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- 0:00Tracy Collins: Welcome to episode 137 of the UK Travel Planner Podcast.
- 0:04Tracy Collins: Today we're diving into the top experiences to have in Yorkshire with Andrew Ward from Expedition Yorkshire.
- 0:10Tracy Collins: Whether you're a foodie, history buff or nature lover, this episode is packed with tips to help you explore the largest county in England like a local.
- 0:18Intro: Welcome to the UK Travel Planning Podcast.
- 0:20Intro: Your host is the founder of the UK Travel Planning website, Tracy Collins.
- 0:25Intro: In this podcast, Tracy shares destination guides, travel tips and itinerary ideas, as well as interviews with a variety of guests who share their knowledge and experience of UK travel to help you plan your perfect UK vacation.
- 0:41Intro: Join us as we explore the UK from cosmopolitan cities to quaint villages, from historic castles to beautiful islands, and from the picturesque countryside to seaside towns.
- 0:59Tracy Collins: Hi, this week I'm thrilled to welcome Andrew Ward back to the podcast.
- 1:03Tracy Collins: Andrew previously joined us on episode 64 to talk about his incredible tour company, expedition Yorkshire, and today he's here to share his top five experiences for visitors to Yorkshire.
- 1:13Tracy Collins: For those who haven't listened to episode 64, andrew, could you start by introducing yourself and your company, expedition Yorkshire, for listeners who may not know you yet?
- 1:23Andrew Ward: Hello, yes, I'm Andrew and Tracy.
- 1:26Andrew Ward: I just want to say, first of all, very, very happy new year and thank you very, very much for inviting me back.
- 1:35Andrew Ward: You must be a glutton for punishment.
- 1:36Andrew Ward: I don't normally get invited back anywhere, so thank you very much.
- 1:40Andrew Ward: So I have been a tour guide in different parts of England and sometimes the world for lots and lots of years now, and three years ago I started Expedition Yorkshire, which basically we do exclusive private tours all over Yorkshire, the north of Englandland, up to southern scotland at the moment and a little bit beyond oh excited yes, uh, yeah, and if people harangue me hard enough, we kind of go anywhere wow, okay, well, yeah, and we, we.
- 2:20Tracy Collins: I will put a link to that episode of the podcast, because in that one you talk a lot about the company and how to book and everything like that.
- 2:27Tracy Collins: But we will include a link to that, thank you, because I would urge everybody to also listen to that episode, where Andrew talks in a lot of detail about Expedition Yorkshire and his love for Yorkshire, which brings me perfectly into the pivot, andrew, because you're not from Yorkshire.
- 2:43Andrew Ward: No, I'm not.
- 2:45Tracy Collins: Any British person listening is going to know that, because they're going to pick that up from your accent, but not necessarily everybody that listens to the podcast will know that.
- 2:54Tracy Collins: But you're not from Yorkshire.
- 2:55Tracy Collins: However, see, that for me, tells me the fact that you have moved to Yorkshire, tells me there's something special and lovely about that county, and I know that there is for sure.
- 3:10Andrew Ward: Sure, even though I don't live there but I want you to to share with our listeners what it is about york show, what is so special about it.
- 3:14Andrew Ward: Well, um, first of all, just um, if I may just meet you, your first part about not being from yorkshire, um, I think many of your listeners will know that converts are normally the most extreme right.
- 3:21Andrew Ward: So if you've converged, that you're really onto the thing that you're onto.
- 3:26Andrew Ward: And also, the other thing is one of the most famous people in recent times, particularly that many of your listeners will have heard of, that we tend to think is from Yorkshire, is James Herriot, and of course he wasn't Like me and we don't have a lot.
- 3:43Andrew Ward: I wouldn't compare myself to the great James Herriot and of course he wasn't Like me.
- 3:45Andrew Ward: We don't have a lot.
- 3:45Andrew Ward: I wouldn't compare myself to the great James Herriot, but we don't have tons of similarities.
- 3:51Andrew Ward: But the similarities we do have is that we're both from outside Yorkshire, both outsiders who he did live in Yorkshire, I now live in Yorkshire and we both hugely appreciate what Yorkshire is and how it is and it's also it's the largest county in England.
- 4:11Tracy Collins: I think that's a useful thing to say as well, because I think people don't necessarily realise just how big Yorkshire is.
- 4:18Andrew Ward: That's right.
- 4:18Andrew Ward: So Yorkshire is larger than 5,200 square miles.
- 4:24Andrew Ward: Now, if you're one of our very, very lovely listeners in the United States or Canada or Australia, you might hear that and just stroke your chin a bit.
- 4:36Andrew Ward: You might be thinking, well, that's not very big, but here in England that's enormous.
- 4:40Andrew Ward: As Tracy correctly said, it's the largest county in in england.
- 4:46Andrew Ward: But even if you were stroking your chin, thinking, well, you know, that's, that's just.
- 4:50Andrew Ward: You know a country park in in our, in our, I don't know in ohio or something it's, you know, it's nothing, it's a very small um.
- 5:00Andrew Ward: The thing that will, uh, amaze you is the extraordinary variety of scenery in Yorkshire.
- 5:08Andrew Ward: There is so many different sceneries and landscapes within that 5,200 square miles.
- 5:19Andrew Ward: There are different accents as well.
- 5:20Andrew Ward: So there's different, huge differences in both human, uh, geography and and physical geography.
- 5:28Andrew Ward: And I think if you're visiting england, you're visiting uk, you're visiting great britain.
- 5:35Andrew Ward: They're not the same, by the way.
- 5:36Andrew Ward: We'll learn about that on the tour, um, but if you're coming to visit these islands in the northeast Atlantic on your next holiday and I sincerely hope you do If you're not visiting Yorkshire, you've got to ask yourself why?
- 5:51Andrew Ward: Because it's the largest county.
- 5:53Andrew Ward: And wouldn't it be weird to go on holiday somewhere and miss out the largest, most diverse in terms of scenery.
- 6:00Andrew Ward: That would be crazy, that would be certifiable.
- 6:03Andrew Ward: So make sure you come and see yorkshire.
- 6:05Andrew Ward: It's a very special place.
- 6:06Andrew Ward: It has three national parks it has the yorkshire dales, the north york moors and it has the peak district.
- 6:15Andrew Ward: Uh, cumulatively that means over 2 000 square miles of of national park, which is really quite quite something if you just think about that for a moment.
- 6:27Andrew Ward: Uh, it has um amazing cities.
- 6:31Andrew Ward: So it's got york.
- 6:34Andrew Ward: I'm very biased about york because I live here.
- 6:36Andrew Ward: It's very old and it's beautiful and it looks like sort of char Dickens and Harry Potter and all those things roll into one.
- 6:45Andrew Ward: But it's also got cities like Leeds which are not just commercially very important.
- 6:53Andrew Ward: Leeds is a fascinating place with a deep and wonderful soul to it.
- 6:59Andrew Ward: And then you've got Sheffield, which is another great city, a great industrial heritage, a fascinating place.
- 7:08Andrew Ward: You've got Hull by the sea, which I love.
- 7:12Andrew Ward: Hull by the Humber Estuary, very, very dramatic place, has a real charisma to it.
- 7:19Andrew Ward: And then you've got Bradford as well, and Bradford I can't leave out.
- 7:25Andrew Ward: And I won't leave out not just because originally I actually studied there at the university.
- 7:30Andrew Ward: People often overlook it.
- 7:33Andrew Ward: I've heard people say things which aren't entirely positive, but I don't understand why.
- 7:39Andrew Ward: It's a fascinating place, and this year it is England's city of culture and I've taken tourists there and they've absolutely loved it, for reasons we might talk about later, later on.
- 7:51Andrew Ward: And then the other thing that yorkshire has is just this commanding and stellar and beautiful and and beautiful and intoxicatingly lovely coastline over 100 miles of it, so you just can't miss this part of the world.
- 8:10Andrew Ward: Have I said that enough?
- 8:14Andrew Ward: Yes, I think I have.
- 8:15Tracy Collins: But you know I was waiting for the Yorkshire thing of it's God's own country.
- 8:20Andrew Ward: Oh yes, and it's God's own country.
- 8:22Andrew Ward: I can't forget that I need to tick the Yorkshire bingo cliche.
- 8:27Andrew Ward: I've got to get them out.
- 8:31Tracy Collins: But it is a stunning county, it is a beautiful county and it's so diverse, as you said.
- 8:34Tracy Collins: So let's dive into the different experiences because, canada, what I want to do is to talk about what are the best experiences you can have when you visit Yorkshire.
- 8:45Tracy Collins: So what would be the first experience and I know these questions can be quite difficult because it's hard to pick, I can imagine but what would be the first experience you recommend to truly immerse yourself in Yorkshire?
- 8:56Andrew Ward: right.
- 8:57Andrew Ward: Well, I had a little.
- 8:59Andrew Ward: I kind of like a really sort of ruminated about this for time, because I could imagine people who, from yorkshire, just screaming at the podcast, going, oh he's just a cliche peddler and and what have you.
- 9:16Andrew Ward: But if you will, can I give you three things I think that everyone might want to crack at, and not necessarily all these things or in quite the way that I say, but things that might really immerse you in the Yorkshire culture.
- 9:30Andrew Ward: And it's almost too simplistic saying Yorkshire culture, because you find actually quite a different culture between East Yorkshire or the East Ridings and South Yorkshire, north Yorkshire and the West Ridings.
- 9:44Andrew Ward: You find different culture.
- 9:45Andrew Ward: But these are a few of the things that I think you need to do to really immerse yourself here.
- 9:52Andrew Ward: The first one is you need to eat fish and chips.
- 9:57Andrew Ward: But when I say eat fish and chips, I mean you need to really eat fish and chips.
- 10:01Andrew Ward: I know what you're thinking.
- 10:02Andrew Ward: You're thinking sat there, oh, fish and chips.
- 10:03Andrew Ward: I don't eat fried food.
- 10:05Andrew Ward: Like you know, it's the new year, I'm trying to lose weight, or, and how can that immerse you in the culture?
- 10:10Andrew Ward: You eat fish and chips lots of places.
- 10:12Andrew Ward: No, what I mean is really eat fish and chips.
- 10:17Andrew Ward: Okay, so you need to go to whitby, which is the world capital of fish and chips.
- 10:22Andrew Ward: Uh, you need to either eat in one of there are several very, very famous restaurants there which are grand old establishments.
- 10:31Andrew Ward: They have ways of making fish and chips which are just sublime.
- 10:39Andrew Ward: Okay, you don't make fish and chips with sunflower oil.
- 10:43Andrew Ward: Okay, you use something called beef tallow, and if you're not using beef tallow, it ain't right.
- 10:51Andrew Ward: Okay, so this is real fish and chips.
- 10:53Andrew Ward: Right, this is, this is the real deal.
- 10:55Andrew Ward: The potatoes that come from yorkshire are very, very special.
- 10:58Andrew Ward: And then on the wall of that fish and chip establishment will be a picture of, or it will be a board showing the name of, the boat that landed that fish that you're eating.
- 11:10Andrew Ward: Um, so that's real fish and chips, and uh, uh.
- 11:15Andrew Ward: And then, if you want, if you want to be really extreme about it, you really want to immerse yourself, you're going to leave the restaurant I mean, after paying, right and you're going to go to the end of the pier, you're going to sit in the wind, you're going to dodge the seagulls and you're going to look out to the devastatingly beautiful North Sea coast and you eat those fish and chips and it's going to taste so good.
- 11:40Andrew Ward: Is that immersive?
- 11:42Andrew Ward: true, true, and I totally agree, 100 agree now, another way, a non-food way, is to go to a football match.
- 11:52Andrew Ward: Now you could say that for all over england, uh, but I, I think there are certain experiences here which are, which are really, which, which I think will really you get a flavor of of the folk, of the folk.
- 12:06Andrew Ward: You get a flavor of what's going on Because, again, there's different to many of what your listeners may know In a lot of parts of the world.
- 12:14Andrew Ward: I'm not going to say anywhere specific, but a sports team.
- 12:17Andrew Ward: You go to the sports team, you cheer them on.
- 12:18Andrew Ward: It's about the sport in front of you, it's about the team.
- 12:21Andrew Ward: England is different, about the team.
- 12:22Andrew Ward: England is different.
- 12:25Andrew Ward: A football match in England it's like a vehicle for a lot of the local society and social issues that are going on.
- 12:33Andrew Ward: The terraces are the vehicle for that as well as the sport, and it makes it a lot richer, a lot deeper and sometimes a lot more passionate, both good and bad.
- 12:42Andrew Ward: And I would suggest that you get tickets for either a leeds united match or a york city match or bradford city football match, and I'm sure there are loads of other teams in yorkshire which I've left out, not because I don't like them, just because there's only so much time on the podcast.
- 12:58Andrew Ward: Those you know.
- 12:59Andrew Ward: These are some of the big, famous teams.
- 13:00Andrew Ward: You know leeds, united york city, bradford city.
- 13:03Andrew Ward: You go to one of those matches and I think you'll have a very, no matter whether they win or lose, you'll have a real experience.
- 13:11Andrew Ward: And finally, yorkshire is a very, very agricultural county.
- 13:16Andrew Ward: A lot of it is green, pleasant, beautiful.
- 13:20Andrew Ward: It's the very things you think of as England being the bucolic landscapes.
- 13:25Andrew Ward: And a way to really absorb that and learn about the people, the real people, is to go to one of the great, uh, one of the agricultural shows where the farmers, the people of the land, come together and and show what they sweat blood and tears every day over to produce, to bring to your plate, to to rear the animals, to grow the crops.
- 13:49Andrew Ward: So all that goes into that, the foods that it produces and and the people and the personalities behind that and the agricultural shows that I would recommend.
- 13:58Andrew Ward: The most famous is the great yorkshire show, uh, which happens every july.
- 14:04Andrew Ward: I I strongly advise to book ahead.
- 14:06Andrew Ward: It very often sells out.
- 14:08Andrew Ward: I think they're getting about 100,000 people a day.
- 14:12Andrew Ward: Go to the Great Yorkshire Show and there's something for everybody, whether you want to look at rare sheep breeds or the latest tractor technology or incredible foods that are made with local produce.
- 14:24Andrew Ward: What a wonderful sort of slice of yorkshire humanity, uh.
- 14:30Andrew Ward: And then you've got um the wreath show, which is very, very famous up in north yorkshire, up in the dales, uh.
- 14:37Andrew Ward: And if you don't come back, you know knowing more about sheep than james herriot after that then there's something wrong with you.
- 14:44Andrew Ward: Quite frankly, you need to check yourself.
- 14:45Andrew Ward: And the Nidderdale show is also very, very famous, and that's also up in the Yorkshire Dales National Park.
- 14:52Tracy Collins: So I think if you do even one of those things, I think you'll have a good grounding in Yorkshire culture for your well-spent time here.
- 15:04Tracy Collins: Oh, I love that.
- 15:05Tracy Collins: Well, I'm going to put my hand up and say I've only done one of those.
- 15:10Tracy Collins: I've well I have.
- 15:10Tracy Collins: I've been to football matches, but not in yorkshire, but but fish and chips it would be best ever.
- 15:12Tracy Collins: So there you go, yeah, best ever.
- 15:13Tracy Collins: And and and we, we try different places every time I go, because I know there are some very particularly famous ones, and we, we just try to try different, different fish and chip shops.
- 15:21Tracy Collins: And I'll tell you what we've never, ever been disappointed and we'd be with with the fish and chips that we've had, right.
- 15:28Tracy Collins: So for those of you who listen and who love exploring, so, um, you want to get out and about and explore some of the great yorkshire countryside.
- 15:35Tracy Collins: What would be one outdoor or scenic experience that you would recommend, andrew, that people don't miss?
- 15:41Andrew Ward: so something that I think uh would be a magnificent thing to do is to spend a day getting out of the city and going down to a place called Flamborough Head.
- 15:52Andrew Ward: It sticks out into the sea.
- 15:55Andrew Ward: There's a huge amount of land there to walk around Vast chalk cliffs it's some of the most northerly chalk in England.
- 16:04Andrew Ward: It's very, very, very dramatic.
- 16:06Andrew Ward: There's an incredible lighthouse there and next to flamborough head, right next to it, is the rspb, which is a big charity that preserves birds and bird environments uh, the rspb reserve at Benton Cliffs, and it's one of the best nature reserves I've ever been to.
- 16:30Andrew Ward: One of the logistical problems of looking at a bird on a cliff is that the cliffs are down below and you're on top, so you can't really see them very well.
- 16:38Andrew Ward: Right, they've got round that.
- 16:40Andrew Ward: They've built these bridges across the gaps.
- 16:42Andrew Ward: Now, if you're scared of heights, you know, go with caution, but other than that, it's an incredible day out uh, and if you go at the right time of year, uh, you can spot puffins.
- 16:55Andrew Ward: There you get an enormous puffin colony, which, which is really spectacular in gannets.
- 17:01Andrew Ward: Uh, it's one of the largest seabird colonies in the world and it's quite fascinating and unlike most other seabird colonies in the UK.
- 17:11Andrew Ward: You don't need to go out on a boat, you don't need to go to an island.
- 17:13Andrew Ward: That's a spectacular thing to do as well, but here you don't.
- 17:16Andrew Ward: So, yeah, I'd go for Flamborough Head, the RSPB Reserve at Benton do it on the same day and the beach at Filey.
- 17:24Andrew Ward: Once you're done with that, which is the longest beach in Yorkshire, it's very dramatic, wonderful sweep of golden sand.
- 17:29Andrew Ward: Filey is a lovely place.
- 17:33Tracy Collins: You can't go wrong, excellent.
- 17:33Tracy Collins: Now, I know we've mentioned a bit about food and drink, as you mentioned the fish and chips.
- 17:38Tracy Collins: Now, doug and I were very lucky to go out with you a year past December it was, I can't remember, I can't believe it's that long ago, honestly and we did a visit over to the Yorkshire Moors and we had a fantastic visit to a gin distillery, which was amazing and thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed that.
- 17:57Tracy Collins: So I know I'm hoping you're going to mention that, but what other kind of food and drink experiences would you recommend to have in Yorkshire?
- 18:04Tracy Collins: You know what everybody's I I just know people listen to this podcast to go yorkshire puddings.
- 18:08Tracy Collins: Shouldn't we have yorkshire puddings?
- 18:10Andrew Ward: so your, your listeners, are very, very well informed people.
- 18:15Andrew Ward: And, uh, I will definitely say yorkshire puddings, but I'm sure they already knew that, for those who don't know about yorkshire puddings, they are sent from sent from the gods, done well.
- 18:25Andrew Ward: Anyway, they're kind of like a 3D pancake, that's the way I describe them, yeah, and they are simply wonderful.
- 18:33Andrew Ward: And there's a company in York actually that wraps them up with a full Yorkshire dinner in one wrap of a Yorkshire pudding.
- 18:39Andrew Ward: And I mean, you know, your life is complete, right, but there's some other things in Yorkshire, yorkshire's food scene, because I don't think a lot of people don't like to go on places to holiday where there's not lots of delicious food, and yorkshire really has wonderful food.
- 18:55Andrew Ward: The ingredients here are very, very good because, because the nature of the farming here is very, very good, so we have excellent ingredients in yorkshire and one of the things that yorkshire's certainly, uh, I would say famous for, certainly amongst high-end chefs um, yorkshire actually has a particular ingredient which is, which really has to kind of come from yorkshire, which is something called, uh, forced rhubarb and rhubarb.
- 19:22Andrew Ward: Rhubarb is very famous from yorkshire and forced rhubarb is shipped all over the world in season.
- 19:29Andrew Ward: It's the finest form of rhubarb and you'll find it served up in some of the finest restaurants in the world.
- 19:35Andrew Ward: And most of the rhubarb in the world is grown in yorkshire and forced rhubarb is the rolls royce of rhubarb.
- 19:43Andrew Ward: Okay, now it doesn't sound very politically correct Forced rhubarb but luckily you're still allowed to.
- 19:55Andrew Ward: I can't say that Forced rhubarb, what's forced rhubarb?
- 19:58Andrew Ward: Forced rhubarb is rhubarb that's grown traditionally in sheds in the dark and it's picked by candlelight, which sounds so romantic and the reason why any light causes photosynthesis in the rhubarb.
- 20:13Andrew Ward: That makes bitter a flavor almost immediately.
- 20:16Andrew Ward: So the whole thing is harvested by candlelight in these sheds.
- 20:21Andrew Ward: The sheds are kept warm with coal traditionally and that's that's forced rhubarb, and it's particularly red on the outside, particularly white on the inside, has a particularly delicate and gorgeous flavor.
- 20:33Andrew Ward: If you're not familiar with rhubarb, it can be cooked and present in lots of different ways and makes the most exquisite dessert, and you can also have it as a savory dish as well.
- 20:43Andrew Ward: And it's such a celebrated thing that there is the Wakefield Rhubarb Festival and you won't find it anywhere else in the world and you'll find chefs coming from everywhere doing exquisite and extraordinary things with rhubarb.
- 20:57Andrew Ward: So look up the Wakefield Rhubarb Festival.
- 21:01Tracy Collins: I had no idea.
- 21:02Tracy Collins: I had literally no idea.
- 21:03Tracy Collins: That's in the spring.
- 21:05Andrew Ward: And then you've also got the Malton Food Festival, which isn't too far from York, which has become pretty famous.
- 21:12Andrew Ward: Malton is a hotbed of incredible restaurants doing incredible things and taking advantage of all the great food around, and I think it's worth mentioning that Yorkshire is home to some really special restaurants these days, and there are obviously some.
- 21:37Andrew Ward: I'm just giving you little clues and you can look them up after the show.
- 21:41Andrew Ward: There's a very, very famous chef in Yorkshire who's done a lot to put Yorkshire on the map and demonstrate the amazing ingredients that are grown or reared here.
- 21:54Andrew Ward: His name's Tommy Banks and he's got restaurants that hold Michelin stars in Yorkshire and in general he's just done a lot to enhance the image as Yorkshire is a place to come and eat.
- 22:05Andrew Ward: But then, like the other day, I was very, very lucky.
- 22:09Andrew Ward: I was invited.
- 22:12Andrew Ward: It sounds like I'm sort of hobnobbing the great and the good.
- 22:16Andrew Ward: It's not.
- 22:17Andrew Ward: I just got lucky on this occasion.
- 22:19Andrew Ward: You're on the podcast, Andrew I was invited to eat by the owners at a restaurant called Pranzo, which specializes in Calabrian cuisine from Italy, and the food was exceptional.
- 22:37Andrew Ward: It was like exceptional.
- 22:39Andrew Ward: And they have a restaurant in Harrogate, they're opening another one in York.
- 22:45Andrew Ward: They have a restaurant in harrogate, they're opening another one in york and, more to the point, it was just showing like the standard of food that you can now get in yorkshire.
- 22:51Andrew Ward: Their focus, in particular, was also on making pasta from the beginning, uh, and where possible, they use local ingredients.
- 22:59Andrew Ward: Where not, they bring them in from italy, but the point is, you can eat amazing food here.
- 23:03Andrew Ward: And finally, uh, I mentioned it briefly before bradford is city of culture this year and, uh, bradford, uh, has a very, very large, uh, asian community and the curry houses there are extraordinary.
- 23:19Andrew Ward: Some of the food that they're turning out uh is, yeah, is world class, there's no two ways about it.
- 23:25Andrew Ward: And a restaurant that I really love there and everyone's got their favorite restaurants.
- 23:31Andrew Ward: And, uh, there's a restaurant there called, uh, mum tats, uh, which is really, really great.
- 23:37Andrew Ward: They look after you very, very well and they've got a big letter up on the wall lit up.
- 23:44Andrew Ward: In fact, they they put it on a frame with lights behind it because, can you believe it?
- 23:50Andrew Ward: Our beloved late queen and prince philip ate there many, many years ago.
- 23:54Andrew Ward: Um, so if it's good enough for the monarchy, it's certainly good enough for you.
- 23:58Andrew Ward: And that's just some of the food highlights I think in in yorkshire and I know there's so many more and there'll be people screaming who are from Yorkshire going.
- 24:07Andrew Ward: What about this, what about that?
- 24:08Andrew Ward: I don't have time to mention, but those are the ones that occur to me right now.
- 24:12Tracy Collins: Ah, that's perfect.
- 24:13Tracy Collins: Now we can't talk about Yorkshire without talking about history and culture of that huge and beautiful county.
- 24:20Tracy Collins: So, and again, I know this is a really difficult question to put you on the spot, but what would you say was an experience that showcases that history and culture?
- 24:30Andrew Ward: So I think something that I think this is actually probably quite popular in America.
- 24:37Andrew Ward: Other parts of the world they'll think are you mad?
- 24:39Andrew Ward: But historical reenactment is incredibly popular in Yorkshire it really is, and there's a lot to reenact because the history here is both long and and tumultuous and involving many, many different peoples.
- 24:58Andrew Ward: I would go to either a Civil War reenactment so our Civil War is from the late 1600s, a Civil War reenactment and or you could go to a War of the Roses reenactment, and they normally take place at old castles.
- 25:19Tracy Collins: Yeah, how amazing.
- 25:21Andrew Ward: So you know you go to, for example, a reenactment at Midland Castle.
- 25:24Andrew Ward: Well, midland Castle was where the young Richard III grew up when he was a teenager, and now it's a ruin and they have reenactments there.
- 25:34Andrew Ward: Look them up, they're really spectacular.
- 25:36Andrew Ward: And there's an old house called nunnington hall.
- 25:41Andrew Ward: Uh, in fact, nunnington hall is where the last wife of henry the eighth, catherine parr, grew up.
- 25:48Andrew Ward: Not that far from york, I always think, a little bit undervisited.
- 25:51Andrew Ward: Fantastic house.
- 25:53Andrew Ward: Uh, they, they have, uh, in the summer months they have some civil war reenactments that take place there and just the not only the characters that people play, but the characters that take part.
- 26:03Andrew Ward: You have to see it to believe it.
- 26:05Andrew Ward: If people go on our instagram, can I mention that on the x from a while back, uh, I met somebody on one of our tours from the medieval society who crafted his own bow and arrows in the exact way that they did in the 12th century, and that was his passion, was 12th century hours and making them and then dressing and all the clothes, and they take place in a medieval weekend up at bolton castle, which is incredible.
- 26:31Andrew Ward: So, and then we can focus on the more recent history in uh, grassington, famous for all creatures, great and small, of course.
- 26:39Andrew Ward: Uh, they have a 1940s, 1930, late 1930s, early 1940s weekend, a world war ii recreation which is really spectacular.
- 26:49Tracy Collins: Every year it was really spectacular well, I'll uh, I'll have to look up the dates of these and add them in the show notes, because they sound absolutely fascinating.
- 26:57Tracy Collins: So what about hidden gems?
- 26:59Tracy Collins: Because we always get asked about hidden gems.
- 27:01Tracy Collins: What would you say would be the lesser known experience or hidden gem that you would recommend in Yorkshire?
- 27:10Andrew Ward: So there's a couple.
- 27:11Andrew Ward: The first this really melds together both Yorkshire's fascinating social history and also its geological history is mining.
- 27:23Andrew Ward: Mining is a huge part of yorkshire's history, uh, both in the recent some of your listeners may know about the miners strikes of the 1980s and and all the social upheaval that brought, but it's just a big part of yorkshire's story and through the industrial revolution.
- 27:39Andrew Ward: So I would recommend the National Mining Museum, where you get to go underground as well.
- 27:43Andrew Ward: I think that's pretty amazing.
- 27:44Andrew Ward: Yeah, that would be my standout.
- 27:48Tracy Collins: Okay, cool and whereabouts is that?
- 27:52Andrew Ward: It's not too far away from Sheffield, it's in South Yorkshire.
- 27:57Tracy Collins: What about seasonal experiences in Yorkshire that visitors can plan for?
- 28:02Tracy Collins: And I'm kind of thinking here because we were up last time near Christmas.
- 28:06Tracy Collins: Obviously the Christmas market is something I was thinking about that if you're going to be in York, you can have a little stroll around the York Christmas market.
- 28:13Tracy Collins: But what are the seasonal things?
- 28:15Tracy Collins: Would you say, okay, this is, you're going to be here in summer, you're going to going to be in spring.
- 28:18Tracy Collins: These are the sort of things that you should think about experiencing so, um, a few things.
- 28:23Andrew Ward: Uh, one of the things that might really, really surprise you is yorkshire is an excellent place to come and do some whale watching.
- 28:29Andrew Ward: You can go on a whale watching tour.
- 28:31Andrew Ward: You can see minky whales swimming down the north sea.
- 28:34Andrew Ward: With quite high levels of chance that you do spot a whale.
- 28:38Andrew Ward: These things can't matter where you do it in the world.
- 28:40Andrew Ward: It can never be guaranteed.
- 28:41Andrew Ward: But there are some brilliant boat tours leaving from Steaths and from Whitby that go out, and even if you don't see whales, you go out in the early evening and you see the stunning coastline from the sea.
- 28:54Andrew Ward: So that's a really good thing to do.
- 28:56Andrew Ward: In later summer is the whale watching into the into the early autumn.
- 29:01Andrew Ward: The rhubarb we've we've already mentioned, which is in the spring.
- 29:04Andrew Ward: Uh, fountains abbey, which is spectacular, it's absolutely spectacular.
- 29:11Andrew Ward: Uh, you can go there.
- 29:13Andrew Ward: They have several nights just before um christmas, late nove, november, early December, where it's open at night, where they light it up and they play monastic music.
- 29:27Andrew Ward: Amongst the ruins.
- 29:28Andrew Ward: You can just wander around with a small torch.
- 29:31Andrew Ward: It's a truly wonderful, life-enhancing experience.
- 29:37Andrew Ward: It really is life-enhancing experience.
- 29:44Andrew Ward: It really is.
- 29:44Andrew Ward: Uh.
- 29:44Andrew Ward: And the other thing which a lot of people are not familiar with.
- 29:46Andrew Ward: If you look at a map of europe and if you look, this is a really weird thing to do.
- 29:50Andrew Ward: I do weird things, I, I, I'm, I mean not that weird, but but if you, if you look at a map of light pollution across Europe, yorkshire, north Yorkshire, is one of the least light-polluted places in Western Europe and in fact NASA have come to recognize this.
- 30:11Andrew Ward: Because NASA and an institute connected with NASA have authenticated certain parts of the world as dark sky reserves and that puts a lot of responsibility on that place.
- 30:24Andrew Ward: For example, street lights have to be cowled and soft lighting be used wherever possible to keep that status.
- 30:31Andrew Ward: There's a lot of other things they have to do to keep that status.
- 30:33Andrew Ward: Yorkshire, north Yorkshire, has the dark sky status and therefore stargazing here is really really spectacular.
- 30:45Andrew Ward: And the time to come and do that is um late autumn through to march.
- 30:51Andrew Ward: That's the time to do it.
- 30:53Andrew Ward: The reason why that's the time if you come after that time, the darkness comes very late.
- 31:01Andrew Ward: Because the very long days in summer, very short days in winter, daylight hours in winter because it's a pretty northerly latitude here uh, about 50 doing off top of my head, 53 degrees north I think around about.
- 31:16Andrew Ward: So so big extremes in the in the daylight.
- 31:21Andrew Ward: So summer is not an amazing time to come do that, but the amazing time to come do that is the off season and everywhere is quiet as well.
- 31:28Andrew Ward: So what a great thing to do to come and see the stars here.
- 31:31Andrew Ward: And you don't just have to come and see the stars with your naked eyes.
- 31:33Andrew Ward: There are amazing places to go and see the stars.
- 31:38Andrew Ward: For example, up at Sutton Bank they've got an observation center there.
- 31:43Andrew Ward: Uh, in Dolby Forest they've got an observatory with big telescopes that the public on specific nights can actually use and, and you know, uh, we can also come and help you see the stars, literally well, that sounds amazing.
- 31:58Tracy Collins: So what kind of travelers do you think yorkshire is suited for?
- 32:02Andrew Ward: so I thought about this long and hard, and I came up with an answer that none of you are going to expect.
- 32:09Andrew Ward: Are you ready?
- 32:10Andrew Ward: Three, two, one everybody yep, absolutely 100.
- 32:19Tracy Collins: Agree, it really is.
- 32:20Tracy Collins: It has a county that that has something for everybody.
- 32:24Tracy Collins: It really really does.
- 32:24Tracy Collins: Just thinking about families visiting Yorkshire, what would you recommend?
- 32:29Tracy Collins: Uh, if you're, if you're traveling to the UK and you're traveling through and you've got a few, you've got your kids with you, which is something that Doug and I don't have to do these days because our daughter's grown up.
- 32:41Tracy Collins: But obviously a lot of our listeners have got their families and they're travelling through.
- 32:45Tracy Collins: What would you recommend for families?
- 32:46Tracy Collins: What should they do?
- 32:48Andrew Ward: So as a general point, I mean I think a great day out for a family, particularly if you've got young children.
- 32:53Andrew Ward: I have very, very young children, so I you know everyone's looking at like the famous old church.
- 33:00Andrew Ward: I'm not, I'm looking at the playground, the best of the playground, the best of the day that I'm gonna have.
- 33:05Andrew Ward: So if that sounds flippant, but it's pretty important when you've got no, that is that is really important.
- 33:12Tracy Collins: I was going to ask you which, because I'm thinking about if you go, obviously, uh, to some of the the kind of famous or well-known places, like some of the houses, and I guess a lot of these places now have really good playgrounds They've kind of realized that they need to include something for the little kids so they can have a bit of a run around in the day.
- 33:32Andrew Ward: As a general point, if you go to a property that is run by the National Trust, look up the national trust.
- 33:41Andrew Ward: That is britain's gift to the world the national trust.
- 33:43Andrew Ward: It's an amazing, amazing institution.
- 33:45Andrew Ward: If you go to a property that's looked after by the national trust, there will always be an amazing playground and a great cafe.
- 33:53Andrew Ward: Yeah, good toilet facilities.
- 33:55Andrew Ward: All of your children needs are taken care of right there.
- 33:59Andrew Ward: Uh, also, if the weather's even halfway reasonable and kind of even if it's not a day out at the seaside, and that doesn't have to be whitby whitby's amazing.
- 34:10Andrew Ward: But other ideas are, for example, uh, bridlington bridlington's not talked about as much great beach, um, and if you go at the right time of year, there's a kite festival there which overlooks the sea.
- 34:23Andrew Ward: We took our children there last year and it was really one of the most special days that we had as a family in 2024 wow, that's lovely.
- 34:32Tracy Collins: So what about solo travelers or couples visiting yorkshire?
- 34:35Tracy Collins: What would you recommend?
- 34:37Andrew Ward: um, I think, solo traveling, um, I think, if, if you're physically fit, um, and you're looking for that, that isolation, that time to think.
- 34:46Andrew Ward: Yorkshire has some extraordinarily wonderful long distance walks.
- 34:50Andrew Ward: These are walks where you can do a few miles each day, stay in a hotel or an inn like it's like a pub with bedrooms in the evening.
- 34:59Andrew Ward: There's like the cleveland way, which is a very well marked walk.
- 35:02Andrew Ward: Uh would be a good example, uh, and again it gives you a real sense of the of the county, or the yorkshire wolds way.
- 35:11Andrew Ward: Again.
- 35:12Andrew Ward: You could pick one of those walks.
- 35:13Andrew Ward: You don't need to walk all of it.
- 35:14Andrew Ward: You know you, you get.
- 35:16Andrew Ward: You get like the, the, the tough guys are doing that.
- 35:19Andrew Ward: You know 110 miles.
- 35:20Andrew Ward: You might just pick out a 15 mile pretty stretch that goes through.
- 35:25Andrew Ward: If you look at your maps at home where it says a o n?
- 35:28Andrew Ward: B area of outstanding natural beauty which I think has just been rebranded as uh, national landscapes they now called uh, but on your map I mean the maps are still printed a or n?
- 35:40Andrew Ward: B.
- 35:40Andrew Ward: You pick out a 10 or 20 mile or whatever you're capable of.
- 35:44Andrew Ward: Maybe you just want to do it for a day, but that that the paths are very well marked for those of you coming from parts of the world where you're not just allowed to walk across land.
- 35:55Andrew Ward: England is amazing for that.
- 35:57Andrew Ward: You, you can walk for miles here uninterrupted.
- 36:00Andrew Ward: Uh, nobody's going to shout at you or anything like that.
- 36:05Andrew Ward: If you get it slightly wrong golf, golf course a bit, you're absolutely free to walk in in many spots here, um, you know, and there are well marked rights of way and you can have a wonderful, peaceful day to yourself and and it's a really nice way to pass life.
- 36:23Tracy Collins: I love, I love that yeah, good time to reflect and enjoy.
- 36:27Tracy Collins: Yeah, yeah, be in the moment yeah.
- 36:31Andrew Ward: And then for couples, is that yeah, for couples, yeah, yeah.
- 36:35Andrew Ward: So I I think yorkshire is intrinsically romantic.
- 36:39Andrew Ward: Okay, there's loads of places here with no crowds that are kind of you can just hide away.
- 36:45Andrew Ward: You know there are 26, I think, dales or valleys, and in the yorkshire dales national park you've got over 900 square miles of the park.
- 36:54Andrew Ward: Um, that's a lot of places to be romantic and hide away.
- 36:58Andrew Ward: And there are a good number of exquisite hotels and I mean exquisite which either you can go for simple, exquisite, you know the rustic charm, or ones which have, you know, the full spa and the swimming pool and and all the, all the lovely bells and whistles.
- 37:16Andrew Ward: And some of those hotels I kind of divide hotels into two halves.
- 37:20Andrew Ward: There are like luxury hotels, where you stay there but you're going to go out and explore, and there are others where designed to just not leave, and yorkshire has both wow.
- 37:31Tracy Collins: So what practical tips do you have for visitors planning to experience all of these highlights, I'd like to say, but it's going to be impossible unless you move to yorkshire, but to experience some of these highlights, I'd like to say, but it's going to be impossible unless you move to yorkshire.
- 37:42Andrew Ward: But to experience some of these highlights.
- 37:43Andrew Ward: My first practical tip would be I think, don't fixate on the same old months.
- 37:51Andrew Ward: Okay, one of the really weird things.
- 37:54Andrew Ward: It's counterintuitive.
- 37:56Andrew Ward: People generally don't think to themselves I want stunning weather, I'm going to take a holiday in england or a holiday in great britain, that's that, that that doesn't happen.
- 38:04Andrew Ward: But, weirdly, what that means is that's so liberating.
- 38:08Andrew Ward: You're not coming here for the weather, which means you can come here at any time of year, and by coming here at different times, you you get different benefits.
- 38:19Andrew Ward: Of course, if you come in the very popular different times, you get different benefits.
- 38:21Andrew Ward: Of course, if you come in the very popular months like May, you get the spring and you get everything green and the lambs are jumping around.
- 38:27Andrew Ward: But remember, if you come in autumn and winter, you can see those exquisite dark skies.
- 38:33Andrew Ward: This is still one of the few places in Western Europe where you can see the Milky Way with the naked eye.
- 38:41Andrew Ward: I come across lots of people from around the world who've never seen their own galaxy, the galaxy that we live in.
- 38:48Andrew Ward: You can see it in Yorkshire.
- 38:51Andrew Ward: Okay, so come at different times of year.
- 38:56Andrew Ward: There is no bad time of year to visit Yorkshire.
- 39:01Andrew Ward: The other thing I would say is now, this is a real, slightly hidden agenda, but it's so obvious it's not hidden To most of the listeners out there.
- 39:13Andrew Ward: There will be a few people this doesn't apply to.
- 39:15Andrew Ward: This will not apply to you if you are wait for it.
- 39:17Andrew Ward: If you are a professional stunt driver, this doesn't apply to you.
- 39:22Andrew Ward: If you are a former NASCAR driver, it doesn't apply to you.
- 39:28Andrew Ward: Okay, if you are a pro driver, great, great for you.
- 39:35Andrew Ward: But I personally wouldn't hire a car and drive.
- 39:41Andrew Ward: Now I do run a company that drives you around.
- 39:44Andrew Ward: So there's my agenda.
- 39:46Andrew Ward: Right, it's there.
- 39:48Andrew Ward: Don't come in the comments, nasty comments.
- 39:51Andrew Ward: He's only saying that because I've told you that that's what I do.
- 39:53Andrew Ward: But I genuinely think if you come from a part of the world that drives on the other side of the road and many of our road signs are codified, meaning you can't read them to understand them, you will not know what they mean, and they're very, very important.
- 40:11Andrew Ward: Not reading them can get you in a lot of trouble, correctly.
- 40:16Andrew Ward: On top of that, many parts of Yorkshire very, very narrow roads, they have stone walls which are completely unforgiving, and you really don't want to be in a stress with your rental car and then we have many different types of fuel here.
- 40:31Andrew Ward: You might be putting the wrong fuel in that rental car.
- 40:33Tracy Collins: So I would personally say, if you can, let us take the strain and also, I'm also going to say that if, if you are, if you're doing the driving, andrew, andrew, if you're doing the driving, andrew, you can sit back and enjoy the drive, because that's the thing, if one of you is driving I don't know it with with doug and I doug tends to do the driving and I'm doing the navigating.
- 40:55Tracy Collins: So, even though he's doing the driving, I'm doing the navigating, you're concentrating and you do the driving.
- 40:59Andrew Ward: I'm doing the navigating, you're concentrating, and you'd miss a lot of the beautiful things that you're driving past Exactly, and I would also say that your holiday sometimes and again I'll say it again and again your listeners are incredibly intelligent, but sometimes it's not appreciated that just to wake up in the morning is expensive.
- 41:18Andrew Ward: You've had to get the flight over and the hotel, et cetera.
- 41:21Andrew Ward: So then when you start to hire a car, it becomes a very false economy, because most of that day is then just spent looking at the road ahead.
- 41:29Andrew Ward: Well, at least one person in that car can only look at the road ahead.
- 41:32Andrew Ward: They can't drink, they have to do all the rest, and so, yeah, more reasons to not drive when you're in the uk yeah.
- 41:43Tracy Collins: So I do want to ask you um and obviously I sent you some questions before we did the podcast, but I think it's a perfect opportunity, andrew, for you to talk about how you do your tours.
- 41:52Tracy Collins: So you can, they can be bespoke, so anybody, if you're listening and going I I really fancy some of these experiences then you need to contact andrew.
- 42:00Tracy Collins: He can, he can design that.
- 42:02Andrew Ward: We so right, Just to explain, we do do bespoke tours, right.
- 42:06Andrew Ward: There's there's no two ways about that, and if someone comes to me and they want to do this mad thing, we'll always consider it.
- 42:11Andrew Ward: But here's the great thing, and this is where we're a little bit different than other entities out there.
- 42:17Andrew Ward: You don't need to know anything, because that's kind of stressful as well, you know.
- 42:22Andrew Ward: You have to kind of know these things that you don't need to.
- 42:24Andrew Ward: On our website we have pre-designed tours, okay.
- 42:29Andrew Ward: So all you need to do is look at those pre-designed tours.
- 42:32Andrew Ward: Does it take your fancy?
- 42:33Andrew Ward: And if it does, then we do do the rest of the hard work.
- 42:40Andrew Ward: We've designed these tours to show you the very, very best.
- 42:44Andrew Ward: We work very hard to make sure that you're not missing out on things.
- 42:48Andrew Ward: So if you are like me, I suffer terribly from was it FOMO, fear of missing out you won't have FOMO, because you'll know that when I founded the company, I actually drove more than 5,400 miles of research, okay.
- 43:05Andrew Ward: Now, if you want to know how far 5,400 miles is, then my lovely wife, joe, is American.
- 43:12Andrew Ward: She comes from Ohio.
- 43:13Andrew Ward: That means I drove from my front door If it was a straight line all the way to Ohio and then a bit bit further.
- 43:18Andrew Ward: Okay, and I did that in research so that you don't have to know those things all you need to do is pick out the tours.
- 43:26Andrew Ward: Now, if there is something very specific that I've mentioned today that you want to do, get in contact us we.
- 43:30Andrew Ward: We may be able to coordinate it.
- 43:33Andrew Ward: Okay, we may be able to put it together for you as well perfect.
- 43:37Tracy Collins: That's great, andrew.
- 43:38Tracy Collins: Andrew, we'll put a link to Expedition Yorkshire in the show notes, as always anyway.
- 43:42Tracy Collins: So, andrew, one thing I did want to talk to you about.
- 43:45Tracy Collins: One type of tour that you offer which is incredibly popular is all your transfer tours, and I know that you do the York Edinburgh.
- 43:54Tracy Collins: We'll chat about that.
- 43:55Tracy Collins: And also you've now doing a London York vice versa, so would you like to just chat about that?
- 43:59Tracy Collins: And also you do you've now doing a london york vice versa.
- 44:01Andrew Ward: So would you like to just chat about those transfer tours, because I just know that they will be of huge interest thank you, yes, so our transfer tours are proven to be pretty popular and we've already now for a couple of years run uh y, edinburgh or Edinburgh York.
- 44:20Andrew Ward: We run all our transfer tours in both directions and it's a tour, but it's one way, so we see lots of interesting places on the way.
- 44:31Andrew Ward: We use some lovely back roads, but we also use some main roads, because if we only used back roads we're covering a big distance.
- 44:39Andrew Ward: It would be too much, but we basically see lots of things on the way.
- 44:45Andrew Ward: So what's the advantage to you, the guest, you the traveler, you the explorer?
- 44:50Andrew Ward: The advantage to you is that you make the absolute best time of your very, very valuable holiday or vacation time.
- 44:58Andrew Ward: Time of your very, very valuable holiday or vacation time.
- 45:04Andrew Ward: Okay, and that's because if you use public transport, you've got to haul your cases to the station, get the, the, the, the, get a taxi at either end, and really what's happened then is you've seen two different places, but your travel day between those places is largely not part of the holiday.
- 45:18Andrew Ward: It feels removed and kind of like hassle.
- 45:21Andrew Ward: We take all that away.
- 45:22Andrew Ward: We come and meet you at your hotel in the morning, we take your cases, we put them in the back of the Mercedes-Benz V-Class and we go up country, looking at lots of interesting things on the way, getting out lots and on and, or as much or as little as you want to do, right, when we go from york up to edinburgh, we see really famous places like hadrian's wall and, uh, we also see the stunning northumberland coastline, for example, or we see the, the high hills in the middle of the country that you can't really see any other way.
- 45:56Andrew Ward: Uh, we do things that you could never, ever do on public transport.
- 46:00Andrew Ward: Then we are just introducing a new transfer tour and this one goes from london up to york.
- 46:07Andrew Ward: Uh, we'll be going via, principally via, cambridge and lincoln, uh, which is some of the most beautiful cities in england, and we're going up through Lincolnshire, through Cambridgeshire.
- 46:20Andrew Ward: It will be a really, really lovely day leaving London and then getting up to York.
- 46:25Andrew Ward: So you could put two of those tours together so we could take you from London up to York.
- 46:32Andrew Ward: You could have three days in York you don't see us, relief and then at the end of those three days, uh, we come and pick you up and take you from york up to edinburgh.
- 46:45Andrew Ward: So we cover the whole country, or the whole, not the whole country, but we cover big countries, of course, because we're crossing the border into scotland, let's make that very clear.
- 46:53Andrew Ward: Uh, but then the wider united kingdom country.
- 46:57Andrew Ward: This is very complicated, but we can take you the full length.
- 47:00Andrew Ward: Put it that way the full length.
- 47:01Tracy Collins: That's brilliant, that's great to know really and, as I say, we'll put a link in to the show notes to the website.
- 47:08Tracy Collins: Thank, you.
- 47:09Tracy Collins: But people can email you and chat about those as well.
- 47:13Andrew Ward: Yeah, absolutely, and they're very open to making little twists and changes.
- 47:18Andrew Ward: So, for example, on the London to York run or the York to London run, it may be that for you the most important thing is to see Cambridge and have a little walk around Cambridge, but it also may be that, actually, what you'd much prefer to do is swap out Cambridge for the Duxford Air Museum and all the World War II history.
- 47:38Andrew Ward: We can do that, it's not a problem.
- 47:41Tracy Collins: Perfect, I love that flexibility.
- 47:43Tracy Collins: Okay, so I always ask this one question at the end of every podcast episode.
- 47:48Tracy Collins: So, andrew, this is your turn.
- 47:50Tracy Collins: What is the one tip you would share with someone who wants to experience Yorkshire for the first time?
- 48:05Andrew Ward: the first time.
- 48:06Andrew Ward: My tip would be spend more days here.
- 48:07Andrew Ward: Don't be that person that just comes up on the fast train, gets out.
- 48:08Andrew Ward: I mean, it's a very fine building, the Minster, it's amazing, right.
- 48:11Andrew Ward: I mean, do go and see the Minster, it's not like the Minster's incredible, right, but don't just see the Minster.
- 48:17Andrew Ward: Get back on the train and go to Edinburgh.
- 48:18Andrew Ward: What a shame.
- 48:20Andrew Ward: You have just missed 5,200 square miles of the fillet steak of England.
- 48:33Andrew Ward: So make sure you spend more days in Yorkshire.
- 48:36Andrew Ward: That's my parting tip.
- 48:40Tracy Collins: Perfect.
- 48:40Tracy Collins: Thanks so much, Andrew, for coming on the podcast again.
- 48:41Tracy Collins: It's always a joy to chat with you and hopefully if I get down to Yorkshire this year I will definitely pop in and say hi, it's always good to catch up.
- 48:50Andrew Ward: It's been an absolute pleasure, Tracey.
- 48:52Andrew Ward: Thank you very much.
- 48:55Tracy Collins: Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode of the UK Travel Planning Podcast.
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