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IS IT REALLY SO TABOO? LESBIANS, BDSM AND THE AWAKENING · CALL ME MISTRESS

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  Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me a Mistress.
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  I am Mistress Mia and I've got Madame Liv.
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  Hi, guys. Now you're whispering.
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  OK. Hi guys, it's me.
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  Liv is such a little jokester, prankster, funny, goofy person.
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  I mean, you don't. They don't see this side of you,
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  which is really funny. Yeah, they see a different side.
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  I have different personas I can put on.
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  You do because yesterday you're just, we had the best time and
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  then I'm like, God, she's goofy as shit.
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  We have such a great time and I'm laying in a bed.
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  I'm like, God, she's so awesome. I'm like, Liv, you are so
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  awesome. I'm so glad we met.
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  I know you're getting on the issue with me I.
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  Know I know, but I love you. You're great.
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  I love you too. So we always have admirers that
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  write us and I like to read some of the emails sometimes when
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  they pop up on my fat feed or or e-mail.
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  Now we've had some haters, you know, at the end of the year
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  I've been called a few nice lovely things, but I don't give
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  a fuck. Yeah, honestly, it's like it's
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  almost funny. And then we just go to the ones
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  that actually like us. Yeah, there's so much.
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  More of the ones that like us, yes.
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  You're like four people. You don't want that?
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  Don't like who? Cares who cares?
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  Fucking haters, fuck them all. Right, so this guy contacted us.
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  I'm fat and he's like, he's like, I've been a longtime
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  listener for the foreseeable future.
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  Mistress Mia, I love your podcast.
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  The banter between you and Barbie is the best.
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  Don't ever change that, please. I laugh and I smile throughout
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  your podcast episodes. I get so intrigued by your
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  famous parties and I hear you guys talk about him.
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  I just wish I lived in the US to attend one.
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  That would be a dream come true. That's sweet.
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  That is sweet. I'm like, oh.
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  We have one coming up and travel to come see us.
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  Right. And then this gentleman wrote me
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  this past week. Same guy, No.
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  OK. New e-mail, new listener, new
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  fan, and talk about a sweetheart.
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  So he's on Fat Life. I won't tell you his full name,
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  but Wolf is in his name. So we're going to call him Big
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  Wolf. So he writes me.
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  He's like, I just want to say thank you for making your
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  podcast. I just discovered it.
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  It's amazing. I've been laughing my ass off
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  most of the day and hopefully one day, if ever, I'll make it
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  back to Florida. I would love to come and book an
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  appointment. I appreciate you and everything
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  you're doing and please keep up the great work with the podcast.
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  Have a beautiful day and thank you again.
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  That's sweet. And that's sweet.
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  I thought that was so cool. I love.
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  When they say nice things to us about that.
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  Oh, my gosh, yeah. You know, so I wrote him back
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  and I told him that he's got a lot of cool pictures of him and
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  his dog and he's got a beautiful little puppy, you know?
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  And so I wrote him back and I'm like, oh, I love, you know,
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  pictures of your dog. And he's like, yeah, you know,
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  my, my tea is I guess her name is his world.
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  And, and he's a truck driver, so he's driving and it's cold and,
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  you know, but he said he liked reading my profile, looking at
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  all of our photos, and he still said he was trying to figure out
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  who everyone was from the podcast.
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  So I sent him pictures of you and Barbie and myself so he
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  would kind of. Get it like a better idea?
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  Yeah, just like a singular, hey, this is her but, but he's like,
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  yeah, I don't mean to bug you. I'm like, you're not bugging me.
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  I love these nice emails. Yeah, that's not bugging.
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  They're cool, right? Yeah.
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  But then, which was really interesting at the end of last
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  year, I just like to throw this in because I think it's very
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  amusing with people. You know, BDSM is so taboo in so
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  many circles. It's like I've tried to tell
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  parts of my family that there's so many things that I do that
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  help other people. Yeah, you probably save people's
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  lives and don't even know it. You know, and if that's the
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  case, I, I'm happy to do it because I love the people that
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  come into my life that show heart and goodness, you know,
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  they're just pure. Love, pure love.
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  Yeah, You know, that's what God is, is love.
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  That's it. And we're spreading.
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  Love that's it. And so I got this lovely comment
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  here because they reported this video podcast episode that I did
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  with Charles where he's, you know, he's a grown ass man.
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  You know, he's almost 50. Me.
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  Too, He's not. He does not look like a little
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  boy at all. No, he's not even a little boy.
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  No, but I mean, he's short and cute, but he's a grown ass man
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  in this video. But the video was degrading a
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  Sissy girl. Eat your come Sissy.
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  And it was it was a cool video. It was him sucking a strap on.
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  There really wasn't, you know, big nudity other than the fact
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  that he was jacking off at the end of it.
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  And I made him meet his own calm.
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  And what was really funny is he was like kind of setting the
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  stage. So he got a a black dinner
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  plate, but it was glass, it was porcelain, right?
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  So he said it made the cum colder quicker.
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  And he said it was so gross. You know when he did it, he.
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  Only likes hot cum. Yeah, he likes it.
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  Like fresh out of the tap, you know?
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  I mean chocolate and I'm. Not cooked on my.
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  Chocolate you're eating. Chocolate, not cum.
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  You're OK live, you're good. But anyway, someone commented.
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  I was like, Oh my God, but they posted on on Spotify.
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  Turn to Jesus. Don't fall back into the cycle
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  of lust. The devil is always tempting you
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  by saying just one more time, but really it'll be an endless
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  cycle of lust. You don't seek.
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  If you don't seek Jesus, he will forgive you.
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  Just ask for his strength and wisdom when dealing with lust.
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  Well, here's the thing. He Charles, is not hurting
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  anybody. No.
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  He's all by. Himself, he's all by himself,
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  he's all by you know, he's he's not hurting anyone.
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  And the simple fact of it is, these people, you know, they
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  forget that Jesus best friend was a hooker, Mary Magdalene,
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  and that he. Was in love with her.
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  Yeah, and he had 12 disciples following him around in the
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  desert and all sinners, All sinners.
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  And, you know, they're known in the Middle East.
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  You know, Iraq is boys are for pleasure, women are for
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  breeding. You know, there's so many parts
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  in the Middle East where it's, you know, freely open
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  homosexuality, you know, in certain countries.
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  Obviously, you know, Iran has changed, you know, and that was
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  the original Persia, which is where, you know, Christ kind of
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  like originated in that vicinity.
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  But here we're getting into a biblical discussion on a BDSN
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  podcast. But my point of it is.
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  Brave Jesus. I'll start with some.
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  But you know, it's like, OK, we love God.
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  We're Christians. However, in this scenario, he's
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  not hurting anybody. No, But yet this person tried to
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  say that I was a child's groomer.
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  Like I was grooming kids for this video.
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  And I'm like what? Don't know where.
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  You don't know where that even came out, honestly.
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  But yeah, there, that is just it.
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  It's really a profound thing. And it brings me to my topic of
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  how taboo BDSM is so interesting.
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  So we we were having conversation.
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  You were there the other night when we all had dinner, OK.
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  We were all out with my family and my, my sister, my oldest
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  sister, she's 62. She has, has always been a very
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  devout Catholic. We were raised Catholic.
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  And she starts really saying things under her breath when it
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  comes to me and the podcast. And she, she has called me many
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  things that weren't very unkind about what I do and talking
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  about the podcast, talking about sex, that kind of thing.
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  And so, you know, I told her I'm like, you know, we are, we're
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  all in this together, you know, and BDSM is just something else
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  that other people like to do. And it's doesn't make us
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  deviance. It doesn't make us horrible
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  people. No, you know, And so she was
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  sitting there and she was telling us about her brother and
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  her brother-in-law and sister-in-law on her husband's
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  side of the family. Apparently the brother-in-law
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  has a Bigfoot fetish and he they always had a sex swing, you
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  know, and she says, you know, they're just nothing but
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  deviance. They're they're just sick.
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  They're just sick people. I think it's sick if you're just
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  going to have monotone sex. Yeah, well, you know, they used
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  to have sex, Her and her gay husband who came out of the
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  closet. Oh nice.
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  You know that they used to have sex every Tuesday night,
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  scheduled scheduled sex, and that was not an indication.
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  That's deviant. You know what that man is going
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  through? That's why he went gay.
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  Yeah. My God.
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  Yeah. But, you know, I told her, I
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  said, you know, I said everybody has a fetish.
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  I said it could be spanking, it could be feet, it could be the
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  way someone smells. You know, it could be.
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  It's something as simple. Simple as like hands.
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  I like man's hands. That's in itself.
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  It's just such a small one. Yes, vanilla, but still.
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  Yes, eyes. People love eyes.
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  Yes, it's just smaller. Scale, a smaller scale.
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  You know, I love it when my girlfriend wears these types of
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  panties. You know, it's a kink and you
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  know, she makes it dirty. And I said, you know, I said her
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  name and I said, you know, you're just making it dirty.
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  I said he made it dirty, you know, because he ended up
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  cheating on his wife, cheated on his wife with multiple
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  prostitutes, you know, and honestly, he was never a nice
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  guy. He's not a great person,
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  obviously was not a great husband, you know, but it is
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  what it is. And so I, I bring this topic up
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  because so many people struggle with having these fetishes and
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  having these kinks, you know, and it's just like your admirer
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  who reached out to you. He said he wanted skin on skin.
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  He obviously lacks intimacy. You know, the other night once
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  you left. So just to give the listeners
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  some background on this. OK, so we're recording the
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  fucked up Friday. And there was you, myself and
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  Ruby. We were the three doms in there.
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  And then Naomi came in, so it was four women.
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  And then we had Charles that came in to help us.
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  And then we had AJ, who was the Sissy slut who participated.
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  He was cool with us giving, you know, his name out.
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  He has no secrecy about it. And then we had one other
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  gentleman who's one of our regular folks.
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  He comes to events, he comes for sessions.
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  Nice guy, name is Brian. No big deal.
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  Anyway, so Brian, he's lacking intimacy in his marriage and he
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  went and said to, to Naomi, he's like, would you just do a
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  session with me where, you know, we just touch one another, you
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  know, and he's like, you know, I, I like to give massages and
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  I, you know, he basically, he likes heavy petting, obviously,
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  but without the sex. And so that says, you know, if
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  that's his kink, who's he hurting?
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  You know, does that make him a sexual deviant?
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  I don't want a pet. Yeah, you know, because that's
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  my point. It's like, you know, my sister
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  turned around and said that it was, you know, his foot fetish
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  and his his sex Wang that made him disgusting.
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  And I was like. That's why people fall into
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  themselves and don't talk about themselves.
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  Yeah. Because of people like that.
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  Because, you know, you live with this, you can't.
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  And there's some people that have it.
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  So, you know, it's a real thing. You know, we're made in the
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  image of him. So it's like you have this thing
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  and you're not, you know, it's better to just fulfill it fully,
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  be yourself. And if it means having this
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  thing that if you hold it in it, it it's like a cancer it.
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  Is it eats you up for real? I'm so glad you said that
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  because you know, that's what so many people have issues with.
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  And, you know, one of the gentlemen in that room had said
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  to me it wasn't Charles. Obviously Charles is very open
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  with everything about himself he had.
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  Fun. I liked watching him have fun.
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  Oh, he's so sweet. He's such a doll.
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  But it's interesting because these other guys, they've
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  struggled with their bisexuality, you know, and they
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  both want to be forced to do it so they won't feel guilt.
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  And I said, guys, you know, everyone in this room is
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  bisexual. You know, we're all bisexual on
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  some level, you know? Yeah.
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  You don't want a relationship with the dude because you're a
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  dude, you know? But would you suck a Dick
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  because it's a Dick? Yeah.
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  Go ahead. So tell us, Liv, what was your
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  first sexual experience with another woman?
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  Well, I've, I, I'm going to say like the first, first one
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  because I was really young. I, I, I feel like I've always
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  had these problems. But when I first realized it, I
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  was, I was really young because I kissed a girl on the bus.
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  We were dare to do it, you know, and we're like, oh, yeah.
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  And I kissed her. She had long curly brown hair
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  and I got to kiss her. And that was like my first real
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  experience with touching another woman with my face.
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  I'm like, I didn't even know I liked that Then you know, I sent
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  a picture of my who nanny out to a boy.
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  OK, your hoop nanny. My hoop.
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  My hoop. Nanny, I sent that to a boy and
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  you know, cameras back in the day on the phone.
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  Which not. Flattering and I Oh.
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  No. I did not know.
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  I just took I literally ran, you know, took that picture and I
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  sent it to him and he replied you so so I was traumatized for
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  a good while. Did it meow they probably I
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  don't know, but I I went to my best friend and I was like, can
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  I see your vagina? Like just like matter of fact,
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  And I just kind of see it till I know if I'm OK or not, Like am I
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  normal or do I look you you know what I mean.
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  I want to know. And she said you to me and I was
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  just like really let down by that.
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  We weren't friends no more, but that's like the second
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  encounter. But the one as an adult.
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  Yeah, I know. I've always been by.
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  Just never really. Poor girl.
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  I know whatever, but. First experience as an adult was
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  right whenever I was out of my marriage and I was just like let
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  loose into the into the wild. And I went to a bar and the this
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  couple came up to me and was just like kind of just playing
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  around. Like, hey, you want to hang out
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  at my house on a weekend And we do like dinner and stuff.
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  Like, sure, I went over there, we cooked out and she just
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  pulled her titty out. Big ass titties.
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  I'm coming out. Her body was tiny framed, but
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  she had the biggest titties. She squirted.
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  Me with her breast milk. Oh my God.
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  That's how she did it. That's how she started this
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  whole thing. I was like, I didn't know how to
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  think about it. I didn't find it sexy at all,
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  you know? I was like, well, that's
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  interesting you. Know OK, wow.
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  And eventually we actually all got too nervous and we I was
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  about to leak, so I was getting too late.
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  And she said, well, let me show you around the house.
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  Let me tell you, show me her room, the first one.
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  And she just sits on the bed, takes off her shirt.
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  I was like, OK, that's what we're doing and I got to enjoy
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  both of them at the same time. And that was.
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  All right. Was my first true experience.
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  So I got to like see and touch and like, are we the same?
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  And all these things like I got to actually do that.
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  And it was so, you know, with anybody else in the whole world,
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  I probably would have like not been gay after that.
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  But she made it so comfortable. She was so sweet.
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  She didn't make anything sexy like over the top.
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  She was everything was just cute.
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  She was cute. She would be running around
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  like, like chasing me and stuff and I'm like, it was cute.
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  It was not a sexy experience, but it was one of the best
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  experiences I ever had. And, you know, kudos to her.
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  But she knew what she was doing because they moved like the next
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  week. They had planned to do this
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  before they moved so they would never see me again.
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  And I wasn't made aware. And it hurt my.
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  Feelings. Wow.
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  But they did that be like, oh, well, we're moving, so we'll
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  let's do this before we move. And then we get in a whole new
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  area. And so that's what happened.
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  They moved like 3-4 hours away in that.
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  Come to find out though, 'cause her husband reached out to me
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  like a year later and he was like, yeah, we actually had made
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  a baby that night. So they had a baby and and named
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  it after one of his tattoos. Wow.
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  I know. I was like, Oh my God, I helped
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  make a baby. Oh wow, that's cool.
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  It was your sperm and everything.
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  I know I was. I was like, that baby's mine
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  too. I helped make it.
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  Oh, shit, that's interesting. Yeah, you know, I don't know, I
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  I've had, I did my own little experience experimentations
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  after my first divorce, but during my divorce, I mean during
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  my marriage, excuse me, during my marriage to my first husband,
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  my best friend that I grew up with thought that it would going
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  to be cool if she came in on the shower with me and like.
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  While you're married. Yeah, and, and my husband was
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  there. He wanted to watch.
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  Oh OK so there y'all are into it.
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  Well, I wasn't into it. Oh, because they just shocked
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  me. I should have locked my damn
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  bathroom door because I don't want to.
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  I didn't want to make out or even have sex or anything.
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  You didn't want to have anything with a.
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  Woman. No, not with her.
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  Oh, not with her. Yeah, not with her and not with
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  my my ogling looking, you know, husband at the time, like, you
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  know, standing there jacking his Dick, you know, it's like.
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  Oh, that does sound kind of. Cringy.
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  It was like here I'm going to take a hot shower before I go to
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  bed and I've got horny one and horny 2.
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  Like hounding me like that wasn't fun.
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  That was your first experience? That was my first experience
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  when I. Wasn't like an awakening?
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  No, not an awakening. Probably when I was dating
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  someone after my first marriage, after my first divorce, my first
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  marriage and I met somebody we were, you know, through like
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  alter one of those dating sites, whatever.
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  And you know, I met her and she's I I like pretty black
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  women, you know, my best friend growing up.
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  She is a pale white girl with red hair.
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  I don't like gingers. I'm not sexually attracted to
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  gingers. I don't like red hair.
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  I do not like that Sam. I am.
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  I don't like it. Oh, poor gingers out in the
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  world, Yeah. You know, I mean, I've slept
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  with ginger men, but ginger women.
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  I feel like I feel like I'd rather have a gender woman than
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  a gender man, and my boyfriend right now told me that ginger
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  women have a specific thing in their vagina that's different
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  from all other women. OK, I'm unaware of that.
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  I'm unaware of it too. I want to find out How did I
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  find out though? Would she have freckles?
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  Well you don't ask as ex see if she spread that pussy for you.
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  She probably would. I I don't know if we're talking
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  about the one that I'm thinking about, no.
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  Yeah, she's a fun little bitch. You know, with him, I'm, I'm
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  able to be open in things. So like he would let me, you
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  know, experiment. Yeah.
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  With a redhead, Yes. And he likes redheads anyway, so
• 21:03
  it's like works out. Yeah, I know he.
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  Likes different in there. What's different?
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  You know, and the thing that is, there's some beautiful redheads.
• 21:10
  I get it. Beautiful women.
• 21:12
  Amy Adams, love her, right, But my best friend, she was a
• 21:18
  stripper growing up. She was, you know, way ahead of
• 21:23
  everyone else, like losing her virginity at, you know, 1213
• 21:27
  years of age. It was bad and I just I was, I'm
• 21:32
  just not attracted to, you know, your best friend like that.
• 21:35
  It's just kind of like, you know, we're broskis, not, you
• 21:37
  know, a little fuck buddies. I would have.
• 21:38
  Them with my friend. My answer to see my vagina.
• 21:41
  Yeah. Yeah, you're probably messing.
• 21:43
  So she don't she don't talk to me no more.
• 21:45
  I reach out every now and then. She's like, that's that creeper
• 21:48
  live. Yeah.
• 21:51
  No, but you know, again, she's she's probably closeted.
• 21:55
  She's probably just like, you know, I don't want to step over
• 21:58
  that threshold and because people are scared by it.
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  Because I think it's taboo because everything that's, you
• 22:05
  know, like there are so many cultures, so many religions that
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  isn't like religions that are here in the US There's a lot of
• 22:12
  religions that have where you have multiple wives or multiple
• 22:15
  husbands, like it's polyamorous as part of a religion.
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  You know, you're just like, yeah, you know what's right and
• 22:21
  what's wrong in that? So just, I would say just be a
• 22:23
  good person, be the best you can be, you know, spread love and be
• 22:28
  who you are. Yeah.
• 22:30
  In a nice way though. Yeah.
• 22:33
  Like don't be it like, you know, because serial killers.
• 22:36
  Guys, don't do that. I'm not trying to promote that,
• 22:41
  but be yourself. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 22:44
  But you know, everybody has a flavor for what they like, you
• 22:48
  know, and it's like I said, I'm not anti redheads.
• 22:50
  I've slept with redhead that are men.
• 22:54
  But you know, it's like one of them, he had a fucking hairy ass
• 22:57
  back. It was like.
• 22:58
  The red hair. Yeah, reddish blonde.
• 23:02
  It was like all over. It was like so thick, like even
• 23:05
  the sweat wouldn't absorb. It was just like sweat beaded on
• 23:08
  him. It was like.
• 23:12
  Yeah, you didn't have good experiences.
• 23:13
  That was now. I didn't have good experiences.
• 23:15
  I never did. I don't think I've ever had sex
• 23:18
  with a redhead like a true. Redhead Oh, I have, I have I I
• 23:22
  have fucked Indians. I've fucked Iranians.
• 23:27
  Iraqi. Did you make it around the
• 23:30
  world? Every fucking culture, even
• 23:33
  Swedish I've like. Girl, you get around.
• 23:37
  Yeah, there's hundreds. Hundreds.
• 23:41
  Love your confidence. It's true.
• 23:44
  It's been, there's been hundreds.
• 23:46
  My friend and I used to have a competition with how many people
• 23:48
  we could sleep with and we'd write them down.
• 23:51
  And so hers would be like the pizza guy, the circus guy.
• 23:55
  Yeah, I have a friend that we name all his little whores
• 23:58
  because he asks a lot of people and I call him, oh, that is that
• 24:01
  sandals? You know, because she wear these
• 24:04
  ugly ass sandals. Is that sandals?
• 24:05
  Yeah. Is that orangutan titties?
• 24:08
  You know what I mean? We call we have one of those
• 24:09
  orangutans. Oh my God, That's how we keep up
• 24:12
  with them. So I could not keep up with
• 24:13
  their names. Wow.
• 24:15
  So I probably the same thing. Well, I like I said, I've always
• 24:19
  slept with attractive black women.
• 24:22
  Really. As women, Yeah.
• 24:24
  Now there's this really cool couple that comes to the parties
• 24:26
  all the time, but we're friends now.
• 24:28
  I don't want to fuck friends, you know I don't.
• 24:32
  That's the best kind. I don't want to do that.
• 24:35
  I just don't like that. It's weird now.
• 24:37
  Oh, I. Guess.
• 24:38
  You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because you don't want to
• 24:40
  mess with the friendship. Yeah, you don't.
• 24:42
  And it's like. That's why if like you have sex
• 24:45
  with somebody and especially if you're going to be close and
• 24:47
  quarters with them only once. Now see Missus Griswold, we ran
• 24:51
  into this before when when they first started swinging, OK, they
• 24:56
  met this couple that were younger than them.
• 24:59
  Well, he the husband of this other couple, they weren't
• 25:03
  really into older women. He was not into older women, but
• 25:08
  his wife, his wife was really into just kind of like any
• 25:12
  attractive woman. And that they connected with,
• 25:16
  you know, so they would go camping, They would hang out
• 25:19
  together. And this went on for a couple of
• 25:22
  months, you know, just a few times.
• 25:24
  And finally they started to realize, oh, shit.
• 25:27
  Well, the Griswolds are in their 50s, and we're in our late 20s,
• 25:31
  early 30s. And they're like, you know, we
• 25:34
  really care about them, but they're more like our aunt and
• 25:38
  uncle now because we've we've come so close.
• 25:41
  And so I've tried to explain that to Ellen.
• 25:44
  It is. And, and Ellen, she took that
• 25:46
  hard. And I was just like, Ellen,
• 25:49
  they're just young kids. They just want to go and fuck.
• 25:53
  Strange. Yeah, they have so much, you
• 25:55
  know that they. Want to do?
• 25:56
  Yeah, they want to fuck. Strange they they don't want to
• 25:59
  have emotional connections to people, you know, like.
• 26:02
  That is she just wanting like a Poly relationship with another
• 26:05
  couple or what is her goal? What would you mean, the other
• 26:09
  couple or the Chris Wallace? Oh, no, Ellen.
• 26:12
  Ellen still wanted just to see them and hang out with him.
• 26:16
  She says Mia doesn't have to be sexual.
• 26:19
  So she just liked them. She really liked them, Yeah.
• 26:22
  She liked being around them because they're great people,
• 26:25
  you know? They're fun, beautiful people.
• 26:28
  And so that was the same concept because I told I told the couple
• 26:34
  I was like, you know, Ellen and Clark, they don't have to fuck
• 26:38
  you all. You know, it's not like that.
• 26:41
  They just want to be your friends, you know, And now,
• 26:45
  granted, they don't live in the same city.
• 26:47
  They're, you know, several hours apart now, but you know, they'll
• 26:52
  be back at another party. I'm going to have to reach out
• 26:54
  to them soon and and talk to them.
• 26:56
  But you know, but I see where they're coming from because like
• 27:00
  I said, there's a couple here and you know, I would feel
• 27:05
  awkward in the sense that, well, I'd be fucking the wife and the
• 27:09
  husband be OK with that, because I told the husband, I said, you
• 27:12
  know, I'm I'm monogamous to my husband with other men.
• 27:15
  I said, but you know, there's exceptions.
• 27:18
  You know, we just haven't explored that Ave., you know.
• 27:22
  But I like some sexy black women.
• 27:25
  And I tell you what, Bree and I were in the coffee shop few
• 27:29
  months back and there was this cute little black girl and she
• 27:34
  was about four foot 84, foot 9. Real tiny.
• 27:37
  Real tiny. Definitely your type.
• 27:39
  Yes, didn't look like she didn't have the the the small little
• 27:44
  person legs. They she look like it hurt.
• 27:49
  She, her body look like a 12 year old, you know, and it was
• 27:53
  almost like, OK, let's make sure her face looks mature enough
• 27:56
  that she doesn't look like a child.
• 27:59
  You know, that's creepy. But she has a very mature face.
• 28:04
  You could tell she's in her 20s, you know, in her late 20s.
• 28:09
  But she has this cute little voice and she's fucking
• 28:13
  adorable. And so Bree's like, Oh my God,
• 28:16
  she works at the car wash and I'm like, let's go get her and
• 28:19
  kidnap her. Did you get her number?
• 28:23
  No, because when we were in the coffee shop she was talking to
• 28:27
  other people and I didn't want to interrupt her.
• 28:30
  But she's in the area. She works at the car wash, so
• 28:34
  when I go to the car wash again, I'll be a little.
• 28:37
  Bit cute, you know, get your hair done or something.
• 28:39
  Yeah, I'll get her number the. Car be clean when you get there.
• 28:42
  She's like, I don't have a dirty car, I come here for you.
• 28:47
  Hey baby, I want that brown sugar.
• 28:51
  Oh, let me know how that goes. Yeah, I told my husband I'm
• 28:55
  like, yeah, I just want her to sit on my lap so I can do dirty
• 28:57
  things to her. Yeah, I've been looking for one
• 29:00
  too. It's so hard to find.
• 29:02
  It is a girl that would be OK with that.
• 29:04
  Yeah, but. It's so odd.
• 29:06
  What? Happened to the babysitter.
• 29:08
  She started dating somebody and we never got to actually fully
• 29:11
  play. Oh yeah, it was very sad.
• 29:14
  We'll find yourself. Right at the moment where I
• 29:17
  don't remember what I was going through, but I was going through
• 29:19
  something, yeah, with my mom or somebody that it is all.
• 29:22
  Everything collapsed all at once.
• 29:24
  And on top of it, she cancelled. It was meant to.
• 29:27
  Happen. Oh, yeah.
• 29:28
  You know, I always think was like, well, maybe I always think
• 29:31
  there's reasons for everything. So I never think like, I mean,
• 29:34
  yes, I hurt my feelings for the fact of, like, so close, you
• 29:37
  know? Like, yeah, he's already, you
• 29:39
  know, my boyfriend's already played with her.
• 29:41
  So I didn't know, like, OK, she's safe.
• 29:43
  So I was excited. Well, March 1st is right around
• 29:48
  the corner. You going to tear that shit up,
• 29:50
  girlfriend? Well, I'll be working.
• 29:53
  Yeah, you'll be working, but you can network, you know, you can
• 29:56
  be like, hey. Yeah, I got to find out what if
• 30:00
  me and my boyfriend have the same type we haven't explored
• 30:03
  that I would want to share. You don't want to.
• 30:07
  Share. I do want to share.
• 30:09
  That's the only thing I want to do.
• 30:10
  I don't want to be by myself. Yeah, I'm not into that.
• 30:12
  OK, which is weird. I'm not into girls by myself
• 30:15
  but. Well, you're, you're a good
• 30:18
  looking couple, so it shouldn't be an issue.
• 30:21
  But you know what he likes. You know, you're kind of you fit
• 30:25
  the mold so. I mean.
• 30:27
  A shorter, curvier woman. That's what he likes.
• 30:30
  I like a little bit of like blew it more extra meat.
• 30:34
  Than he does. Probably I like, I like a little
• 30:37
  bit of a not, not fat, but I like little chunky women, little
• 30:41
  chunky women, cute little round faces.
• 30:43
  Yeah, sweet looking girls. Yeah, I get.
• 30:46
  It the big boobies. Yeah, you would like our hot
• 30:49
  Asian that comes to the parties. Oh my goodness.
• 30:53
  Yeah, she's adorable. I don't.
• 30:55
  Know I'm in the Asians. I have to.
• 30:56
  See, you have to see. You never know.
• 30:58
  Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to put it off me.
• 31:00
  Like, I don't like Asians because, you know, there's
• 31:02
  sometimes where you just like, wow, I'd do that.
• 31:06
  There's so many great people you're going to meet at these
• 31:08
  parties and I'm going to introduce you.
• 31:10
  You're going to fucking love it. You're.
• 31:12
  Going to like maybe our listeners will be there too and
• 31:14
  then we get to meet them. Too well, if all of our
• 31:17
  listeners came, we would not be able to fill them in this house.
• 31:23
  Ones that are in town, they. Would be parking 5 miles down
• 31:25
  the road because there's several thousand that listen to the
• 31:30
  podcast. But on that note, Liv, it's been
• 31:34
  always great talking to you and more adventures to come.
• 31:38
  So until then, this is the closing episode of.
• 31:41
  Call me Mistress Bye.