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Chuck & Buck 2-17 Hour 1: We start day 2 in Peoria with a visit from Kevin Seitzer and Chris Rose, and are the Dodgers ruining baseball? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Paul Well, good morning, and welcome to day two of
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Speaker 1: our spring training coverage right here at Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 1: three point three kjr FM, Chuck and Buck in the Mornings,
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Speaker 1: live from Peoria.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: If you took the day off yesterday, if you went,
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Speaker 1: if your boss said to you you can have the
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Speaker 1: day off, and you decided, all right, I'll take the
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Speaker 1: day off. Well, you missed day one of our coverage.
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Speaker 1: Watch what's spectacular yesterday here from Mariner's spring training. But
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Speaker 1: day two we're out the top it so good morning
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Speaker 1: and welcome in. We got a little desert rain overnight
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Speaker 1: and it's chilled things down a little bit. But Bucky
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Speaker 1: is like, I'm still gonna wear a thong and a
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Speaker 1: halter top, but I have a jacket on.
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Speaker 3: Oh that's true, that's true. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I like getting some aaron with cheeks, if you know
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Speaker 4: what I mean. But I had to cover the arms
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Speaker 4: a little bit today.
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Speaker 3: Well that'll keep you protected.
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Speaker 1: Former Mariner Bucky Jacobson, My name is Chuck Powell, Ashley
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Speaker 1: Ryan back in our studios in Seattle.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Chuck and Bucken.
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Speaker 1: We're starting with a guest right off the bat one
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Speaker 1: of our favorite people in the organization, the hitting instructor
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Speaker 1: for your Seattle Mariners. He's the reason we went to
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Speaker 1: the American League Championship Series. I'm pretty sure he's the
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Speaker 1: only reason. Kevin Sitzer joins us here on the program.
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Speaker 1: Good mornings, Good morning, Happy spring training to you.
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Speaker 2: Happy to be here. Are you ready to do this again?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're I hear you're a couple bottles of
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Speaker 4: red wine. Richer forgiven our number number thirty three away
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Speaker 4: to Brendan Donovan.
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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, it was worth the trade, worth the trade,
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Speaker 6: I love. Yeah, he took care of me very good. Well,
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Speaker 6: it's great to see you.
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Speaker 1: And it seems to me that you guys are you
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Speaker 1: coaches are busier than ever. I can't walk by your
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Speaker 1: room without your being in a meeting. Has there been
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Speaker 1: a change.
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Speaker 3: In philosophy by Dan this year? What's going on?
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Speaker 6: No, I mean, these are meetings that we have throughout
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Speaker 6: the spring that we're trying to knock as many of
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Speaker 6: them out as we can early so we can kind
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Speaker 6: of be able to breathe in about two weeks. So No,
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Speaker 6: it's good. It's good. We're getting them knocked out. We
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Speaker 6: got it's been busy, really busy. We had a lot
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Speaker 6: of guys show up early. So today's first full squad,
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Speaker 6: but it feels like we've been full squad for about
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Speaker 6: four or five days already.
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Speaker 5: H nice. How's how was your off season to start with?
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Speaker 5: Was it? Was it? Goodest? Fast? Yeah? Well that's what
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Speaker 5: happens when you get.
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Speaker 2: And that's how I like it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I don't like the off season to drag I really.
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Speaker 6: I mean after the first of the year, I'm ready.
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Speaker 6: I'm looking at my watch how many more days until
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Speaker 6: I get to leave? So I love getting down here,
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Speaker 6: getting to work in spring springs one of my favorite
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Speaker 6: times a year, just because you just get to get
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Speaker 6: guys ready. It's more of a relaxed atmosphere and you know,
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Speaker 6: you start ramping up for the show.
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Speaker 1: What kind of contact do you have with the players
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Speaker 1: in the off season? Is it open door policy? You
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Speaker 1: can call me whenever you want, you can come meet me,
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Speaker 1: all meet you. How does how does it work in
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Speaker 1: the off season for you?
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Speaker 6: You know, my my format has changed over the years
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Speaker 6: as a coach, and you know the I check in
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Speaker 6: with the guys normally by text. There will be some
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Speaker 6: phone calls on occasion. They'll send some video on occasion,
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Speaker 6: but I like to give them their space. They hear
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Speaker 6: my mouth all year, you know, all me Edgar Mags.
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Speaker 6: It's we're We're with them for eight months, and so
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Speaker 6: I like to give them a break. We we have
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Speaker 6: check in meetings, more of the best version of your
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Speaker 6: self meetings that we'll get. We'll have with several of
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Speaker 6: the staff members and the players individually that you know,
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Speaker 6: we start talking about last year, what we're working on
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Speaker 6: for this year. They get to do a lot of talking,
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Speaker 6: you know, maybe some adjustments and whatnot. But I don't
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Speaker 6: I don't go see guys anymore unless they they want
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Speaker 6: me to.
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Speaker 3: I will.
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Speaker 2: But they're doing their thing.
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Speaker 6: Most of them have their hitting guy that they're working with,
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Speaker 6: and that's fine. And if I go in, what I
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Speaker 6: found is you go in for three or four days
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Speaker 6: once twice an off season, it's not really going to
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Speaker 6: change what they're doing. They're gonna be doing what they're
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Speaker 6: focused on. And you know, I can touch base and
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Speaker 6: talk to him about it the same as I can
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Speaker 6: look at it. But when I get down here and
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Speaker 6: get the whites of their eyes and be able to
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Speaker 6: ask point blank questions and be on top of it
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Speaker 6: day after day after day. That's when we get down
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Speaker 6: to business and we get them ready.
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Speaker 4: So I mean, just going back to last year a
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Speaker 4: little bit, I mean, being able to sit in the
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Speaker 4: dugout and watch Cal do what he did must have
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Speaker 4: been pretty enjoyable. I would imagine it was fun watching
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Speaker 4: from the seats we were watching from. But I mean,
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Speaker 4: there was definitely something different about his approach. He most
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Speaker 4: certainly from the right side, I mean, became more of
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Speaker 4: a complete hitter on both sides and doing damn image
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Speaker 4: from both sides. Was there anything in particular that you
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Speaker 4: guys were working on at this time last year or
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Speaker 4: throughout the year that led to sixty freaking home runs?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Big the big was conviction to the approach.
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Speaker 6: But probably I think he, you know, the first couple
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Speaker 6: of weeks of the season, he was struggling big time,
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Speaker 6: and he started working I would say maybe a week
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Speaker 6: after we got into the season on some mechanical adjustments.
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Speaker 6: He hesitantcy get too far forward, you know, a little
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Speaker 6: jumpy kind of falling, kind of crashing closing space, and
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Speaker 6: and so he really focused on you know, the old,
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Speaker 6: the old line of stay back, and that was kind
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Speaker 6: of one of the things that really turned him loose
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Speaker 6: and set him free to be able to to to
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Speaker 6: not jump and let the ball travel and then to
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Speaker 6: be able to stay behind the ball and work the
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Speaker 6: ball middle of the field. And you know, he still
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Speaker 6: pulled a ton of balls because he wasn't going to
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Speaker 6: be eight on fastballs. Was why he pulled so many homers.
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Speaker 6: But you know, his his mindset was middle of the
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Speaker 6: field and be on time. And so he he's he's
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Speaker 6: very smart too. His he's he knows how to think
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Speaker 6: in the batter's box. And it was like the hotter
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Speaker 6: he got, the easier it was for him to to
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Speaker 6: sit pitches hard and soft, and you know, he just
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Speaker 6: he just did a great job. It was it was
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Speaker 6: a tremendous goose bump type season watching him do what
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Speaker 6: he did.
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Speaker 3: He picked up a few fans along the way.
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Speaker 1: Uh, Kevin Sitzer is with us. Let's combine the last
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Speaker 1: two questions in one. Uh, the what your role is
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Speaker 1: in the offseason with cal I mean, what if he
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Speaker 1: comes up and and he's like, Hey, I know we
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Speaker 1: had a good year together last year, but I'm really
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Speaker 1: going to incorporate this Gary Sheffield batwiggle or this Joe
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Speaker 1: Mr Morgan, you know arm flap or I'm gonna I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna hesitate at the top of my swing like soda Horrow.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I really think it's going to help me.
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Speaker 1: I mean, somebody has a year like that and then
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Speaker 1: you know, do they just do the same thing because
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Speaker 1: you're going to try to get better. I mean I
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Speaker 1: think you would have had a heart attack if each
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Speaker 1: ye row would have gotten to me, would have showed
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Speaker 1: up at Spring being a slap hitter. So what do
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Speaker 1: you do in that case when people are tinkering too much? Well,
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Speaker 1: number one, he didn't do that. Number two I would
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Speaker 1: ask him if they are stupid.
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Speaker 2: You know, when.
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Speaker 6: Guys have great years, the worst thing that they can
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Speaker 6: try and do is get better. You had a great year,
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Speaker 6: you had a really solid year. And the one thing
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Speaker 6: we talk about a lot is a player's identity and
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Speaker 6: you know, being able to stay within that identity. And
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Speaker 6: you know, our guys really, I mean, hats off to
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Speaker 6: all of them being committed to that last year because
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Speaker 6: there's the there's lots of reminders, lots of conversations, not
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Speaker 6: just from the hitting coaches, but from Dan Manny, I
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Speaker 6: mean all the staff, and it's like, we're talking about
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Speaker 6: our identity, each guy individually, us as a team, and
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Speaker 6: let's let's go lay it out there.
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Speaker 4: I gotta ask one about the somewhat new guy, Josh
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Speaker 4: Naylor that we got locked up for you know, a
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Speaker 4: few more years after this, just I mean, I love
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Speaker 4: his approach. It seems like just an old school ballplayer,
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Speaker 4: the way that he kind of goes about his business.
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Speaker 4: Uh of what was it that you saw when he
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Speaker 4: came over? Did you know him before he came over?
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Speaker 4: And what does he bring to the table, because he
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Speaker 4: seems like a guy that between the years has has
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Speaker 4: got a damn good idea what he's doing up there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't know him before. When he got here,
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Speaker 6: you know, you're in the you're in the heat of battle, man,
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Speaker 6: I mean, you're pushing towards playoffs and all of that,
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Speaker 6: and you just kind of want to come alongside him
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Speaker 6: and ask questions. And you don't want to ask too
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Speaker 6: many questions because they're in the middle of the season
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Speaker 6: and you want them to.
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Speaker 2: Do what they do.
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Speaker 6: But it was really mostly let him play, ask questions.
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Speaker 6: When I saw things that I, you know, kind of
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Speaker 6: didn't care for maybe thought adjustment might be needed. And
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Speaker 6: he was stinking awesome. I mean flat awesome. Dude can
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Speaker 6: flat hit. Dude knows how to play the game. Dude
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Speaker 6: has the greatest feel and cord awareness between the lines
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Speaker 6: maybe of anybody that I've ever been around.
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Speaker 2: And that's a.
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Speaker 6: Big statement for me, because I don't I won't make that.
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Speaker 6: I played with a lot of guys who were just
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Speaker 6: flat ball players, who who knew the game and saw
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Speaker 6: the game and saw the little details that you know,
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Speaker 6: it's like, oh, that was pretty good. Oh the second
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Speaker 6: baseman shading a little bit on changeups and you know,
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Speaker 6: da da da da dah. And you know when the
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Speaker 6: picture does this or that, you know, it's like, holy cow,
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Speaker 6: that was that was pretty impressive that Josh is picking
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Speaker 6: up on that. He'd be barking. He he's up on
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Speaker 6: the rail watching everything all the time, and and just
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Speaker 6: great leadership qualities, hitters, meetings, giving feedback, helping the young guys,
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Speaker 6: and dude.
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Speaker 2: Just got flapped back to ball skills.
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Speaker 6: I mean he can just hit hit for average when
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Speaker 6: when he stays with I'm just gonna be a base
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Speaker 6: hit machine.
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Speaker 2: That's when it's really special.
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Speaker 1: Kevin Sitzer is with us, a hitting instructor for the Mariners, says,
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Speaker 1: we continue here on our start to our day two
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Speaker 1: of spring training coverage on the Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 2: Let's ask you your first impression of.
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Speaker 1: The newer guy, Brendan Donovan. What is your feel on
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Speaker 1: him thus far?
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Speaker 6: Gonna fit right in here like a glove. Yeah, and
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Speaker 6: he's just He's he's awesome. I'm everything we heard about him,
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Speaker 6: the makeup, everything is.
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Speaker 2: Just it's been spot on. We got a couple guys.
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Speaker 6: Pap, our minor league hitting coordinator, played college ball with
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Speaker 6: him and they were in each other's wedding, like best
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Speaker 6: man in each other's wedding. So he's out in the
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Speaker 6: cage with me and PAP's been able to fill me
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Speaker 6: in on some things too. But Donnie's just been great,
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Speaker 6: opening up conversations, what he likes, what he needs, what
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Speaker 6: he wants. Studded very very impressive dude too, as far
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Speaker 6: as preparation and the process. And I'm fired up to
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Speaker 6: have him big time.
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Speaker 1: I think the entire organization is fired up to have him.
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Speaker 1: Made it quite a priority in the off season.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean over our gene.
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Speaker 4: Just if you graded last year, what you what you
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Speaker 4: liked about what you had the offense do, right, I
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Speaker 4: mean they ended up going deep into this thing. I
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Speaker 4: think what eight outs away from getting to the you know,
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Speaker 4: kind of the promised land and giving yourself an opportunity
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Speaker 4: to win all but over our and I'm sure that
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Speaker 4: you kind of grade yourself and just grade everybody on, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: we want to put the ball in play a little more,
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Speaker 4: or you know, certain guys, we want to make sure
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Speaker 4: that we stay out of this longer slump or this
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Speaker 4: type of a problem. What were the grades that you
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Speaker 4: kind of gave to just the overall thing, and what
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Speaker 4: was it that you're thinking you really want to improve
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Speaker 4: on this year.
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Speaker 6: Well, you're spot on with what you're saying, because I
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Speaker 6: felt like we were very fortunate to be where we
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Speaker 6: were last year. I felt like there's a lot of
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Speaker 6: areas that we can improve on, and that's going to
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Speaker 6: be a focus this year. You know, attention, very detailed
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Speaker 6: attention to the little things, and what are the little
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Speaker 6: things situational hitting, moving runners, getting them in from third,
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Speaker 6: all the stuff that everybody says, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
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Speaker 6: what we.
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Speaker 3: Want to do.
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Speaker 6: We're going to really put a lot of emphasis on
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Speaker 6: our approach and our plan and the execution from day
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Speaker 6: one in spring training, and we're going to have lots
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Speaker 6: of conversations about making sure the thought process is right.
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Speaker 2: They're never going to be perfect at it. It's very
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Speaker 2: difficult to get.
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Speaker 6: The job done when you're getting a batter's box off
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Speaker 6: the pitching that we have to face nowadays. But as
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Speaker 6: long as the plan and as long as the mindset
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Speaker 6: and approaches right, that's all you can ask for with
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Speaker 6: these guys. And the times where you get excited in
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Speaker 6: a big situation and kind of loose focus of those
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Speaker 6: two things, that's what we got. A nip in the
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Speaker 6: butt and clean up so you know, try and put
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Speaker 6: the ball in play a little bit more.
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Speaker 2: We got some guys with swing and miss. That's part
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Speaker 2: of who we are.
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Speaker 6: Having Naylor and Donovan for the whole season is going
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Speaker 6: to help, you know, with our strikeout numbers because they
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Speaker 6: they can put the ball in play and you know,
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Speaker 6: but the other guys, it's like it's part of their identity.
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Speaker 6: It's like you don't want to go up there and
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Speaker 6: make col passive to try and not strike out. As
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Speaker 6: much when he's hitting homers. So you know, we try
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Speaker 6: and improve in those areas. And really it comes down to,
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Speaker 6: like I said initially, plan and approach, and if you
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Speaker 6: can maintain your approach with two strikes, you got a
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Speaker 6: chance to get it done. If your mindset becomes don't
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Speaker 6: strike out, just put the ball in play, You're not
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Speaker 6: going to see the ball as good.
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Speaker 2: You're not gonna have length in your swing. You're not
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Speaker 2: going to stay.
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Speaker 6: Short and inside the ball the way you want to
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Speaker 6: and through the ball to give yourself a chance to
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Speaker 6: foul it off or put the ball in play. So
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Speaker 6: those little detailed things, those are just tiny little things
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Speaker 6: that if we can everybody can improve one percent, you
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Speaker 6: know every week, we will be in good shape at
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Speaker 6: the end. So, yeah, there's a lot we need to
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Speaker 6: improve on from last year as a as an offensive unit,
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Speaker 6: and the guys are hungry and fired up and all
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Speaker 6: in on it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, last thing, because I know you've got a busy schedule.
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Speaker 3: I can't let you get out of here without asking
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Speaker 3: about Julio.
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Speaker 1: Last year, as good a job as you did, you
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Speaker 1: didn't have an answer for how you keep a guy
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Speaker 1: hot for six straight months.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, So did you solve that in the off season?
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Speaker 1: Do you now know how to get him started in
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Speaker 1: April so that he can have six months of All
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Speaker 1: Star play?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna say yes, and I'll let you know
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Speaker 6: for sure in June.
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Speaker 2: Perfect.
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Speaker 5: I believe it.
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Speaker 1: I'm bye if you're selling it? All right, Well, great
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Speaker 1: to see you. Thank you very much for stopping by.
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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Have another great year, all right, Kevin
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Speaker 1: sites are joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
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Speaker 1: in the morning, joining us at our set. And he's
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Speaker 1: got a run off to one of his thirty five
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Speaker 1: meetings today.
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Speaker 2: That's final.
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Speaker 1: We appreciate him joining us here on the radio show.
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Speaker 1: And yes, I mean as Julio was a little more.
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Speaker 1: I mean he had a fantastic year again last year
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Speaker 1: and being graded out as a top center fielder in
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Speaker 1: the game right now, but certainly, you know he started
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Speaker 1: the month of May with a two o seven batting average,
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Speaker 1: Bucky so still that that he hasn't had that hot start,
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Speaker 1: and we just keep waiting for man, if he has
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Speaker 1: a hot start, what could he do?
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Speaker 4: Man, I'm hoping to see that though, right well, I
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Speaker 4: think most people, I think there's you know, there's a
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Speaker 4: few turds in the punch bowl that want to bitch
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Speaker 4: and moan about a guy that's playing as well as
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Speaker 4: he has.
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Speaker 5: In his first four seasons.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's up there with some of the
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Speaker 4: all time greats as far as what he's done to
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Speaker 4: start his career off. And yet it's okay to also say, man,
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Speaker 4: what if he didn't start out so poorly? What if
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Speaker 4: he didn't have such slow starts? And and I mean
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Speaker 4: it's I think you're talking about, Uh, it wouldn't have
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Speaker 4: been just Aaron Judge and and Cal Rawly in the
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Speaker 4: conversation for MVP last year. Hulu has the talent obviously
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Speaker 4: to be able to thrust himself right into that too.
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Speaker 4: He just has to kind of get off to a
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Speaker 4: better start and not not to dig himself into a
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Speaker 4: little hole. I mean, I'll say one thing, it's commendable
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Speaker 4: how well he turns it around. There's a lot of
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Speaker 4: people that you start off and you're one hundred and
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Speaker 4: fifty abs into the season, you're hitting you know, you're
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Speaker 4: not hitting your weight, and it'll wear on you. You start
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Speaker 4: to press, you start to you know, stress out about
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Speaker 4: it a little bit. Every single out feels like it's
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Speaker 4: two or three outs. Every hit feels like it's a
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Speaker 4: half a hit because of the hole that you dug
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Speaker 4: yourself into.
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Speaker 5: He doesn't seem to have a problem with that.
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Speaker 4: He just kind of still trusts the process and trust
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Speaker 4: that eventually his talent is going to shine through and
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Speaker 4: he's going to turn into the dude that he is.
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Speaker 5: But God, I hope that.
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Speaker 4: I hope that sites are after one spring training, you
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Speaker 4: got to figure it's salt hitting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, he affected it.
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Speaker 5: He has.
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Speaker 4: You hear how often he says the word approach, it's
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Speaker 4: because it's important approach, approach, approach, and plan and ultimately,
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Speaker 4: whenever you meet someone or you start something new, the
17:52
Speaker 4: first time that you kind of go through it is
17:55
Speaker 4: it's a feeling out process. I have to think that
17:57
Speaker 4: last year at spring training, it's him gaining the trust
18:00
Speaker 4: of the guys, him getting to know what it is
18:02
Speaker 4: that they think about their own swing and their their
18:05
Speaker 4: own approach and their own plan when it comes to hitting.
18:08
Speaker 4: And then you got to tinker with it because once
18:10
Speaker 4: you get into the season, it's not time for overhaul,
18:12
Speaker 4: it's not time for drastic changes. So now all of
18:15
Speaker 4: a sudden, he has an offseason to think about it.
18:17
Speaker 4: He didn't have to build the rapport with him to
18:19
Speaker 4: start the season off. It's kind of hitting the ground
18:21
Speaker 4: running in spring training. So I'm hopeful that he can
18:24
Speaker 4: and and hopeful that he can get him off on
18:27
Speaker 4: a good start and the rest of the offense for
18:28
Speaker 4: that matter.
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Speaker 1: Well, a great way to start our day two spring
18:31
Speaker 1: training coverage. A little overcast today, a little overnight desert rain.
18:36
Speaker 1: You know Annie Lennox used to sing about it. I
18:38
Speaker 1: know that and and I miss her for it. And
18:42
Speaker 1: so a little bit of a different tone to get
18:44
Speaker 1: the start. The show started here today, and so let's
18:48
Speaker 1: find out what's on tap for the rest of the program.
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Speaker 5: What's on TEP, what's on tap?
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Speaker 1: All right, Marener? Spring training our focus. Cal Raley's back
19:00
Speaker 1: in the building. He took yesterday off just feeling a
19:03
Speaker 1: little bit under the weather. So why at this stage
19:05
Speaker 1: push it at all? So he rested up yesterday and
19:08
Speaker 1: he's back and ready to roll. Also, if you didn't
19:12
Speaker 1: check out our show yesterday, we've got we had a
19:15
Speaker 1: great lineup. I know people were off for President's Day,
19:18
Speaker 1: maybe missed the show. Well you got this old podcast
19:21
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Speaker 1: So you can go to ninety three three kjar dot
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19:29
Speaker 1: it for you. Jerry Depoto, Gabe Spier, Rick Riz, Mike Cameron.
19:34
Speaker 1: We had Ryan Sloan and Kate Anderson on together a
19:37
Speaker 1: heck of a way to start our spring training coverage,
19:39
Speaker 1: and today we're going to try to top it. Cole
19:41
Speaker 1: Young's going to join us today at seven o five.
19:44
Speaker 1: We will also have Brendan Donovan today at eight o'clock.
19:48
Speaker 1: Who knows what other surprises we're going to have, And
19:51
Speaker 1: we'll also replay that Jerry Depoto conversation for you because
19:55
Speaker 1: we think it's important for you to hear, so we'll
19:57
Speaker 1: do that in the nine o'clock hour today right here
20:01
Speaker 1: on the live radio show. Olympics of course continuing, Man,
20:06
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever watched less Olympics than
20:09
Speaker 1: what I have this year. The hockey team, by the way,
20:12
Speaker 1: gets back on the ice tomorrow. Still don't know who
20:14
Speaker 1: they will play tomorrow, but Everett fits you will be
20:18
Speaker 1: with us today. We got to check in with Everett.
20:20
Speaker 1: He's been on vacation through all of this, so he'll
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Speaker 1: join us the voice of the krack in today at
20:25
Speaker 1: eight thirty, as he does most Tuesdays throughout the season.
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Speaker 1: And today is the start of the franchise tag process
20:32
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and so Franchise Tag Day
20:37
Speaker 1: brings up the question is Ken Walker a candidate for that?
20:40
Speaker 1: Reports this morning from Adam Schefter and others suggesting that
20:45
Speaker 1: that's not something that the Seahawks are really considering. We'll
20:48
Speaker 1: find some time to talk about that a little bit
20:50
Speaker 1: later on in the show, as the Super Bowl MVP
20:54
Speaker 1: could be hitting the free agent market. Of course, Schefter
20:57
Speaker 1: and the others also hammering home the point that they
21:00
Speaker 1: do want to keep Walker, just aren't really that excited
21:04
Speaker 1: about ever using the franchise tag, so it might not
21:07
Speaker 1: be in ken Walker's future all right. Coming up next
21:11
Speaker 1: year on the radio program, we will of course talk
21:15
Speaker 1: more about what's coming up for the Mariners and for
21:18
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball.
21:20
Speaker 2: One topic that I.
21:21
Speaker 1: Want to discuss with Bucky today is the Dodgers and
21:25
Speaker 1: what they've done to the sports Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 3: Them back in the morning.
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM. Our
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Speaker 1: spring training coverage continues, and look who we stumbled upon.
21:38
Speaker 1: What an interesting guest to throw on the radio program
21:41
Speaker 1: down here at spring training. He does baseball stuff with
21:46
Speaker 1: a job boy that he's down here for at spring training,
21:49
Speaker 1: but we also know him for his football stuff with
21:53
Speaker 1: the NFL NETWHEK. Chris Rose is with us here on
21:56
Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck in the morning. How are you great?
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Speaker 7: It's great to be out cover and baseball a week
22:01
Speaker 7: after covering Super Bowl sixty, so I'm sure the city
22:05
Speaker 7: is still glowing and it should be.
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Speaker 2: Wow, we're on fire, Chris, We're on fire.
22:09
Speaker 7: And for a guy from Cleveland, Ohio, it is really
22:12
Speaker 7: tough to stomach. But I'm happy for you because I
22:14
Speaker 7: always have loved going up to Seattle over the years,
22:17
Speaker 7: whether it's for the Seahawks game or Mariners or anything
22:20
Speaker 7: else that I have to go up there for.
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Speaker 5: And so you guys deserve it, enjoy it.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, thank you very much, very nice of you.
22:26
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I will say a Cleveland Brown fan would
22:28
Speaker 1: say that, though, I mean, there's so many like bitter
22:32
Speaker 1: sports fans out there.
22:33
Speaker 3: Fans are always also so nice.
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Speaker 7: No, I mean, listen as long as Pittsburgh or Baltimore,
22:38
Speaker 7: Cincinnati doesn't win it, then somebody else can go do that.
22:42
Speaker 5: We're perfectly fine with it. I will say this.
22:44
Speaker 7: I went out and did the last hour of Game
22:47
Speaker 7: day morning on NFL Network and then did the postgame
22:49
Speaker 7: show as well, which I'm sure we'll get to. But
22:52
Speaker 7: as I was sitting in the outside set with Michael Robinson,
22:55
Speaker 7: who of course helped you guys win Super Bowl forty eight,
22:58
Speaker 7: and MJD and I turn it was probably like ninety
23:02
Speaker 7: percent Seahawk fans. I was really impressed. I know you
23:05
Speaker 7: guys have always traveled exceptionally well. And the other thing
23:08
Speaker 7: is like, that's the closest you got to Seattle right
23:11
Speaker 7: in anything, in any sport. So get there and you did.
23:16
Speaker 7: You represented it, and it was fantastic to see.
23:19
Speaker 1: As you were watching the season unfold, when did it
23:22
Speaker 1: start to click with you and maybe some of your
23:24
Speaker 1: colleagues like, wait a minute, this team's the real deal.
23:29
Speaker 7: I actually thought, oddly enough, it was a game you lost,
23:34
Speaker 7: and was the last game you lost in Los Angeles.
23:37
Speaker 7: The fact that you guys had a chance to kick
23:39
Speaker 7: a sixty one yarder and win. When Sam Darnold got
23:42
Speaker 7: picked off four times. Yeah, if your quarterback gets picked
23:44
Speaker 7: off four times on the road against arguably the best
23:47
Speaker 7: team in the league, you think And would we lose
23:49
Speaker 7: by seventeen twenty? No, we lost by two and had
23:52
Speaker 7: a shot to win it on the last play of
23:54
Speaker 7: the game. Like that's when I knew, Okay, this team
23:57
Speaker 7: is great, like really really talented.
24:00
Speaker 5: Uh.
24:01
Speaker 7: And then obviously that Week sixteen game, I still go
24:04
Speaker 7: over my head if Zach Sharbonay isn't polite, it's possible
24:08
Speaker 7: that NFC Championship games played in Los Angeles, right, Like,
24:11
Speaker 7: how many guys. I've got a kid. My oldest son
24:14
Speaker 7: is twenty five years old. I can't get him to
24:16
Speaker 7: pick up anything. So he goes over and he picks
24:19
Speaker 7: up a ball, and he cleans up his room and
24:21
Speaker 7: he gives it to the referee and he says, hey.
24:23
Speaker 5: That's nice. Wow. I thought that was pretty impressive.
24:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, So skip ahead then to the Super Bowl and yeah,
24:32
Speaker 1: you did the postgame show there on NFL network.
24:35
Speaker 2: So was there We weren't watching it necessarily you were.
24:39
Speaker 1: I get it, I understand, but was there were you
24:42
Speaker 1: guys surprised at how easy it kind of looked that night.
24:46
Speaker 3: What was the overriding sentiment there on the set.
24:48
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say shocked, because so many people felt like
24:52
Speaker 7: I mean, I thought they were gonna win. I had it,
24:55
Speaker 7: I think twenty four to seventeen, and that was more
24:57
Speaker 7: hoping than expecting. I thought maybe if the Patriots could
25:03
Speaker 7: get a short field or here or there. It's hard
25:05
Speaker 7: to move ten twelve plays against that defense, particularly the
25:09
Speaker 7: way it was playing. And I know that New England
25:11
Speaker 7: played some really really good defenses, but they went against
25:14
Speaker 7: the Chargers who don't have any tackles. They went against
25:17
Speaker 7: the Houston Texans and it looked like CJ. Stroud was
25:20
Speaker 7: a JV quarterback unfortunately at times. And then they go
25:23
Speaker 7: against a backup in Denver and they don't have anything
25:26
Speaker 7: to apologize for. They got there. They turned their season
25:29
Speaker 7: from one season to the next. They go from four
25:31
Speaker 7: wins to you know, the super Bowl, and it was
25:34
Speaker 7: really impressive. It's just it felt like two different leagues
25:37
Speaker 7: out there.
25:38
Speaker 4: How surprise were you with Mike McDonald's game plan against
25:44
Speaker 4: against Josh McDaniels.
25:46
Speaker 5: I mean to me that I thought that was yeah,
25:47
Speaker 5: I thought that was really impressive. Repancy of yeah coaching yeah.
25:51
Speaker 7: I mean, listen, that's the way the Seahawks ran the
25:53
Speaker 7: table with They finished by winning ten in a row.
25:56
Speaker 7: The only team that could move the ball against them
25:58
Speaker 7: was a Rams. That was it.
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Speaker 5: Every other team struggled.
26:01
Speaker 7: And so it doesn't matter whether Josh McDaniels has a
26:05
Speaker 7: great game plan or not, you still get And I
26:07
Speaker 7: think what we learned about New England's offensive line, I
26:10
Speaker 7: can tell you this from having called two of their
26:11
Speaker 7: games in twenty twenty four. Their offensive line and wide
26:15
Speaker 7: receiver room were two of the worst units of football
26:18
Speaker 7: I'd ever seen in my life. So they actually massively upgraded,
26:22
Speaker 7: but they still need help, particularly against the defensive front.
26:25
Speaker 7: Like you've got those two monsters in the middle in
26:28
Speaker 7: Murphy and Leonard Williams. They are just terrific and their
26:32
Speaker 7: push changes the way that you can game plan.
26:36
Speaker 1: Chris Rose is with us from NFL Network also John
26:39
Speaker 1: Boy Media. He's here covering the Mariners spring training, which
26:43
Speaker 1: we'll get to in a moment. His thoughts on the Mariners.
26:45
Speaker 1: Huge baseball fan as well as a huge football fan.
26:49
Speaker 1: But we did this thing this season. Obviously, we had
26:53
Speaker 1: to talk about Sam Donald a lot, talk about all
26:55
Speaker 1: the critics of Sam Donald. We started handing out what
26:58
Speaker 1: are called scarlett d's, Chris, like the Nathaniel Hawthorne scarlet letter.
27:03
Speaker 1: We would give scarlet d's to people that could not
27:07
Speaker 1: just accept the fact that he was actually good.
27:10
Speaker 2: Now, so did you be honest with this? Should we
27:13
Speaker 2: have given you a scarlet D?
27:15
Speaker 1: Or was there anybody at NFL network who most deserved
27:19
Speaker 1: a recipient of a scarlet D?
27:21
Speaker 7: I think a lot of people probably were skeptical, right,
27:24
Speaker 7: I mean a year ago when he got the job
27:27
Speaker 7: in Minnesota, everybody said, okay, well you've got you know,
27:31
Speaker 7: real interesting wide receiver groove.
27:32
Speaker 5: Let's see what you can do. And they end up
27:34
Speaker 5: winning fourteen games.
27:35
Speaker 7: Okay, he got them to the playoffs, or you know,
27:38
Speaker 7: on the precipice of the playoffs, let's see what you
27:40
Speaker 7: can do, and it must win Week eighteen in order
27:42
Speaker 7: to get the one seed. Well, we all saw what
27:44
Speaker 7: happened in Detroit. Then we saw what happened the next
27:47
Speaker 7: week out here in Arizona, where the Rams had to
27:49
Speaker 7: play their home playoff game because of the fires, and
27:52
Speaker 7: people were gonna question him. And it's fair, I mean,
27:55
Speaker 7: it's not unfair because the script played out similarly, except
28:00
Speaker 7: that this year he also led the league in turnovers
28:02
Speaker 7: and those are facts.
28:03
Speaker 5: Those aren't. That's not being mean to a guy, those
28:07
Speaker 5: are facts. Uh.
28:08
Speaker 7: And so when he gets to the playoffs, there are
28:10
Speaker 7: going to be people who are not going to be
28:12
Speaker 7: willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until
28:14
Speaker 7: they see it. And he played great and particularly under pressure, right,
28:19
Speaker 7: I mean what quarterback is great under pressure? Not a
28:22
Speaker 7: lot of them. A lot of them struggle and that's
28:23
Speaker 7: where they have their turnovers, especially Sam. And for him
28:27
Speaker 7: to put up the statistics that he did, I think
28:29
Speaker 7: against San Francisco and the Rams, he threw four total touchdowns,
28:32
Speaker 7: all four were under pressure. So it was great. He's
28:35
Speaker 7: a really good kid that didn't lose his way, that
28:38
Speaker 7: fought like hell to get where he is, and he
28:41
Speaker 7: deserves all the accolades.
28:42
Speaker 1: Now sounds like maybe you could have used the scarlet deal.
28:46
Speaker 1: Probably let's say lowercase scarlet lowercase. Yeah, I'll take the lowercase.
28:51
Speaker 1: I would be like Jacob deGrom with the lowercase D.
28:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd be the first to get the lowercase A
28:58
Speaker 4: big one, like it's a cape on their back. So
29:02
Speaker 4: how big of a I mean, I think a lot
29:03
Speaker 4: of people know you, maybe more from the NFL side
29:05
Speaker 4: of things, but the baseball is is right there.
29:07
Speaker 5: How big of a baseball fan? Huge? Huge?
29:10
Speaker 7: I mean, listen, I spent a decade at MLB Network
29:13
Speaker 7: with intentional talk. When that ended, you know, I've had
29:18
Speaker 7: what I like to say, a soft landing with John
29:22
Speaker 7: Boy Media.
29:22
Speaker 5: They're an amazing story.
29:25
Speaker 2: What do you think of this team?
29:26
Speaker 5: Great?
29:27
Speaker 2: Yeah?
29:28
Speaker 5: Great?
29:30
Speaker 7: The two series they played last year against Detroit and
29:33
Speaker 7: Toronto were two of the most wonderful baseball series that
29:36
Speaker 7: we've had. Dramatic, a lot of momentum swings, so many storylines,
29:43
Speaker 7: things you could question, things you appreciated about the sport.
29:50
Speaker 7: Look are they gonna miss Polanco and Suarez? I know
29:54
Speaker 7: that you know did not have a good second run here,
29:57
Speaker 7: but he still hit forty nine homers last.
29:59
Speaker 2: Year, hit a big playoff.
30:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I heard about that.
30:05
Speaker 7: But I love the Brandon Donovan pick up. I think
30:08
Speaker 7: that he is a He's a perfect guy for this team.
30:11
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna hit lead off. You can put
30:13
Speaker 7: him wherever you want, which is great. And I think
30:17
Speaker 7: the rob Reth Snyder signing, that's what you're not gonna
30:20
Speaker 7: mention I don't understand why more teams weren't in on him,
30:25
Speaker 7: like with the lack of right handed ability in this league.
30:30
Speaker 7: A guy like that who doesn't need consistent at bats
30:32
Speaker 7: to produce, I think he's invaluable. I just I didn't
30:36
Speaker 7: get it, And I think you guys are really fortunate.
30:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a big fan of the way they are
30:41
Speaker 5: stacked up right now. Really good.
30:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait to watch what I think is
30:46
Speaker 4: should have been the MVP. Go again, How pressure were
30:48
Speaker 4: you with cal roly last?
30:49
Speaker 5: Great?
30:49
Speaker 7: I mean I can't imagine. Even though he won't say it,
30:53
Speaker 7: I'll say it for him, Like, what the hell does
30:55
Speaker 7: he have to do to win an MBA eighty eight?
30:58
Speaker 7: Maybe eighty maybe catch one hundred and sixty one game?
31:02
Speaker 7: Uh huh, We'll give him a day off and uh yeah,
31:06
Speaker 7: look he's great. Is he gonna hit sixty? Probably not.
31:10
Speaker 7: Is he gonna hit fifty? I even think that would
31:12
Speaker 7: be a chore. Yeah, if the guy gives you forty
31:14
Speaker 7: switch hits plays, you know, the sort of defense handles
31:18
Speaker 7: the pitching staff the way he does. We just don't
31:20
Speaker 7: know what goes into that position. It is so tough,
31:23
Speaker 7: I would say, behind quarterback. It's as challenging a position
31:26
Speaker 7: as there is in sports, So I don't know, I mean, listen.
31:30
Speaker 7: I also didn't have a problem with Judge getting it
31:32
Speaker 7: because he is he is such a freaking yeah so
31:36
Speaker 7: changes the dynamic of that team when he's there as
31:39
Speaker 7: opposed to when he's not. But I would have had
31:42
Speaker 7: zero problem if Cali guy.
31:44
Speaker 5: Zero.
31:44
Speaker 3: Well, good to have you on.
31:45
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, my pleasure.
31:46
Speaker 5: Guys.
31:47
Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you all right.
31:48
Speaker 1: Chris Rose on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 5: The bons Brood.
32:12
Speaker 3: Look at that that sun coming out there.
32:14
Speaker 2: Look at Buggy over there soaking it all in.
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Speaker 7: We had pretty different experiences this morning weatherwise, do we know?
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Speaker 5: Huh?
32:21
Speaker 1: We had rain on the ground, Ashley. I mean we
32:23
Speaker 1: had overnight desert rain, and then it.
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Speaker 3: Was frozen shut. Oh yeah, wait, I'm not gonna laugh.
32:30
Speaker 3: You guys got freezing rain last night, didn't I think so?
32:32
Speaker 1: Because it was frozen shut and then the hill coming
32:35
Speaker 1: down from my house was incredibly slibbery. I was like, oh,
32:38
Speaker 1: I'd sit in the car for like seven minutes to
32:40
Speaker 1: defrost it.
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Speaker 3: Oh, and then ice chunks were just falling off my car.
32:44
Speaker 5: The whole drive in.
32:45
Speaker 3: It sounded like my car was cracking apart.
32:47
Speaker 1: All right, let me change it. Buggy is not soaking
32:49
Speaker 1: in the sun right now. I was totally lying about that.
32:54
Speaker 5: The whole drive in.
32:54
Speaker 6: I kept thinking those a holes in Arizona, there's so
32:58
Speaker 6: right now.
32:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, sun didn't just rise perfectly and bust through the
33:03
Speaker 1: clouds right now and splash us light here, well needed
33:07
Speaker 1: warm photo still pitch. Yeah, so that didn't happen. Bucky's
33:13
Speaker 1: not moaning and groaning in delight of having the Arizona
33:17
Speaker 1: sun wash over his skin.
33:19
Speaker 2: That none of that happened. None of that is happening
33:22
Speaker 2: right now.
33:22
Speaker 3: As more similar than I thought.
33:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's we're pretty iceed over here.
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Speaker 1: Day number two, and we had a great day number one.
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Speaker 1: By the way, if you did not check it out,
34:17
Speaker 1: I mean I can't think of a better day.
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Speaker 3: If you're sitting there.
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Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh, I forgot.
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Speaker 1: I took the day off yesterday and I forgot there
34:22
Speaker 1: were doing spring training coverage and I missed Day number one.
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Speaker 3: Well it was sensational.
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Speaker 1: But the good news is you can find at ninety
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Speaker 1: three to three KJR dot com and podcast form. Part
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Speaker 1: of our day number one was chatting with Jerry Depoto.
34:36
Speaker 1: We had a great conversation with l Presidente or As
34:40
Speaker 1: Las Montes calls him el hefe and so one of
34:45
Speaker 1: the things that we brought up to Jerry the Los
34:48
Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers.
34:49
Speaker 2: A lot of people are.
34:51
Speaker 1: Claiming that they are ruining the sport of baseball and
34:55
Speaker 1: leading us toward a lockout.
34:57
Speaker 3: I asked Jerry Depoto.
34:58
Speaker 8: If he feels they are ruining the sport, I just
35:01
Speaker 8: think they're awesome. They're deep, they have stars everywhere. They've
35:05
Speaker 8: done it generally speaking, they're good at scouting, they're good
35:08
Speaker 8: at player development, they're good at roster building. And you know,
35:11
Speaker 8: I I get it. You know, it's a their payroll
35:14
Speaker 8: is considerably higher than than just about anybody else in
35:17
Speaker 8: the league. And you know, and and very much higher
35:21
Speaker 8: than the teams that are outside the top three or four.
35:23
Speaker 8: I say that, and it's it's hard to be to
35:27
Speaker 8: take shots at what they've built. And you know, and
35:30
Speaker 8: and the people I think they're smart. They've done a
35:33
Speaker 8: good job. They take advantage of the resources they have
35:35
Speaker 8: and the market they work in, and and and they
35:38
Speaker 8: do what they do. There's always been teams like the Dodgers,
35:41
Speaker 8: you know, in our baseball lives, there's been dominant teams.
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Speaker 8: Sometimes they're big market teams, sometimes they're they're not, but
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Speaker 8: they don't always win the World Series. And you know,
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Speaker 8: it's a it's part of being consistent over time and
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Speaker 8: showing up and just banging down the door. We feel
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Speaker 8: like we have the ability with the roster we have
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Speaker 8: to go toe to toe with anybody, regardless of the
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Speaker 8: size of their payroll or how many stars they signed.
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Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto with us yesterday on the program. Again, you
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Speaker 1: can hear the entire conversation on the podcast. We're also
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Speaker 1: going to replay it for you today at nine o'clock
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Speaker 1: since for some of you you did take advantage of
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Speaker 1: the holiday and the day off. So this is going
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Speaker 1: to be a big conversation all year long. We just
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Speaker 1: heard today Jeff Passing reporting that Tony Clark is resigning
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Speaker 1: as the head of the MLBPA.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what that.
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Speaker 1: Means, could mean a number of things, but we're getting
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Speaker 1: ready for quite the battle between Rob Mann for the
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Speaker 1: commissioner and the Major League Baseball Players Association, and we
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Speaker 1: just all, at the end of the day, just want
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Speaker 1: baseball to continue, especially in Seattle. We've entered this championship
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Speaker 1: window like I don't think the organization has ever experienced before,
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Speaker 1: and I don't want any disruption to that for Mariners
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Speaker 1: fans who are still waiting to get to the World Series.
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Speaker 1: But the Dodgers are gonna be a major topic of conversation,
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Speaker 1: and I think Rob Manfred's letting him run amuck with
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Speaker 1: it all just so that he can use it as
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Speaker 1: ammunition in that debate to try to get a salary
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Speaker 1: cap going forward.
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Speaker 4: Well, they're not doing anything illegal. They're just they're just
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Speaker 4: kind of finding their way through the rules. And the
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Speaker 4: way that Jerry discusses it is and it makes sense.
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Speaker 4: I mean is if you feel that your business model
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Speaker 4: allows you to kick a can of you know, one
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Speaker 4: hundred million, two hundred million, seven hundred million, a billion,
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Speaker 4: two billion dollar can down the road, and you want
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Speaker 4: to do that later on, I mean I said it
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Speaker 4: to me. It's like, well, if if just thinking of
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Speaker 4: it as an investment, right, if you were going to
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Speaker 4: sell an investment, Well, if you buy a team that
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Speaker 4: is should make it to the playoffs without a doubt
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Speaker 4: and have a chance to win a World Series for
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Speaker 4: a stretch of time five six, seven years where you
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Speaker 4: could maybe win one, two, three, four of them, well
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Speaker 4: then the private of the value of your your asset
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Speaker 4: has gone up substantially. Now when you sell that for
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Speaker 4: you know, they could probably sell the Dodgers at some
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Speaker 4: point in time for fifteen billion dollars something absurd. Well,
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Speaker 4: now you have no problem kicking that. Here you go here,
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Speaker 4: I'll pay off that four billion dollars of deferred money
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Speaker 4: so that the new ownership doesn't have to take that
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Speaker 4: into account, whatever it might be. It basically just boils
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Speaker 4: down to the Dodgers are not worried about what when
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Speaker 4: that bill comes due down the road. Other organizations have
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Speaker 4: to worry about that a little bit more. I don't
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Speaker 4: think it's necessarily like if we do that, we will
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Speaker 4: go broke. As much as it is, we just won't
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Speaker 4: be able to do what we want to do with
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Speaker 4: the rest of our payroll if we do that, And
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Speaker 4: so it's not illegal, But at the same time, it
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Speaker 4: does worry me that the owners are going to use
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Speaker 4: that as hey, we can't keep up with them. And
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Speaker 4: look at if they go out and win another World
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Speaker 4: Series and now all of a sudden, you're threatening the
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Speaker 4: integrity of the game or the fairness of the game
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Speaker 4: to some degree, and then you could have yourself a
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Speaker 4: battle when it comes to the next collective bargain agreement
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Speaker 4: and maybe a work stoppage, which I don't want.
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Speaker 1: Well, and look, I mean, it doesn't matter if the
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Speaker 1: Dodgers can pay off the bill, if they're still going
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Speaker 1: to use it and they're going to try to get
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Speaker 1: a salary cap in place, and it's going to be
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Speaker 1: the fiercest battle that they've ever fought. And frankly, the
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Speaker 1: Mariners and we will talk about this more later in
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Speaker 1: the week, the Mariners aren't worried about it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I've talked to both of the big head honchos. They're like, no,
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're not worried about the financial discrepancy. We've
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Speaker 1: got a chance to win the World Series this year
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Speaker 1: and we're planning on, you know, doing that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's the that's the goal. And Jerry went as far
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Speaker 1: as praising them. I think they're awesome, you know at
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Speaker 1: what they did. You just heard that in the in
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Speaker 1: the clip. But what the what they're the belief is
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Speaker 1: and what the fear is is that fans don't get that.
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Speaker 1: And if fans don't understand that, they're not bothered by it,
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Speaker 1: then it's going to affect the financial bottom line. They're
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Speaker 1: not going to be as invested in the sport if
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Speaker 1: they don't think they have a chance. They're not going
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Speaker 1: to go to the games. They're not going to watch
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Speaker 1: their teams, they're not going to watch other teams play.
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Speaker 1: They're not going to give them the World Series. Look,
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Speaker 1: if the Dodgers are back in it and their team's not.
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Speaker 1: So that's that's the concern that that that the perception
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Speaker 1: that the sport isn't fair amongst the fans is going
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Speaker 1: to cost the product financially and in you know, from
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Speaker 1: a public relations standpoint. So that's what people in baseball
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Speaker 1: are worried about. That's what Rob Manford is worried about.
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Speaker 1: And we're going to see where this the road leads,
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Speaker 1: all right, Coming up next Headlines, we also have Cole
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