Latest / 3 Guys Before The Game / 3 Guys Before The Game - Travis Trickett Visits (Episode 635)
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Hey, what's up. Gather around everybody. It's time for three
- 0:11Speaker 1: Guys before the game. Our summer series continues, and we
- 0:16Speaker 1: got one for you here. I mean, did I tell
- 0:18Speaker 1: you we got one for you? Yeah?
- 0:19Speaker 2: Fully loaded backfield here.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Yeah, we do it is. We've got two backs, got
- 0:24Speaker 1: a lead, got quarterback. We've got the dude. Senior offensive
- 0:28Speaker 1: assistant for the Mountaineers, Travis Trickett is our special guest.
- 0:32Speaker 1: We're talking Mountaineer football. And this is three Guys Before
- 0:37Speaker 1: the Game, Episode six thirty five. If you're a penciling
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- 1:23Speaker 1: Commonly's CPA group providing value beyond numbers. All right, let's
- 1:30Speaker 1: do it. We've been waiting to get Travis on. However,
- 1:37Speaker 1: as y'all know, there's a new world of football. It's
- 1:42Speaker 1: the season, it's off season conditioning, its spring practice, and
- 1:47Speaker 1: then it's hey, go find ninety nine new guys for
- 1:52Speaker 1: your roster because we have to have OTAs here coming up.
- 1:56Speaker 1: So we like pulled Trick out of the building like
- 2:00Speaker 1: a little bit of a long lunch. Good to have
- 2:02Speaker 1: you in here.
- 2:03Speaker 3: Good be here, Good to take a break from Like
- 2:06Speaker 3: you just mentioned, the last three weeks have been a whirlwind.
- 2:08Speaker 3: But good be here and uh good to take a
- 2:10Speaker 3: little bit of breather and talks amount their football man.
- 2:12Speaker 1: He looks sporty done.
- 2:14Speaker 2: I mean that's an elite quarters.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Zip I have not seen that one.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Yeah, you know my guy down you know, final looking field. Yeah,
- 2:22Speaker 3: we know you know he's been you know Daniels has
- 2:25Speaker 3: always been good to the Trigger family over the last
- 2:27Speaker 3: twenty years, you know, since the last time.
- 2:30Speaker 4: Oh I think I even got my prom outfit from
- 2:32Speaker 4: there when I was But the suits are like, like,
- 2:36Speaker 4: that's my go to.
- 2:36Speaker 2: So so through all phases of your life, you have
- 2:39Speaker 2: been able to consistent.
- 2:40Speaker 5: Yeah, you know for me, so sure you know the
- 2:43Speaker 5: way he's been here like four times.
- 2:46Speaker 2: I mean it is prom headquarters here greater north Central
- 2:50Speaker 2: Western area. But the way that he said, like the
- 2:52Speaker 2: trick and family.
- 2:53Speaker 1: No, he's no, he's aid I looking Field has always
- 2:55Speaker 1: been good to the Trigger kind of like a like
- 2:57Speaker 1: the guy's in the pit crew, like he's the NASCAR.
- 2:59Speaker 1: I can't thank fine Looking filling up on me game.
- 3:02Speaker 1: You know. I didn't want to say this. I didn't
- 3:03Speaker 1: want to say this, but we lost a cuff link
- 3:05Speaker 1: right before the show was able to start, and I
- 3:07Speaker 1: called Phil. He stayed up all night he molded molded
- 3:09Speaker 1: a cuff link. And we can't say enough about Fine
- 3:12Speaker 1: Looking for that.
- 3:12Speaker 2: That's one of the new ones though, that's only been.
- 3:15Speaker 3: And you know, he's the guy that I always get
- 3:17Speaker 3: complimented when other recruits come in. They're like, oh, that's great,
- 3:20Speaker 3: and the parents and and even the staff members.
- 3:22Speaker 4: And I always point him Daniel's elad stuff.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Yeah good, well, okay, so let's count how many years
- 3:29Speaker 1: you've been in this world of football since your days
- 3:33Speaker 1: here as a volunteer student assistant when you were basically
- 3:38Speaker 1: I always like, I always giggle about you. I really do,
- 3:42Speaker 1: Like I love your story because in the golden era
- 3:47Speaker 1: of Rich Rodriguez in Mountaineer football, you're a student, but
- 3:52Speaker 1: you're signaling the plays in.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Correct, sixth grader sitting over in meetings.
- 3:57Speaker 1: So to me, like the great like some of the
- 3:59Speaker 1: biggest win some of the greatest plays in school history.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Like my man, he's worrying about like anthropology one on
- 4:07Speaker 1: one and on Saturdays he's holding the plate. He's giving
- 4:12Speaker 1: you this Like I always find that quite fascinating.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, two thousand and three was my freshman
- 4:18Speaker 3: year here, and you know, so I always save my
- 4:21Speaker 3: coaching career started then. You know, I always credit coach
- 4:24Speaker 3: for I to give my first job, because this was
- 4:25Speaker 3: my first job. You know, when Dad, when I told
- 4:28Speaker 3: Dad my senior year high school, I wanted.
- 4:30Speaker 4: To coach, he got pissed. I was like, no, like Yeah.
- 4:34Speaker 3: He got really mad because our whole lives, all three
- 4:37Speaker 3: of us. He said, doctor lawyer something, don't coach. It's
- 4:42Speaker 3: it's too hard of life. You're too smart, Go do
- 4:44Speaker 3: something else.
- 4:45Speaker 4: And so I told him. He got extremely mad.
- 4:47Speaker 3: And uh, I remember it was on vacation actually up
- 4:50Speaker 3: to West Virginia to see my grandma up here in
- 4:52Speaker 3: Preston County. And and uh so this was in the car,
- 4:56Speaker 3: you told him, Yeah, in the in the front seat
- 5:00Speaker 3: because we were just we had just tripped down to
- 5:03Speaker 3: see somebody and we were driving back to West Virginia.
- 5:05Speaker 3: And it was that summer where I knew that's what
- 5:08Speaker 3: I wanted to do. And I think we're going to
- 5:10Speaker 3: go from point A to point B. And uh and
- 5:13Speaker 3: he said, you know, I told him I wanted to coach.
- 5:15Speaker 3: And he's like, well, if you're gonna do it, you're
- 5:17Speaker 3: not gonna ride my coattails. You're gonna we're going He
- 5:19Speaker 3: got mad. He's like, all right, I'm gonna find out
- 5:20Speaker 3: if you want to coach. So if you want to
- 5:22Speaker 3: do it, you gotta go see coach ride on yourself.
- 5:24Speaker 3: And uh and uh, you know I'm not going to
- 5:27Speaker 3: set anything up.
- 5:27Speaker 4: You gotta do it.
- 5:28Speaker 1: So said better than that.
- 5:30Speaker 4: Though, all right, that's what I'm thinking about right now,
- 5:33Speaker 4: is trying to like filter through. So I went in
- 5:39Speaker 4: there and uh, I knocked on coach Roy's door.
- 5:41Speaker 3: I remember the spring going to my freshman year and
- 5:43Speaker 3: I said, I said, coach, I want to start coaching.
- 5:46Speaker 3: He was great, and UH allowed me to do two
- 5:48Speaker 3: years on defense, two years on offense, and UH it
- 5:51Speaker 3: was a great experience.
- 5:51Speaker 1: You know.
- 5:52Speaker 3: I got two years on defense and the plan was
- 5:53Speaker 3: to move from D line to linebackers and do O
- 5:56Speaker 3: line our quarterbacks to O line.
- 5:59Speaker 4: And when I went to line.
- 6:00Speaker 3: With Carlaugh, which was the best first two years you
- 6:02Speaker 3: can be doctorated. Yeah, period after my first year, carl
- 6:07Speaker 3: I was like, you're not moving, You're staying with me.
- 6:08Speaker 4: So I stayed two the years.
- 6:09Speaker 3: And then I had a force to move to offense
- 6:12Speaker 3: and I was with quarterbacks and I was gonna move
- 6:14Speaker 3: to the line then coach and I was like, Nope,
- 6:15Speaker 3: you're not moving, You're staying right here with us. So,
- 6:17Speaker 3: you know, I got that experience and then got to
- 6:19Speaker 3: go GA and and do that all after. But yeah,
- 6:22Speaker 3: it was it was a great time. Obviously, it was
- 6:24Speaker 3: It was really neat looking back at it, and uh,
- 6:27Speaker 3: you know, to be part of the you know, just
- 6:29Speaker 3: to just be a you know, a spectator for some
- 6:32Speaker 3: of those meetings and those uh, those practices and those games,
- 6:35Speaker 3: and to be in the in the post game and
- 6:38Speaker 3: the and the Sunday meetings.
- 6:39Speaker 4: It was just really neat.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Why why so why?
- 6:42Speaker 5: I mean again, your dad said do something else? So
- 6:45Speaker 5: what was it that triggered you to say, no, I
- 6:48Speaker 5: want to do this?
- 6:49Speaker 1: You know.
- 6:50Speaker 3: So my senior year Morgan On High you know, you know,
- 6:53Speaker 3: I was playing, you know, I was trying to compete
- 6:55Speaker 3: to be the starting quarterback, lost that job, you know,
- 6:57Speaker 3: and uh, and ended up playing some deep but I
- 7:00Speaker 3: was just okay. And then I was like, man, I'm
- 7:02Speaker 3: not going to be a college football player, Bucht Like,
- 7:04Speaker 3: if I did, it's just to do it.
- 7:06Speaker 4: You're not really going to excel at it.
- 7:08Speaker 3: And during that season, you know, I would try to
- 7:11Speaker 3: be on sidelines and I remember one time there was
- 7:13Speaker 3: one game, like coach Bauers was there and I gave
- 7:15Speaker 3: them a hey, I think we run the draw here.
- 7:18Speaker 3: I think you're rushing up at the end.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Of plays on beans Bowers.
- 7:22Speaker 3: That's right, and so, and he actually said, hey, call this,
- 7:26Speaker 3: and they called it and it spit for twenty and
- 7:28Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I might be able to
- 7:30Speaker 3: do this so and so and then what But what
- 7:34Speaker 3: it did was it allowed me, you know, selfishly, as
- 7:36Speaker 3: a competitor, you want to compete at the highest level,
- 7:38Speaker 3: and it was an opportunity for me to compete. And
- 7:41Speaker 3: it was the route that I thought, like, man, as
- 7:43Speaker 3: a competitor, this is going to allow me. I know
- 7:45Speaker 3: I could compete at the highest level doing this. But
- 7:48Speaker 3: then when I got to college, I realized I didn't
- 7:50Speaker 3: know I had a love for teaching. And so I
- 7:53Speaker 3: found my love for teaching with those in those practices
- 7:57Speaker 3: and teaching the guys and seeing them do what I
- 7:59Speaker 3: tell them and go out there and perform in the
- 8:02Speaker 3: satisfaction I got from being a teacher. And then as
- 8:05Speaker 3: the years go on, you realize, you know, the relationships,
- 8:08Speaker 3: that part of it is what keeps you going, because
- 8:10Speaker 3: if it's all, you know, I'm always going to compete.
- 8:12Speaker 3: But if you just hang on just competing and teaching,
- 8:15Speaker 3: the highs and lows are going to just absolutely you'll
- 8:18Speaker 3: lose all your hair and you know, and all that
- 8:20Speaker 3: but the relationships last a lifetime.
- 8:23Speaker 4: And that's been the special part of my career.
- 8:25Speaker 3: And I think all coaches out there as they why
- 8:28Speaker 3: they do it, and they go through what they go
- 8:30Speaker 3: through nowadays.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Think about the dudes that you have sat in on
- 8:35Speaker 1: their meetings. Yeah, Nick Saban, Jim bow Rich, I mean,
- 8:41Speaker 1: just to name a few, And you mentioned her lab.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Her lab is legendary. Your dad is like legendary, like
- 8:47Speaker 1: just within the business. If you just say offensive line coach,
- 8:50Speaker 1: they go like Rick Crickett, like he has. He has
- 8:53Speaker 1: put himself into the mount rushmore of offensive line coaches
- 8:56Speaker 1: all time. And just think about the unbelievable blessing that
- 9:02Speaker 1: you have had of being able to be around some
- 9:04Speaker 1: of the guys that have been the single most successful
- 9:06Speaker 1: in the history of the game.
- 9:08Speaker 4: I say that all time.
- 9:09Speaker 3: I wish I could go back and do it all
- 9:11Speaker 3: over again to really maximize my experience, because I went
- 9:15Speaker 3: from I mean I always I tell everybody I had
- 9:17Speaker 3: Hall of famers from start to finish. Coach Rodriguez is
- 9:20Speaker 3: gonna be Hall of Famer, you know what I mean.
- 9:21Speaker 4: So I had that in college.
- 9:23Speaker 3: Then I go GA for Nick Saban on that first
- 9:26Speaker 3: st at the one season they didn't win ten games.
- 9:28Speaker 3: I was there for the seven to sixth seasons, so
- 9:30Speaker 3: I got to see the transition and how he laid
- 9:33Speaker 3: the infrastructure of University Alabama and the staff and what
- 9:35Speaker 3: he wanted to do, and that coaching staff we had.
- 9:38Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Jeremy Prue was in the weight room.
- 9:41Speaker 3: You know, we had you know, Jeff Collins, who was
- 9:43Speaker 3: a former former head coach, was director of recruiting. You know,
- 9:46Speaker 3: Kirby Smart was dB coach. Like there's all these coaches,
- 9:49Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti was receivers coach. There's this staff of just
- 9:53Speaker 3: you know, guys that were going to be great head coaches.
- 9:56Speaker 3: And then so I go from there, and then I
- 9:58Speaker 3: go to Florida State and I get to be with
- 10:00Speaker 3: Bobby Valden for his last two seasons. I get to
- 10:03Speaker 3: be part of his last game and be on that staff,
- 10:06Speaker 3: and then help Jimbo transition and be Jimbo's GA for
- 10:08Speaker 3: three years and then go to even My first job
- 10:11Speaker 3: was with Pat Sullivan, Heisman Trophy winner at Stanford and
- 10:15Speaker 3: an all time great and and so like my career
- 10:18Speaker 3: has been like a blessing. I wish I would go
- 10:20Speaker 3: back and really maximize my time with those guys.
- 10:23Speaker 2: And uh.
- 10:23Speaker 3: But you know, over the over that course and over
- 10:25Speaker 3: that span, you really pull. You find out who you
- 10:28Speaker 3: are as a coach, and you pull from what those coaches.
- 10:32Speaker 3: You know, you find yourself and they pour into you.
- 10:35Speaker 2: And uh.
- 10:36Speaker 4: And so I've always learned.
- 10:37Speaker 3: Like a lot of the positives and a lot of
- 10:38Speaker 3: the negatives and and try to apply it to what
- 10:41Speaker 3: I do.
- 10:41Speaker 2: Now that's some different styles. They're all great. Oh yeah,
- 10:44Speaker 2: what what's the thread that made each of those great?
- 10:49Speaker 3: I would say they they were the competitiveness of all
- 10:52Speaker 3: of them. I mean, I think they were all ultra competitors.
- 10:55Speaker 3: They all competed in their own different way. That's a
- 10:57Speaker 3: great question. I've never been asked that they all handle
- 11:01Speaker 3: it different ways.
- 11:02Speaker 4: But like even Coach.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Bowden, who was as you know, our staff beings, we
- 11:06Speaker 3: tell a story and he take his classes off and
- 11:08Speaker 3: he'd tip back and he said, all right, let me
- 11:10Speaker 3: tell you about this, and then.
- 11:10Speaker 4: We'd all I'd sit back there like, all right, tell me,
- 11:13Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
- 11:13Speaker 3: So, but when we were out there on that field
- 11:15Speaker 3: and all that, like the competitiveness came through and the
- 11:18Speaker 3: drive to always compete even at that age. You know,
- 11:21Speaker 3: I'm seeing with my dad now at seventy eight, still coaching,
- 11:23Speaker 3: you know, And so the all time greats are ultra competitors,
- 11:28Speaker 3: but they're still who they are and they don't they
- 11:30Speaker 3: don't try to be somebody they're not or try to
- 11:32Speaker 3: like Waiver, and they really don't care what anyone of
- 11:35Speaker 3: those thinks.
- 11:36Speaker 4: They're true to.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Who they are. So as.
- 11:40Speaker 5: But those coaches like a Saban or a Bowden, would
- 11:45Speaker 5: they be as successful in today's environment which has changed
- 11:49Speaker 5: radically just over the last couple of years.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Another great question, I'd say, I do believe, So you know,
- 11:57Speaker 3: I think, I think you know what's happening college with ball.
- 12:00Speaker 3: There's probably hopefully it's going to be some consistency coming
- 12:02Speaker 3: up on the horizon, hopefully, But the great communicators and
- 12:07Speaker 3: the great teachers always seem to.
- 12:10Speaker 4: Rise to the top no matter what.
- 12:12Speaker 3: Like there's a reason why the programs and the coaches
- 12:15Speaker 3: that have always won have won.
- 12:16Speaker 4: You see with our head coach, coach Righte.
- 12:18Speaker 3: I mean even in today's world at a program at
- 12:21Speaker 3: Jack State, where you have less resources, you don't have
- 12:25Speaker 3: as much in transition from FCS to FBS and to
- 12:28Speaker 3: be able to do what he did there in short
- 12:29Speaker 3: amount of time. It's just it falls back in line
- 12:32Speaker 3: with his track record, you know, and so but it
- 12:35Speaker 3: also goes back.
- 12:36Speaker 4: To the type of competitor he is.
- 12:37Speaker 3: So I do believe those guys would in today's world
- 12:41Speaker 3: the all time greats. There's a reason why they've always
- 12:44Speaker 3: been great. And you can see those those coaches in
- 12:47Speaker 3: today's world, the ones that are able to and they're
- 12:49Speaker 3: always able to adapt because even back then, like they're
- 12:51Speaker 3: adapting from the eighties to the nineties to two thousands,
- 12:54Speaker 3: so there's always change and you're always adapting at least
- 12:56Speaker 3: a little bit. But I do believe so, and that's
- 12:59Speaker 3: why I believe that. You know, when this job came
- 13:01Speaker 3: open and everyone was, you know, oneing coach right to
- 13:03Speaker 3: get it.
- 13:04Speaker 4: You know, all of us that had been under coach.
- 13:05Speaker 3: Ryd were hoping he would get it, you know, because
- 13:07Speaker 3: you know, we we honestly believe that he was what
- 13:10Speaker 3: was you know, we all feel like he was what's
- 13:12Speaker 3: exactly what Western Football needed at that point in time.
- 13:14Speaker 1: So I think, to your answer to your question, Hoppy,
- 13:18Speaker 1: as I think, as he said, the great ones are
- 13:20Speaker 1: ultra competitive, so as the rules change, they just find
- 13:24Speaker 1: another thing to compete in.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Correct.
- 13:26Speaker 1: So like if they didn't know what the Transfer Portal was, Okay,
- 13:29Speaker 1: now we're going to play this new game, and this
- 13:30Speaker 1: new game is called the Transfer Portal, and I'm going
- 13:32Speaker 1: to play that game, so I want to win the
- 13:34Speaker 1: Transfer Portal. Right, That's how kind of they think it is.
- 13:37Speaker 4: And you know, the game is still the game, so
- 13:40Speaker 4: you still had that piece of it.
- 13:41Speaker 3: But but if it was all just based on hey,
- 13:43Speaker 3: if I'm a great X and O coach, well then
- 13:45Speaker 3: the great X and O coaches would always win every year,
- 13:47Speaker 3: year in year out, you know. I mean, if it's
- 13:48Speaker 3: always relationship based, you know, and the coaches that always
- 13:51Speaker 3: made you feel good and all that stuff, they would
- 13:53Speaker 3: win a year in year out.
- 13:54Speaker 4: It's not that it's not the case. This game can humble.
- 13:56Speaker 3: You extremely fast, and the great one always find a way.
- 14:02Speaker 3: I just think that they're always blessed with the ability
- 14:05Speaker 3: to create a team. How can they create the team
- 14:07Speaker 3: and how they envision that team to.
- 14:09Speaker 4: Be, whether whatever their philosophy is, and always.
- 14:12Speaker 3: Point to that with coach rod Is, like he and
- 14:15Speaker 3: all the former players, we all talk about this and
- 14:17Speaker 3: the guys that I'm friends with is he's the best
- 14:20Speaker 3: I've ever been around at at taking a team and
- 14:22Speaker 3: making them a team, making them become extremely close and
- 14:27Speaker 3: what they what our teams go through, whether it's practice
- 14:30Speaker 3: and our tensity and how we live in the toughness.
- 14:33Speaker 3: They always play extremely hard, and.
- 14:35Speaker 4: That is the hardest.
- 14:36Speaker 3: I think that's the hardest thing to do in today's world,
- 14:39Speaker 3: because I do believe in today's world, the element of toughness,
- 14:42Speaker 3: the tangible true like watch it on tape, see it graded,
- 14:48Speaker 3: that is not as relevant today. And there's a lot
- 14:50Speaker 3: of things I prohibited that where it's like less less
- 14:52Speaker 3: time teaching, less helmeted you know, more less pad practices,
- 14:57Speaker 3: rules where you can't block this way, you can't do
- 14:59Speaker 3: this like everyone's trying, and it has helped the game.
- 15:02Speaker 3: I get all that, but the element of blocking, tackling
- 15:07Speaker 3: and playing extremely hard has not changed. And I do
- 15:10Speaker 3: believe that Coach Rod is one of the best in
- 15:12Speaker 3: business at getting that done, especially in today's world. And
- 15:15Speaker 3: so I think that's that's going to be hopefully one
- 15:17Speaker 3: of our competitive advantages.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the all time, one of the all time
- 15:21Speaker 1: greats and you're either with us or without us.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Correct.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Like, if you're not in, you've already trickled out, you
- 15:27Speaker 1: become you become, you know, just someone that leaves. And
- 15:30Speaker 1: so what's left are all the guys that buy in
- 15:33Speaker 1: and that includes not just the players, but the assistants
- 15:36Speaker 1: and all the staff members, and his program will always
- 15:39Speaker 1: have that this is us correct, and so when you
- 15:42Speaker 1: go on the field, that's what he has forged. And
- 15:45Speaker 1: you're right, you can be really that can be really
- 15:47Speaker 1: fragmented nowadays the way the rosters are put together.
- 15:50Speaker 3: Correig because everything's you know, there's opportunity for our guys
- 15:53Speaker 3: to capitalize on their name, image, likeness, which is great.
- 15:56Speaker 3: Coach Rod's all for that. There's not many coaches against that.
- 16:00Speaker 3: But when that happens, sometimes you can lose sight of
- 16:02Speaker 3: the team and the team's goals and not I believe
- 16:05Speaker 3: coach does a great job of, you know, culminating that
- 16:08Speaker 3: environment where you know, the team is still first and
- 16:12Speaker 3: and for us, like you said, it's a program where
- 16:16Speaker 3: every individual in that building is one hundred percent all
- 16:19Speaker 3: in on this logo, this university, this state. We understand
- 16:23Speaker 3: how important is this state? We understand and that's why
- 16:25Speaker 3: the staff is made up where it is. We don't
- 16:27Speaker 3: have a lot of guys from places that don't either
- 16:29Speaker 3: have a relationship with Coach Rodriguez or understand what this
- 16:33Speaker 3: state's about and what this university means to this state.
- 16:36Speaker 3: And so when you have that it, you know, leadership
- 16:40Speaker 3: like it always trickles down the identity of your program
- 16:42Speaker 3: from the top down.
- 16:44Speaker 4: And that's where we.
- 16:45Speaker 3: I believe in that building over there, my push Guard Stadium.
- 16:49Speaker 3: You know, it's a building full of people that understand
- 16:51Speaker 3: how important this program is and what it means. And
- 16:54Speaker 3: we're working day in that day and day out to
- 16:56Speaker 3: make sure that that product is what's going to be
- 16:59Speaker 3: to the best far O build.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Okay, give us let's let's talk some examples of that,
- 17:02Speaker 2: of the competitiveness and having that happen, because I would
- 17:05Speaker 2: guess almost anybody in your position that we put up
- 17:08Speaker 2: on here is gonna is going to say those same things.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Rich specifically, how does that come through? Where's the competitiveness?
- 17:15Speaker 2: Show up a couple examples on field and off field,
- 17:19Speaker 2: and then trickling that down because I think you're right
- 17:21Speaker 2: as big as organizations are right now, it can't just
- 17:23Speaker 2: be rich that wants to be like that. It's got
- 17:25Speaker 2: to be all you guys for sure. So how how
- 17:27Speaker 2: does he get that from a leadership perspective, how does
- 17:31Speaker 2: that show itself and translate down to all of the
- 17:33Speaker 2: assistants and staff.
- 17:34Speaker 3: Well, for I think he's very coaches, very particular with
- 17:37Speaker 3: who he hires, you know, first off as staff members.
- 17:39Speaker 3: And that's the biggest piece. You know, he coach everyone
- 17:43Speaker 3: that he taught. He wants to make sure it's are
- 17:45Speaker 3: kind of people, you know, blue collar work ethic, understand
- 17:48Speaker 3: you know, there's no ego, and and do what it.
- 17:52Speaker 4: Takes to get the job done.
- 17:54Speaker 3: So from a competitive standpoint, the football piece is easy,
- 17:56Speaker 3: like everyone's competitive in football, you know, everyone's competitive football
- 17:59Speaker 3: all the time.
- 18:00Speaker 4: But I think it's it's.
- 18:01Speaker 3: The day in, day out, Like how hard he like,
- 18:03Speaker 3: I want these guys coached?
- 18:05Speaker 4: I want and he hired a staff and an infrastructure.
- 18:07Speaker 3: Now that we have on staff that allows people to
- 18:09Speaker 3: focus in on that piece, you know, like he you know,
- 18:12Speaker 3: when you have now a rule where you can have
- 18:14Speaker 3: as many coaches you want on staff, it allows you
- 18:17Speaker 3: to actually get which is a rule that's been long
- 18:20Speaker 3: time needed in our sport because we have always been
- 18:22Speaker 3: a sport where you know, our coaches outnumber our player
- 18:25Speaker 3: ratio compared to other sports by far, and so now
- 18:28Speaker 3: our players can get the coaching and the attention that
- 18:30Speaker 3: they need. And one point that coach Rodriguez said on
- 18:33Speaker 3: that point too, and he's been saying this recently, is
- 18:36Speaker 3: you know, he said, our sport requires the most fundamentals
- 18:39Speaker 3: to teach than any other sport, which is true. Like basketball,
- 18:41Speaker 3: you know, everyone has to dribble, everyone has to shoot,
- 18:43Speaker 3: everyone has to you know, there's things that translate that
- 18:46Speaker 3: even if you're a low post player to a point guard.
- 18:49Speaker 3: You know, yes, there are gonna be some different fundamentals
- 18:51Speaker 3: you have to work on. But there's a lot of
- 18:52Speaker 3: translatable soccer, baseball and all that. But with football, like
- 18:56Speaker 3: offensive linemen and quarterback or offensive line versus right each
- 19:00Speaker 3: position defense, the fundamentals are so vast and so you know,
- 19:06Speaker 3: there's so many of them you have to have that
- 19:09Speaker 3: those coaches to teach those things, in my opinion, which
- 19:12Speaker 3: I agree with them one hundred percent. So, but the
- 19:15Speaker 3: competitive piece of it, you know, how do you how
- 19:17Speaker 3: are you different? I think it's in the little details
- 19:19Speaker 3: of how you do things like how can we train
- 19:22Speaker 3: our guys year in year out? What are we doing
- 19:24Speaker 3: to gain the competitive advantage when they're at home? Do
- 19:27Speaker 3: they have stuff to work on? Let's put it this way.
- 19:29Speaker 3: Like as a staff, when it came to this transfer
- 19:31Speaker 3: portal recently, like coach challenges as he said, I want
- 19:34Speaker 3: every person in the portal evaluated, every single one. I
- 19:39Speaker 3: want I don't care if they're Division ie, I don't
- 19:41Speaker 3: care if they're Power four five, Division two, Division three.
- 19:45Speaker 3: I want everybody looked at.
- 19:47Speaker 2: Which was there's like four thousand, five thousand people four yeah, I.
- 19:52Speaker 4: Think just on offense, maybe four thousand people. So we
- 19:55Speaker 4: did that.
- 19:55Speaker 3: So we had to set up an infrastructure, uh and
- 19:58Speaker 3: a plan to get everybody watched. And that's what allowed
- 20:01Speaker 3: the staff size allows us to do that and to
- 20:04Speaker 3: get that information and get all those guys watched. So
- 20:06Speaker 3: then coach could come to our staff and he said,
- 20:09Speaker 3: all right, let me see, here's the daily report and
- 20:11Speaker 3: everyone's got a grade. So and the reason why he
- 20:13Speaker 3: did that is because last year at jack State, who
- 20:16Speaker 3: did they have.
- 20:17Speaker 4: Run for sixteen hundred yards a Division two running.
- 20:19Speaker 3: Back that they acquired right who was the conference player
- 20:22Speaker 3: of the year and if CS quarterback that they acquired right,
- 20:25Speaker 3: so he had read the benefit, but also to West
- 20:28Speaker 3: Virginia versus let's go back to the past of who
- 20:30Speaker 3: we've had.
- 20:30Speaker 4: Owen Schmidt, a Division III.
- 20:32Speaker 3: White constant, you know, Wisconsin River Falls running back who
- 20:36Speaker 3: ran for a thousand yards and walked on. Steve Slayton
- 20:38Speaker 3: the defensive back commitment to UH Maryland that they took
- 20:41Speaker 3: as a running back, Pat Wide a receiver commitment.
- 20:43Speaker 4: At LSU that they took as a quarterback.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Coach Roda throughout his history has had guys that, you know,
- 20:50Speaker 3: maybe may not be the you know, the the ideal
- 20:53Speaker 3: this or ideal that, but he sees it and evaluates
- 20:55Speaker 3: it and he's had success with those kinds of people,
- 20:58Speaker 3: whether it's you know, in all it's alignment, like Jeremy Sheffy,
- 21:01Speaker 3: who was a two hun and thirty five pound defensive
- 21:03Speaker 3: end when he was in high school, who comes in
- 21:05Speaker 3: becomes a three hundred pound guard for them back then.
- 21:08Speaker 3: So like those kind of people who's West Virginia football
- 21:11Speaker 3: has always been. We've always had those kind of guys
- 21:14Speaker 3: and taken you know, for like thet term taking waivers
- 21:16Speaker 3: on those guys and they've turned out to be all
- 21:19Speaker 3: timers here, and so that's one thing we're still going
- 21:23Speaker 3: to continue to do and be is we're going to
- 21:25Speaker 3: make sure those guys that maybe have been overlooked or
- 21:27Speaker 3: maybe have a chip on their shoulder and there's a
- 21:29Speaker 3: little bit more something here and here to go with
- 21:32Speaker 3: the player that they're gonna be fits for. So he
- 21:35Speaker 3: wants to make sure that we're leaving those stone unturned
- 21:36Speaker 3: because that's going to be our competitive advantage and that
- 21:38Speaker 3: aspect in the player evaluation standpoint. So that's just one
- 21:42Speaker 3: example I think that we used of how we can
- 21:44Speaker 3: be different. And so you may even see some of
- 21:46Speaker 3: these guys that were taking Division two guy in FCS
- 21:49Speaker 3: guy here, you know, and and they're trust me. Every
- 21:53Speaker 3: decision that we've made to acquire somebody or to evaluate
- 21:56Speaker 3: our current players or even from a football stand next
- 21:59Speaker 3: to no standpoint go through the most rigorous you know,
- 22:03Speaker 3: evaluation standpoint of whether we're going to do this or not,
- 22:06Speaker 3: whether we're going to take this person or not. And uh,
- 22:09Speaker 3: and I think coach does a great.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Job of that.
- 22:11Speaker 5: So so given that did you end up with.
- 22:16Speaker 4: Going through the portal?
- 22:17Speaker 5: Did you end up with Wow, we are we are good,
- 22:20Speaker 5: We're going to be good. We got everything, we got
- 22:21Speaker 5: almost everything we were looking for. Or did you end
- 22:24Speaker 5: up with Okay, we're building here, we're trying to build something.
- 22:27Speaker 5: I mean, where where do you think you ended up
- 22:29Speaker 5: talent wise with whatever number of new players that that
- 22:33Speaker 5: you guys?
- 22:33Speaker 3: Well, that's that's a great question. We're still not done yet,
- 22:35Speaker 3: so we're still adding. So so I'm still waiting on
- 22:37Speaker 3: phone calls right now as.
- 22:38Speaker 5: We're going, and you can, you can take that call
- 22:40Speaker 5: back if it's important.
- 22:41Speaker 3: I will be like, hey, guys, I'm out, but I'll
- 22:43Speaker 3: say this, that's a great question. I'll say, you don't
- 22:47Speaker 3: ever know to you know, let's put.
- 22:48Speaker 4: This, do you know you don't know?
- 22:50Speaker 2: The right answer is we don't totally know.
- 22:52Speaker 4: We don't totally know.
- 22:53Speaker 3: And that's the same thing all those guys I mentioned
- 22:55Speaker 3: that were great players for us. You know, Tony tells
- 22:57Speaker 3: a story about the Pat White thing, right, you know,
- 22:59Speaker 3: with me and back in the day. But I'd say this, like,
- 23:03Speaker 3: we don't you know, Steve Slayton wasn't the highly recruited
- 23:05Speaker 3: running back in that class, but he ended up being
- 23:07Speaker 3: that guy. No One knew who who owned Schmidt was.
- 23:11Speaker 3: You know, Dan Moses was a no star from Washington,
- 23:13Speaker 3: PA that ended up being a leader only team. Like
- 23:15Speaker 3: you could go through every player just about that we've
- 23:18Speaker 3: had come through that were great players, like very few
- 23:20Speaker 3: of them were like highly heralded, and then you ended
- 23:23Speaker 3: up having that same.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Translation DNA of West Virginia correct.
- 23:26Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
- 23:26Speaker 3: And so that's why I and that's why again Coach Wright,
- 23:29Speaker 3: I think, you know, obviously he being from West Virginia,
- 23:31Speaker 3: but you know, our teams are and the teams that
- 23:34Speaker 3: he's had is always you know, held a soft spot
- 23:37Speaker 3: into people's hearts because of how they identify with Right.
- 23:41Speaker 4: But when it comes to that he coacher was telling.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Us this story because I actually asked him, you know,
- 23:46Speaker 3: because we had acquired a couple running backs to compete
- 23:49Speaker 3: with Jean Right in d Or and then Tyle on
- 23:52Speaker 3: our roster, and you know, because he alluded to Trey
- 23:56Speaker 3: Stewart that they had last year at Jacksonville State, who
- 23:58Speaker 3: just signed a contract in the end, and he said, yeah,
- 24:02Speaker 3: we know, Tray, we saw, but we didn't know he
- 24:04Speaker 3: was going to be that. And then all of a sudden,
- 24:06Speaker 3: because he didn't even start the first game of the season,
- 24:08Speaker 3: you know, and then by game two, game three he
- 24:10Speaker 3: got in there and probably would add close to two
- 24:12Speaker 3: thousand yard rushing he first started the first two games,
- 24:14Speaker 3: you know. And same thing with the quarterback, like even
- 24:17Speaker 3: when they're on your team and then fall camp, you
- 24:19Speaker 3: may not know till I think that's probably why he
- 24:22Speaker 3: let the quarterbacks play a little bit live ball in
- 24:23Speaker 3: spring to kind of see who can elevate your game
- 24:25Speaker 3: when they're playing the game.
- 24:27Speaker 4: So you don't know.
- 24:29Speaker 3: Yet, Hobby, to be honest with you, but I feel
- 24:32Speaker 3: like we have added some competitive pieces to raise the
- 24:36Speaker 3: level competition each room, and I feel like we've got
- 24:39Speaker 3: the right makeup of the right kind of guy that
- 24:41Speaker 3: identifies with who we are as a program, who we
- 24:43Speaker 3: are as a state, who we are as university to
- 24:46Speaker 3: help again stay in that path of who we've got
- 24:49Speaker 3: to identify as as a team and how we're going
- 24:51Speaker 3: to play. So, like I said, that's why I can't
- 24:53Speaker 3: wait to get to summer, see these guys run around,
- 24:56Speaker 3: will lift some weights, and then get to fall camp
- 24:57Speaker 3: so we can see what they can do on the field.
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- 28:56Speaker 2: You just had a good question, what are we at
- 28:57Speaker 2: for tricket family tour of duties here. When you add
- 29:00Speaker 2: them all up, add Clinton and Clint played, You've been
- 29:04Speaker 2: here three.
- 29:05Speaker 4: The third time, this third time, dad, Dad was here twice.
- 29:09Speaker 2: Ye're six total tours of duty.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Yep.
- 29:12Speaker 4: There's a good bit of them. Yep, there's a good
- 29:13Speaker 4: bit of them.
- 29:14Speaker 3: So Chance was here for college for a little bit,
- 29:17Speaker 3: and then when Dad left, he went down to Tallassie too,
- 29:20Speaker 3: so seven seven, and then my wife went to school here,
- 29:23Speaker 3: so the you know eight but in your.
- 29:25Speaker 5: Bio, what's weird is I mean, there's no more West
- 29:28Speaker 5: Virginia guy than you. But native of Hattiesburg, Mississippi.
- 29:31Speaker 4: I was there for about seven months and then I
- 29:33Speaker 4: didn't know it.
- 29:35Speaker 3: Everyone asked me because when I go down there, like
- 29:37Speaker 3: Danny Nealing, you know, Dan's like, what do you want
- 29:39Speaker 3: on your name plate?
- 29:40Speaker 4: And I was like, just put your dad last time,
- 29:41Speaker 4: you know.
- 29:42Speaker 3: But they always ask hometown, and I want to say Morgantown,
- 29:46Speaker 3: but I wasn't born there, and everyone's like, boy, you're
- 29:48Speaker 3: just playing play Kate, and I was like, well, just
- 29:50Speaker 3: put where I was born, even though I was born.
- 29:52Speaker 3: And literally seven months later we moved into Mexico and
- 29:55Speaker 3: he was there for a year.
- 29:56Speaker 4: So again, but.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Many different places. If you live trick, that would be
- 30:01Speaker 1: a good You need to you need to think about
- 30:03Speaker 1: that one you just gave us Hattiesburg. Your dad was
- 30:05Speaker 1: at Starkville, Your dad was at Auburn, your dad was
- 30:09Speaker 1: at Tallahassee, West Virginia. I mean, have you ever counted
- 30:13Speaker 1: that your I did.
- 30:15Speaker 3: I had a stat a line there for a little bit,
- 30:17Speaker 3: but then I lost count. You know, I always tell her,
- 30:20Speaker 3: I tell everybody. I went to three different high schools.
- 30:22Speaker 3: And this is before social media and phone so.
- 30:24Speaker 4: Like when you moved like it was by like I'm
- 30:27Speaker 4: not seeing you again.
- 30:29Speaker 1: You know.
- 30:30Speaker 3: That's why when all that stuff came out, I was like, oh,
- 30:31Speaker 3: I can reconnect with guys.
- 30:32Speaker 4: I haven't talked to him forever.
- 30:34Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, I went to three different high schools,
- 30:37Speaker 3: you know, middle school we.
- 30:39Speaker 4: Were in Auburn.
- 30:40Speaker 3: And then the terry got let go and so Dad
- 30:42Speaker 3: was trying to find a job and you know, the
- 30:46Speaker 3: Michigan State Nick Saban offered him the d line job
- 30:49Speaker 3: in Michigan State and Dad is coach office line his
- 30:51Speaker 3: entire career, and uh, Dad was like man and there
- 30:55Speaker 3: was a possibility of Virginia University of Virginia, the office
- 30:57Speaker 3: line job opening up if the off line coach is
- 30:59Speaker 3: going retire, and so there's a couple of things, some
- 31:01Speaker 3: irons and the fire there and coach Saban wanted Dad
- 31:04Speaker 3: to be the d line coach and that's like, I
- 31:05Speaker 3: don't want to transition at this point in time in
- 31:08Speaker 3: my career. And so the he turned that down, and
- 31:11Speaker 3: then the Virginia thing fell through, so we were stuck.
- 31:13Speaker 3: And uh so then he ended up his best friend
- 31:15Speaker 3: in the world is Ikemores down in lovel West Virginia,
- 31:18Speaker 3: and uh Ike said, you come up here, we'll we'll
- 31:21Speaker 3: ride horses for a year and then you'll get back
- 31:23Speaker 3: into it. Well he we we moved to Glembale. We
- 31:26Speaker 3: move into one of Ike's barnes. Uh that's a life
- 31:28Speaker 3: of turn barns. He had a house, a lickerate farm.
- 31:30Speaker 3: We lived out there, and so we moved to We
- 31:33Speaker 3: go from Alvern, Alabama to Glembal, West Virginia and uh
- 31:36Speaker 3: and so this is really when you're like you're going
- 31:38Speaker 3: through the roller coaster or the coaching profession. So this
- 31:40Speaker 3: is my freshman year of high school and the global
- 31:43Speaker 3: State job just happened to come open then, so then
- 31:46Speaker 3: they talked Dad into taking it.
- 31:47Speaker 4: So he said, hey, coach there glimbal and we had
- 31:49Speaker 4: a blast.
- 31:50Speaker 3: We loved it, you know, the D two ball was
- 31:52Speaker 3: a great experience and all that kind of stuff as
- 31:53Speaker 3: a kid growing up. And then a year later, coach
- 31:57Speaker 3: Saban gets the LSU job and says, all right, I'm
- 31:59Speaker 3: gonna try to hire again, and he hires an officer
- 32:02Speaker 3: offs line coaching job. So we left Glenville went to LSU.
- 32:04Speaker 3: So that's my sophomore year, my second high school. We're
- 32:07Speaker 3: in Baton Rouge and everything's good, and you know, we're
- 32:11Speaker 3: there that first season LSU.
- 32:12Speaker 4: And then coach Rod gets this job.
- 32:15Speaker 3: And the one consistent in our as a as a
- 32:17Speaker 3: tricker family growing up, even though we moved some many times,
- 32:19Speaker 3: was West Virginia.
- 32:20Speaker 4: Though.
- 32:20Speaker 3: That's why I say, like where we want to claim
- 32:22Speaker 3: it is like my grandma and my grandparents all lived
- 32:25Speaker 3: in Preston County.
- 32:26Speaker 4: My dad was born in Mine General.
- 32:28Speaker 3: We vacationed in West Virginia every year, no remember we lived,
- 32:32Speaker 3: we'd go to Glenville and we'd stay with hiking them
- 32:34Speaker 3: Uncle I can Antsy. We'd stay with them for a week,
- 32:37Speaker 3: and then we'd drive up to Preston County and we'd
- 32:39Speaker 3: stay with Grandma for a week, and then we would
- 32:41Speaker 3: drive all the way back down to whether it was
- 32:42Speaker 3: Starkville or or wherever. You know, we'd get a little
- 32:46Speaker 3: bit of time at the beach, you know. You know,
- 32:48Speaker 3: we had to beg dad to do that because he'd
- 32:50Speaker 3: rather be in West Virginia than the beach. So West
- 32:51Speaker 3: Virginia was always the one constant in our family growing
- 32:55Speaker 3: up from you know, from birth to now. So when
- 32:58Speaker 3: this opportunity came up to with Coach Rodriguez, who were like, yeah,
- 33:01Speaker 3: let's go do it, you know, and so Third High
- 33:03Speaker 3: School come up here and then Dak coach was alsigned
- 33:06Speaker 3: for Ridge and the rest is history.
- 33:07Speaker 4: But that was why I always say West Virginia is.
- 33:09Speaker 3: Our home is because it really is like as transient
- 33:12Speaker 3: as our family has been, all roads led back to
- 33:15Speaker 3: this state, and then it ended up being where I
- 33:18Speaker 3: got my education high school wise, and graduated from Morganton
- 33:22Speaker 3: High and then you know, graduated from West Virginia and
- 33:24Speaker 3: my wife went to school here, you know, and what
- 33:26Speaker 3: it did for our families, so it's been the most
- 33:28Speaker 3: constant thing place and university and our family.
- 33:34Speaker 5: So so you spent you spent your life in the
- 33:36Speaker 5: transfer portal. Essentially, that's what you did. But it got
- 33:42Speaker 5: them to Tony tell Forregale or get in touch with
- 33:44Speaker 5: for Gale or uh to Toro and to change that
- 33:48Speaker 5: out of a native of Hattiesburg, Mississippi, you're a West Virginia, Yeah,
- 33:51Speaker 5: come on.
- 33:52Speaker 4: Yeah, I could.
- 33:52Speaker 3: I just you know, it's one of those things that
- 33:54Speaker 3: you don't want to get into all the the you know,
- 33:57Speaker 3: I saw what happened to Georgia O'Leary when he lied
- 33:59Speaker 3: on his rest.
- 34:02Speaker 4: Any possibility of that happening.
- 34:04Speaker 1: I just laid it down there straight. When you resumed
- 34:09Speaker 1: your relationship with Rich as you rejoin this staff here,
- 34:14Speaker 1: and you join the staff this offseason, so you walk in,
- 34:17Speaker 1: you sit down at some point and that your first
- 34:20Speaker 1: staff meeting, and Rich clears his throat and goes, all right,
- 34:25Speaker 1: this is what my offense is. When he explained what
- 34:29Speaker 1: he is doing in his nowadays football, how much different
- 34:34Speaker 1: is it or what variations have changed since his last
- 34:38Speaker 1: run here.
- 34:40Speaker 4: That's the one thing I'll credit coach for.
- 34:41Speaker 3: And so I always paid attention from Afar like even
- 34:44Speaker 3: when I was a coordinator, and I've been according for
- 34:48Speaker 3: ten years at different spots. But like I remember when
- 34:50Speaker 3: I went to Georgia State, you know, you know, I
- 34:53Speaker 3: inherited so me when I was hired at at Sanford,
- 34:56Speaker 3: I was hired as when I was a G at
- 34:58Speaker 3: Florida State. I got my first job at Sanford to
- 35:01Speaker 3: coach in cybers Huters tied ends for thirty thousand dollars
- 35:03Speaker 3: and which I thought I was a richest man. I
- 35:06Speaker 3: was like, man, finally at twenty six years old, I
- 35:08Speaker 3: get my first job, and I finally got a bank
- 35:09Speaker 3: account and I getting paid something because GA's you just
- 35:12Speaker 3: had scholarships at GA for four years. So there was
- 35:16Speaker 3: another GA that just got hired at the same time
- 35:18Speaker 3: to be the coordinate at that point in a point
- 35:20Speaker 3: time named Rhet Lashley who's now the head coach at SMU.
- 35:23Speaker 3: Me rest one of my best friends in the business
- 35:24Speaker 3: care and justice really now working with Rhett, who you know,
- 35:28Speaker 3: I got those two hooked up. But so Rhet and
- 35:31Speaker 3: I were there together and Htt ran the gust mouns
- 35:33Speaker 3: On offense. So when Rhett left to go with GUS,
- 35:36Speaker 3: I took I got coach Sullivan's came to me and say, hey,
- 35:38Speaker 3: I want you to coordinate this because no one else
- 35:39Speaker 3: is running this, and I want you to do this
- 35:42Speaker 3: because no there's no one else, so which I don't know.
- 35:45Speaker 3: I was like, great, I mean, so I'm the only
- 35:47Speaker 3: guy I left to Awesome. So I took over and
- 35:49Speaker 3: I started adding pieces of what we did under Coach.
- 35:52Speaker 4: Rodriguez West Virginia.
- 35:53Speaker 3: Then I started adding some of the stuff we did
- 35:55Speaker 3: at Florida State and some of the stuff that we
- 35:56Speaker 3: did at Alabama and started making my own. But there's
- 35:59Speaker 3: some different stuff elements, backfield sets and that kind of
- 36:02Speaker 3: stuff that I was like, man, it's kind of giving
- 36:04Speaker 3: it away of what we're doing from a run game standpoint.
- 36:08Speaker 3: So when I actually want I went to u.
- 36:11Speaker 4: FAU.
- 36:12Speaker 3: I started watching Arizona tape where Coach Roydrigez was out
- 36:14Speaker 3: of Arizona with coach Calvin Gee at that point in time,
- 36:16Speaker 3: and on coach Ry Smith and all those guys, and
- 36:19Speaker 3: they had a really they were running the same West
- 36:21Speaker 3: Virginia run game, but they kept the backfield set was
- 36:24Speaker 3: they had some certain kind of footwork and so I
- 36:26Speaker 3: always paid attention. So then I took that and adopted
- 36:28Speaker 3: into it, even from Afar, Like I never even talked
- 36:30Speaker 3: to Calvin. I just watched the tape and added it.
- 36:32Speaker 3: So I've always been paying attention to what coach Rod did.
- 36:35Speaker 3: So long story short, I get back here, you know,
- 36:38Speaker 3: and even when I was at Coastal. Before I get here,
- 36:41Speaker 3: you know, we compete against Rich twice. You know, twenty
- 36:43Speaker 3: twenty three we played him, twenty twenty four, we played
- 36:45Speaker 3: them to a zero.
- 36:48Speaker 4: So slow that in there. But God, I got Zach.
- 36:50Speaker 4: I got Zach, and so Zach.
- 36:52Speaker 3: I went Zach one time, and so I always messed
- 36:53Speaker 3: with Zach about that, and Zach gets flustered and keeps
- 36:56Speaker 3: on out all these stats.
- 36:56Speaker 4: I'm like, I know you're good. You went to Oklong
- 36:58Speaker 4: with all goods. So I drew my team. I finally,
- 37:00Speaker 4: That's why the other things. I am so glad that
- 37:02Speaker 4: guy's on team.
- 37:02Speaker 3: He was one of the hardest guys I ever One
- 37:04Speaker 3: of the hardest preps I've ever had have was prepared.
- 37:06Speaker 4: For Zach Galley's defense. And that's not even a trying
- 37:10Speaker 4: to you know, prop them up. It's real talk. He
- 37:12Speaker 4: is very very good at what he does.
- 37:14Speaker 3: But you know, I obviously watched them when they were doing,
- 37:17Speaker 3: you know, because Dad was there and all that stuff.
- 37:19Speaker 4: And he coach, right, has adapted.
- 37:21Speaker 3: You talked about the great coaches over time and the
- 37:23Speaker 3: offensive lines. He's adapted over time, you know, and to
- 37:27Speaker 3: also fit what his personnel can do. You know, Like
- 37:30Speaker 3: there's one year Arizona, they were slinging the crap all
- 37:33Speaker 3: of the football, you know. So you know, he's always adapted.
- 37:37Speaker 3: The tempo piece, like we were up tempo back then,
- 37:41Speaker 3: but over the last three years the tempo has gone
- 37:44Speaker 3: exponentially higher about that, like I mean exponentially higher.
- 37:47Speaker 4: And he and you know, he's.
- 37:49Speaker 3: Really you know, whatever the rules allow you to do.
- 37:52Speaker 3: He thinks it's a competitive avantage. So now we actually
- 37:54Speaker 3: we train our guys in certain ways to make sure
- 37:57Speaker 3: we go as fast as humanly.
- 37:59Speaker 4: Possible, you know.
- 37:59Speaker 3: So and then so like over time, like that's where
- 38:04Speaker 3: I think, Yes, play calls some are the same, some
- 38:07Speaker 3: are not. Uh, the philosophy is the same as far
- 38:11Speaker 3: as how we play. But also and also like you
- 38:15Speaker 3: talk Jed draining be goes Jed. You know, Jet's historian,
- 38:18Speaker 3: brilliant football mind. He'll tell he's a savant.
- 38:21Speaker 4: He'll tell you like the moment the first time I
- 38:23Speaker 4: saw Jed.
- 38:23Speaker 3: When I came back, we sat down at lunch and
- 38:25Speaker 3: he gave me the whole how this often started, the meeting,
- 38:29Speaker 3: the whole thing, and a lot of it still carries
- 38:32Speaker 3: over this time. So coach has done a great job
- 38:34Speaker 3: of adapting and and you know, and fine tuning and adjusting,
- 38:38Speaker 3: but it's still the same core of where he has
- 38:40Speaker 3: because at Globale State, they you know, what was it,
- 38:42Speaker 3: Chris George had one hundred and forty four catches in
- 38:43Speaker 3: a year and twenty two hundred yards in a year,
- 38:45Speaker 3: and it was.
- 38:46Speaker 1: Well, think about this he had. He has coached the
- 38:49Speaker 1: all time leading receiver in the history of college football,
- 38:52Speaker 1: and he has coached the all time leading ground gainer
- 38:55Speaker 1: at quarterback in college football history. So could you be
- 38:57Speaker 1: could you be more different than those two?
- 38:59Speaker 4: Exactly?
- 39:00Speaker 3: So that's what's really neat to be a part of
- 39:01Speaker 3: this and just and also how he is able to
- 39:04Speaker 3: make it simple for our guys. We won't make it
- 39:07Speaker 3: hard for them easy for us. And to be able
- 39:09Speaker 3: to do that, that's what I've been I love because
- 39:11Speaker 3: as a coordinator, you're doing it on your own. You're
- 39:13Speaker 3: kind of you got your staff, you got you guys,
- 39:15Speaker 3: give you input, but your just your identity. And to
- 39:18Speaker 3: be able to get up here and to take a
- 39:19Speaker 3: step back and be able to just be there for
- 39:21Speaker 3: coach and be a part of this and learn this
- 39:23Speaker 3: and learn the ins and outs and your answers to this,
- 39:26Speaker 3: it's been really cool. And and but yes, coach is like,
- 39:30Speaker 3: it's amazing how he's adapted over time. But even think
- 39:33Speaker 3: about when we were here Western in the first round.
- 39:35Speaker 3: He did it during his tenure here, like it was,
- 39:37Speaker 3: you know, a little bit we had some under center
- 39:39Speaker 3: there in two thousand and one, two thousand and two,
- 39:41Speaker 3: you know, kind of modified it from the kneel and
- 39:44Speaker 3: area to his era and try to take advantage of
- 39:46Speaker 3: what the guys did. And then as it went with
- 39:48Speaker 3: the Rashis and the Pats, then a little bit more gun,
- 39:51Speaker 3: a little bit more quarterback run. So coach is going
- 39:54Speaker 3: to do whatever, like whatever tools we have, he's going
- 39:56Speaker 3: to maximize those tools.
- 39:57Speaker 2: All right, Explain, let's get in the nitty gritty offensively,
- 40:01Speaker 2: how does that work? Give us give us a little
- 40:03Speaker 2: bit during the week on the meetings and how the
- 40:04Speaker 2: game plan comes together, and then on game day, your
- 40:07Speaker 2: responsibilities rich calling plays. You're going super fast? How does
- 40:12Speaker 2: that change how you work? Give us a sure walk
- 40:16Speaker 2: on all that stuff?
- 40:17Speaker 3: So we obviously we haven't done it yet, all right,
- 40:19Speaker 3: this season, but this upcoming season. You know, as a
- 40:23Speaker 3: former play caller and I've done for ten years, I
- 40:25Speaker 3: know how how comforting it is and also how you
- 40:29Speaker 3: know you feel like you're on island if you don't
- 40:31Speaker 3: have it is having that guy you can lean on.
- 40:34Speaker 4: It's like, Hey, what's going on? What do I need
- 40:36Speaker 4: to get to? What's coming next?
- 40:37Speaker 3: What's something that's in the game, Like you're focused on
- 40:40Speaker 3: what's happening?
- 40:41Speaker 4: What just happened?
- 40:43Speaker 3: What's it's a chess game? Like what's the next piece? Well,
- 40:45Speaker 3: you wan to do next play? The next two plays?
- 40:47Speaker 3: Where do you want to get to? Whatever your game
- 40:49Speaker 3: plan for? What are they doing differently that we weren't expecting?
- 40:52Speaker 3: How do we need to adjust to it? You can
- 40:54Speaker 3: handle all that on your own. That's why I actually
- 40:56Speaker 3: liked when there wasn't any video tablets because then the
- 40:59Speaker 3: true play and true coaches could actually do it and
- 41:02Speaker 3: not like you know, to me, if you can see it,
- 41:04Speaker 3: that was a competitive advantage to me.
- 41:06Speaker 4: That was the real play callers.
- 41:07Speaker 3: Now everyone's got iPads can see it, which is a
- 41:09Speaker 3: little bit of.
- 41:10Speaker 4: A cheat code. But that's another story.
- 41:12Speaker 3: But so I know how it is to have that
- 41:16Speaker 3: guy and then to not have that guy. And when
- 41:17Speaker 3: you have that person that you can lean on, Hey,
- 41:19Speaker 3: what do we need to get to? What do we
- 41:21Speaker 3: gotta here? Are good and awesome? I'll come to that.
- 41:23Speaker 4: I'll come to that all right, good.
- 41:24Speaker 3: You know, or they can tell if you got to check,
- 41:26Speaker 3: you got it, stay whatever it may be. Because when
- 41:29Speaker 3: you're on the field, especially, you can't see the same
- 41:31Speaker 3: as you can can.
- 41:32Speaker 1: In the box.
- 41:33Speaker 3: So I'll be in the box. Coach calls every play. Obviously,
- 41:37Speaker 3: game playing wise, it'll be a collaborative effort of our
- 41:40Speaker 3: entire staff. We'll get our thoughts together, we'll present to
- 41:42Speaker 3: coach again, Coach will give Hish his thought and obviously
- 41:44Speaker 3: we're going to run with everything that coach wants to do,
- 41:46Speaker 3: and Coach will call every play. But I'll be the
- 41:48Speaker 3: guy upstairs saying, OK, you got this, coach, or as
- 41:52Speaker 3: we're going, you know, hey, coach, you got this. Come
- 41:54Speaker 3: back to this, Hey, coach, they're hitting this, come with this,
- 41:56Speaker 3: or if there's a check with me. I'll tell them
- 41:57Speaker 3: exactly what I'm seeing that so that'll be the relationship.
- 42:01Speaker 3: I'll be his eyes in the sky as well.
- 42:03Speaker 5: Be When we had Coach rod On a couple weeks ago,
- 42:06Speaker 5: you asked about quarterbacks and he said he wanted three
- 42:08Speaker 5: or four guys that could play. So where's your quarterback
- 42:12Speaker 5: situation coming out of spring? Do you have a definitive one,
- 42:14Speaker 5: two and three? Will more than one quarterback play?
- 42:19Speaker 4: Tell us where that is now?
- 42:20Speaker 3: I think, like Coach said, I think we do have
- 42:23Speaker 3: a quarterback room that I think. Here's what I would do,
- 42:25Speaker 3: just to describe the quarbackroom. Because everyone's you know coach,
- 42:28Speaker 3: I also say, well, I think I have four quarterback coaches
- 42:30Speaker 3: between him, you know, Coach Rhett, Coach Pat, myself, And
- 42:34Speaker 3: I said, I try to let those guys handle the
- 42:36Speaker 3: quarterbacks and then if anything, I'll give Coach Rhett and
- 42:40Speaker 3: then Coach Pass some things I might see and then
- 42:42Speaker 3: I'm able to sit in all the other rooms. But
- 42:45Speaker 3: here's what I would say if I was describing our
- 42:49Speaker 3: quarterback room is I would say, like there, I'm excited
- 42:52Speaker 3: about what this room could be and what's going for
- 42:55Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of promise in that room.
- 42:57Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of promise. I think there's
- 42:58Speaker 3: a lot of promise of what because no one's done
- 43:01Speaker 3: it yet, you know, I mean, no one's done it
- 43:03Speaker 3: on you know, Nico's had that, you know, the progressive
- 43:06Speaker 3: you know old traditional you know, red shirt progression reel.
- 43:09Speaker 4: And now he's competing.
- 43:10Speaker 3: You know, you got Jalen who's actually had it, you know,
- 43:12Speaker 3: starting experience, and you know I had gone to text
- 43:14Speaker 3: A and m is now competing in this style office.
- 43:16Speaker 3: This is a different style of offense that he's played
- 43:18Speaker 3: in yet. You know, Max has come in from a
- 43:22Speaker 3: North Carolina UNC Charlotte. Before that, he was at Florida,
- 43:25Speaker 3: got some early experience as a freshman in Florida and
- 43:27Speaker 3: then played played really well, actually was playing really good
- 43:30Speaker 3: football at Charlotte till he got hurt, you know. And
- 43:32Speaker 3: so he brings a you know, really talented thrower, gotta
- 43:37Speaker 3: be more consistent. And then you got two freshmen between
- 43:40Speaker 3: Khalil and Scotty Fox, I think are really two i
- 43:43Speaker 3: mean really interesting talents that are going to be really Khalil,
- 43:46Speaker 3: we haven'ten able to see throw yet because of his shoulder,
- 43:48Speaker 3: but he'll be back full speed this summer. And Scottie
- 43:50Speaker 3: Fox I think has a great future here as well.
- 43:52Speaker 3: So there's a lot of promise in that room. The
- 43:54Speaker 3: biggest thing i'd say, you know, we haven't whoever's the
- 43:57Speaker 3: most consistent will be the guy. You don't know that
- 44:00Speaker 3: yet because you still got to get more, you know.
- 44:03Speaker 3: I think we got to go through a fall camp,
- 44:04Speaker 3: summer and fall camp with those guys. Consistency will be
- 44:07Speaker 3: what we need out of that room, you know, And
- 44:08Speaker 3: that's what Coach Rodriguez and Coach Rhett and Coach Patter
- 44:11Speaker 3: go and get those guys ready over summer with. But
- 44:14Speaker 3: don't know that answer yet, but I feel really good
- 44:16Speaker 3: about that room.
- 44:17Speaker 4: That's why Coach has.
- 44:18Speaker 3: Been saying that everything that's in about how much promise
- 44:20Speaker 3: that room has had. And I'm telling you like it's
- 44:23Speaker 3: it's a it's one of those rooms that we actually
- 44:27Speaker 3: through this last you know, transfer requirement, you know, a
- 44:30Speaker 3: talent requirement phase that we've had last spring portal, we
- 44:32Speaker 3: didn't feel like we need ad anybody because we feel
- 44:34Speaker 3: like that room's.
- 44:35Speaker 4: Got a lot of tools in there.
- 44:36Speaker 3: And then who surfaces out it because of the competition.
- 44:39Speaker 3: That's what coach wants. He wants ultra competition, uh, in
- 44:42Speaker 3: every room. And so I'm really interested this summer see
- 44:45Speaker 3: how the guys grow in this offense, because in spring
- 44:47Speaker 3: you can learn the offense pretty quickly, but you don't
- 44:50Speaker 3: master the offense in the spring. Right now, you've got
- 44:53Speaker 3: memorize and you got to learn it and understand it,
- 44:55Speaker 3: and then the next phase is mastering it. This summer
- 44:58Speaker 3: will be a big step in the mastering face for
- 45:01Speaker 3: those guys. And then over summer, once you get all
- 45:03Speaker 3: those reps as far as them throwing routes on air
- 45:05Speaker 3: and and and getting our our a lot of time
- 45:07Speaker 3: over the summer meeting, when we get to fall camp,
- 45:11Speaker 3: who's mastering it the most consistently?
- 45:13Speaker 4: And that's what we got.
- 45:14Speaker 3: And again, you know, put them in those situations so
- 45:17Speaker 3: we know game one, who gives us the best chance
- 45:19Speaker 3: to win?
- 45:19Speaker 2: All right, flip back over defensively, he said something there
- 45:21Speaker 2: a minute to go about Zach and how difficult he
- 45:23Speaker 2: was to prepare for.
- 45:24Speaker 4: Why you don't know what you're getting.
- 45:28Speaker 3: So for example, when I played Zach, you know, it
- 45:31Speaker 3: was the it was the opening game of the season,
- 45:33Speaker 3: which was the worst to do for it, Like, you
- 45:35Speaker 3: don't want to go against a coordinator your opening game
- 45:38Speaker 3: when you don't really know what kind of team you have,
- 45:40Speaker 3: and uh, you don't know what you're going to get.
- 45:43Speaker 3: And he comes from the Brent Venables tree of and
- 45:45Speaker 3: and Venables as a coordinator is like every game all
- 45:49Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, you prepare for something, then
- 45:51Speaker 3: you first series, you're like, man, they're playing this' you know,
- 45:55Speaker 3: hey they were four down the previous game cut you know,
- 45:58Speaker 3: basing out of corps and three. Then all of a
- 45:59Speaker 3: sudden this game, Hey they're odd stack three down the
- 46:02Speaker 3: entire time, or they're three safety this game, or you know,
- 46:05Speaker 3: all all of a sudden, they're gonna go five you know,
- 46:08Speaker 3: bare front cover one majority of the game and bringing
- 46:10Speaker 3: simular press.
- 46:10Speaker 4: Or whatever it may be.
- 46:12Speaker 3: So he's got a roll of decks and Coach Rod
- 46:15Speaker 3: always messes with him like, hey, you got one thousand
- 46:17Speaker 3: blitz is you're gonna learn for recruits, you know when
- 46:19Speaker 3: you come on visit because Zack's got so much in it.
- 46:22Speaker 4: So you you don't know what you're getting till a
- 46:24Speaker 4: game day.
- 46:25Speaker 3: And so like when we played them, you know it
- 46:26Speaker 3: was a you know, we were expecting I had a
- 46:29Speaker 3: game plan for like that. You just gotta run good
- 46:31Speaker 3: place and so whatever you find out. So after the
- 46:34Speaker 3: first two series, I knew, oh, this is his game plan.
- 46:36Speaker 4: So then we got to get to this.
- 46:38Speaker 3: So you gotta be prepared for it all what you
- 46:40Speaker 3: could look like, it could look like. You know, we
- 46:42Speaker 3: were three three stacked under Coach Rode. I mean we
- 46:43Speaker 3: could do three three stack. We go four down. We
- 46:45Speaker 3: can go three down with a pass rusher. We can
- 46:48Speaker 3: do any defense there is, and they can and every
- 46:51Speaker 3: blitz known a man, zero fire zone, whatever. So I
- 46:56Speaker 3: be and coach picknew with this line that we don't.
- 46:59Speaker 3: Coach Ryle was like, hey, we need to evaluate guys
- 47:02Speaker 3: at spring and me and Jack raw is like, well,
- 47:04Speaker 3: can you tell Zack, because like we can't evaluate the
- 47:06Speaker 3: offensive line because we're seeing a different defense every day
- 47:09Speaker 3: and we can't get We get this blocked one day,
- 47:11Speaker 3: then we turn around we see something new, so we
- 47:13Speaker 3: can't get any you know. So but it's I honestly
- 47:17Speaker 3: believe it's great for us because now whatever we show
- 47:20Speaker 3: up on game day with as fast as we go,
- 47:23Speaker 3: you know, it defines, it refines your rules and it,
- 47:27Speaker 3: and our guys are gonna be comfortable on game day
- 47:29Speaker 3: because they've seen it all offensively from our defense. So
- 47:34Speaker 3: there's not gonna be anything that we're gonna be like, Oh,
- 47:35Speaker 3: they came out of this, what do we do?
- 47:37Speaker 2: You know?
- 47:37Speaker 4: So our guys will have comfort in that.
- 47:40Speaker 1: Let's dive deeper into rich morphine, into plane faster. Okay,
- 47:47Speaker 1: walk us through philosophy on that. How much of that
- 47:51Speaker 1: is fatigue that you're trying to cause? How much of
- 47:54Speaker 1: that is misalignment that you're trying to cause? Because if
- 47:58Speaker 1: my head's right, like, yeah, you're gonna get more and
- 48:01Speaker 1: more tired. Yeah, you're gonna gas. You're gonna have a
- 48:03Speaker 1: couple of plays that just do Okay, that's two, that's three,
- 48:07Speaker 1: that's two, that's three. This thing's going nowhere and all
- 48:10Speaker 1: of us such pam. It's these explosive plays, oftentimes the
- 48:14Speaker 1: result of probably an ma where someone just didn't get
- 48:17Speaker 1: in their right place at the right time and it
- 48:19Speaker 1: opens up a gaping hole. Is that what it is?
- 48:21Speaker 3: Yeah, Coach alludes to like the tempo allows us to
- 48:25Speaker 3: you know, you know, fatigue makes cowards of us.
- 48:27Speaker 4: All Right, it doesn't matter who you are.
- 48:29Speaker 3: Eventually, when you get tired, you're not your same self,
- 48:32Speaker 3: and we want that to be our advantage. And then
- 48:35Speaker 3: also when that happens, you know, whether it's a mental
- 48:38Speaker 3: error or whether it's a physical error where you just
- 48:41Speaker 3: don't do what you're supposed to do defensively and you
- 48:43Speaker 3: give up a gap or your eyes are looking at
- 48:46Speaker 3: the wrong place in the back end and you let
- 48:48Speaker 3: go of a seam or an outside guy. That's when
- 48:51Speaker 3: we have to capitalize offensively. That's what we're built to do.
- 48:53Speaker 3: And so that's what we want to use the tempo
- 48:55Speaker 3: in our advantage. And you know, the coach always mentions
- 48:59Speaker 3: like and it's kind of like a boxing match where
- 49:02Speaker 3: you know, early on, gloves are up right, but then eventually,
- 49:06Speaker 3: as you get tired, those gloves keep come down, keep
- 49:08Speaker 3: coming gon, keep coming down, keep coming down, and then
- 49:10Speaker 3: eventually that's.
- 49:10Speaker 4: When the knockout happens. Right.
- 49:12Speaker 3: So that's our mentality, and that's almost like an old
- 49:16Speaker 3: you know sometimes people talk about old school mentality, like, hey,
- 49:19Speaker 3: you just do this, do this, and you keep pounding
- 49:21Speaker 3: and keep outing it.
- 49:22Speaker 4: Whatever our game plan is.
- 49:23Speaker 3: That's our mentality with the tempo and to keep in
- 49:25Speaker 3: the how we play and how we block and how
- 49:28Speaker 3: physical we are. That's how we're going to be our
- 49:30Speaker 3: competitive advantage.
- 49:31Speaker 4: But it's a.
- 49:34Speaker 3: Teams don't train that way all the time. They're not
- 49:37Speaker 3: used to it. Usually in game you settle into a
- 49:39Speaker 3: team's tempo. But when you train that way all the
- 49:43Speaker 3: time and you play, and not only the tempo, but
- 49:45Speaker 3: the physicality piece, I think that's what gets lost in
- 49:48Speaker 3: coaches identity of who we are as an offense. You know, yes,
- 49:51Speaker 3: there are fast teams out there, there's other teams that
- 49:53Speaker 3: play tempo, but are they as physical as us?
- 49:58Speaker 4: Snap in, snap out?
- 49:59Speaker 3: Are they Because the way we block and with our
- 50:01Speaker 3: rules and the way we do things, our physicality and
- 50:05Speaker 3: in my opinion is different. We allow we greenlight a
- 50:08Speaker 3: lot more physicality than a lot of other offenses in
- 50:12Speaker 3: my opinion, with how we do things, and that along
- 50:16Speaker 3: with the tempo, I think compliments it and what makes
- 50:19Speaker 3: us different. So the physicality piece, and it could be
- 50:22Speaker 3: even pass pro whatever.
- 50:23Speaker 4: It may be.
- 50:24Speaker 3: How we attack guys and how we get how we
- 50:26Speaker 3: finish through the whistle, how we just continue go talk
- 50:29Speaker 3: about if they can't catch you, that's the most defeating
- 50:32Speaker 3: feeling in the world.
- 50:33Speaker 4: You know, if they can't catch you.
- 50:35Speaker 3: And maybe I'm a four or five guy and the
- 50:38Speaker 3: other guy's four to four, but when he gets tired,
- 50:39Speaker 3: he becomes a four to seven. And I'm still gonna
- 50:42Speaker 3: that they can't catch you.
- 50:43Speaker 4: So yeah, that's our philosophy.
- 50:44Speaker 1: Think about the o Lyne guys, and this is just
- 50:47Speaker 1: a couple of guys that he had the last time here, right,
- 50:50Speaker 1: So you're talking about Dan Moses, who would just he
- 50:52Speaker 1: would fight just to fight, Like a good day for
- 50:55Speaker 1: him is let's go get in a fight. And Jeremy
- 50:57Speaker 1: Sheffey same thing. He would love to just hitch you
- 50:59Speaker 1: in face repeatedly, right, stand check right. He was just
- 51:03Speaker 1: like he was just a brawler. So you had all
- 51:06Speaker 1: these brawlers, and that's where this thing has to get
- 51:11Speaker 1: back to where you're just literally physically abusing people, continuing
- 51:16Speaker 1: every snap, every snap, every snap, and then it pops
- 51:19Speaker 1: and off your grow great.
- 51:21Speaker 4: And that's and that's the DNA of who we've always been.
- 51:25Speaker 3: And that's why I really do believe with because again,
- 51:29Speaker 3: like we just acquired a lot of guys, right, and
- 51:32Speaker 3: that's going and we feel like these guys fit our
- 51:34Speaker 3: ability to do that, whether it's in the office of
- 51:36Speaker 3: line room, tied end room, running back room, receive room.
- 51:40Speaker 4: Same thing. Like you know, one thing with recruiting.
- 51:43Speaker 3: Now with like we're we're prior towards prioritizing speed, especially
- 51:47Speaker 3: at the high school level, over everything right now, because
- 51:50Speaker 3: we want to be faster, Like like that's one thing
- 51:53Speaker 3: where we have got to absolutely upgrade our roster on
- 51:55Speaker 3: and so. And then with the office line pieces, like
- 51:58Speaker 3: are they athletic enough to be explosive at the point
- 52:01Speaker 3: of attack? So if we get them stronger and they
- 52:04Speaker 3: have those explosive twitches, that explosive twitch to them, then
- 52:08Speaker 3: then as they get stronger and they get bigger. Now
- 52:10Speaker 3: we're absolutely just doing that and then the the DNA
- 52:15Speaker 3: of who they are, if we can acquire those guys,
- 52:17Speaker 3: that's exactly what we're looking for. But and all honestly,
- 52:19Speaker 3: as we all know, like today's world is different, Like
- 52:21Speaker 3: there's not a lot of guys playing outside all the time,
- 52:24Speaker 3: you know, playing backyard football and tackle football at.
- 52:27Speaker 4: Recess and all that kind of stuff, so you don't
- 52:30Speaker 4: see it.
- 52:30Speaker 3: So you've got to provide an environment where that those
- 52:34Speaker 3: traits come out and uh, and I think that's we
- 52:38Speaker 3: do a great job of that. So we're going to
- 52:41Speaker 3: have that mentality one way or the other. We're going
- 52:44Speaker 3: to make sure the guys that we bring in are understanding,
- 52:46Speaker 3: like that's how we're going to play, and they're gonna
- 52:48Speaker 3: want that. And that's why we encourage all of our
- 52:50Speaker 3: guys to come watch us. All the recruits, whether whoever
- 52:53Speaker 3: they may be, come watch this practice because we want
- 52:56Speaker 3: you to see, like this is how we live in
- 52:58Speaker 3: between the whistles and in between that to that period
- 53:00Speaker 3: one to period twenty, and when that, when that price
- 53:04Speaker 3: is over, then we go back to being civilize human beings,
- 53:07Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But but when we're there,
- 53:10Speaker 3: we're going to practice and we're gonna play a certain
- 53:11Speaker 3: kind of way to develop that hard edch like everyone
- 53:14Speaker 3: talks about it, but we're going to live it. So
- 53:16Speaker 3: then it shows up on tape and you can see
- 53:18Speaker 3: how we play and see how we finished through the
- 53:19Speaker 3: whistle and see our receivers when the run breaks out
- 53:23Speaker 3: running downfield in our office lineman and running downfield when
- 53:26Speaker 3: there's only three defenders in the picture, but there's seven
- 53:28Speaker 3: offensive guys in the picture, you know, So that's where
- 53:31Speaker 3: we're going to be different.
- 53:33Speaker 2: Tempo works in practice too. Managers running, trainers running you
- 53:36Speaker 2: guys running the office too, sprent between MEAs.
- 53:39Speaker 3: The biggest thing, that's what was the biggest thing that
- 53:41Speaker 3: I learned under coach this past uh this past spring,
- 53:44Speaker 3: was it really like how to train the managers and
- 53:46Speaker 3: how to train like Danny Danny. Danny's slowing down a
- 53:49Speaker 3: little bit, honest. You know Danny Neeld, He's used to
- 53:52Speaker 3: he's not four to three. He well, he used to
- 53:54Speaker 3: be firing brimstone on those guys and all that. And
- 53:56Speaker 3: then even Ryan Neeland who's alos Ryan's like not my soft.
- 54:00Speaker 4: Now he's not on those guys as much.
- 54:02Speaker 3: And so but we those managers like they have they
- 54:04Speaker 3: have to have that same mentality are ball boys, and
- 54:06Speaker 3: there's a there's like there's a role, there's a job,
- 54:09Speaker 3: there's a problem. So for us to be again, I
- 54:11Speaker 3: could talk about how we practice so it translates to
- 54:14Speaker 3: the game and we simulate it. We have people stepping
- 54:17Speaker 3: over the ball if the ball goes out of bounds
- 54:18Speaker 3: on our side, like we're trying to simulate it so
- 54:21Speaker 3: you know, it's as realistic as it can be. And
- 54:23Speaker 3: our guys are practicing in that enviartment because if we're
- 54:25Speaker 3: gonna hold them to it, we gotta simulate it.
- 54:27Speaker 2: But I was being serious. I mean managers are running
- 54:29Speaker 2: and trainers are running. That wasn't That wasn't joke. They
- 54:32Speaker 2: are running.
- 54:32Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
- 54:34Speaker 5: You would acknowledge though, the risk of tempo, right, I
- 54:38Speaker 5: mean the risk.
- 54:39Speaker 2: In that uh well you better get first downs.
- 54:42Speaker 5: Yeah, right, Like Zach Zach is probably saying, I just
- 54:45Speaker 5: got my guys off the field. I'm trying to figure
- 54:47Speaker 5: out what we're doing, and you guys went three and
- 54:49Speaker 5: out and burned eighteen seconds.
- 54:51Speaker 1: You know there's a science that can absolutely be So
- 54:54Speaker 1: are you conscious of that?
- 54:55Speaker 3: I mean every tempo team is I'll say this, like
- 54:58Speaker 3: coach Rodriguez, like we're gonna keep going fast, but when
- 55:01Speaker 3: we got a lead, Like that's one thing he think
- 55:03Speaker 3: he did last year this past season, like if there's
- 55:05Speaker 3: something where we got to slow down, we will slow down.
- 55:06Speaker 3: They did last year and when they would have leads
- 55:09Speaker 3: or whatever it may be, but it you know, you
- 55:11Speaker 3: know we're going to go though. We're like we're going
- 55:14Speaker 3: to you know, we're going to be woe not sick
- 55:16Speaker 3: of them you know what I mean. So it's a uh,
- 55:18Speaker 3: but yes, that is a factor of it. But it
- 55:21Speaker 3: goes back to situational football. And that's one thing that
- 55:23Speaker 3: I do believe we do a really good job on
- 55:25Speaker 3: understanding situational football. What what is it going to take
- 55:28Speaker 3: for us to win this game or win this situation?
- 55:31Speaker 3: Two minute drill, four minute drill, you know, you know
- 55:34Speaker 3: the middle eight, any of those things. And so that's
- 55:36Speaker 3: something we address when we talk about constantly with our guys.
- 55:39Speaker 5: One other question, and so in terms of x's and
- 55:43Speaker 5: o's and players, think think of two pots, x's and
- 55:47Speaker 5: o's and players. And you can't say fifty percent each.
- 55:51Speaker 5: What percent do you need more of X's know's good
- 55:56Speaker 5: x's knows good players, and you can't say fifty.
- 56:00Speaker 2: I don't know that you can tell him how to answer.
- 56:01Speaker 2: You can ask the.
- 56:02Speaker 1: Question what you're trying to bait him for.
- 56:05Speaker 2: You want to answer your answer.
- 56:06Speaker 1: He's a guest. He's a guest, and you're trying to answer.
- 56:10Speaker 2: Wants to answer.
- 56:10Speaker 1: Job to ask questions, He'll give you the answer you're
- 56:14Speaker 1: asking question, He will give you an answer.
- 56:17Speaker 2: Hitting hopy coming through, client will answer how he wants
- 56:19Speaker 2: to answer, not how he was directed by you.
- 56:21Speaker 4: Okay, you can't say fifty percent, sir.
- 56:23Speaker 5: No players okay, ninety nine.
- 56:30Speaker 4: Players got players.
- 56:32Speaker 2: Guys make players most beautifully drawn up play doesn't work
- 56:35Speaker 2: to drop a snap.
- 56:36Speaker 1: Players players Jimmy's and jokes.
- 56:38Speaker 2: He answer the question, You had no problem with the question.
- 56:40Speaker 2: You have to give him the fifty You anticipated an
- 56:44Speaker 2: answer that wasn't even close to what he was going
- 56:45Speaker 2: to say.
- 56:46Speaker 1: We apologize for him.
- 56:48Speaker 4: It was an easy. It was an easy.
- 56:50Speaker 1: He's changed a lot since you became semi retired. This
- 56:53Speaker 1: area very We have.
- 56:54Speaker 4: To help players, players one players. So that's why the
- 56:57Speaker 4: evaluation piece.
- 56:58Speaker 5: And guys, right, you know, we watch I mean, we
- 57:04Speaker 5: aren't coaches, but we've pretend to be. Sometimes we watch
- 57:07Speaker 5: a lot of football and I don't how many times
- 57:09Speaker 5: any game and coverage we'll say, what do we say, brand.
- 57:12Speaker 2: Guy made a play?
- 57:13Speaker 4: Got made play?
- 57:15Speaker 2: I made a play?
- 57:16Speaker 1: You know?
- 57:17Speaker 4: Players like, was that a great play? I don't know?
- 57:19Speaker 4: God made a play? Yeah, I'm telling you it's yeah.
- 57:23Speaker 3: It's been in twenty years and you like think as
- 57:28Speaker 3: you go, oh, yeah, we got this great, it's play
- 57:31Speaker 3: yours here?
- 57:33Speaker 1: We get you ready, It's easy to do. Like, did
- 57:34Speaker 1: Major Harris make plays? Yeah he did? Did pac Man
- 57:37Speaker 1: Jones make place? Pat white Hat white Man Slayton? Right,
- 57:40Speaker 1: those guys make plays and go on the overund and
- 57:42Speaker 1: go over on the defensive side. Right, did Aaron Beasley
- 57:45Speaker 1: make plays? Guys make plays. That's what the whole that's
- 57:48Speaker 1: what the whole game is about.
- 57:49Speaker 3: You can scheme up some of the perfect guy drops
- 57:51Speaker 3: the ball. I mean you can have the like, man, it's.
- 57:54Speaker 4: There and then it doesn't happen, and but to the
- 57:57Speaker 4: outside it does. I'm just play.
- 58:00Speaker 3: So that's why the development aspect, the way we've got
- 58:03Speaker 3: our staff set up, that coach as has put together
- 58:06Speaker 3: our year long plan talent evaluation, talent development, how we
- 58:10Speaker 3: play those things like maximizing our players as our.
- 58:14Speaker 4: Number one goal.
- 58:15Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be interesting. First time he was here,
- 58:18Speaker 1: as you well remember, only they only won three games, right,
- 58:21Speaker 1: they won three games last year? He was oh and
- 58:23Speaker 1: three right at jack State at the start of the season,
- 58:27Speaker 1: and uh I talked to Jeff cass Steele as you
- 58:30Speaker 1: well know, Jacob's son was on richest staff there last
- 58:33Speaker 1: year at jack State. Now he's here in Morgantown and uh,
- 58:37Speaker 1: and Jeff went down. Jeff went down after like lost
- 58:40Speaker 1: one or two. They like, hey, come on down here,
- 58:44Speaker 1: like give us just take a peek. See what you're
- 58:46Speaker 1: thinking here. And I'm thinking to myself that ain't good,
- 58:50Speaker 1: Like I would not like to be in that building
- 58:53Speaker 1: when you're oh and one, oh and two and oh
- 58:55Speaker 1: and three with rich right. And I take a lot
- 58:58Speaker 1: from that because, as I was talking to him just
- 59:00Speaker 1: last night, we're in Parkersburg, they had sixty new bees
- 59:04Speaker 1: last year. You guys are gonna have over seventy newbies
- 59:08Speaker 1: on this team this year that weren't here a year ago.
- 59:10Speaker 1: And I would think the the angst that he had
- 59:13Speaker 1: to deal with last year probably taught him a lot
- 59:17Speaker 1: so it doesn't happen again this year.
- 59:20Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I can't speak on last year. I
- 59:22Speaker 3: just I got secondhand information obviously.
- 59:24Speaker 1: Well, your dad talk to your dad. I was heard.
- 59:26Speaker 4: I heard all about it.
- 59:27Speaker 3: That's like we were we were playing them, I guess,
- 59:29Speaker 3: and uh, you know, toward the end, and we're up
- 59:32Speaker 3: by a little bit, and uh, you know, we're we're
- 59:35Speaker 3: up by two scores or something like that, and we're
- 59:37Speaker 3: going down the field and and we probably ran out
- 59:40Speaker 3: the clock and uh and uh they we get down
- 59:44Speaker 3: like twenty yard line and it's like third down and
- 59:46Speaker 3: he's like and he said he got all had to said.
- 59:48Speaker 3: He was talking to dressers, like, now, I know my
- 59:50Speaker 3: son's not going to throw.
- 59:51Speaker 4: A pass here.
- 59:52Speaker 3: I just know he's just gonna get us out of
- 59:53Speaker 3: this game.
- 59:55Speaker 4: We thought a touchdown.
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: I saw, I said, hey, I mean, but when I
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: say that is like hell, he would tell me. He
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: told me, like how like And that's what coach Royd
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: does though. He ams up the environment so like he
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: makes he pulls the best out of everybody, not only players,
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: but coaches and staff as well.
- 1:00:15Speaker 4: And you know that's one thing that I'd say, you know.
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: It's it's uh you the lessons can always be learned.
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: You're always growing, like coach mentions like im. He said
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: he's a better head coach this year than what he
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: was last year, because if you don't learn from last year,
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: then you wasted a year, right, And so he's taking
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: a lot of life and that's good for me and
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: all of a sudden, staff members. I weren't with him
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: last year to to hear why we're doing things based
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: on what he's experienced and why why he made the
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: quarterbacks live and spring some so he can see this.
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: And so to me as a guy that's new, I'm
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: I'm loving, living, loving hearing all this information, hearing all
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: the experiences, because there's some things I experienced that he didn't,
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: and there's a lot more than he's experienced that I haven't.
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: So I'd say right now, like there's a method to
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: everything that we're doing. Sometimes as even as staff, we
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: don't know yet and he tells us after the fact,
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: you know, and it's really cool to hear. And so
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: it's it's but that's how it was back in two
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: thousand and three and four or five.
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: So it's business usual.
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- 1:02:21Speaker 2: Is that the first time we've had an advanced stat
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- 1:02:30Speaker 1: Dill's attorneys at Law, they won't, in fact based take
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: no for an answer. Okay, so this new world, you
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: guys have twelve new offensive linemen in this program since January.
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: Holy potato salad, dude, that's not to do it again? Well,
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: I know, so walk us through you know, we we
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: we've been trying to coordinate to get you in here,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: and it's been busy, busy. What is this reopening of
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: the portal bend like on a day to day base.
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: Well, like I talked about how we were evaluating everybody
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: in the portal and making sure that everyone gets looked at.
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: And so when we found somebody like, you know, there
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: there was tiers to like. All right, initial view by
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: a coach and then gets to myself, if there's somebody
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: that they like, and then I would sit there and
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: watch them and we talk about the guy and there's
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: somebody that we came a conclusion that we both liked,
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: and that's when we brought to coach and so we'd
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: sit in there and we'd watch the film with coach
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: and coach has the ultimate final yes, final no. And
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: so it's been a you know there again, the prioritizing
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: a few things. Athleticism, if we can get great size,
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: we wanted that gets up with office line perspective size.
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: We wanted to get that. But the athleticism piece was
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: number one piece. And then how they.
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: Played, you know, and do they play and it's different
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: than you know, high school freshmen. Sometimes you can grow
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: them and you can, you know, if they don't bite
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: as a pup. You know, Coach always tells a story
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: about his receiver that trend, you know, that that transition
- 1:03:59Speaker 3: into changing into be and a puff that did end
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: up biting because he got challenged. Sometimes when they're it
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: depends on where they're at in their career, right, and
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: so we want to make sure. One thing that we
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: looked for and Coach talked about this was, you know,
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: we look for production over potential when it comes to
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: the portal. We want somebody that's produced and shown rather
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: than potential. Because now if they're young and they have potential,
- 1:04:22Speaker 3: we put categorize that almost like a high school guy,
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: but they're you know, year three or four, what's the
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: production We'd rather roll, not roll dice. But we'd rather
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: put a hedge our bet with someone that's done it
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: right than someone who hasn't done it. But maybe can
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: you know, because and and there's a lot of communication
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: and getting the stories of.
- 1:04:40Speaker 4: Why guys are leaving and all and all that and.
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: So but we'll bring the cases to Coach, and Coach
- 1:04:45Speaker 3: will watch every single guy that we want to go on.
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys we brought that he didn't
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: like and we didn't take, you know, and so he yell.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: When you bring him a player that he doesn't like,
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: it does get this away from me? What'd you bring it?
- 1:04:58Speaker 4: Why? Why?
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: You'll be like, really you get the you know, I'm
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: not mad, I'm just disappointed.
- 1:05:06Speaker 4: So you know, you get those.
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: Every now and then you're coach man, it's tough slid now,
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: but uh, but that's the best thing about how we
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: do it because like and then he'll ask and and
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: it's it's layered tiers of evaluation. So you know, you
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: got to protect yourself against yourself. And when it comes
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: to valuation. So if if you're the only guy like somebody,
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: you know, we always want someone else to look at
- 1:05:30Speaker 3: it because oh I didn't see that, you know what,
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: you're right, or I don't agree with you, talk to
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: me about why, and so you can have those conversations.
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: And so I really like how we do things and
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: and uh, it's a consensus base. So then if we miss,
- 1:05:43Speaker 3: we all miss, or if we hit, we all hit.
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: And uh, and so coach, like I said, everyone you know,
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: coach has a final guest know on everything we do
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: in our program, especially on the player acquisition piece of
- 1:05:53Speaker 3: it and and the evaluation piece.
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: And it was a lot of guys for him to watch.
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: And he'd like, if you got to go trip somewhere,
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: he'd get guys put on eye and he'd watch him
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: on the plane and then come back and give.
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: Us he's been busting it. He's been busted because I
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: come down the hill and I look over in the
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: parking lot and it's Sunday morning and he's there. He's there,
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: he's there, He's there all the time. Now, probably no
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: one's told him yet. He could probably take that home
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: and watch that. But anyway, that's beside the point. That's
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: beside the point. He's in. He's working. So now that's
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: a piece of it. How much has it changed now
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: that a lot of these cats have agents? So you
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: just bit your lip. Now, I go ahead and study
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: the tape on that. He just bit his lip. So
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: how's that working now? Kill Brad is Brad Howe agent
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: at large. He calls you and says, I'm representing Sparky Smith.
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: He's an offensive lineman and he has two years of
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: eligibility and he really would be interested in West Virginia.
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: Are you getting a solicitations from agents.
- 1:06:51Speaker 4: I'm not talking to anybody like that.
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: Your GM is GM Chuck Lily, God bless his soul.
- 1:06:56Speaker 3: He is heaven sent. That's Rod said, I hired you
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: to handle that, dude. That's your job. And uh, Chuck
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: is the that handles all of our conversations between those guys,
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: like it's our job on the football piece and the
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: player piece and anything outside that is Chuck and their
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: representation if they do talk. But like Coach Rodd says,
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: you know, he's built for some things. One things that
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: he's not as built for those conversations. And I learned
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: that sometimes, like I think my dad side of me
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: comes out probably too. So I like that's why Chuck
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: is does a phenomenal job for us.
- 1:07:32Speaker 4: Chuck Lily, I mean he is.
- 1:07:34Speaker 3: I think he is was a home run higher by
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: Coach Rodriguez, and uh has done a great job for
- 1:07:39Speaker 3: us in that aspect.
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: But so agent calls, Brad calls Chuck and he says,
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: I got an old lineman and it's gonna cost you.
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: I need I need to fifty to start.
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: The No, no, no, I'm just saying I need two fifty
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: to stay and Chuck does the filtering, and he'll just say, hey,
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: if you're interested, there's an offensive lineman, and you guys
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: just kind of filter from there. Then you take a
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: look got his tape, and you say, okay, let's talk
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: or not talk.
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: Not really that does. Those conversations don't ever get to me.
- 1:08:05Speaker 3: That's Chuck and the head coach. What we do is
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: we evaluate everybody in the portal. So actually we don't.
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: We don't deal with that. We say, this is who
- 1:08:13Speaker 3: we like, and then we inquire with that kid. And
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: then once he says, hey, can you speak to my representation,
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: then we said, all right, give us the number.
- 1:08:21Speaker 4: Chuck, here you go, buddy, I gotcha.
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: You know, so don't we don't field, Yeah, get pick
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: and choose, and then we then I take the plate
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: and I passed it over there.
- 1:08:31Speaker 4: I said, buddy, you got it, you.
- 1:08:32Speaker 3: Know on that, and then we get them on a
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: visit and then we we The best thing about how
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: we said, coach got it is like separation between church
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: and state.
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: All right, we're the church, we're football. The state. They
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: can handle that.
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: Yeah, well, your dad when we had your dad on
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: when he decided not to come here and stay at
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: Jacksonville State. I mean he was. He was quite out and.
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: He said, dude, he was pretty self aware.
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: He said, I'm seventy eight, now is he I'm seventy eight,
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: he goes, and I'll never wi your kid is gonna
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: make more money than me. And you can do that
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: at Jacksonville State. Don't necessarily know if you could do
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: that at the power four level consistently. So, I mean,
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: at least like he knows. I mean, you got to
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: be in your comfort zone to adjust or not adjust
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: to this.
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, when this whole thing happened, you know,
- 1:09:17Speaker 3: he was you know, it's it's been a thing obviously,
- 1:09:19Speaker 3: because my mom's like every time, it's like.
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: Oh man, this is great.
- 1:09:21Speaker 3: My mom's like, oh okay, I mean we're here still,
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: you know. And she loves down there too. Don't get
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: me wrong, but she kind of wishes. But she's able
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: to be around Clinton, the baby and Kaal and all them,
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: and and so it's one of those things where you know,
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: Dad is at the point of his career. Like I
- 1:09:36Speaker 3: told him, I said, because he was actually talking to
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: me like, hey, I like it's this and it's that
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: I just worry about this, I say, Dad, I honestly
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: told him, I don't care. I don't give two craps. Dude,
- 1:09:46Speaker 3: whatever you want to do do, you've earned the right
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: in your Like I wish you would just be granddad
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: and just be granddad, you know what I mean. Uh,
- 1:09:54Speaker 3: but he's not built that way. He's Granddad, but he's
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: built to work. That's how he That's how he is,
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: and so.
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: You better start crawling soon.
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Like, it's one of those things where
- 1:10:08Speaker 3: it's one of those things where you know, I told him,
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: I don't care what you do.
- 1:10:11Speaker 4: Just you do what you want to do. You've earned that.
- 1:10:14Speaker 3: Like, this isn't about me, This isn't about Clint Chance,
- 1:10:18Speaker 3: anybody mom. This is about well, we have mom's part
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: of it. I shouldn't say that mom is one part
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: of it. But this is about what you want to
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: do at this phase in your life and whatever you
- 1:10:29Speaker 3: want to do, do it.
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
- 1:10:31Speaker 3: It's not like he's one NASS championship. He's done all
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: these things. He's been like, it ain't about money, it
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: ain't about all those things. He just wants to He's like,
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: I want to coach guys, and I don't want to
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: deal with all this stuff. And what I will say
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: with us, there is a little bit of that stuff,
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: but you know, we can filter it out. It's really
- 1:10:48Speaker 3: you're still coaching here. It's not like it doesn't get
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: everyone gets this.
- 1:10:51Speaker 4: Bad rap about today's world, you know, the way we're
- 1:10:54Speaker 4: set up.
- 1:10:54Speaker 3: I'll have to deal with it. Chuck deals with all
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: that when they're here in between, Like our kids, they're great.
- 1:10:59Speaker 3: It's ball, it's they want to be coached, they want
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: to be led, you know. Coach Rodriguez lets us coach
- 1:11:05Speaker 3: the way we want to coach. And so it's still
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: that same environment, you know. And so he yeah, he's uh,
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: he likes that life where it's a little bit more
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: slowed down down there and good and uh it's a
- 1:11:16Speaker 3: little bit more you know, not on the main stage.
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: People understanding probably better down there. Yeah, they talk like.
- 1:11:24Speaker 4: I remember everybody. When he came up here, he'd be
- 1:11:26Speaker 4: doing the postgame radio shows. People would be like, is
- 1:11:28Speaker 4: he drunk?
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: He mumbles, and then and then he'll laugh. He'll make
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: a joke and he'll laugh a laugh laughing. Is a
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: great old boy, an old boy come down. Yeah, So
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: he's the best. Yeah, you gotta translate. And sometimes I'll
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: be like, hate to say that again.
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: But but he's uh, you know, he only he only
- 1:11:52Speaker 3: gets that way when he's talking about something you really
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: don't want to talk about. But but now he's uh,
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: I know he's happy. I know he's had it's really
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: cool with him being coach with Clint right now.
- 1:12:01Speaker 4: You know, it'sle he went, I.
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: Know, he went to his head coach down there. He said,
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: you can get after I guess the first week of spring.
- 1:12:07Speaker 4: He said, you.
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: Gotta give me some kind of title like assistant, a
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: coach or something, so I can tell this little.
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: Sob to kiss my rear in what I don't want
- 1:12:14Speaker 4: to do it because I ain't having him be my boss.
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: So they're gonna be They're going to be any good.
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: You know, who knows nowadays with anybody.
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: Hard they get did they get hit by the portal hard?
- 1:12:25Speaker 4: You know?
- 1:12:25Speaker 3: I think you know everybody, I think everyone does. You know,
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: I really there's very few teams that can retain everybody.
- 1:12:30Speaker 3: You know, I haven't really talked to him about all
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: that stuff lately. You know, they've been you know, I
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: know Clint's out recruiting, dads out recruiting. I've been so
- 1:12:38Speaker 3: swamped with what we're doing. There has been a lot
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: of conversation on that. That's more or less like kind
- 1:12:42Speaker 3: of summer vacation. Will all catch up on that, but
- 1:12:45Speaker 3: right now it's, uh, the only the family, The only
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: people talking to family text are the wives right now,
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: sending pictures all that. Outside of us, we're all working.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: Your mom's the best all times. Like there's a Hall
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: of Fame for for football coaches wives. She's in first
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: first first ballot.
- 1:13:00Speaker 4: And duck down I would would nominate.
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- 1:13:42Speaker 1: Tons of stuff going on.
- 1:13:43Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah.
- 1:13:44Speaker 3: Closed June seconds. So family's down at Myrtle Beach. They'll
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: be moving up that first week of June.
- 1:13:50Speaker 4: How old are your kids now? Not eleven? Eleven, eight
- 1:13:54Speaker 4: and six?
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow, seriously your red shirt any of them.
- 1:13:59Speaker 3: We're actually on red shirt. The youngest one on the
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: move up here. Explain it to him and he was good,
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: and he didn't understand that first. But I was like, hey,
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: you know, I said, you're going to do that great
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: again and uh He's like, okay, why and I was like,
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: because this is this and just gave him the same
- 1:14:14Speaker 3: reason Maverick, I said, help me out. I'd say I
- 1:14:16Speaker 3: did it too, and then he was good.
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: So yeah.
- 1:14:19Speaker 4: But yeah, so you know, right now my daughter is
- 1:14:22Speaker 4: all in that cheer stuff. So we're here.
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: We need being fifth grader.
- 1:14:26Speaker 4: Don't ask me fifth grader that this boy girl boy?
- 1:14:31Speaker 4: So the boys eleven, so.
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: He's fifth grader. Hopefully you can be here a while.
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: You know that.
- 1:14:36Speaker 4: That's the plan. I mean, that is one hundred percent
- 1:14:38Speaker 4: of the plan.
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: My wife said, well, if you something happens after this
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: year and you know, like I said, I I'm good,
- 1:14:43Speaker 3: Like this is where I want to be. You know,
- 1:14:46Speaker 3: this is obviously you know home, and uh, like we're done.
- 1:14:51Speaker 4: I'm so tired of moving.
- 1:14:52Speaker 5: So if you guys have success, you guys have success,
- 1:14:56Speaker 5: you might get a call.
- 1:15:00Speaker 4: Well it's for this a cross ubridge. We'll get there
- 1:15:03Speaker 4: right now.
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: It's this.
- 1:15:04Speaker 3: I'm this is my dream job, working for my college
- 1:15:07Speaker 3: head coach and uh to be here and to have
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: my kids be able to go to school, like I'd
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: love to see them all graduate from Morgantime High and
- 1:15:16Speaker 3: Mohagan Pride.
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: Just it's just Mohegan Pride, Hoppy, that's all. That's that's
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: that's all. It is O t as kind of sort
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: of and how much you can touch them a lot
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: more than you used to be able.
- 1:15:29Speaker 4: To play rules.
- 1:15:30Speaker 3: You get a little bit, you get a lot of
- 1:15:32Speaker 3: time and a lot of time of football over the
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: summer where it's a certain number of like a couple
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: hours a week I think it is, And it's football
- 1:15:41Speaker 3: without any equipment. But you can throw the ball around
- 1:15:43Speaker 3: a little bit and coach them up. And so I
- 1:15:46Speaker 3: can't go against anybody, so we'll do that. Coach has
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: a plan that he's always done wherever he's been on
- 1:15:51Speaker 3: those things. And we did a little bit of that before,
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: and so that'll be a big piece for us to
- 1:15:57Speaker 3: see what we acquired, see where we're the biggest piece.
- 1:16:00Speaker 3: And then the meeting piece, you get a little bit
- 1:16:01Speaker 3: time to meet, and then then getting get him with
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: Mike Joe. So then that that conditioning piece of it.
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: You know, this summer, let it introduce all these new
- 1:16:09Speaker 3: acquisitions and new mountaineers to law School Hill. You know,
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: get him, get him, give him and doctored right, you know,
- 1:16:16Speaker 3: and uh, let him work with them a lot this
- 1:16:18Speaker 3: summer and and uh, really the mental piece of it
- 1:16:21Speaker 3: will be the big piece that we want to get
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: them ready to go. So when Faull Camp pits, you know,
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: we can get good evaluations and and uh and see
- 1:16:27Speaker 3: which guys we can go out there and try win
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- 1:16:29Speaker 1: They're stronger, tougher. All right, brother, it's been white. It's
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