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One Piece, 481-483 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  This is an Unspoiled Network podcast This is spoil Me, covering one Piece episodes
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  four eighty one, four eighty two, and four eighty three. Ace rescued
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  Whitebeard's final order, the Power that Can Burn even fire, a Kainu's ruthless
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  pursuit, and then looking for answers firefist, Ace dies on the battlefield.
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  I'm real glad I didn't read the titles to these episodes. Wow, they
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  just tell you, Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone.
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  I am Natasha, Hello, and I'm Flouria. Yay, Florian is here
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  joining me today? Yeah, oh thanks for having me. Got up.
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  Even in the intro, I was like, oh, I have to be
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  quiet, like I thought. I really thought, like i'd like text her,
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  be like, God, do not read the episode titles. But then
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  I was like it would be too suspicious, so I didn't text you.
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  You know, it wouldn't like I encourage you to tell me not to just
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  because sometimes it's not this huge an event, but it still is something that
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  sort of ruins, like a punchline or a reveal, you know, so
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  like being suspicious, don't worry about it, you know, Like I think,
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  go for it, But I am really glad because sometimes I can't help,
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  like I read it before I realize i've read it, you know,
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  just because I'm trying to find my spot where I left off last time,
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  and I'm so glad that I never needed to do that this time. I
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  was like, very sure, number only where I left off, and so
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  I didn't need to read the title and like refresh, you know. I
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  think also having covered an episode earlier this week instead of it being just like
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  last week, so I had just watched and I knew right where I was
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  because of that as well. But I can't believe that they literally just say
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  it, which is just truly beyond I did that, heal. I did
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  tell you in the very first episode where I was also guest. I told
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  you, yeah, there will be spoilers in the title, like Lufy will
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  die, and it was not Lufy I was talking about there. But yeah,
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  yeah, so yeah, first question, Yeah, I don't I don't
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  have to ask this, but yeah, why why did you want to join
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  me today just to mock my pain? Is that why you? Sick?
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  Fucks? All of you exactly? That's why we need a little much more
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  time to talk about this you know, oh my god, So from your
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  reaction, how many what's the percentage like of Ace actually being dead? I'm
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  just going to ask. I'm giving it one hundred percent. I buy that
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  he's dead. If he's not, I'm gonna be pissed. Like I believe
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  that he is, and I don't usually believe it, but it just felt
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  that felt like a real dead scene. It was basically and a death scene
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  that lasted a whole episode. And the other times that I have thought somebody
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  was dead and it turned that they weren't, it was a side character and
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  you don't actually see them expire. You see them like fall or you know,
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  something happens and it's like their eyes go white, but it's a sort
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  of well what does that mean exactly? And this really felt decisive to me,
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  like that that feels like Ace is gone. And I really, you
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  guys, I just edited the episode one before, the one before this one
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  where I said, this is the first time I'm starting to wonder if Lukey's
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  even going to save Ace this time, Like I am beginning to think he
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  might not win, and I have never worried about that before. So of
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  course, when he gets rescued, I thought, we're all good. Of
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  course, what are you are such a dick? I hope you're watching this.
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  I'm going to release to this a lot of times. Yeah, I
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  think. I hope nobody gets mad at me, and I hope you trust
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  me as a co host, like being not my first time here. But
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  yeah, is that he will he will never meet Brook, he will never
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  meet Frankie, he will never set a foot on the sunny. He's gone
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  gone. I can't believe, after all this, this is how he dies.
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  Like it's not even just the fact that they rescued him and he dies
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  after being rescued, which is really mean in and of itself, but it's
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  also it felt like he had a much bigger role to play directly in Lufy's
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  story. And not that this isn't hugely a acting movie story, but it's
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  the you know, the rescue of him is affecting his story. I thought,
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  Ace, I don't think he would join the straw Hats, but I
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  think that I was expecting there to be another plot line that involved him somehow
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  accomplishing a goal on behalf of white Beard or maybe you know, maybe he's
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  the captain. Now look at me, But I just didn't think, after
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  having spent really such a little amount of time with Ace ever, that this
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  would be the end of him already. If it's very sudden, it seems
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  to me, you know, yeah, definitely. I mean, but do
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  you feel like we will see more of him, like in a different way.
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  I was wondering if there was something that he'd been up to and we'll
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  see like flashbacks or something like that, Like maybe because he's clearly been doing
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  shit, you know, like we have kept sort of cutting to him in
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  the midst of battles and confrontations and stuff, and we've hadn't gotten a ton
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  of info about what was going on with all of those, so we may
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  wind up having to sort of piece things together that were happening before. And
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  that's sort of what I'm thinking. But it's just not the same, No,
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  It's just like it maybe even will hurt more depending on what we we'll
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  find out, you know, Jessica says, now you make me sad.
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  I wanted to see how much Loofy and his crew have grown yet, Like
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  you get one moment in these three episodes where he says, Lufy, you've
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  gotten a lot tougher, I think is what he says, like, you
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  know, it's the one moment of acknowledgment, like you've grown up, blow
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  bro, you know, And that's all that we get after everything. And
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  I can't help but be like, is this gonna make Loofy become stronger somehow?
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  Like has Ace been fridged? And I'm not really using that term here
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  because it's not the same obviously, but like, is this loss going to
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  spur him on to do something else bigger and badder eventually? I don't know.
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  I don't Loofy has never experienced a loss like this that I know of,
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  you know, Like, we still don't really know who his mother was,
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  right. We found out what happened with Ace's mother and that she somehow
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  held him in for like a year and a half and then gave birth,
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  but we don't We still haven't got any info in Lufy's mom, right,
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  No, Like, in general, Lufy's past is still somewhat nebulous. We
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  have the paths with Shanks, but honestly, how did he end up there
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  like in this bar kind alone? Yeah, and Garb was somewhat in his
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  past, but also there we have not a lot of details going on,
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  so I can't say that, like, well, Lufy lost his mother because
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  I don't know what happened with his mother. I don't know if he was
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  close to her, ever knew her, if he experienced the loss of her
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  first hand. So like, for the most part, like Lufy's gone through
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  a lot of challenges, but he has almost always come out ahead almost every
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  single time. And to have like technically succeeded here but not when it comes
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  down to I feel like this has to really change who he is. I
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  hope it does. Like it's not like I'm like, let's change Loofy because
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  I don't like him, But I mean this sort of thing as a person,
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  would change you. It's just kind of part of like getting older and
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  realizing that you can do everything right and it still doesn't matter, you know,
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  Like that's a really hard realization that you come to as you get older,
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  because as a kid, you're fed a lot of stories about how,
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  you know, you just have to work hard and you just have to follow
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  the rules and you just have to put your heart and soul into it and
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  you'll always win. And then you finally get to a point where that isn't
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  how it works anymore. And I kind of feel like I don't I wonder
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  how he's gonna fucking see Garp now because Garplake let Lufy land a punch to
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  save Ace. But then this fight, Garb, it felt to me,
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  lets himself get taken down again so that he can't intervene mm hmm. And
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  I don't know. I don't know if Lufy is gonna be able to forgive
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  that or not, like it's going to be able to forgive himself for that
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  or not. Like you know, I don't know, man, is this
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  gonna be a heel turn for Garb? Is he gonna be a pirate?
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  Now? I don't know, Like he's hot none. Nevertheless, well,
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  the thing is, I mean, I get what you mean. But also
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  basically a moment where Garb gets into movement, it's already done, I think,
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  Like it's true. Yeah, so it's kind of like he is not
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  on a prove went in way but on a revenge way. Yeah, Like
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  that's that's what gets him going. And I maybe I've said this before,
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  but I feel just Garb is one of the most interesting characters, you know,
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  because I have seen like a lot of different opinions, Like some people
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  really like him, some people like cannot forgive and cannot forgive him like basically
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  for not stepping up here, you know, and I can see like both
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  sides or like just in general it is like just a messing way, you
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  know. Yeah, yeah, Garb is like I the very reason that I
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  like him, the fact that he seems to really believe in the Marines,
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  is also the reason that I don't like him, because really, you really
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  believe in the Marines, mom, man, get the fuck out of here.
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  Like it's like a guy who's like a good hearted cop. Yeah no,
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  though you're a cop though, and you suck and that's all there is
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  to it. You're part of this bullshit. You know, the bullshit's happening,
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  and you're still part of it. And then you try and act like,
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  oh, all of you pirates are no more or less corrupt than the
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  Marines just when it comes down to it, like they're just not. And
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  So while I admire that he seems to try and like stick to what he
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  believes by not getting involved, I also feel like you have a really silly,
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  childish understanding if you really do believe what you believe, and I can't
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  respect that. So sort of the energy I like but where it's directed.
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  I'm just like, that's not completely headed in the wrong place, you know,
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  mm hmm. Yeah, that's what I was white Beard's final order,
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  because we pick up with uh, I mean, white Beard's in really,
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  really bad shape. He is already in the previous episodes basically been like I
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  may not make it out of this, guys, So if I don't,
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  y'all better throw in behind Loofy. And we pick up with Ace and Loofy
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  like descending like a ball of fire from the heavens onto. I was gonna
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  say the ground. I guess it's the ground of this, you know,
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  it's just talking about this. This place is so strange because it's just it
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  feels like it was really built on a It feels like killer bark, almost
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  like it's a free floating you know what I mean. Yes, no,
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  I get what you mean. I mean, I don't know for sure,
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  but I feel like it's just like it feels like a giant rock and they
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  build onto that rock, you know, like it's not quite floating, but
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  it is definitely not like there's more man made than natural landscaping going on.
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  Definitely. Yeah. But I actually one time I just a little side thing.
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  You, what is the biggest place that you have ever been to,
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  like man made place? And I don't speak about height, I mean,
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  like really the area right well in Texas, I live right near Lake Texoma,
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  which is the largest man made lake in the United States, So probably
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  that counts, but it's like a weird one because I've only been to like
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  the shoreline of one section of it, you know what I mean. Otherwise
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  it would probably have to be the arena where I saw Beyonce perform. That
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  was huge. I have never been in a building that size that could hold
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  that many people, because it was a sold out show and I think it
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  was like eighty one thousand people. It was slow beyond when Rashan and I
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  stepped out and saw, because like we were in the nosebleeds, like as
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  far away from the stage as as possible to get, and it was this
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  very steep seating so that your feet were behind the head of the person sitting
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  in front of you, So the stairs were very, very steep, and
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  something about that made it all the more visible, just the space because you
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  there wasn't that sort of flat line of seats extending forward. It was like
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  you were standing on the edge of a cliff looking out and yeah, so
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  that was probably the biggest building I've been in. What about you? Yeah,
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  well, first of all, I just asked because like a few episodes
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  ago ago, you said like you have like no like really sense of space
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  sometimes in this art, you know, and and there are like so many
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  people and you're like like I don't know, somebody like white Beard attacks and
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  it seems like half the people should go flying, but then there are more
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  others there. I had to drink off. It's just I have to be
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  in two places well actually almost free that have this feeling here in Europe are
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  like some castles like the Versailles in France, France in like where near Paris,
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  and you will not believe, like when you walk there, it is
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  just huge mangers like really the space like just it is insanity, like you
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  cannot like I cannot really tell you because I have been to concerts, like
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  you know, like outdoor concerts like that were huge and you could have like
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  fit three of those just in the plaza alone. It is huge. The
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  same in Austria, like in Vienna, there have also like a huge enormous
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  thing and the other one is a setter one. It's like I was one
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  times at the concentration camp in Germany, and that is like when you walk
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  out there and you just see all these area, just all the space,
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  and you know this was filled with people, you know, like yeah,
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  you see pictures where they're all cramped there, and it's like this is insanity,
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  Like this is huge here, and so like we humans can make like
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  big areas like where it's just like concrete or like rubble off the ground,
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  like we can do that. Yeah, it is kind of humbling to see
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  at times. That's right, Like I'm going to try and keep in mind
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  the the arena that I saw her in because when put in that context,
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  yeah, you could send like dozens of people flying every five minutes and you
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  wouldn't get through half of the people there, Like that would be very easy
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  to do. So thank you that helps. Actually, Yeah, yeah,
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  sometimes big numbers are like difficult to imagine it really, yeah, it really
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  is. You need some contexts somehow. Yeah, and they they fall down
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  and they're trying to take aim at them while they're falling, and it's just
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  so like it's so sad. It's just dispatches. This whole group almost with
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  no effort. It feels like to me, I couldn't help laughing though,
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  because like he lands on his feet and movie lands on his feet, and
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  then mister three is just like crumpled up in the back with his legs in
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  the air and his glasses fall off, and I'm just like real sad,
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  like he did is he did, he was clutch You know, we wouldn't
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  be here without mister three. And I do enjoy the fact that he has
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  turned out to be like really instrumental considering how much I hated him. I
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  really hated him so much, that's the word to say, like the first
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  time, like the first time meeting him, really disliked him, and it
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  kind of pains me to say. I think, like I talked about this
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  the last time at Imple down where I was around, I do like him.
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  Like he's like really rushing in a way. It's just like, Okay,
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  you have been clutched like several times now, so yeah, okay,
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  you can stay. I think like this is like when we get like some
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  cool fight scene with Louvie and Ace being side by side. Yeah, just
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  fucking shit up essentially, Yeah, basically, and you know everybody is like
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  all right, well, we're gonna try and hit Ace, but don't forget
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  that he is a logier type, which basically means his body is fire,
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  and so he's going to be very difficult to hit. And I did kind
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  of think to myself, it feels like a losing strategy to even try and
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  hit him at this point, Like, why is that the method that you
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  would go with? I am curious and I don't know if this is anything.
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  But like when you're dealing with crocodile and you get water on him,
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  that sucks up with his power, right, does that happen with Ace?
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  If you get water on him, with him being like fire made of fire,
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  does that do anything to like dampen pun intended his abilities. That's a
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  good question. I would guess, yes, I would think so right,
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  Yeah, but maybe not as effective I guess against crocodile. But I don't
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  know for sure, because the thing is with water, when it comes right
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  down to it, it is actually the weakness of all the devil fruits,
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  you know, And yeah, true so, but particular for crocodile, but
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  maybe also particular for Ace. So's I was just thinking that maybe they should
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  just get some fire hoses instead of guns, and that might actually be a
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  better bet. Like it also may not work, but I feel like I
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  would be more confident in that than I would regular guns considering and like,
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  they try and fire it and it goes like worse than they even could have
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  expected. Because first of all, let's just talk about the fact that these
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  guys are gathered around, these dudes in a circle and fire, which is
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  already What are you doing, dudes, You're basically firing at your own guys
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  across the circle from you, which is already just there. But then it
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  doesn't hit Ace and Loofy with his like weird boing powers, catches all of
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  the bullets and shoots them back at them. And you again, should have
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  seen that coming. Guys, You've seen him do this a few times.
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  How are you still being caught off guard by this? You have to find
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  a new way to handle some of these dudes. The Marines are not flexible,
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  they don't adapt. No, they's just following oders. I guess,
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  I guess it's weak. Jessica says, the water might evaporate before hitting him.
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  That's possible. I just want to see, you know, I'm just
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  curious, Like maybe there's only so much water he could evaporate and then it
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  would be it would get through. Maybe there's like a sheer amount that would
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  wind up being effective, but anything less than that wouldn't. I don't know.
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  I'm just curious. But now we'll never know, will wait? So
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  well, oh no, I'm just going to ask this because we're on the
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  topic, Well will we never know? Like do you feel like that's totally
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  a guess? But do the devil fruits reappear? Because there we have only
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  ever seen like one kind of devil fruit, you know, like only one
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  gugung fruit one like I don't know, firefruit, you know, at the
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  time. But once this he dies, does this devil fruit like reappear somehow
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  or is it just like once in yons or I don't know. I don't
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  know. I don't really get the way that devil fruit work anyway, Like
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  we have been given so little information about that we have and it was his
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  like the firefire fruit. Yeah, I feel like it's the flare flare.
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  I feel like it's I feel like because the thing that I keep sort of
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  getting hung up on with devil fruits is like where do they appear? And
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  because each of the fruits does a different thing. The fruits each look slightly
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  different, right, Yeah, But do the trees that the fruits grow on
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  look different from each other? Or does the same looking tree produce different looking
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  fruits? And does it produce more than one fruit? Can you basically like
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  grow a devil fruit tree by planting a devil fruit and then get more devil
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  fruits from that like an animal crossing? Yes, exactly, Yes, thank
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  you. Now we're speaking a language I understand perfect right, We I mean
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  this. You guess as good as any I would say at this point,
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  because we really have not gotten any real informations about the But I just was
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  curious what you're thinking about that. I feel like it would if another fruit
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  like his were to reappear, that would indicate a sentience I was never expecting
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  from the devil fruits. That would be like how I'm operating right now is
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  that devil fruits are basically still sort of like a biological phenomenon, even though
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  what they amount to is magic. It feels like, oh, but there's
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  like a pseudoscience kind of thing back behind it. But if a new fruit
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  appears just because he has died, that is straight up magic. That's going
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  to change how I see them, you know what I mean. So,
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  and that's not a bad thing. It's just like going to be a different
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  a different way of thinking about them. I just really it's kind of wild
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  how deep we are into this so far and we still don't have any info
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  on devil fruits, and I feel nobody is really asking about them, Like
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  I'm so sorry, But if you lived in a world where these existed,
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  wouldn't you be absolutely fucking obsessed with them? Wouldn't you want to know everything?
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  Wouldn't you just be like, I mean, how are there more folks
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  just clamoring to understand them and find more of them? It just feels so
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  it's not like devil fruits aren't highly prized, because they are, but because
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  they're so highly prized, you would think that people would be out there seeking
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  them in a much more organized and specific way. And we haven't seen any
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  of that. And that's not to say it's not happening, but it isn't
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  at all, Like at the forefront of the story, And really, when
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  it comes down to it, fuck a one piece, where's the devil fruits?
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  Get me the Oh? That would be much more what I'm like,
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  money, sure, but if you've got these kinds of powers, it feels
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  like you can just then get money somehow because you have these powers. Like
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  that's you know, it just feels sort of like you're really focusing on a
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  sort of mundane treasure and these powers are way more dope than like a pile
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  of gold. I would just think, you know, yeah, well,
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  just putting that out there. We don't really know what the warm piece is
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  so true. Who knows. Maybe maybe it's all the devil fruits maybe,
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  or like the devil for Island. Yeah, like one island where they all
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  grow and they just fall from the tea trees into the water and then get
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  out into the world somehow. Yeah, who knows, but it's a possibility.
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  Or maybe somebody is manufacturing them and they're not naturally accuring at all.
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  Ah, maybe it's but you are just like the one piece. Oh my
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  god. Bath bombs like like elaborate breath bombs, like blood bombs. You
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  drop them into your blood and they do they make you fizzy, turn you
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  into fire. Okay, okay, so yeah, lots and lots and lots
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  of fighting here. I love Ace's fire gun. I don't know why,
• 30:40
  but the fact that it's you basically just do the motion for finger guns that
• 30:47
  you do when you're just like hey, like that really cracks me up.
• 30:51
  It's very very funny to me. And I just want to mention, like,
• 30:57
  you know, as this fire firefight, I didn't mean food that to
• 31:03
  be the thing, but yes, as this is happening, there isn't even
• 31:08
  an inkling for me that Ace isn't making it out of this. Like this
• 31:12
  is fully feeling like we are reaching the end of this arc and Ace is
• 31:22
  on his way to escaping and now we're gonna be doing a whole thing with
• 31:27
  him. Like the whole energy of this feels like we're winding down. Now
• 31:33
  that he's out, he's getting to let loose and get a little bit of
• 31:38
  revenge. I don't want to call it that because I don't feel like he
• 31:41
  sees it that way, but you know, he's just getting to let loose
• 31:45
  finally after being in prison like he was, and I just never ever thought.
• 31:55
  So we have like the flashback of him and Loofy baby Lou in his
• 32:00
  tiny baby hat, his sequins like they are running and you see their shadows.
• 32:07
  It's and then it turns to the present and it's just symbolism. I
• 32:14
  just know it. Yeah, and his brother that you've gotten pretty tough.
• 32:22
  Yeah, and uh, Lufy just he doesn't really respond. He just is
• 32:25
  like thanks, you know, because the two of them fighting together, it's
• 32:31
  clear like Ace has always been the strength between the two of them. Lufy's
• 32:37
  been fighting to catch up for a long time. It feels like, yeah,
• 32:43
  and I find it interesting. Well, I was thinking, like,
• 32:45
  do you did do anything suspect going into these episodes, like knowing that it's
• 32:52
  going to be a wannabe or like when you already said I really thought it
• 32:59
  was going to be the death of somebody like Garb or or even white Beard
• 33:06
  or you know, like a side guy, which still would have been sad,
• 33:12
  like it would have felt that like it would have felt warranted to have
• 33:19
  a wannabe to talk about that, because they Garb dying would be a big
• 33:22
  deal, you know. But yeah, I just didn't think it was gonna
• 33:27
  be Ace himself like that just that just would feel too mean spirited to me.
• 33:35
  Yeah, I know, when I rewroted this episode, it was like,
• 33:38
  oh, it actually like if you like the first one or like the
• 33:42
  first and half one. It actually could feel like that white Beard is going
• 33:49
  to die because he does say like like he sends his people on basically and
• 33:53
  yeah, or wants to make like a last grand stand and granted he is
• 33:58
  or like he's still doing that when at the end, but yeah, you
• 34:00
  know it is That's actually what I was first thinking seeing is like, oh,
• 34:07
  he's gonna die and then all of us up. No, it's it's
• 34:10
  that I was like, what the fuck. Yeah, it's a real sense
• 34:15
  of like the potential of his I mean, he's straight up says that he
• 34:23
  has sort of accepted that he may die here, you know, So it
• 34:28
  just felt like that was being projected and I'm sure that's on purpose, but
• 34:31
  yeah, rude, can you call this a red herring? I don't know,
• 34:38
  Yeah, yeah, I think so. Or misdirect I guess, yeahs
• 34:45
  direct? Yeah yeah. So what's the name of ice Sky is that?
• 34:52
  You know? You know, it's the love of Okay, he's the one
• 35:01
  that actually kills Ace so akg shows up and he does pheasant beak, which
• 35:12
  I have to say is one of the weaker sounding attacks, Like it is
• 35:15
  dope looking, and they clearly are very effective against one another, but it
• 35:23
  just sounds like pheasant beak, Like you couldn't pick any other bird that looks
• 35:30
  a little bit more threatening. A pheasant is like a very pudgy, edible
• 35:37
  bird. It just doesn't hit you know. That's like being like hen's tooth,
• 35:43
  Like I don't know, I don't feel it. I want even if
• 35:47
  you did, something like a griffin or an eagle would be very easy.
• 35:52
  Falcon falcon, I think would be dope, you know, but it looks
• 35:59
  impressive, it's very cool, But I just feel like that name needs some
• 36:02
  workshopping. That's all absolutely it is. I mean, I'm just gonna say
• 36:08
  it is like he's epithet or like part of his like he's called like the
• 36:15
  blue pheasant. Apparently. Yeah, it's not a it's not really good.
• 36:22
  It is like I'm trying to think of like a bird that you associate with
• 36:27
  ice, and I'll like come up with his penguin, which isn't actually that
• 36:30
  much better. So no, I don't know. Yeah, and yeah,
• 36:37
  but that kind of suits him because he is like I mean, like I
• 36:39
  can see like an igleo on hawk, but that would be like almost too
• 36:44
  aggressive or like before for his character, you know, like he's mentality basically,
• 36:51
  Yeah, I agree with that. So let's let's do a little detour
• 36:58
  here and talk about Buggy. Oh yeah, Buggy is out here just hovering
• 37:07
  on the sidelines and waiting for everybody to sort of finish each other off or
• 37:14
  like get to the end stage when then he can step in and sort of
• 37:19
  take credit right for like taking one or more of these people down. And
• 37:28
  they still have the poor little transponder snail and this thing. I love it.
• 37:37
  It turns out like Buggy is glad that it's not transmitting because he doesn't
• 37:44
  want people like seeing that he's not doing anything right now and not participating.
• 37:49
  But when they're trying to get the snail to work and they're like yelling at
• 37:52
  it, it's you go inside it shell where it's hiding, and you see
• 37:59
  its face. It's reacting to them talking about putting it back in like the
• 38:02
  salt water and stuff. And then but oh my god, I almost said
• 38:09
  Buffy. Buggy says something about how like, guys, you're being really unsympathetic
• 38:16
  and this this snail is just trying to do its job. It doesn't even
• 38:21
  want to be here, probably reporting on everything that's happening is very traumatic and
• 38:27
  you need to have a little bit more compassion. And the snail, which
• 38:31
  he's like trying to make excuses so that they don't film anymore. The snail
• 38:37
  hears him and is like, oh my god. It gets all like teary
• 38:42
  eyed and then comes back out of his shell, which Buggy does not want
• 38:46
  because it feels so grateful that Buggy has been so considerate of it, which
• 38:52
  I feel like is one of my favorite jokes they have ever done. I
• 38:55
  don't know why, but this is just like, it's just the that,
• 39:00
  like this, this, the snails are so inconsequential. They're they're just around
• 39:07
  and they don't even feel like living things most of the time, even though
• 39:10
  they are. Yeah, and so it's just very unexpected that like this snail's
• 39:17
  personality and it's its needs would play such like a key role in this because
• 39:22
  then it decides that it is going to film Buggy and let me tell you,
• 39:27
  guys, it is underwhelming. Buddy has nothing to say. He keeps
• 39:34
  repeating that he's just a legend. At one point, they use a filter
• 39:38
  that makes him look wacky. I'm very happy about it. I feel like
• 39:45
  this do they say they use a filter or like it says, yeah,
• 39:49
  I use that filter in the dub. I don't know if it's a sub
• 39:52
  that's what they say. I probably, but I just in my mind it
• 39:57
  was not a filter. It was just like Bucky using his powers and I
• 40:00
  kind of you know, he can chop himself up, so he kind of
• 40:04
  chopped himself up and then like reformed like he's outsides, so he would look
• 40:09
  like pixelated. I don't know, my god, but that's what I mentioned
• 40:15
  there and the dub he's like, yeah, yeah, use that filter that
• 40:19
  looks flashy, that's what he says. Okay then, but yeah, everybody
• 40:28
  who's like watching this is like, what we don't care about Buggy, what's
• 40:34
  happening with the prisoner? What's let us see what's going on? And uh,
• 40:40
  it's weird because like he wants he says, he wants to get on
• 40:45
  camera to show off initially, but he he doesn't want to actually get involved
• 40:52
  because he feels so like outmatched by everybody here. So I don't know why
• 40:58
  you wouldn't just direct the camera to what everybody else is up to just to
• 41:01
  like get the focus off you if you do feel like you can't measure up.
• 41:07
  Don't stand in front of the camera and make it super obvious that you're
• 41:10
  not involved in the fighting at all, you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 41:15
  not fake it till you make it. There's that as well. Yeah,
• 41:23
  I just really like the whole sequence though, Yeah, no, it
• 41:27
  is. It is funny, like Buggy is kind of I mean, he
• 41:31
  was already imput down the parts of comedic relief, but it's just done so
• 41:37
  well. So I'm not mad at it, Like it's just so, you
• 41:40
  know, like that's how you do it. You know. Yes, I
• 41:46
  think one thing that we were not skipto ward. But I don't want to
• 41:54
  talk too much about this character. But Squat I hate his name. I
• 42:00
  hate his name. We don't have to talk a lot about him. But
• 42:06
  he just shows up on the ship on a like suicide mission and white Beard
• 42:12
  is like, Mmm, your stupid bitch, Yeah, what are you doing?
• 42:20
  No this dude, sit your ass down. I can't believe how after
• 42:29
  everything, it's like he's still correct me if I'm wrong. But it seems
• 42:36
  like he thinks since I broke trust with white Beard, now I have to
• 42:42
  stick to it. Which why like he's clearly willing to forgive you. It
• 42:50
  feels like to me, I don't know if it's supposed to be the scuore
• 42:52
  just has so much pride that he won't accept that, or if I'm misunderst
• 43:00
  the situation. I mean the situation is that Squad was wanting to sacrifice himself
• 43:07
  for white Beard and like for the rest of the crew. Okay, because
• 43:13
  just because then like at one point, why You're saying, don't you know
• 43:16
  what it's like to have to kill one of your own sons? Like how
• 43:22
  dare you? And I was sort of like, wait, what, No,
• 43:25
  he I think what he says is like putting one of your sons,
• 43:31
  like basically being at the funeral, which I get what you mean with like
• 43:37
  it sounds like he is going make the funeral happen, but no, it's
• 43:42
  like it is meant more like you are killing yourself in front of me,
• 43:46
  you know, like how devastated that makes me feel, like seeing you die
• 43:52
  because of me, Like for me, Yeah, that's what makes white Beard
• 43:57
  upset because he doesn't want any of his boys to die. He just doesn't
• 44:00
  want even though I Squirt can die if you ask me, because because I'm
• 44:07
  sorry, like you stepped this man, and yeah, he basically forgave you.
• 44:14
  And I don't know, like this feels like really self centric, you
• 44:16
  know, like still really egotistical. Is that the word? Like basically I
• 44:22
  have to make things right and sacrifice myself. Oh sorry, that was my
• 44:25
  chair. I don't know if you heard that. Fine, I have also
• 44:30
  got a very noisy chair. And yeah, I was just like like,
• 44:35
  basically, get over yourself, like you're not that important, Like yeah,
• 44:40
  but yeah, there's just something about like the fact that this is even going
• 44:45
  on still that I was like, so your part and this feels over.
• 44:47
  Can you just let it go? And it's not about you anymore? Like
• 44:52
  absolutely re cares. But I feel like, I mean probably like from a
• 44:57
  story writing perspect if, this is included to really give more to white Beard
• 45:06
  as well, Like basically this is after this is like the moment where he's
• 45:10
  like sending them all like it's like giving his speech that he will stay behind
• 45:16
  and they shall move on. I I guess that was like the trigger for
• 45:23
  that. Yeah. I think you're right. It's just also to emphasize like
• 45:30
  what a good guy he is and that he's you know, still cut up
• 45:37
  at the idea of losing this guy even though he betrayed you. We actually
• 45:44
  I wonder if you caught that, but we do see white Beard as a
• 45:49
  young white Beard in I think the second episode, Yes they did, did
• 45:54
  you catch that? Okay? Good because basically this see that sinoir that they
• 46:00
  got a lot of treasure, like apparently he's crudd like he did not have
• 46:05
  his own crew, it seemed like, and he is not interested in the
• 46:08
  treasure. And they ask him, well, why are you a pirate then?
• 46:15
  And we do as the audience, do not get the answer. Do
• 46:20
  you have any He's just like gaazing out at the at the ocean thoughtfully,
• 46:24
  do you have any idea what the answer would be or could be? I
• 46:30
  don't know, because what it feels like to me is that this dude deciding
• 46:39
  like I'm gonna call everybody my son, is trying to fill a hole in
• 46:45
  his life, you know. And I don't know if he actually lost a
• 46:51
  son or maybe a whole family and he's decided like I'm gonna make a family
• 46:55
  or I'm gonna maybe he was abandoned and he was like, I'm gonna be
• 47:01
  the father that I wish I had, you know, on behalf of other
• 47:07
  people, But it definitely feels like the way he operates presently is definitely coming
• 47:16
  from some place like very very personal, because that kind of commitment to it,
• 47:21
  where you're even willing to forgive somebody who literally just stabbed you in the
• 47:24
  heart or tried to like that is that's coming from a really deep well of
• 47:31
  emotion. And yeah, if he's not worried about the treasure, like the
• 47:38
  treasure was the friends we made along the way, That's what it seems like
• 47:44
  to me. And I do think it's funny that, like everybody is just
• 47:49
  so puzzled by him one of them. I can't. I'm so sorry you
• 47:52
  guys. I know this is really really imature, but anytime somebody is like,
• 47:55
  how can you not care about the booty? I can't help but snicker
• 48:00
  to myself a little bit. There's just that's funny. I'm so sorry.
• 48:07
  Yeah said to that, just a little little shout out to I think the
• 48:12
  last episode where it was like bossing you foolish misshaped manchild, that was such
• 48:21
  a you said it, and I just that's just a great line, Like,
• 48:25
  yeah, I listened to these episodes also, like the once before that
• 48:30
  I was like, that's a great line. And then I listened to your
• 48:32
  podcast and it's like that's a great line, and like, yeah, I
• 48:37
  literally like, Unfortunately, because of the way that the protections work for Hulu,
• 48:42
  if you try and screenshot something, you only get the subtitle and the
• 48:45
  whole screen is black. They don't like screenshot the actual image. I don't
• 48:50
  know if it would work if I tried to use like funimation or something.
• 48:53
  But I tried to screenshot it and it was only the subtitle that came up,
• 48:59
  and I was like, I don't care, and I sent it to
• 49:00
  Canvas anyway, and I was like, new insult, just shrupped your foolish
• 49:05
  misshapen manchild is going into the arsenal. That's that on that. Yeah,
• 49:12
  absolutely. I feel like this is a moment where then everybody is like,
• 49:22
  no, we cannot leave you behind. White Beer have father, and I
• 49:29
  feel like we get a moment where Ace is looking back and shooting some fire,
• 49:36
  not at white Beard, but like I think, at some marines around
• 49:38
  him, and I feel like then we get like this really cool sequence the
• 49:43
  two of them like surrounded by flames, and the flames like turning blue or
• 49:49
  bluish. I feel like, yeah, this is also when like okay,
• 49:55
  you know, sort of steps forward and starts to get involved in things just
• 50:00
  like he is just sort of this guy. This guy took me by surprise
• 50:07
  because like we haven't seen him before, have we, Like like I'm sure
• 50:15
  we have seen him like at meetings that sort of thing, but we haven't
• 50:19
  seen him fighting, have we? We have not seen him fighting. But
• 50:25
  I'm gonna tell you a little bit something about Okay, way back and on
• 50:32
  O'Hara, which is the island Robbing grew up on, and I feel like
• 50:39
  you will remember what happened to that island. It got blessed to bits by
• 50:45
  the Marines, and there was an equation evacuationship creation, evacuations, evacuation,
• 50:57
  yes, evacuation okay, good, where like the citizens of this island were
• 51:04
  on you know, right, And one of the vice admirals was like,
• 51:10
  no, we have like nobody can leave, and we shoot his materfac town.
• 51:15
  And Robin stands on the island and sees like her like everybody that she
• 51:22
  knows, not everybody, but just like people from the island like basically all
• 51:25
  on that one chip dying. That vice admiral was okay, you know that's
• 51:32
  him. Oh okay, So basically he was he ancient now and he wasn't
• 51:40
  ship dead, you know, he's just that's how he rolls. So that's
• 51:46
  something that that's something you real on a rewatch or re read, you will
• 51:53
  come across that it's like, oh, that's that guy. Oh yeah,
• 51:57
  no, I already didn't like you, and now I yeah, yeah.
• 52:02
  And he like the fact that he is the one that takes Ace down because
• 52:07
  he just hasn't been. I would have expected it to be somebody that we
• 52:15
  personally have dealt with before, like AOPG, you know, like someone that
• 52:22
  we have had firsthand experience with running into the crew and having to deal with
• 52:30
  them, and so the threat of that person and the abilities that they have
• 52:35
  would become really established in our minds, and when they took Ace down,
• 52:45
  it would feel like, okay, well, this person was brought into the
• 52:47
  story so that we would like get a chance to get to know who they
• 52:52
  are and what they're capable of, and that way when we eventually reached this
• 52:54
  point. But it's it's really surprising to me that he is the one who
• 53:04
  actually kills Ace, because I felt like he has not felt like a huge
• 53:12
  presence at all, even in this fight, like he has done some dope
• 53:16
  shit with his wild like fist comments. I don't know what else to call
• 53:22
  those, So don't get me wrong, Like it's not like he isn't active,
• 53:28
  but this is really the first time I've ever seen him doing anything is
• 53:34
  this arc. So for him to be the one that's responsible for taking Ace
• 53:37
  down, I just wouldn't have expected it to be somebody that we've only kind
• 53:42
  of just met in the you know, yeah, relatively speaking, just met,
• 53:47
  even though we've been on this arc for like months at this point,
• 53:51
  but it is still quite recent. So yes, yes, definitely, I
• 53:57
  don't in a way that makes it. It makes it I feel like more
• 54:01
  disrespectful, like kind of like yeah, which I mean maybe also makes sense,
• 54:08
  like like that's maybe what Odor wanted us to feel. Sorry, And
• 54:17
  just in general, I'm I mean, we are not fully like in the
• 54:23
  episode count, we are not halfway there, but this whole happening here,
• 54:32
  like this whole war going on, and I mean there are like a lot
• 54:37
  of big players here. You know, this is like a for considered for
• 54:43
  a lot of people, Like the unofficial halfway point of the story, you
• 54:46
  know, like okay, because it is so much going on and something really
• 54:52
  hugely happens is dying, which, by the way, I'm so happy that
• 54:58
  you didn't get spoiled on. Like literally, anybody who starts this series,
• 55:04
  if they get spoiled on anything, it's this. It's like that Ace dies,
• 55:07
  like oh wow, yeah, no, that sucks. Mm hmm,
• 55:15
  yeah, I mean I guess that's like when I found out where Sean didn't
• 55:17
  know that Snake kills Dumbledore spoilers everybody, but like, yeah, that's the
• 55:22
  thing that you would think everybody knows at least about Harry Potter. Mm hmm,
• 55:29
  No, that's that's I don't know, you know, it is kind
• 55:35
  of I mean, it's really cruel because it is like the joke of like
• 55:38
  in One Piece, nobody dies except Ace, So like that is like a
• 55:45
  joke that a need that floats around in the Internet, in the Roe Piece
• 55:50
  community and just in general a lot. Like you you can come across that
• 55:54
  a lot, and it is so spoilery. But yeah, yeah, I
• 56:00
  mean that's the best memes though, are the ones that have like a really
• 56:02
  massive spoiler in them. Usually, Yeah, that's that's like by the way.
• 56:06
  Yeah. I really try and avoid spaces that I think would have spoilers
• 56:09
  though, because people are very fast and loose with one piece info and imagery,
• 56:15
  you know, especially so absolutely. I mean it is also like a
• 56:20
  really visual medium, you know, like it was from the beginning, like
• 56:22
  even just taking the manga. Yeah, super visual. Yeah, And I
• 56:30
  feel like, is this when he starts to go to them, is this
• 56:37
  how you say that? So sorry, just again in the chats, I
• 56:43
  didn't know about Dumbledore think I don't plan on reading soon, sorry about it,
• 56:47
  but Harry Potter is by a monster, so don't read it. But
• 56:54
  sorry, Yeah, so I just got I'm like just scrolling through real quick.
• 57:00
  I'm still in the first episode in terms of like just wanting to touch
• 57:04
  on some of the characters, and the part where white Beard says, you
• 57:07
  don't you know what it's like to force a father to bury his own son.
• 57:10
  So that's the way that line went, and that's why I like,
• 57:13
  I definitely took that the wrong way. Okay, I can see that definitely
• 57:17
  the way that you took it, But I don't feel like that's at all
• 57:21
  what this meant to you. No, Yeah, once you say once you
• 57:23
  explain. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, now I get it.
• 57:29
  Oh my god, Emperor Josu, is this the guy that gets like
• 57:32
  frozen? M h. I really didn't think a diamond could freeze. I
• 57:40
  thought it would kind of be impervious to that happening, you know, but
• 57:51
  let's see, Oh yeah's Lufy is arguing with with Ace about leaving because white
• 57:58
  Beard is beset on all sides and his plan obviously is basically to just like
• 58:06
  give Ace a chance to take off, and Ace isn't willing to, Like
• 58:15
  this guy put his entire crew and all these other crews on the line to
• 58:21
  save his ass, and no, he is not just going to like repay
• 58:24
  this dude by fucking bouncing, which I do respect, Like I couldn't do
• 58:30
  that either, you know, after everything, Just I don't care if you
• 58:36
  tell me it's okay, and you're like, that's the the whole reason I
• 58:38
  did this, and you can't throw your life away. I just don't think
• 58:42
  I could live with myself walking away while this person is about to be murdered
• 58:50
  by a bunch of fucking underlings too, Like he's not even at this point,
• 58:53
  white Beard isn't up against any big dude. He's just surrounded by regular
• 58:58
  marines, which is just again, no, not happening. That said,
• 59:07
  though, he does decide to really throw his life away in the end for
• 59:17
  reasons that I think are silly as shit. Yeah, Like it's one thing
• 59:27
  to be like, I'm I can't just let you be thrown into the meat
• 59:31
  grinder, but y'all are getting away, and then it's just okay to being
• 59:38
  like, you know, he ain't shit anyway. He's a fucking failure and
• 59:42
  embarrassing and that's what Ace can't let go of. Like, what are you
• 59:50
  What are you thinking? My guy? Literally, what do you believe is
• 59:54
  happening here? Because it is so obvious you are being baited like a fucking
• 1:00:00
  fifth grader and falling for it like you're on a playground. A child would
• 1:00:07
  see through this. What are you doing? And this is the thing that
• 1:00:13
  I always run up against with this show is that people do things for the
• 1:00:17
  sake of the principle, when, in my opinion, in that moment,
• 1:00:22
  the principle is so utterly irrelevant that it isn't it Like to me, it
• 1:00:28
  isn't even the principle anymore, you know, Like this is like Nami's mom
• 1:00:34
  being like, no, she is my child, and I'm just like,
• 1:00:36
  yeah, but now she doesn't have a mom because you couldn't just shut up.
• 1:00:42
  And I know that it's like, oh, the honor of not denying
• 1:00:45
  your child, but I'm sorry, that was the wrong decision and you were
• 1:00:47
  a fool for it and that was like actually kind of shitty and selfish and
• 1:00:53
  it's supposed to be this like honorable death and I'm just like, no,
• 1:00:57
  sorry, it's not. You were stupid. You get And there is a
• 1:01:01
  big part of me here with Ace that is just like, dude, not
• 1:01:06
  only is this dude bating you, but the whole identity of this man is
• 1:01:12
  that he works for the Marines and believes in what they do, which is
• 1:01:16
  of course that he would think somebody like white Beard is a pointless piece of
• 1:01:22
  shit. You aren't changing this man's entire outlook on life and just saying to
• 1:01:29
  him take it back or else, I come the look on, come on,
• 1:01:39
  let's be fucking for real. That is very very unseerious of you,
• 1:01:46
  Ace, Like I don't even know how you can say you value your own
• 1:01:51
  life at this point. If this is the kind of thing that makes you
• 1:01:53
  they're about to cut your head off, and you were like, well,
• 1:01:57
  you know, I guess this is what happened. And then here they've gone
• 1:02:00
  through all of this to save you and they're telling you to let it go,
• 1:02:07
  and now you won't. Shitty, shitty, Ace. That sucks.
• 1:02:15
  That was a bad move and it was selfish and it sucks. I'm mad
• 1:02:19
  at you over it. I'm not trying to say he's deserved to die.
• 1:02:24
  I'm just saying maybe a little bit he did, like thirty maybe a Yeah,
• 1:02:34
  I'm right there with you. You, I'm gonna I'm looking forward to
• 1:02:44
  hearing what you have to say about that in the future as well. I
• 1:02:51
  cannot say anything different. It is just interesting, arn't Yeah, we will
• 1:02:55
  maybe see a little bit more of his his past and maybe how he came
• 1:03:01
  to be such a easy manipulated maybe in a way, but in the end,
• 1:03:09
  it still is not a good look. Like, no matter what explanation
• 1:03:15
  you might find out or will it be given, bottom line, bottom line,
• 1:03:19
  it's not great. Yeah, it's just he But you also have to
• 1:03:27
  think, I always forgive, forget this. Ace is nineteen, he's nineteen,
• 1:03:35
  he's a child. Because what I think even even said this actually got
• 1:03:42
  me laughing a little bit because he was just like, all of you guys
• 1:03:45
  talk about how great white Beard is and you even call him Pops, but
• 1:03:52
  look at what's about to happen to him. He even got stabbed in the
• 1:03:55
  back by one of his own sons because he took my word over his.
• 1:04:02
  And I was like, oh, that's just factual. Though. It's like,
• 1:04:09
  I get that you're mad at what this guy is insinuating, but that
• 1:04:12
  is actual factuals like, and maybe that doesn't actually reflect on white Beard and
• 1:04:16
  it really is reflecting on fucking squad. Thank you. I'm just never gonna
• 1:04:26
  names and names with Q are just strange, aren't they? Like I don't
• 1:04:30
  know a lot of them, Like the it's Shrek not Shrek, but lord
• 1:04:35
  funk rot like fark on, yeah, that the other one is just like
• 1:04:44
  no, we just should Q is not supposed to be in a name.
• 1:04:49
  Q is a weird letter. Overall. Absolutely, there was there was,
• 1:04:59
  you know, I can't get into that. There was there was something the
• 1:05:00
  other day where somebody was I feel like it was uh one of the have
• 1:05:08
  you watched True Blood? No, okay, no, it's fine, it's
• 1:05:15
  uh the guy who plays Eric in that was like on the Colbert Show,
• 1:05:24
  the Late Night Show, trying to teach him how to say something in Dutch
• 1:05:29
  and the like twisting of the sound of the letters. I was just like,
• 1:05:34
  it sounds like there should be a que or something in there, but
• 1:05:39
  according to the subtitles where it's spelled out, that is not it. And
• 1:05:42
  I'm just looking at it, like, man, we just kind of make
• 1:05:44
  letters do whatever. Like we act like, well, we all have the
• 1:05:47
  same alphabet, we're functioning with the same sounds, but are like letters mean
• 1:05:51
  totally different things then, you know, or you just be a little like
• 1:05:57
  till day on it ornom laud and that like changes everything. Yeah, a
• 1:06:01
  little tidbit which I always found interesting, like E, the letter E in
• 1:06:08
  English is in German, E means I like the letter I, right,
• 1:06:15
  okay, so it's like not even switched because E becomes E. So it's
• 1:06:23
  E and E for E and I. Yes, I believe you, but
• 1:06:30
  that definitely just you saying it right there was difficult for me to follow.
• 1:06:36
  Yeah, no, no, it is just as you said, like it's
• 1:06:40
  the same letter but just the different language. And we already pronounce it differently,
• 1:06:44
  so I totally agree with what you're saying. Jessica says a lot of
• 1:06:50
  people have a similar reaction to Ace getting baited. I don't get angry,
• 1:06:55
  but on reread, I know what is coming and had time to think about
• 1:06:57
  it. Yeah, and it's like I get that sort of This is how
• 1:07:04
  the show tends to function, where people will do things because there is just
• 1:07:11
  like some central tenet of their personality that has to be consistent right up until
• 1:07:17
  their death. Like you need to show us that this is who this person
• 1:07:23
  is. And we all have like a character trait that could be our downfall
• 1:07:29
  if somebody really pressed us on it, which I actually kind of like that
• 1:07:33
  idea. But it's just when it's when that central character trait happens to be
• 1:07:40
  something like this, where it's like you get played really easily. It's very
• 1:07:45
  frustrating to watch. At the same time, though, as somebody who has
• 1:07:51
  like a really predictable reaction to being told what to do, which is to
• 1:07:58
  them not want to do the thing though I know it's good for me or
• 1:08:01
  recommended by professionals or just gonna make my life better. If I were in
• 1:08:09
  this show, I would die because somebody told me not to walk to the
• 1:08:14
  edge of that cliff, and I would be like, I can do what
• 1:08:16
  I want, and then I would just literally fall off the edge. It
• 1:08:19
  would crack under me and I would die, and everybody would be like,
• 1:08:24
  they fucking told you, And that would just be how I would It would
• 1:08:29
  be stupid death. It would be very, very dumb. Because I can
• 1:08:32
  be extremely childish about certain things and being like bossed, that's one of those
• 1:08:41
  things that I'm very immature about. We all have our thing, so I
• 1:08:46
  accept it, I understand it, I even respect it, but also,
• 1:08:55
  what the fuck is No, we have have critics, critical opinion about this,
• 1:09:04
  but it is so basically I just want to get I mean not just
• 1:09:12
  want to get through this because I want it to be over. But the
• 1:09:15
  thing is that actually Ace does not die necessarily because he got baited. I
• 1:09:24
  mean, it's part of it, but actually in the end he saves Loofy,
• 1:09:29
  you know that. Yes, true, that's actually what's gets the final
• 1:09:34
  blowing. You know. Yeah, being baited is definitely part of that,
• 1:09:41
  but at the end it was kind of like an act of real protection,
• 1:09:47
  you know, which is kind of ironic because like when he gets struck,
• 1:09:57
  and you see like Loofy just sort of registering on his face what just happened.
• 1:10:04
  He kind of one of the first things he says is like, but
• 1:10:08
  you said you would be here to protect me, And I was like,
• 1:10:12
  well he was mofy, Like that's literally what killed him is how hard he
• 1:10:19
  was here to protect you, Like he followed through on that. Bro,
• 1:10:25
  I don't know what to tell you. And it's frustrating because, like what
• 1:10:31
  I thought was sort of interesting here is that the reason aka Nu can hurt
• 1:10:36
  Ace is his magma power. Magma is hotter than fire. As it turns
• 1:10:43
  out, which I believe, right, that's like probably scientifically correct. Fire
• 1:10:49
  is not going to melt stone, but magma will. Magma is melted stone,
• 1:10:56
  right, Like, yeah, I wonder what the temperature is of maga.
• 1:11:00
  Hold on, I just want to know magma temperature between seven hundred and
• 1:11:11
  thirteen hundred degrees celsius twelve hundred and twenty three hundred degrees fahrenheit. Wow,
• 1:11:21
  that is a lot hotter than even I was expecting, my goodness. So
• 1:11:28
  yeah, that is why when this dude punches him, that hits and he's
• 1:11:33
  like coming at him at this point and Lufy's on the ground, and it
• 1:11:39
  feels to me like a Kayinu went at Lufy because he knew that was going
• 1:11:47
  to be Ace's weak spot. And I don't know if that's true or not,
• 1:11:51
  but that's what it looked like to me. Was like Ace is down
• 1:11:55
  already, and he says Loofy and is like, oh, I'm going to
• 1:11:58
  go after him. Then yeah, no, that's definitely also how I read
• 1:12:01
  it, like, okay, that's yeah. And then you see all of
• 1:12:08
  these like droplets floating in the air, but it's not clear at first that's
• 1:12:13
  what they are, because it's weird they like bounce. Yet No, these
• 1:12:17
  are not droplets of blood. These are like Ace wars and necklace that oh
• 1:12:26
  oh okay, I was not okay, I was not getting that's what that
• 1:12:30
  was. Yeah, and then we don't know, like as viewers, I'm
• 1:12:41
  watching it, I'm seeing these balls like roll by and I'm like the fuck,
• 1:12:45
  Like I was not understanding that was. And then you see a standing
• 1:12:50
  there in front of Loofy with like this giant fist coming through his chest and
• 1:12:57
  I was like, wait, it just it's so sudden, you know,
• 1:13:03
  and everybody around them the reaction. If they hadn't established already that a Kaynu
• 1:13:13
  could hit Ace, this wouldn't have hit for me the same way because I
• 1:13:17
  would have assumed Ace is fire and things go through him, so it wouldn't
• 1:13:24
  you know, this is just a fist going through his body the way everything
• 1:13:27
  else has gone through his body. But it was just established that this man
• 1:13:31
  can make contact, and so once I see this, I'm just like,
• 1:13:35
  holy shit, even like fucking buggy off to the side, It's like,
• 1:13:39
  Okay, that looks really bad. Honorable mention by the way to Marco who
• 1:13:45
  everybody is still trying to get out of these shackles. That's just like this
• 1:13:47
  weird ongoing thing in the background. Uh oh yeah, as an honorable mention
• 1:13:57
  to Chimbay, who Whiche's life flies in later, Yeah, you'd have have
• 1:14:03
  to fucking back off like Chimbay once again also being clouch like, yes,
• 1:14:11
  yeah, jim I really enjoyed Jimby. I wish that he weren't quite as
• 1:14:16
  earnest as he is. I wish there was like a little more humor to
• 1:14:19
  him, but I do enjoy him. But yeah, so this this,
• 1:14:30
  I mean, the injury that Ace has sustained. My immediate reaction was like,
• 1:14:36
  Oh, this guy's dead. And I was really surprised because at this
• 1:14:41
  point I really thought that I had gotten past ever believing anybody was dead.
• 1:14:45
  And when I looked at him, I was just kinda like, I don't
• 1:14:50
  see how he survives this. If the show is trying to make him survive,
• 1:14:56
  I am going to have a really hard time with it. And indeed
• 1:15:01
  there was a reason why. I mean, the wound is huge. Lufy's
• 1:15:05
  whole head could fit through it, you know. Okay, you knew it
• 1:15:11
  was like standing behind Ace and is twice the size of him. The whole
• 1:15:15
  three aces chest looks like it's at least eight inches across, you know.
• 1:15:20
  And he says, it looks like you're still alive, if only barely.
• 1:15:27
  I'll have to rectify that. And he fucking winds up to deal another punch
• 1:15:34
  again at this point, and white Beard jumps in here and he shoves his
• 1:15:43
  arm between who is it this time that's shooting the laser. He's trying to
• 1:15:50
  like step in, and Laser Man is like, we're in the middle of
• 1:15:54
  a fight, Bruh, what do you think you get to just walk away
• 1:15:57
  and help him. That's not how it's worse at all. Kissaro is the
• 1:16:01
  light man, Yeah, the Lisa man. He can I I just want
• 1:16:11
  to ask, like this whole sequence that is following, how did you like
• 1:16:15
  feel, whether tears in your eyes or like we've just the whole small,
• 1:16:21
  slow demise of ace you one could say there weren't tears in my eyes until
• 1:16:29
  the very end when he says thank thank you for loving me. The voice
• 1:16:34
  actor really went for it with his delivery at the end, because this voice
• 1:16:41
  actor has he can phone it in a tiny bit. He a lot of
• 1:16:45
  the time like he's doing a solid job, but it never feels like he's
• 1:16:50
  that concerned about the emotion. And it really seemed like he dialed in for
• 1:16:57
  this scene and knew I got to make it count. And so the tone
• 1:17:00
  of voice and the way he lets himself like his voice cracks and is very
• 1:17:05
  soft, like he can barely get it out, and he's doing this sort
• 1:17:09
  of almost like whistly breathing throughout. It was really really affecting. And so
• 1:17:15
  when he says that, especially because I had been sort of like, I
• 1:17:23
  don't know if this guy is really going to be dead though, once we
• 1:17:27
  got to this point, I was like, oh my god, he really
• 1:17:29
  is dead, like it's happening. So it was a combo of how convincing
• 1:17:33
  he was with his voice acting and the reality like actually setting in finally,
• 1:17:42
  and it was just such a good line because thank you for loving me on
• 1:17:46
  paper can feel real trite. It's it's, you know, the kind of
• 1:17:51
  line that it all rests on how you deliver it. You'd say the wrong
• 1:18:00
  way and it doesn't feel like anything. And I thought he really really made
• 1:18:06
  it like seem this is this guy's last words, like they matter to him,
• 1:18:14
  you know. So yeah, I definitely got choked up, like finally
• 1:18:17
  at the end. At the beginning, I wasn't willing to get choked up
• 1:18:21
  because I wasn't sure if I should believe it. I was just not trusting
• 1:18:25
  that this was happening. So yeah, that's totally fair. Like we have
• 1:18:30
  a moment before where like white Beard asked Ace, like before all of this
• 1:18:35
  happens, well, Aces bowing down to white Beard and he's like, are
• 1:18:41
  you just answer me? Are you happy to have me as your father?
• 1:18:45
  You know? And Ace is and he is or felt like an unloved child.
• 1:18:54
  We have seen that you know, like we have seen like his little
• 1:18:58
  flashbacks where he's like going around town asking about gold Rocher, like his actual
• 1:19:02
  dad, and nobody has anything good to say about that guy, and he
• 1:19:09
  just feels like, well, I guess I'm not love and I'm not supposed
• 1:19:14
  to be here, and these people around him just showed him that, no,
• 1:19:19
  you are love and we want you around here. Yeah, it is
• 1:19:26
  like one Pace says, like one of the big themes I feel like is
• 1:19:30
  just the theme of Chosen Family. It's definitely, yeah, definitely, and
• 1:19:40
  with Ace, you know, he got placed with the family for a while,
• 1:19:42
  but that person clearly was just like I just want to be able to
• 1:19:45
  like care for you without it always being a fucking issue, dude. So
• 1:19:49
  it's not like the Chosen Family happens for him right away. It takes time.
• 1:19:54
  He has to get older. And you know, I was going to
• 1:19:57
  say, like, like before that is dad On And Ace actually says to
• 1:20:04
  Lufy like before he dies, oh yeah, tell her like thank you or
• 1:20:11
  something, you know, he mentions her, and I'm just so excited for
• 1:20:19
  yeah, when you will finally meet dad On in some way or for me,
• 1:20:25
  it's going to be I'm interested in your opinions of her. Yeah,
• 1:20:30
  she's an interesting character that we have yet to meet. And the impression that
• 1:20:35
  I get of her is just like, man, I just want to make
• 1:20:39
  dinner and eat dinner and watch my programs and go to bed, and there's
• 1:20:44
  always some fucking drama with you, dude. Why Like that's the vibe I
• 1:20:47
  get. But I have not really met her, So who knows? And
• 1:20:57
  yeah, one, I mean, is there anything else you want to talk
• 1:21:01
  about? Specifically? Like the last scene is something that I just find really
• 1:21:09
  sad, Like just like Ace falls down or from Roofy's shoulder basically onto the
• 1:21:15
  ground and Lufy is just sitting there. And even before that, we have
• 1:21:21
  like a scene where everything is you have no sound, everything is quiet,
• 1:21:27
  and everything around them seems to not even be in slow motion, like literally
• 1:21:32
  stopping time. Yeah, that is like just an amazing scene. And so
• 1:21:38
  said, like I feel for Loofy so hard. Like I said it before,
• 1:21:43
  Ace is not my favorite. I like him, I definitely like him,
• 1:21:47
  but not at all in my top ten. Sorry but what did you
• 1:21:55
  say? But still, he's a great character, and especially thinking about Loofy
• 1:22:02
  in this context is just so heartbreaking to me, Yeah, yeah, the
• 1:22:11
  way that Lufy is drawn to it's just part of me being like, this
• 1:22:17
  is just something Lufy has never gone through because we have never seen this kind
• 1:22:21
  of expression on his face before. We have seen him angry, we have
• 1:22:26
  seen him shocked, we have seen him weld up. But this combination of
• 1:22:34
  disbelief and hurt and shock and rage definitely like and for me definitely like the
• 1:22:47
  point of him letting go of Ace, I was like, Okay, so
• 1:22:50
  he's accepting he's gone, because I sort of wondered if we were going to
• 1:22:56
  have Loofy refusing to believe it, because there's sort of a a sequence leading
• 1:23:00
  up to this, right after he's been punched, where everybody is being called
• 1:23:05
  over to see if they can do something to save him, and Lufy just
• 1:23:09
  doesn't want to hear it that there's nothing that can be done, and I
• 1:23:13
  was like, are we going to have him refusing to accept it? You
• 1:23:18
  know? But once he like hears Ace's last words and lets him slide to
• 1:23:25
  the ground, I was like, Okay, he wouldn't have let go of
• 1:23:28
  him like that if he didn't believe that was it. And when Ace goes
• 1:23:33
  down, he has like a little smile on his face just to signal like
• 1:23:40
  he got to say what he needed to say. And you see, also
• 1:23:43
  his viaver card just completely disappear into ashes. That was also like I feel
• 1:23:53
  like the viaver cop is actually an ingenious storytelling device and out of odor because
• 1:24:00
  he's like, Okay, I know you all motherfuckers out there saying, oh
• 1:24:04
  nobody dies, So I'm going to literally have a paper that symbolized the life
• 1:24:09
  of the person who is from basically, and the chi is gonna burn up
• 1:24:15
  and yeah, they're fucking that, you know. Like that was for me,
• 1:24:18
  like I see what all you're saying, like with Lufy, let him
• 1:24:23
  go, but like this little piece of paper burning up was for me like
• 1:24:28
  oh no, no, he is like this was like my last hope.
• 1:24:30
  I was always thinking, like, you know, we will see the card
• 1:24:32
  and there will be like a little Tina, but no that she is gone.
• 1:24:36
  It is gone gone. Yeah. Yeah. And then Lufy's crying again
• 1:24:45
  with like a voice actor really bringing it. The voice actor crying as Loufy.
• 1:24:50
  It would be it could just it could almost be funny if you did
• 1:24:57
  it wrong, because his voice is kind of silly. A lot of the
• 1:25:00
  time and having somebody with a silly voice sobbing crying, it could turn a
• 1:25:08
  corner to being kind of humorous even though it's not supposed to be. And
• 1:25:12
  I felt like she did a really good job of making it actually heart wrenching.
• 1:25:19
  So yeah, I just the voice actors really pulled out all the stops
• 1:25:23
  for this. Yeah, I actually do you know that when somebody's crying.
• 1:25:30
  But it also can sound like laughter in a way, especially if you don't
• 1:25:34
  see them, if you just hear it sometimes, and that is like something
• 1:25:41
  I feel like it's kind of pulled off here in a way where it's like,
• 1:25:44
  if you would only hear it, it almost could like feel like a
• 1:25:47
  manic laughter. I feel like it's not so like many crying and manic laughter
• 1:25:53
  are like really close neighbors. Oh yeah, have you ever laughed so hard
• 1:25:58
  that it's turned into crying? Have you ever had that happen? I've had
• 1:26:03
  that happen like twice in my life, and it was the sort of thing
• 1:26:05
  like as it happened, I was like, oh God, oh, something's
• 1:26:10
  happening. Like just I think laughter can just be such a release and it
• 1:26:15
  gets things rolling when you haven't let yourself feel things, and then the door's
• 1:26:20
  open and the rest of it comes out that you weren't planning on, you
• 1:26:25
  know. But then the other day, like I was in here and I
• 1:26:29
  was watching something with my headphones on racking up. I was laughing so hard,
• 1:26:33
  and Owen came rushing in all freaked out because he thought that I was
• 1:26:36
  like sobbing that something had happened. And I'm just sitting here like just with
• 1:26:41
  this huge grin. And he comes in and was like, oh, oh
• 1:26:45
  okay, like clearly a little irritated because he had gotten extremely worried all of
• 1:26:48
  a sudden. Oh he's a good boy. Well, okay, I want
• 1:26:58
  to ask you something, so go ahead. No, I mean yes,
• 1:27:01
  but it is Ace's favorite food, Kebab's. I know it's a donuts doughnut
• 1:27:14
  at the end, and yes, that's an answer of odor. Wow,
• 1:27:19
  Odor, you really are a sick fuck huh you's wrong with you? Man?
• 1:27:28
  Damn that's fucked up. Jesus right, Wow, that is that is
• 1:27:38
  grim sir ship. Wow. Oh yeah, I was just thinking of something
• 1:27:45
  to be easy to flame broil, you know. Wow. Really not not
• 1:27:54
  okay, Floren, Yeah, not okay o. But yeah, he's off
• 1:27:59
  his lands or so, my god, that's oh man, Yeah, all
• 1:28:14
  right, Well, is there anything else that you want to go over before
• 1:28:16
  we wrap this one up? Whooh? Not really? Just like maybe,
• 1:28:24
  I mean you alreadys said there you expect this shift of character in Loofy,
• 1:28:29
  like not maybe a total new Loofy, but just in general, like maybe
• 1:28:33
  besides Loofy, what do you expect for like the next episodes, any idea?
• 1:28:41
  I don't know. That's the thing that I'm sort of like, because
• 1:28:44
  you know, everything has kind of come to a screeching halt. Loofy is
• 1:28:47
  here in the midst of these guys who are really huge badasses, overpowered,
• 1:28:53
  and he has been so focused on getting Ace out that now the Ace isn't
• 1:28:58
  a factor anymore. It's just about Loofy and his cohorts getting out, And
• 1:29:03
  I'm not really sure he's gonna be that worried about that anymore. I kind
• 1:29:09
  of wonder if he isn't going to just get overwhelmed with wanting to take down
• 1:29:12
  the dude who did this Ace, and I don't want him to do that
• 1:29:18
  because I don't feel like he's in the headspace to take that dude on but
• 1:29:23
  also if you were like, well, we're going to have this what just
• 1:29:28
  happened to Ace sort of level Loofy up and break open some other untapped potential
• 1:29:34
  that's been lying dormant. Because pain makes you grow, I wouldn't hate that,
• 1:29:43
  but it would also feel like a little bit too soon to have that
• 1:29:46
  happen. And I feel like maybe white Beard is going to have to step
• 1:29:53
  in and stop him, because white Beard is going to be just as hurt
• 1:29:58
  that Ace is gone. But I think that he would not be willing to
• 1:30:04
  like let Loufy throw his life away, because what would be the point,
• 1:30:10
  probably keeping in mind that like Ace wouldn't want that as well, that if
• 1:30:14
  Ace were here, he would want white Beard to protect his brother. He
• 1:30:18
  gave his life to save Loofy. Don't go fucking doing something like that now,
• 1:30:24
  you know. So I feel like it has to be just getting the
• 1:30:29
  fuck out of there. But that's the smart thing to do, and I
• 1:30:33
  don't know if that's what we're doing here, you know. Or you could
• 1:30:40
  go the other way, because like my instinct is Lufy just acts out hugely
• 1:30:44
  and launches into some sort of like almost like a suicide attack. But you
• 1:30:49
  could also go the other way, where Lufy just loses all motivation to do
• 1:30:53
  anything, like this is such an alien thing that happened, a loss that
• 1:30:58
  he can't even comprehend that he just freezes up and doesn't know how to process
• 1:31:04
  it or keep moving. You know, Like, how mad would you be
• 1:31:12
  if next episode is just like a blackout and Lufy wakes up and we have
• 1:31:16
  like missed the rest of this battle. That would be pretty fucked up.
• 1:31:24
  Considering how much time we have spent in this battle to then miss the end
• 1:31:30
  of it, to skip it, I would be like, well, we
• 1:31:32
  could have skipped a lot of other parts too, if we were gonna do
• 1:31:35
  it that way, you know what I mean, Like, I feel like
• 1:31:39
  it wouldn't be so much as I feel like a cheat in the sense of
• 1:31:43
  like I wanted to see it so much as like, well, there was
• 1:31:47
  lots of this that we saw that I didn't particularly want to see, and
• 1:31:50
  I would have liked to sort of deal with this sooner then, So that's
• 1:31:55
  how Yeah, I think I would just be frustrated, just be like,
• 1:31:58
  well, so so now we can just like jump over events, Okay,
• 1:32:02
  but that's right. I also feel like they are so entrenched that if he
• 1:32:08
  wakes up after that suggests that these guys have gotten out, and if we
• 1:32:13
  didn't get to see them get out, I don't know if I'm believing that
• 1:32:16
  they managed to do it. It would feel like maybe Oda just didn't know
• 1:32:20
  how to get his people out and decided, all right, I don't want
• 1:32:24
  to deal with it. We'll just say they got out, you know what
• 1:32:25
  I mean? So yeah, so that's that. No, Okay, good,
• 1:32:32
  I'm not saying anything but interesting because you were like, yeah, maybe
• 1:32:38
  he's incompacitated and were like, well then he blecks out. Okay, when
• 1:32:42
  he blecks out, what those men, you know, like, do we
• 1:32:44
  don't see this to see what's happening. What I'm thinking about with him being
• 1:32:48
  incapacitated is more like there's a full retreat by the pirates and white Beard basically
• 1:32:55
  has to like pick loofy up, like Lufy has just completely checked out.
• 1:33:00
  You know, he's still like awake and conscious, but he is is like
• 1:33:08
  sort of I don't want to say like vegetative. That's not quite it,
• 1:33:13
  but you know, like what do they call that in shock? Would I
• 1:33:17
  guess? In shock? Yeah, there's another word for it that I can't
• 1:33:23
  remember now, but yeah, basically in shock so catatonic. Thank you,
• 1:33:31
  Jessica, Yeah, tonic, Jessica said of your joke, that was mean.
• 1:33:39
  It's not my joke. I'm just no, yeah, that was all
• 1:33:44
  being mean. What does apparently quite mean? Can I say one more finger?
• 1:33:47
  Over all? What time? Like? No? No, go ahead.
• 1:33:51
  That's something I wanted to mention as well. You said that when Ace
• 1:33:55
  died, he had like a little smile on his face. M h.
• 1:33:59
  Something pointing out to you because that's something that you you don't catch the first
• 1:34:04
  time watching. Ever, is that actually everybody who has a D in their
• 1:34:12
  name and dies on the show dies with a smile on her face. M
• 1:34:16
  hm, Like there is podcast DA's what's Goldwatcher himself he does smiling, and
• 1:34:26
  I think the Giant also nohwar like with Robin's back story, he also was
• 1:34:32
  taul like these hours and he gets like freezed and he gets frozen up,
• 1:34:39
  and while he gets frozen up, he laughs. And I feel like there
• 1:34:44
  is another one that I'm forgetting that we already have seen. But basically,
• 1:34:47
  like that is a little thing that always appears, like when a character with
• 1:34:54
  a D dies, then they're smiling, which is yeah, it's weird.
• 1:35:00
  They have like it's just like the devil fruits, honestly, like that,
• 1:35:04
  then this thing, like the lineage of the D or like this name of
• 1:35:10
  the D is still shrouded in mystery at this point, right. Yeah,
• 1:35:17
  But but there are a lot of like little tidbits that I honestly, I
• 1:35:25
  don't know if it's like meaningful in a big like you know, to the
• 1:35:31
  story, but it's just always a nice thing to notice those little things,
• 1:35:35
  you know. Well, thank you for that, man. Yeah, I
• 1:35:45
  can't believe we stopped there. So what is it three episodes? Next time?
• 1:35:47
  I think you said not to look ahead on the chart. Oh yeah,
• 1:35:51
  no, you you can look at it. I mean you could have
• 1:35:55
  also looked at it last time. It was just that when we don't have
• 1:36:00
  to talk a lot about it. But I put in Sengoku's dairy fruit power
• 1:36:04
  in there. Oh I see, okay, And it was not revealed before
• 1:36:10
  last episode, so I didn't want you to, like, excellentally look at
• 1:36:14
  it? Gotcha? All right? Cool? Well, thank you so much
• 1:36:19
  for joining me Forloren. It was very good to have somebody to go back
• 1:36:23
  and forth with on these sad episodes, and thank you Jessica for joining us
• 1:36:30
  as well, and I hope everybody listening is enjoying the coverage. Also appreciate
• 1:36:35
  you all out there and until next time to Loo motherfuckers. Bye guys,
• 1:37:13
  that was an unspoiled network podcast