Is a classless society impossible? Plus, fresh dirt on the Cambridge Five spies

Late Night Live — Full program podcast · Aug 19, 2026 · 54m

German philosopher Hanno Sauer argues that class hierarchies are a permanent feature of human societies. So if true equality is elusive, how do we live with class? Plus new revelations on the Cambridge Five - the young men who spied against Britain from the 1930s to the 1950s.

Guests:

Hanno Sauer, Associate Professor of Philosophy at the Department of Philosophy & Religious Studies at Utrecht University. Guest of the Festival of Dangerous Ideas in Sydney

Antonia Senior, author, journalist and co-host of the History Book Buffs podcast. New book is Stalin’s Apostles: The Cambridge Five and the…