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Almost Famous OG: A Bachelorette NO MORE with Jillian Harris · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hi everybody,
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  Speaker 1: It's Trista and Bob for the Almost Famous OG podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm so excited about today. I love this guest,
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  Speaker 1: and I know everyone out there does too. She's such
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  Speaker 1: a fan favorite. She truly is like a success story
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  Speaker 1: in every sense of the word. In that Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 1: the show didn't work out for her, but she found
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  Speaker 1: her true love. She went on to do amazing things.
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  Speaker 1: Written to two cookbooks, she's written a children's book, she's
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  Speaker 1: birth two babies, she's about to get married, she has
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  Speaker 1: success stories out the wazoo, her Jillibox. She's done some
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  Speaker 1: home improvement shows that I know everyone has heard of
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  Speaker 1: Extreme Makeover, her Home Edition, love at her list it,
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  Speaker 1: and gosh, I just I feel like everyone in Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: Nation just looks up to this beauty and this mom
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  Speaker 1: because she's so real. She shares everything with everybody, and
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  Speaker 1: I truly feel like if you don't look up to her,
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  Speaker 1: you should, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I agree that she's super relatable too, Like you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you actually meet Jilly, she is so sweet and
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  Speaker 2: funny and unassuming and yeah, you know she's She's really
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  Speaker 2: all those things that you would hope she would be,
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  Speaker 2: and then then some you know, then you meet Justin
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  Speaker 2: and you know, you meet her family, and it's like
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  Speaker 2: she's doing it right, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that I think you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: That's a beautiful introduction to our guest who's joining us today,
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  Speaker 2: who we are very very excited.
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  Speaker 3: She's not an easy get, by the way, right, I
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  Speaker 3: mean to busy. He's busy. She's busy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the first option was like a month or
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  Speaker 1: two maybe two months from now, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: well that's far away, so I don't know if anything
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  Speaker 1: will come up, but yeah, put her on. But luckily
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  Speaker 1: we got her. She you know her as Jillian Harris.
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  Speaker 1: She was on Jason Mesnick season and then she was
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette season five. So welcome Jillian Harris.
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  Speaker 3: Jilly Bean.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, so good to see both of you.
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  Speaker 3: So good to see you too.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, Thanks for coming.
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  Speaker 1: It was hard to get to you. You're a busy lady.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we're getting married finally this summer, and we
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  Speaker 4: have a new puppy.
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  Speaker 1: What I saw, that's true, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: Look at that little beauty.
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  Speaker 4: Oh you are pressious new kitten, and the kids are
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  Speaker 4: out of school and I'm still working, so it's been
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  Speaker 4: a bit crazy this year, this summer.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, so, well, we were just talking about you,
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  Speaker 2: how you have always been so sweet and just such
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful breath of fresh air.
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  Speaker 3: And then of.
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  Speaker 2: Course the slippery goose he's out there, he's doing his thing,
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  Speaker 2: which we all love. Justin and I mean, congratulations on
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  Speaker 2: the upcoming nuptials.
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  Speaker 4: Took me thirteen years to really be sure. See this
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  Speaker 4: is the wrong, this is wrong with me on the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 4: You have like thirteen days. I need like thirteen years.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I.
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  Speaker 1: Will say, though, you're going to give yourself some grace
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  Speaker 1: because you guys were supposed to get married during COVID, Rightyeah.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to. I wanted to cancel before COVID, like
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  Speaker 4: I was the happiest COVID ride. I was like, God,
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  Speaker 4: Hans pandemic, I could cancel my.
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  Speaker 1: So before you came on, I introduced you and and
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  Speaker 1: I just said, if people don't look up to you,
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  Speaker 1: they should, because girl, you are so freaking amazing, like
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  Speaker 1: so successful, so someone that I truly honestly look up
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  Speaker 1: to from the franchise and just a normal life as
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  Speaker 1: a friend. But I you are just I mean a
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  Speaker 1: force to be reckoned with mom soon to be wife,
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  Speaker 1: but a fiance up to that, and not just a
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  Speaker 1: human mom. But you had to And I'm so sorry
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  Speaker 1: about Nacho, but yeah, of course. But now this cute
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  Speaker 1: little baby chero, Oh my gosh, I'm so glad. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. But we haven't written three books and do
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  Speaker 1: a blog and have a super successful you done, I know,
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  Speaker 1: but I just.
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  Speaker 4: Do other things. But thank you so much, you know. Yeah. Always,
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  Speaker 4: Like I always tell my mom and dad, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: we're only on this planet once. Like, I got a
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  Speaker 4: lot to do. Like there's no guarantee that we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: get reincarnated or go to heaven or all these other
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  Speaker 4: things we're talking. But I want to make sure I
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  Speaker 4: do all the things I need to do in my
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  Speaker 4: short time on this planet.
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  Speaker 1: So well, you're getting a lot of it done.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you are.
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  Speaker 2: You're getting some mileage're getting your steps in, as they say,
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's pretty great.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, wait, how old have you guys been? How long
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  Speaker 4: has this blog been? Uh? Going on? For her?
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  Speaker 2: So the almost famous uh, the almost famous things started
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  Speaker 2: with Ben and Ashley, and then iHeart and Sugarman approached
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  Speaker 2: us to do the almost famous ogs where we would start.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we weren't so much about the current events, right,
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  Speaker 2: We were a little bit more about some stuff that's
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  Speaker 2: that's had some time to see, some.
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  Speaker 3: Real deals.
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  Speaker 2: So it's been a lot of fun because you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've touched base with so many people that we've met
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  Speaker 2: over the years and you know, just loved from the
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  Speaker 2: show and from all the other things that they've done.
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  Speaker 2: But how many years just I mean, we got to
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  Speaker 2: be a few years in by now, right what three years.
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  Speaker 1: And I was literally just telling someone about it. They
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  Speaker 1: were like, oh, tell me about the podcast, and I
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's been more than because we've moved
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  Speaker 1: into our house in a year and a half ago.
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  Speaker 1: It's been at least a year before that, so it
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  Speaker 1: almost three years, maybe four years. I don't know something
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so out of touch with podcasts, And it's so
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  Speaker 4: funny because I do a lot of I'm a guest
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  Speaker 4: on a lot of podcasts. People always say I sh
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  Speaker 4: have my own podcast, but I just it's just never happened.
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  Speaker 4: But I know, don't take offense. But I tried to
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  Speaker 4: listen to podcasts, but I think I have a very
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  Speaker 4: undiagnosed extreme case of ADHD, and so I can't even
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  Speaker 4: listen to you to like justin, he knows that whatever
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  Speaker 4: he has to say that he has to get it
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  Speaker 4: out in like thirty seconds otherwise, like looking even.
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  Speaker 1: My staff, is that one of the secrets to your relationship?
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  Speaker 1: You just he knows.
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  Speaker 4: It's the secret as to why it's taken us a
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  Speaker 4: wone to get married. Even our staff they joke that
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  Speaker 4: if I'm on to call for more than thirty minutes
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  Speaker 4: that I start shopping on anthropology. So anyways, I'm not uh.
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  Speaker 4: I we get invited to some podcast too, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, is this fake? Is this real?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know?
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  Speaker 4: Anyways, I was like, yes, I'm in I know.
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  Speaker 1: I do. I actually wrote Caitlin a thing because she's
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  Speaker 1: good friends with Christian Cavaliery.
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  Speaker 4: I got invited to this one to me too.
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  Speaker 1: When I sent it to her and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: is this legit? Can you ask her? Because I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's legit and I need to confirm And she
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  Speaker 1: said no, those things come all the time, So don't
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  Speaker 1: always sends people.
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  Speaker 4: My two favorites, Chelsea Handler and Kelsey the what's her name,
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  Speaker 4: the sister, the sister in law.
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  Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's yes, yes, yes, and my was like.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you got invited and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: this is fake, Like that's so I know. But we've
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  Speaker 4: got each other. We've got each other. That's all.
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  Speaker 3: Use us as your mouth piece. We got you covered.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're totally getting into the wedding. We're totally getting
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  Speaker 1: into the wedding. And we have some bachelor obviously related
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  Speaker 1: questions current relations, but we want to get into back
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  Speaker 1: in the day. So obviously you came in I think
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  Speaker 1: third on Jason seasoned right, and then you went on
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  Speaker 1: to be Bachelorette and you and Edward together, and you
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  Speaker 1: come off the show and hello, tabloids. We all know it.
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  Speaker 1: We're all on the cover of tabloids. And the tabloids
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  Speaker 1: were a thing back then. It really isn't a thing now.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like you walk into a grocery store
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  Speaker 1: and your your face is plastered all over the every
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  Speaker 1: single magazine and all that people are saying is that
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  Speaker 1: he has girlfriends that are not you and help chaos like, like,
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  Speaker 1: describe to us how that was coming off of the
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  Speaker 1: show and having to see all those tabloids and probably
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  Speaker 1: maybe even finding out tell us finding out about the
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  Speaker 1: girlfriends through the tabloids.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I have to be careful because the last time
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  Speaker 4: I spoke about Ed was when we came together, remember
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  Speaker 4: the Bachelorette reunion. Yes, I felt like it was fairly complimentary,
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  Speaker 4: like I gave the cold work based on what everybody.
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  Speaker 4: But I got a scathing email from him, like I'm
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  Speaker 4: talking like a ten pager, and I was like, wait
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  Speaker 4: a second, weren't you the one that was terrible to me? Like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you get to tell me what I
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  Speaker 4: can say or not say. But anyways, I just didn't respond.
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  Speaker 4: And I honestly wish him the best. He's got a
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  Speaker 4: beautiful wife and a beautiful baby. Oh my gosh, I
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  Speaker 4: sometimes creep because the baby's so cute. I got to
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  Speaker 4: see what she looks like and how she's growing up. Anyways,
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  Speaker 4: so I wish him no harm like I, but like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that was this very very traumatizing time. And to his
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  Speaker 4: to his defense, being on the show is a mind,
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  Speaker 4: it's a total mind. And he asked to be on
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  Speaker 4: the show, he got recruited, and he did have girlfriend
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  Speaker 4: uh at the time, which, by the way, I've had
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  Speaker 4: I've had multiple I've did multiple people before too. That
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  Speaker 4: doesn't make him a monster. But I think that he
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  Speaker 4: just thought it was going to be a fun adventure.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that he thought that I was going
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  Speaker 4: to fall in love with him and that he might
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  Speaker 4: have feelings for me. And I think that he was
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  Speaker 4: just like holy and as you know, once you get
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  Speaker 4: to the end, your life has just exploded, Like you
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  Speaker 4: don't even recall what was happening back home because you're
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  Speaker 4: being jetted everywhere, You're at these fancy mansions, you're dealing
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  Speaker 4: with big wigs at ABC, you're on you're on the
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  Speaker 4: Ellen Show. Like it is so hard to stay grounded.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't fault him for any of that, but
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. Just the whole scenario was so traumatic
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  Speaker 4: because in my little Jilly Hart, I started to cry.
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  Speaker 4: But like I just wanted I just wanted somebody to
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  Speaker 4: love me, and I had like had such I just
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  Speaker 4: wanted to have I wanted I wanted a relationship, and
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  Speaker 4: I wanted babies, and I'd been a heartbroken so many times,
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  Speaker 4: and I was sort of like, what is wrong with me?
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  Speaker 4: I know what's wrong with me. I'm thirty forty five.
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  Speaker 4: I know it was wrong with me, but anyways, I
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  Speaker 4: just didn't see it back then, and I was just like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm actually writing a memoir. I'm writing a book like
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  Speaker 4: from the Times a little Girl, and I've really been
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  Speaker 4: able to unpack some of the like trauma from my
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  Speaker 4: whole life. And I think when that happened, I just
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  Speaker 4: felt like failed again. Like I felt like I'm always
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  Speaker 4: looking even though my parents did their best, like that
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  Speaker 4: was hard. So I just felt like my whole life
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  Speaker 4: I could never had that one person that would just
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  Speaker 4: like take care of me. And I just was convinced
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  Speaker 4: that Ed was the one, even though looking back, no
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  Speaker 4: he wasn't, but like I just I had convinced myself,
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  Speaker 4: and so when that happened, I was like, great, here
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  Speaker 4: I am again, just humiliated again, failure again. So it
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  Speaker 4: was just embarrassing and it just sucked. And it's not
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  Speaker 4: really Ed's fault. It's just we put ourselves in that position.
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  Speaker 4: He had a life before, I had trauma and heartaches
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  Speaker 4: that he didn't know about before. And actually the show
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have talked about this
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  Speaker 4: with any of your past clients, but they really give
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  Speaker 4: you such a vigorous psychological testing before you go on
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  Speaker 4: the show. I don't know if they still don't do that.
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  Speaker 4: But after my psychological testing, which is like a test
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  Speaker 4: a book like this big, they actually brought me a
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  Speaker 4: psychologist and they said that they want me on the
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  Speaker 4: show because they feel that I would be good entertainment
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  Speaker 4: and I have all the qualities they're looking for besides
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  Speaker 4: the ones that Mike Flais doesn't like, which is a
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  Speaker 4: raspy voice, Canadian short, no boobs, you know. But other
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  Speaker 4: than that. Other than that, they wanted me on the show.
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  Speaker 4: But they were really worried about my emotional capacity if
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  Speaker 4: I were going to be heartbroken, because somewhere in those
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  Speaker 4: psychological tests they saw that I was very fragile. And
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  Speaker 4: when I don't know if I'm allowed to say all this,
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  Speaker 4: but when Jason dumped me, they actually flew that same
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  Speaker 4: psychiatrist psychologist to New Zealand to bring me home because
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  Speaker 4: they were so afraid of how heartbroken I would be.
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  Speaker 1: That is the first time I've ever heard that.
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  Speaker 2: Home that's actually can I honestly, this is like one
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  Speaker 2: time where I will actually defend the show a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: That's amazing that they did that.
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  Speaker 4: That would have been expensive, like first, yeah, yeah, that
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  Speaker 4: would have been very expensive to hire her, to pay her,
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  Speaker 4: to pay for her room and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So anyways, it was very traumatic. But I do say
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  Speaker 4: everything happens for a reason. I always talked to Justin
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  Speaker 4: and the kids about maintaining an abundance mindset, and when
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  Speaker 4: you have an abundance mindset, you really have to believe
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  Speaker 4: that even the shittiest times are there to build you
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  Speaker 4: up and set you up for success. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it sucked, and I was like after that moment, I
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  Speaker 4: think I was like ninety two pounds and I was
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  Speaker 4: very unwell. But I'm stronger because of it. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think I just I have more
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  Speaker 4: compassion because of it, and I have no regrets. I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't picked somebody else. I would have had fun read
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  Speaker 4: and I had so much fun in the time that
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  Speaker 4: it lasted, Like when we were good, we had a
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  Speaker 4: good time. Yeah he was a funny, fun guy, Like yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know he was.
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  Speaker 3: I love your attitude, Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 2: Too, because you can you can take you know, And
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  Speaker 2: I do think sometimes the show puts so much pressure
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  Speaker 2: on the success of that relationship, and you know, the
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  Speaker 2: Tristan and Ryan's of this world are very few far between, right,
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  Speaker 2: I Mean when you look at.
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  Speaker 3: The track record of the success.
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  Speaker 2: Of the show in that mindset of what you know
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  Speaker 2: the success would be, there's very few people. And it's
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  Speaker 2: like it is kind of hard because you come through
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  Speaker 2: it thinking that you're a loser. I mean I went
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  Speaker 2: I went through the same thing, not as bad. I
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  Speaker 2: mean I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like for me, it was one of the
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  Speaker 3: those things.
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  Speaker 2: Where I was not expecting it to work, and then
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  Speaker 2: when it would all of a sudden be working, I'd
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  Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, this isn't this isn't gonna last,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: Or whatever. I almost was like self sabotaging totally.
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  Speaker 2: But I can I can totally relate to that because
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, especially when you come off of that
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  Speaker 2: and having the history that you had had previously, walking
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  Speaker 2: into the grocery store and seeing, you know, seeing your
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  Speaker 2: face on the cover of a tabloi with a rip
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  Speaker 2: down the middle does not do you any favors.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know there was a rip down the middle
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  Speaker 4: good memory.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well I had.
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  Speaker 2: The same cover, so I remember, unfortunately a couple of
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  Speaker 2: times for me.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of times on that you know what Ryan season.
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  Speaker 4: It was so much more wholesome back then, Like I
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  Speaker 4: think it's gotten a little bit, you know, raunchy or
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  Speaker 4: whatever and social media media and whatnot. Yeah. So, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, Bobby said something about like being a loser.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things I tell the kids all the
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  Speaker 4: time is we're all we're all losers. Can't be winter.
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  Speaker 4: Can't be winter all the time, Like you can't be
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  Speaker 4: weird moments. You're just going to be a loser. And
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  Speaker 4: you's got to sit with that and not find a
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  Speaker 4: way to make it funny.
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  Speaker 1: So true, humor saves everything. It does, unless unless you're
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  Speaker 1: in the midst of a broken heart, and then you
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  Speaker 1: need a psychologist. Yes, I'm glad you had that. You
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  Speaker 1: Did you stay in touch, like with that psychologist? Did
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  Speaker 1: you meet with them after the show?
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  Speaker 4: Never saw her ever again, Probably shouldn't have. But my
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  Speaker 4: whole Canadian American thing was always very difficult for me
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  Speaker 4: because I actually the show had me on as a
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  Speaker 4: contestant without actually figuring out like what if I won?
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  Speaker 4: Because once I once ED and I were engaged, and
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  Speaker 4: I went to go move to Chicago, like not even
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  Speaker 4: knowing anything about immigration. I got a border by somebody
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  Speaker 4: who knew me on the show and she's like, no,
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  Speaker 4: you're not moving to Chicago. And I'm like, what do
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  Speaker 4: you mean. She's like, yeah, I'm wait for you to
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  Speaker 4: come through. She's like, you need to be married, you
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  Speaker 4: need to. So ABC had no choice. The had to
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  Speaker 4: hire an immigration lawyer to the actually did a really
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  Speaker 4: good job. They had an immigration lawyer and invested thousands,
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  Speaker 4: tens of thousands of dollars to make sure that I
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: could actually live with Ed. And I had to find
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: then remember I found a job on Extreme Makeover Home
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Edition and they kind of sponsored me improved that there
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: was nobody else like me in the United States.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: So what that that basically got you a work visa.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: That got me a visa. Yeah, and I may famed
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: that work visa for just up until like before COVID, But.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Now I, wow, that's awesome. You're done.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: You're just going to travel here whenever you need to.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: You don't need via exactly. Yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So back to ed you obviously got engaged
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: you I had the ring. We're interested to know what
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: happened with the ring because we know like Ali got
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to keep her ring after calling off the engagement, and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: like Estella, she sold her ring after her and Bob
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: broke up and I was just talking to her our producer.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd want to keep the ring
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: if I was not engaged to the guy, so I
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: would totally sell it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we have it downstairs and or say you do wow.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: And here's why I wanted to keep it. That moment
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: signified such a huge moment in my life. It signified heartbreak,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: it signified growth, it signified like a huge step in
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: my career. I don't think I would have found Justin
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: without that, like that experience. So I don't know what
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: we're ever going to do with the ring. But what
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I told ABC is I want to you to loot
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: me in with Neil Lane, and I want to see
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: from Neil that he actually wants the ring back. If
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Neil actually wants the ring back, then fine, I'll give
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: it back. But if he doesn't, I'll pay for it
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: or you can. I'm down to rip it out of
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: my cold hard hands, Like, it's just like who actually
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: wants the ring back?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Who actually?
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: And they know that I tried so hard to make
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: that relationship work and it wasn't because I didn't want
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: it make it work. I'm like, just like at least yeah, yeah,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: oh yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: So I had always heard and I don't know if
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: you've heard this, Trista or if you've heard this, Jillian,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: but that they called it the Guinea rule, and.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: That if because after Istellas sauld it and made a
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: lot of money off of it. By the way they.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Made the Guinea rule that you had to keep you
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: had to stay together.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I thought it was at least a year to keep
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: the ring.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Otherwise you had to give it back, and they have
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: a file cabinet full of them.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: By my time, it was three years because Ed and
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: I had been together for a year. Yeah, I don't
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: want it three years?
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So did you end up paying for it?
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: They didn't make me pay for it? No, but they did.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: They didn't.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: He did. Who wasn't It wasn't Rob Mills. It was
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: the other lawyer. I think he was also a raw
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I think it was Aylor lawyer. Anyway, he did send
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: me a huge thing of what I can and can't
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: do with it, and to me, I didn't really care
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: at that point, and it's kind of ugly and it
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: was kind of looks like a football ring offense to
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Neil Lane, I don't know. And we have enough jewelry
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: now that it's like, I think we'll just meet as
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: a family heirloom. Mummy did this crazy thing, and this
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: is the ring from that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: That's funny, you know, it's funny. I have my engagement
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: ring that was a Harry Winston in my safe too,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I'll just keep it and if
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Blakeslee wants it, or we want to make it into
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a necklace someday, or Max wants to give it to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: somebody he asked to Mary, Great, then he can do that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those are the days. Well, I'm glad you
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: got to keep that because you deserved it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, you were and we've often.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I think we met for the first time at the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Janner wedding.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right at the Jade and Tanner wedding.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: I just was looking of that reason.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: It's so fun and I love that big group picture
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: of all of us.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was so funny.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: We came away from that in Canyon, my wife was like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I just feel like Jillian Harris and I would be
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: best friends.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I know.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I was pregnant. You know I was pregnant?
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Then yes, No, I didn't know that.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: No, I don't know if I was pregnant. So I
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: wasn't drinking at the Janner wedding. Now you think Kenyan
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: loved me, then how about billionaires drinking? Because I am
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: a whole new level of like, I'm like jillionaires times
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: one hundred.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Times one hundred. Oh my god, that's so awesome. Well
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: we'll have to see that. We'll have to see that. Yes,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I'd like that very much.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, so one of the biggest pieces of
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: news lately in Bachelor Nation. Oh, before I get to that,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: do you watch the show anymore?
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: I don't. And it's not because I don't like it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: It's my ADHD. I don't know. I think I don't
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: know when this started. And two our kids are at
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: this age that first of all, we have to put
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: them to bed still, this is so embarrassing, but they're
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: almost nine and seven, and we stopped to lay down
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: with both of them to go to bed and there's
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: such night owls that by the time they fall asleep,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: I'm going to bed, like I'm yea calling people with them,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: or I go to bed and then while they're awake.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Justine's actually quite strict as to like what he allows
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: our kids to like consecuod for him, I'm not. I'm
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: like last night Annie and I fell asleep looking at
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: the anatomy of a vagina because I was explaining to
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: her that the vagina is actually the whole in the middle,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: it's not the labia. So that's what like, I'm super
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: super super open, but Justin would not allow our kids
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: to watch.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Justin needs to give me some lessons.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I So I'm the you and canyons, the Justin Yeah,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like like, She'll be like, I won't
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: know that she has told the boys this. Maybe no,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: there's no YouTube, you know nothing, and they'll come in
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: and go, hey, daddy, can we watch YouTube on your phone.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like, gosh, sure you go.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: And then I'm in the doghouse for like the better
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: part of a week trying to claw my way out.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: So I need some lessons on how to how to
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: strip it up a little bit.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: A very common conversation around our house is just insane
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: to me, What the hell are you thinking, I'm like.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Because.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking. I was just doing. Oh I love that.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So you're going to be the one
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: having the birds and bees conversation like I.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Did with exactly exactly.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So one of the biggest pieces of news
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: lately is that they're going to be redoing or renovating
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor mansion.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Needs needs to be done.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Have you gotten a call from ABC or no.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Like, really, it would be from AHGTV. Actually I've heard if.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: They contacted me and wanted me to do it, I
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: said I was not going to do any more TV. Okay,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: but I would do that. But yeah, I'm not really
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: an interior like okay. So when I was when I
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: got scouted for the show, I had taken two years
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: of interior designer courses and I was a restaurant designer.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: That's all I did. I think I did one or
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: two houses, but I had never done like residential. I
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: only did restaurant. And then I was on the show
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: positioned as an interior designer, and then I got hired
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: on by Extreme Makeover Home Edition. Sorry, I need to
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: focus my thing. I got brought on Extreme Ocover Edition,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: but that's not really interior design. It's more like decorating,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: which is probably what this house would want, but it's
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: it's not really legit, Like you're not really a legit designer.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: You're more just like picking up pink colors and like,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: it's not like cad and specifications and binders. And then
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: when I was done with Extreme Ocover Home Edition, I
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: went straight to lever or list It and loved her.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: List It. You have legit interior designers that are bringing
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: your vision to life. So I was basically just like
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: a glorified client. Really yeah, and now I have Now
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: I don't do interior design. Now I have the jillibox
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: and my Instagram page, and I don't do any interior
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Like I hired an interior designer for our new house,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing the interior design. However, I could play
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: the interior designer for The Bachelor Mansion Show. I would
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: just need a design team and I could give my
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: the jillionaires aesthetic.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: There you go like it?
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: That would really work. And I'm great on camera. I'm
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: great for drama. I think this would be a great
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: like four part episode was.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: For sure for sure. I don't know why they wouldn't
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: because actually we've heard that they are higher. They're bringing
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: people from Bachelor Nation.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: But what about Joelle Joel Joelle Jojo will do it?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure Jojo would do it. For sure. Jojo
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and Jordan, they're a team. We actually just had Chris
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Lambdon on and I think he he does some renovations.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: There's Tyler Cameron.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: I mean they have.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: More did I did a Rocky Mountain reno show. I've
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: definitely was not the brains of the operation and had
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: had the team behind us too. But yeah, no, they're
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: bringing people back. You are a natural fit. You were
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: on the original Extreme Makeover.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm interested.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I think I mean we're putting it out there in
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the universe.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Trista still the whole it's called.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I won't say. For the longest time, I never had
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: time like I would have loved her listed and I
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: had babies in COVID and other than the Bachelorette reunion,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I never had time to come to any of these events.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: But recently I'm starting to have fomo.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Oh we need to do something like for real, we
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: have talked so long on our little text chain, which
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: has been radio silent for years. I feel like.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: That's so awesome that we have not we do, but
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: we never.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Do anything with it anymore. We need to We need
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: to bring it back. We need to bring it back
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and get a trip on the books because it would
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: be amazing to get all the girls together. But also
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I have always told Rob Mills, we need to do
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: a like a reunion for everybody, Like how crazy would
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: it be? They don't have to fly everybody in, but
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: maybe it would be in LA because I don't know
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: where it would be.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: But specialty discounts on the people can pay for their
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: own right, we're all adults.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, Like just a big, huge fun party.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Televise it and we'll be.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: There after you guys did the Bachelorette reunion.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I kept waiting for them to call for the Bachelor reunion,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: like I thought they would do one, you know what,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: And they just didn't do it, And I was like,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: oh my god, this would be so interesting to me
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: because you don't.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: We're interesting with the ladies because it's the hair that's true,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Like you guys are all just be sitting around farting
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: in the same outfit like Firestone.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Firestone and I love getting our hair done. It's true.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Everyone knows that if we can get a little blow up,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: we're both happy with that. I can't all right, we
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: have so much more we want to ask Jillian. So
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: we are going to take a quick break and we return.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: We'll have more Almost Famous ogs with Gillian Harris.
• 28:24
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• 28:27
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