
- 38:05Speaker 3: in my age.
- 38:07Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Let's be like you're completely correct there.
- 38:10Speaker 4: Tony, Like, what's he making, sorry, Johnny, what's he making
- 38:12Speaker 4: to him?
- 38:13Speaker 2: Currently.
- 38:14Speaker 4: You guys know.
- 38:15Speaker 5: It's gonna be so at the end of the season,
- 38:17Speaker 5: I think it jumps up to a net like twenty
- 38:21Speaker 5: something million.
- 38:22Speaker 3: Uros most year salary.
- 38:24Speaker 5: Yeah, gross, he's the highest paint in league. Gross is
- 38:27Speaker 5: going to be somewhere I think some around fifteen sixteen
- 38:32Speaker 5: million a year or something.
- 38:33Speaker 2: It's it's wild, it's it's.
- 38:35Speaker 3: You can't justify that. There's no way, especially with his
- 38:38Speaker 3: with his recent performances, Like I definitely do see him
- 38:41Speaker 3: getting like sold off the books because it's like no
- 38:44Speaker 3: one's gonna know one like you be foolish to give
- 38:46Speaker 3: him that salary, you know, And it's it's because he
- 38:49Speaker 3: doesn't live up expectations, and yeah he's not.
- 38:52Speaker 6: He's definitely not gonna take a pay cut.
- 38:53Speaker 3: So I definitely see uh do sad.
- 38:56Speaker 6: Leaving this year.
- 38:57Speaker 3: And so for that kind of money, you have to
- 38:59Speaker 3: take it. I'll see the offers like like what was it,
- 39:02Speaker 3: Like Man City was willing to offer like sixty million
- 39:05Speaker 3: euros seventy million years. It was something ridiculously high. At
- 39:07Speaker 3: this winter when I saw those numbers, I'm like, why
- 39:10Speaker 3: aren't they jumping on this? Like I would have been like, yeah,
- 39:13Speaker 3: take take him right away, like I know, Camas like
- 39:15Speaker 3: it was, what, he's a twenty three, he's twenty.
- 39:18Speaker 1: Two, so young. I don't know.
- 39:21Speaker 4: I think the number going down now by by them waiting.
- 39:23Speaker 3: To Yeah, but it's it's normal.
- 39:26Speaker 6: Sorry, Nick, what is he.
- 39:29Speaker 1: No? I just made a joke because we're talking about
- 39:32Speaker 1: his age, and then he said, I think that number
- 39:34Speaker 1: is going down.
- 39:34Speaker 3: So I said, with those offers you come in like he's.
- 39:41Speaker 1: Not he's not. He's not an uneasy thing. He's twenty five.
- 39:43Speaker 3: He just really really I thought he was a little
- 39:46Speaker 3: bit younger than that either way, honestly, either way, if
- 39:51Speaker 3: you're getting those those those offers for him, move him, Like,
- 39:55Speaker 3: I don't see why, like you you wouldn't take that opportunity,
- 39:59Speaker 3: especially like use it to just, I don't know, reinvest
- 40:02Speaker 3: some things. It's it's not saying you bet, this has
- 40:04Speaker 3: to be sellers, but it's like sometimes there's these deals
- 40:06Speaker 3: that come in and it's like yeah, no, sure, so.
- 40:10Speaker 2: Finally he's still here.
- 40:12Speaker 5: He'll stand about six million on the books come June. Yeah,
- 40:19Speaker 5: so yeah, yeah, you sell them for sixty that's fifty
- 40:22Speaker 5: four ish million that you can invest elsewhere.
- 40:27Speaker 2: Yeah, which is a lot.
- 40:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't three six million off of salary which
- 40:33Speaker 3: is pretty big and you're free.
- 40:35Speaker 6: At twenty million off of salary.
- 40:37Speaker 5: That's like you have to you have to make top four,
- 40:40Speaker 5: like there's just no if fans about that bottom line.
- 40:45Speaker 5: Period have to make top four. But selling Cambiasso means
- 40:52Speaker 5: most likely you don't have to sell someone like yieldis.
- 40:55Speaker 5: I don't think Events is going to sell yieldas I
- 40:58Speaker 5: really don't. But if somebody comes in with an offer
- 41:01Speaker 5: for one hundred millions picking.
- 41:03Speaker 2: Up the phone, yeah, which is unfortunate, but it's not
- 41:07Speaker 2: even worth a hundred million offense.
- 41:09Speaker 3: No, But like you but if you if you get
- 41:10Speaker 3: these offers in the ad, it's like sometimes it's like yeah,
- 41:13Speaker 3: sure you want to give us that crazy stupid money. Sure,
- 41:16Speaker 3: and he's like that juntlely did like but like, take
- 41:19Speaker 3: it from a Napoly fan perspective, that's basically what was
- 41:22Speaker 3: Napoli's m O and it's still their mo O today,
- 41:25Speaker 3: where it's like they'll buy these players for cheap and
- 41:28Speaker 3: then all of a sudden they perform well enough that
- 41:30Speaker 3: they'll get these crazy offers coming in out of nowhere
- 41:32Speaker 3: for these players and they'll sell them Like I like, yeah,
- 41:36Speaker 3: you know, like, hey, if the return is going to
- 41:37Speaker 3: be like fifty million return of investment like at ROI
- 41:41Speaker 3: like you definitely do something like that, you know. And
- 41:43Speaker 3: like I'm not saying Juventus financially is in the same
- 41:46Speaker 3: position as Napoli, but what I'm saying is that, you know,
- 41:49Speaker 3: like you take this money and then you reinvest it
- 41:52Speaker 3: into whatever spots are needed. And with the foundation that
- 41:56Speaker 3: Juventus already has in terms of facilities, in terms of
- 42:00Speaker 3: like modernity, and like in terms of uh, you know,
- 42:04Speaker 3: being able to just like bounce back so quickly, that
- 42:07Speaker 3: money is going to.
- 42:08Speaker 2: Do a lot.
- 42:09Speaker 3: Like a fifty four million for Juby will do a
- 42:12Speaker 3: lot more than what a fifty four million will do
- 42:15Speaker 3: for Napoly in that case, and the guy like Juntulei
- 42:18Speaker 3: being that kind of position, like he's worked wonders with
- 42:22Speaker 3: Napoly in terms of like taking that money or event
- 42:25Speaker 3: obviously worked with the Larentis in terms of like okay,
- 42:27Speaker 3: which players and whatnot, but like like in that kind
- 42:32Speaker 3: of position, like it, if he's had success in the past,
- 42:34Speaker 3: it definitely will I think it will translate for Juventus
- 42:37Speaker 3: in that instance.
- 42:38Speaker 5: Well, if you look at if you look at just
- 42:40Speaker 5: the just the numbers, just the financials, and I was
- 42:43Speaker 5: I was an idiot who read Events' financial statement just
- 42:46Speaker 5: to kind of understand the.
- 42:47Speaker 2: Numbers, and we were what was it?
- 42:52Speaker 5: It was one hundred and ninety We had a net
- 42:55Speaker 5: loss of one hundred and ninety nine million dollars last year. Okay,
- 42:59Speaker 5: so but when you talk about deficit, I think we're
- 43:02Speaker 5: at one hundred and nineteen million deficit. That deficit looks
- 43:06Speaker 5: like it's going to be some around thirty million this year,
- 43:10Speaker 5: some around that.
- 43:12Speaker 2: So he.
- 43:14Speaker 5: The work that Juley's doing on the financials is we
- 43:18Speaker 5: should build a statue in front of the stadium just
- 43:20Speaker 5: for that. That's the sort of stuff that people aren't seeing.
- 43:24Speaker 2: I get it. People upset that Luis.
- 43:26Speaker 5: Isn't performing, Cote Myers in performance. I get that stuff.
- 43:29Speaker 5: I understand the rage there. But as a body of work, right,
- 43:36Speaker 5: this guy's working wonders that people just they're just not seeing,
- 43:39Speaker 5: they're not getting it. So is that translating on the field, No,
- 43:43Speaker 5: But as a financially is a club to get that stuff.
- 43:47Speaker 5: And Alberto's on our show says this all the time.
- 43:51Speaker 5: We want to see what.
- 43:52Speaker 2: This club does.
- 43:52Speaker 5: Once we don't have that financial burden anymore. Once we're
- 43:55Speaker 5: not talking about selling maybe Yolda's for one hundred million
- 43:58Speaker 5: or having to sell uh Cambiasso for sixty million to
- 44:03Speaker 5: make that fifty four million, we don't want to have
- 44:05Speaker 5: those conversations anymore. We won't have the conversations up we're
- 44:08Speaker 5: selling this guy so we can go get that guy right,
- 44:11Speaker 5: not because we need the money. We Once we get
- 44:15Speaker 5: financially stable, then we really can start talking about how
- 44:18Speaker 5: does this team do in sporting wise. We're not really
- 44:21Speaker 5: having that conversation enough because of all the financial issues
- 44:26Speaker 5: that we've had over the years. It's been a gong show,
- 44:28Speaker 5: like you guys don't like it's been you know, the
- 44:31Speaker 5: minus ten, the minus fifteen points, all that plus vends,
- 44:34Speaker 5: all this. You know, Please don't talk on the phone.
- 44:37Speaker 5: If if I ever went in there and I saw
- 44:39Speaker 5: one landline on somebody's desk, I would lose it. There
- 44:42Speaker 5: should not be a landline anywhere in that building. Well,
- 44:44Speaker 5: we signed that contract nick with that AI company, Tether.
- 44:48Speaker 5: They bought five percent of Juventus.
- 44:51Speaker 2: Have you seen that?
- 44:52Speaker 5: So Tether is like an AI company and they it's
- 44:56Speaker 5: a it's a Turin based company, and they came in.
- 45:00Speaker 5: The owner is like, A, I don't know what kind
- 45:03Speaker 5: of a billionaire. He's like, I could fund Juventus for
- 45:05Speaker 5: two thousand years. That's how much money I have. But
- 45:10Speaker 5: he said, we're gonna come in and we're going to
- 45:12Speaker 5: fix all that. We'd like to help fix all their communications.
- 45:16Speaker 5: And I was like, get every goddamn phone that building out,
- 45:19Speaker 5: anything that's connected right with.
- 45:22Speaker 2: A rip them all out of the walls.
- 45:24Speaker 5: No one should be talking on the phone. Everything should
- 45:26Speaker 5: be hand signals, hand signals or go talk out in
- 45:30Speaker 5: the smokeyard like we used to do in high school, right,
- 45:33Speaker 5: don't playing.
- 45:34Speaker 6: A bax machine like.
- 45:38Speaker 5: But it's you know, and that's another thing, like we
- 45:41Speaker 5: again with the whole sponsor issue.
- 45:43Speaker 2: We don't have a main sponsor.
- 45:44Speaker 5: Which was an absolute disaster, Like what the hell are
- 45:46Speaker 5: you even talking about? Like you get that's thirty whatever
- 45:50Speaker 5: million that we lost out there. So these these conversations
- 45:54Speaker 5: were really looking forward to in September not having these
- 45:56Speaker 5: conversations because we're really tired of it. We just want
- 46:00Speaker 5: to have sporting conversations, which in now the sporting conversations
- 46:04Speaker 5: are why the hell you lose the emplase B team,
- 46:07Speaker 5: which is unfortunate.
- 46:14Speaker 4: Nick, Yeah, the thee of the night.
- 46:17Speaker 1: There we go, and I kind of I'm kind of
- 46:19Speaker 1: like Juventus in this in this week's podcast, not showing.
- 46:25Speaker 6: Up he was injured.
- 46:28Speaker 1: In his defense not showing up, I don't no, what
- 46:32Speaker 1: did I say? Yeah? Okay, Well, you know what you
- 46:35Speaker 1: want to talk sporting, You want to talk players yield this,
- 46:38Speaker 1: What are your what are your on your honest thoughts
- 46:41Speaker 1: on him? Because I have some thoughts as well, I'll
- 46:44Speaker 1: share after.
- 46:45Speaker 2: Well, he's a gem.
- 46:46Speaker 5: He's a gem that you can really uh make the
- 46:49Speaker 5: face of your franchise. Right, he did pick up an
- 46:53Speaker 5: injury not long ago, and I was thinking maybe that's
- 46:58Speaker 5: why he hasn't been starting these past three four games.
- 47:02Speaker 5: Thirty seven games into the season, he played in thirty
- 47:05Speaker 5: seven games, so nineteen years old. That's that's a lot
- 47:11Speaker 5: of that's a lot of workload for a kid, even
- 47:14Speaker 5: though maybe he didn't play obviously full ninety in all
- 47:16Speaker 5: those games. But it's getting to the point now where
- 47:20Speaker 5: he has to play, right. He's just he's too much
- 47:23Speaker 5: like Tudam. Tudam has been on the bench for you
- 47:27Speaker 5: know he hasn't been starting. He did come out of
- 47:29Speaker 5: the inter game with cramps. Again, I'm thinking maybe it's
- 47:32Speaker 5: medical issues, But then you look at he comes into
- 47:35Speaker 5: that PSV game, plays eighty minutes, no problem. Tutim comes
- 47:40Speaker 5: into this game, plays ninety minutes, no issues. I have
- 47:45Speaker 5: such a p PTSD from J Medical that I'm like,
- 47:48Speaker 5: I just blame everything on JA Medical. But the way
- 47:51Speaker 5: these guys are coming in and playing like yillis, it's
- 47:54Speaker 5: he has to play like the the outrage that's been
- 47:57Speaker 5: out there on Jay Twitter about you know, this kid's
- 48:00Speaker 5: got to start. I was on the boat of let's
- 48:03Speaker 5: just give him a minute. You know, in Bengala comes
- 48:05Speaker 5: in play as well. You know, you have Nico Gonzalez's
- 48:08Speaker 5: you know, Chico's playing, Conz Salas playing okay, But when
- 48:14Speaker 5: Yodas comes in.
- 48:16Speaker 2: And he.
- 48:18Speaker 5: When he was playing a lot teams were double double
- 48:20Speaker 5: teaming him, which was really marking him out of the game.
- 48:23Speaker 5: But once he starts floating inside, it's just he's offering that,
- 48:28Speaker 5: you know, that little piece that no one else on
- 48:30Speaker 5: the field for Vents seems to have. And so for
- 48:34Speaker 5: this run to kind of solidify the top four, I
- 48:36Speaker 5: think he's gotta He's got a log more minutes on
- 48:39Speaker 5: the field than he does on the bench, And I
- 48:41Speaker 5: don't think anyone's gonna disagree with that. I think a
- 48:43Speaker 5: lot of people just see he's just he's a talent.
- 48:46Speaker 5: And again, do not send him to the Club World Cup.
- 48:49Speaker 5: Just send to the beach in the summer.
- 48:54Speaker 4: You want to follow that up.
- 48:56Speaker 1: To be honest, I know, yeah, he's a good player,
- 48:59Speaker 1: but I'm not sold on him yet, Like I don't,
- 49:03Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't see the hype that he's
- 49:05Speaker 1: getting to be the next generational player. You know, I'm
- 49:10Speaker 1: not saying when I'm not, which is crazy, guys, Yeah,
- 49:13Speaker 1: that's that's a lot. I'm not saying he's shit. I'm
- 49:15Speaker 1: not saying he's he's the next superstar. I'm curious what
- 49:21Speaker 1: the rest of his career will be like One player
- 49:23Speaker 1: that I hope he turns into it and I see a
- 49:27Speaker 1: lot of similarities. Is is Devala. When Yildas is on
- 49:31Speaker 1: his game, the way he controls the pace of player
- 49:34Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of Dibala. Then, you know, it
- 49:38Speaker 1: got me thinking, you know, when when Divala, how old
- 49:40Speaker 1: is Divala? When he joined you Van twenty fifteen, he
- 49:43Speaker 1: was twenty two already, so Yielda's at nineteen. Sorry, Deballa
- 49:49Speaker 1: was twenty one. He was gonna be twenty two that
- 49:51Speaker 1: season in November, so Yielda's nineteen. You know, he's still
- 49:56Speaker 1: three years off, two years off of what Deballa was
- 49:58Speaker 1: when he joined you Va. So that gives me hope
- 50:02Speaker 1: for you know this as well. But at the same time, he,
- 50:05Speaker 1: you know, mostly any other player on this team right now,
- 50:10Speaker 1: he hasn't done enough to convince me. I don't know
- 50:13Speaker 1: if maybe it is fatigue for a nineteen year old,
- 50:17Speaker 1: you know he's gonna be twenty and it may or
- 50:20Speaker 1: or maybe it's a system, but I want to see
- 50:25Speaker 1: more out of him. But at the same time, if
- 50:27Speaker 1: e gets one hundred million offer, I'm sorry so to
- 50:31Speaker 1: sell him because you go ahead. No, I was gonna say,
- 50:35Speaker 1: you don't want this to be a Blotti situation where
- 50:38Speaker 1: Torino apparently had a offers one hundred million dollars when
- 50:41Speaker 1: he was in his prime and then they never.
- 50:43Speaker 3: Saw it wasn't that it was it was Torino's sporting
- 50:45Speaker 3: director was like, we value Blati at one hundred million euros.
- 50:51Speaker 3: Just made that joke where it's like, oh, if you've
- 50:52Speaker 3: walked a bunch of million euros, birkeed into two hundred,
- 50:56Speaker 3: you know, just.
- 50:56Speaker 7: Oh, okay, okay, but he was still getting offered quite
- 50:59Speaker 7: a lot of money.
- 51:00Speaker 6: Yeah, like the sixties or something something.
- 51:04Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, it was in the sixties, pretty high.
- 51:11Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think it's tough when you start
- 51:15Speaker 5: saying this person I'm not saying you're saying it, but
- 51:18Speaker 5: this person is the next ex player, Like just just
- 51:23Speaker 5: let him, just let him be whatever player he turns
- 51:26Speaker 5: out to.
- 51:26Speaker 4: Be, right comparable, but comparables are fair though.
- 51:30Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
- 51:30Speaker 5: I'm just saying I did say Nick was saying that,
- 51:32Speaker 5: but like a lot of people are out there like, oh,
- 51:34Speaker 5: he he's going to turn into the next like he's
- 51:36Speaker 5: still nineteen. Like let's just let him, you know, figure
- 51:40Speaker 5: it out. But Nick, are you saying that he shouldn't
- 51:43Speaker 5: even be starting or you're just saying just the hype
- 51:46Speaker 5: around him.
- 51:47Speaker 1: Ah, I don't mind him starting. I think the hype
- 51:50Speaker 1: just needs to sizzle down a bit enough, you know,
- 51:53Speaker 1: like like I don't know if it's the hype of
- 51:56Speaker 1: getting the number ten or whatnot, or every time he
- 51:58Speaker 1: scores a goal, he does the tongue celebration, and he's
- 52:01Speaker 1: the next al Piero. And you know, to Jenny well,
- 52:04Speaker 1: to what your points like, I'm not comparing him to
- 52:06Speaker 1: Deballa at all, but I'm just saying subtle play, that's it.
- 52:09Speaker 1: It's similar and and the whole the next this guy
- 52:12Speaker 1: is the next so and so. I I can't stand
- 52:15Speaker 1: that because every player is unique, right, and I at
- 52:19Speaker 1: the end of the day, I want him to be
- 52:20Speaker 1: better than Depaula. I don't want him to be the
- 52:22Speaker 1: next you, Paula. I want him to be even better,
- 52:24Speaker 1: right because Depaula he had his he had his amazing
- 52:28Speaker 1: years and then there was years of criticism as well.
- 52:31Speaker 1: But at the end of day, if we get another Devalla,
- 52:33Speaker 1: I'll be very happy as well.
- 52:34Speaker 2: So I don't even I don't even get the number thing.
- 52:37Speaker 5: And people are like, oh, he's gonna wear people are
- 52:39Speaker 5: upset about give him the ten.
- 52:40Speaker 2: I'm like, who gives a ship. It's a Jersey number.
- 52:44Speaker 2: Who cares there's.
- 52:46Speaker 3: Other number ten throughout their history. It's they're gonna, They're gonna, and.
- 52:50Speaker 6: They were all great on their own. I think it's
- 52:54Speaker 6: a thing of a shiny new toy.
- 52:56Speaker 3: There's there's always like the shiny new toy syndrome for
- 52:59Speaker 3: every team, whatever new player comes in. And I'm not
- 53:02Speaker 3: saying this criticize Juventini. I say that, I say this
- 53:06Speaker 3: in a loving way. I feel like it's a bigger
- 53:08Speaker 3: effect for Juventus fans about this whole shot. Maybe from
- 53:11Speaker 3: my perspective, like the shiny new toy syndrome affects them
- 53:15Speaker 3: more than other teams. That what I've noticed in City Yeah,
- 53:18Speaker 3: where it's like all of a sudden, this new player
- 53:20Speaker 3: comes in or younger player comes in, it's.
- 53:22Speaker 4: Like, oh, this guy's gonna be amazing like that.
- 53:23Speaker 3: No, no, and then it's like then it doesn't pan
- 53:26Speaker 3: out to be the full expectations and it's like, well,
- 53:29Speaker 3: get the fuck, get this guy out of here, you know,
- 53:31Speaker 3: like and stuff, and by Mazzay Gildas is there yet.
- 53:34Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is like that I find that happens.
- 53:36Speaker 3: And the second thing is he's young, and everyone has
- 53:40Speaker 3: this like automatic thing where it's like X player is
- 53:43Speaker 3: already on like the starting lineup or secondary like let's
- 53:47Speaker 3: say one point five lineup.
- 53:49Speaker 6: At age nineteen.
- 53:50Speaker 3: All that means he definitely is gonna be good.
- 53:53Speaker 4: And it's like.
- 53:54Speaker 3: Sometimes these young players just never pan out like they had.
- 53:57Speaker 3: They start off like pretty solid at a young age,
- 53:59Speaker 3: then just something happens along the way and they just
- 54:02Speaker 3: crash and burn. It's like they maybe they don't have
- 54:06Speaker 3: the right longevity. Maybe the injuries do happen, or maybe
- 54:09Speaker 3: it's because they or sometimes it happens that they just
- 54:11Speaker 3: can't adapt playing with men, or.
- 54:13Speaker 5: They just don't fit in the club anymore. Like Rovella. Yeah,
- 54:18Speaker 5: a lot of people were. I was not upset. I
- 54:21Speaker 5: could not stand there that Rovella hive thing. I had
- 54:24Speaker 5: a battle with those.
- 54:25Speaker 3: Oh my god, I forgot about those sons of bitches.
- 54:28Speaker 5: Those guys were driving me nuts. But you know, I'm
- 54:33Speaker 5: glad he's he's doing I think, you know, he's playing
- 54:35Speaker 5: well this year. I don't know much, but he's he's
- 54:38Speaker 5: playing well. But I again, we made our X number
- 54:41Speaker 5: of dogs. Sometimes to your point, Johnny, you gotta you
- 54:44Speaker 5: gotta sell the shiny new toys.
- 54:46Speaker 2: Houston.
- 54:47Speaker 5: I was the only young players I was upset about us.
- 54:50Speaker 2: Sell was was Houston. That was it.
- 54:53Speaker 5: But sometimes you got you gotta sell these players. Soule
- 54:58Speaker 5: Barnicella like Junior, right, you have to offload these players.
- 55:03Speaker 5: We offload these players and we're still the second youngest
- 55:06Speaker 5: team in said yeah, so right, yeah, sometimes, but you
- 55:13Speaker 5: know yields. I think juven Teini will argue, I'll argue
- 55:17Speaker 5: that he is a little bit of a class above
- 55:22Speaker 5: at his age compared to the other youngsters like Fajoli
- 55:26Speaker 5: Medretti at his age at nineteen, he's a bit of
- 55:29Speaker 5: a yeah, definitely and above where those guys were at
- 55:32Speaker 5: that age.
- 55:32Speaker 2: So there's a lot more expectations.
- 55:34Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way that number.
- 55:36Speaker 2: Ten again with the ten like who cares he could?
- 55:40Speaker 3: But I'm just saying like that, Yeah, but I think
- 55:43Speaker 3: that number of demands not just not just for the
- 55:45Speaker 3: players who came before that. It's just that number is
- 55:48Speaker 3: such as signique hold number holds, it holds up. Like
- 55:51Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not saying, Neil, this is not
- 55:54Speaker 3: playing well. I'm not saying that Heck, I haven't done
- 55:56Speaker 3: found the culture team, Like I'm not Like what I'm
- 56:00Speaker 3: saying is that, Like it's just psychologically subconsciously whatever word
- 56:06Speaker 3: you want to use to define mental game, like it
- 56:09Speaker 3: just adds an extra layer of like expectations from fans
- 56:13Speaker 3: and pressure towards a player and what to do when
- 56:15Speaker 3: you have that kind of number that on your jersey
- 56:18Speaker 3: and stuff, and I I kind of lost where I
- 56:23Speaker 3: was going with this. But it's just like I think
- 56:26Speaker 3: the kid, you know, like deserves some time. I think
- 56:30Speaker 3: he's I think he's I think he's a great part
- 56:34Speaker 3: of Juventus right now. I think he's got a lot
- 56:37Speaker 3: to go from here. Like I don't think I honestly
- 56:41Speaker 3: don't think he's It's way too early.
- 56:45Speaker 6: We just started.
- 56:45Speaker 3: He just started playing this season for the team. Anyways,
- 56:48Speaker 3: know if I'm not mistaken, Yeah.
- 56:49Speaker 5: Like appearances last year, I believe, but yeah, no, this
- 56:52Speaker 5: is this is his first full season.
- 56:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I I I definitely think. I mean, like like
- 56:59Speaker 3: Nick said, Lessen comes in out of nowhere for like
- 57:01Speaker 3: some crazy stupid money, then sure, But I definitely think
- 57:05Speaker 3: like he is part of, uh, this the core that's
- 57:09Speaker 3: gonna survive this transition period as we said, like as
- 57:12Speaker 3: I was saying before, of like getting into like this
- 57:14Speaker 3: new era of Juventus, like trying to find this, as
- 57:17Speaker 3: Nick said before, this new identity for compared to what
- 57:21Speaker 3: the old. They like, they don't have an identity they
- 57:23Speaker 3: need to find a new one before it was theose
- 57:27Speaker 3: days are gone. H if you want to if I mean, look,
- 57:33Speaker 3: I'm gonna have joke around, but I mean half serious.
- 57:35Speaker 3: If Napoli stumbles the Scudetto this year, if they fumble
- 57:38Speaker 3: it right, sorry, stumbles fumble the Scudetto this year, especially
- 57:42Speaker 3: when it's like you're only playing once a week. All
- 57:45Speaker 3: your major competition once again like they had two years ago,
- 57:49Speaker 3: is going through some rough periods. Inter is a strong competitor,
- 57:52Speaker 3: but Inter two, you know, like they're just like maybe
- 57:54Speaker 3: they're like the hiccuping a couple of times. But like
- 57:59Speaker 3: with all this, yes, you had your drama cabout at Skelia,
- 58:01Speaker 3: just out of doors, like you know what, fuck this,
- 58:02Speaker 3: I don't.
- 58:03Speaker 6: Want to be on a team anymore.
- 58:04Speaker 3: And you got all see men uh pulling his drama
- 58:07Speaker 3: as well, and it's like all right, we have to
- 58:08Speaker 3: ship him to Turkey. Either way, It's like like you
- 58:12Speaker 3: have all these factors still that play in your favor
- 58:15Speaker 3: and you don't win the Scudetto. And Conte himself said
- 58:19Speaker 3: like I'm never gonna say you've a metada because I'm
- 58:21Speaker 3: a Uventino and I respect that I respect, like I'm
- 58:25Speaker 3: half joking but half seriously just allowed to play. I
- 58:27Speaker 3: wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if all of a sudden,
- 58:29Speaker 3: at the end of the summer, sorry, at the at
- 58:31Speaker 3: the end of the year, like Conte is like, all right,
- 58:33Speaker 3: well I had my fun little trial run with the
- 58:36Speaker 3: athletes are working out. Hey, you've adian manager, Sure pay
- 58:39Speaker 3: me the money again.
- 58:40Speaker 6: I'll come along.
- 58:41Speaker 2: Why not?
- 58:41Speaker 3: And then you just two three years of another court
- 58:44Speaker 3: Conte and another three scudettdet that elected, all of a
- 58:48Speaker 3: sudden's gonna come back in and carry on for another
- 58:50Speaker 3: five or six because he's just gonna basically inherit that.
- 58:54Speaker 5: Stupid don't don't speak, don't speak it into existence. I
- 58:57Speaker 5: don't think a lot on build a handle another max
- 59:00Speaker 5: three point zero, A lot of you. There's a lot
- 59:03Speaker 5: of people out there that ask for going to come back.
- 59:07Speaker 3: Because he always brought positive results. Like it's like, I
- 59:09Speaker 3: don't think I've ever like from my personal recollection, I
- 59:13Speaker 3: don't think I've ever seen a bad Conte season with
- 59:17Speaker 3: Juve or just a Conte season in general. Like I
- 59:21Speaker 3: like even when okay, but I'm just thinking even even fixed,
- 59:29Speaker 3: you know, I'm just saying you said, I don't think
- 59:31Speaker 3: in general it's there No, but that's that's Totenham. I don't,
- 59:34Speaker 3: I don't.
- 59:35Speaker 4: I don't blame.
- 59:37Speaker 6: It's the first thing.
- 59:38Speaker 1: It's not us.
- 59:41Speaker 5: I know how a problem is Gonte in terms of
- 59:43Speaker 5: like what I think you'll see immediate impact on the
- 59:47Speaker 5: team and like the training and the results.
- 59:49Speaker 2: I think you'll get that.
- 59:50Speaker 5: I think it's the his relationship with the management, Like
- 59:55Speaker 5: how quickly that can go sour and we just we
- 59:58Speaker 5: just don't need that right now.
- 59:59Speaker 2: We've had enough rama. I just I don't.
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: I don't think event is gonna go down that road.
- 1:00:04Speaker 5: I think that my guesses are going to go find
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: I wouldn't be opposed to it, but I just I
- 1:00:13Speaker 5: think I would be a point. I don't think i'd
- 1:00:14Speaker 5: want Gonte back. I could see why they would do
- 1:00:16Speaker 5: it to kind of like it's an immediate boom.
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: He's gonna familiarity, change the culture.
- 1:00:21Speaker 5: Right, you know what you're gonna get, and going down
- 1:00:25Speaker 5: the path of like a Malta or a new coach
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: or someone trying to bring in a new system. You
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: know it's scary, right because you don't but you also
- 1:00:34Speaker 5: need results quickly, but do you have how much time
- 1:00:36Speaker 5: do you give him to implement everything? I think after Mata,
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: I I have my doubts that they would do something
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: like bringing a new coach again. But I don't think
- 1:00:48Speaker 5: they bring go through electric. I think to look at
- 1:00:50Speaker 5: someone who's more established, who's been in city. Yeah, I
- 1:00:53Speaker 5: think that's a big that's a big thing too. I
- 1:00:55Speaker 5: think having a coach who understands the league is something
- 1:00:58Speaker 5: that you mean to events, is gonna need bring it
- 1:01:02Speaker 5: in a foreigner. I don't think it's gonna work.
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: I don't think their fan.
- 1:01:05Speaker 7: I don't think the fan basically will be able to
- 1:01:07Speaker 7: handle it, to be honest, because you're like a new coach,
- 1:01:10Speaker 7: like like you said earlier at Palladino, and I you
- 1:01:12Speaker 7: know I didn't.
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: I didn't jump in at that point.
- 1:01:14Speaker 7: But I'll say now, like guy that Italiano I remember
- 1:01:17Speaker 7: was in the news like a handful of years ago.
- 1:01:19Speaker 7: Now whatever last season, whatever it was, Uh, it's like,
- 1:01:23Speaker 7: I don't think you want these shiny pieces, and you
- 1:01:26Speaker 7: got one now with Mata and now you guys are still.
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: Complaining, So it's like, what is it you have? There
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: is something he's got to give.
- 1:01:32Speaker 7: So I personally don't think the fan base and especially
- 1:01:36Speaker 7: the hardcore like you know, the cord and all that,
- 1:01:39Speaker 7: I don't think they'll be able to handle and more
- 1:01:41Speaker 7: of that, to be honest with you, So I think
- 1:01:43Speaker 7: the experience route, to your point, Tony is is personally
- 1:01:47Speaker 7: the way to go after this Mata experience experiment. But
- 1:01:52Speaker 7: you guys were talking about you know, Yieldiz and and whatever.
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: His his you know, you see him kind of sticking
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: around and or not sticking around, but you know, where
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: do you want like where do you see you got
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: like yill this.
- 1:02:02Speaker 7: What kind of wanted to elaborate onto that and and
- 1:02:04Speaker 7: kind of maybe you know, get your guys opinions on
- 1:02:07Speaker 7: on because a couple of seasons ago, you know, it
- 1:02:10Speaker 7: was like who are the cornerstones of this Juventus team?
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: You know, and who are you going to build this
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: team around?
- 1:02:15Speaker 7: And kind of the names of you know, Volvich, you
- 1:02:17Speaker 7: know Kieza at the time.
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: You know where you know, if it.
- 1:02:21Speaker 7: Be Deballo in the past, if it be you know, uh,
- 1:02:24Speaker 7: you know the defense that that was that was really strong,
- 1:02:26Speaker 7: you know, like sap Bremmer now or obviously other names.
- 1:02:29Speaker 7: But Tony, I want to kind of get your opinion
- 1:02:32Speaker 7: and maybe Nick if to join in after. But with
- 1:02:36Speaker 7: this whole situation with Juventus, you know you kind of
- 1:02:40Speaker 7: said earlier Tony, you want to see this, you want
- 1:02:42Speaker 7: to make these judgments of after this whole financial stuff
- 1:02:45Speaker 7: and and really kind of get back on on level
- 1:02:48Speaker 7: page there. But who are in your opinion these cornerstones
- 1:02:51Speaker 7: of this Juventus to kind of say, hey, you know what,
- 1:02:54Speaker 7: I'm going to stick with these core guys if it
- 1:02:57Speaker 7: be three, four, five players, to say, listen, I'm going
- 1:03:00Speaker 7: to take this these players with the additions that I
- 1:03:03Speaker 7: can potentially add in the in the future, to say
- 1:03:05Speaker 7: I'm going to build the next Juventus with if there
- 1:03:08Speaker 7: is any I would hope to our thumb on this
- 1:03:10Speaker 7: team for you, Tony, who are those cornerstones of this events?
- 1:03:14Speaker 5: I could I could name him pretty quick. I think
- 1:03:16Speaker 5: just start the back. I think Digagodia is going to
- 1:03:19Speaker 5: be the guy for a while. Okay, twenty six years old.
- 1:03:22Speaker 5: I think we got our keeper for Nick, what fourteen years?
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: I think he's going to be around. I think he's
- 1:03:28Speaker 5: going to be around for long. I'm not gonna say
- 1:03:30Speaker 5: he's like Bouffon or anything, but we got him for
- 1:03:33Speaker 5: eighteen million. We bought Tech for sixteen million. Look how
- 1:03:36Speaker 5: I think Tech played well? You know he turned out
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: was a good deal. It was a good deal.
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:03:42Speaker 5: So I think Digagogiel is one. Bremer I think is
- 1:03:45Speaker 5: like a one your a one piece that whatever he wants,
- 1:03:50Speaker 5: you give it to him. Bremer that team might might
- 1:03:56Speaker 5: be the guy. I'm not sure. We'll see how that
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: turns out.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: I think.
- 1:04:02Speaker 5: I don't think he's gonna stay and I don't think
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: he's gonna be a cornerstone. But I like what Vegas brought.
- 1:04:09Speaker 5: Uh since he came from Chelsea. I know it's it's
- 1:04:12Speaker 5: a dry loan, but he's a guy. He just he
- 1:04:15Speaker 5: has just that grinted He just looks like he gets it.
- 1:04:18Speaker 5: He gets what Juventus is, and you want.
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: Guys who get it.
- 1:04:22Speaker 5: So I think, guess Diegodio Pettine, hopefully you can stay Bremmer.
- 1:04:26Speaker 5: Look at Telly, I think it's gonna be one. I
- 1:04:29Speaker 5: think Tudam is the other one. Tudam has really set
- 1:04:31Speaker 5: himself above everybody these past Look at Telly was good
- 1:04:36Speaker 5: the first half of the season. He's kind of fallen
- 1:04:38Speaker 5: off a little bit these past couple of games, but
- 1:04:41Speaker 5: two times a guy. But you also need, right the
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: role players, Like no team other than like those Barcelona
- 1:04:48Speaker 5: and Real Madrid teams are gonna have guys that are
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: lights at every position. So if you want your course ones,
- 1:04:53Speaker 5: you need like these role players, Guys like McKenny that
- 1:04:56Speaker 5: are gonna give you those minutes, Guys like you know
- 1:05:01Speaker 5: Way is playing, well, who else can we throw in there?
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: Like you?
- 1:05:11Speaker 5: Or I think Yeldis is Yeah, I think I want
- 1:05:14Speaker 5: to put deuce On in there, but you know he's
- 1:05:16Speaker 5: sort of falling off. I just don't I don't see
- 1:05:18Speaker 5: that happening. But Yelis would be one yieldie. Look at
- 1:05:21Speaker 5: Tlli Tutam Brammer.
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: And then you know, you have to have your grinders.
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: You have to have those.
- 1:05:27Speaker 5: Guys there that are going to go in there and
- 1:05:29Speaker 5: give you the effort. And I honestly believe I know
- 1:05:34Speaker 5: Nick's not going to agree with this. Cope Minors is
- 1:05:38Speaker 5: going to be the guy in the future. There's no
- 1:05:41Speaker 5: you cannot tell me someone who is that good instead
- 1:05:45Speaker 5: of yeah, all of a sudden, it's ship like there's
- 1:05:48Speaker 5: just it doesn't compute in my head how that happens.
- 1:05:55Speaker 5: We it could be the drugs, you know, gasp, he
- 1:05:58Speaker 5: might be done in Atlanta. Maybe bring him and drug
- 1:06:00Speaker 5: up the players. I don't know allegedly. I'm not saying
- 1:06:02Speaker 5: he's doing that, but it doesn't I am not giving
- 1:06:06Speaker 5: up on Colt Myers. I am not giving up on him.
- 1:06:09Speaker 5: You know, he's twenty six, Like, what the hell are
- 1:06:12Speaker 5: we talking about? He's on a five year contract.
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: Duglas Luise. I think he's a lot.
- 1:06:18Speaker 5: Of talent, but I think he might have to go right,
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: just it's just unfortunate. It's just not working out. Cot
- 1:06:24Speaker 5: Myers is the one guy. Look at Telly didn't have
- 1:06:27Speaker 5: a good what nick a year and a half when
- 1:06:29Speaker 5: he first came here. It took a while to kind
- 1:06:31Speaker 5: of get him going. I think ultimately Coate Myriers is
- 1:06:35Speaker 5: going to be the general that we need out there.
- 1:06:39Speaker 5: A lot of people are gonna like that. But he
- 1:06:42Speaker 5: would also be in that group of cornerstone players.
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.
- 1:06:45Speaker 5: It doesn't make sense that a player was that good
- 1:06:48Speaker 5: and now is this like unless we got his twin
- 1:06:51Speaker 5: brother that you know, imagine, came off the bus.
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: Who is this guy?
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: Food yeah, food miners, Yeah.
- 1:07:02Speaker 5: I think those six players, I think those six players
- 1:07:04Speaker 5: were and then he just kind of, you know, mix
- 1:07:07Speaker 5: and match with players around that.
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: Sure, Nick agreed. Disagree any additions.
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure about. Look Atatelly, I think maybe
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: more of a that role leadership type of role player.
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: Maybe not starting every game, if you know, on an
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: ideal you've a But I love Tam, I absolutely love him.
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: I think he's a beast. That whole family is just
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: genetic master class out there. I'm not sure he I'm
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: not sure he'll stay with us a long long time
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: just because. Okay, first of all, another player you've a
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: bought out right this summer? Right, See, I'm not I'm
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: not in tune players, calm, I see the social media pulps. Great,
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: I'm not in tune of what's alone, what's by obligation
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: to buy? Let me let me look this up myself.
- 1:07:56Speaker 5: So ke Fron Turam came on twenty million guaranteed on
- 1:07:59Speaker 5: a five your contract.
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: Okay, he's a Uventus player.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: Okay, good to know, good years old. Yeah, yeah, he's
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: he's he's fantastic. I wish oh I found this out
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: of him today. He's actually born in Italy. Did not
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: know that. I hope he's like, you know, a Uventino
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: al Coode, stays with the team for a long time,
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: but I could see him wanting to move maybe to
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: like Real Madrid to Barcelona in the future. But we'll see,
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: you know. For strikers, I think that between all which
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: and colom Wani, neither of them are you know, the
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: strikers in the future. Colm Wani great start, great player,
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: but I don't think he's going to be a player
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: that they're going to rely on every game for a
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: long term. So they'll proyct to go out and you know,
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: find someone else of that one player. I do like that.
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: He didn't mention it's gonna say so. I I really
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: do like his energy. I know he's on the loan
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: and they're kind of working to buy him, so we'll
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: have to see. Uh. I'm not sure he's the type
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: of player you want to start every single game in
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: a season at which you're playing Champions League. Coulp Retalia said, yeah,
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: you know, he came off the bench date you look good.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: But no, I personally I like him, And then besides that,
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan McKenny. I like why I you know,
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: I like his growth. I like a lot of guys
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: that aren't Italian apparently, uh and obviously Bramer in the
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: back end, and obviously Digo Groy. Yes, you know, he
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: had a rough start, but I think based on you know,
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: his recent games, he's you know, you could tell he's
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: the goal in the future. I think at the end
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: of the day, like you know, if you're vague, goalie
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: should be the position you should worry about the most.
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: You got a solid goalie, but you build a good
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: team after where they have to make two three stops
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: the game, right, But no, that's it. It will be
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: interesting to see what the management viewses this as the course. Well.
- 1:09:59Speaker 7: I think also just the midfield is that is for me,
- 1:10:03Speaker 7: would be a main core uh that you would have
- 1:10:05Speaker 7: to establish.
- 1:10:06Speaker 4: No, Juventus has.
- 1:10:07Speaker 7: Been trying to, uh you know, perfect that for for
- 1:10:10Speaker 7: many many years.
- 1:10:12Speaker 4: Uh you know, after.
- 1:10:13Speaker 7: The you know, the Vidal, the pier Low the park
- 1:10:15Speaker 7: bad days and and all that brilliance there. But I
- 1:10:19Speaker 7: think if you can shore up your midfield, because for
- 1:10:21Speaker 7: me it games are won and lost in the midfield.
- 1:10:24Speaker 7: It's the engine that that that makes everything run and uh,
- 1:10:27Speaker 7: you know, if that's not at one hundred percent, I
- 1:10:30Speaker 7: think it shows no defensively and offensively, because they're the
- 1:10:35Speaker 7: ones that guide, uh, you know, and help both ways.
- 1:10:38Speaker 7: So just to add on to what you guys are saying,
- 1:10:40Speaker 7: I think if you show up that midfield, if it
- 1:10:42Speaker 7: be a Tam again, I'm not sure if I'm huge
- 1:10:44Speaker 7: on look at Telly either for for the for the
- 1:10:47Speaker 7: next you know, a handful of years, but you know, uh,
- 1:10:51Speaker 7: for Turam for sure. The cool minor thing I think
- 1:10:53Speaker 7: will forever be a mystery until if, and until he
- 1:10:57Speaker 7: does change the narrative, because I don't know if you will.
- 1:11:01Speaker 7: It's surprising to me too, Tony. I think it was
- 1:11:04Speaker 7: surprising for all CETI of fans, regardless if you support
- 1:11:07Speaker 7: Uventus or not. You know, from you know, scoring, you know,
- 1:11:13Speaker 7: double digit goals and not even you know, hitting himself
- 1:11:17Speaker 7: in the face with the ball today like what like
- 1:11:19Speaker 7: what like it's it's it's comedy.
- 1:11:21Speaker 4: It's comedy. Yeah, So I don't know. But another thing
- 1:11:27Speaker 4: I wanted, I don't know if Tony, if you have
- 1:11:28Speaker 4: something else to really go ahead.
- 1:11:31Speaker 7: It was just it was kind of more changing, changing
- 1:11:33Speaker 7: the pace. But you know, I just wanted to get
- 1:11:36Speaker 7: your we want to kind of get your opinion also
- 1:11:38Speaker 7: on you know, I know me Nick kind of spoke
- 1:11:40Speaker 7: a bit about it last week with our with our
- 1:11:42Speaker 7: guest Marco last week when we're talking Melan But the
- 1:11:46Speaker 7: Champions League exit, Uh, is it again not surprise disappointment?
- 1:11:52Speaker 4: Like what like? It obviously hurts, it doesn't. You can't
- 1:11:55Speaker 4: hide that, the fact of that.
- 1:11:57Speaker 7: But I just want to get your We want to
- 1:11:58Speaker 7: get your overall opinion on on on the Champions League
- 1:12:01Speaker 7: exit and kind of what sane, if anything, it does
- 1:12:05Speaker 7: for for this season.
- 1:12:06Speaker 5: Well, there was no for me, there was no expectations
- 1:12:10Speaker 5: of winning Champions.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: League this year. Sure, yeah, I'm not diluted, right, Yeah.
- 1:12:15Speaker 4: Of.
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: The club's goal was.
- 1:12:22Speaker 5: Last sixteen, so try and finish in the top eight
- 1:12:25Speaker 5: to get automatic qualification to that. I I did not.
- 1:12:33Speaker 5: I was hoping we could get the top sixteen. When
- 1:12:36Speaker 5: we had to go to the third to the round
- 1:12:38Speaker 5: of thirty two and we drew PSV, I'm like, oh, doable.
- 1:12:44Speaker 5: So on one hand, again I didn't have expectations of
- 1:12:48Speaker 5: making a deep run, but.
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: It's just like you should have.
- 1:12:53Speaker 5: You should have at least made it past that team.
- 1:12:58Speaker 5: So I, you know, sort of answer your question. I
- 1:13:01Speaker 5: answer your question. I'm not upset about it. I'm a
- 1:13:06Speaker 5: little but I'm a little disappointed, Like, come on, guys, like,
- 1:13:09Speaker 5: what are we doing? You already you already beat this
- 1:13:10Speaker 5: team once you won the first leg, Like it's like
- 1:13:14Speaker 5: you're you had one foot into the round of sixteen.
- 1:13:17Speaker 5: So it's a little bit disappointment. Didn't have a lot
- 1:13:20Speaker 5: of expectations anyways, but again, you got it. It's these
- 1:13:24Speaker 5: these small things that I've just been non on us
- 1:13:27Speaker 5: our year. It's like you take one step forward and
- 1:13:30Speaker 5: like one and a half steps back. It's like we
- 1:13:33Speaker 5: can't really we finally got four in a row in city, yeah,
- 1:13:36Speaker 5: but we're still not and then we we do this today,
- 1:13:40Speaker 5: it's like there's no real like growth. I think a
- 1:13:43Speaker 5: lot of people just want to see growth and we're not.
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: We're not really seeing that.
- 1:13:46Speaker 5: So if we made the round sixteen and sort of competed,
- 1:13:51Speaker 5: even if we competed in that second leg, you know,
- 1:13:54Speaker 5: and you know showed something, PSB just played better, right,
- 1:13:57Speaker 5: and we just we're going at it like throwing Hayman
- 1:14:01Speaker 5: and then we got I think a lot of people
- 1:14:02Speaker 5: would have been okay with that, but it's just the
- 1:14:03Speaker 5: way we went out is just disappointing.
- 1:14:07Speaker 7: That's fair, it's kind of I think overall for the
- 1:14:10Speaker 7: Italian teams. I know why we spoke about me one,
- 1:14:12Speaker 7: we spoke about a bit about Juventus and we've got
- 1:14:14Speaker 7: your opinions tonight and obviously at Atlanta one too, which
- 1:14:17Speaker 7: was disappointing as well.
- 1:14:18Speaker 4: But I think it's I think you.
- 1:14:20Speaker 7: Said it right, like the way it happened and the
- 1:14:22Speaker 7: way we couldn't advance against the opposition, no disrespect, but
- 1:14:26Speaker 7: I think we should have advanced. You know, the mean
- 1:14:30Speaker 7: WANs of the world, the Juventus Is of the world,
- 1:14:31Speaker 7: the Atlanta's of the world.
- 1:14:33Speaker 4: It didn't.
- 1:14:33Speaker 7: It wasn't to be, so it does hurt. And I
- 1:14:37Speaker 7: think it puts that much more importance on finishing top
- 1:14:41Speaker 7: four this season to try to even get back in
- 1:14:45Speaker 7: the Champions League next year, because you missed that on
- 1:14:47Speaker 7: Champions League that already that money you talked about financials earlier, Tony.
- 1:14:50Speaker 7: I think that that Champions League money obviously is a
- 1:14:52Speaker 7: big help, a big boost for a lot of these clubs,
- 1:14:56Speaker 7: So not getting there, it's it would put a damper
- 1:14:59Speaker 7: and you know, back track a little bit of that
- 1:15:01Speaker 7: progress and growth.
- 1:15:02Speaker 4: I think you can.
- 1:15:02Speaker 5: Say, does the winner of the Coupe Italian automatically Champions
- 1:15:06Speaker 5: League or Europa League Europa Europa.
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's what I thought. I thought I heard
- 1:15:12Speaker 2: the winner. I thought the commentaries should say that was
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: that was.
- 1:15:16Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: Yeah, the commentary said, I mean too id that I was.
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: I don't think that's wrong. I we're wrong, and that's
- 1:15:25Speaker 4: no possible. But I don't think so.
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think so. I thought it was definitely
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: Europa League.
- 1:15:30Speaker 5: But yeah, it's you got to get into Europe at
- 1:15:32Speaker 5: something like obviously Champions League. The way that our financials
- 1:15:37Speaker 5: are working, we have to be Champions League. Europa League
- 1:15:39Speaker 5: would be I think, fine, but.
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: It's just way too much money right.
- 1:15:44Speaker 5: To h to pass up. Ye, I gotta get in there.
- 1:15:49Speaker 4: I totally agree. And listen, the fight is is strong
- 1:15:52Speaker 4: so far, it's been. I think it's gonna go down
- 1:15:55Speaker 4: to the wire personally, not only for this but for
- 1:15:58Speaker 4: that top four, those top four spots. There's a lot
- 1:16:01Speaker 4: of clubs that are fluttering around that fourth spot. I
- 1:16:04Speaker 4: don't know if if third is going to be as
- 1:16:06Speaker 4: up for grabs as it might be. I don't know yet, but.
- 1:16:11Speaker 7: For four, there's you know, obviously the Juventus is the
- 1:16:14Speaker 7: you know, the Lazios, the Fidentina is the Muans, the
- 1:16:17Speaker 7: Roma is now ten on ten on beaten right, So
- 1:16:21Speaker 7: it's gonna be uh, you know, down to the wire
- 1:16:23Speaker 7: in my personal opinion, So we're gonna have to wait
- 1:16:25Speaker 7: and see who who does you know, surpass the other
- 1:16:28Speaker 7: and and and gain that fourth spot. But just to
- 1:16:32Speaker 7: kind of end everything, you know, yes, it was a
- 1:16:34Speaker 7: goom me day for Juventus, but you know you got
- 1:16:36Speaker 7: to give your hats off to an employee.
- 1:16:39Speaker 4: Just going back to what today's game.
- 1:16:40Speaker 7: First time ever in the semifinal for Copealia list and
- 1:16:43Speaker 7: it's something for them.
- 1:16:44Speaker 4: It's a big it's a big achievement.
- 1:16:47Speaker 7: So we now see two eggs of emp in Bologna
- 1:16:51Speaker 7: and the widel Madalina with me and Aint So Copeali,
- 1:16:55Speaker 7: I think is still heating up.
- 1:16:57Speaker 4: We'll see how it ends.
- 1:16:58Speaker 7: But a bit of an obviously disappointment today for Juventus, guys,
- 1:17:05Speaker 7: I think, do we have anything else?
- 1:17:06Speaker 4: I think that was pretty much it. How much you
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: got anything else to add?
- 1:17:11Speaker 5: No, No, I appreciate you guys inviting me on. It's
- 1:17:12Speaker 5: always fun, come on here, it's been a while. It's
- 1:17:14Speaker 5: been a couple of years since I've been on. It's
- 1:17:17Speaker 5: been yeah, so uh no, I appreciate it.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:17:20Speaker 5: I love talking to you guys. And know Johnny's over
- 1:17:22Speaker 5: there checking his Twitter account right now. But that's okay.
- 1:17:26Speaker 5: Yeah whatever, you're not wrong wrong, Uh, I appreciate it.
- 1:17:33Speaker 4: He'st his five girlfriends.
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: But let me let me at least work on getting
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: one before I.
- 1:17:43Speaker 4: Gave you five. What do you mean one? I give
- 1:17:45Speaker 4: you five.
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: Let me work on getting one.
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: But all I wanted to say, you're talking about school.
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: That's the top four, depending on what happens this weekend,
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: goes enter and aptly play each other. If that game
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: finishes at a time wins on Monday, they can six
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: points at first. So maybe you should shoot for first place,
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: so you know, shoot for the moon, you lie line
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: the mongst the stars, right, So a for first place
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: and to four. I'm just saying that. But no, they're
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: not going to win.
- 1:18:17Speaker 3: This place could still be a Champions League spot depending
- 1:18:20Speaker 3: what does.
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: Yeah, it's possible.
- 1:18:23Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's gonna happen.
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: It's possible. Where anybody jumps down my throat, possible a.
- 1:18:29Speaker 4: Lot of things have to go right for game.
- 1:18:32Speaker 7: Yes, course, currently I don't think it's looking good at
- 1:18:35Speaker 7: I know I want to work.
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: I know Spain I thought it was impossible.
- 1:18:40Speaker 4: Is it impossible? I thought it was.
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: I think it's pretty close to impossible.
- 1:18:43Speaker 3: Just yeah, But there's a hope, a chance, I think, right,
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: if there's.
- 1:18:52Speaker 7: More like what in a million, it's still a chance, Nicker,
- 1:18:57Speaker 7: you're looking it up before we go a pair.
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: Currently the coefficients, Italy is currently still in second place
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: by a lot a lot, by four points over Spain.
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: But I guess that will change. I don't know anything
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: about this stuff, so.
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: It's so so high level.
- 1:19:20Speaker 5: Italy went into Europe with eight teams, so the the
- 1:19:25Speaker 5: amount of points that you get gets split up amongst
- 1:19:28Speaker 5: eight teams, right, Spain went in with seven, Okay, so
- 1:19:32Speaker 5: that points split so every so they earn more points
- 1:19:38Speaker 5: per team because they have less teams. We have their average,
- 1:19:43Speaker 5: so they have a higher average per win or per result.
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: So they still have more teams. So I think it's
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: just a matter of time.
- 1:19:51Speaker 3: Now.
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: I don't think it matters that they will pass us.
- 1:19:55Speaker 7: I think I think if the only hope would be
- 1:19:57Speaker 7: as if lotso in role go the distance, I think,
- 1:20:02Speaker 7: or go to the final and then or one of
- 1:20:04Speaker 7: them win or whatever. I don't know if that plays
- 1:20:06Speaker 7: into anything, and then the Spanish teams don't advance past
- 1:20:09Speaker 7: maybe this point or whatever.
- 1:20:11Speaker 4: If that's a hope, I don't know.
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: I have to look into it more. I don't know.
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: I know it's I know it's pretty tough.
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:20:18Speaker 7: Anyways, listen, it is what it is, what it is,
- 1:20:20Speaker 7: its top four tough four is where it is. Back
- 1:20:22Speaker 7: to the old days, top four, fucking number five. It's
- 1:20:25Speaker 7: back to the old days. Oh cool, but listen, tony us.
- 1:20:30Speaker 7: Just thank you so much for taking the time. It's
- 1:20:32Speaker 7: always a pleasure. It's been way too long, like you said,
- 1:20:35Speaker 7: Uh that that will take the will take the bullet
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