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Elon Musk Speaks at CPAC - Classic · Elon Musk Podcast

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Hey everybody. Welcome back to the Elon Musk
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Podcast. This is a show where we discuss
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the critical crossroads, the Shape, SpaceX, Tesla X, The
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Boring Company, and Neurolink. I'm your host, Will Walden.
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Man, that is a big crowd and they are not here for me.
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How you guys doing? Nice vibe this year right after
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the best month we've ever had. Nice to see you all.
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Thanks for coming out. Good to see you.
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I'm not going to kill any more time.
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Let's bring out Elon Musk one second.
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Hey guys, we've got we've got one more.
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We've got one more surprise. In case this wasn't enough, I'm
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going to let Elon do it. Who else is here?
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Well, President, President Malay has a gift for me.
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Javier Malay from Argentina, you guys know where that is, right?
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Why don't we bring him out? This is the chainsaw for
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bureaucracy. Church saw all.
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Right. I love it, Mr. President, thank
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you so much. All right.
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Thank you. Thank you, Sir.
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Nice to meet you. I love it.
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We love it. We love it.
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All right. They told me to put this.
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Right, where should we put it? They want it right here.
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All right, great. A little stage prop.
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I love you guys too. Thanks guys.
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Have a seat. So.
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That was something. I am become meme, Yeah, pretty
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much. I'm just, I'm living the meme.
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I'm it's like this living the dream and there's living the
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meme and it's pretty much what's happening, you know?
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You're like, I think you're. Bigger.
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I mean, doge started out as a meme, think about it.
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And now it's real, isn't that? Crazy it is.
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It is crazy, but it's. Cool.
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Let me ask you this. A year ago, if someone had told
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you you'd be at CPAC and working with the president to absolutely
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shred the government, the swamp, whatever you want to call it,
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would you ever believe that? No.
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No. Me neither, but it's cool.
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This is awesome and and I just want to say, you know, thanks
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for your support. I mean, guys are, you know, so I
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mean, we're, you know, we're trying to get, get good things
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done, but also like, you know, have a good time doing it and,
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you know, and have like a sense of humor, you know, So like, I
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mean, the, the, the sort of the left wanted to make comedy
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illegal. You know, you can't make fun of
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anything. So there's like, comedy sucks.
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It's like nothing's funny. You can't make fun of anything.
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It's like legalize comedy. Yeah, legalize.
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Comedy and we we've, we've shifted the entire culture in
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just the last few months, the whole culture of this country
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has shifted dramatically just because of that election.
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Yeah, exactly. You know, freedom of speech,
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having, you know, having fun again, it seems like we should
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have, we should have a good time, you know?
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It, I mean, it's a great time. Everybody in this place is so
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excited, and I haven't. I mean, when you talk to
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conservatives, everybody's happy.
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Yeah. And everybody feels this great
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sense of relief because we were going to hell for about four
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years. It really felt bad, especially
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toward the end. It felt really bad.
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Yeah, I, I mean, I, I thought we, I, I thought we were sort of
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heading for a point in no return really, you know, until that's
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why I was so essential that President Trump win the election
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and and that there, there be a Republican majority in the House
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and Senate, which thanks to you with that, that has been
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accomplished. Yeah, Yeah.
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I want to ask you one of the biggest questions I have for you
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is and you've been, you know, politically, you weren't really
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on one side or the other for a long time.
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You're a businessman. A lot of people, they stay away
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from it. Now you're on a side and you've
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chosen to side. You're sitting here in a MAGA
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hat. What's how did that happen?
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What was the moments like you? Know dark Gothic Magas.
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That's a good one. What?
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Was there a specific moment? Was there a moment that it all
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changed? Yeah, when I realized it was a
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fool. But no, I I was, I guess, Yeah.
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I mean, I'd say like I was probably politically neutral for
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for quite a while, you know, you know, leaning a little Democrat,
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you know, how do you go from this?
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Yeah, No, no. Well.
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Did they go crazy? Yeah, they did.
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They did go crazy. Yeah, they went crazy.
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No, I mean that whole cancel culture and and you know, it's
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trying to stop freedom of speech and infringe upon just in
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general infringe upon people's personal freedoms.
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You know, they just want state control, state control what you
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say they want to, you know, take away your your guns and the
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reason I want to take away your guns, so like there's nothing
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you do to oppose them. So it's sort of like, you know,
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I just, I just like, we just need to restore the fundamental
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elements of what made America great, which is freedom and
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opportunity. We're seeing a lot of these
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freedoms disappearing in the West.
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It's, it's not just about America.
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We're watching, we're all watching Europe and knowing that
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they're about 5000 years ahead of us, right?
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Because they got an early start and we're watching how they're
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devolving. And you're trying to save it
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from happening here. I mean, in Europe they put
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people in prison for memes, you know?
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I'm like, that's insane. And they're collapsing.
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I mean, there's a society is it's a collapsing society.
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It feels that way. It feels like.
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France was nicer 50 years ago than it is today.
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Yeah, I don't think you can question that.
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Yeah, so. But yeah, I mean really.
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Thanks. I love you too.
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I mean. I really, I really just wanted
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to do useful things like, you know, basically build products,
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you know, provide products and services that that are that are
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good and that that I wasn't really like that interested in
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being political. It just like there was at a
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certain point no choice. So.
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Yeah. Can I, can I ask you what it on
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the same side of that coin? What's it like from going
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neutral to being vilified, largely vilified by the media?
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I think you're what? No.
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Really. I mean, turn on some of these
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channels, brother. I mean, they don't.
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They're angry. Does it?
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Bother you at all this little good to you, I.
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Mean when they're chanting for my death, I suppose that's a
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little, you know, not good. And then, like, the song's not
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even that good. And it's like, like you call
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that a death chant? That's nothing, please.
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They've been singing a lot. Even good music.
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There's a lot of music lately. It's not good music either.
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Yeah, I would say that they're, you know, watching what you're
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doing with Doge. Is is just that people love it.
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I mean, I I've always looked at the government and I've, I've
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always looked at the government. I've seen this big machine that
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and you just know that they waste because they don't care.
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Nobody could just more money coming.
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They don't care. You're cutting all this out.
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Everybody in this country knows that the government is full of
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waste, fraud and abuse and you're doing the work and the
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Americans love it. Watching their reaction
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politically to this, I can't believe how bad they are at
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responding to this. I don't know how you're going to
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sit there and and scream and complain because they're cutting
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waste out of the government and try to win another election.
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How do you how do you try to win on that?
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Well, I'm at this point, I'm like, I'm not sure how much of
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the left is even real, you know? How much was propped up by our
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money, you know? Yeah, yeah.
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Like literally, you know, you see like these these sort of
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fake rallies where there's like hardly any people and the media
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will like frame it and like, you know, get all six people, you
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know, in the frame. But it's like nobody else is
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there. Like just it's, it doesn't have
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popular support. But but but there's but, but
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then you, then you, you learn that like there's hundreds of
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billions of dollars going to be so-called NGOs that, that, that
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and it's your tax dollars that are funding things that are
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fundamentally anti American. And, and they're propping up
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their narrative. Yes, a lot of that government
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money has been propping up a left that I don't think is as
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strong as they made it seem. In fact, a massive amount of of
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your tax dollars is going to legacy media companies directly
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from the from from the. Government.
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The government wants to take over media.
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Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah.
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That's why we have X. Yeah, and that's.
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That's why you spent $44 billion.
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I mean, there's a lot of money. I mean.
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More than it was probably worth, but it had a There was a
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message. Freedom is priceless.
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Priceless. Yeah, probably one of the most
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important investments this country's ever seen.
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If you got to protect the 1st Amendment, it's not much more
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important than that. Yeah, I got a lot of criticism
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and people said, well, that proves he is a huge idiot from
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a, you know, like, look, you know, you voted for whatever,
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$44 billion and now it's worth like $0.08 and.
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It's not worth $0.08. But but, you know, there's that.
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But but the yeah, it was it was essentially to, you know, buy
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freedom of expression and. Yeah, that's gone.
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It's all. Over.
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Yeah, it's all over. Yeah, into tyrannies really
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quick after that. Yeah, I mean, like, you know,
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it's all the all the sort of federal money going to media
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companies is what what helps explain why the legacy media all
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says the same thing at the same time.
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Yeah. Like isn't it like it's like
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weird, Like you can put them up where it's like, you know, like
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when they. They're mouthpieces for for the
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state. For the state, yes.
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And that's that's what we've come to know.
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Yeah, scary. And and I like that that mean
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when they whether because they're always saying like
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threat to our democracies, that threat to.
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But if you just replaced democracy with bureaucracy,
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yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Makes perfect sense.
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Yeah, big threat to the bureaucracy.
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That's exactly right. Let's talk about, let's talk
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about these DOGE dividend checks that everybody's talking about
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this week. And I know you tweeted out that
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you're going to, does everybody want like a $5000 check in the
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mail? It sounds kind of good, right?
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And and the best part about it would be knowing where it came
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from that that's 5 grand that you sent them last year.
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Totally. It's it's, it's, it's money
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that's taken away from from things that are destructive to
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the country that and from organizations that hate you to
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you. That's awesome.
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Is it does it seem like, I mean, have you talked?
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I mean, that's like glorious, but this is, that's like the
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spoils of battle, you know? I like that.
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Is there? Is there traction on that?
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Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, yeah, I took the
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president, he's supportive of that.
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And so it sounds like, you know, that's something we're we're
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going to do. Yep.
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So as as we're finding savings, that's going to translate
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directly to reductions in tax. So yeah.
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I mean, I think they fired 6000 people at the IRS today.
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And I think what Nick said last night that he, they're talking
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about shutting down the IRS. And I think it's fair.
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I think people should realize this is, I mean, the amount of
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money that we said we send Washington like 5 or 6 trillion
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a year, that is such an ungodly amount of money.
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I mean, what are they? They say like a trillion seconds
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is like 30 years or something like that.
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I mean, that's how much we send them.
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And they seem to never have enough.
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There's must be a lot you can cut.
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No, absolutely. People ask me what's the most
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surprising thing that you've encountered when you go to DC?
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You know, we're in DC and I said, well, the most surprising
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thing is the scale of the expenditures and actually how
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easy it is to with a just just what when you add caring and
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competence where it was absent before, you can actually save
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billions of dollars sometimes in this in an hour like it's it's
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wild. And then they scoff at it and
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say, oh, a few billion here, there.
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I mean, the way they're talking about it, they, they, you can
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see they don't care. It's, it's so it's such little
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money compared to how much they're used to wasting.
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That's what's really scary. Yeah, no, I mean, it's exactly,
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but obviously it's, it's, it just shows that they they really
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lack empathy for the average taxpayer who's working hard,
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paying, paying taxes. And then and then they say, oh,
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$1,000,000 doesn't matter. I'm like, I think it matters a
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lot people, you know, So what are you talking about?
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I'd like to have it. Let me ask you a question.
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I, you know, I know the president fairly well.
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Watched him survive 2 assassination attempts.
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The second. Had the first one not happened,
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the second one would have gotten him.
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You know, it was very because without those extra guys, they
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would have never seen that gun poking through the fence at the
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golf course. I saw the crew that you the.
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Crew that you mind blowing that this has happened.
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I mean it just and and what by the way, why do we still know
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nothing about that guy in Butler?
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What's going on? But he's.
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He's. Cash is going to get to the
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bottom of it, yeah. There you go.
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By the way, yeah. Confirm, confirm just a couple
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hours ago, but I I saw that the security detail that you had
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come in is, is enormous. That enormous.
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Maybe it should be bigger. I think you could probably
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afford it, but I mean, how concerned are you about your
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safety dealing? I mean, it's you are you are a
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wanted man. Are you?
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Are you enormous? So I look, I'm open to ideas for
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improving security. I have to tell you, like, I, I
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don't actually have a death wish.
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I think I, but, but you know, it's not that easy.
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So yeah, I mean, yeah, but, but I have like I've had even like
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people like President Buchelli from El Salvador who, who
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managed to put in prison like like 100,000 like murderous
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thugs. And and he was like, he called
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me. He's like, I'm worried about
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your security. I'm like, you're worried about
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my security. I'm like, what?
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OK, you know. I mean, yeah, talk about guts to
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do that down there. I mean, yeah, totally.
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And and survive. I'm like, I was like, how did
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you put all those thugs in prison without dying?
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Because it seems like that would have been not easy, you know?
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Well, there's a the, the, the president has one of his top
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attorneys is now investigating, I guess Chuck Schumer for
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threats against SCOTUS congressman on the Democrat side
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who's saying, you know, basically saying you're going to
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bring a war to you, like a fight to you.
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I mean the rhetoric. You guys are screwing with
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things that are not supposed to be messed with.
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And we're fighting the Matrix. A lot of people that really
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don't want that to happen. Yeah, we're fighting the Matrix
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big time here. Yeah, but it has got to be done.
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Yeah, and are. Are you?
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It certainly does. What's what's going on with tell
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us about Fort Knox? Yeah, is Kentucky.
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It's a military base. It's a ton of gold.
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Tons and tons and tons of Gold 5. 1000 tons of gold.
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Or 5000 or 10 are there in the ground and like this I mean it's
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a very secure thing you. All want to see it you.
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Know I'd love to see. It like this is your gold, by
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the way, it's the public's goal do.
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You think it's not there? I don't know, but I think.
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Just want to see it. Yeah, we want to go see it and
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just make sure like somebody did a spray paint some lad or
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something, you know? Yeah, like is this real gold
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bite the bar, You know, didn't. But I think honestly, you know,
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part of this also is just like, let's let's you know, let's have
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some fun. And and and you know, like, like
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I said, this, this oldest gold at Fort Knox, it's the public's
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gold. It's your gold.
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So like, I think you have like a right to see it.
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You want to take a tour, You know, Yeah.
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I think we should have it, do it, do it tour.
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And the president last night was like, that's all.
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I think he's in favor of it. That would be cool.
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And then we, like, should be like a live tour.
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Like you can see what's going on, open the door like what's
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behind it. Well, and there's, you know, I
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think. I'd watch that.
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Oh, are you kidding? Yeah.
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I mean, what is? What is 5000 tons of gold?
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What is? The big is it?
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Is it? Is it the size of this?
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Got to be pretty big, you know? It's got to be a lot of.
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People, there's some other stuff in there, like it's walk around.
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Like, I don't know, maybe I got some other stuff in there.
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Are you thinking about auditing the Federal Reserve as well?
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Which is obviously, Yeah, sure. Regular regulatory economy.
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I I imagine you think the waste has got to be.
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Everywhere, yeah, no waste. Waste is pretty much everywhere.
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People ask like, how can you find waste in in like in DC?
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I'm like, look, it's like being in a room and this target, the
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wall, the roofs and the floor are all targets.
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So it's like you're going to close your eyes and go shoot in
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any direction. You can't miss, you know, So
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it's, it's, it's pretty wild, like like you just push on
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things a little bit and, and you save billions of dollars, like
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just a little bit, you know, it's.
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Wild. It's scary, isn't?
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It that's why I say like it really is underrated.
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If you add caring and competence, how much things
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improve. Yeah, and, and, you know, and we
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said we just find so many totally crazy things at which,
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you know, we're obviously we're sharing with the public.
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We post everything we learn, you know, just, you know, so you can
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see it, you know, what do you, It's like, isn't it Like it's
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totally wild. Like we did just, we just did
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like a check the database on Social Security, like says how
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many a lot Americans alive, Americans eligible for Social
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Security are there. And according to the database,
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it's over 400 million. And we're like, wait a second.
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And how many are getting open again?
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Yeah, and and then like we found like one person in there is like
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360 years old. I'm like, what did they know
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been? 100 years for the Revolution.
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Yeah, you know there's America didn't exist before at that time
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like so I so. Yeah, we were colonies.
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You know, maybe it's just me, but I think it's a red flag.
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I don't know. But are there indications that
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those that there were checks going to those people or any of
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those people? Well, yes.
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I guess the question right this, I mean, I get the Social
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Security Administration is dumb, but are they paying these
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people? Are they that dumb?
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I don't know. A bunch of money is going out
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for the Social Security Administration and in fact, from
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all entitlements programs 70. 2 billion in waste in like 7
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years. That's ten billion a year.
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Well, I I think the the. Fraudulent payments.
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The the rough or estimate from general Government
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Accountability offices on as over $500 billion a 40 year.
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If I. 500 billion. And how long at the time?
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Of per year. Per year on on Social Security.
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No, no on on all. On all government.
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On all entitlements. All entitlements.
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All entitlements, yeah. Yeah, it sort of actually makes
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sense when you look at the thing from a top level and say like,
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OK, the $7 trillion was spending by the government.
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What percentage do you think is fraudulent?
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OK, exactly. Like a conservative estimate of
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the 7 trillion would be 10%. Conservative, probably a little
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higher than that, you know, exactly.
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Feels like 1/4 out every dollar. Right.
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But if if the fraud's only 10% of 7 trillion, you've got $700
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billion of fraud. Yeah.
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And by the way, it's like really easy to take advantage of the
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federal government. It's very easy.
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Very easy look at COVID. Yes.
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Everybody got rich during COVID. I mean, look at all these
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scares. I mean, it's unbelievable.
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We. We, it looks like for, in terms
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of the COVID payments, there was something like $200 billion of,
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of COVID payment fraud taken by fraudsters out of the country.
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That's like, I think, listen, if there's going to be fraud, it
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should at least be domestic. So you know, but they managed to
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get $200 billion out of the country.
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I'm like, what? Didn't we notice that?
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Let me ask you, let's do immigration here for a second.
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You know, there's this move now that the Trump's latest thing is
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that he cut, he's going to cut funding any kind of money that
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ends up in the hands of illegal immigrants.
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So if you're funding these sanctuary cities and states,
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that's how right, right. They're paying for these hotels.
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That's all federal money. If you got a hotel in your city
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in New York, you got all these hotels full of migrants.
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That's not state money. That's the feds are covering
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that. He's going to cut all that.
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It's really hard to deport 15,000,000 people.
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And it seems like the move now is let's see if we, especially
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at the rate that we're going, it seems like the move now is let's
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make it so that they leave on their own.
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If there's no longer a dole system for them, if they can't
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get their hands on hotel rooms and money, they're going to go
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back, especially if there's no work.
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Well, I think it's really important for people to
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understand that the the Biden administration sent any possible
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money that they could. They could if if there was money
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they could send to facilitate and amplify illegal immigration,
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they sent it OK. They took money from FEMA meant
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for helping Americans in distress and sent that money to
22:52
luxury hotels for illegal immigrants in New York.
22:56
That is a an outrage. They actually did that.
23:02
And and not only that, even after president signed an
23:05
executive order saying it has to stop the FEMA the the the sort
23:10
of whatever deep state bureaucrats still still pressed
23:13
send on $80 million last week to go to the Roosevelt Hotel in New
23:18
York and other places last week and now and now they're mad that
23:23
they've got stopped and they're like trying to sue to have it be
23:26
restored. It's like the gumption you.
23:29
Think you think they're creating a new voter classes?
23:31
Would you think that was the goal when they open up the
23:33
orders for four years, create a new voter class, get them
23:35
citizenship, get them in. Yeah, 3 cards vote.
23:39
A lot of these things like you don't actually have to assume
23:41
some grand conspiracy. You just need to look at basic
23:45
incentives, benefits. So if the incentives, the
23:48
fundamentally if the probability that an illegal is going to vote
23:52
Democrat at some point, whether it's a, you know, cheating, but
23:57
eventually that can become citizens.
23:58
But if the probability is like 8090%, just look at California
24:02
which is super majority Dem and then the incentive is to
24:07
maximize the number of illegals in the country.
24:10
That is why the Biden administration was pushing to
24:14
get in this as many illegals as possible and spend every dollar
24:18
possible to get as many because every one of them is a customer,
24:21
everyone is a voter. So the whole thing is a giant
24:26
voter importation scam. Pretty obvious.
24:29
Very obvious. And then they moreover then
24:32
they, they, they actually created the CVP 1 border app
24:35
thing where they were, which is like where they could, they
24:38
would literally fly people in. It's not like like at the point
24:41
at which you know, people being flown in at, at your expense.
24:45
Sending planes. Building a wall up doesn't.
24:48
Fly them over the border. Yeah, they're literally flying
24:50
them in. No other, no other country in
24:52
the world would do something like this.
24:53
Nobody is this stupid. Yeah.
24:54
And, and then we found that it was like $100 million contract
24:59
given to some guy in London actually oddly enough for the
25:04
CVP One app. So, so then so they're flying
25:09
illegals into the swing states. Yeah.
25:12
And, and if you've got like a margin of victory of maybe
25:16
20,000 people and you fly 200,000 illegals into that
25:20
state, it's not going to be a swing state for long.
25:24
Change the numbers eventually, yeah, maybe in four or eight
25:27
years you're exactly it's. Just a matter it's a.
25:29
Long game it's. Just a matter of time.
25:31
Yeah. So it might take like a year for
25:33
a sound secret or something to get on the to get get a green
25:36
card and then five years for the citizenship.
25:38
It's it's it's an investment that is guaranteed to pay off.
25:41
Yeah. Just a question of when.
25:42
They all remember who brought them in and who left them here.
25:44
Exactly, exactly. I want to go back.
25:46
I want to talk. About big deal.
25:47
Like, I think a lot of people like don't quite appreciate that
25:50
this was an actual real scam at scale to tilt the scales of
25:55
democracy in America. It's.
25:57
Treason. Treason.
25:58
Yeah, one more Biden question. I I remember when, you know,
26:03
when when they would do the electric car stuff, they would
26:04
always try to box you out even though you have the only
26:06
electric car anybody wants. Yeah, you you said, I think this
26:11
week that you think that Biden left these astronauts up in
26:15
space because he didn't want to give you an opportunity to save
26:17
them, make NASA look bad, make the private sector look better,
26:20
make you look good. You believe that?
26:23
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So of course.
26:27
I kind of agree. I mean, I why would he want to
26:30
let you help them come down when you're supporting?
26:33
The president, the Biden administration was was attacking
26:35
me next level. I mean the Department of of
26:38
Justice or injustice under the Biden administration was I mean,
26:43
there was suing SpaceX. There's they're suing SpaceX for
26:47
not hiring asylum seekers and we're like, but it's actually
26:52
illegal for us to hire up silent seekers because we're rocket
26:56
technology is covered under ITAR rules, which is that means it's
27:00
an advanced weapons technology. And so we can only hire
27:04
permanent residents or green or or orchestra citizens like so.
27:07
So we're damned if we do it, damned if we don't.
27:09
We said like, so how can they sue us for not hiring asylum
27:15
seekers when it's actually illegal for us to do so?
27:17
But nonetheless, there was a big Department of Justice or
27:19
Injustice case about this against SpaceX.
27:22
So obviously it was an antagonistic situation.
27:26
And those astronauts were supposed to be up there for 8
27:29
days, and now they're up for eight months.
27:31
Does that make any sense? And, and, and we, we obviously
27:35
could have brought them back sooner, but they didn't want it
27:38
to, didn't want anyone who supported President Trump to
27:41
look good basically. Yeah, that's the, that's the,
27:43
that's the issue. The, a lot of them are saying
27:48
right now that the reason that you want to get into Social
27:51
Security, that you want to get into all of these different,
27:53
into treasury and things like that, is that you're looking for
27:55
personal information and you're trying to make more money.
27:57
Yeah, I I've never met anybody as rich as you that cared less
28:00
about money in my life. Every time I hear a story about
28:03
you, you're sleeping on a couch of some other guy in a city that
28:06
you could buy the entire thing. Yeah, I'm not I.
28:09
Don't think you care about money, do you?
28:11
No, actually, I mean listen like if I if I steal some Social
28:19
Security I can finally buy nice things.
28:24
And, and, and on that same question, they're also talking
28:28
about you guys are going to end Social Security, you're going to
28:30
end Medicare, you're going to end these things.
28:33
I, I don't imagine that conversation has been had with
28:35
the president and that's, that's the plan.
28:37
No, in fact, the actions that we're taking with the support of
28:41
the president and the support of the agencies is what will save
28:44
Medicare, what will save Social Security.
28:52
And and it's it's because if the country goes insolvent, if, if,
28:59
if all the if all the money is just spent on paying interest on
29:01
debt, there's no money left for anything.
29:03
Yeah. So that's that's the reason I'm
29:05
doing this is because I was looking at the big picture here.
29:08
And it's like, man, our debt's getting out of control.
29:11
The the interest payments, the interest on the national debt
29:14
now exceeds the entire Defense Department budget.
29:17
A. Trillion a year in interest just
29:19
to carry the money that we owe is a trillion a year.
29:22
That is unbelievable. And rising rapidly.
29:24
So. So like it's, I mean, the
29:26
country's not different from a person country overspends,
29:29
country goes bankrupt, same with the same as a person who
29:31
overspends goes bankrupt. So it's it's not like optional
29:36
to solve these things, it's essential.
29:39
So we're going to go bankrupt? Yes, we are.
29:44
Couple minutes left here, Russia there's a huge push from.
29:49
The Oh yeah, yeah. People like, sort of like to end
29:51
this war, say like, you know, I, I'm, I'm a, I'm a bored asset of
29:56
Putin. I'm like he can't afford me.
29:58
Yeah, I think, I think you're worth more than Russia.
30:01
Think about it. So what we're you're trying to
30:09
end, you're trying to end a war. It's all any war always means.
30:13
You have to compromise. You have to negotiate with an
30:16
enemy or an adversary. That's just what it is.
30:19
And right now, they are lambasting the president for
30:22
trying a different method to a war that they haven't been able
30:24
to end for 3 1/2 years or three years.
30:26
They, you know, they're saying Trump's blaming Zielinski for
30:29
the invasion. How do you how do you process
30:33
all of the negativity toward him for trying to end this war?
30:38
Well, first of all, I think we should have empathy for the
30:41
people dying at the front lines. That's the most important thing.
30:44
And people have been dying. You know, it's like, how many
30:49
more years is this supposed to go on?
30:51
And imagine if that was your son, your father, you know, what
30:55
are what are they dying for? What exactly are they dying for?
30:58
That line that has the line of engagement has barely moved for
31:02
two years. There's a whole bunch of people
31:06
dead in trenches for what? And I'll tell you what, for what
31:09
it's like for the biggest graft machine that I've ever seen in
31:11
my life. That's for what it's, it's
31:16
unreal. Like the amount of money that is
31:18
that is being taken in Grafton bribery is, is disgusting.
31:23
And, and so what's actually happening is that those, those,
31:28
you know, people, those poor guys are getting sent into a
31:31
meat grinder for money. That's what's actually going on
31:35
and it needs to stop. And that's, I mean, that's it,
31:38
it seems. I mean, Trump is so pragmatic on
31:41
this. It, it just, he's just looking
31:43
at it and he's saying it's Ukraine.
31:45
It's not our country, it's not a NATO ally.
31:46
I just want to see people not dying.
31:48
I want to see on both sides just I mean, think about how many
31:50
young, so many young men have died in Ukraine that the army is
31:53
starting to age out. The military is aging out.
31:55
You got 40 and 50 year old guys fighting in a war because
31:58
there's nobody left that's not killed or maimed in their 20s.
32:02
That's the reality of the think about how many people that is.
32:05
If you're a humanitarian at all, you just got to end the war.
32:08
Like no matter what, just get it over with.
32:11
Yes, people, they need to stop dying and and and the gruff
32:16
machines got to stop, you know, so and I think people it they
32:20
don't a lot of people out there don't realize like the president
32:23
has a lot of empathy. He really cares, you know, he's
32:25
a good, he's a good man, so. I got one more for you.
32:33
I've been fascinated by you for a very long time.
32:36
Thanks. I've just, I just, I've never
32:39
seen anybody that can, you know, do so many things at the same
32:42
time. I mean, you've got the Rockets,
32:43
you got the cars. I've always wanted to ask you,
32:46
what is it like inside your mind like this?
32:48
Is it just 1000 miles an hour? I mean, are you.
32:51
Yeah. Is it just not.
32:53
I mean, this. Does it ever stop?
32:54
Do you sleep? How much do you sleep?
32:56
What's paint us a picture of inside of of the mind of a
33:02
genius? Like, how do you.
33:03
How? Do you do all?
33:05
This can you answer that question?
33:07
It's not an easy question, yeah. I mean, my mind is a storm, so
33:14
it's a storm. But but I mean, let me maybe
33:18
tell you something like you didn't ask the question, but but
33:21
I think it's worth kind of nonetheless, maybe just just
33:24
elaborating on something, which is, you know, I grew up in in
33:29
South Africa and but my morality was informed by America.
33:35
I read comic books, you know, play Dungeons and Dragons and,
33:41
and I watched American TV shows and it like, it seemed like
33:51
America cared about being the good guys, you know, about doing
33:54
the right thing. And, and, and that's actually
34:01
pretty unusual, by the way. It's like, it's like in the
34:04
world. It's very unusual.
34:05
Yeah, it's not like actually. Those countries don't do that.
34:08
No, they don't. No.
34:10
And so I was like, yeah, you know, you, you want to be this
34:13
good, you want to be on the side of good, you want to care about
34:15
what's right. And, and yeah, so that's,
34:21
that's, yeah, what I believe in, you know, so.
34:27
I gave you, I gave you a tough one at the end.
34:31
Yeah. So yeah.
34:35
That's great. That's great, Elon Musk.
34:36
All right, Thank you. Thank you so much.
34:38
All right. I
34:50
appreciate it. Thanks.
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