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- 0:02Emily Wade (Host): Welcome to Office Hours with MIT Health, where we answer
- 0:05your curious, confusing, and sometimes cringe-worthy health questions.
- 0:09I'm your host, Emily Wade, and today we're talking Shin splints with Dr.
- 0:13Sean Faro, our Deputy Chief Health Officer.
- 0:17Hey Sean, thanks for being on the show.
- 0:19Shawn Ferullo, MD: How are you happy to be here?
- 0:21Emily Wade (Host): Thanks.
- 0:22All right.
- 0:22Before we get started, I'm going to, remind everybody that the
- 0:27information in this podcast is for educational purposes only.
- 0:31It's not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.
- 0:35So if you have a medical concern, consult your primary care provider or another.
- 0:40Qualified medical professional.
- 0:42All right, so I'm gonna get to today's question, which came from
- 0:46one of our, MIT community members.
- 0:49Dear Office hours, I'm trying to get into running, but every time I try to build
- 0:55up mileage, my shins just freak out.
- 0:58I keep hearing that if you're a pronator, you're doomed to shin
- 1:02splints, but I don't know if that's me.
- 1:05Can shoes fix this problem or am I dealing with something deeper?
- 1:09So Sean, This is like good timing because we just attended the, kickoff
- 1:15for the MIT get Fit yesterday, so I'm sure we have a lot of people out there
- 1:20who are trying to get into running.
- 1:23so maybe you can start by just kind of explaining what Shin
- 1:27splints are And what causes them.
- 1:29Shawn Ferullo, MD: Yeah, happy to.
- 1:29It's a great question.
- 1:31Well formed.
- 1:32so I think the easiest way to think about shin splints is that they're,
- 1:37they are technically an inflammation along the lining of the shin bone, the
- 1:41tibia, which is on the inside of The leg, the fibular is on the outside our
- 1:46calf muscles and some of our muscles that help us push off while running.
- 1:50Attach along that, border of the tibia.
- 1:53And what shin splints are is a tightness and irritation, And then a
- 1:57resulting inflammation of the lining of the bone, the periosteum that
- 2:01occurs from tension and traction and pulling of the muscles on there.
- 2:05So frequently not uncommonly experienced by people building into running for,
- 2:11the beginning, but also sometimes, overuse or other things as well.
- 2:15But, that's the easiest way to think about what chin splints are.
- 2:19Emily Wade (Host): So it's kind of a little bit of a way of your body kind of
- 2:22saying maybe you gotta take a little extra time to get from the couch to the 5K.
- 2:27Shawn Ferullo, MD: Yeah, I think that's a great point, right?
- 2:29Oftentimes it is, muscle tightness, muscle imbalance, tightness or
- 2:34as you're building in, right?
- 2:36So oftentimes what I experience, especially in New England, is
- 2:39people are sometimes in shape.
- 2:42Cardiovascularly from going to the gym in the winter and doing biking or
- 2:47swimming, but then their legs aren't as in shape as their cardiovascular system.
- 2:52So when you start into that running, it's almost too much for your legs all at once.
- 2:56And that coach to 5K or walk, run walk cycles for a truly new novice
- 3:02runner is really helpful to kind of.
- 3:05Gauge a bit of the tension and muscle strength And then a little bit of walking
- 3:09with blood flow, flexibility And then back and forth and gradually build up.
- 3:14And so it's a really good technique for building into running for sure.
- 3:18Emily Wade (Host): That's reassuring because, I, feel like I'm kind
- 3:21of a runner, but just sort.
- 3:23To chug along.
- 3:23I'm not that good at it.
- 3:25And So, it, but hard because, if you're on, it's a little snowy right now,
- 3:30but if you're like running on Memorial Drive and you see somebody flying past
- 3:35you, it's just a little hard to just not instinctively try to speed up.
- 3:41So it's, good to know that it's not so embarrassing if you need to like
- 3:44slow down and walk a little bit, to, while you're getting used to it.
- 3:48Shawn Ferullo, MD: Not at all.
- 3:49That's another great point, right.
- 3:51So, in that intro to running both speed.
- 3:54where, more muscle force is needed, more muscle contraction
- 3:57is needed to propel faster.
- 3:59And when we run faster, our gates, our stride gets shorter
- 4:04in order to increase cadence.
- 4:05Right?
- 4:06So you take more steps.
- 4:07So both speed and distance or things that people should be
- 4:11thinking about, as you're kind of building into that running program.
- 4:14But no, not embarrassing at all.
- 4:16Shouldn't be.
- 4:17I think getting out there and doing things is way better than not doing things.
- 4:22I think another unique part of New England is we are blessed with a few great months
- 4:27for running weather And then it's too hot And then a few great months of running
- 4:31weather And then it's icy and snowy.
- 4:32So even people who are avid runners often have these periods
- 4:36of less road running because of the climate and changes that happen.
- 4:42Emily Wade (Host): So are there any, good ways to prevent.
- 4:45This from happening besides kind of like taking it slow maybe adhering to one of
- 4:51those kind of like walk run programs.
- 4:54Shawn Ferullo, MD: Yeah, I think it's a great question.
- 4:56I think of it holistically always, right?
- 4:58So what are all the things our body needs to do to run, right?
- 5:02So I think one of them is, training program, right?
- 5:05Walk, run, walk cycles.
- 5:07Sometimes I advise people to just.
- 5:09If they don't wanna do that, like walk the first half a mile, run a half
- 5:12mile, walk the last half a mile, right.
- 5:14And then gradually build in.
- 5:16There's an, You know, it doesn't always have to be so broken
- 5:18up, but, build in that way.
- 5:21I think, as with other things, a good flexibility program,
- 5:24which is not comfortable to stretch ever as a human, I think.
- 5:28And I think.
- 5:30To that point, I think one of the key features in Emily And in prevention
- 5:34is that oftentimes a dynamic warmup is more important than just stretching
- 5:40for five minutes before you run, right?
- 5:42So cold static stretching evidence shows that it does not reduce
- 5:46injury risk, and actually it's not, it doesn't improve performance.
- 5:50What does is this kind of little bit of stretching and warming the muscles up,
- 5:54so, a little stretch, walk a bit warm up or jumping jacks or something along
- 5:59the lines of just getting the muscles.
- 6:01And blood flowing is, I think, a really important piece of that prevention.
- 6:06'cause it's not just stretch for three minutes as we were taught as kids
- 6:09in a circle And then just go run.
- 6:11so I think there's a big piece, certainly running shoes, right?
- 6:15So, if someone's truly building into running, making sure you do have a
- 6:18running shoe and not like a walking shoe or a flat sneaker That is more.
- 6:23For design, then support, that sometimes will help people who
- 6:28pronate alone just by getting a good arch support and a running shoe.
- 6:32Pronation does put more pressure on the inner ankle because as we stride,
- 6:37the foot turns in so those muscles on the inside of the calf are holding
- 6:41up, which is why shin splints are more common, but it doesn't necessarily
- 6:46mean people can't run like some strengthening, sometimes physical therapy.
- 6:50If someone pronates a fair bit as a, as a.
- 6:53Bootcamp strengthening program.
- 6:55good shoes, good supportive shoes, hamstring stretching, even like quad hip
- 7:00and glute strengthening because as we run all those muscles support our leg.
- 7:04so it's hard to give one dynamic program, but all these factors come into play.
- 7:08And, to the question to us, no, a pronator is not doomed to never be a runner.
- 7:13but there are different techniques that can help that for sure.
- 7:17Emily Wade (Host): So you, mentioned shoes and I, am a little curious, do
- 7:21you recommend that somebody who's maybe getting into running get fitted for shoes?
- 7:26Is it something where it makes sense to go to like a running store or is
- 7:31it something where is that overkill
- 7:34Shawn Ferullo, MD: it's a great question, right?
- 7:36one of the, most complicated part in advising people for shoes is that shoes
- 7:41have become such a fashion component now, And the same companies that
- 7:46make running really good high quality running shoes make lower cheaper model.
- 7:52Similar, looking from the outside fashion forward shoes that aren't as supportive.
- 7:58So there isn't, it's not easy to just say this one brand or that one brand.
- 8:03I think there is something you get what you pay for sort of mode.
- 8:07That doesn't mean you have to go out and buy the most expensive shoe.
- 8:09That doesn't mean it's the best shoe, but a good shoe That is well built does
- 8:14tend to cost more than you'll find in a.
- 8:17Bargain basement store or something, unless you get really lucky and they're
- 8:20trying to move the product along.
- 8:22So I do think there's good, truthfully, in a good store that works with
- 8:26runners and can give honest guidance and advice is really the key.
- 8:30And some of the more.
- 8:32Mall forward stores are, younger workers that are, not as trained in fitting
- 8:38shoe type And that sort of stuff.
- 8:40Not that that's bad, but I think a little bit of research into shoe type.
- 8:44I think a little bit of.
- 8:46Certainly there are stores around that are quite good at this,
- 8:49and I wouldn't call it overkill.
- 8:51And many of those stores or good ones aren't gonna just try to
- 8:54sell you the highest model, right?
- 8:56They're gonna really talk to you about how much running do you do,
- 8:59what's your mileage, You know, right.
- 9:01Because that then factors into what type of shoe might be best and they'll
- 9:05even watch you walk and sometimes even walk on a computer as pad.
- 9:09All of those things to kind of fit you to the right type of shoe.
- 9:12So.
- 9:13I don't say to people they have to go to one of those stores, but I certainly
- 9:17don't discourage people from trying that.
- 9:19cause it, is a, good way to try to get a good shoe so you don't just keep buying
- 9:23something and it doesn't feel right.
- 9:25And then you buy another thing And then you go round and round.
- 9:27Emily Wade (Host): I've definitely, been guilty of that, uh, buying
- 9:31a bunch of different, well,
- 9:32You know, but they, sometimes they just look so cool, you're not thinking about
- 9:37like, whether it's actually good for
- 9:39Shawn Ferullo, MD: Yeah.
- 9:41And what's interesting too is, years ago, God gonna date myself,
- 9:45but 20 years ago or so, right?
- 9:46Cross training shoes were really, really popular, right?
- 9:49You can do all your activities in it, but they didn't always have
- 9:52the best running support, right?
- 9:54And so, yeah, I think just thinking of all of those factors, does come
- 9:59into what support you get out of that shoe when you're running.
- 10:02Emily Wade (Host): So this just came in my mind.
- 10:04have, I have a friend who's really, really a serious, serious runner.
- 10:07And, she's also a very serious, foam roller user.
- 10:12Shawn Ferullo, MD: sure.
- 10:13Emily Wade (Host): is that something that can kind of help with shin splints?
- 10:16I, am so incapable of using a foam roller.
- 10:19I just sort of like fall off of it every time I try to use
- 10:21one.
- 10:22But is that Oh yeah, they're so painful.
- 10:26So, is that something that, can help with the shin splint?
- 10:29Shawn Ferullo, MD: Yeah, it definitely is.
- 10:31And the way that I describe this to patient's is, think of
- 10:34your muscle as a rope, right?
- 10:37And so our muscles can be stiff and you can have a rope that's really
- 10:40tight, but we also can get little spasms and knots in our muscles.
- 10:44And, the analogy of that would be, and it's not a perfect science
- 10:48analogy, is if you had that rope and there was a knot tied in it.
- 10:51The more you stretch, the more you just tighten that knot.
- 10:54And so in some ways, if we have these areas or trigger points or spasms in
- 10:58our muscles, in our calfs, you can stretch, but you might actually be
- 11:02just tightening that knot over time.
- 11:05And what the foam roller, or like a rolling stick or that sort of
- 11:09my myofascial release is doing, is trying to untie those knots.
- 11:13And then followed by stretching can actually get you much more relief.
- 11:17And so, foam rolling.
- 11:19Rolling sticks.
- 11:20Uh, rolling.
- 11:21Sticks are a little easier, than foam rolling.
- 11:23Do have a, place, in there.
- 11:25they're not mandatory, but there is definitely a component of that.
- 11:30Emily Wade (Host): So, okay, we have Get Fit kicking off.
- 11:33The beginning of next week, although this episode will probably come out.
- 11:37After GetFit is started, it occurs to me.
- 11:40but we have a lot of people who are on these teams and they're trying
- 11:45to get up their mileage so that they can hit that, 300 minute mark.
- 11:49And their team can win.
- 11:51and if they start to feel pain or, they've done everything we've recommended in
- 11:55this video, and, they're still kind of feeling not great when is the moment
- 12:01when they should give, sports medicine, maybe sports medicine at MIT Health, A
- 12:05call, and, see about getting treatment.
- 12:09Shawn Ferullo, MD: Yeah, it's a great question.
- 12:10So we're always there to help and people have questions even if their
- 12:13symptoms are not debilitating.
- 12:15We're always available.
- 12:16I think that like when should you really seek professional guidance?
- 12:21I think pain That is escalating.
- 12:23So happening, earlier in runs or more often or, lingering, not just during
- 12:28the run, but for days after the run.
- 12:30And that then is affecting the next run.
- 12:32Certainly any pain or discomfort even That is lingering into walking, right?
- 12:37Or anything That is sore enough that you're limping.
- 12:40we always want to think about stress fractures as a, another potential
- 12:44source of bony pain in the legs.
- 12:46but I think certainly persistence, frustration if you feel like you're
- 12:50doing all the right stuff, but it's still not getting better,
- 12:53even if they're not horrible.
- 12:54And then certainly like escalating discomfort where a little bit of
- 12:59rest or a little bit of, training break isn't actually helping
- 13:03it or it is coming right back.
- 13:04For sure.
- 13:05And then of course, any swelling or bruising, like any odd symptoms that
- 13:08are different than that for sure.
- 13:11Emily Wade (Host): Okay.
- 13:12So I hope you all paid attention to that.
- 13:14don't just, smile through the pain.
- 13:16Give us a call if you need us.
- 13:18so, to recap, seems like, these chin splints are kind of come down to.
- 13:24Trying to get started, with a program too quickly or having tight muscles
- 13:28or tired shoes and, making sure that you're kind of thinking about dynamic
- 13:34stretching and using appropriate supports and using those good shoes is
- 13:41gonna really kind of help you along.
- 13:43Does that sound
- 13:43good?
- 13:44Shawn Ferullo, MD: yeah.
- 13:44And I think, you there's a little bit of, muscle soreness from building
- 13:47into any new exercise routine.
- 13:50And so, Fitting in that, stretching that, maybe rolling stick, as part
- 13:54of that routine, is important.
- 13:56But that sounds exactly right.
- 13:58Emily Wade (Host): Excellent.
- 13:59Well, thank you so much, Sean, for being here and being on our very
- 14:04first episode of Office Hours.
- 14:07I hope we have you back again.
- 14:08I have a feeling we will, so that's the end of the episode.
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