Latest / The PodKaz: USCHO Women's Hockey / The 2026 Frozen Four is set, with Penn State ready to host and play
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Uscho dot com. We are down to the Frozen four teams.
- 0:14Speaker 1: This is Todd Molski here with Nicole Hosey, and this
- 0:16Speaker 1: is the podcast from us cho dot com The Cole.
- 0:19Speaker 1: It's an exciting time of the year. Four teams, three
- 0:22Speaker 1: games left. We'll have a national champion by the end
- 0:25Speaker 1: of the week. How are you feeling about this seeing
- 0:29Speaker 1: Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, and Northeastern go through to
- 0:33Speaker 1: the final weekend of the season.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not necessarily surprised by Pond State or Northeastern
- 0:41Speaker 2: based on the way this season gone. But also if
- 0:43Speaker 2: you'd have asked me to name the Frozen four a
- 0:45Speaker 2: few months ago, I wouldn't have named those two teams.
- 0:48Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit of a surprise, right I think,
- 0:51Speaker 2: you know, most people expected Wisconsin and Ohio State to
- 0:54Speaker 2: be here. Plenty of people wish that they were, But yeah,
- 0:58Speaker 2: I think way to go both Northeastern and Penn State,
- 1:01Speaker 2: which is just to say like they're both been you know,
- 1:03Speaker 2: top five ranked teams and ended up here. And you know,
- 1:07Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about how I think this has
- 1:08Speaker 2: probably been on Penn State's radar this entire time and
- 1:13Speaker 2: I've been thinking a lot this week just about like
- 1:15Speaker 2: what an amazing four years it's been for them since
- 1:18Speaker 2: the last time they hosted the Frozen Four, which they
- 1:21Speaker 2: were not a ranked team at that time, and obviously
- 1:25Speaker 2: bringing in Testa Janicke did that and a lot of
- 1:27Speaker 2: what is positive is a ripple effect of bringing in Tessa.
- 1:31Speaker 2: But it's not just Tessa, if that makes sense. So yeah,
- 1:33Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just it's cool. I think it's
- 1:36Speaker 2: it's difficult because it's still a Big ten program with
- 1:38Speaker 2: lots of resources, and so I don't know that it's
- 1:40Speaker 2: like a lesson that tons of other universities can get
- 1:43Speaker 2: a lot from. But I do think even still sort
- 1:46Speaker 2: of like what we've seen from them, what we saw
- 1:48Speaker 2: from Ohio State a few years ago, like it's good
- 1:50Speaker 2: to see sort of when you put resources in and
- 1:54Speaker 2: when you put attention and when you you know, make
- 1:56Speaker 2: the right choices for your program, that it pays off.
- 2:00Speaker 2: And I think that's even if you are, you know,
- 2:03Speaker 2: a Big ten program. I think there's things that we
- 2:05Speaker 2: can learn from that and show it to other universities,
- 2:07Speaker 2: Like it does make a difference when you when you
- 2:09Speaker 2: do these sorts of things, and it pulls your team
- 2:12Speaker 2: where they need to be, even just the sort of
- 2:13Speaker 2: like Penn State, we saw this coming, right, but they
- 2:15Speaker 2: hadn't won an NCAA game before this. Think they were
- 2:18Speaker 2: winning the AJ but not going any further, and they
- 2:20Speaker 2: have continued to do what they need to do to
- 2:23Speaker 2: be in this position now. So all that is to say,
- 2:26Speaker 2: it's both unsurprising and surprising. But I think it's going
- 2:29Speaker 2: to be some really fun hockey this weekend. So that's
- 2:30Speaker 2: the best part.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope that Penn State being in the tournament
- 2:34Speaker 1: makes it you know, the atmosphere is a little bit
- 2:37Speaker 1: more energetic. I mean, we saw you were there four
- 2:40Speaker 1: years ago in twenty twenty two. I was not, but
- 2:43Speaker 1: the crowds were sparse that I feel like if you
- 2:47Speaker 1: throw the home team in there, even though they you know,
- 2:50Speaker 1: looking at last week's attendant numbers of seventeen, it you know,
- 2:55Speaker 1: not incredibly inspirational there, but still you have a chance
- 2:59Speaker 1: there to get some people in and get them exposed
- 3:01Speaker 1: to one the Penn State program, which is our real
- 3:05Speaker 1: upward trajectory, and then two in the women's hockey gay
- 3:08Speaker 1: which also has you know, had a lot of things
- 3:11Speaker 1: going forward over the last couple of years and especially
- 3:13Speaker 1: over the last couple of months with the Olympics and
- 3:16Speaker 1: then beyond that the PWHL. But a lot of chances
- 3:19Speaker 1: there to take advantage of this.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep going in circles on it, like maybe
- 3:25Speaker 2: the Olympics of it all helps. But if they didn't
- 3:27Speaker 2: go when tickeets were quite inexpensive, I don't know that
- 3:29Speaker 2: they're going to go when they're forty dollars And not
- 3:32Speaker 2: that that's an expensive ticket for a national championship, but
- 3:34Speaker 2: it is the price of a ticket for you know,
- 3:36Speaker 2: to go on Sunday. So yeah, the problem is that
- 3:41Speaker 2: it's a fantastic facility and it is absolutely a pain
- 3:45Speaker 2: in the butt to get there, and hotel prices are
- 3:47Speaker 2: crazy expensive, and there's usually seventeen other things happening on
- 3:50Speaker 2: campus at that time. And then like we were having
- 3:53Speaker 2: this discussion because my husband said somebody on run it
- 3:55Speaker 2: was like, I'm taking my faily to the Frozen Flour
- 3:57Speaker 2: but there's no clinic, there's no fan fest. What are
- 4:00Speaker 2: we going to do? And it's like, there's nothing to
- 4:01Speaker 2: recommend for you to do for the weekend. Go to
- 4:04Speaker 2: some other sporting events. Is basically it, and so it's
- 4:07Speaker 2: a it's a toss up. It's a great facility. I
- 4:09Speaker 2: don't want to bang on it, but at the same time,
- 4:11Speaker 2: it's not an ideal for a growing women's hockey Frozen
- 4:15Speaker 2: four experience. This is this is not the one before
- 4:19Speaker 2: for getting people to come out and sort of to
- 4:21Speaker 2: build on that Olympic bumped because it's just it's just
- 4:25Speaker 2: so difficult to do to get there, to find somewhere
- 4:27Speaker 2: to stay, like, it's expensive and it's inaccessible. Yeah, so
- 4:32Speaker 2: I have I also have hopes. I hope that, you know,
- 4:34Speaker 2: being close to Ohio state that gets people to travel.
- 4:37Speaker 2: I hope you know that's also much closer for Northeastern
- 4:39Speaker 2: than if it were somewhere in the west air quotes west.
- 4:43Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. I don't have tons of
- 4:45Speaker 2: hight hopes when they weren't getting people to their AH
- 4:48Speaker 2: championship or to their quarterfinal game this weekend unfortunately.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we'll see how the marketing is, I guess,
- 4:56Speaker 1: and if that makes any any difference in the local
- 4:59Speaker 1: area brings some blow that maybe didn't even know, uh
- 5:02Speaker 1: penn Sate was that good in women talk, So that's
- 5:05Speaker 1: kind of the threshold you have the cross.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Apparently some of the materials keep seeing University of Pennsylvania.
- 5:11Speaker 2: So I've heard that that's not not helpful, not ideal.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Uh people.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're if you're relying on the marketing and
- 5:18Speaker 2: the marketing materials are written wrong, because we've heard that
- 5:21Speaker 2: in stadium and then they heard it from some people
- 5:23Speaker 2: as well. So yeah, one step forward, two steps back,
- 5:28Speaker 2: always right.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, we will get into the semi final mashups
- 5:33Speaker 1: the Friday games a little later on in our show,
- 5:36Speaker 1: but we want to go back through how we got there,
- 5:39Speaker 1: through last Saturday's regional finals, and we'll kind of go
- 5:42Speaker 1: into order of when they finished at the Penn State
- 5:46Speaker 1: NITA lines. I'm not quite sure whether they their game
- 5:50Speaker 1: finished first or Wisconsin did, but I'm going to say
- 5:52Speaker 1: there first because they're the home team here. Fring Nothing
- 5:55Speaker 1: victory over Yukon in that regional final. That's the first
- 5:58Speaker 1: NCAA tournament victory in Nidney Allion's program history. They had
- 6:02Speaker 1: lost their first three. It felt like a really close game,
- 6:09Speaker 1: and it didn't feel like it really close. Came kind
- 6:11Speaker 1: of at the same time, it felt like Penn State
- 6:13Speaker 1: was was in control, but Yukon was hanging on and
- 6:18Speaker 1: then tested Janicky scores in the third to make it
- 6:20Speaker 1: to nothing. Every Stonehouse adds an empty dead goal. Katie
- 6:24Speaker 1: d signs up with thirty six saves for the shutout.
- 6:27Speaker 1: It did kind of feel like a Penn State game
- 6:30Speaker 1: in a lot of ways that they they got a
- 6:34Speaker 1: couple of goals, played really well in the d n
- 6:36Speaker 1: and and got to the Finch line.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Well, that second goal was a mistake. Tea Chan came
- 6:42Speaker 2: out and misplayed the puck and Janicke stole it and
- 6:45Speaker 2: put it in so and then obviously the empty netter.
- 6:47Speaker 2: So in the end you're talking, you know, essentially a
- 6:50Speaker 2: one ozero game without some mistakes, and so that makes it.
- 6:52Speaker 2: And I always say that in that like Connecticut just
- 6:55Speaker 2: needed one to really like change I think the momentum
- 7:00Speaker 2: of that game, but they just didn't seem to be
- 7:02Speaker 2: shooting with purpose or with like the desire. I don't like.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Of course they wanted to win, but I just felt like,
- 7:08Speaker 2: you know, they had some limited opportunities. Uh, Penn State
- 7:11Speaker 2: was playing great defense, but they it was there for them,
- 7:14Speaker 2: and I'm just not sure that they had whatever it
- 7:17Speaker 2: is that would make them sort of reach out and
- 7:19Speaker 2: take it. Like, as you said, it was a close game.
- 7:22Speaker 2: I think it was anybody's game technically, and yet I
- 7:24Speaker 2: never felt like that wasn't Penn State's game. So I
- 7:27Speaker 2: don't know how that works in a game that was
- 7:29Speaker 2: essentially one oho for most of it. But you know,
- 7:31Speaker 2: Penn State scored three minutes in like Connecticut had the
- 7:34Speaker 2: whole game, and it just never quite felt like they
- 7:38Speaker 2: were ever gonna gonna rest that back. Yeah, I don't know,
- 7:41Speaker 2: it was. It was a weird and interesting game. I
- 7:43Speaker 2: butt back and watch some of it because it was
- 7:45Speaker 2: happening at the same time we were in Madison, and
- 7:47Speaker 2: uh yeah, I I the score would lead you to
- 7:50Speaker 2: believe that game was closer than I think that it
- 7:52Speaker 2: actually was. But it also I think is telling that
- 7:55Speaker 2: Penn State wasn't able to put more on the board.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Either They're obviously gonna have to score again one from
- 8:01Speaker 2: a goalie turnover and one on an empty night, or
- 8:03Speaker 2: they're I think they're gonna have to score more than three,
- 8:06Speaker 2: honestly if they're gonna win this weekend. And I think,
- 8:09Speaker 2: you know, giving them three in this game is generous
- 8:12Speaker 2: in terms of like their offensive output. So uh yeah,
- 8:15Speaker 2: I think there were some lessons learned for them in
- 8:17Speaker 2: that game, but it will definitely be interesting to see
- 8:20Speaker 2: sort of what comes next.
- 8:22Speaker 1: That first round game was Yukon beating Princeton for one,
- 8:25Speaker 1: leading into that regional in Madison. It was Quinnipiac beating
- 8:29Speaker 1: Franklin Pierce four nothing in the Thursday night game, leading
- 8:32Speaker 1: into the Saturday regional final, where Wisconsin came out with
- 8:35Speaker 1: a six nothing victory behind the Kelly Geba Tanko hat trick,
- 8:39Speaker 1: seventeen saves from Athan McNaughton, Lacy Eaton, and Kristen Simms
- 8:42Speaker 1: each had a goal and assists. I mean, these are
- 8:44Speaker 1: the names that figure were going to be part of
- 8:49Speaker 1: it for Wisconsin, maybe not necessarily Gorba Tinkle. She isn't,
- 8:52Speaker 1: you know, an Olympian. She isn't the the kind of uh,
- 8:56Speaker 1: you know, maybe first line player you think of with
- 8:59Speaker 1: Wisconsin from a national perspective, But she's got twenty five goals,
- 9:02Speaker 1: twenty seven goals, whatever, it is now not someone you
- 9:06Speaker 1: can take lightly. And her last three games she scored
- 9:11Speaker 1: three times three in three of the last thirteen games
- 9:13Speaker 1: for Wisconsin, with a total of nine goals. In those
- 9:17Speaker 1: three games. So yes, absolutely, I don't think anyone's surprised
- 9:23Speaker 1: to see Wisconsin come out of this regional there is
- 9:26Speaker 1: their fourth straight frozen four. I thought this was going
- 9:30Speaker 1: to be a closer game on the scoreboard than it
- 9:33Speaker 1: wanted turned out to be. I thought was learning to
- 9:36Speaker 1: be a little bit better defensively, but Wisconsin scored two
- 9:39Speaker 1: and a half minutes into the game, and that really
- 9:40Speaker 1: felt like, let the Badgers play their style.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was twofold. One is that I
- 9:48Speaker 2: think Wisconsin did did the work they needed to do
- 9:51Speaker 2: to come out and be the team that they can
- 9:53Speaker 2: be on aper coming out of that w c CHA
- 9:57Speaker 2: Championship game where they were not, I felt like some
- 10:00Speaker 2: extent And then I do not mean this is offensive
- 10:02Speaker 2: to Quinnipiac at all, but kind of thought going into
- 10:04Speaker 2: this game like the team most likely to beat Wisconsin
- 10:06Speaker 2: as Wisconsin just in terms of how they have mentally
- 10:10Speaker 2: not been you know, been there, and they obviously made
- 10:12Speaker 2: those changes and did what they needed to do. I
- 10:16Speaker 2: thought it was really interesting. Cas Turner talked about Quinnipiac's coach.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Cast Turner after the game talked about some previous series
- 10:22Speaker 2: against the Badgers in which her team tied lost the
- 10:25Speaker 2: first game, and then tied or won the second game,
- 10:28Speaker 2: and so she was really trying to find a way
- 10:30Speaker 2: for her team to play that second game mentality. But
- 10:34Speaker 2: I like, I think it's just really hard. You can't
- 10:38Speaker 2: prepare for the speed and the pressure. I think that's
- 10:43Speaker 2: just what it is. It's it's just a different salid game.
- 10:45Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing we saw with Yale
- 10:48Speaker 2: against Ohio State. It's just it's a different style and
- 10:51Speaker 2: if you aren't playing at that tempo, it takes an adjustment.
- 10:55Speaker 2: And I do think that they'd have been able to
- 10:57Speaker 2: adjust and think about it more and do better if
- 10:59Speaker 2: it were more than one game series. But to do
- 11:01Speaker 2: that from the outset, I think they just struggled. You
- 11:03Speaker 2: just you don't have time and space. You can't stop
- 11:05Speaker 2: and think about it. And Wisconsin pushed even more than
- 11:09Speaker 2: they normally do. I think on that floor check and
- 11:11Speaker 2: Quinnipiac could not get out of the zone, so they
- 11:14Speaker 2: were either turning it over before they even reached the
- 11:16Speaker 2: half line, much less their own blue line, or having
- 11:18Speaker 2: to ice the box. So it was just it was
- 11:21Speaker 2: pretty like strong from Wisconsin, and I think Quinnipiac got
- 11:25Speaker 2: very frustrated very quickly, and that that turned into a
- 11:29Speaker 2: bit of a chippy, ugly game in that way too.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Moving on to Minneapolis, the four or five game ended
- 11:36Speaker 1: up with the five seed winning for the third time
- 11:39Speaker 1: in five seasons. That being Northeastern were a four to
- 11:43Speaker 1: two victory over Minnesota. The Huskies ran out to a
- 11:47Speaker 1: four nothing lead. Eloise Quran strikers a blockie Mea Langlois
- 11:51Speaker 1: in the first Morgan Jackson makes it four nothing in
- 11:54Speaker 1: the second, and boy, that was that was eye opening.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Abby Murphy pulled back a couple of power play goals
- 12:00Speaker 1: for the Golfers in the third period, but Lacy Johnson
- 12:03Speaker 1: makes forty five saves. I mean, I really have to
- 12:08Speaker 1: give Northeastern a lot of credit because this is we've
- 12:13Speaker 1: talked about a bunch of times. This is that team
- 12:14Speaker 1: without a whole home arena is gone. They're practicing a
- 12:19Speaker 1: different place, They're playing home games quote unquote in a
- 12:22Speaker 1: different place for the second half of the season. But
- 12:24Speaker 1: I guess maybe we shouldn't be surprised that team could
- 12:27Speaker 1: go on the like that can go on the road
- 12:29Speaker 1: in a play a true road game in the NCAA
- 12:31Speaker 1: tournament and win that. That's kind of what I took
- 12:36Speaker 1: away from that. From the Northeastern.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Side, I thought too, there just must be some spectacular
- 12:42Speaker 2: scouting because their first two goals were carbon pop is
- 12:45Speaker 2: of each other, scoring the same way, same spot, kind
- 12:49Speaker 2: of same everything on Hannah Clark, and she ended up
- 12:52Speaker 2: getting pulled after the third goal, so there was only
- 12:55Speaker 2: one goal scored on Leila Hemick. Yeah, I sure seem
- 13:00Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about how poorly Minnesota came into
- 13:03Speaker 2: the WC Champire Tournament. They are the team. I think
- 13:08Speaker 2: there's a side plot here where of all the stuff
- 13:10Speaker 2: we talked about in the Olympics and how the Olympics
- 13:13Speaker 2: of it all would affect things, we didn't foresee how
- 13:16Speaker 2: hard it would be for teams to get chemistry back afterwards.
- 13:19Speaker 2: That essentially one that group left, the people that stayed
- 13:22Speaker 2: form their own sort of chemistry and core, and bringing
- 13:25Speaker 2: those players back, they struggled again to get back to
- 13:28Speaker 2: what they were before the players left. Just an interesting
- 13:31Speaker 2: not one of the things we talked about in all
- 13:33Speaker 2: of the Olympics of it all, and Minnesota is the
- 13:36Speaker 2: sort of headed the worst. I mean, several teams struggled
- 13:39Speaker 2: with it, but Minnesota had at the worst in terms
- 13:41Speaker 2: of trying to figure out who they were and how
- 13:43Speaker 2: they were going to play in the couple of games
- 13:46Speaker 2: since the players came back from Milan, and I think
- 13:49Speaker 2: Northeastern came out and struck early and Minnesota were on
- 13:52Speaker 2: their heels and that was that was kind of the
- 13:54Speaker 2: end of it. I mean, they outscore or they outshot
- 13:57Speaker 2: Northeastern like thirty five to ten in the second team period,
- 14:00Speaker 2: So like major crops Delisa Johnsen, but also I think
- 14:03Speaker 2: they just were not necessarily until toward closer to the end.
- 14:10Speaker 2: But I just it wasn't controlled. It wasn't the sort
- 14:13Speaker 2: of style it you could tell they were playing from
- 14:16Speaker 2: behind and gripping stick too tight and just doing all
- 14:19Speaker 2: the things that happened in that situation. But they just
- 14:22Speaker 2: never quite found the smooth chemistry that they had early on.
- 14:26Speaker 2: You know, you weren't seeing sort of the circling of
- 14:30Speaker 2: the zone with Abby and the quick passes in what
- 14:34Speaker 2: you know, animl Bell finale getting to the net and
- 14:37Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff just kind of went by
- 14:38Speaker 2: the wayside. So, yeah, an interesting thing to be paying
- 14:42Speaker 2: attention to next time or next time we're in an
- 14:44Speaker 2: Olympic cycle, because it's just one of the things that
- 14:46Speaker 2: I did not foresee giving a team as much trouble
- 14:50Speaker 2: as they did to Minnesota.
- 14:51Speaker 1: Yeah, and the end of Minnesota season with a three
- 14:55Speaker 1: game series, losing the first game in the CHA playoffs,
- 15:01Speaker 1: to think aloud, State having to come back and win
- 15:03Speaker 1: games two and three to get to the final face off.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Then kind of we don't know what to make of
- 15:09Speaker 1: that game, that performance against Whio say it in the
- 15:13Speaker 1: final face off, semi finals, and then losing in the
- 15:15Speaker 1: first round of the NCAA tournament. It's it's important to
- 15:19Speaker 1: bring up that Minnesota has some decisions to make here
- 15:22Speaker 1: because Brad Frost is out of contract after the season,
- 15:24Speaker 1: and there's you know, you hear the whispers now and
- 15:29Speaker 1: then then it's just like, is where's this program going?
- 15:33Speaker 1: There's I mean, there's kind of a layer, a few
- 15:37Speaker 1: layers of questions to answer there. There's thin where's the
- 15:39Speaker 1: program going? Is it time for a change? Is it?
- 15:43Speaker 1: And then who is it? And they all have to
- 15:45Speaker 1: be wrapped up together. I don't know where that goes
- 15:48Speaker 1: this summer. I think they need an answer sooner rather
- 15:52Speaker 1: than later. But I do not know where where that leaning.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think both of our mentions, we're
- 16:00Speaker 2: pretty full of fans that were ready for that change
- 16:03Speaker 2: to happen in various levels of decor and thought process
- 16:08Speaker 2: on that. Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. I think one
- 16:11Speaker 2: of the things anytime you talk about a change, like
- 16:13Speaker 2: from simple like why did so and so get named
- 16:15Speaker 2: to this roster on up is you have to be
- 16:17Speaker 2: willing to discuss wh who's the successor or who do
- 16:20Speaker 2: you kick out or comes in? And you know, we
- 16:22Speaker 2: had this conversation a couple times with various people in
- 16:24Speaker 2: press boxes, and it's an interesting place right now in
- 16:28Speaker 2: women's hockey coaching in that, like, I think there's a
- 16:31Speaker 2: little bit of a gat still to some of the
- 16:33Speaker 2: younger players to the that of like Brianna Decker, like
- 16:37Speaker 2: newer generation that came out and so like, yeah, who's
- 16:41Speaker 2: who is the coach? Who do you see? And I think,
- 16:43Speaker 2: you know, from Minnesota, I think it's probably going to
- 16:45Speaker 2: need to be a gopher, particularly after Frosty, if this
- 16:49Speaker 2: is the change they're going to make. And so I
- 16:50Speaker 2: think it's not as simple as whether or not you
- 16:53Speaker 2: don't renew his contract or don't kill him a new contract.
- 16:55Speaker 2: I think it's who takes over that position. But yeah,
- 16:59Speaker 2: I can see. I mean, the fans are restless. It's
- 17:01Speaker 2: been ten years since they won a title. They haven't
- 17:06Speaker 2: been a serious national championship contender in any of that time.
- 17:11Speaker 2: I mean, they've made some frozen fours, right, but I
- 17:14Speaker 2: wouldn't say that they're They're not the top team, you know,
- 17:16Speaker 2: top one two teams in the country, So I imagine
- 17:19Speaker 2: that there are some people that are going to be
- 17:21Speaker 2: pushing for that. But I do think the conversation first
- 17:24Speaker 2: and foremost has to be like who they're a better
- 17:27Speaker 2: option out there?
- 17:29Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to our final regional in Columbus, Ohio,
- 17:33Speaker 1: where Yale got to the regional final by beating Minnesota
- 17:36Speaker 1: of one nothing and they I guess sort of predictable
- 17:40Speaker 1: exit for the looth in that they've therefore last four
- 17:43Speaker 1: years exiting the tournament evolved and by shutout, Yale was
- 17:48Speaker 1: the one to get it done this time, but then
- 17:50Speaker 1: Ohio State took care of those Bulldogs from Yale six
- 17:56Speaker 1: to one on Saturday to advance to it's six straight
- 18:00Speaker 1: frozen four. Jocelyn amous two goals to assist Slan Matthews
- 18:06Speaker 1: two goals and assist Hailey Cloud twenty two saves. Kind
- 18:11Speaker 1: Of like I said with Wisconsin, these are the names
- 18:14Speaker 1: you're you're thinking of when when you're in a big
- 18:17Speaker 1: game for Ohio State.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Yeah, I think kind of the episode what we were
- 18:21Speaker 2: seeing in some of the other games. I actually think
- 18:23Speaker 2: that Greame was closer than the final score indicated. I
- 18:26Speaker 2: thought Yale played really well and Sampson Fried, who was
- 18:29Speaker 2: a freshman goal lead who took over the net in January,
- 18:31Speaker 2: was given a really tough assignment. I think, you know,
- 18:35Speaker 2: Yale probably learned some tough lessons about being tough in
- 18:39Speaker 2: front of the goal and being able to clear out
- 18:41Speaker 2: some second chance opportunities, and that's something that they'll be
- 18:44Speaker 2: working on. But it wasn't won one game at the
- 18:46Speaker 2: end of the first and it was not sort of
- 18:49Speaker 2: the sniping like Ohio State pretty you know what we
- 18:53Speaker 2: can see from them, like they were some dirty, gritty goals,
- 18:56Speaker 2: which is they can also do. I just mostly am saying, like,
- 18:58Speaker 2: you know, I think Yale made them more for it,
- 19:00Speaker 2: and and the what do I trying to say, Like
- 19:04Speaker 2: the it was a narrow, narrow thing there that, Like
- 19:07Speaker 2: I think Neil Yale could have made a couple few
- 19:09Speaker 2: adjustments and made that a closer game. But yeah, those
- 19:12Speaker 2: were you know, you're gonna expect those players to do well.
- 19:14Speaker 2: I think Jocelyn Amos was probably the player that best,
- 19:18Speaker 2: maybe second best, her and Lacy Eden together, like did
- 19:20Speaker 2: the handled their teams while their olympians were gone, you know,
- 19:23Speaker 2: really took advantage of the opportunity and did something, you know,
- 19:27Speaker 2: to make sure that their clubs were still where they
- 19:30Speaker 2: needed to be after that months gone. But yeah, I
- 19:33Speaker 2: was impressed with Yale, even though the final score doesn't
- 19:37Speaker 2: show it. And obviously that's exactly what we expect Ohio
- 19:39Speaker 2: State to do. They're gonna use their size, and you know,
- 19:42Speaker 2: I think they were. They were carving out space in
- 19:44Speaker 2: front of the net and that's how those second chance
- 19:46Speaker 2: goals come. But also Jordan Baxter's wrap around that one
- 19:50Speaker 2: was spectacular, So yeah, I think exactly what we expected there.
- 19:55Speaker 2: And just yeah, Minnesota Duluth going back for a second.
- 19:58Speaker 2: Not only that, but they so they had a say,
- 20:00Speaker 2: one went over the new hot winner, which was Sacred
- 20:02Speaker 2: Heart a year or two ago. But if you take
- 20:04Speaker 2: that out, they have scored three goals in six NCAA appearances,
- 20:08Speaker 2: and that's not good. That one's from Matt Willens. Yeah,
- 20:12Speaker 2: it's uh, it was. It was bad and it couldn't.
- 20:15Speaker 2: I don't have any answers. I clearly they don't either.
- 20:17Speaker 2: But there's a lot I think of questions and work
- 20:20Speaker 2: to be done for Minnesota Duluth because I just don't
- 20:23Speaker 2: think you can go into an NCAA game and lose
- 20:26Speaker 2: one nothing or look at those numbers and have the
- 20:27Speaker 2: last couple of appearances and be happy and think that
- 20:30Speaker 2: that is, you know, sustainable. So yeah, kind of frustrating
- 20:35Speaker 2: for them for sure.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Yes, indeed. Okay, that's our look back at last week's visuals.
- 20:42Speaker 1: We returned. We will take a look at the Frozen four.
- 20:45Speaker 1: I mean this week in State College Pennsylvania. Stay with
- 20:48Speaker 1: us on the podcast. We're back with the podcast Todd
- 20:59Speaker 1: and the Cole talking the Frozen Four. Now we're into
- 21:02Speaker 1: Friday's semi finals in State College, Pennsylvania. Agoula Ice Arena
- 21:07Speaker 1: will host for the second time, and the first game
- 21:11Speaker 1: on Friday, four pm Eastern is Ohio State against Northeastern.
- 21:15Speaker 1: That'll be followed by Wisconsin against penn State. Around seven thirty.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Eastern buck Eyes and the Huskies have some history against
- 21:24Speaker 1: each other in the Frozen four. Ohio State won three
- 21:26Speaker 1: nothing in the twenty twenty three semifinals in Duluth. We
- 21:34Speaker 1: weren't sure what to expect from Northeastern at the start
- 21:37Speaker 1: of the season. They had a bobble last year, a
- 21:40Speaker 1: season that was not up to their standards. But we
- 21:45Speaker 1: have seen throughout the season where they've just built and
- 21:48Speaker 1: had a comfortable lead in Hockey East and finished that
- 21:52Speaker 1: off and now they've gotten their way to their third
- 21:54Speaker 1: Frozen four. For since that twenty twenty three appear in Duluth,
- 22:02Speaker 1: we knew whil it was going to be pretty sure
- 22:06Speaker 1: they were going to be here again, given the motivation
- 22:09Speaker 1: that they took from last season. And so from that perspective,
- 22:15Speaker 1: when you're looking back six months ago, I don't know
- 22:17Speaker 1: if we would have going to something you would you
- 22:19Speaker 1: said earlier we would call this as I said, I
- 22:21Speaker 1: finally able to Frozen four.
- 22:24Speaker 2: No, absolutely not, you know, like we'll fully admit we
- 22:28Speaker 2: were wrong about Earth Eastern, right, and I think good
- 22:32Speaker 2: on them for sort of just building throughout the season
- 22:34Speaker 2: and really just groeving that that was a blip as
- 22:39Speaker 2: opposed to, you know, sort of the new state of things.
- 22:41Speaker 2: I think to they they're freshmen, have just really I mean,
- 22:45Speaker 2: they've been good from the beginning that they've really brought
- 22:47Speaker 2: blossomed and they're underclassmen overall, and I just think they've
- 22:51Speaker 2: you know, sort of stepped by step built to where
- 22:52Speaker 2: they are right now. And you know, we spent a
- 22:55Speaker 2: lot of the season talking about teams that didn't sort
- 22:58Speaker 2: of recover from law losses or bounce back, and I
- 23:02Speaker 2: feel like out of Northeastern is the team that did
- 23:04Speaker 2: do that. There most of the losses were non conference
- 23:07Speaker 2: and so that should kind of helped them in that step.
- 23:09Speaker 2: But also just I think they they learned from from
- 23:13Speaker 2: their mistakes and just kind of continue to keep growing.
- 23:16Speaker 2: And I think, you know, Lisa Janson is just an
- 23:19Speaker 2: absolute I don't feel like, I don't want to say beast,
- 23:23Speaker 2: but just a beast in that. I mean, she just
- 23:25Speaker 2: is she gives them so much confidence. She's you know,
- 23:28Speaker 2: six feet she's a big goalie. But I just think
- 23:30Speaker 2: it makes such a difference and allows particularly when your
- 23:32Speaker 2: team is younger and they're learning and growing, it gives
- 23:35Speaker 2: them the confidence to go out and maybe try more
- 23:37Speaker 2: things and be you know, have more confidence on offense.
- 23:42Speaker 2: And so I just I think that for them, this
- 23:44Speaker 2: is really about building throughout the season. Coaches talk about
- 23:47Speaker 2: peaking at the right time, and and that's not to
- 23:50Speaker 2: say that they haven't been good to this. I just
- 23:52Speaker 2: think they really built week by week to get to
- 23:54Speaker 2: this point and be prepared and to win a game
- 23:57Speaker 2: against you know, Minnesota and be in this position.
- 24:00Speaker 1: And so I.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Think the best thing that could have happened for them
- 24:03Speaker 2: is sort of if you're looking at just this matchup,
- 24:06Speaker 2: knowing that they got to go and beat Minnesota last
- 24:08Speaker 2: week is the best possible prep they could have had
- 24:11Speaker 2: to be here, uh, to be to w c H
- 24:13Speaker 2: a team to be the team that place somewhat similarly
- 24:17Speaker 2: has you know, sort of the star power, and I
- 24:20Speaker 2: think it's still going to be a tough hill for
- 24:23Speaker 2: them to climb. It will be interesting to see how
- 24:26Speaker 2: they handle, you know, the speed and the just the pressure.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Ohio State puts so much pressure on teams, and we
- 24:31Speaker 2: watched them do it to Wisconsin, who knew it was coming,
- 24:33Speaker 2: and it's still still foibled them. So I think it's
- 24:37Speaker 2: really hard, Like we were saying, you know, it's really
- 24:38Speaker 2: hard to practice for that. I don't know if they
- 24:41Speaker 2: you know, if you're able to to go and have
- 24:43Speaker 2: a have your men's team come play against them, or somebody,
- 24:46Speaker 2: you know, an older squad that can come and put
- 24:48Speaker 2: that speed on them. But I think you know, your
- 24:50Speaker 2: regular everyday practices can't really prepare you for that. And
- 24:53Speaker 2: it's less about skill and more about being able to
- 24:59Speaker 2: make the right decisions or good decisions, or even defent
- 25:02Speaker 2: decisions without thinking about it, without having time to do that,
- 25:06Speaker 2: to just get the puck and move the pucket and
- 25:08Speaker 2: not get sped up and overwhelmed because someone is going
- 25:12Speaker 2: to be in your face. So I think that's the
- 25:14Speaker 2: deciding factor for them.
- 25:16Speaker 1: I agree with all that. I do hold on, like
- 25:19Speaker 1: reserve the fact that Lacy Johnson could be a difference
- 25:22Speaker 1: maker right and and it will take a really massive
- 25:27Speaker 1: effort there, but she's done it. And so that's that's
- 25:31Speaker 1: something I think can be Northeastern's X factor. How they
- 25:36Speaker 1: can win that game is is by by play strong
- 25:40Speaker 1: defense and and looking for a couple of chances and
- 25:44Speaker 1: and and being able to bury them when you get them.
- 25:46Speaker 1: So I do feel like you know, house, it has
- 25:50Speaker 1: the experience they've They've been in this, you know, this
- 25:53Speaker 1: game six years in a Rono, So everyone on that
- 25:55Speaker 1: team just about is is knowing what this is about it.
- 25:58Speaker 1: It's gonna be newer for a lot of Northeastern's players,
- 26:01Speaker 1: and we've seen that in the past take a toll
- 26:03Speaker 1: on some teams, especially early when they're trying to get
- 26:06Speaker 1: their feet settled against that experienced team. But yeah, there's
- 26:11Speaker 1: just that that kind of like I feel like a
- 26:14Speaker 1: goalie can go out and win this tournament.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Yeah. I also think there's something to the fact that,
- 26:20Speaker 2: like Ohio State has been looking to avenge last night,
- 26:23Speaker 2: their national championship from the very second and ended, there
- 26:26Speaker 2: is a lot more pressure on them in this game,
- 26:28Speaker 2: and Northeastern has nothing to lose. Maybe they were the
- 26:32Speaker 2: only ones that expected them to be here, you know,
- 26:34Speaker 2: five months ago, and so just being able to go
- 26:37Speaker 2: in and not have that pressure and not worry about
- 26:40Speaker 2: it and sort of just go full guns lazing not
- 26:44Speaker 2: having to you know, not worry so much about it.
- 26:47Speaker 2: And I think, like you said, with least, I think
- 26:50Speaker 2: they need to not let Ole High State score early,
- 26:52Speaker 2: and I think they need to find that way to
- 26:55Speaker 2: balance the offense with the defense. They absolutely have to
- 26:58Speaker 2: put a focus on defense, but they cannot absolutely give
- 27:02Speaker 2: up all of their offense and doing so. I think
- 27:05Speaker 2: too about what kas Turner said after the Wisconsin Quinnipf game,
- 27:09Speaker 2: which is that she had studied sort of the ways
- 27:12Speaker 2: that they had Wisconsin had been scored on, and so
- 27:14Speaker 2: they had a very clear plan on how to get
- 27:17Speaker 2: past that pressure. They weren't able to execute it. But
- 27:20Speaker 2: I feel like that's the similar thing that Northeastern is
- 27:22Speaker 2: going to be doing, is like what were the plays,
- 27:24Speaker 2: What were the ways that like people have have put
- 27:27Speaker 2: pushed back on this and broken it down and finding
- 27:30Speaker 2: ways to not just like understand that, but being able
- 27:33Speaker 2: to execute it is what's going to be the difference
- 27:35Speaker 2: for them. But yeah, I actually think the ability to
- 27:37Speaker 2: play with no pressure and just like they've got nothing
- 27:40Speaker 2: to lose and in Ohio State, in their own heads,
- 27:45Speaker 2: have a lot to prove here, and I think those
- 27:48Speaker 2: those are the X actor things that can really make
- 27:50Speaker 2: a difference.
- 27:52Speaker 1: The second game Wisconson Penn State. This is my mind
- 27:59Speaker 1: went back to the start of the twenty twenty two
- 28:01Speaker 1: to twenty three season, which is a real long time
- 28:05Speaker 1: ago and not Solario in many different ways. It's right
- 28:08Speaker 1: when Tessa Janik's career started at Penn State, so we
- 28:12Speaker 1: taught before that's kind of the start of this arc, right,
- 28:16Speaker 1: and maybe he'd been building a little bit, but that's
- 28:18Speaker 1: when it took off. She scored two goals in her
- 28:21Speaker 1: first collegiate game against Wisconsin at Pagoula in a four
- 28:24Speaker 1: to one win. That really opened a lot of eyes
- 28:26Speaker 1: that season, though Wisconsin came back the second day and
- 28:29Speaker 1: beat pet State nine to one, kind of restoring what
- 28:32Speaker 1: everyone thought was gonna be in what ended up being
- 28:35Speaker 1: really a topsy turvy season season for Wisconsin that ended
- 28:39Speaker 1: up with surprising, question mark national championship in twenty twenty three.
- 28:45Speaker 1: I don't know that that series means a whole lot
- 28:48Speaker 1: of anything almost four years later, but it just it
- 28:52Speaker 1: came to mind that there's some familiarity with some of
- 28:55Speaker 1: these players with each other, which and obvious, so there's
- 29:00Speaker 1: more familiarity with a lot of players that were on
- 29:03Speaker 1: the Olympics to get the Olympic team together with each other,
- 29:07Speaker 1: or even in that kind of national team scenario setting
- 29:10Speaker 1: up he other than that, this is a Wisconsin team
- 29:15Speaker 1: that has been to seventeen frozen fours now leads the
- 29:19Speaker 1: nation in that. And this is a Penn State team
- 29:21Speaker 1: that is in its first And I don't know how
- 29:24Speaker 1: much to make of that. What do you think, Well,
- 29:28Speaker 1: I would go back.
- 29:28Speaker 2: I would say one of the things that that that
- 29:30Speaker 2: twenty two twenty two, twenty three season series is is
- 29:35Speaker 2: that Penn State knows Wisconsin's people. That's the team that
- 29:39Speaker 2: won a national championship that year, and Penn State hit
- 29:42Speaker 2: them right from the first jump. And I think the
- 29:45Speaker 2: seniors on this team are able to end up there
- 29:47Speaker 2: and say like they aren't an unbeatable giant, they aren't
- 29:50Speaker 2: big and scary. They are a team we can beat.
- 29:53Speaker 2: And I think that belief has to be like the
- 29:55Speaker 2: foundation you can't go in, you know, scared, And so
- 29:58Speaker 2: I think that just so silly how you can believe
- 30:02Speaker 2: you could beat a team, But it makes a difference
- 30:03Speaker 2: when you actually beat them. The mentality of that that
- 30:08Speaker 2: little flip. Yeah, I the not having been there before,
- 30:11Speaker 2: there's the like twofold, the comfort of being at home.
- 30:14Speaker 2: But like they probably I wonder if they get to
- 30:16Speaker 2: be in their locker room.
- 30:19Speaker 1: I believe the way.
- 30:23Speaker 2: You know that they do.
- 30:25Speaker 1: That's I believe that's been the way it's been in
- 30:27Speaker 1: the past. Like Minnesota got to use theirs last year
- 30:30Speaker 1: as yeah, because why I'll say it was in the
- 30:32Speaker 1: other was on the ritter and had to come out right.
- 30:39Speaker 2: So you know, there's but it's just they're playing at home,
- 30:42Speaker 2: but it's not at all like regularly playing at home,
- 30:44Speaker 2: and there's different distractions and different timing and all of
- 30:48Speaker 2: the things that change the sort of the pattern of
- 30:51Speaker 2: the day that I think could really make a difference.
- 30:54Speaker 2: So that's where Wisconsin having been there before and all
- 30:57Speaker 2: these players familiarity change. Yeah, I don't I don't know.
- 31:01Speaker 2: I don't know how much to make of that. I
- 31:03Speaker 2: think there is. There might be a bonus to Dotage
- 31:07Speaker 2: going in naively blind all of it and being able
- 31:09Speaker 2: to take it all in and not feeling any of that.
- 31:12Speaker 2: I think. You know, again, the pressures on Wisconsin, like
- 31:14Speaker 2: the expectation was for them to return to the title game.
- 31:18Speaker 2: You know, everyone's been talking about Ohio State, Wisconsin the
- 31:21Speaker 2: player has been talking about how badly they want a
- 31:23Speaker 2: back to back that they didn't get. You know, the
- 31:25Speaker 2: last time they had won and came back the next.
- 31:28Speaker 1: Year, So.
- 31:30Speaker 2: Yeah, we could top yourselves in circles on this. I
- 31:32Speaker 2: think Penn State is also going to need some really
- 31:36Speaker 2: good goaltending. I think they have really haven't played a
- 31:40Speaker 2: team that plays this specific way that is anywhere near
- 31:43Speaker 2: as deep as Wisconsin is. I mean, Mark Johnson was
- 31:46Speaker 2: talking about running his full bench in the first like
- 31:49Speaker 2: five minutes of the quarterfinal game, which I'm not sure
- 31:53Speaker 2: any other team was doing. I mean we were watching
- 31:55Speaker 2: quinnipf NOTTT put their fourth line out even at the
- 31:58Speaker 2: end of that game. So yeah, I think there's a
- 32:01Speaker 2: lot of things that Penn State has to prepare for,
- 32:03Speaker 2: But I don't don't think that means they're unprepared for
- 32:05Speaker 2: it or that they can't handle it. I just think
- 32:07Speaker 2: it's all about how they adapt to what they're going
- 32:10Speaker 2: to face here.
- 32:12Speaker 1: There are a lot of things that I can I
- 32:16Speaker 1: can kind of imagine happening in that game. It kind
- 32:19Speaker 1: of depends on who who starts fast. Penn State gets
- 32:23Speaker 1: a jump and gets a goal in the first couple
- 32:25Speaker 1: of minutes, No tell them what's going to happen after that.
- 32:29Speaker 1: If Wisconsin does the same, I feel like that's that
- 32:32Speaker 1: plays in the kind of game that they want. They
- 32:34Speaker 1: want to be able to control the pop, control the
- 32:38Speaker 1: scoreboard and basically put their best options out on the
- 32:44Speaker 1: ice when they need them and let them let them
- 32:46Speaker 1: go and do what they have done now for three
- 32:49Speaker 1: four years for the team.
- 32:51Speaker 2: So it's momentum sort of just rolling downhill, like once
- 32:54Speaker 2: they've scored a goal that actually changes things for them. Yeah,
- 32:58Speaker 2: that's a good point. In Wisconsin has been known to
- 33:02Speaker 2: not necessarily start fast. I mean, they can do it,
- 33:04Speaker 2: but like they have a they have a tendency at
- 33:07Speaker 2: times to be very plat particularly in the first game
- 33:09Speaker 2: of the weekend. I think also the sort of very
- 33:12Speaker 2: obvious thing is face off, like how which team Wisconsin
- 33:18Speaker 2: was very bad at them in the wh A tournament
- 33:21Speaker 2: and that you know, Mark Johnson has talked for two
- 33:23Speaker 2: weeks now about his team chasing pucks and how he
- 33:25Speaker 2: doesn't want them to be doing that, and so obviously
- 33:28Speaker 2: I think that is a huge key for Penn State.
- 33:30Speaker 2: Wisconsin wants to possess the puck. They want to be
- 33:32Speaker 2: in control, they want to dictate things, and their entire
- 33:35Speaker 2: sort of setup is based on that, and when they don't,
- 33:39Speaker 2: it really changes their dynamic and really sort of throws
- 33:42Speaker 2: them off kilter a little bit. So Wisconsin has to
- 33:45Speaker 2: be winning face offs, period. But I think that's the
- 33:48Speaker 2: way Penn State can can really try and throw a
- 33:50Speaker 2: wrench in things and keep Wisconsin from really it's it's
- 33:53Speaker 2: one Wisconsin settles in and they're holding the puck in
- 33:55Speaker 2: the zone and still cycling out players and doing full
- 33:58Speaker 2: sale line changes and things that you're just like, yeah,
- 34:00Speaker 2: I don't know how any team you know faces this,
- 34:03Speaker 2: And so I think that's that's the they have to
- 34:06Speaker 2: keep the Badgers from just getting settled and really feeling
- 34:10Speaker 2: like they own the game because that that's really hard
- 34:12Speaker 2: to break down.
- 34:14Speaker 1: Both of Friday's games on ESPN plus four o'clock Ohio
- 34:18Speaker 1: State against the Northeastern that before Eastern seven thirty Eastern
- 34:22Speaker 1: Wisconsin against Penn State. Then the Sunday Championship gave four
- 34:26Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern on ESPN. You also certainly on ESPN plus
- 34:30Speaker 1: those semi final winners. The Pattycasmire Award gets it out Saturday,
- 34:37Speaker 1: so there is something kind of if you're going, there's
- 34:39Speaker 1: something to do between days. But that's relatively short ceremony,
- 34:44Speaker 1: half hour ceremony that you have to be there at
- 34:46Speaker 1: least a half hour ahead of time for and it's
- 34:50Speaker 1: still a cool event to be part of. But yeah,
- 34:53Speaker 1: you've got a lot of Saturday to fill with that
- 34:59Speaker 1: if you try the State College. But you will get
- 35:02Speaker 1: into that maybe a little later when we come back.
- 35:06Speaker 1: We're gonna take another quick break. We're gonna wrap things
- 35:08Speaker 1: up tease what we've got coming next week, uh and
- 35:11Speaker 1: maybe even later on this week from the Frozen, So
- 35:14Speaker 1: stay with us on the podcast. Welcome back to the podcast.
- 35:28Speaker 1: We're looking ahead to the Frozen four this week in
- 35:30Speaker 1: State College, Pennsylvania. Both the cole and I will be there.
- 35:32Speaker 1: We'll hopefully have a little bit something from a podcast
- 35:37Speaker 1: perspective for you over the weekend or later in the week,
- 35:40Speaker 1: So keep your eyes on wherever you get your podcast
- 35:43Speaker 1: feeds from and we'll try to have something from stay
- 35:46Speaker 1: College for you. But we'll also you know, share with
- 35:52Speaker 1: you here before we go, a couple of things that
- 35:55Speaker 1: are kind of cool to do around State College if
- 35:57Speaker 1: you're If you're going and you're looking to spend some
- 36:00Speaker 1: time around the area, I kind of feel like you
- 36:05Speaker 1: have to go to the creamery at least once. That's
- 36:08Speaker 1: the Ice Crew is is it's really good? Maybe not
- 36:13Speaker 1: something you can do more than once, because it's it's
- 36:15Speaker 1: rich and I have been there and I do recommend it,
- 36:21Speaker 1: But you've also had some experiences there when you were
- 36:25Speaker 1: there put the Frozen four in twenty twenty two.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I would say one of the reasons I
- 36:32Speaker 2: think the hotels are so like expensive is because there's usually,
- 36:35Speaker 2: like you've ternam in, some stuff happening. So I would say,
- 36:37Speaker 2: just think about like timing and maybe get some information
- 36:41Speaker 2: from people you see about when and we are those
- 36:42Speaker 2: like I ended up waiting behind several teams of youth
- 36:46Speaker 2: baseball players at the creamery. So just just a heads
- 36:49Speaker 2: up on that one thing we did four years ago.
- 36:52Speaker 1: So I have a.
- 36:53Speaker 2: Group of friends that just goes to every Frozen four
- 36:55Speaker 2: if this is the first one, they're not going to
- 36:56Speaker 2: in several years. And we actually we drove a band
- 37:00Speaker 2: there as five adults. My husband had a cast on
- 37:02Speaker 2: his leg, my other friend had a hand in a cast.
- 37:04Speaker 2: We were we were a motley crew in a minivan,
- 37:07Speaker 2: but several people came and met us and we went
- 37:10Speaker 2: to eight fourteen cider Works. So I would highly recommend
- 37:14Speaker 2: that when we went. They had like outside fires and stuff.
- 37:18Speaker 2: I can't find anything online about that, but we were
- 37:20Speaker 2: able to have food trucks. It's just a really pretty place.
- 37:23Speaker 2: It says it's open every weekend. The cider was great,
- 37:26Speaker 2: and it's just a nice place. It was nice to
- 37:28Speaker 2: sort of tell people where we were, and people came
- 37:30Speaker 2: and went, and so I highly recommend that if you
- 37:33Speaker 2: have not ever been to sort of the Pennsylvania area.
- 37:36Speaker 2: There is a Primanti Brothers that's a sort of local place,
- 37:41Speaker 2: local legend, right with the French fries on the sandwich,
- 37:44Speaker 2: So there's that. You know, there is a nit Nitney
- 37:46Speaker 2: lion statue. You probably want to go have your picture
- 37:48Speaker 2: taken with that. I actually did it the last time
- 37:51Speaker 2: because I have one from when I was like four,
- 37:53Speaker 2: and I didn't even think it was in the same location.
- 37:55Speaker 2: So I took a new one and sent to my
- 37:57Speaker 2: mother she could have side by side. And then we said, like,
- 38:01Speaker 2: maybe check the other sports schedules. I think somebody suggested lacrosse.
- 38:04Speaker 2: I know softball's home, but yeah, it's uh. I mean,
- 38:08Speaker 2: there's you know, like eight local breweries and there's there's
- 38:10Speaker 2: plenty of stuff to do downtown. But from a family lives.
- 38:13Speaker 2: It's just a really pretty place so and it is
- 38:15Speaker 2: supposed to be very nice by Saturday, like sixties, so
- 38:17Speaker 2: hopefully you could just get outside and enjoy it. But
- 38:20Speaker 2: that's why I would suggest the one four sightery. They
- 38:23Speaker 2: have lots of stuff in games, and it was family
- 38:26Speaker 2: friendly and it was just a really place to really
- 38:28Speaker 2: pretty place to relax and unline the Saturday nights. So yeah,
- 38:32Speaker 2: I think that's that's about it. I Unfortunately we're really busy.
- 38:35Speaker 2: We don't get to do a ton while we're there,
- 38:37Speaker 2: but yeah, it hopefully, hopefully people find stuff and if
- 38:41Speaker 2: we hear more, well we'll share it. But come to
- 38:44Speaker 2: the Patty Caws. It's a you know, it used to
- 38:45Speaker 2: be a like paid ticketed brunch thing and now it's open,
- 38:49Speaker 2: and I think it's just a really cool experience. All
- 38:51Speaker 2: the teams that will be there, the teams that are
- 38:53Speaker 2: still competing, and obviously the players that are nominated, and
- 38:56Speaker 2: you get a chance to see them up clubs and personal,
- 38:59Speaker 2: and it's really good experience. Usually they're signings surrounding that.
- 39:02Speaker 2: I'd imagine there'll be some signings with some of the
- 39:04Speaker 2: Olympians and things, so yeah, and if you see us,
- 39:08Speaker 2: say hi, we have stickers. You're right, we usually running around,
- 39:13Speaker 2: so you know, just stop and say hi. And if
- 39:17Speaker 2: we're running off to something, we'll tell you and where
- 39:19Speaker 2: we can find you later. So neither of us is
- 39:21Speaker 2: scary or intimidating. So we're very Midwestern.
- 39:25Speaker 1: God. Yeah right, that that is more possible than being
- 39:30Speaker 1: intimidated distracted. Yes, yeah, So that's twelve thirty Eastern on Saturdays,
- 39:35Speaker 1: the Patty Cas Ward the doors open at new That
- 39:39Speaker 1: is at the Robison Center on Penn State's campus, so
- 39:45Speaker 1: or you can find out on that on pattycas dot com.
- 39:49Speaker 1: That's KK Harvey from Wisconsin, Testa Jeriche pennsan at Bersery
- 39:53Speaker 1: for Minnesota, the read app vulte Getters, one of them
- 39:56Speaker 1: will be taking the award on Saturday. So yeah's lots
- 40:00Speaker 1: stuff that happened. I mean, it's we're focused on the
- 40:01Speaker 1: hockey because I mean, that's that's why we're here. It
- 40:05Speaker 1: does feel like this as an event. I do miss
- 40:10Speaker 1: the years when there was a clinic or there was
- 40:12Speaker 1: something there was, you know, more happening that you could
- 40:16Speaker 1: kind of point fans toward. Now, wonder if we'll get
- 40:20Speaker 1: that back. I wonder if that is a just a
- 40:23Speaker 1: function of there's a lot going on this weekend, say college,
- 40:27Speaker 1: I think it's the the Pennsylvania middle School basketball tournament
- 40:31Speaker 1: is there the same weekend every year, and so that's
- 40:33Speaker 1: the reason why all the hotels are there.
- 40:35Speaker 2: Was also, yeah, youth baseball tournaments, So yeah, that makes sense.
- 40:39Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, there's there's a ton happening that isn't
- 40:43Speaker 1: necessarily about. So yeah, I hope there's a little mid
- 40:51Speaker 1: carved out. Yeah.
- 40:53Speaker 2: I would just say to people, like, think about that,
- 40:54Speaker 2: Like there's gonna you're gonna go to restaurants, and there's
- 40:56Speaker 2: gonna be seven teams of so just things like that
- 40:58Speaker 2: you need to plan ahead for and stuff because there
- 41:01Speaker 2: are are large groups of children in most places weekend. Yeah.
- 41:06Speaker 2: I last year at Minnesota they had a bit more
- 41:09Speaker 2: stuff wasn't necessarily all public, but there were some signings
- 41:15Speaker 2: and clinics and things, and so maybe that's why people
- 41:19Speaker 2: assumed there would be this year, And I guess I
- 41:21Speaker 2: don't know that there aren't, but we haven't seen anything advertised, I.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Would say, but yeah, I mean, yeah, check the NCAA
- 41:27Speaker 1: site on that for the Frozen four because they will
- 41:33Speaker 1: have I think they've had a fan page and the
- 41:37Speaker 1: ass and things if you're going to check out, so.
- 41:43Speaker 2: You know, the men have a full fan fest experience
- 41:46Speaker 2: and there's there's a lot more going on, and we
- 41:48Speaker 2: can hope that we get to that point with the women.
- 41:50Speaker 2: But the problem is that we are we continue to
- 41:52Speaker 2: be at kind of remote locations. You know, next year
- 41:55Speaker 2: we're in Duluth, and the following year we are in Connecticut.
- 42:00Speaker 2: I don't remember what town we're at Sacred Heart. So yeah,
- 42:05Speaker 2: those are will be better, but again you're not. It's
- 42:07Speaker 2: just it's just different. It's I don't know how to
- 42:10Speaker 2: there's there are better words for it. I hope that
- 42:12Speaker 2: things can need to change. Maybe when we are in
- 42:15Speaker 2: sort of more populous areas we can which we'll start
- 42:18Speaker 2: something ourselves. But yeah, I would say find your people.
- 42:23Speaker 2: The best part about the Frozen Poor is that everybody
- 42:26Speaker 2: there loves women's hockey. I think you know, a friend
- 42:29Speaker 2: of mine was at the Olympics and talked about walking
- 42:31Speaker 2: around the concourse before the gold medal game and she
- 42:34Speaker 2: just like took a moment to say, these are my
- 42:36Speaker 2: people and really sort of soak in that, like these
- 42:39Speaker 2: are a whole bunch of folks that went through, whether
- 42:43Speaker 2: it's fans or family or whatever, they've they've gone through
- 42:46Speaker 2: the ups and downs of being involved in women's hockey.
- 42:49Speaker 2: And and to see a full stadium full of rabid
- 42:52Speaker 2: fans if pretty cool. And whatever the attendance is in
- 42:56Speaker 2: State College this weekend, it's a bunch of people that
- 42:59Speaker 2: love the game as much much as you do and
- 43:01Speaker 2: wanted to succeed. And so I think remembering that, and
- 43:04Speaker 2: I think for me, I'm really like trying hard to
- 43:07Speaker 2: do that in amongst the stresses of all the covering,
- 43:09Speaker 2: because it's a busy weekend for us, to just remember
- 43:12Speaker 2: to enjoy it. Because it's to some extent I start
- 43:14Speaker 2: to dread this weekend just because it's it's a lot
- 43:16Speaker 2: in a short period of time. And but it's a
- 43:18Speaker 2: really special experience to be around that many people who
- 43:21Speaker 2: love what you love and who want it to succeed
- 43:23Speaker 2: as much as you do. And so I think that
- 43:26Speaker 2: is my advice is is find your people. Don't be
- 43:28Speaker 2: afraid to talk to the person next to you, and
- 43:32Speaker 2: you know then you'll then you'll have plans for Saturday night.
- 43:35Speaker 2: You'll you'll find your people and figure it out. So yeah,
- 43:38Speaker 2: that's my advice is just to remember to stop and
- 43:40Speaker 2: take a moment to to soak it all in. Because hockey,
- 43:44Speaker 2: because we are so spread out, it's rare that we
- 43:46Speaker 2: all get to be in one place, and so it's
- 43:49Speaker 2: it's really a cool thing to stop and soap that
- 43:52Speaker 2: in and think about when we didn't you know, when
- 43:54Speaker 2: they Patty Chazzy used to be exclusive and fans didn't
- 43:56Speaker 2: get to go, and when you know, we just weren't
- 43:59Speaker 2: getting fans at some of these games. And so people
- 44:02Speaker 2: love women's hockey, Like the game is going to be
- 44:04Speaker 2: on TV on Sunday, Like, let's make sure that people
- 44:07Speaker 2: at home are sad they're not there and we show
- 44:09Speaker 2: off the sport in the best possible way.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Absolutely, we will have one more episode next week. We're
- 44:16Speaker 1: hoping that you'll send us some questions for our mail bag.
- 44:19Speaker 1: You can find the email address at the bottom of
- 44:23Speaker 1: our show notes. This is when we wrap up the season.
- 44:28Speaker 1: It's sometimes it's like we're in this tunnel vision of
- 44:32Speaker 1: just having seen the Frozen four and so it's hard
- 44:34Speaker 1: to think beyond that. So that's why I'm hoping people
- 44:36Speaker 1: will give us some even if it's not a question
- 44:38Speaker 1: is you know, can you give us some more on
- 44:41Speaker 1: this to reflect on this from the totality of the season,
- 44:45Speaker 1: and that will help us kind of widen our vision
- 44:50Speaker 1: a little bit as we get into next week and
- 44:52Speaker 1: start to really kind of, you know, unpack the season
- 44:56Speaker 1: as a whole. So before we get there, though, we've
- 44:59Speaker 1: got three more games ago, and we hope you enjoy them.
- 45:01Speaker 1: We know we will being on site. If you're there,
- 45:04Speaker 1: I would love to see you, Like Nicole said, if
- 45:05Speaker 1: you If you're not, I hope you enjoyed them on
- 45:08Speaker 1: TV or streaming, and we will see you here again
- 45:12Speaker 1: next week for the season finale of the podcast. I
- 45:14Speaker 1: can't believe it. It's already over or almost the finish
- 45:17Speaker 1: line it has and it's uh, it's been really fun
- 45:21Speaker 1: and we've got one week to go, so let's make
- 45:24Speaker 1: the most of it. Thank you for listening, Thank you
- 45:27Speaker 1: for watching. I'm Todd. That's the call. Thanks for watching
- 45:31Speaker 1: the podcast.