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The Last of Us Special: Episode 2 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I welcome to Stephane
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  Speaker 1: Never Told your production of iHeart Radio, and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: our very special I'm sponsored by HBO Max mini series. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm outraged. I'm outraged by the way. You know, like
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  Speaker 1: I said before, we'll make it our own. Then it's
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  Speaker 1: It's true. You were very supportive in this, and I
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  Speaker 1: love you for it and thank you for it. Yes. So,
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  Speaker 1: this is our episode two of our nine part episode
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  Speaker 1: on the Last of Us show, which is on HBO Max.
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  Speaker 1: Um So, Samantha and I are planning on watching most,
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  Speaker 1: if not all of them together and then record ring
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  Speaker 1: our reactions, recaps thoughts about the episode that just aired.
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  Speaker 1: There are nine episodes um so. Right now we're on
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  Speaker 1: episode two, which is called Infected. So there will be
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  Speaker 1: spoilers for the first two episodes. Samantha is gonna help
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  Speaker 1: me rein it in you miraculously avoid spoilers for the
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  Speaker 1: whole game. Two games. I'm here for it. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of my friends have contacted me and said basically like,
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  Speaker 1: don't talk to me about it. You know I have
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  Speaker 1: talked to them about it, So you do. But if
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  Speaker 1: you don't understand, right, like you've never seen it, you're
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  Speaker 1: not going to really put things together. So now that
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  Speaker 1: they're watching it, they will start putting things together. Yes, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: That's what several of my friends have said, including Christina
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  Speaker 1: who is going on this journey with us, super producer Christina,
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  Speaker 1: who is watching along and somehow didn't take in any
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  Speaker 1: of the spoilers. So I'm very happy. But also thanks
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  Speaker 1: to super producer Christina, because for these nine weeks that
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  Speaker 1: this is airing, we're going to replace my Happy Hours,
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  Speaker 1: which come out every other week, UM, with these and
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna come out on Saturdays, so you can get
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  Speaker 1: prepared for the next episode that comes out on Sunday. UM.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit more work for Christina. UM.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you very much. We will go
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  Speaker 1: after this is over, We'll be going back to our
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  Speaker 1: regular scheduled program. Maybe there's something else we're going to
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  Speaker 1: jump into. We love change and we love trying anything new.
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  Speaker 1: We do we do um And if you know listening
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  Speaker 1: to this, you have any other ideas or things we
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  Speaker 1: could try, just let us know. We are on TikTok now.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the videos went up last week about
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  Speaker 1: the first episode. We did that episode was very haphazard.
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  Speaker 1: I think we decided to do it like right before. Right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So if it's that's a little chaotic, it was a
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  Speaker 1: little chaotic. Um. But now now we have a better
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  Speaker 1: idea of how it's gonna go. Now Samantha and I
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  Speaker 1: have like washed our faces and stuff. We actually brushed teeth,
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  Speaker 1: cold hair and things like that, hopefully, Although I will
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  Speaker 1: say my hair, I've been trying new things. I watched
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  Speaker 1: this YouTube with an Asian creator. She's so cute. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: just do this. Lies, I can't just do this. That
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  Speaker 1: doesn't happen for me. So I just look like I
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  Speaker 1: have like clown hair a little bit. You know what,
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  Speaker 1: It's better than what it was before? Is it? Does
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  Speaker 1: it look like what she had? No? Not at all.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna try so to that Asian creator. You're
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  Speaker 1: so cute, but it's not as simple. Yeah, well it
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  Speaker 1: looks you look good to me. Some I blend in
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  Speaker 1: the background, so it's it's fine. It's fine. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but I do you do you gotta sneep
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  Speaker 1: peak about how we normally look. I had my like
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  Speaker 1: comfy like lesser comfy, which just like a little thinner
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  Speaker 1: than the original Comfy and you were like so tired,
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  Speaker 1: but overexcited that was definitely our walk. And right now
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  Speaker 1: you are wearing an ode to Lost of Us shirt,
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  Speaker 1: the Lost of Us, the Lost of Us. Yes, so
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  Speaker 1: this shirt I think is going to come out. It's
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  Speaker 1: an Ellie. She wears it throughout most of the first game.
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  Speaker 1: I think in the next episode we're going to see
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  Speaker 1: this shirt. But if you haven't seen it, it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of a like Hawaiian style retro surf shirt. I usually
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  Speaker 1: wear it a dragon con and people recognize it. People
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  Speaker 1: do recognize it. Um, it's your low key cosplay. I yes,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, and I think you're correct. That's been
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  Speaker 1: my pandemic style because that's been your style. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm also throwing an ode because one of the things
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see it. One of
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  Speaker 1: the things that we do for each other for Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: We love very themed, very on point presence, and you
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  Speaker 1: I think this is the one I bought. Actually, you
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  Speaker 1: had bought a tumbler that was the last of Us themed,
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  Speaker 1: and then I also bought a tumblers to actually have
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  Speaker 1: you know, more tumblers at each other's places and this
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  Speaker 1: one has a butterfly. Yeah, so I'm gonna be talking
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  Speaker 1: about We're gonna be talking about and I am sipping
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  Speaker 1: from something that you also gave me, which is my
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  Speaker 1: infamous new favorite wine tumblers, so I can read fan
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  Speaker 1: fiction or write fan fiction without building it hopefully. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was the intent. I was like, I need to
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  Speaker 1: I need to get you a sippy cup for a bed,
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  Speaker 1: because I was saying like I would love to just
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  Speaker 1: relax in bed and do this, but the wine I
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  Speaker 1: got you. We got this here, yes, but yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into this right, Yeah, let's do it. Let's ste it.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna So we thought we would have Samantha give
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  Speaker 1: yes the recap and I don't even recap because I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna probably a little more succinct and less detail than you.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we were saying. Like in that level, as
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  Speaker 1: you get so excited and then you get caught up
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  Speaker 1: in like what's in the video games, which listeners, I
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  Speaker 1: may end up trying to video Annie watching an episode
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  Speaker 1: because it's quite delightful to see her react in the
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  Speaker 1: moment to these episodes. I may have to actually record
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  Speaker 1: this with your permission. Of course, but you're quite giddy.
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  Speaker 1: So no, no surprise to anyone. This episode was huge
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  Speaker 1: and he has a lot of predictions. We're not going
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  Speaker 1: to give those predictions because most likely they're going to
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  Speaker 1: be on point since she has played the games, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and so we're not going to do that. You have predictions, actually, Andy,
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  Speaker 1: and have predictions for the finale too, and how they're
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  Speaker 1: gon we won't. We won't tell you until after the fact.
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna be that cruel. So let's do a
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  Speaker 1: quick recap up before we begin. We see that Ellie,
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  Speaker 1: Joel and Tests are in an abandoned home, very picturesque scene.
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  Speaker 1: She's lying looks like on a meadow with a cute butterfly.
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  Speaker 1: And I have a lot of questions about these creatures,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, and how they are not infected. But okay,
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  Speaker 1: Joel and Tests have just found out that Ellie had
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  Speaker 1: been bitten but not quite infected, even though that little
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  Speaker 1: radar little detector did say she was infected, but she
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  Speaker 1: hadn't turned so they're very cautious, little wary. Joel wants
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  Speaker 1: to turn back, send send her on her way. If
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  Speaker 1: they kill her, great, if they don't, doesn't matter it does,
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  Speaker 1: it's not up to them. Test is like, no, this
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  Speaker 1: is about getting in the car. We have a mission,
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  Speaker 1: we need a battery. We gotta keep going. But Test
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  Speaker 1: is also very interested and Ellie and what she is about,
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  Speaker 1: so there's a lot of questions. She finally finds out
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  Speaker 1: the secret that Marlene is wanting her to go to
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  Speaker 1: a center, a firefly center with doctors who may be
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  Speaker 1: able to get a cure through Lee. So big secret,
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  Speaker 1: all right, whatever what not? Here we have Tests being
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  Speaker 1: all like monotone and tough and be like, this is
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  Speaker 1: about us. We only care about us. We're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: what we need for us. So we'll take you there,
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  Speaker 1: but if you twitch or anything, we're taking you out, essentially. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And so they're on the way. We have the fun
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  Speaker 1: line before they leave about sandwiches and Ellie, Ellie trying
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  Speaker 1: to get a gun. She'd be like, fine, I'll just
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  Speaker 1: throw sandwich at them. Hilarious. We love it, um And
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  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of memes about Oh, yes, she's
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  Speaker 1: definitely our Ellie because this kind of does track does
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  Speaker 1: very well. Tracked with it. Ellie of the video games, sarcastic,
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  Speaker 1: trying to be very tough, being stoic, little private, and jokey,
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  Speaker 1: very very jokey with her sarcasm. We stand. So they
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  Speaker 1: move on um and talk more about their past. There's
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  Speaker 1: a connection a little bit with Joel and Ellie at
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  Speaker 1: the hotel, and yes, I believe there is a hotel
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  Speaker 1: scene in the game. Correct, So this is really on
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  Speaker 1: a y'all When we say it's on point, they did
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  Speaker 1: a great job. So the hotel scene is pretty true.
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  Speaker 1: She gets really excited. Uh there is a swim scene.
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  Speaker 1: She does learn to swim later on right spoiler ahead
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  Speaker 1: because of things like this where she says I can't swim.
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  Speaker 1: Of course she can't swim. And then Joel is a
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  Speaker 1: smart like jumps in and it's just WASTEI She's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, like I'm supposed to know that. Very cute.
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  Speaker 1: They move on UM. He is very protective on heart.
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  Speaker 1: We saw that previously because he kind of has that
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  Speaker 1: flashback with his daughter. He even protected when she jumps
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  Speaker 1: from a corpse and he's right there helps her up.
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  Speaker 1: So you start to see you in a connection, but
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to still be gruff and push her away.
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  Speaker 1: They move on UM and we have that moment where
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  Speaker 1: test checks it out, which was also in the game
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  Speaker 1: one point y'all that she will, they go and see
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  Speaker 1: all the zombies essentially, I'm gonna call the zombies for
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  Speaker 1: now because at this point we haven't truly seen the Clicker.
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  Speaker 1: We've heard them an episode one, but we haven't seen it.
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  Speaker 1: And then they go through the museum, Boston Museum with
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  Speaker 1: all of the things, and we meet the Clickers, which
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  Speaker 1: BT dubs were the actual actors and the voice actors
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  Speaker 1: in the game. We love this, We love this, and
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  Speaker 1: the costumes are on point. Everything even the battle you
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  Speaker 1: played this, you played this scene, you all is incredible. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But they make it out finally, after a lot of shooting,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of beating down, a lot of scariness, being
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  Speaker 1: completely silent, and there is that in the game you
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  Speaker 1: have to be completely silent as well. Real good, they
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  Speaker 1: make it out. But oh and they make it to
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  Speaker 1: the checkpoint where they're supposed to take l a. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's dead. What has happened? Because it doesn't It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: the clickers. Right at this point, we know the clickers
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  Speaker 1: don't do this. It was more violent than that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So however, oh no, they step on the what are
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  Speaker 1: the tendrils, the tendril lines which all communicate with all
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  Speaker 1: of them, so they're all linked to this, which is
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  Speaker 1: the variation from the game. In the game, it's spores
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  Speaker 1: and this we have tendrils. So it alerts all of
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  Speaker 1: the zombies. They all come and don't know all the fighting.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, everything's happening in this getting bad. Oh good,
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  Speaker 1: We're okay. And then Tests has a change of heart
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  Speaker 1: because they're like, wait, this is where we were supposed
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  Speaker 1: to go and we didn't get anything we needed. We
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  Speaker 1: need to turn back all these things and Test is like, no,
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  Speaker 1: she's our only hope. At this point, she's like, I
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  Speaker 1: will hold them off. After she's convincing Joel, you have
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  Speaker 1: to take her. You have to take her. This is that,
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  Speaker 1: this is what we need. And then it turns out,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, Tests got bitten and by the way, Ellie
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  Speaker 1: got bit again, I think in this that did not
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  Speaker 1: happen in the game, so I was really kind of
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  Speaker 1: what what just happened? That happens to But she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: change as where obviously tests By is infected very quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Um so she stays behind while she gives them a
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  Speaker 1: chance to run away a lot of sadness. Ellie wants
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  Speaker 1: to stay. Uh Joel, Daddy Joel for daddy. Pedro Pascal
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  Speaker 1: as y'all want to say, grabs her runs away and
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  Speaker 1: we see the really horrific scene by the way of
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  Speaker 1: her making out with the tin drilled zombie turning clicker guy,
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  Speaker 1: and it was really horrific. Everybody was like, why did
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  Speaker 1: this have to happen? I was like, why did this
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  Speaker 1: have to happen? Um? And then she was able to
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  Speaker 1: after a very tense moment with the lighter. Constantly, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, why don't you just spark it? Just lay
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  Speaker 1: down in spark it. I don't understand that sparks would
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  Speaker 1: be enough, but whatever, I digress. She finally gets it,
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  Speaker 1: throws it, boom explodes, and next thing we see is
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  Speaker 1: Joel and Ellie are on their way to Portland's don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't Where are they go away? Where are they going? Annie?
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  Speaker 1: They're going to see Bill and Frank, who have been
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  Speaker 1: go take him to Fill and Frank. And we did
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  Speaker 1: get a preview. If you did say the preview, you
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: know Nick Offerman is coming into play as Bill, right, okay, um?
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  Speaker 1: And yes, this this this is all in part with
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  Speaker 1: the game. I forgot the beginning part which we do see.
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  Speaker 1: The scene of the beginning of the infection in Jakarta
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  Speaker 1: with the doctor is now infamously a name as now
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  Speaker 1: to saying bomb bomb everything. It is now a name um,
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  Speaker 1: which is really sad, which was shocking for all of us.
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  Speaker 1: And this scene is not a part of the game.
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  Speaker 1: So they actually pushed back even more to get the backstory,
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  Speaker 1: which we all very much enjoyed and was glad that
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  Speaker 1: they did that. Yeah, so next up possibly Bill and
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  Speaker 1: Frank and more deaths, probably all just all the guests
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have. Yeah, as I said, it's a grim story.
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  Speaker 1: I've had at least two friends text me like how
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  Speaker 1: did you do this? And I will have like my
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  Speaker 1: non spoiler predictions at the end of pros. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: really keeping this in mind. That was an excellent recaps
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  Speaker 1: about thank you. I tried, I'm trying to make you
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  Speaker 1: proud and then keep it in the scene. Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: And I also want to thank you because you were
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  Speaker 1: very kind and have hosted these. We did our Lunar
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  Speaker 1: New Year. I was very excited because even the last
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  Speaker 1: of us is not necessarily anything to do with the
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Lunar New Year. I wanted to do all the Korean
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  Speaker 1: traditions and we did it. We had the soup to
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  Speaker 1: book and I love that. So hopefully we'll have good luck,
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  Speaker 1: including good luck with these episodes being heard by the
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: right people to know that Annie obviously needs a podcast
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  Speaker 1: about Last of Us obviously ously right. Okay, So I
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of things, a lot of things I
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: want to talk about. First of all, there is something
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  Speaker 1: I want to do quick Like, like I said the
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  Speaker 1: last episode, we didn't know we were going to do this.
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  Speaker 1: Every time you probably heard like artifacts of that, so
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't being as detailed. A couple of things I
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: wanted to point out very quickly. Um. I forgot to
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  Speaker 1: mention that you start the game playing Sarah Um. So
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  Speaker 1: imagine like with how heartbreaking it was when you watched it,
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  Speaker 1: like it's you're playing Sarah Um and you don't as
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: I said in there, and I won't spoil it anymore,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't always play Joel. You do spend most
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  Speaker 1: of the game playing Joel, but you don't always play Joel.
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  Speaker 1: But that was one of the things that's really heartbreaking. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Something else that came up in this second episode. That's
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: the creators UM have mentioned about what they changed between
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  Speaker 1: adapting it from the game to TV was Joel's physicality,
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  Speaker 1: and so he's like, kind of I think he's hard
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  Speaker 1: of hearing in one here they have that line like
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  Speaker 1: they have bad knees UM at one point. So trying
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  Speaker 1: to be more um accurate, I guess, and that aspect
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  Speaker 1: of it, But you're definitely more realistic rights and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not quite tippy sit on my couch these days, um.
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  Speaker 1: But Joel mentions that he got a hairline fracture from
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  Speaker 1: punching that soldier over and over a game when he
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: had that flashback about Sarah UM in the first episode.
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  Speaker 1: So he says, you got a hairline. And I felt
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  Speaker 1: like it was supposed to be kind of symbolic of
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  Speaker 1: his leftover trauma from Sarah, because there is the scene
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  Speaker 1: where he helps Ellie up with his hand and then
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  Speaker 1: like jerks it away because it hurts. He has an
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  Speaker 1: hairline fracture. Also, just to scare you even more, court
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  Speaker 1: as steps is a real thing. Yeah, he real You
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  Speaker 1: probably have seen a lot of articles coming out about
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  Speaker 1: it from scientists. It is a real thing. It does,
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  Speaker 1: it has a history with insects, as they did in
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  Speaker 1: the first episode mentioned, so just leave that there you'd
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  Speaker 1: have nightmares about here you go, this could happen. I
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: did have a conversation with them Lauren over on Saver,
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  Speaker 1: who's very scientifically minded, and she started me talk about
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  Speaker 1: the game a lot um and she knows about quarter
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  Speaker 1: steps and she watched the first thing she said to
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  Speaker 1: me was like, well, they really went for it, didn't
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  Speaker 1: they Like, it's the tendril, y'all. That's a nightmare. It's
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  Speaker 1: so scary. Um. There's also I realized they have, but
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  Speaker 1: they do have a bunch of things from the second game,
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  Speaker 1: which I won't go and do too much, but one
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  Speaker 1: of them is this alarm sound that keeps coming up,
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  Speaker 1: and that is huge in the second one, so watch
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  Speaker 1: out for that. As long as the butterflies, moths and fireflies,
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  Speaker 1: those are big symbols and motifs. Well. So you've seen
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  Speaker 1: the butterflies a lot with Sarah and now with Ellie
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned one, and then the firefive's obviously, and
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  Speaker 1: the moss I think will come in. They'll come in later,
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  Speaker 1: but something else to look forward to. I did want
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to talk about the opening scene. Moving into episode two, now, fully,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they've really done a great job with
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  Speaker 1: the cold opens, which aren't in the game, but they
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  Speaker 1: kind of established how dire this is. Uh. And so
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: in this one, first of all, the whole flower Fan
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  Speaker 1: theory turn out to be correl. Yes, it's verified through
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  Speaker 1: the doctor and the military at Jakarta, yes, which we
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  Speaker 1: mentioned in the previous episode. But I did love that episode.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was like, it was horrifying. And when
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: we were watching it, when they're examining the body, we
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: thought it was gonna like snap her mouth. I thought
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: she wouldn't get to me too, me too, But I
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: liked that it didn't. And I liked the ominous like yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: bomb bomb everything, um, and then her kind of crying
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: and saying, I just want to go home and be
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: with my family. Uh. And then I noticed in my
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: like fifth three watch, I watch this so many times already.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: It spread so quickly because it's nine, it's September in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Jakarta when she does that, and the in the first
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: episode with what happens with Joel and Sarah, that's September, yes,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: And now my birthday, which is also September, is always
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: she literally says happy birthday. It's last of us day
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: in the world. It's quite funny. Well you know that's
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: about right, that's about right. Yeah, but it just reread
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: so fast like that's that's terrifying. Yeah. And then I
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: have a couple of themes for this episode that I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk about. One is, as we mentioned, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: think in the first episode there wasn't that much of Ellie.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: She was introduced, um, but she wasn't in it that much.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: This episode had a lot more of her, of her
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: character and seeing more about her um. As you said,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: she's very sarcastic. Um, she's funny. She's kind of like
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a dichotomy of like childish innocence and curiosity but also
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: like cursing. It has seen violence and yeah, which is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: throughout the game, and very very spot on with with
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: her character. I do think they did a really good
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: job of establishing like how important she is, perhaps better
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: than they did in the game, because in the game
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you're kind of like, oh, yeah, I mean it's important,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: but in this they're like, there's no vaccine, there's no medicine,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and then they have her like maybe she could be
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to cure for all of this and how how horrible
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: it is. Um So, I think they did a really
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: good job with that when she talks about how she
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: was bitten, which you'll see more of. Um they didn't
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: do that in the first game, but it is a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: good reminder that she was like a fourteen year old
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: child who's grown up in kind of a military school, right,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and she wanted to go see what I'm all was like.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: And there are a couple of scenes throughout where she
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: gets curious about what life was like before and kind
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: of plummix by like, Oh, you were going to go
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: see these movies or you were worried about your weight
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: or all of these things, and it just doesn't make
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: sense to her, right, And like again her interest in
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the hotel, the whole scene of being like, did you
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: stay at one of these? But that's a novelty and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I liked his the response, this is out of my
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: pay right now, we're getting goodn't afford this place, which
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: is like, yeah, I get that, but yeah, I think
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it's really right on with our character. And I know
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: there's a conversation about Bella Ramsay being this character, and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like she's kind of taking it on her
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: own but still is really on point with the game.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: So her childlike characters, her anger, her stoicness, That's exactly
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: what I remember in her trying to get to know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Like that whole thing when she's trying to ask all
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the questions with Joel kind of was on point with
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the game as well, because she wants to know so
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: many things. She's trying to learn some things. Her wanting
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: a gun, that's that was a whole theme throughout as well.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So I feel like it was really on point, uh
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: in getting her established as this I want to be tough,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but I'm very curious and I'm still a child right
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: right because she's never been outside, like she said that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: in the first episode, and it almost like gave them
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: away because she's never been outside the quarantine zone the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: q z UM and so like the scenery was all yes,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: as you said, spot on in the game, but her
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: kind of in wonderment of these buildings that have collapsed
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and like seeing this greenery in this light, and y'all
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: when that scenery popped up Annie and then the prisman,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Like that was the reaction of the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: scenery because it was so on point and it was
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: so grand and it's filming and the way they filmed it,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: but like, yes, the reaction was yes, so many people
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: texted me about the museum because they were like, this
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: is exact. Oh my god, I'm getting like chills. Yes,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I know. Also, I'm not gonna say much more about this,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: but Ellie' knife is important. That probably doesn't surprise you. Um,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: but her doing a little tricks with her knife behind
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the scenes, remember a little little peak, can't. Yes, I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: didn't think it was interesting when they go through the
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: hotel and all those discordant notes happened on piano when
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Joel and Ellie are trying to like connect or communicate,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: because I feel like they are. He's starting to see
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the world through her eyes a little bit, because she
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: has a couple of moments where he's just taken it
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: back by her view, like when she's like, oh, look
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: at this. You can't deny this view, and he's kind
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: of like what because he doesn't her. He said he
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: she's weird. Yes, yes, yes, but it's like they're trying
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: to find some common ground and connect but it's not
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: there yet. Yes, which brings us to tests, Oh my god,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: they did change your story quite a bit. And it's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: funny because I've heard, you know, gamer is going to
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: be gamers and they're like to be mad about things,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: but people were kind of mad about it. I thought
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: it was pretty good. Um, I like, I always liked
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: about tests. Unfortunately, there was so many characters in the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: In these games, you don't know them for very long,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: or you don't get to know them in depth. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean they die or anything. It's just
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: kind of the nature of the game. But I always
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: loved about her that she was. She was like Joel,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: but as you said in the last one, she's much
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: more kind of like even killed, cool headed, responsible, And
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: so when this thing happens with Ellie, she is the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: one in the game and in the show who's like, Okay,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: we've made this decision and kind of makes an effort
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to maybe not bond with Ellie, but like get to
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: know Ellie, like talks to her, answers her questions. Yeah,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: in a way that Joel does not. Joel is very
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: like right right, and she and she talks about the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: whole mall scene, and she's a man, you got some
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: balls on you, like, that's what she says to Ellie,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: which Elie texas a compliment obviously. Um, but that level
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of non fear of Ellie, which is obviously changing as
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: she is growing and seeing more and more Tests admires
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and obviously sees that as a strength for her, but
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: also sees her as a child China needing to protect her,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: right Yeah, and he is very protective of her. She
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: also has that scene where she's like, I'm going to
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: talk to you like an adult, but is protective and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I think pretty quickly has a respect for her, like
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: they have, they bond, they do bond, and Ellie really
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: respected Tests and Tests dying does not leave her quickly,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: which is one of the things I do love about
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the game is like those things Linger, you can see
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the trauma throughout. Um that is also a theme because
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: as a reminder, but one of the things I do
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: enjoy about Testa's character as well is that she when
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: she realizes she's going to die, she's the one that's like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: this could be real, Like this Ellie could be the cure,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: she could be the back seed. We've done some terrible things.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: This might be like a way for redemption or something.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: But she uses like whereas I think Joel would very
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: much be like, well it's over and give up. She
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: was like, no, we have to see this through. We
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: have to see this through, and kind of offering that
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: leadership and using that like still having hope, even though
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: from what we've seen of her largely she's kind of like, yeah,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: where people, Joel, we're not good people, right right? She
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: does say said things right right, she does. She is
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: more and the scene versus what happens in the game.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: She is more like the line safe who you can
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: save that's unique to the show. She's much more like,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you know, you've got to We've got to see this
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: as far as it can go. If you care about
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: me at all, you will do this for me, this
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: last thing. And she does have like some of my
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: favorite lines that they kept in there. I like how
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: she reveals the bite and says oops, right um. This
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: also was very much changed how she died versus in
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the game versus the show, it was pretty changed. And
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: this was one of the things where we saw, like
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that kiss, the very disturbing kiss. They that was one
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: of the big things they changed was how it spreads
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and how they communicate. So as you said, like in
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the game, you don't have to worry about like tendrils.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the they're called runners. The regular zombies will swarm.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: But that's more because if they hear sound, they will come.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: This brings us to the clickers. Of the clickers are
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: so terrifying. In the game. There was audible screaming. The
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: audience screwed twice. Actually it was so but it's so scary. Um.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But one of the most diabolical things about this game
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: is when you first me to clicker number one. They're
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: not easy to kill, and they can hear you, like
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: if you step on glass, if you move too quickly,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: they can hear you. But runners and so called regular
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: zombies can see you. So you've got a problem because
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: one group can see you but can't hear too well,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and the other ones you can hear everything you do
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: but can't see you. Strategy, you're gonna be smart. Um.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: But they were. They were very well done. The sound
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: was excellent, so one point scary scary. It was scary
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: like it made me jump. I didn't scream, but it
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: made me jump for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And the costuming
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: was great. The movements of the actors were right there
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: with the movements of the game as well, like the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: hiding and the ducking and the crawling and the rolling.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: It was as in the game. When um people play
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: this is also why I can't play games. I don't
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: know how to do all that. What what are these buttons?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. The scene where like Joel is like
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: trying to like hold his flashlight in between his like
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: his chin and his shoulder and he's trying to get
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the AMMO and the gun, and then the camera moves
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and the clickers right next to him. So good because
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it's true, if you could be quiet, they could be
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: right there. You just have to hope they don't accidentally
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: turn your way anyway. But um, yeah, I people were
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: very excited about it, looking forward to if you played
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the game, and that was one of the that's one
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: of the fun things. It's like, if you haven't played it,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you don't know they're called clickers, and I thought they
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: did such a good job of when you see Joel
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and Tessa's fear about, oh, there might be clickers in
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: this building spot on spot on UM. I also loved
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Ellie's kind of joking lot Mine, where she's like, so
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: there aren't here's zombies that throws s four packets at
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: you and in tests like god, I hope not. And
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: then she says and there aren't ones that have their
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: heads split open and can hear like bats. And they
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: go both go like yes, um okay. So in the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: final wrap up of this, I did want to read
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: we got some We've gotten some messages about this, so
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: thank you, you love it, um, and I want to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: read this one from Steph who wrote, greetings from Edmonton,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: or as you know it, post Apocalypse of Boston. I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: just watched episode two of the Last of Us, which
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: was partly filmed in Edmonton. I never expected the city
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: to be so recognizable. The first outdoor and scene was
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: shot in front of my current workplace. My building is
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: hidden by a pile of rubble. I remember watching them
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: film it last year, and they eventually walked past my
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: old building on the way to the State House a
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: k a. Alberta Legislature. If you're wondering, the short way
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: between these buildings would take about ten minutes to walk.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: My partner and I got such a kick pointing out
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: local landmarks as we've watched it. If you are ever
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: in town, the legislature is worth a visit. It is
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: on the bank of a river surrounded by a park.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: It's actually beautiful when it's not covered in zombies. Yeah. Yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: We've had a lot of stuff filmed in Atlanta, and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: one of the fun things is to see if you
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: recognize and know exactly where they're located. I'm like, oh,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that's that ridge and that's that lane. Yet it is
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: really only imagine. Yes, yes, it did look beautiful. Of
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the zombies. Yeah, the view was lovely. There were so
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: many scenes that I of course was like, there it is.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: It's that um yes, yes, So here's my non spoiler
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: things to look forward to. One would be the bloater
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Bloaters and if you watch the after scene with all
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: of the directors, you may have actually understand what we're
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: talking of. Your might you might dude. Anotherre is we're
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: gonna I think we're going to be introduced with some
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: queer storylines in the next one. I think the next
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: one is going to be amazing, And I also think
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be the biggest departure from the game actual gameplay,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: because that story does exist, but it's easily you have
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to do. You have to do the extras. I know
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: during your play through with my partner, you made him
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: go through the all that I did, go to this building,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and go to that building and turn that note. And
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: by the way, in the game, there's an ode to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Supernatural is weird? There is, Yes, there is um but yeah, I,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: as I told you, kind of like perhaps very very nerdly.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's been fun to watch something that I've
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: loved and to see it adapted so well and to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: have these kind of new things in it where I'm like, oh,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I'm really loving, like I said, these cold opens, I'm
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: loving the changes that they did. The acting is amazing,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the teen reason amazing thing, the clickers so good, so good,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: so good. Yes, So I can't. I can't emphasize this enough.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: We are not sponsored by them, just to clarify once again,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that we don't love it, and
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean we'll ever stop talking about it, because
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Annie will never stop. You can't make it. I can't,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I can't stop. I have so many thoughts, and I
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: think that the next one's I'm so excited. I'm so excited,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: so that popcorn ready. Yes, thanks for sharing this with me, Samantha,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: and love it you listeners as well. As I said,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I hope uh. Plenty of people have written in, including
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Stuff who said I've never played the game, but I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: enjoyed listening to you talk about it, and I'm enjoying
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: the show, So I hope that even if you're not
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: super into it, you can enjoy this um a little bit.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: But yes, we will see you next time. As I said,
• 34:58
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• 35:02
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• 35:08
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