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Full Show Podcast: 02 October 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: Great to have your company. Six after five coming up.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: Five weeks to go in this election campaign. Who's winning?
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: Who's going to win? Opportunity is absolutely key to deciding
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: who will actually get the Treasury benches. Gavin Gray's in
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: the UK for us. France, the debt, it's getting worse.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: They're trying to do something about it. We'll also talk
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: about the Aussies not paying our visitor levy when they
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: arrive here. It's half of our tourists. And Labour's plan
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: for fixing the fees.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: The Agenda.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: Friday the 2nd of October, still don't know if Haram
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  Speaker 2: was involved in this pilot stabbing.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: I have instructed the security establishment to prepare for additional
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: potential threats.
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  Speaker 2: I salute these heroes who showed exceptional resourcefulness and courage.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: Turns out one of the pilots was an Indian national
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: trained in New Zealand. I'm quite proud of the guy really.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: He was a leading type student out in front, did
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  Speaker 2: very well, so we're all very proud of him here
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: and wish him a speedy recovery. Remember Krista Pike? We've
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: spoken about her for a couple of days now. This
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: is the woman in Tennessee on death row and they
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: tried botched attempt at lethal injection yesterday. Tried twice and
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  Speaker 2: she was still snoring 40 minutes later. She's now in hospital.
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  Speaker 3: It appeared that this did not go like they thought
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  Speaker 3: it was supposed to go. We have a lot of
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  Speaker 3: questions and the Department of Correction has a lot of
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  Speaker 3: answers that it needs to provide to the public about
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: what happened here. Why was it that by the time
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  Speaker 3: the blinds went down for the second time at 8.05,
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  Speaker 3: she was still breathing, and her breathing at points was
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  Speaker 3: very rhythmic. Now, at times it appeared laboured, she was
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  Speaker 3: snoring at times, but she was still breathing.
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  Speaker 2: That's their second lethal injection cock-up this year, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: in Tennessee. Staying with prisoners for a second in the UK, well,
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: the doors are opening. A new early prisoner release scheme
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: has kicked off in England and Wales. Hundreds of inmates
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  Speaker 2: are being released early. There'll be thousands more to follow.
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  Speaker 4: How are you going to celebrate freedom?
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  Speaker 2: Have a beer and get a fry up.
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  Speaker 5: How are you feeling about the prospect of, like, re-offending?
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel, like, rehabilitated?
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  Speaker 1: I don't plan on re-offending. Really?
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  Speaker 2: Nobody believes it. Yeah, yeah. Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: The rapists, the child killers and the murderers, they should
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  Speaker 5: stay in, but people like me shouldn't really stay in
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  Speaker 5: for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: I don't plan on any killing. I don't plan on
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  Speaker 2: any crime. OK, eight after five.
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: Before the news breaks, hear it first. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Spark for Business, technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. 9292 is the number to text. Just gone
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  Speaker 2: nine minutes after five. By the way, we had some
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  Speaker 2: stats out yesterday, the victims crime survey, which is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: how many victims of crime do we have in New Zealand?
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  Speaker 2: And the numbers have gone up again, but they're still
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  Speaker 2: not as bad as when the Labour government left and
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  Speaker 2: the National Party came in. So that'll be the line
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  Speaker 2: that they're taking. Yes, I think over the last three
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  Speaker 2: surveys now we've had increases in victims of crime, but
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  Speaker 2: it's still not up to the levels that it was
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: when they came in, so they can still claim a
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  Speaker 2: partial victory on that. Do you know what really ground
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  Speaker 2: my gears this morning listening to Neva reading the news
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  Speaker 2: was the Greater Wellington Regional Council. You know Moa Point,
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: where they pumped all the billions and billions and billions
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: of litres worth of Wellington's faeces into the ocean? It
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't a great look. So the regulator, the environmental regulator,
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: is Greater Wellington Regional Council. And they have charged under
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  Speaker 2: the RMA Wellington City Council and Te Aki Wai. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Te Aki Wai is the new water entity, the one
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  Speaker 2: that everyone hates because they're sending the bills and the
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  Speaker 2: bills are massive. But it's part owned now by Anita Baker. Well,
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  Speaker 2: not by Anita Baker. She's the mayor of Porirua. But
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  Speaker 2: Porirua Council owns part of the water business, right? And
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  Speaker 2: they're going to get hit with fines. Now, the fines
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  Speaker 2: across both potentially up to $ 100 million. It's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be anything like that, but that's the maximum possible.
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  Speaker 2: But what Anita Baker has done is write to the
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  Speaker 2: regional council chairperson. So just imagine if you're a private business,
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  Speaker 2: if you're a farm, and your regional council whacks you
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  Speaker 2: with a prosecution over environmental leakage or damage or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine you then writing to the chairperson saying it's completely
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  Speaker 2: inappropriate and unforgivable for you to do this. I think
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  Speaker 2: that is a weird... Is that not against the process somehow?
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  Speaker 2: She says in this letter, the loser will be our
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  Speaker 2: water services, our ratepayers and the credibility of your institution
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  Speaker 2: and by association all of us. The environment will not
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  Speaker 2: be improved as a result and lawyers will be employed
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  Speaker 2: on all sides. Uh, yeah, that's what happens when you
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  Speaker 2: break the rules, you know? Um, I just think it's
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  Speaker 2: outrageous because of course the lawyers are going to do well.
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  Speaker 2: That's what happens when there's a prosecution taken. Is it
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  Speaker 2: kosher that she is getting involved in that way? I
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  Speaker 2: don't think so. If I was, if I was somebody
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  Speaker 2: who'd been taken to the cleaners by an environmental regulator,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in Canterbury, for example, I'd be pretty peeved
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  Speaker 2: about what she's doing. 11 after five. Coming up, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk to Alex Sims. This is about Labour
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  Speaker 2: and their move to stop companies filling on extra fees
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  Speaker 2: and subscription traps if they're re-elected. That's next.
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  Speaker 1: Hear it first. Ryan Bridge on early edition with Spark
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  Speaker 1: for Business. Technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. It is 14 minutes after five. Great to
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  Speaker 2: have your company this morning. I noticed Meghan Markle, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's been big media coverage of them in the last week.
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  Speaker 2: Two reasons. One, there was some paparazzi in the bush
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: outside her kids' school, which is not particularly cool. But
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  Speaker 2: the new news today on Meghan Markle Watch is what
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  Speaker 2: she's doing over there with her business. She's made her
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  Speaker 2: first big business move since moving to Britain. And guess
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  Speaker 2: what she's selling? Drumroll. A £ 112 advent calendar ahead of Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: So that's $ 260 New Zealand dollars for an advent calendar.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 2: It's outrageous. But it is gourmet chocolate. And it's an
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  Speaker 2: LA company that does gourmet chocolate. She's partnered with them.
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  Speaker 2: And in the advent calendar, because you think, well, what
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  Speaker 2: do you put in there, Megan? An illustration of her
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  Speaker 2: mansion in Montecito in California. That's included. So you'll get that.
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  Speaker 2: And I suppose you'll get to eat it. Every detail
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  Speaker 2: was considered. This is from the press release. Every detail
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  Speaker 2: considered with care, including countdown numbers hand-painted in Megan's own
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  Speaker 2: penmanship using edible gold luster. There you go. If you've
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  Speaker 2: got a spare $ 260. And some people will. Some people
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: love Christmas or are obsessed with Christmas. There were some
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  Speaker 2: baubles for sale up the road from my house last
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  Speaker 2: Christmas for north of $ 200 per bauble.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Outrageous. But people are obviously buying them. Quarter past five. Right,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about what's going on with the Labour Party
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  Speaker 2: campaigning on getting rid of hidden fees. Some of these
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  Speaker 2: will be outright banned.
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  Speaker 4: And the other solutions include transparency measures, which will make
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  Speaker 4: it easy for people to see what they're going to
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  Speaker 4: be overcharged if they sign up for those products.
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  Speaker 2: So they want to make subscriptions like your gym membership
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  Speaker 2: easier to cancel, ban junk car insurance, outlaw retailers pressuring
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  Speaker 2: shoppers to take on extended warranties, all this stuff. Alex Sims,
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  Speaker 2: Auckland University professor, Department of Commercial Law with me this morning. Alex,
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  Speaker 2: good morning.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Is this practical?
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  Speaker 7: That's a good question. In theory it is, but in practice,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, we have a whole lot of really strong
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  Speaker 7: consumer laws that often get ignored. So it's almost like,
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  Speaker 7: what's the point of adding new laws if you're not
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  Speaker 7: enforcing the current laws?
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  Speaker 2: Which ones aren't we enforcing at the moment, Alex?
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  Speaker 7: Well, for example, unfair contract terms. I've done one study
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  Speaker 7: and been involved with another study where every single contract
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  Speaker 7: had unfair contract terms. Things like, you know, we can
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  Speaker 7: change the contract, any part of it at any stage
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  Speaker 7: and things like that, which are there. The MB, Ministry
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  Speaker 7: of Business and Information and Employment, know that they're there.
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  Speaker 7: The Commerce Commission knows that they're there. But, you know, very, very,
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  Speaker 7: very little is done.
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  Speaker 2: Unless something happens and then you've got to presumably try
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  Speaker 2: and take them to court or get a lawyer involved
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  Speaker 2: or something, is that how it normally would get resolved?
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  Speaker 7: Well, actually, with unfair contract terms, you can't do that.
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  Speaker 7: You can't go to the court. Only the Commerce Commission
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  Speaker 7: can go. And we copied that law off Australia, and
• 9:05
  Speaker 7: they allow you to go to the equivalent of the
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  Speaker 7: Dispute Tribunal. So that's a big piece. Also, a couple
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  Speaker 7: of questions. A couple of the things they're proposing actually
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  Speaker 7: currently break the law. So, for example, what they want, say,
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  Speaker 7: for cars is to require the car seller to show
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  Speaker 7: you the total cost of the life of the agreement
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  Speaker 7: if you get finance to buy it. But already there's
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  Speaker 7: the Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Act, which is meant
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  Speaker 7: to do that. So whenever you're buying anything on credit,
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  Speaker 7: you're meant to be told the entire total upfront costs,
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  Speaker 7: including all the fees and interest that you'll be paying.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm not quite sure why they're suggesting that. But
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  Speaker 7: there are some good things. So, for example, you know,
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  Speaker 7: extended warranties. What they want to do is make it
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  Speaker 7: so that you can't buy it or be forced on
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  Speaker 7: you on the day that you buy something. It'll have
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  Speaker 7: to be the day after, which will be quite a
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  Speaker 7: good break because the current law says that you can
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  Speaker 7: cancel an extended warranty within five days. But I think very,
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  Speaker 7: very few people do that. So that's good. Another really
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  Speaker 7: good one is making the cancellation of subscriptions as easy
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  Speaker 7: as signing up. Yes. That's really good.
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  Speaker 2: It's a nightmare.
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  Speaker 7: Because that's a huge, yeah, it's a huge issue. And
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  Speaker 7: that's what they do in Europe. So I think some
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  Speaker 7: of this has been copies from Europe. Yes, also to
• 10:34
  Speaker 7: banning unfair exit fees. But that would be good. I mean, technically,
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  Speaker 7: some of them are already what I call illegal because
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  Speaker 7: there'll be penalty fees. But no one really knows about that.
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  Speaker 7: So that would make things easier. a lot easier.
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  Speaker 2: Alex, fascinating talking to you. The most shocking thing you've
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: told us this morning is that you can't go and
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: challenge through the courts a contract that you've signed, even
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: if the contract is breaking the law. Outrageous. Alex, nice
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  Speaker 2: to have you on the program. Alex Sims, Auckland University Professor,
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  Speaker 2: Department of Commercial Law. It is 19 minutes after five.
• 11:07
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• 11:08
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• 11:17
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• 11:25
  Speaker 2: 21 after 5, we've got consents. This is residential building
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  Speaker 2: consents still climbing here. August, we had 3,440 new homes consented.
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  Speaker 2: That's up 12% on August last year across the whole country.
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  Speaker 2: We've got 19,000 standalone houses consented. That's for the year
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  Speaker 2: to August. That's up 21%. 22,000 multi-unit homes, so your developments,
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: also up 21% over the same period, so totals now
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: are at three-year highs. Should we be charging the Aussies
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: for the privilege of visiting New Zealand? National is promising
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: passport-free travel across the Tasman, but our scuzzies over there
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: aren't paying the international visitor levy on arrival. Because of
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: our economic deal with them, despite the fact that they're
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: our largest inbound market for tourism, half of our tourists
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: are Australian. Matt Woods joins me, CEO Destination Queenstown and
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: Lake Wanaka Tourism. Good morning, Matt.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning.
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  Speaker 4: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, just quickly on the National Party promise of passport-free travel.
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  Speaker 2: So you basically do it on your phone, and is
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  Speaker 2: it only for New Zealanders and Australians, or would it
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: apply to foreigners who were in Australia wanting to come
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  Speaker 2: here too?
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  Speaker 8: My understanding is it'll be for New Zealand and Australians only.
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  Speaker 8: So it's really just replacing the passports that Kiwis and
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  Speaker 8: Aussies would use to go trans-Tasman.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha. Now, what about the visitor levy? Do you think
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  Speaker 2: the Aussies, we should force them to pay it?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I don't think we can force them to
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  Speaker 8: pay it, but we're cutting ourselves short, aren't we? So
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  Speaker 8: at the moment, we do collect $ 100 in the international
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  Speaker 8: visitor levy, known as the IVL, at the border for
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  Speaker 8: all international visitors coming in, excluding Australia. And so if
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  Speaker 8: Australia is sort of half of our international visitors... we
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  Speaker 8: are cutting ourselves a bit short. So I think we
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  Speaker 8: need to find a way that we can actually recoup
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  Speaker 8: some of this money that we need to actually support
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  Speaker 8: conservation and tourism within New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a hell of a lot of money. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: half of the money to do with tourism that we're
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  Speaker 2: missing out on. How would you do it, though? What
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  Speaker 2: is a tricky way we could get around it?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I think it is a tricky thing to
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  Speaker 8: get around. But look, if you think about what we're
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  Speaker 8: using it for, it's for conservation, so access to our
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  Speaker 8: national parks. Is it actually a national parks fee that
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  Speaker 8: you charge at the board? That could be maybe a
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  Speaker 8: simple mechanism. But, you know, if we actually look at this...
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  Speaker 8: this announcement yesterday, we really encourage this. This is a
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  Speaker 8: great thing for both Kiwis and Aussies that want to
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  Speaker 8: get across the ditch. And, you know, if you think
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  Speaker 8: about it as a Kiwi and you might want to
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  Speaker 8: just go across to Aussie to go watch a sporting
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  Speaker 8: match or catch up with some friends and family or
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  Speaker 8: just do business, how easy is that to do without a...
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  Speaker 8: a passport and vice versa if we want to encourage
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  Speaker 8: more Australians to come to New Zealand how easy is
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  Speaker 8: that for them just to pop over the ditch as
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  Speaker 8: well so you know I think there's lots of great
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  Speaker 8: reasons to actually get rid of these passports and particularly
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  Speaker 8: for us in Queenstown where we have a really busy
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  Speaker 8: trans-Tasman airport already you know one less barrier is a
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  Speaker 8: great thing for.
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  Speaker 2: Us yeah so I guess that is the real benefit
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  Speaker 2: because it's not exactly a game changer like nobody's going
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  Speaker 2: to suddenly book a flight because of it but once
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: you get to the airport it should be a bit quicker.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's.
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  Speaker 8: A few people where actually a passport is a barrier.
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  Speaker 8: You know, there is actually, you know, once you've got
• 14:34
  Speaker 8: a passport, it's a little bit easier because you can
• 14:35
  Speaker 8: renew it. There is a cost and an expense to
• 14:37
  Speaker 8: doing that. But there is definitely a group of people
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  Speaker 8: out there that don't even have a passport and they
• 14:41
  Speaker 8: haven't even considered it. So if you can make a
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  Speaker 8: trans-Tasman flight much more like a domestic flight.
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  Speaker 2: And it's easy to do.
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  Speaker 8: It's just one less barrier. That actually does open up
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  Speaker 8: the market to more people, you know, from New Zealand
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  Speaker 8: going to Aussie and Aussie coming to New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Matt, good to have you on the show
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: this morning. Matt Woods, CEO, Destination Queenstown and Lake Wanaka Tourism.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: It is 25 minutes after five.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: Winston Peters was asked in this debate last night about
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  Speaker 2: whether he uses AI.
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  Speaker 9: Go back on history. Go back to when the saddle
• 15:08
  Speaker 9: was first invented. Go back to when the horse collar
• 15:10
  Speaker 9: was first invented.
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  Speaker 2: What's the saddle got to do with AI, Mr Peter?
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  Speaker 9: I just want to explain to you, you can't stop
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  Speaker 9: the future, but you can if you're using your experience.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: Do you use chat, GPT? Do you use AI?
• 15:22
  Speaker 9: No, I don't.
• 15:23
  Speaker 7: How did you make the cats on your Twitter account?
• 15:25
  Speaker 8: The copycats.
• 15:27
  Speaker 9: Well, we think outside the square.
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  Speaker 2: That was about as fun as it got last night.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: It's 25 after five. Newstalk ZB, 27 after 5. Trump's
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: getting pretty desperate now to fix gas prices ahead of
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: the midterms, and usually when he's trying to do something
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  Speaker 2: for America, there will be losers, and that could well
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: be the rest of us. That's how it normally works,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't it? We spoke a few weeks ago about the
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: fact that he was looking into a ban on diesel exports.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Industry didn't like it there. They thought it wouldn't bring
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: prices down. They lobbied the White House, said the idea
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: is dumb, could actually push prices up. Well, Trump's now
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: had advice on this. He's also, after getting this advice,
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  Speaker 2: shoulder-tapped some allies, including the Brits, to let them know
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  Speaker 2: what might be about to happen. So we don't know
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: exactly what that is yet, but the Brits are worried
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: enough to hold meetings with the Europeans. Unlike New Zealand,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: the UK still refines fuel, but it doesn't refine enough
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: diesel to meet its domestic demand, so it imports it.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: In the past three months, about a quarter of their
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: imports came from the US, and much more came via
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: third parties who in turn sourced it from America. You
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: can see the problem here. If supply gets cut, gets tight,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: we would be screwed on price down here at the
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  Speaker 2: bottom of the world too. We, along with Asia, the Aussies,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: could see shortages. Even a partial ban or a cap
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: could push prices way higher than the $ 3. 18, the average
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: right now for diesel at the pump across New Zealand.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: That'll have a big impact on prices, on transport, on farms.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: You can bet your bottom dollar. So here's hoping, for
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: our sake, America doesn't come first. Just another reminder, and
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: one that we should all be aware of as we
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: head into a voting election campaign. which should all be
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: aware of the potential costs, the pitfalls, the dangers out
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: there in the rest of the world that could harm
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: us and affect our balance sheet. 29 minutes after five,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: you're on Newstalk ZB. We're going to get to Europe.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Our UK-Europe correspondent, Gavin Gray, joins us live, and we'll
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: talk about the campaign thus far with Brigitte Morton. Newstalk ZB.
• 17:38
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• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. 24 away from 6 here on Newstalk ZB.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll look at the campaign thus far. Top,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: will they hit 5%? That's the key question of the election.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think they will get there, but what does
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Brigitte Morton think? She's with us before the top of
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the hour. Also, we'll get to the UK. Burnham's letting
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: prisoners out of prison. Let's go to some of your messages,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: because we talked earlier in the show about Moa Point,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you know, when they pumped all the poo into the ocean.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: And now they're getting fined, criminal charges laid against the
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: council and against the water entity, which is now Te
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Aki Wai. So they could get big fines. And the
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: mayor of Porirua has come out and said, well, that's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: not appropriate. The fines will be worn and the cost
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: burden will be on the ratepayer, and that doesn't seem fair.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: But how is it fair to anyone else who's ever
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: been taken to the cleaners by the RMA and by
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a regional or environmental regulator? Barry's messaged in with an
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: interesting one. Ryan, as someone who has been charged and
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: fined and had to go through the court process, I'd
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: have to agree with Anita, the Porirua Mayor. It is
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: a waste of time. It does just line the lawyer's
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: pockets and it doesn't improve the environment. It would be
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: much better to spend that money improving their infrastructure. However,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I was also personally charged and now have a criminal conviction.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I would like to know why this is not happening
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: in this case. It's a very good question. You also
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: can't insure against fines like this. That's actually illegal under
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the RMA in the first place. So, yeah, it is
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: a big hit. But how else do you stop? Like,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: if you don't fine the council or if you don't
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: fine the water people, how are they to get the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: lesson and the message that what they've done is wrong
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: and they shouldn't do it again? That's the only problem.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: 22 away from six. Let's go to our reporters. Callum,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: good morning.
• 19:47
  Speaker 10: Morning, Ryan.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: So hopefully more filmmakers will be heading to Otago after
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: this Netflix premiere of East of Eden.
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: Yeah, premiered yesterday or last night on Netflix starring Central Otago,
• 20:00
  Speaker 11: Dunedin and Oamaru. Around 700 crew were here last year
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: to film the seven-part adaptation of John Steinbeck's 1952 novel.
• 20:08
  Speaker 11: Oamaru had its Victorian streets transformed into period California, and
• 20:13
  Speaker 11: Waitaki Mayor Mel Tavendale says, you know, they welcomed the
• 20:16
  Speaker 11: production with open arms. She says Otago can be harder
• 20:20
  Speaker 11: for crews, international crews to reach, but she hopes this
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: exposure will bring more tourists and film opportunities to her
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: town and the wider region. Tavendale says it's important to
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: make the most of being in this international spotlight.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: All right, how's the weather in Dunedin, Callum?
• 20:35
  Speaker 11: Cloudy afternoon and evening rain. Norwest is strong at times.
• 20:38
  Speaker 11: Same for Oamaru today too. The high today, 20 for Dunedin,
• 20:41
  Speaker 11: 21 Oamaru.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Cheers, Callum. Thank you. Claire in Christchurch. Morning, Claire.
• 20:45
  Speaker 12: Good morning.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: You've got a lot of plants happening, a lot of
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: planting happening in the red zone.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this is a record planting season for the
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: area of the Avon River, which, of course, was cleared
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: to greenland after the quakes. But it's been some time
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: for it to sort of lose the driveways that you
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: could see in place for the properties and turn into
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: the green area. There's been 160,000 new plants put into
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: that area over the last year or so with volunteers,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: community groups, rangers and contractors all involved. 110 were planted
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: along the river, 55 native species among them and a
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: third are forest trees. So we will see some big
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: development there over the next few years. City Council Residential
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Red Zone Manager Dave Little says the area has had
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: its biggest planting season by far. He says the work
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: also included bringing back some species that had disappeared from
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: the corridor's habitats as well.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Lovely. How's your weather?
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: Fine.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: A bit of cloud increasing this afternoon. We could see
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: some rain a bit later. Northwesterlies before a southerly change.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: We will enjoy 22 degrees.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Nice one. Thank you very much. Tobias in Wellington. Morning, Tobias.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Oh, good morning from the Chatham Islands, Ryan.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're in the Chathams. Oh, cool. How was the debate?
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: It was brilliant.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, best fish and chips in my life as well.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: So that was one thing. But in the same room
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: that is actually hosting the island's annual pig hunting competition today,
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: the floor was open for locals to ask their own
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: questions of candidates. It was a historic night, really. This
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: is the candidates from Wellington Bays. in the very first
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: debate out here. And they sure made themselves heard, the Islanders,
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: in a fairly heated affair. They got to ask about infrastructure, education,
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: and a bit of finance. We sort of understand from
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: speaking to some of the locals out here, things like
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: secondary schooling, costing families here in the realms of $ 20, 000
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: per child, which often creates gaps in education, they say sometimes.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: The overall message from them, though, is, is sort of
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: please don't forget us they want to be represented and
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: they say they can often slip through the cracks with
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: some issues on on shipping and and infrastructure and housing
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: and especially things like bank loans and they feel they
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: don't really have a connection to Wellington Bays the electorates
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: over in the capital one person saying the Chatham should
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: even really have their own MP.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Should be its own country it's a brilliant place are
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: you staying above the pub.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we've been kicked up the road. I understand the
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: politicians have quite a nice little place for them.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: That's lovely there. That's beautiful. You have no beautiful lodgings
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: and great time at the pub. Did you stay up late?
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I stayed up quite late when I was on the Chathams.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I stayed up quite late because they put on
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: probably best feed of my life last night.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Good stuff. Hey, how's the weather in Wellington today, Tobias?
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so cloudy periods for the capital today, chance of
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: showers to the north, some north-westerlies easing this afternoon, 15
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: degrees up high.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Go and get some seafood for breakfast. Neva, good morning.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Good morning. Auckland Airport's past the halfway mark of their
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: new upgrade.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Woohoo!
• 23:57
  Speaker 12: Yes, this update.
• 23:58
  Speaker 13: So, the $ 3. 9 billion upgrade that's going to see the
• 24:01
  Speaker 13: domestic jet and the international terminals integrated due to open
• 24:06
  Speaker 13: in 2029. Well, the change is underway in the international
• 24:08
  Speaker 13: check-in area. they're the clearest signs of this transformation now becoming.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: Visible to travellers.
• 24:13
  Speaker 13: So the first phase of a self-service check-in and bag drop-off,
• 24:17
  Speaker 13: almost complete, that'll be open by the end of the year.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: So, you know, we're.
• 24:22
  Speaker 13: Celebrating that Auckland Airport's passed that halfway mark and, yeah,
• 24:26
  Speaker 13: it's bubbling away quite nicely.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Fantastic. How's our weather?
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Cloudy.
• 24:29
  Speaker 13: We've got light, light isolated showers, some fine breaks by
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: the afternoon. Relatively warm, 17 the high here in Auckland.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Brilliant, Nevi, you have a great weekend. 18 minutes away
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: from six, you're on Newstalk ZB. By the way, the
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: bond sell-off continues. Who wants to touch a French bond
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: at the moment? Well, not many investors, which is why
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: they're selling them off. So, I mean, they're basically ground zero.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: What they're calling France at the moment in the EU
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: is the sick man, the new sick man of Europe.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: And we've actually spoken about this on the show many
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: times before because of their debt situation. Currently 119% of
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: GDP and no one there wants to cut anything. I
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: want to keep the pensions, want to keep growing the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: pensions every year, increases to the pensions every year. No
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: one has the kahunas or the mandate actually to cut
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: anything in France because they just want to spend, spend, spend.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Third worst in the EU for debt behind Italy and Greece.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: They have been outside the EU debt cap now for years.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: and investors are selling off the bonds, and the bond
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: markets aren't liking what they're hearing. Anyway, there is a
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: plan they announced yesterday to finally not cut pensions, but
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: just not increase pensions, hoping to take the debt from 5.4%
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: to 5% of GDP. It is 16-2. We're in the
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: UK next. 14 to 6, we'll do the campaign in
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: a second. First, Gavin Gray, our UK Europe correspondent. Hundreds
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: of prisoners across England and Wales being released early. It's
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: happening now. Gavin, what's the reaction?
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is indeed, Ryan. And there's a great deal
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: of unhappiness because the minister himself said, look, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: this is no good answers to the problem where we've
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: got prison capacity at 98.2%. In other words... The prisons
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: are nearly full. Eighty seven and a half thousand people
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: are incarcerated. And quite honestly, at this rate, the prisons
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: will get so full that they won't be able to
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: detain anyone. So that's why they've taken this release. It's
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: the first release of 10 scheduled to take place right
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: through the next nine months. Prisoners released initially are serving
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: sentences of up to 19 months. with the most serious offenders,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: those serving fixed sentences of more than 12 years, leaving
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: in later waves. And the problem is, of course, you've
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: got victims who are saying, well, I don't feel safe,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: particularly if it's domestic violence that people are in prison for.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: or they've been stalked or something like that. And then
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: the government says, well, look, we've got electronic tagging, so
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: we're going to really monitor these people that we're worried about.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: But we're already hearing from the probation service, who will
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: be in charge of the monitoring, to say, we don't
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: have sufficient resources to monitor the thousands more criminals that
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: are going out into the community. So there's a great
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: deal of worry about that, a great deal of satisfaction.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: The minister, as I said, says there's no good answer
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: to this. Except they have now been in power for
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: two years. We haven't had any new prisons being built.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: They do say that they are pledging some 15 billion
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: New Zealand dollars in prison building program, but they're saying
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: that capacity will extend by 2031. That's a long time
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: to wait.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a few beds short of a decent prison. Gavin,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: thank you very much for that. Gavin Gray, our UK
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Europe correspondent. By the way, the Bank of England did
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: give a warning about AI. Everyone's been talking about, is
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: it a bubble? Is it overhyped? Is the valuation, the
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: trillions and trillions of dollars that these companies are being
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: valued at? They've said, well, it could trigger some market shocks,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: so we need to be a bit prepared for that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: So a little warning from the Bank of England, 12
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: to 6. Week one of the campaign is down, five
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: weeks to go in counting until the election, and Chippy
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: is on the defence.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Their only answer is cuts.
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: That's it.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, and lying about tax, which is bullshit, by the way.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Chloe wants a job. It's the finance job. What qualifications
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: do you have to be finance minister? What would you say?
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: I have some post-grad study in economics that I've undertaken.
• 28:29
  Speaker 10: I also, much like many other politicians, have been in
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: finance and expenditure select committees.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: The Opportunity Party, well, they've come out with their bottom
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: lines underwhelming, some have said, because there's no land tax,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: no universal basic income.
• 28:41
  Speaker 13: Opportunity will require an end to bottom trawling in sensitive areas,
• 28:46
  Speaker 13: including the Hauraki Gulf, immediately.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: And what does national stand for? No new taxes. Bridget Morton,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: political commentator, good morning.
• 28:56
  Speaker 12: Good morning.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So where are we at with this race so far?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Who's winning? Who's losing? Who's going to win?
• 29:02
  Speaker 12: Well, I definitely think you can see National on the
• 29:04
  Speaker 12: front foot and Labour on the back foot this week.
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: You know, they both started off, I think, with.
• 29:09
  Speaker 12: Strong campaign launches. But ultimately, I don't think Labour got
• 29:13
  Speaker 12: as much from their student loan forgiveness policy as they
• 29:16
  Speaker 12: would have hoped. That seemed to die pretty quickly with
• 29:19
  Speaker 12: people realising that it wouldn't really make that much difference
• 29:22
  Speaker 12: in terms of cost of living. And a bit of
• 29:24
  Speaker 12: pushback too in terms of that new sweary sort of
• 29:27
  Speaker 12: Chris Hipkins as well. People not necessarily seeing that as
• 29:30
  Speaker 12: authentic to who Chris Hipkins is. I think Prefu was
• 29:34
  Speaker 12: obviously very good for National this week as well and
• 29:38
  Speaker 12: now puts the pressure on Labour to actually come out
• 29:41
  Speaker 12: with their numbers.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is something that they, I mean, did they
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: make a critical mistake about a month ago when they
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: came out and said, we're going to do this, we're
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: going to do that, but actually you have to wait
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: for five weeks before we will cost it?
• 29:54
  Speaker 12: I think it's a difficult position for them in terms
• 29:56
  Speaker 12: of that they do need those pre-food numbers. We have
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: really seen some economic shocks, I think, particularly over the
• 30:03
  Speaker 12: last two years, in which they really need to take
• 30:05
  Speaker 12: them into account. I think the problem they've got around
• 30:07
  Speaker 12: their narrative is about what they're doing with pay equity.
• 30:10
  Speaker 12: They have made that promise to reinstate it, but have
• 30:12
  Speaker 12: also said, actually, we're not going to show that number.
• 30:15
  Speaker 12: There's some legitimate reasons for that in terms of negotiation
• 30:18
  Speaker 12: and contingency, but this is the first time that they've
• 30:20
  Speaker 12: sort of said that, and it does create that little
• 30:23
  Speaker 12: bit of distrust, I think, about what exactly their sort
• 30:26
  Speaker 12: of costings will be.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Bridget, what about the rise of the Greens? I mean, look,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: it's a poll, but there has been a bit of
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: a trend over a couple now. The more votes the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Greens get, the bigger their block in that left block,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: then the more likely, surely, that you will have more taxes.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Does that sort of play into Nationals' favour in a
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: way with those swingers?
• 30:49
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think absolutely. And I mean, we're seeing, I think,
• 30:51
  Speaker 12: part of that Greens vote is that trend we're seeing
• 30:54
  Speaker 12: away from the two major parties. So, you know, they
• 30:57
  Speaker 12: are a beneficiary of that fragmentation. I think the thing
• 31:03
  Speaker 12: for Chris Hipkins, and very unhelpful this week with Chloe
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: Swarbrick coming out so strongly that she was going to
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: be finance minister, I think the difficulty for him is
• 31:12
  Speaker 12: that he needs to be able to come back really strongly,
• 31:15
  Speaker 12: that he would not allow any new taxes. But if
• 31:18
  Speaker 12: you've got, you know, the finance minister in waiting saying
• 31:21
  Speaker 12: absolutely new taxes, we have to have new taxes, that's
• 31:24
  Speaker 12: one of our bottom lines. It's really difficult for him
• 31:27
  Speaker 12: to be able to stand up and say, I can't
• 31:29
  Speaker 12: say after, you know, a November election when I'm in
• 31:32
  Speaker 12: a position to negotiate that I can't, you know, that
• 31:35
  Speaker 12: I won't be able to fend this off.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Hey, yes or no, very quickly, will top get 5%?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going.
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: To say yes.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Ooh, OK. I say no, Bridget. Thank you, Bridget Morton,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: who's with us this morning, political commentator. It is eight
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: to six. Newstalk ZB.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeart Radio. Early edition
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business. Technology that keeps
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: business moving.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. Great to have your company. It is Friday morning.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: It's six to six, and Mike's in the studio. Morning, Mike.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Good to see you, Ryan. Very good to see you.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I was looking at the story the other day, and
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I was going to mention it to you, about SUVs.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: You know the Americans love a big SUV.
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: Very much so.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Super-sized one. So the European cars, your BMWs, your Volvos
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: and stuff, are trying to make them even bigger to
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: get into America. You would know this, of course. You
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: should look at the Audi Q9.
• 32:25
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: They launched it on the top of a New York hotel.
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: The Audi Q9 is a seriously large car.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It's their first full-sized SUV, eh? Can I tell?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: No.
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: The Audi have got a Q7.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Is that big?
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: It is a big car. I've owned a Q7. And
• 32:42
  Speaker 10: they've got a Q8, which is a sporty-ish version of
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: the Q7. So the Q7, you would call, is a full-size,
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: big as a Range Rover.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: That's what I want. When I first bought.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Something massive.
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: Let me tell you a car story, Ryan.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: Go on.
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: When I first bought a Rolls-Royce, it was about the only...
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: I need to do this to rack you up. It
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: was the only car that was above five meters long.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Right. Long wheelbase.
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: And I went through this rigmarole of going, I don't
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: know whether I want to buy this because I don't
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: know if I can fit it in the car park.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know if it'll go around the corner, et cetera,
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  Speaker 10: et cetera. These days, every car is above five meters.
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  Speaker 2: And so your.
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  Speaker 10: Q9 is close, I think, from memory to 5.3. You
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  Speaker 10: think about 5.3 metres in getting a car around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think. So I've got an Audi Q6,
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  Speaker 2: is it? You haven't got a Q6.
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  Speaker 10: Have you got an A6?
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  Speaker 2: An A6.
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  Speaker 10: You've got an A6.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's got a long wheelbase.
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  Speaker 10: I'm guessing 4.9.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 10: So you'd be under 5 metres.
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  Speaker 2: My main problem is the height of the ceiling in
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  Speaker 2: a car. Because you know how I've got a long torso?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This one bent over here at the desk. Very much so.
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  Speaker 10: I talk to a lot of people about the length
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  Speaker 10: of your torso.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, my head, when I'm looking out, I'm
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  Speaker 2: half roof.
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  Speaker 7: You need a Q9.
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  Speaker 2: I need a Q9. You need an SUV. I need it.
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  Speaker 10: And so you're a big man and you need a
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  Speaker 10: big car. That's how it rolls. Once again, we can
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  Speaker 10: tell it's Friday, can't we?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we can. But that is the future. Big cars.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what it is?
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  Speaker 10: It came from the Asians who like space. Because their
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: world is so cramped, they like space.
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  Speaker 2: Give me a big, big car for a big boy. Mike, next.
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