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On Creativity with Eliseo Equihua · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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  Speaker 1: that we're in Times Square again? Like officially have we
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  Speaker 1: know if we've talked about how officially talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we officially talked about it. But we
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  Speaker 1: when you saw the photo that someone shout out Emily
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  Speaker 1: what did you think when you saw that photo that
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  Speaker 1: billboard have I not been ranting and raving I want
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  Speaker 1: to build board? Have I has been saying this for years? Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: she really has. She's been saying for years. So when
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  Speaker 1: do we get a build? Where's our billboard? Do we
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  Speaker 1: get a billboard? Where's our billboard? We got it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: the first of many first. This is just the beginning
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  Speaker 1: and not bad. So our first billboard is a big
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  Speaker 1: gest times square billboard for Spotify on Broadway across from
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  Speaker 1: the Ernstein Young Building. Not too shabby. Up for nine
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  Speaker 1: separate days throughout Hispanic Heritage months. So not just once,
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  Speaker 1: not just twice, not just four times, nine separate days.
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  Speaker 1: We just needed to be understood. We're like fifty ft
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  Speaker 1: we almost always style ourselves and it came out really beautiful. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we occasionally will work with with like Brenda
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  Speaker 1: with styling on other projects and things. Um, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like for that shoot, it was interesting because you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you guys have done photo shoots, sometimes it's like
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  Speaker 1: come with a bunch of different outfits that are your
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  Speaker 1: outfits are good enough for our shoe. Essentially, yes, but
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  Speaker 1: we looked cute. We pulled it together. We did we did.
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  Speaker 1: It was very cute. I'm really proud of us. It
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  Speaker 1: was a really great way to kick off Lennox Heritage Month.
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  Speaker 1: Also approaching our five year lookover sory like, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's been hard to all to keep it going, not
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  Speaker 1: for lack of wanting to, but there's lots of things
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  Speaker 1: that happened behind the scene that can be they can
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  Speaker 1: get us really down, you know, and so well, we're yere,
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  Speaker 1: we're recording, we're producing, we're doing it, we're putting the
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  Speaker 1: content out. But it's been hard. But those moments are
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  Speaker 1: definitely not worth it. But those moments definitely remind us like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there's we're doing this for a reason. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: keep it pushing. We got this and it's all going
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  Speaker 1: in the memoirs. Oh yes, it's all going in the
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  Speaker 1: script for the for the feature film for the screenplay
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  Speaker 1: about our lives written by us starring us. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: how would you feel if there was a TV show
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  Speaker 1: made about us and you acted as you, but I
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  Speaker 1: did not act as me? Would you cast someone else?
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  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you act as you? I'm confused. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I would want to be the lead for me?
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  Speaker 1: What if? Can I? Can I hire someone to be me?
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  Speaker 1: Who would you hire to be you? I can't think
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  Speaker 1: of anyone. I can't think of anyone. No one can
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  Speaker 1: be me. You have to play yourself. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want I can't see myself doing that. I can see
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  Speaker 1: myself writing, I can be in the writer's room, I
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  Speaker 1: can be directing. I don't even know what to say.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to have to talk about this, because then
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  Speaker 1: that's a different story. If those are different people like
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  Speaker 1: who is this? Who is that? It would be someone
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  Speaker 1: acting as fiosa, like someone hired as I wish I
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  Speaker 1: could see my last face. She is not having it. Okay, fine, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. You
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  Speaker 1: can do it. Do it. Put me in some acting
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  Speaker 1: clauses tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, an acting coach goes a very
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  Speaker 1: long way. And you know what, every all those all
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  Speaker 1: those all those actors, all those actresses, they have acting
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  Speaker 1: coaches for every project, right right, right, all right, we'll
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  Speaker 1: get an acting coach, the acting coach to the stars,
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  Speaker 1: all right, and we'll be on our way. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: Mola's forcing me to be an actress to all it here. First,
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  Speaker 1: I resisted, I have already had you acting for years now.
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  Speaker 1: She really has. It's very true, you're an actress. Has
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  Speaker 1: me memorized scripts all the time. She's like, you can't
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  Speaker 1: read off of the paper, you have to memorize it.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, crying traumatized flashbacks of Catholic school. Mine,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it. Oh, No, I have become like the
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  Speaker 1: theater director. Yes, nightmares. Yes, MoMA is my stage mom. No,
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  Speaker 1: she's not. MoMA's great. She's great. She keeps she MoMA
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  Speaker 1: pushes me forward when I'm feeling shy, because I'm a
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  Speaker 1: shy girl, and so she pushes me forward. That's why
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  Speaker 1: this dynamic works, y'all. Five years later, it's so true.
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  Speaker 1: Balance and very supplementary, complementary skills and things. Yeah that
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  Speaker 1: we have. Yes, Yes, And I'm really excited for see
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  Speaker 1: and six because we are already working brainstorms. It's going
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  Speaker 1: our little fingers to the nubs. It's true. It's true.
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  Speaker 1: I barely have my nails on a little an impeccable, gorgeous.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling really silly, y'all. I'm tired. So we're exhausted. Yes,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: we introduce our guest, Okay, y'all, so we all want
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: to introduce You want to to bring on our guests
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that we have the privilege of chatting with today. We
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: have the privilege of hearing their trajectory, their story, how
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: they came into modeling and how they've actually been in
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the game for about ten years now, and so we
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: are super excited to be chatting with Eli sale L,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a local Chicano model has come out in a dual
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Leapa video ad cat video literally on video vixon so
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: beautiful Fierce Brows was one of the first openly gay
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: models for Born and Raised, a streetwear brand, And so
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking all about that today, his come up,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: his family background and all of that. So we're gonna
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: go on a quick song break and then we're gonna
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: bring on Elis sale So we'll chat soon. M m
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  Speaker 1: m m m m m m m m m of
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  Speaker 1: it and little ship. All right, Look, I'm what is
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  Speaker 1: We have an amazing guest today. Such a treat to
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: speak with the wonderful, beautiful, gorgeous, stunning Elie sale Equia today. Welcome.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Please say hello to our listeners. Elie sale Hi, everyone,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: it's me. Hey. How are you doing today? How are
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you feeling? I'm feeling great. I'm like, I'm excited to
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: be here. I can't wait to get to start it,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: like i've When you asked me to be a part
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: of it again, I was so excited like, yeah, let's
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: do it, let's do it. I'm so ready, let's do it. Yes, yes,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I mean you have been making your rounds. I feel
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: in like the Latino X podcast space. And when I
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: first heard your story and just a little bit more
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: about your work before I met you in person, actually
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: was through Cafic on Cheese Miss podcast and we're fans
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: of Cafic on Cheese men shoutout and yes me. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: so when I heard that, I was like, all right,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: we have to have at least so on. And then
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I met you in person and I was like, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: know you from the podcast, Please come on. I remember
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: when you came up to me and you came up
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: in your little green dress and your I thought it
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: was the cutest. Oh my god. I was walking around
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: like a little sunday Ya that day. You know that song, um,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: it's like a classic like dance Latin pop song is
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: called Bailando. But you reminded me so much of the singers.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: She's so cute. I was like, oh my god, look
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: at her. I felt the same way about you at Leisale.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: So I'm so happy to have you on. Um. So
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: let's just let's get into it, and I want to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: hear about just your origin story, a little bit more
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: about you, who you are and how you got into modeling. Okay, Okay, well,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I guess we can start from the beginning. So, Um,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I mean as a little kid, I've always been really
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: into fashion and glamour. I used to me and my
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: mom used to sit and watch novellas from like seven
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: pm to like ten pm, and I every single night
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: we watched Solid the Ones, and so I was really
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: into those glamorous women that used to come out on TV.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh my god, like you know, like
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: they were just everything to me. Um, And so that
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: really fueled like the ambition to want more, I guess
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: because I would see it on TV and I had
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: my godparents, Miss minos Um, were immigrants to like my
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: mom and dad and their friends from like the same
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: pueblo in Mexico, and they came here and they started
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: like selling food on the side of the street to
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like owning their own produce business, and they had a lot,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Like they were very wealthy people that were very self made,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and so being around not having a lot, but being
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: able to have access to like going to their ranch
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and seeing their big houses, and you know, made me
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: really realize, like I can have these things too if
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I really work towards them, you know, like it's not
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: unreachable for me. I've always kind of even when I
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: was little, like I always kind of was aware of
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: just like I've always wanted to make my own path
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and make my own way. Um, I couldn't. I worked
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: for a long time for people and for companies, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I just hated it, honestly, Like I I'm not the
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: kind of person that can sit behind a desk. I'll
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: get fired like that, Like it's just not even funny,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Like I can't. When I was you know, I spent
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of time as an adolescent just like really
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: being closeted and having this like really um coming home
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and just kind of having an escape in the novellas
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: and just seeing like, oh my god, like these people
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and this glamorous you know, all these things. Um. So
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: that's where the fuel for like modeling started for me. UM.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Once I graduated high school, I started to how did
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I honestly how it started is crazy because I was
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: like nineteen and one of my friends at the time
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: she signed me up for a modeling contest at the mall. Um,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I haven't thought about this in a
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: long time. This is funny. Which mall which mom, I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: was like the go to mall, like it was there,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you know, yes, yes she she Um, she signed me
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: up for this thing and for this contest that they
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: were having there, and I was I was like, okay,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I'll do it, you know, you know, like I just
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I've always kind of needed a push in away and
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: she pushed my ask like she literally was like you're
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: doing it, you know. So I was like okay, fine, Um,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I did it. I ended up winning for the guys.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: So they had like a like it was from men
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and um and I won and so um. Once I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: won that it kind of I remember thinking like okay,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: like fierce, like I can really like go after and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I what the prize was was, um, you got like
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: a little not a contract, but it was more so
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: like you were able to meet with an agent and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you know they would like push you to like which
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: direction you wanted to go. So I was doing that. Um.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And it was just a really different time and at
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: that time, I feel like everyone knows that you know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: from our generation. Um, how fast the times have changed. Um,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: because when I was starting, they're only looking for a
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: certain type of look, and if you didn't fit that,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you basically weren't getting any work. You know what kind
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: of look was that? I think we know, but let's
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: let's say what kind of look was that? Cutter Caucasian
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you know, that type of you know Abercrombie look. Um,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: that was. If you didn't look like that at that time,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you were not getting anywhere basically you know, um, very
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: like aero pasta what have you? Right, So if you
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: didn't look like that, if you didn't have like how
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: do I put it? Um, you know those features? Uh,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: it was really hard and I wasn't getting any work,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: so I took a long pause, I guess from doing it. Um,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I really just focused on myself and uh, acquiring new
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: skills and everything that I already had, I brushed upon them,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: you know, like everything that I had naturally, like my creativity,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the you know, I really studied what I wanted to do,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Like I really took train for Like I learned how
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: to runaway walk from Ford models. You know, they taught me.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I took classes where like addiction, and you know,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I really wanted to like really if I was gonna
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: do it. I was like, Okay, I'm not getting nothing
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: done right now. They're not letting me be who I am.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I can't get any anywhere with myself, so
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: let me work on myself. And I did that. Um,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I took a long positive guys, maybe like from the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: time I was like, let's say twenty three two up
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: until maybe like, um, so those four years I was
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: really just not doing anything creatively. I was really working
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I feel like a lot of people
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: don't know that too, is that I worked a lot
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, Like I've been in a system for um,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: photo shoots, for theatrical shows, UM. And then eventually I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: started my own little production company and I would produce
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: shows from my friends at a theater that I used
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to work at. So I got really in touch with
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: that whole behind the scenes aspect of it and learning
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a lot behind the scenes and realizing how important it
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: is to have a great team and to get along
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: with your team. And it's not really you know, when
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: a movie star wins an award, it's not really the
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: movie star who won the award herself. It's literally her
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and the whole crew that won the award. You know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: she couldn't have done it all herself, So I really
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: had to learn that. Yeah, Like I stopped doing behind
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the scenes work. Um once the pandemic started, I guess, um,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you know, and I came back home because my mom
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and dad's health kind of declined a little bit, and
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: so I came back and I started to take care
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: of them. And honestly, seeing them go through it with
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: their house really was like a like a huge fire
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: in my ass, and I was just like, you know what,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I don't care what then happens, Like I'm going to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: go after it like fullhead on. And that's what I've
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: been doing recently, Like I've just been, um putting myself
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: out there a lot, using my whole like brown body,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and just using it as a form of expression, and
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: that's really what and doing everything that speaks to me,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And that's really what's been, you know, opening a lot
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: of doors for me, just really going after what speaks
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: to me. Thank you so much for sharing Elisao. I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: have to say that I think we relate very strongly
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: with your story as creatives who you know, it's hard
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: out here in the various industries, and it can be
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: very like discouraging when you're not getting booked, when you're
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: getting booked but trying to pay you whatever the case,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: exactly as you've probably seen. And then you know, we
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: live at home, we contribute to the households, like our
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: parents struggle. We're trying to retire our parents. And how
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: do you make art when you don't have the resources available?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: So I'd also love to hear like, you know, how
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: do you just persevere and keep going? You mentioned the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: family lighting a fire under your ass. I'm thinking to like,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: on the business side of things, how do you keep
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it all sustainable? We'll see. I think for most creative people,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: most creatives are not business people. We tried, but we're not.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Are not to get an accountant, yea. So it's very
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: important too, at least for me. Um, I bounce off
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: of a lot of I mean, I have really good
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: role models, like my mom. Um. She used to work
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: for the district for a long time and then she
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: like the same as me. She honestly, I'm like a
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: huge reflection of my mom. I feel like because she's
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: very creative. She quit her secretary job for the school
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: district and and she started working for herself. She Um,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are familiar with Lincoln Heights,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: but there's used to be a mini model. Um, and
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: my mom used to own like three shops in there,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: and she used to sell addresses and for weddings. And
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: then so I was it was all of us, like
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: me and my brother and my sisters were used to
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: be there on the weekends and help her Broadway on Broadway. Yeah,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and so it was saying we did that, um selling
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: dresses and succeedos. And then she had a gift shop
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and so we all learned how to gift wrap and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: do all those things. UM. Honestly, that part of my
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: life I think shaped me a lot too, because I
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: was around such eccentric Um. I've always been around to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: such eccentric people like my mom and dad's friends, my
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: mom and dad themselves, my uncle's aunts and then their
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: friends in the swap me girl, Like we're just personalities
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: that you could not imagine, Like you cannot make these
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: people up, Like they're just so such characters. Oh my god.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I used to love going to work in the Swat.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: It was so much fun. I wish and you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: it's so poetica. Everything ended. We literally got to notice
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: that the um the landlord was selling was not renewing
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: her lease like the week, like a day before we
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: had to like know yeah, like a few days before
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: we had to like vacate everything, and so everybody was
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: scrambling like the last few days just getting their stuff out.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, can I ask which swapped me? The
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Lincoln Minimal? So I swapped me. I mean just because
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: it was like, you know, a little stand and that
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: stands with just like little shops. You know that we're
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: one um. But I used to love it, like every
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I used to love being friends with all of my
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: mom's school mothers that were there and all the like
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: their husbands were so fun they were so funny, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the people that used to shop there. It was just
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a great time. I really enjoyed being a part and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: like of the community in that way, like being around
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: just like characters and just people that are everyday people
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: like you learn so much from, you know, like people
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: like that that are just um trying to survive but
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: also show up every day with a smile on their
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: face and a good heart, and you know, it's so
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: much you can learn from people like that, you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: just a lot. Yeah, yes, I appreciate that too. Has
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like you meet people in the community and
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: you think to yourself, this person could be like headlining
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: stand up comedian, Like this person is presence and personality
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and jokes and outfits, and there's a lot of people
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: like that and what like you're in the in the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: swap meet or at the church or wherever in the neighborhood,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: wherever they are. Um, So I love that, so thank
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: you for bringing that up in your story. It's the true.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: And I like what you said earlier about how do we,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: as like people of color, how do we get ahead
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: when there's so m just like not adversity, I guess,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: but just like so much we have to overcome to
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: get somewhere, you know, even just like us as creative
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: people or just people that don't do the norm of
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: just like working at a job somewhere that's such a
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: like kind of taboo, and like the Latin community, because
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it's like you come here, you're part of a foundation,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: whether you realize it or not. And when you go
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: off the norm, you know, it's kind of like your
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: parents kind of freak out. They don't see it as
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: something uh worthwhile or anything that will lead for you know,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: any success. You know, you kind of have to prove
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: yourself to your family when you're not when you're a
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: creative person. You know, yeah, we do. I feel like
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: it's more like something to talk. I feel like it's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: such a bigger deal when you know, some when we're
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: able to get somewhere. That's what I guess, that's what
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. Yes, I mean we're definitely underserved
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: and right and under resourced, and so when we're trying
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to explain to our parents what we do, you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: we post pictures online, you know, you know what I mean.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's more than enough. But like they don't, they don't,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: they don't like how do they describe it? Right, It's like, oh,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: c Internet, But it's labor. It's real work, mom, it
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: is it is. It pays the bills. So, speaking of
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you know, you've done some incredible campaigns. I would love
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: to hear more about that, you know, and just to
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: fill catch our listeners up. You know, so you have
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: done some amazing campaigns, right, You've been in Savage by fenty,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you were in Duelipa's music video. You've done Doc Martin,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: You've done Born and Raised, and you were recently in
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: a Spotify Latin X Heritage Month campaign that we were
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: also a part of, which feels so exciting, so amazing.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Shout out. So talk to me about all these campaigns,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: all the work that you've been doing and how you're representing. Okay,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: well that, like I guess when you say it like that,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: it sounds crazy, huh. But I've literally just been doing
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: all these things. Um, honestly, like I've gone either I've
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: gone after them where I've been hit up for them.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Um for Born in Raised. Uh, Spanto the owner of
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a branch. Shout out to Spanto, I love. He's such
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: a nice man. He's such a great person, very kind,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: very humble. Um, you can learn a lot from someone
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: like him. Um, he honestly gave me a chance because
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I'm literally and this is for a lot of the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: stuff that I've done. Um, the first openly gay Chicano
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: for sure from mst L A that's doing something that's
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: been in that position or done that or been in
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: that music video, been in that campaign. You know. Um,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: So when Span still gave me the opportunity. He really
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: was the first one to give me something like that. UM.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I was the first openly gay Chicano from us l
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: A to be in his in his ads, you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: like it's a big deal, you know. UM, that's a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: very hetero brand, you know, like h and to have
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: me and they used me like it was. I remember
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: shooting it and it was a shoot was like a
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: bunch of people and we were all in front of
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: a car and it was the sunset was coming down.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: That was such a beautiful shoot, by the way, I
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: remember that happened and I was just thinking, like, oh
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: my god, like this is like a movie. But it
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: was stunning. UM. And I didn't think that they were
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: going to use just my photo for the app for
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: that campaign. I really thought, because there was so many
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: people involved, that they wouldn't they were going to use everything.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: But they just used my my photo and the clothes
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: sold out. And that's happened for every brand that I've
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: worked with. UM. Every single time they put me in
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: front of the camera with some whatever I'm wearing, it
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: sells out. And it's not even like it sells in
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a few days. It sells out in less than to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: me four hours whatever I'm wearing for them, UM, And
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that's fierce, girl, because as a gay person to be
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: doing stuff like that is crazy, you know. Um. So
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I did that for Spencer and I worked with him again. UM.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: He gave me an opportunity to have creative freedom for
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: a shoot for one of his collections and that was
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: so much fun. UM. I literally just shot everything with
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: two with three of my friends, a photographer, UM, a director,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and my friend who owned an al Camino. Her name's
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Prisca and she was assisting me the whole day today,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I mean the whole that day. The whole day she
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: was assisting me, and it was just such a great
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: time and the work resonated so well with everyone. I
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: was really pleased with the product and I was really
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: happy to see that Um. It was also like one
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: of the biggest like post ever UM on their page
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: and he told me that he sent me a message
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: and he was like yo, and he was all excited.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: It was so fun. So that happened with UM Born
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and Raised, and I just feel it's such an iconic
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and it's starting to become like such a part of
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: l a culture, like you go anywhere now anywhere where
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: there's a big crowd and you'll see multiple people with
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: something from born and raised, you know, and so to
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: be a part of that is such a big deal
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: to me. So I'll always be grateful to that suspense
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: it for that experience. Um, the Dua Lipa and the
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Doja Cab music videos, Honestly, Doja Cat was so much fun.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I did. I did not. You know, when you meet
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: these people, you do not like you have preconceived notions
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: about it. You just feel like there's such huge stars
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that you don't have time for nobody or anything, you know.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: But when I walked into set for the Doja Cap
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: music video, I showed up in like this this orange
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: number that I have and it's like an orange two
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: piece that I wear. And I showed up and the
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: stylists they took me to the stylists and the style
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: just looked at me up and down and she was like,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: oh my god, you don't need a nothing, and she's like,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: you're find the way you are and she all they
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: did because it was like a futuristic, uh alien theme
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: music video. Um, all they did was just put like
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: a headpiece saw me on one eye. So I looked
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: like a cyboard and then they just did like some
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: makeup on the other eye, and then they threw me
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: on set and then she walked in the Jaquat and
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I was in a scene with her, so it was
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: basically her the girl that was my scene partner, and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: then me and then Stosia's love interest was standing next
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: to me, so we were in a clip the whole time,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: and we were standing next to each other while they
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: were organizing things, and do Jaqat walked in and she
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: was real sweet to everyone. She said hi to everyone
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and then she would like compliment people, and she was
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: really great about acknowledging everyone in the room and being
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: real sweet to everyone. And then she she saw me
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: and she was like, oh you know she did. The
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: whole reaction was just like oh my god, like I
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: love your look and I don't know what and she's
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: and I told her like this is me, like I
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: wore this, and then she was like what she was like.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: It was just a cute ass experience and she kept
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: offering me shots the whole time. It was so funny,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: but she was just a really nice, sweet girl. Um yeah,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I had a great time on that set. It was
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: so much fun for Dua lipa. Um. That was a
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: whole other set where it was just stunning. It was
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: just the contrast between the stats is insane. Um. We
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: shot that video um in Santa Monica at the old
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: the original Getty Villa, so it was just stunning. I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: was it was like inside basically like a little castle.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: And I remember when I first saw Duali because we
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: shot for two days and the second day was when
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: she was going to be on set. The first image
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I saw of her, she was walking down the spiral
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: staircase and she was wearing a white like debutante gown.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, she looks so stunning in person. I
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: had like I she was like, I'm stuttering because she
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: was so pretty in person, like beautiful full. I was like,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: this sucking bit. She looks like a full princess walking
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: down these stairs. She was studying everything and again, very
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: sweet girl, very kind. Um. So it's really nice to
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: meet these people and they're really nice, you know, they
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: they're not. I guess it's kind of an insecurity, I
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: guess with within myself. You know, you're just just expect,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you have certain expectations about people, and you feel like again,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Like I said, they're so busy, they don't have time.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Their world is so wrapped up into they're doing, like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: they don't have time to acknowledge anyone. But they were
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: real sweet, real kind people. So yeah, it was a
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: great experience. Um, and everyone I've met on those sets
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: who I've had friends, we became friends, like a lot
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: of us. Um, we stayed in touch and we hang
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: out sometimes. Yeah, like those And actually I have some
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: music videos that I'm going to be coming out soon
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: that I'm in, so keep an eye off video fixing. Yes,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Oh sorry, go for it. No, I was just gonna say,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: first of all, I mean, you are so striking. The
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: first time that I saw your picture on Instagram, I
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: was like, these eyebrows, this space, Who is this person
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: like you truly just are one of those faces, one
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: of those people that just so striking, such a powerful
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: like presence. And you can wear some clothes, You can
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: really wear some fucking clothes. So I'm not shocked that,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: like you walk into a set, you blew everyone away,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: you model some garments, everyone wants to buy them. It's
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: not it's not shocking, but we're so excited for you. Congratulations.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: So sweet. Honestly, No, I grew up not really feeling
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: or being this way. Um, just because I grew up
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: closet and I grew Uh. I also grew up overweight,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: like I was really like I was a big girl,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and so I um all the attention that I get
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: now just because I really worked on myself and I really, um,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I started doing what speaks to me. UM.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Once I came out. I came out later in life.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't come out as a teenager. I came out
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: basically as a young adult. UM. And so before that
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I was closeted and I didn't really go out. So
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: when you say, like where this person from, that's literally
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: what everyone in like the gay community has the same
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: reaction with me because they had never seen me. Um.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I have a friend who's like a world famous drag queen.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Her name is Valentina. UM. I remember the first time
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: we hung out. UM, we went to dinner and gave
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: me like this whole speech is like, girl, I know
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: everyone in the stage. She's like I know everyone. She's like,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: and I've never seen you before. She's like, where the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: fund did you come from? Like very that you know? UM,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: And I and once I started coming out and being
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: around the girls and everyone, that was the same reaction
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: for for me, it's like, where did you come from?
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, I've literally been here in my whole life.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I've just never been you know. I was really I
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: grew up really shy and really um reserved. And then
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: once I stopped being that way, and it was just like, no,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be myself. I only really have a
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: short amount of time to really find out who I
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: am and you know, really go after life. You know,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I started traveling and really going UM to all parts
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: of the world and really diving into cultures on my own.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Like I traveled a lot by myself, UM, and I
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: feel like that's such a big investment in yourself for anyone.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: You can literally literally learn so much about yourself if
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: you are alone and you have only yourself two UM
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: look after and to fend for yourself. It really it
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: really does, like UM teach you a lot about yourself.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: And I really recommend that to anyone. UM travel and
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: travel alone at least once in your life. You'll learn
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: so much about yourself. You know, it doesn't matter where
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you reason, you know totally. I mean there's definitely a
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: theme here because our last episode we were talking about
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: solo travel and then we had the Brown girld travels
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: on the following episode, and here you are giving the
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: same advice. So I definitely think that, yeah, there there's
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: so much and hopefully someone takes what they need from that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: You know that it's it's good to get away wherever
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: that maybe even if it's locally. UM, and to do
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: it alone I think is important as well, very important.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: You learn so much. And then just because like I said,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I think because we're people of color and we're Latino,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: especially for Latinos, families are very um, it's really deeply
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: rooted in our like culture, you know, um be families first,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: family is important. Um, you're always you know, taking care
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: of your family. It's not just about you, you know,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: it's very that's the culture. UM. And so when you're
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: able to and I love it. I'm not saying that
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: it's a bad thing. It's such something beautiful that us
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Latinos have, is that we're very family oriented. Family is
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: very important to us. I think that's very important and
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing, like a beautiful trait to have
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: as a culture. Um and so. But I also think
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: it's very important for you to grow as an individual
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: and know who you are outside of your family because
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: you're family, yes, but you're also an individual. You're also
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: this is also your life on this earth. Like you
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: have to know yourself fully, you know, and um, you
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: can only do that if you're by yourself and really
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: able to think for yourself. If that makes sense, it
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: totally does. I mean, beautiful pearls of wisdom from a
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: beautiful person. I cannot tell you how delightful this interview
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: has been. I think that there are a lot of
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: people out there who are watching you and following you
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and are curious and want to know, like the story
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: behind the face. Yes, I will say you have like
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: you're very approachable, at least now you are. You also
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: have this very like mysterious demure to you. It's like yes,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: um and so, Yeah, you're very approachable, very sweet, but
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: also like you have this very like soulful mysterious energy
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: to level. Before we yeah, before we close out, I
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: did want to ask you about your last name, Aguia
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: and where it's from. And you you mentioned pre interview
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: that like it's very unique to a very specific place.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about that real quick. Okay. Of course
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I love having this question because I always grew up
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Um really, how do I put it? Proud and always
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: really aware because my uncles would always tell us. I
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: remember my grandma's house. My grandma lived like in Compton,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: HP area, UM, and she had this tree and in
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: like this huge tree and it was spitters and she
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: my uncle's carved our last name into the tree and
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: like big gas letters. And I was like a kid
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: when this happened. I was probably like three or four,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: and I remember seeing it as they were doing and
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: when they were done, and I was just like, what
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: is that? And then my uncle told us a whole story,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: and I thought it was like a whole like um.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I thought it was like a like a make belief story.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: But I went to Mexico when I was nineteen and
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: my uncle who's my grandma's brother, told me the same
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: story and he showed me books about it and it
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: was crazy. I was just like, oh, wow, this is
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: really true, like it's real. So the story is a
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: kiwa Uh comes from Metrakan, Mexico. Um. It's a tribe
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: of people and basically anyone who has The last name
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: is a descendant from a king that was from that
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: part of the of mexico Um during the Conquistades when
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: they were coming to Mexico Um. The reason why it's
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: so revered is because the name, the full name and
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: then it's been broken down through the years, was lee Tekiwaki,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: and then they shortened it through the years, like thousands
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: of years later or I don't know how many years later.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Honestly they shortened it down to a kiwa Um and
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the ways what the last name is now. But basically,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the reason why it's so revered in Mexico is because
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: that king was really a fierce warrior and he was
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: really um smart. So he was one of the him
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: and his people were one of the few tribes that
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: were conquered because whenever the conquists tried to come and
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: take over, they knew their land so well and where
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: they're like everything. They knew everything about their land, and
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: there were such good fighters that they always killed them
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: in their traps are like along their tracks, like they
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: never got to fully conquer them um. So anyone who
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: has the last name Um is basically related to each
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: other along the line. Thank you so much. For giving
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: some background and context to your your last name literally
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: your origin. Thank you. And then my dad, my dad's side,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: he's Um, he's witch all. So those people are from
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: like the Sierra of Nayari in the in the mountains.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: And I feel like everyone knows, you know, the Mexican
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: jewelry that like the beated jewelry that has like the
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: um which all um jewelry, Like that's um art there,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: that's their art, that's how they you know, that's what
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: they make, uh, which all is. So my dad's from
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: a pueblo calls sn Juanda Abajo Um Nayari. But they
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: come from this pueblo called sanis sent that that's up
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: in the mountains and Um it's a mining town. It's
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: like dated back to the six or something like that.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: That's when it was like um made into a town actually,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: but before that it was a week old territory. Uh.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: And we come from like bread people like my my
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: dad's family were like theo's of the town. And it's
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's so cute because honestly, like I'm just
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: like I see it even to this day. Um my mind.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: One of my sisters just bought a house recently and
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I thought it was such a cute little sign. Or
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: maybe it's just me being very spiritual. Um, but she
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: bought a house in Monterey Park and you guys, I
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: don't know if you guys are familiar with Money Park,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: but you know how when you're like by the a
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: MC theaters, there's like like those little mining things. I
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: don't know what they are on the side. It's her oil.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: It's like oil exactly. I don't know why I thought
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: it was mining or something like that. So I was
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, look like we're like we
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: come from a mining town. And there was my sister
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: buying a house. But you com literally see that little
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: thing right there. You know, you're trying to put the
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: pieces together in life. But symbolism exactly, the symbolism. Yeah, yeah,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I love it. Elias Sali, beautiful soul, beautiful person, beautiful interview.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for stopping by. I hope this
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: is not the last time we have to be friends. Now,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: after this, we're going to do all that we are.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: We are, Yes, we must, we must. So can you
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: tell our listeners where they can keep up with you,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: where they can follow you, and where they continue to
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: stand and um just be huge fans of you and
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: of your work. Oh thank you, I mean thank you
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: so much. That's real sweet of you. Um. I only
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: have really Instagram. Um not girl, I don't have all
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: those show all these things. I do not know about
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: these things. I only have Instagram and that I love
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: that and it's literally named el I s e oquay. Um.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I honestly have had such a great time with you guys,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: with you ladies. UM. I really enjoyed this interview, and
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it won't be the past one. Honestly. Yes, love,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: we will see you at Soho house or wherever we
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: end up. We'll see you there just being locas in
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: l A. Let's do it, Yes, yes, please, yes please.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: We've been stifled to the pandemic. We've been holding it
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: in where we can't hold it any longer. Alright, look
• 55:48
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• 56:09
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