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260. Sophie Cunningham, WNBA Player · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: I think my mindset shifted when I stopped competing and
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Speaker 1: being competitive and comparing myself to others, And now I
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Speaker 1: just like compare myself to myself, like I want to
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Speaker 1: outdo me, Like I'm my biggest competition, Like I don't
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Speaker 1: care who you put in front of me. I know
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Speaker 1: everything about myself. I know my good and I know
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Speaker 1: my bad, and I'm my biggest competition.
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Speaker 2: What's going on? Everyone?
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Speaker 3: Emily A body here. You are listening to episode two
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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast. Reconnect
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Speaker 3: with everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts and
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Speaker 3: industry CEOs about their highest hies, toughest moments, and everything
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Speaker 3: in between. We all go through hurdles in life, and
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Speaker 3: my goal through these discussions is to empower you to
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Speaker 3: better navigate yours and move with intentions so that you
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Speaker 3: can strive towards your own big potential and of course
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Speaker 3: have some fun along the way. For today's episode number
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Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty, I am chatting with Sophie Cunningham.
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Speaker 3: She is a w NBA player for the Phoenix Mercury
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Speaker 3: and honestly an all around powerhouse. We chat about so
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Speaker 3: much goodness in today's episode, from what it was like
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Speaker 3: growing up in Missouri and indulging in the farm life
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Speaker 3: to coming into her own as an athlete, what it
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Speaker 3: felt like to put the blinders on, shut out the
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Speaker 3: quote unquote haters, and focus on her craft, working as
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Speaker 3: hard as possible day in and day out through college.
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Speaker 2: All the way to the WNBA.
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Speaker 3: Sophie talks to me about her passion for volunteering to
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Speaker 3: lift up the next generation through both the tournament that
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Speaker 3: she contributes to called the Sophie Cunningham Classic, as well
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Speaker 3: as her work with young women's basketball teams. She also
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Speaker 3: shared with me how amped she is to get her
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Speaker 3: feet wet with some broadcast work, getting behind the mic
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Speaker 3: to work with the Phoenix Suns broadcast team, a new
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Speaker 3: venture for the twenty six year old, and of course
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Speaker 3: we talk about nutrition. We were brought together by her
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Speaker 3: sponsor at Quest, so naturally we talk about our favorite
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Speaker 3: Quest Bar flavors, and how it feels for her to
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Speaker 3: be playing in Phoenix alongside some of the greats in
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Speaker 3: the game. I'm talking about both Diana Torrassi and Brittany Griner.
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Speaker 3: Many of you know Brittany's story from over the past
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Speaker 3: year two years. Sophie opens up about what it was
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Speaker 3: like to stand by her teammate and how they all
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Speaker 3: truly have one another's backs. I love her attitude, I
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Speaker 3: love how fierce she is, and most of all, I
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Speaker 2: Today.
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Speaker 3: I am sitting down with Sophie Cunningham. She is a
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Speaker 3: pro WNBA player for the Phoenix. How are you doing today, Sophie,
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Speaker 3: so good.
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Speaker 4: I'm so excited for this and to chat with you
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Speaker 4: a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I am so excited for this too.
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Speaker 3: You are a busy person by the nature of the
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Speaker 3: fact that you typically play so many games every week,
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Speaker 3: so I just want to like take a down step
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Speaker 3: really quick and ask you, how are you doing really today?
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Speaker 4: Well? Thank you.
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy you asked that, because I think when
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Speaker 1: you get when you are in the school terms like hey,
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Speaker 1: how are you?
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Speaker 4: Oh? Good bye?
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Speaker 1: You know, so it's just kind of a small talk.
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Speaker 1: But to be honest, I'm good. Like it's hot here
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Speaker 1: in Arizona. I was at the pool yesterday. My only
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Speaker 1: downfalls I have a broken finger right now, it's part
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Speaker 1: of it, but no, my family's coming down soon, and
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Speaker 1: so I'm in a good spot.
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Speaker 2: I'm happy with the broken finger.
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Speaker 3: How does that impact your game and does that tweak
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Speaker 3: you being able to get on the court?
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Speaker 1: Not really, to be honest, because it's my off hand
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Speaker 1: and so if people watch me play, I have like
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Speaker 1: a claw out there, like it looks awful and I
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Speaker 1: should probably get my nails done because you know it's
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Speaker 1: drawing attention, but whatever.
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Speaker 4: But no, it's good.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the pressure of the ball sometimes hurts, but
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Speaker 1: when you're in it and your agentalin's going, it's all good.
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Speaker 2: It's all good. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I've watched your like your shooting style lately, and it
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Speaker 3: is certainly a little bit different.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit.
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Speaker 1: I let that thing fly, you know, I don't sometimes
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Speaker 1: I'm not set.
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Speaker 4: You know, it is what it is.
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Speaker 1: But as long as it goes in, I'm not worried
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Speaker 1: about it.
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Speaker 2: Is it safe to say that you love what you're
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Speaker 2: doing right now?
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes, Like, I just think, to be honest,
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Speaker 1: we're going through a heck of a year right now.
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Speaker 1: We got a new head coach, we just got a
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Speaker 1: new GM, we got new ownership last year with matt
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Speaker 1: Ishbia and he's absolutely amazing and the people he's brought
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Speaker 1: in are really, really good people. And I think we're
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Speaker 1: just kind of in that transition year where it's a
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Speaker 1: grind right now and it's just one of those years
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Speaker 1: that you kind of have to find the joy in it,
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Speaker 1: find the beauty. It's definitely in a valley. But I
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Speaker 1: think there's so much growth and so much beauty when
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Speaker 1: when you're struggling, and so it's just kind of that
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Speaker 1: growth mindset, that positive mindset through these times. It's definitely
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Speaker 1: testing our character. But for me, I don't look at
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Speaker 1: failures as a negative thing. I think when you're kind
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Speaker 1: of going through it is when you learn a lot
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Speaker 1: about yourself and about the culture and environment that you're
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Speaker 1: working in.
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Speaker 3: You're on the right podcast, lady, So talk to me
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Speaker 3: a little bit about where that mindset comes from for you.
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Speaker 3: Have you always been the kind of person that's able
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Speaker 3: to see the silver lining and the positives from a
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Speaker 3: struggle or has this been a thought process or a
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Speaker 3: mindset that has been acquired with time.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely been. Our family are very positive people. We're
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Speaker 1: actually farmers. I grew up in Columbia, Missouri, and so
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Speaker 1: farming there's a lot of beauty in it, but it's
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Speaker 1: hard work. Like I think everyone in their lives should
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Speaker 1: go be a farmer for.
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Speaker 4: Two days two and a half days, and I.
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Speaker 1: Think you'd have a different perspective on life just a
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Speaker 1: little bit. But our family, we're all very competitive. We
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Speaker 1: have a lot of positive people, a lot of positive
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Speaker 1: male figures in our life, a lot of positive female
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Speaker 1: figures in our life, and so me and my sister
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Speaker 1: got very blessed with our environment growing up, and so yeah,
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Speaker 1: we always kind of saw the positive and things, but
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Speaker 1: it's not always easy, and especially when you're really going
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Speaker 1: through it, it's hard. Like before All Star Break, I
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Speaker 1: was like, what am I doing with my life? Like
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Speaker 1: this is not fun. I was going through a rut.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't throw the ball into the ocean. I swear
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Speaker 1: to God I couldn't. And I was just like, this
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Speaker 1: is awful, Like why did I work so hard for this?
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Speaker 1: But for me, you know, I have a great faith
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Speaker 1: in God, and I know that you know you're not
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Speaker 1: going to stay down there and you're learning something through
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Speaker 1: those things. And so for me, that's what keeps me going,
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Speaker 1: that's what keeps me motivated, is because I'm learning something
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Speaker 1: through these valleys and through these hard times. And for me,
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Speaker 1: I want to be a great leader. I want to
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Speaker 1: be a great teammate. I want to be someone who's
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Speaker 1: great in the community. And you're not always going to
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Speaker 1: be on top. Not everything is always going to be
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Speaker 1: rainbows and butterflies, And so I think that when you
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Speaker 1: can really embrace those struggles, that's part of the story,
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Speaker 1: and that the struggle is what makes it even more beautiful.
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Speaker 3: Definitely, No, totally makes sense. You talk about this sentiment,
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Speaker 3: what did I work so hard for for this? Why
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Speaker 3: did I work so hard? And if it's going to
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Speaker 3: be like this, talk to us a little bit about
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Speaker 3: that work. When did you know that this was going
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Speaker 3: to be the path that you would be pursuing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, to be honest, I think from a very young age,
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Speaker 1: I always wanted to be a professional basketball player, and
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Speaker 1: I found success at a really young age. You know,
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Speaker 1: even at the age of five, I was playing soccer
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Speaker 1: on a boys team and the boys parents were getting
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Speaker 1: mad at me, and my parents are like, she's too aggressive,
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Speaker 1: she's too physical, And my parents had to carry my
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Speaker 1: birth certificate around and be like, no, she's actually the
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Speaker 1: boy's age. You know, she's just a great athlete. So
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Speaker 1: you know, give her some props a little bit. And
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Speaker 1: so I wish I was better at school. I wish
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Speaker 1: I took it more seriously because when I put my
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Speaker 1: mind as something, I can do it right. But my
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Speaker 1: mind was always making it to the WNBA. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of ups and downs. There. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot of moments in high school that were hard. You
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Speaker 1: missed out on a ton of things. There's a lot
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Speaker 1: of stuff in college. There are people who were giving
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Speaker 1: me threats to take my life and to take my parents' life.
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Speaker 1: Like I really stirred the pot in college, Like I
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Speaker 1: don't know what I did, but I mean, it's part
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Speaker 1: of it, right. And then once I got here, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think through the struggle. My first couple of years
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Speaker 1: in the WNBA, I really didn't play much. I was
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Speaker 1: Diana Tarassi's sub when she was hurt. I would go
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Speaker 1: in when she needed a breathere, I went in and
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Speaker 1: I've never been something to come off the bench, and
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Speaker 1: so it was like a whole new territory for me
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Speaker 1: because I've always been a starter through high school through college,
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Speaker 1: and so it was something I had to learn. But
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Speaker 1: through that process, I got in the gym every single
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Speaker 1: day and I made sure I got one percent better.
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Speaker 1: And so I stayed persistent, even though I didn't like
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Speaker 1: where I was at. I still had to put in
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Speaker 1: the work because I knew that eventually it was my
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Speaker 1: hard work was going to show and it was going
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Speaker 1: to pay off, and during this runt a couple or
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Speaker 1: a month ago, I had to have that same mindset
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Speaker 1: I had five years ago, because I was like, what
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Speaker 1: the heck is going on? Like I'm known as a shooter,
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Speaker 1: and I sears I could even make a layup, like
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Speaker 1: I have no idea what was going on. But I
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Speaker 1: still got in every day and I just made sure
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Speaker 1: that I was putting in the work because the ball
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Speaker 1: doesn't lie. And I hated putting in the work, but
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Speaker 1: sometimes you have to still do it even when it's
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Speaker 1: not fun.
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Speaker 3: So much to double click on here first and foremost
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Speaker 3: were people coming for you because of the way that
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Speaker 3: you played in high.
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Speaker 1: School that I was just feisty. I still am, but
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Speaker 1: really was in college. I just didn't back down. And
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Speaker 1: I'm the ultimate competitor, and I'm someone who loves to compete.
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Speaker 1: And when I'm out on the floor, like I smile
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Speaker 1: and I laugh and like if you say something to me,
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Speaker 1: I'm coming right back at you, Like I'm someone who
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Speaker 1: has to have the last word. And I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. It's got me into a bull
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Speaker 1: a couple of times, but that's what makes me me,
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Speaker 1: Like I'm sassy, I'm feisty. I'm gonna have my team's
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Speaker 1: back and do whatever it takes to win, and so
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Speaker 1: I'll never apologize for that.
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Speaker 3: I remember I was reading an article on Britney Griner
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Speaker 3: was talking about how she also.
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Speaker 2: Has your back, right.
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Speaker 3: I forget what game it was in, but someone had
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Speaker 3: think like shoved you to the core and it was
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Speaker 3: like all hands on deck, like we've got your back,
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Speaker 3: just like you've got ours.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And that is such a fun environment to
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Speaker 1: be a part of, and a culture to be a
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Speaker 1: part of is when you know your whole team supports
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Speaker 1: you and has you, then you can put your kind
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Speaker 1: of neck on the line when something happens for them too.
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Speaker 1: But when everyone has each other, it's a it's a
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Speaker 1: fun place to.
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Speaker 2: Play in, definitely.
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Speaker 3: And you mentioned you know, and thank you for your
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Speaker 3: vulnerability here talking about being in these difficult moments. Talk
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Speaker 3: me through where your mind goes when these challenges arise.
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Speaker 2: Is it straight to this place.
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Speaker 3: Where you're like all right, like put in the work,
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Speaker 3: I've got this whatever, or do you have some time
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Speaker 3: where you actually feel your feelings as well?
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Speaker 1: Oh Sistar, here we go. We're about to unpack this.
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Speaker 1: So normally I'm a very much like go with the
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Speaker 1: flow type person, like I, no matter what's going on,
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Speaker 1: I want to have fun. I want to make sure
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Speaker 1: people feel good, and that's just who I am. But
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Speaker 1: I just started working with a sports psychologist because honestly,
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Speaker 1: at this point, everyone is good. Everyone are elite athletes.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're in the toughest league in the whole
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Speaker 1: entire world, and so what are you doing to set
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Speaker 1: yourself apart? And for me, that's my mental game. Like
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Speaker 1: if if my mental is on, I don't care who
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Speaker 1: you put in front of me, I'm beating them, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. But that's part of the process
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Speaker 1: of what I'm going through right now is getting to
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Speaker 1: that point. And so a couple of weeks ago, when
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Speaker 1: I was in the rut, I called my sports side guy,
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Speaker 1: poor Zach.
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Speaker 4: You probably think I'm crazy.
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Speaker 1: I've just started working with him, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: I am in a rut and I think I'm going
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Speaker 1: to kill someone, Like I have cried so much. I
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Speaker 1: am just frustrated, like I don't know what is going on,
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Speaker 1: and I don't I'm not a crier, and I normally
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Speaker 1: see the positives but like for a couple of days,
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Speaker 1: like I was just like in my feelings and to me,
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Speaker 1: like looking back, it's funny now, but I'm so glad
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Speaker 1: that I let myself go there, because like I let
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Speaker 1: myself feel like that's part of this journey and a
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Speaker 1: part of being a professional athlete is you have thousands
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Speaker 1: of thousands of people always watching your every single move.
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Speaker 1: Like I can't go anywhere. It's a blessing. I can't
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Speaker 1: go anywhere out here without someone being like, oh are
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Speaker 1: you soaphy from the Phoenix Mercury, and so like you always.
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Speaker 4: Have to dot your eyes, cross your t's, you know
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Speaker 4: what I mean.
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Speaker 1: And so it's a lot of pressure sometimes and so
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Speaker 1: for me just to kind of stay home and feel
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Speaker 1: my feelings right down in my journal and honestly pray
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Speaker 1: and just get away from people was probably the best
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Speaker 1: thing I did. And now I'm back, you know, like
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Speaker 1: I let myself feel, put it aside, and now here
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Speaker 1: you go.
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Speaker 3: You're rewarded with the fact that you were allowing yourself
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Speaker 3: to go through all of those different emotions. Clearly, working
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Speaker 3: with this sports psychologist is certainly having an impact on you.
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Speaker 3: Is this the first time that you've worked with a
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Speaker 3: sports psychologist, and what would you say are some of
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Speaker 3: the best takeaways that you've had from your collaboration so far.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's not.
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Speaker 1: We had a great sports psychologist in college, Scott and Mooreton.
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Speaker 1: She was absolutely phenomenal and she helped me a lot
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Speaker 1: through college. And I think what I've taken away from
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Speaker 1: her and from Zach and Brett Ledbetter so far is
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Speaker 1: like this is this is life. Like You're not always
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Speaker 1: going to be on top of the mountain, You're not
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Speaker 1: always going to be in the valley. So you can't
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Speaker 1: allow yourself to get so high and get so low.
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Speaker 1: And it's okay to feel and the hard times are
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Speaker 1: never gonna last. The good times are never gonna last.
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Speaker 1: And so I think for me, it's just putting my
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Speaker 1: best foot forward every day and if I can try
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Speaker 1: to be better every single day, sometimes that's gonna look different.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna look different every single day. But if I
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Speaker 1: am am trying to be better every single day, then
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Speaker 1: eventually this long journey, I'm going to get who I
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Speaker 1: want to be. And you know that I have a
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Speaker 1: lot of goals. But again I keep saying this, but
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Speaker 1: it's so true, because I think people think that when
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Speaker 1: you're a professional athlete that everything always goes your way
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Speaker 1: and that you don't have hard days, you don't have
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Speaker 1: hard months or hard years or hard seasons, and that's
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Speaker 1: just not true at all. We're still human and this
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Speaker 1: is still our job, and everyone's job is not always fun,
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Speaker 1: and so it's just part of the beauty putting your
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Speaker 1: best foot forward every single day and trying to get
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Speaker 1: one percent better every day.
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Speaker 2: One percent better every day.
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Speaker 3: I love that he's touched on the fact that you
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Speaker 3: have a lot of eyes on you. Those eyes, the
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Speaker 3: number of eyes have been growing every year every season.
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Speaker 2: Was there an adjustment period for that for you? Not really.
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Speaker 1: I think I was, like I've always wanted to be, honestly,
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Speaker 1: like a singer, like a country music singer. Like I
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Speaker 1: always wanted to be on stage singing, you know, like
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Speaker 1: having the crowd out in front of me. So I
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Speaker 1: think I was like born to kind of entertain a
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Speaker 1: little bit. But with that it's hard, man, Like, you
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Speaker 1: can't offend people who don't have an ego, And that's
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Speaker 1: something that I've really held onto because when you have
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Speaker 1: good games and you let all these people praise you
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Speaker 1: and it makes you feel so good. Well, when you
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Speaker 1: have a bad game, you're still going to look at
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Speaker 1: these same people who are going to be, you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of shitting on you a little bit, and there
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Speaker 1: you're gonna let that take the heart too. So I
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Speaker 1: just kind of block it out. I try to be
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Speaker 1: a positive influence with all my social media's. I just
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Speaker 1: try to bring light to people, bring a smile to people,
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Speaker 1: and I try not to take it too seriously. But
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Speaker 1: then I think there are important topics like mental health
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Speaker 1: and kids and teenagers who are in sport that need
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Speaker 1: to hear things that are the truth. And so I
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Speaker 1: think the older I get, I want to kind of
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Speaker 1: take on that mentor roleshift a little bit to help
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Speaker 1: people with their journey. But also like it's so fun,
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Speaker 1: Like I think mental health people are always like, oh,
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Speaker 1: it's so tight and scary to talk about, but I
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Speaker 1: think it's honestly kind of really fun to talk about.
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Speaker 2: Well, then let's talk about it. Let's do it.
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Speaker 3: So what has your experience been when it comes to
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Speaker 3: taking care of your mental health?
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Speaker 2: Would you say that you've always been able?
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Speaker 3: I know I asked you before about upkeeping with this
16:38
Speaker 3: positive mindset. But have you had experiences in your life
16:42
Speaker 3: where getting to that place has been challenging for you?
16:46
Speaker 1: Sometimes in the middle of season when you don't when
16:49
Speaker 1: you're traveling a lot and you can't get that balance,
16:51
Speaker 1: is sometimes when it kind of turns into a grind
16:54
Speaker 1: and you can't appreciate that you could do dribble orange
16:56
Speaker 1: basketball for a living. And so I've always been someone
16:59
Speaker 1: I promise from a very very young age. I think
17:02
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, she had to be a gym rat
17:03
Speaker 1: if she made it to the league, or the way
17:05
Speaker 1: she shoot, she has to be in the gym six
17:06
Speaker 1: hours a day. And that's honestly the absolute opposite thing
17:09
Speaker 1: I ever did. Like I when I went to practice
17:11
Speaker 1: and I got in my extra shots, and when I'm
17:13
Speaker 1: in the gym, I'm in the zone and I'm going
17:15
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten percent.
17:16
Speaker 4: No one is outworking me. I promise you that. But
17:18
Speaker 4: then when.
17:19
Speaker 1: Practice is done, I'm going straight to the pool, I'm
17:22
Speaker 1: going to the lake, I'm going somewhere outdoors. I'm hanging
17:24
Speaker 1: with my friends and I'm not doing anything with basketball.
17:27
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I have found success is
17:30
Speaker 1: because I have that healthy balance of I put in
17:33
Speaker 1: my work and I go super super hard, and I
17:36
Speaker 1: feel good about what I did, and then I get
17:38
Speaker 1: to go lay out at the pool tan and turn
17:41
Speaker 1: my brain off and just enjoy life. And so I
17:44
Speaker 1: do think it is very important to kind of have
17:46
Speaker 1: that balance.
17:47
Speaker 3: So then what does mentorship look like for you right
17:50
Speaker 3: now when it comes to either speaking out about mental
17:54
Speaker 3: health or other topic areas that you are enthusiastic about.
17:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just sharing as much as that. Well,
18:02
Speaker 1: we're traveling a time right now, so it looks a
18:04
Speaker 1: little different than it does in the off season. But
18:07
Speaker 1: right now, I think it's just like kind of showing
18:09
Speaker 1: my day to day, showing what I eat, showing what
18:12
Speaker 1: our practices look like. I'm at the pool all the time,
18:15
Speaker 1: showing people like, hey, you know I'm here, I'm chilling,
18:18
Speaker 1: I'm getting my time in, my balance in and for me,
18:23
Speaker 1: I have a lot of people reach out and I
18:24
Speaker 1: try to get back with them. In the off season,
18:27
Speaker 1: we host a Sophia Hunningham Classic back home in Columbia, Missouri,
18:31
Speaker 1: and we make sure we talk with every team and
18:34
Speaker 1: make them ask us questions like let us help mentor
18:37
Speaker 1: you because it is hard being a teenage girl, especially
18:39
Speaker 1: when you're tall and you have bigger shoulders than the
18:42
Speaker 1: guys and you have bigger muscles than the guys. Like,
18:45
Speaker 1: it's hard, and sometimes it does take a mental kind
18:48
Speaker 1: of beaten on you because you just don't feel girly
18:52
Speaker 1: or you just feel bigger than everyone. But we're like, no, sister,
18:55
Speaker 1: that is your superpower. And one day you were going
18:57
Speaker 1: to love your shoulders. You're gonna love how tall you are,
18:59
Speaker 1: so embracing your shoulders back.
19:01
Speaker 3: Did you go through a period where you had difficulty
19:03
Speaker 3: accepting yourself for what you had to offer?
19:07
Speaker 1: Honestly, this is so funny because I'm six to one
19:10
Speaker 1: and I'm like anywhere from one hundred and sixty five
19:12
Speaker 1: to one hundred and seventy two pounds, Like I do
19:15
Speaker 1: not hide that, Like I am.
19:16
Speaker 2: A big girl a specific range.
19:19
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like well that's like that's the brain TIM
19:21
Speaker 1: always in. And I say one hundred and seventy two
19:23
Speaker 1: because like that could be the highest. But I proudly
19:26
Speaker 1: say that. But I am so blessed because I had
19:29
Speaker 1: an aunt who was six y three, my mom was
19:32
Speaker 1: five eleven, my grandma was five ten. We have really
19:35
Speaker 1: tall athletic women and we're not we're we're not petique,
19:39
Speaker 1: and so they're always like, you know, embrace that, like
19:42
Speaker 1: that is your superpower, Like this is what's going to
19:44
Speaker 1: make you stand out. And I think from a very
19:47
Speaker 1: young and our father figures, I also want we always
19:51
Speaker 1: kind of are really hard on men. But my dad
19:54
Speaker 1: is the best girl dad that I have ever seen.
19:57
Speaker 1: My uncles are the best girl uncles. My grandpa, like
20:00
Speaker 1: everyone really embraced us and like put us on this
20:02
Speaker 1: pedestal to like be beautiful, strong, tall women, And that's
20:06
Speaker 1: going to be your superpower. That's what's going to make
20:08
Speaker 1: you stand out and become who you want to be.
20:10
Speaker 1: And so for me, I've just carried that message on.
20:13
Speaker 1: I tell young girls that all the time, and I
20:15
Speaker 1: also tell young boys that because I think that they
20:18
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of mental health issues that we
20:20
Speaker 1: don't give them credit for or try to help them
20:22
Speaker 1: as much. And so for me, I do want to
20:25
Speaker 1: help the young girls as much as possible, but I
20:27
Speaker 1: do think it is important to help the young boys
20:29
Speaker 1: as well, who are in.
20:30
Speaker 3: Sports, yeah, being able to open up about this stuff
20:33
Speaker 3: that they may not feel necessarily safe to do.
20:36
Speaker 2: So all of the time. You mentioned in being a mentor.
20:40
Speaker 3: That part of that for you is showing balance across
20:43
Speaker 3: your social platform, showing both the practice and the hard efforts,
20:47
Speaker 3: but also kicking back as well. And you talked about
20:50
Speaker 3: what I eat. Talk to me a little bit about
20:53
Speaker 3: how at your height, your stature, your performance level, you
20:58
Speaker 3: are fueling on the right.
21:01
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to start because I'm going to be
21:03
Speaker 1: I'm a very authentic person. Like I'm just gonna throw
21:06
Speaker 1: it out there that I used to eat a big
21:08
Speaker 1: Mac and ten Peace Chicken McNuggets before games in.
21:12
Speaker 2: College and high school.
21:14
Speaker 1: Like I was disgusting, and so I like I just
21:19
Speaker 1: didn't care, like I was finding success. But when you're
21:22
Speaker 1: at a young age and you're at a fun college,
21:25
Speaker 1: like you're not really caring about what you put into
21:27
Speaker 1: your body. And about three years ago at the pro level,
21:31
Speaker 1: like I was like, dang, I'm feeling old, Like my
21:33
Speaker 1: knees are hurting, my back is hurting.
21:35
Speaker 4: I'm like, what is going on?
21:36
Speaker 1: And so I really started to like dial in on
21:40
Speaker 1: my on my diet, and I saw my body transform,
21:44
Speaker 1: especially this past year, Like I got tests to see
21:47
Speaker 1: what I'm sensitive to, allergic to. I've really cleaned up
21:50
Speaker 1: my diet, and I promise you everyone who knows me,
21:54
Speaker 1: they think it is like they don't even know what's
21:56
Speaker 1: me anymore, because I used to eat McDonald's Wendy's talk
21:58
Speaker 1: about all the time and I'm that stuff is so grossed,
22:01
Speaker 1: like why are you eating that? But now I've been
22:04
Speaker 1: working with Quest a lot. They've helped me get the
22:07
Speaker 1: protein I need. Absolutely phenomenal. I've really used them every
22:11
Speaker 1: single day with my coffee, with my snacks, with bars
22:14
Speaker 1: because we're traveling all the.
22:16
Speaker 4: Time, and I'm making sure that I mean.
22:18
Speaker 1: Healthy, I mean clean, because that's what you need to
22:21
Speaker 1: treat your body like elite motors, and that's what I
22:24
Speaker 1: haven't been doing, but I have been doing the past
22:26
Speaker 1: couple of years, and I see a nine day difference
22:29
Speaker 1: in my game as well.
22:30
Speaker 2: For sure.
22:30
Speaker 3: I'm definitely a cookie dough quest curly, what's yours?
22:35
Speaker 4: Okay?
22:35
Speaker 1: So have you tried the new blueberry bar?
22:37
Speaker 2: Oh? I haven't yet.
22:39
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. It is like a blueberry muffin. Like
22:41
Speaker 1: and I'm not someone who really liked all the protein
22:45
Speaker 1: stuff because like it's too chalky to me. But they're
22:48
Speaker 1: new products that they have put out lately. Oh my gosh,
22:51
Speaker 1: like it is like a moist blueberry muffin. I'm not
22:53
Speaker 1: even kidding. So I'm gonna send you something.
22:55
Speaker 4: You gotta try it.
22:55
Speaker 2: Not getting the deal deal.
22:57
Speaker 4: You know.
22:58
Speaker 3: The thing that's funny about you is I think it's
23:00
Speaker 3: on your Twitter page.
23:01
Speaker 2: The caption is God and food are all in need. Yes, ma'am,
23:07
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.
23:09
Speaker 3: So okay, we're making sure that we're getting that protein in.
23:11
Speaker 3: Are you big on hydration now as well?
23:15
Speaker 4: I am?
23:16
Speaker 1: And I set the record at Miszoo for the worst
23:19
Speaker 1: hydration test of all sports of any year. And so again,
23:23
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna just be honest because I used to
23:26
Speaker 1: suck at it. I used to suck with my diet,
23:28
Speaker 1: and now, especially living out here in Arizona, you've got
23:31
Speaker 1: to be on your hydration. And I've had some back issues.
23:36
Speaker 1: I tour both my elbows with some Tommy John if
23:40
Speaker 1: you know what that is with baseball, so I'd have
23:42
Speaker 1: to get both of those done, and hydration plays a
23:44
Speaker 1: huge role in my recovery. So hydration and protein are
23:48
Speaker 1: my two biggest things that I've got to keen on.
23:51
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that we establish for
23:54
Speaker 3: those that may be out of the loop that Sophie
23:56
Speaker 3: is currently twenty six and she feels old.
24:02
Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel younger because I'm treating my body
24:05
Speaker 1: more like a temple. But you know, there's those weekends
24:07
Speaker 1: where it's just, you know, you feel like you're eighteen again.
24:10
Speaker 1: You know, then you wake up and you feel fifty six.
24:13
Speaker 4: So you're trying to find that balance.
24:14
Speaker 2: You know, I'm more often than not feeling fifty six.
24:17
Speaker 2: So I hear you, I hear you. I have a
24:19
Speaker 2: few years on you.
24:20
Speaker 3: So then talk to us a little bit about what
24:23
Speaker 3: excites you right now with the work that you're doing,
24:27
Speaker 3: both in and outside of basketball.
24:30
Speaker 1: All right, we'll start within basketball. For me, I am
24:33
Speaker 1: twenty six. It is my fifth year in the league,
24:36
Speaker 1: and what is so exciting for me? And I'm not
24:39
Speaker 1: a patient person and so it kind of sucks sometimes,
24:42
Speaker 1: but it's exciting right now that people don't reach their
24:45
Speaker 1: best basketball until they're thirty two years old in the league,
24:49
Speaker 1: and so for me, like I'm making big strides. I
24:53
Speaker 1: am staying here in the off season and I'm getting
24:55
Speaker 1: a trainer, I've worked on my diet, I'm in the
24:57
Speaker 1: weight room, my conditioning level. I'm doing some NBA TV
25:03
Speaker 1: for the Suns, and that's actually opened up my perspective
25:06
Speaker 1: of basketball off the court, of watching film almost and
25:09
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of exciting things on the court. Hopefully,
25:13
Speaker 1: you know, I can be a part of the three
25:14
Speaker 1: v three Olympics with the USA Basketball, so I know
25:17
Speaker 1: I'll get a shot at that. And so there's a
25:19
Speaker 1: lot of exciting things basketball wise. But again, it's all
25:23
Speaker 1: nice and shiny, but you still have to put in
25:25
Speaker 1: the work and you have to get there, and so
25:27
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. I'd say, off the court, yeah, yeah,
25:32
Speaker 1: everything looks nice, but it's the journey of getting there
25:35
Speaker 1: and all the ups and downs, and but I'm looking
25:37
Speaker 1: forward to it. And then off the court, I have
25:41
Speaker 1: two AU teams. They're called Team Sophie Cunningham, and that
25:45
Speaker 1: is like one of my biggest things that I love
25:47
Speaker 1: is because I get to talk to these girls, I
25:49
Speaker 1: get to help mentor you get to go to all
25:52
Speaker 1: these tournaments around the country. Well let me say, all
25:55
Speaker 1: these guys get to go to all these country or
25:57
Speaker 1: all these tournaments around the country, and they get all
25:59
Speaker 1: these they get like shoes they get bags, they get
26:03
Speaker 1: all this gear and all that type of stuff, and
26:05
Speaker 1: we just didn't like growing up. I know, like that
26:08
Speaker 1: was ten years ago for me, but we just didn't
26:09
Speaker 1: get that stuff. And so I'm an Adidas athlete, I'm
26:13
Speaker 1: also a Quest athlete, and now I get to kind
26:16
Speaker 1: of collab with these really two big companies and give
26:19
Speaker 1: it back to these.
26:20
Speaker 4: Girls who deserve it, and so I get really excited
26:23
Speaker 4: about that.
26:25
Speaker 1: And then I have the Sophie Cunningham Classic, which is
26:27
Speaker 1: a all girls tournament pretty much, and we get to
26:31
Speaker 1: throw a lot of cool people are there. ESPN is
26:35
Speaker 1: going to be involved. We get to talk to these teams,
26:38
Speaker 1: we get to help mentor these girls, and it's a
26:40
Speaker 1: very interactive, hands on experience for these young athletes. So
26:44
Speaker 1: it's super exciting, super fun, and I'm looking forward to
26:47
Speaker 1: it again this year.
26:48
Speaker 3: He touched on you know, women playing their best basketball
26:52
Speaker 3: at age thirty two and older. We've already mentioned Diana
26:55
Speaker 3: Trassi and Britney Griner. What is it like for you
26:58
Speaker 3: to play on a team with these two incredible humans?
27:05
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, there's just like not a lot of words
27:07
Speaker 1: to put into it, because they are Diane is.
27:09
Speaker 4: The goat of the WNBA of.
27:11
Speaker 1: Women's basketball in general, and so just to kind of
27:14
Speaker 1: get a little piece of her mind and her mentorship
27:17
Speaker 1: has been unbelievable. The way she thinks, like her and
27:20
Speaker 1: Kobe are on the same level. And I always try
27:22
Speaker 1: to tell people that because everyone knows Kobe, but she
27:25
Speaker 1: is the woman Kobe, and like they are crazy, but
27:29
Speaker 1: they are so freaking smart at the same time. And
27:31
Speaker 1: then you have VEG who's the best post player in
27:33
Speaker 1: the whole world, and you know, last year was super
27:36
Speaker 1: tough for her family, for her, for us, and just
27:39
Speaker 1: to kind of have her back and see her smile
27:41
Speaker 1: and being able to play with one of the posts
27:45
Speaker 1: the best post players that ever go through women's basketball
27:48
Speaker 1: has also been super fun. But my relationships with both
27:51
Speaker 1: of them are so so different. BVG is more chill,
27:54
Speaker 1: She's more like me. She has a balance of when
27:56
Speaker 1: she's done with practice, she's done, and then d you know,
28:00
Speaker 1: he's always thinking. She's always thinking how we can get better,
28:02
Speaker 1: what she can do to grow her game, and so
28:04
Speaker 1: just kind of having the balance of both of them
28:06
Speaker 1: have been fantastic.
28:07
Speaker 3: If you're comfortable talking about it, I'd be so interested
28:10
Speaker 3: to know from the inside looking out, like how just
28:14
Speaker 3: all of I don't need to go into BG's story.
28:17
Speaker 2: I think everyone's familiar with it now.
28:19
Speaker 3: But now that you're in season, how that has impacted
28:21
Speaker 3: your team as you're kind of moving forward here.
28:24
Speaker 1: It is actually kind of hilarious because we've had her
28:28
Speaker 1: back for a while, Like we see her every single day,
28:31
Speaker 1: but every time we play a new team, So we
28:33
Speaker 1: have eleven teams that we go to their home gym,
28:36
Speaker 1: and every single time it's a new homecoming for VG
28:39
Speaker 1: and so it's like hilarious because it's like eleven times
28:42
Speaker 1: it's over and over, which it is so well deserved,
28:44
Speaker 1: Like the w fans fully deserved. They got behind her,
28:47
Speaker 1: they got behind us, but it's just like funny to
28:50
Speaker 1: us because we're like, oh, we haven't been here, Here
28:52
Speaker 1: we go again, B And so she gets through standing ovation,
28:55
Speaker 1: she gets her way, her moment.
28:57
Speaker 4: Of fame, and it's just hilarious.
28:59
Speaker 1: But to have her back and just to see the
29:02
Speaker 1: support that not only the w gave us, but the
29:05
Speaker 1: NBA men and women's soccer leagues, other sports and then
29:09
Speaker 1: people who just aren't in sports has been absolutely unbelievable.
29:13
Speaker 1: And I know that people have their different views about it,
29:16
Speaker 1: and I get both sides of it, but I think
29:19
Speaker 1: a lot of people only know ten percent of the
29:21
Speaker 1: story and what really happened. And I promise you that
29:24
Speaker 1: if they had a loved one over there in that situation,
29:26
Speaker 1: that they would want them home regardless too. And so
29:28
Speaker 1: I think it is a great way to just show
29:31
Speaker 1: grace and love and to kind of hold your loved
29:34
Speaker 1: ones closed because there's a lot of stuff that people
29:36
Speaker 1: just don't know.
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Speaker 3: Now you talked about the AU team, Sophie Cumming hand,
32:17
Speaker 3: the Sophie Cunningham classic. Can I just like stop you
32:20
Speaker 3: for a second when you say stuff like that, like
32:22
Speaker 3: does it shake you?
32:23
Speaker 2: Are you like, Holy, isn't it insane?
32:26
Speaker 4: No?
32:27
Speaker 1: Because it is so like if people actually knew me,
32:30
Speaker 1: and I promise you my best friends are like, if
32:33
Speaker 1: these kids just knew you, or like these fans just
32:36
Speaker 1: knew you, they would think you were the biggest work.
32:37
Speaker 1: And I'm like I know, and I'm like I don't
32:39
Speaker 1: try to hide it, like I don't know. And that's
32:42
Speaker 1: like one of the first things I tell people, like
32:43
Speaker 1: when they are like starstruck and I that's weird enough,
32:47
Speaker 1: that's weird to say but when they are, I'm just like,
32:50
Speaker 1: I promise you I'm not that cool, Like I swear,
32:52
Speaker 1: you're probably way cooler than me. And so I just
32:54
Speaker 1: always just try to greet people with hugs and make
32:56
Speaker 1: them feel comfortable because I didn't have a WNBA player who.
33:00
Speaker 4: Was given back to us when we were younger.
33:02
Speaker 1: Like, I just think it's so cool being from the
33:04
Speaker 1: Midwest and being able to like go back and give
33:07
Speaker 1: back and show kids that even if it's not basketball,
33:09
Speaker 1: to like dream big whatever is like setting your soul
33:12
Speaker 1: on fire, go for it.
33:13
Speaker 4: And that's my biggest thing for him.
33:15
Speaker 3: Who did you look up to when you were growing up?
33:18
Speaker 3: And who would you say? Maybe some of your biggest
33:21
Speaker 3: mentors are now.
33:23
Speaker 4: Okay, that is a great question.
33:25
Speaker 1: I just have always been a super competitive kid, and
33:28
Speaker 1: so like when people are like who did you look
33:30
Speaker 1: up to? I was just so dang stubborn. I was like,
33:33
Speaker 1: no one, because like I'm going to be better than them?
33:35
Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I like that? Why am I
33:38
Speaker 1: like that? Like be nicer, be better? But if I
33:41
Speaker 1: had to pick one, I'd pick me a ham Like
33:44
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be a soccer player.
33:46
Speaker 1: My sister had the opportunity to play dual sport basketball
33:50
Speaker 1: and college basketball and soccer in college, and I actually
33:53
Speaker 1: did too, And I always wish that we would have
33:55
Speaker 1: done it, Like I always think that would have been
33:56
Speaker 1: so kind of badass with us, but it's too much.
33:59
Speaker 1: So I think Mayaham was probably a mentor because she
34:02
Speaker 1: was just a badass woman and she put USA women's
34:07
Speaker 1: soccer on the map, like she was just like the it.
34:09
Speaker 1: You know. Now, I think mentorship, I don't have one
34:12
Speaker 1: specific person, but I have a lot of people from
34:17
Speaker 1: from different areas, so, like I don't know if that
34:20
Speaker 1: made sense. So I have like people for sport, I
34:22
Speaker 1: have people for life. I have people for my finances,
34:25
Speaker 1: for my mental health, for my diet, for doing outdoorsy stuff,
34:28
Speaker 1: for doing country stuff or doing city stuff. Like I
34:31
Speaker 1: just like the more that I get older, I just
34:33
Speaker 1: think it is so important to not just choose one thing,
34:39
Speaker 1: like kind of get your hand in everything that you're
34:41
Speaker 1: passionate about, like try to learn as much as possible.
34:44
Speaker 1: And I think having a growth mindset in every little
34:47
Speaker 1: thing just like helps you be a well rounded human.
34:50
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's the answer you're looking for, but.
34:53
Speaker 3: That's kind of I mean what I'm what I'm hearing
34:55
Speaker 3: you say in this is you went from this place
34:57
Speaker 3: where you were like I'm not going to look up
34:58
Speaker 3: to anyone, to now being someone who's so open to
35:04
Speaker 3: looking up to others and having mentors and asking for advice.
35:08
Speaker 3: So would you say or can you articulate maybe like
35:11
Speaker 3: a point where that change for you?
35:14
Speaker 2: Yeah?
35:14
Speaker 1: I think in college I was just like super competitive
35:17
Speaker 1: and like I just wanted to I feel like I
35:20
Speaker 1: just had so much to prove, but like for who
35:23
Speaker 1: for what?
35:23
Speaker 4: Right?
35:24
Speaker 1: Like I I oh, no one anything like my I
35:28
Speaker 1: think my mindset shifted when I stopped competing and being
35:32
Speaker 1: competitive and compare myself to others, And now I just
35:36
Speaker 1: like compare myself to myself, like I want to outdo me,
35:39
Speaker 1: like I'm my biggest competition, Like I don't care who
35:41
Speaker 1: you put in front of me. I know everything about myself.
35:44
Speaker 1: I know my good and I know my bad, and
35:46
Speaker 1: I'm my biggest competition. And so I think that's when
35:49
Speaker 1: my mind shifted, is because I stopped comparing myself to others.
35:52
Speaker 1: And I don't even know how to explain it, like
35:54
Speaker 1: I'm my biggest competition and so I think the older
35:58
Speaker 1: that I'm getting, I want to learn from successful people,
36:02
Speaker 1: Like I want to learn what they did to get
36:03
Speaker 1: where they're at. I want to find true happiness, true piece,
36:07
Speaker 1: true joy, Like I want to genuinely give back and
36:09
Speaker 1: help people be genuinely happy and successful. And I think
36:13
Speaker 1: that when you're just stuck in your own way, you're
36:16
Speaker 1: never going to get there. And so that's why I
36:18
Speaker 1: try to like learn and listen to as many people
36:20
Speaker 1: as possible who are successful or where I want to
36:23
Speaker 1: be one day to see what they did and kind
36:25
Speaker 1: of take multiple pieces from different people and kind of
36:29
Speaker 1: take what I want and make it myself.
36:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I really resonate with that. So for
36:34
Speaker 3: someone who may be listening to this that really struggles
36:37
Speaker 3: with falling into the comparison trap, as we love to
36:40
Speaker 3: call it, do you have any advice for them?
36:43
Speaker 4: Man?
36:44
Speaker 1: I have been around the most famous people you can know,
36:48
Speaker 1: people who have a lot of money, people who might
36:51
Speaker 1: seem to have it all, and they are some of
36:53
Speaker 1: the most unhappiest humans that you will ever meet. And
36:57
Speaker 1: it's sad because I had a teammate who is a
37:01
Speaker 1: very well known teammate and me as a rookie making
37:04
Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars. She came up to me and she goes,
37:07
Speaker 1: how are you so happy and full of life? Like
37:09
Speaker 1: what I'm like, Give me your millions of dollars and
37:12
Speaker 1: I'll be happy.
37:13
Speaker 4: Like let's switch lives for a second.
37:15
Speaker 1: And I just think that there are so many things
37:19
Speaker 1: you can't put your your heart into two earthly things.
37:22
Speaker 1: I think for me, I rely a lot on my faith,
37:24
Speaker 1: and that's where my true joy, in my my identity
37:28
Speaker 1: truly comes from is God. And I think that when
37:30
Speaker 1: you try to put your identity into basketball, into money,
37:34
Speaker 1: into fame, into being prettier or nicer or skinnier than
37:38
Speaker 1: all these other girls or even guys, you're always gonna
37:42
Speaker 1: feel empty. It's like chasing the wind. And so for me,
37:45
Speaker 1: I put my identity in Christ, and I think that's
37:47
Speaker 1: what really keeps me grounded and what makes me be
37:51
Speaker 1: able to like truly be my authentic Haffy self.
37:55
Speaker 2: It's interesting for me that I'm going to ask you
37:57
Speaker 2: this question.
37:57
Speaker 3: Be you, guys, I don't have, like us strong relationship
38:01
Speaker 3: necessarily a strong religious affiliation.
38:03
Speaker 2: Although I was raised Jewish.
38:05
Speaker 3: So with being on the road with kind of being
38:08
Speaker 3: all over the place all the time, how do you
38:10
Speaker 3: anchor yourself in that religion and what do you do
38:12
Speaker 3: to kind of keep up with your faith?
38:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's a great point because a
38:17
Speaker 1: lot of people don't have religion. But I think for me,
38:20
Speaker 1: it's like love conquers all. And I think that when
38:23
Speaker 1: you can like truly love, and when you say love,
38:26
Speaker 1: everyone's always like, oh like love other people, No, love yourself,
38:29
Speaker 1: like love your flaws, love what makes you unique and
38:31
Speaker 1: you different because other people will be looking at you
38:34
Speaker 1: and wish they had that. And so I think for me,
38:37
Speaker 1: you do travel all over the place, and I've been
38:40
Speaker 1: here for two days and I'm about to leave for
38:42
Speaker 1: six more days, right, so, like in in season is
38:45
Speaker 1: just crazy. But for me, I just try to get
38:48
Speaker 1: a routine. I take my Bible with me everywhere. Sometimes
38:51
Speaker 1: I read it, sometimes I don't. But I think the
38:53
Speaker 1: biggest thing for me is be a light, like shine
38:56
Speaker 1: your light wherever you are and just try to be
38:58
Speaker 1: a positive influence because I do think love and you
39:02
Speaker 1: can just love people where they're at and meet them
39:04
Speaker 1: where they're at, then that kind of show that helps
39:07
Speaker 1: them love themselves as well. And so it's hard, especially
39:10
Speaker 1: when when you are on this crazy schedule like we are.
39:14
Speaker 1: It is hard to kind of have a routine and
39:16
Speaker 1: find a community of people that might have the same
39:18
Speaker 1: beliefs as you or have the same morals as you.
39:21
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I think when you
39:23
Speaker 1: can just love people, that's the biggest thing.
39:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, when you said, like when you can
39:28
Speaker 3: get to a place where you just meet yourself with
39:29
Speaker 3: where you're at, it rings to me or it makes
39:32
Speaker 3: me think about, you know, coming of age right and
39:35
Speaker 3: getting to this point where it's so easy during your
39:38
Speaker 3: teenage years too, Like we were talking about play that
39:40
Speaker 3: comparison game and judge yourself so harshly. Do you remember
39:45
Speaker 3: when you personally turn that corner and really just embraced
39:49
Speaker 3: what it was that you had to offer instead of
39:51
Speaker 3: judging yourself.
39:53
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm laughing because I'm such a late blimmer,
39:57
Speaker 1: Like I promise you, I'm still like trying to g
40:00
Speaker 1: bow up, you know what the girls says, like blow
40:02
Speaker 1: up still because oh my god, I'm funny sack, because
40:05
Speaker 1: I'm still like trying to like become the you know,
40:09
Speaker 1: the best version of yourself.
40:10
Speaker 4: Whatever.
40:12
Speaker 1: But I think in high school, we just had a
40:14
Speaker 1: good group of boys and girls that there wasn't a
40:18
Speaker 1: lot of comparison. But you do find yourself in those
40:21
Speaker 1: times of as an athlete and in high school when
40:25
Speaker 1: like you're going through the weird puberty age, like you
40:28
Speaker 1: you just look weird, right, Like everyone goes through it
40:31
Speaker 1: and it's just like part of life. But I did
40:33
Speaker 1: find myself sometimes like, man, like I wish I was skinnier,
40:37
Speaker 1: Like why isn't my hair longer, thicker? Like why why
40:40
Speaker 1: is her skin way clearer than mine?
40:42
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
40:43
Speaker 1: Like, you do find yourself going through those things, and
40:46
Speaker 1: it's like, wait a second, if I was that petite
40:48
Speaker 1: or if I was that skinny, I'd be get my
40:51
Speaker 1: butt kicked on the basketball court, like I would not
40:53
Speaker 1: be who I was created to be. And so I
40:56
Speaker 1: think for me, it's just finding the strength within yourself
40:59
Speaker 1: and really like coming to terms and like enjoying who
41:02
Speaker 1: you are and like whatever makes you weird or different
41:05
Speaker 1: from everyone else, like that's what's cool, That's what attracts
41:08
Speaker 1: people to you. And so I think just like embracing
41:11
Speaker 1: that and being confident and finding a really small, good
41:14
Speaker 1: group of people to like, love you and support you
41:16
Speaker 1: regardless is huge.
41:19
Speaker 4: You're too huge.
41:21
Speaker 3: Aside from the fact that you say you're still in
41:24
Speaker 3: your glow up era, although I would say like you
41:27
Speaker 3: are glowing, what else makes you unique? Instellar and different
41:32
Speaker 3: from everybody else?
41:34
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I don't know if I would use all
41:37
Speaker 1: those terms, but I just don't try to fit in anymore.
41:41
Speaker 1: And I think that's so important for I think young
41:45
Speaker 1: guys to hear, because I think young athletes in general,
41:48
Speaker 1: male or female, you miss out on a lot of
41:51
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. You miss out on prom you
41:54
Speaker 1: missed out on school dances. You don't maybe get to
41:57
Speaker 1: go hang out or go to the party or whatever
42:01
Speaker 1: you want to call it with all your people because
42:03
Speaker 1: you have games or I remember au ball, I wasn't
42:06
Speaker 1: home all summer. I was home for three days my
42:09
Speaker 1: junior year of summer. So you missed out on a bunch.
42:13
Speaker 1: But with great things comes with great sacrifice. And I
42:16
Speaker 1: think that that's something that I just had to like
42:18
Speaker 1: hang my hat on. Is like I'm putting in the
42:20
Speaker 1: work for something greater and I might not see the
42:22
Speaker 1: benefits of it now, but in six years when I'm
42:25
Speaker 1: the WNBA and I'm on ESPN and I get to
42:28
Speaker 1: do these cool things, I'll know that it's worth it.
42:30
Speaker 1: And so for me, sometimes you have to think big
42:34
Speaker 1: picture and then sometimes you have to think small picture.
42:36
Speaker 4: And so.
42:38
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just try not to fit anymore.
42:40
Speaker 1: I think when I laugh at on the court, I
42:43
Speaker 1: smile a lot on the court. I'm feisty on the court,
42:45
Speaker 1: and sometimes that gets me in trouble. But that's what
42:48
Speaker 1: makes me me, and that's why the fans gather around me.
42:51
Speaker 1: That's why I love the fans, because they're all a
42:53
Speaker 1: lot more like than the things.
42:54
Speaker 3: So what would you say one of the most difficult
42:57
Speaker 3: sacrifices you've had to make in your come up in
43:01
Speaker 3: sport has been.
43:04
Speaker 1: A thousand thousand percent being away from my family and friends.
43:08
Speaker 4: Like I get to.
43:10
Speaker 1: Do really cool things, you know, you get to play
43:13
Speaker 1: in all these cool stadiums, you get to go to
43:15
Speaker 1: these cool cities, you get invited to full events. Yet
43:19
Speaker 1: you don't get to ever have your best friends coming
43:22
Speaker 1: along with you. You don't get to have your parents come
43:24
Speaker 1: along with you. And I'm someone who I got really
43:27
Speaker 1: blessed with a great family and a really good group
43:29
Speaker 1: of friends. And I missed them like crazy, and so
43:32
Speaker 1: if I could move all them out here, it would
43:34
Speaker 1: be a million times better because I just know that
43:36
Speaker 1: people would out here in Phoenix would fall in love
43:39
Speaker 1: with my family friends, just kind of how they fell
43:40
Speaker 1: in love with me. But I think just being away
43:43
Speaker 1: from home and missing out on weddings, missing out on
43:47
Speaker 1: your close friends having kids, missing out on family dinners,
43:51
Speaker 1: friends hanging out, going to the lake like it is
43:54
Speaker 1: the small things and big things that it kind of sucks.
43:58
Speaker 1: But then again, you know you can't live this lifestyle forever,
44:01
Speaker 1: so you have to embrace it and put your best
44:03
Speaker 1: foot forward.
44:03
Speaker 3: And put your best foot forward. How often would you
44:05
Speaker 3: say that you get back to where you grew up.
44:09
Speaker 1: As much as possible. And so if I have a
44:11
Speaker 1: couple of days off, I'm going back home. And sometimes
44:14
Speaker 1: I wish I would go to Cabo and just hang out,
44:16
Speaker 1: But I know that going back home and see my
44:19
Speaker 1: friends and family is going to fill my cup up
44:21
Speaker 1: a lot more than you know, probably tequila on the beach.
44:26
Speaker 3: Heard heard, Yeah, I mean, speaking of filling up your cup.
44:30
Speaker 2: What else do you do to take care of Sophie?
44:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I make sure I know I really do live
44:39
Speaker 1: a very kind of simple life, like to fill my
44:42
Speaker 1: cup up and to make sure I'm in a good
44:43
Speaker 1: mental zone. I need to get to the pool, I
44:45
Speaker 1: need to get a tan, I need to maybe go
44:48
Speaker 1: to the hair slan make sure my hair is a
44:49
Speaker 1: little blonder, because if you look good, you play good.
44:52
Speaker 1: And I do need to get my nails done. Already
44:54
Speaker 1: showed you that. But outside of that, I think one
44:58
Speaker 1: of the other things that really makes me feel good
45:02
Speaker 1: is helping out with the Ronald McDonald House, helping out
45:06
Speaker 1: with the Boys and Girls Club, like giving back the
45:09
Speaker 1: Children's Hospital is a huge, big thing that I love
45:12
Speaker 1: to do. And it's just like give to others that
45:15
Speaker 1: maybe things that they won't be able to do when
45:17
Speaker 1: they're older because of difficulties that they had to go
45:20
Speaker 1: through that I never got to go through or had
45:22
Speaker 1: to go through, I should say. And so I think
45:24
Speaker 1: giving back is really what helps my heart grow fonder
45:29
Speaker 1: and helps me really enjoy where I'm at, because sometimes
45:32
Speaker 1: it is easy to complain. It's easy to kind of
45:34
Speaker 1: get caught up in the grind. It's easy to you know,
45:38
Speaker 1: kind of like sometimes because you do get you do
45:41
Speaker 1: miss out on so much especially during the summertime and
45:43
Speaker 1: you get a lot of fomo. It's like, what can
45:45
Speaker 1: I do to help someone else feel good? And then
45:48
Speaker 1: that's kind of what helps me feel good.
45:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially in a sport or so often, like
45:52
Speaker 3: y'all are traveling all over the place and even in
45:54
Speaker 3: the off season going overseas, so you know, it's something
45:58
Speaker 3: that so many athletes, regardless of order, are navigating all
46:01
Speaker 3: the time.
46:03
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think that's something a lot of people
46:05
Speaker 1: don't know, is WNBA players. We're here from you know,
46:10
Speaker 1: early May until mid October, and then you're shipped off overseas.
46:14
Speaker 1: You're in Turkey, used to be Russia, anywhere in Europe
46:18
Speaker 1: and Australia and you're there for solid seven months. And
46:21
Speaker 1: so that's where we make our money. That's where it's crazy,
46:25
Speaker 1: because the WNBA is like the most elite level basketball,
46:27
Speaker 1: but you get paid the worst and so that's why
46:29
Speaker 1: you have to go overseas in order to know kind
46:32
Speaker 1: of to make your money.
46:33
Speaker 2: How has that experience been for you traveling overseas?
46:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am the wrong person to ask those wildvan
46:42
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I think my rookie year,
46:45
Speaker 1: I went over to Australia, absolutely fantastic, loved it, loved
46:49
Speaker 1: the culture. My sister actually came with me. We had
46:52
Speaker 1: like the time of our lives. And then COVID happened,
46:57
Speaker 1: and then my third year I went over to France
47:00
Speaker 1: how to love the girls, how a good experience got injured,
47:04
Speaker 1: And once you get injured over there, they don't want
47:07
Speaker 1: anything to do with yet. And so my good experience
47:09
Speaker 1: turned bad really quick. And then after that I was
47:13
Speaker 1: like done, Like I just it just wasn't my thing.
47:17
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just feel like I wanted to train.
47:19
Speaker 1: I wanted to be home. My grandparents are getting older,
47:22
Speaker 1: you know, and they have a huge family farm, and
47:24
Speaker 1: so I wanted to help out there as much as possible.
47:27
Speaker 1: And then last year, when I just kind of hurt
47:30
Speaker 1: my other elbow, I just decided to stay out here
47:32
Speaker 1: in Arizona, and I kind of got into broadcasting and
47:35
Speaker 1: I absolutely loved it, and so I'm going to probably
47:37
Speaker 1: be doing that and training the off season from here
47:40
Speaker 1: on out.
47:41
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.
47:42
Speaker 3: Just for context, can you give us some examples of
47:45
Speaker 3: things that you are doing on the farm.
47:49
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, girl, I should have brought you out
47:52
Speaker 1: there and we could have done it firsthand. But okay,
47:56
Speaker 1: so it depends on the season. So we have planting
48:01
Speaker 1: season and harvesting season and so planting season like you're
48:04
Speaker 1: out in the field until like six am, excuse me,
48:08
Speaker 1: six am until you know, probably around seven whenever it
48:11
Speaker 1: gets dark.
48:12
Speaker 4: So not bad.
48:13
Speaker 1: But my first year like legit farming farming was during COVID,
48:18
Speaker 1: and like we just to go out there just like
48:20
Speaker 1: for you know, gigs and whatnot and not like really
48:23
Speaker 1: doing anything. Like, oh, we were on the farm helping
48:25
Speaker 1: our pawpall, but during COVID we were actually like farming
48:28
Speaker 1: and we had to get up at like five am
48:30
Speaker 1: and to not go to sleep until one am. And
48:33
Speaker 1: my grandpa is like seventy nine years old doing this,
48:36
Speaker 1: you know, since he was six years old, and I'm like,
48:38
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's way stronger than me, just like
48:41
Speaker 1: he just has a I don't know. Farmers are just
48:43
Speaker 1: smart because they have to know a little bit about
48:46
Speaker 1: the economy, the weather, plant like all that type of stuff.
48:49
Speaker 1: And I just I just didn't realize how hard it was.
48:52
Speaker 1: And I will never be a farmer again.
48:56
Speaker 3: Just a little insight into what farming looks like for
48:59
Speaker 3: the wmbas so Vahr. Well, right now, I know we
49:05
Speaker 3: talked a little bit about social media and Instagram before.
49:08
Speaker 3: You've got something like one hundred and eighteen thousand followers
49:12
Speaker 3: on Instagram. When they come to your page, they see
49:15
Speaker 3: a WNBA player, they see an Adidas athlete. What you
49:20
Speaker 3: look in the mirror? What is it that you see
49:22
Speaker 3: looking back at you?
49:25
Speaker 4: I love I love that question.
49:27
Speaker 1: When I look at myself in the mirror, I'm proud
49:30
Speaker 1: of everything I've been through, but I'm not satisfied like
49:33
Speaker 1: I want to. I just have so many goals that
49:35
Speaker 1: I haven't accomplished. But I'm also just so grateful and
49:38
Speaker 1: so happy with where I'm at. And then, like I said,
49:41
Speaker 1: it's not always easy, and there's hard days. There's things
49:44
Speaker 1: that just don't go my way. I don't feel like
49:46
Speaker 1: it's fair. But at the end of the day, I'm
49:48
Speaker 1: very blessed, I'm very grateful, and I'm just here to
49:51
Speaker 1: give back. And so I hope when people come to
49:53
Speaker 1: my page they feel a sense of happiness, they feel
49:55
Speaker 1: like they belong there.
49:56
Speaker 4: When I look in the mirror.
49:58
Speaker 1: I see a lot of growth, see where I want
50:00
Speaker 1: to be but I'm content but not satisfied. And so
50:04
Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, I'm a hot mess. I see
50:06
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff.
50:08
Speaker 2: Content but not satisfied.
50:09
Speaker 3: You know, that's the second time in our conversation today
50:12
Speaker 3: that you said I have a lot of goals.
50:15
Speaker 2: Do you care to elaborate.
50:20
Speaker 4: I'll give you one.
50:21
Speaker 2: I don't have to give away all the secrets. It's cool.
50:23
Speaker 1: No, No, There's just been something in my gut ever
50:26
Speaker 1: since I was a young girl that I want to
50:28
Speaker 1: be an Olympian, Like I just want to be an Olympian,
50:31
Speaker 1: and so that is a main goal of mine. I
50:33
Speaker 1: don't care if it's three v three. I don't care
50:35
Speaker 1: if it's five on five, like, I don't care what
50:38
Speaker 1: it is. But I want a gold medal. And so
50:40
Speaker 1: that is a goal, and you best believe I'm going
50:43
Speaker 1: to be working my tail off until I get it.
50:45
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.
50:47
Speaker 3: You know, it's one of those things that you put
50:49
Speaker 3: it into the universe, and the universe conspires to work
50:53
Speaker 3: with you to get you to where you want to be.
50:54
Speaker 3: So I doubt that's the first time you've said that
50:57
Speaker 3: out loud. But now all of these people that are listening,
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Speaker 3: are going to help hold you accountable, and they're going
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Speaker 3: to want it for you as well.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but if I don't, then you guys can just
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Speaker 1: meet me at the pool and we can hang out
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Speaker 1: and we can watch it.
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Speaker 3: So we're going to Arizona. Yeah, perfect. I already asked you,
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Speaker 3: like what excites you right now? But what else are
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Speaker 3: you looking forward to in the immediate future besides working
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Speaker 3: your tail off to get maybe to Paris or who knows,
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Speaker 3: La twenty twenty eight.
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Speaker 1: Man, I think getting my feet a little bit more
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Speaker 1: wet in the broadcasting industry. I think I have a
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Speaker 1: great opportunity here with the Suns. They have a stacked
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Speaker 1: roster this year, and I think it's going to be
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Speaker 1: a lot of fun, a lot of hype around the
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Speaker 1: valley out here in Arizona. I just think, get my
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Speaker 1: feet wet in industries that I think I'll want to
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Speaker 1: do when I'm done playing basketball, which is another you know,
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Speaker 1: fifty years right, Like, I don't want to retire anytime soon,
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Speaker 1: but I do think the broadcasting area is kind of
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Speaker 1: where I want to go, and so just trying to
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Speaker 1: get better at that. It's a lot harder than it looks.
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Speaker 1: And to be honest, I tried starting a podcast and
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Speaker 1: that's hard too, Like being flowy and and your questions
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Speaker 1: on par and doing all that, Like you do a
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Speaker 1: fantastic job, and it's a lot harder than people think.
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Speaker 2: It is, so so sweet.
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Speaker 4: Steps to you, Sis, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 3: You and I can jam about podcasting whatever you want.
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Speaker 3: We'll have to have a one on one. I'm here
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Speaker 3: to help, I'm here to mentor you.
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Speaker 2: Sophie, there a GOALSI.
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Speaker 3: All right, girl, Well, right now you have an opportunity
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Speaker 3: to offer yourself a piece of advice. Let's go back.
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Speaker 3: You talked about that rut that you were in not
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Speaker 3: all that long ago, you knowing what you know. Now
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Speaker 3: you have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of advice.
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Speaker 3: Going through a period where you're just not satisfied with
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Speaker 3: the work that you're putting out. What do you tell
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Speaker 3: yourself during that hurdle moment?
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Speaker 1: For me, I'm just stubborn and I don't have patience,
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Speaker 1: and that's something that I know I need to work on,
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Speaker 1: Like everyone knows that. But for me, even though I'm
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Speaker 1: frustrated and annoyed, my piece of advice is still put
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Speaker 1: in the work, even if the work is ugly, even
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Speaker 1: if you know you're in the gym and you're not
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Speaker 1: making your shots, at least you're in there at least
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Speaker 1: like putting in the work. And I do feel like
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Speaker 1: that if you are the hardest worker and you genuinely
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Speaker 1: want to get better and put in that work. It's
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Speaker 1: not always fun, but you have to then the ball
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Speaker 1: won't lie and you're not gonna be stuck in a
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Speaker 1: rep forever. And I think that's the biggest advice that
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Speaker 1: they gave me.
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Speaker 4: At the time.
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Speaker 1: They were like, my mentors were like laughing at me
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Speaker 1: because I knew how frustrated and they're like, girl, this
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Speaker 1: happens to everyone. Like I'm like, I'm gonna like stay
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Speaker 1: like this for like ever because I'm just drama, you know.
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Speaker 1: And they're like, no, like this happens to everyone. Just
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Speaker 1: keep putting in the work, like you're fine. It's not
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Speaker 1: gonna last forever. And I think that's the biggest piece
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Speaker 1: of advice is don't get too high.
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Speaker 3: Don't get too high, don't get too low. Sophie Cunningha'm
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Speaker 3: so happy that we were able to make this happen.
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Speaker 3: A huge sponsor a huge thank you to your sponsor
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Speaker 3: at Quest for connecting us. For those of the hurdlers,
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Speaker 3: that's what I call my audience that don't follow along
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Speaker 3: with you just yet.
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Speaker 2: How do they keep up with you? How do they
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Speaker 2: follow along with you? Give us your details?
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Well, you can go to my end Instagram,
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Speaker 1: you can go to my TikTok. I promise you that
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Speaker 1: people might think I'm feisty, but we have a good time.
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Speaker 1: On the socials. We are very authentic. We want to help,
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Speaker 1: we want to become friends over there. And so it's
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Speaker 1: Sophie Underscore, Seahan.
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Speaker 3: I'm over at Emila Badi and at Hurdle Podcast another
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Speaker 3: Hurdle Conquered.
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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time,