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- 0:10Speaker 1: Welcome back to the I Jubiter podcast. This is episode
- 0:13Speaker 1: one hundred and six with mister Tim Dills uh from
- 0:17Speaker 1: n CI also known as North Carolina Investigations. I had
- 0:21Speaker 1: Tim on. I had Tim on at the very beginning,
- 0:25Speaker 1: like episode Tennis showers around there, and a lot of
- 0:28Speaker 1: things have happened since then, so if you want to
- 0:30Speaker 1: go back and check that out. Uh, it was quite uh,
- 0:33Speaker 1: quite an interview back then, and in this interview is
- 0:37Speaker 1: it's gotten interesting. So mister Tim Dills Uh, he's uh,
- 0:42Speaker 1: he's a great guy, just fantastic, just assault of the earth,
- 0:45Speaker 1: wonderful guy. And he started outlining things have been happening
- 0:49Speaker 1: to him. So what I seen he was, uh, it
- 0:51Speaker 1: was it was a it was a remark that he
- 0:53Speaker 1: put on one of the Facebook groups about one of
- 0:56Speaker 1: these you know, these bigfoot getting down on all fours
- 0:58Speaker 1: and then running away while he was bow hunting. An
- 1:02Speaker 1: incredible story. So I had him back on and he
- 1:04Speaker 1: started going into how often these things are now being
- 1:07Speaker 1: seen in his hunting areas and how their numbers are increasing,
- 1:11Speaker 1: and how alarming it is to him that some of
- 1:14Speaker 1: his game that he usually looks for are not there.
- 1:16Speaker 1: So it's a pretty incredible episode. If you keep coming
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- 1:38Speaker 1: this episode. I really liked it with one mister Tim Dill's. Hey, sorry,
- 1:44Speaker 1: how are you doing that?
- 1:45Speaker 2: I'm doing good.
- 1:48Speaker 1: I gotta go through and cut that out. Just my
- 1:51Speaker 1: computer froze. I had to restart it. That's never happened before,
- 1:54Speaker 1: but it is what it is.
- 1:55Speaker 2: How you been I've been good.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Busy. Yeah, we've all been busy. Tim, do be your favorite.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about yourself, what you're promoting today,
- 2:05Speaker 1: and where people can find you.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Okay, my name is Tim Dial's. I'm from Franklin, North Carolina,
- 2:12Speaker 2: in the western end of North Carolina. My main squatching
- 2:16Speaker 2: groups is NCI and Sashquatch Recon that used to be
- 2:21Speaker 2: Dirty South Squatching. If you want to get a hold
- 2:24Speaker 2: of any of us. You can reach us on YouTube
- 2:27Speaker 2: and TikTok. If you want to get a hold of
- 2:30Speaker 2: me personally, you can reach out to Tim Dill's thirteen
- 2:34Speaker 2: on TikTok to YouTube, and that's also my email address
- 2:40Speaker 2: at Yahoo.
- 2:41Speaker 1: So if you got.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Anything you want to talk about it, or got any questions,
- 2:45Speaker 2: you can get ahold.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Of me today. All links in the description below right
- 2:48Speaker 1: underneath the guests links, and you can go there when
- 2:50Speaker 1: you reach out to Tim and contact them. Please do so.
- 2:53Speaker 1: All right, man, So it's been a minute more than
- 2:57Speaker 1: a minute, and I happened to I can't remember. I
- 3:00Speaker 1: ran across you writing something on a page somewhere and
- 3:04Speaker 1: I said, would you do you want to come on
- 3:06Speaker 1: and talk about it. You were like, heck, yeah, dude,
- 3:08Speaker 1: let's do that. So tell you start, start from the
- 3:11Speaker 1: beginning what happened and walk us through this.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Well, I was going, I thank the incident you're talking
- 3:19Speaker 2: about it when I was going bowl hunting, and I
- 3:23Speaker 2: was I was in the area that really what one
- 3:27Speaker 2: of my research areas I'd had just strange feelings are before.
- 3:33Speaker 2: But anyway, I was going in there hunting because I
- 3:36Speaker 2: haven't seen any bigfoots there and I sort of wanting
- 3:38Speaker 2: a break from them, so I get to walking upside
- 3:41Speaker 2: the mountain. I'm going to get up on top of
- 3:44Speaker 2: the very top of the ridge where flattens out and
- 3:47Speaker 2: getting a good seat. And I was going up there,
- 3:50Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, bigfoot steps out from behind
- 3:54Speaker 2: a big oak tree about twenty feet in front of me,
- 3:57Speaker 2: and it's about seven seven high tall, white across the shoulders,
- 4:02Speaker 2: black black hair, and it takes about five steps, looks
- 4:09Speaker 2: over it shoulder at me, and drops down onto all
- 4:12Speaker 2: fours and takes off running. And I have never in
- 4:16Speaker 2: my life seen anything that fast. It was so fast.
- 4:21Speaker 2: With me with my bowl, I was thinking, I bear
- 4:24Speaker 2: sif there's any more of these things, because if it
- 4:27Speaker 2: comes to knockdown, drag out, a gun will help something.
- 4:30Speaker 2: But this crossbowl ain't gonna help nothing. So I look
- 4:34Speaker 2: back at the tree to see if there's any more
- 4:38Speaker 2: coming out, and they don't. And by the time I
- 4:40Speaker 2: turn and look around, he has done and covered out
- 4:44Speaker 2: of sight. And I'd say it was at least one
- 4:47Speaker 2: hundred one hundred yards at least, if not more, that
- 4:52Speaker 2: he had to cover to get gone, and he was
- 4:55Speaker 2: gone that fast. I have never it. Honest to goodness,
- 5:00Speaker 2: that blew my mind that something that big could move
- 5:04Speaker 2: that fast on all fours standing up running. You know
- 5:07Speaker 2: I can see that because it's six seven foot stride
- 5:10Speaker 2: when the run, if not more, and that I could understand.
- 5:14Speaker 2: But that thing, it got gone and it just blew
- 5:18Speaker 2: my mind. It honestly did. Yeah.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Yeah, could you describe the stride? Does it like did
- 5:25Speaker 1: it do like a cat where it kind of stretches
- 5:27Speaker 1: in the middle and you know what I mean, kind
- 5:29Speaker 1: of does this whole deal?
- 5:30Speaker 2: No, the what little bit I got to see because
- 5:34Speaker 2: as soon as it dropped down to take off, I
- 5:36Speaker 2: watched it for just a second and then I turned
- 5:39Speaker 2: around to look. But it was like two hands forward,
- 5:43Speaker 2: pulish you back with the feet like it's like, uh,
- 5:50Speaker 2: trying to think what runs like it some dogs do,
- 5:55Speaker 2: But it was putting them two front full feet forward
- 5:58Speaker 2: and grabbing then gone.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Right and then like the middle legs come in between
- 6:04Speaker 1: the front two when yeah back at the same time. Okay, yeah, yeah.
- 6:14Speaker 2: And like I said, I have never seen anything in
- 6:17Speaker 2: my life that fat.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Well. Ok so you said that you've won hunting because
- 6:25Speaker 1: you were in an area that you don't see them
- 6:28Speaker 1: because you've had so much activity, like it's been what
- 6:31Speaker 1: a year and a half since you've been on. What
- 6:34Speaker 1: you could walk me through what's been going on with
- 6:35Speaker 1: you and why you you know, because I remember you
- 6:37Speaker 1: were talking about that when you came on. It was
- 6:39Speaker 1: the samurai chatter and the things that you were hearing.
- 6:42Speaker 1: You brought I think a friend's property or an adjacent
- 6:45Speaker 1: property to a friend or something of this nature. So
- 6:48Speaker 1: walk me through that, and walk me through from that,
- 6:51Speaker 1: you know, incident until now what is uh what has
- 6:54Speaker 1: been the life of ten.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Dill's Okay, Well, my buddy that had the property heap,
- 7:01Speaker 2: so I lost the privilege of going on there and
- 7:06Speaker 2: going squatching, which the main thing was my hunting areas
- 7:14Speaker 2: seemed to start turning into squatching places, places where I'd
- 7:20Speaker 2: never seen bigfoot before. All of a sudden they started
- 7:23Speaker 2: showing up one place I know, I've been hunting it
- 7:27Speaker 2: for at least fifteen years and never saw bigfoot in
- 7:32Speaker 2: there none whatsoever, and all of a sudden.
- 7:40Speaker 1: And.
- 7:41Speaker 2: At the time I thought it was just a lot,
- 7:43Speaker 2: but since then I've been told it was probably an oord.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Me and my buddy was he dropped me off, and
- 7:52Speaker 2: I went up in my place to hunt, and he
- 7:55Speaker 2: was going to come back around row and pick me up.
- 7:58Speaker 2: And I'm coming back out of the woods about dark
- 8:01Speaker 2: and it gets completely dark on end. I look down
- 8:04Speaker 2: in the woods and I see a light moving around.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Wow.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Orange, just a dull orange, like an old lantern. It
- 8:13Speaker 2: was okay that I thought of, and I thought, well,
- 8:17Speaker 2: what's he doing with that? We just come from Walmart
- 8:20Speaker 2: would bring you high pired flashlights? Was he using that thing?
- 8:25Speaker 2: So I turned my light on to shine that in
- 8:28Speaker 2: what I thought was him, and it disappeared that light.
- 8:32Speaker 2: I watched it for probably a minute meant in a
- 8:35Speaker 2: halfe and it was just moving intelligently. It wasn't just
- 8:38Speaker 2: like it was flipping around, but it, honestly the goodness
- 8:42Speaker 2: looked to me like it's looking for something, because it's
- 8:44Speaker 2: just moving back and forth.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Right.
- 8:48Speaker 2: I thought, well, what's he doing down there? Because it's
- 8:50Speaker 2: supposed to a truck, and went on around the road
- 8:53Speaker 2: and I dropped down there to where it was at
- 8:56Speaker 2: and he ain't there, and I thought, yeah, he's gonna
- 9:00Speaker 2: jump out behind the tree and try to scare me there,
- 9:03Speaker 2: And I said, you might as well come on out
- 9:05Speaker 2: because I doesn't see the lie dog. Well, nothing happened.
- 9:10Speaker 2: I stand there for a few minutes and I whistled,
- 9:13Speaker 2: and I said, you might as well come on out,
- 9:14Speaker 2: because I know it was you. And nothing happened. I said, well,
- 9:18Speaker 2: I'm going onto the truck. Why get that back down
- 9:21Speaker 2: to the truck. Well where the where he letting me
- 9:23Speaker 2: out at? And the truck ain't even there. And I
- 9:28Speaker 2: get all come off the bank down into the road
- 9:31Speaker 2: and here he comes in my truck and pulls up.
- 9:34Speaker 2: And I told him what had happened. Once I loaded
- 9:39Speaker 2: my stuff up and we started that, I said, I've
- 9:42Speaker 2: seen the courageous thing. He said, what's that? I said,
- 9:45Speaker 2: I seen the orange light moving around up in the woods,
- 9:48Speaker 2: and when I turned my flashlight on, it turned up,
- 9:53Speaker 2: it disappeared, and I thought it was you. And he
- 9:55Speaker 2: said no, he said, but you ain't gonna believe this.
- 9:58Speaker 2: He said, I was sitting in the old I found
- 10:00Speaker 2: a place where I talked to his wife. He could
- 10:03Speaker 2: talk to his wife on the phone.
- 10:04Speaker 1: Oh, he found some signal. Okay, yeah, he found.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Some cell phone signal. And he was sitting there talking
- 10:11Speaker 2: to her, and he said he noticed in the rear
- 10:15Speaker 2: view there, urge light come from below the road, come
- 10:18Speaker 2: up into the stopped in the middle of the road
- 10:21Speaker 2: for a few minutes, and then went up right into
- 10:23Speaker 2: where I just come from.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Oh so he saw it too. Yeah.
- 10:27Speaker 2: And it wasn't long after that till the big foot
- 10:31Speaker 2: started chilling up, you know, started finding the tree breaks,
- 10:36Speaker 2: the stuff putting my trail. Going up to where I
- 10:40Speaker 2: hunt at the halls in there, I had.
- 10:44Speaker 1: What do you mean my stuff put in the trail?
- 10:46Speaker 1: What do you mean?
- 10:47Speaker 2: Oh, they're always putting trees across my trail and breaking
- 10:51Speaker 2: limbs and throwing them into it, throwing them in the trail.
- 10:54Speaker 3: And there's a couple.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Of places where I had to go through laurel thickets,
- 11:01Speaker 2: and I've got a trail cut from where I can
- 11:03Speaker 2: walk it. But I'll go in and there'll be a
- 11:06Speaker 2: stick that big, a round run through that'll that would
- 11:09Speaker 2: hit me right in the chest chest high uh huh. Yeah.
- 11:12Speaker 2: And there's no way that those you know that got
- 11:15Speaker 2: in there without being put in there.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Yeah, because a little thickets, people who don't know, they're
- 11:21Speaker 1: like little it's like always green, and the little spiky
- 11:24Speaker 1: leaves on them. Asa step on them a lot ways
- 11:25Speaker 1: to go, uh swimming. While I was a kid at
- 11:27Speaker 1: this one place. They kind of suck actually barefooted. But yeah,
- 11:33Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and normally in those kinds of situations there's
- 11:35Speaker 1: not much. Normally they kind of dominate the area normally. Yeah, yeah,
- 11:40Speaker 1: the hogs.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that area I've been hunted for years
- 11:46Speaker 2: and I I had twenty three different full ground hogs
- 11:51Speaker 2: on my camera that year that I'd been keeping up
- 11:55Speaker 2: with all summer long. It that was in the fall.
- 12:03Speaker 2: It was in about August September. It wasn't quite hunting
- 12:09Speaker 2: season yet because I didn't have that kind of gun
- 12:12Speaker 2: with me. I just had my pistol with me, and
- 12:16Speaker 2: so I'm started noticing all this stuff, and I kept
- 12:22Speaker 2: up with it and started noticing the hog population. And
- 12:27Speaker 2: in less than a year's time, I went from twenty
- 12:30Speaker 2: three full grown hogs down to three. And the three
- 12:36Speaker 2: that I had on camera was a bore and two
- 12:39Speaker 2: pregnant cells. Okay, and the sell one of the seals
- 12:45Speaker 2: give birth. I'm getting all this on my trail camera.
- 12:49Speaker 1: One of the.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Souths give birth had about eight small ones and in
- 12:56Speaker 2: I guess it was about three weeks. She went from
- 12:59Speaker 2: eight small ones down to two small ones.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Wow, are you finding any like any like anything up there,
- 13:07Speaker 1: like any of the remains I guess you would call it.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Are you finding anything like that? No?
- 13:13Speaker 2: And whenever I killed something up there, I'll come back
- 13:16Speaker 2: and it's gone, the gut piles are gone. If I
- 13:19Speaker 2: kill a deer or a hog and back and they'll
- 13:22Speaker 2: carry that off too. This year, I've got my camera
- 13:28Speaker 2: out right now, but so far this year, I've had
- 13:31Speaker 2: one hog on my camera, and I mean it's it's
- 13:36Speaker 2: almost got the word that it's not even worth going
- 13:39Speaker 2: in their hunting anymore, especially for hogs. It might turn
- 13:43Speaker 2: out better for deer next year, but this year, no hogs. No, No,
- 13:50Speaker 2: not deer or anything. And and all of that started,
- 13:55Speaker 2: you know, once I saw that orb or ball, a light,
- 13:57Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, and started finding the
- 14:01Speaker 2: bigfoot stuff. Before then, I never had a problem with anything.
- 14:06Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of my main hunting areas
- 14:11Speaker 2: because usually when I find a place that the bigfoots are,
- 14:16Speaker 2: I tried to leave that and not hunted, you know
- 14:19Speaker 2: what I mean. Yeah, that way I can I don't.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Have to.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Worry about accidentally shooting one or something, you know who
- 14:31Speaker 2: knows what. Of course that was that place, and then
- 14:37Speaker 2: another place I went in and I'd killed a couple
- 14:41Speaker 2: of deer, and I've never never i'd hunted there, but
- 14:47Speaker 2: I hadn't really thought about doing any squatching. And I'm
- 14:51Speaker 2: setting up every one years in December and the fog
- 14:59Speaker 2: and cloud and sat down on top of the mountain.
- 15:00Speaker 2: I'm at the very top of the mountain, and I
- 15:03Speaker 2: can say about twenty yards from me and up on
- 15:06Speaker 2: the ridge behind me, I hear something trying to sound
- 15:10Speaker 2: like a crow. And I can tell by the way
- 15:13Speaker 2: it was trying to do that it wasn't.
- 15:15Speaker 1: A crow, right and right. I've heard this before. They
- 15:17Speaker 1: like the mimic animals. Yes, yeah.
- 15:20Speaker 2: And another thing was many years as I've been going
- 15:25Speaker 2: up there, I've been hunting it quite a bit. But
- 15:28Speaker 2: we went up our lot as kids while Daddy was
- 15:32Speaker 2: fishing and that kind of stuff, But I never have
- 15:34Speaker 2: heard a crow. Apart to this day, I still have
- 15:37Speaker 2: not heard a So as soon as I heard that
- 15:40Speaker 2: that one mimic and a crow, I knew something wasn't right,
- 15:44Speaker 2: and so I got my buddy Dwight Campbell to go
- 15:49Speaker 2: with me, and we went in and we found where
- 15:54Speaker 2: that where it was where the call had come from.
- 15:57Speaker 2: They had went in behind the roll of laurels and
- 16:00Speaker 2: pushed them over and made them my headgerow, and all
- 16:04Speaker 2: along the top of that ridge. They could stay behind
- 16:07Speaker 2: those laurels and we see everything and see everybody and
- 16:11Speaker 2: everything that comes in. And that actually turned in to
- 16:16Speaker 2: be one of my best squashing places. I've got some
- 16:21Speaker 2: video this year. I've got a camera up between eleven
- 16:27Speaker 2: and twelve feet high, and this big higher yarn comes
- 16:30Speaker 2: in under it and pulls it around the tree.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Wow, did.
- 16:36Speaker 2: We have for some reason they do not like me
- 16:40Speaker 2: putting my camera on that On that game trail I had.
- 16:45Speaker 2: I had the cameras on each side of the tree.
- 16:47Speaker 2: This one the game trail come in from the side
- 16:49Speaker 2: and went this way. Well, this camera always got moved.
- 16:54Speaker 2: I put it up high to pull it down low,
- 16:57Speaker 2: turn it around the tree, do whatever. The one on
- 16:59Speaker 2: the childly wouldn't touch.
- 17:02Speaker 1: Wow, I thought, how from the resid the from the
- 17:06Speaker 1: Cherokee Reservation.
- 17:09Speaker 2: I can be over Iron in about thirty forty minutes,
- 17:13Speaker 2: five minutes.
- 17:16Speaker 1: I'm not that far because you around something.
- 17:20Speaker 2: Yeah, as those saying that crowd flies, I can be
- 17:24Speaker 2: over there, pretty quale.
- 17:25Speaker 1: And this all started for you the first time you
- 17:30Speaker 1: spoke to me a year and a half ago or
- 17:31Speaker 1: before that.
- 17:32Speaker 2: No, all of this that I'm telling you now has.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Been since then, since then, and you think since so
- 17:40Speaker 1: you've become interested in it because for some reason they're
- 17:43Speaker 1: interested in you somehow, or you're just in the place
- 17:47Speaker 1: where they are because of I don't know. It's it's
- 17:49Speaker 1: it's always an interesting thing, how like certain people can
- 17:52Speaker 1: go into the woods for all their lives and never
- 17:54Speaker 1: see anything he or anything nothing, And then there's other
- 17:56Speaker 1: people like yourself and many others, many others them that
- 17:59Speaker 1: go in there and it just seems to be like,
- 18:01Speaker 1: you know, it's just you can't. You're trying to even
- 18:04Speaker 1: to avoid them, and you're still running across them. That's incredible.
- 18:08Speaker 4: And another place that me and my dad hunted, and
- 18:14Speaker 4: all these places I've been hunting since I was growing up,
- 18:18Speaker 4: you know, growed up hunting them with Daddy and all
- 18:20Speaker 4: of that stuff.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Well, we pull up to another one. Never never have
- 18:24Speaker 2: seen a big foot in there whatsoever. Pull up, we're
- 18:28Speaker 2: sating there and it's in the gap of the mountain.
- 18:30Speaker 2: The parking place is so we always get there early,
- 18:33Speaker 2: was gonna go squirrel hunting, and we rolled their window
- 18:37Speaker 2: down to see if the wind was blowing. So we're
- 18:39Speaker 2: sating there with the wind down, and Daddy turned to
- 18:44Speaker 2: me and said, man, your bellies tore up this morning.
- 18:47Speaker 2: And I said, no, my belly fine. Why he said,
- 18:52Speaker 2: I'm afraid of that. He said, something just growled at us.
- 18:56Speaker 2: And so when it got daylight and we started out
- 18:59Speaker 2: through there, it had to been the night before because
- 19:04Speaker 2: there was green, fresh breaks and breaking stuff into the
- 19:09Speaker 2: road and below the road, about fifteen yards below the
- 19:14Speaker 2: road about ever, I'd say not twenty yet, about every
- 19:21Speaker 2: twenty yards was a fresh tree break going all the
- 19:25Speaker 2: way around the road, right into where I hunt at, so.
- 19:29Speaker 1: That you around, you around.
- 19:32Speaker 2: Honestly was because like I said, I'd hunted in there
- 19:37Speaker 2: a lot, and there's never been any signing there, and
- 19:43Speaker 2: so all of that we sort of kept, you know,
- 19:47Speaker 2: just down our brain, and it's still like it. There's
- 19:51Speaker 2: they're still signing there. Now another place right across from
- 19:56Speaker 2: the road from it. I thought, okay, since Chun's are
- 19:59Speaker 2: over here, I'll across the road, I get up there,
- 20:02Speaker 2: get into where I hunt that up there, and it
- 20:06Speaker 2: had growed up quite a bit because I hadn't been
- 20:08Speaker 2: in there in a long time. And I get up
- 20:11Speaker 2: there and hunt, and I get ready to go, and
- 20:12Speaker 2: I thought, well, while I'm leaving, I might as well
- 20:14Speaker 2: just clear me a new trailer out so the next
- 20:17Speaker 2: time I come, I can sneak in and I'm breaking
- 20:21Speaker 2: limbs and all of that stuff, and I get grabbed
- 20:24Speaker 2: at over there. You have got to be a kidding,
- 20:29Speaker 2: you know. And even I know this sounds crazy, but
- 20:33Speaker 2: my boy told me. He said, Daddy, there's a turkey
- 20:37Speaker 2: at a place we called the dove field. Said there's
- 20:40Speaker 2: a this a couple of years ago during turkey seeing.
- 20:44Speaker 2: He said, there's a turkey down there. I can't get
- 20:47Speaker 2: it to come to me. I've got to hunt. So
- 20:49Speaker 2: you sneak in down there and kill it, he said,
- 20:51Speaker 2: because it sounds like it's a big And I said, okay.
- 20:54Speaker 2: So I got up go down there. There's one parking
- 20:59Speaker 2: area to get in there. I get to the there's
- 21:03Speaker 2: four fields in a row, and the very backfield is
- 21:06Speaker 2: the one we called the dove field. And I get
- 21:09Speaker 2: to the third field and it's that time of morning
- 21:12Speaker 2: to worry that you can start seeing a little bit,
- 21:16Speaker 2: but the turkeys are still on the roost and that
- 21:18Speaker 2: kind of stuff, okay, And I get whistled at, and
- 21:22Speaker 2: I'm like, no, not down here. We've never seen no sign,
- 21:28Speaker 2: We've never nothing down here. So I keep walking and
- 21:36Speaker 2: it does it again, and then it's between me and
- 21:40Speaker 2: the river. It's on the river bank, in the cane thicket,
- 21:43Speaker 2: and it followed me until it got I guess they
- 21:47Speaker 2: lied enough for it to see what I was. And
- 21:51Speaker 2: then the whistling quit. The turkey never gobbled it all
- 21:55Speaker 2: that day. It never troubles And I've had them do that.
- 22:01Speaker 2: When they hear a bigfoot whoop or whistle or something,
- 22:03Speaker 2: they'll shut up right that. That never never made a
- 22:08Speaker 2: peak the rest of the day. So it seems like
- 22:12Speaker 2: I keep running into him, even though I don't want
- 22:14Speaker 2: to run into them.
- 22:15Speaker 1: It could also be it could also be timed that
- 22:17Speaker 1: their populations are increasing there, or or that there's some
- 22:23Speaker 1: type of who knows, Because we know the world is
- 22:26Speaker 1: a crazy place. It's gotten crazier since we've been alive.
- 22:30Speaker 1: You know. You and I remember the Cold War, and
- 22:33Speaker 1: you know the fall to Berlin Wall. I remember all that,
- 22:35Speaker 1: and now you know, the world's getting a little bit,
- 22:38Speaker 1: you know, weird, and something is happening. Whatever that may be.
- 22:42Speaker 1: It could be biblical. I don't know, it could be.
- 22:46Speaker 1: I mean, do you think the government knows about these things?
- 22:49Speaker 2: Oh?
- 22:51Speaker 1: Okay.
- 22:53Speaker 2: When I was on the show Finding Bigfoot, there was
- 22:58Speaker 2: a guy come out to pre him interview me. I
- 23:03Speaker 2: guess he come out to say if I was a
- 23:05Speaker 2: nut or not to be honest with you. But he
- 23:08Speaker 2: come out and I took him around and showed him
- 23:13Speaker 2: my buddy's property that's fact when my buddy was still alive.
- 23:16Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, you've definitely got big foots on
- 23:20Speaker 2: his property. And I gave him a limb that i'd
- 23:24Speaker 2: cut that had taken a laurel of limb that was
- 23:27Speaker 2: about that big reunm and just twisted it open like
- 23:31Speaker 2: that and laid it, laid the whole thing across from
- 23:35Speaker 2: the trail going up to my stand, and I had
- 23:40Speaker 2: to take a saw in there and cut it cut
- 23:42Speaker 2: it off, and I thought, well, I'm just gonna keep that.
- 23:45Speaker 2: And I showed that to him and he said, do
- 23:47Speaker 2: you mind if I borrow that? And I said no,
- 23:49Speaker 2: you're more welcome. He said, I'll get it back to you,
- 23:52Speaker 2: he said. But him and a friend of his was
- 23:56Speaker 2: getting ready to have to speak to the Forest Service
- 24:00Speaker 2: about them, and he said, we want to use this
- 24:03Speaker 2: as a teaching aid to show them some of the
- 24:06Speaker 2: stuff to look for. So I definitely know that they
- 24:11Speaker 2: know about.
- 24:12Speaker 1: The Forest Service. You're talking about like you're talking about
- 24:15Speaker 1: like the National Forest.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Service, National Forest Service.
- 24:18Speaker 1: Yeap, that's interesting. And he wanted to use it as
- 24:22Speaker 1: a teaching aid so that they know. So so that
- 24:25Speaker 1: means they're getting some type of information from the higher ups.
- 24:29Speaker 1: Know about these things, learn about these things, learn about
- 24:31Speaker 1: the science from these things that maybe they can do
- 24:35Speaker 1: what what do you think, say like safety for the
- 24:37Speaker 1: public or I.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Think it is And to keep it head more. The
- 24:43Speaker 2: one area that is my main research area, there's a
- 24:48Speaker 2: campground there, and that campground used to always stay open
- 24:54Speaker 2: all through deer season. Yeah, I mean it would stay
- 24:58Speaker 2: open until about the first of January. And now there's
- 25:06Speaker 2: a lot more reports and sightings come out of that area,
- 25:11Speaker 2: and now they close it before. Uh the said, never
- 25:17Speaker 2: ever it before the gun season never gets.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Started, right, and the gun seasons what after Thanksgiving? Right? Yep?
- 25:27Speaker 1: Right at this is what it used to be. I'm
- 25:29Speaker 1: from Maryland, so it's been many many years. That's so.
- 25:32Speaker 1: How many times have you have you had visual contact
- 25:36Speaker 1: with other than the time that they ran away from you?
- 25:37Speaker 2: In all fours, I have actually seen five of them.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Okay.
- 25:43Speaker 2: The first one, men Dwight Campbell, was walking in to
- 25:46Speaker 2: lonird research areas and we could smell it and we
- 25:53Speaker 2: stopped and was talking about it, and it it was
- 25:56Speaker 2: one of them typical days from being puts around old birds,
- 26:00Speaker 2: those squirrels. Everything's dead and quiet, and we stopped because
- 26:05Speaker 2: we could smell it. And we're standing there talking about it,
- 26:07Speaker 2: and I'm looking over his shoulder into a clearcut that
- 26:11Speaker 2: had growed up something pretty thick, and I see something
- 26:14Speaker 2: just move just I mean just a quick flip. And
- 26:19Speaker 2: I told him, I said, something moving in that clear
- 26:22Speaker 2: cut and was watching the no birds of flying, you know,
- 26:27Speaker 2: no twee birds or nothing. And we keep standing there and.
- 26:33Speaker 1: It does.
- 26:34Speaker 2: In a few minutes, it does it again, and I said,
- 26:37Speaker 2: something is definitely moving in that in that clear cut,
- 26:41Speaker 2: And so he takes his camera and zooms in and
- 26:45Speaker 2: just does a slow video. And when he got home,
- 26:49Speaker 2: he sent me a picture back out of that video,
- 26:52Speaker 2: and it's behind a bit. We found the bottom of
- 26:54Speaker 2: dirt that it was behind, and it's peeking over it,
- 26:57Speaker 2: and it's got a big bright green leaf across its
- 27:00Speaker 2: forehead here and a stick coming up through here trying
- 27:04Speaker 2: to hide. But you can see it size socket. You
- 27:07Speaker 2: can see the bridge of its nose coming out from
- 27:10Speaker 2: side that stick. You can see the top of the
- 27:12Speaker 2: head coming up to a point and everything. So that
- 27:16Speaker 2: was the very first one I ever saw. The one
- 27:19Speaker 2: that took off running was the second one I saw.
- 27:24Speaker 2: The third one me and Dwight was over in Cage's cove,
- 27:30Speaker 2: and no, the third one I saw up at the
- 27:35Speaker 2: area where the one that sounded done the pro call.
- 27:39Speaker 2: It was on the first day of December in twenty
- 27:44Speaker 2: twenty two, the best I remember. I know it was
- 27:48Speaker 2: on the first day of December. That part I remember
- 27:51Speaker 2: without a doubt. But I went into my area and
- 27:57Speaker 2: changed all my audio recorders, out cam, my trail cams,
- 28:01Speaker 2: all of that, and I was walking back out and
- 28:04Speaker 2: this and O was a It was a new clear
- 28:07Speaker 2: cut then, and I thought, why might as well there
- 28:11Speaker 2: hunt till dark because I had my gun when stuff
- 28:13Speaker 2: with me and I looked down at the bottom of
- 28:15Speaker 2: clear cut and see some big horn trees where some
- 28:18Speaker 2: big bucks had been. I thought, well, I'd just sit
- 28:20Speaker 2: right here on this log pile and set here till
- 28:24Speaker 2: dark and see if those come in in to those
- 28:29Speaker 2: scrapes and horn trees. And I'm setting there, been sitting
- 28:32Speaker 2: there by the iron, and I read my Bible. I
- 28:37Speaker 2: had my Bible on my phone and i'd read back
- 28:40Speaker 2: for an iron and I put it up and I thought,
- 28:45Speaker 2: something's watching me. And I turned around and there's one
- 28:49Speaker 2: up on the hill behind me, and I can see everything,
- 28:52Speaker 2: but it's right shoulder. I can see from its right shoulder,
- 28:56Speaker 2: its head, its face, all the way up, everything else,
- 29:01Speaker 2: both legs, everything. I just couldn't see that right arm
- 29:03Speaker 2: and shoulder. And I turned around and look at it
- 29:07Speaker 2: and it's around one hundred yards away from me, and
- 29:10Speaker 2: I'm looking at it and it's looking at me, and
- 29:13Speaker 2: I keep looking at it and it's just stand there
- 29:16Speaker 2: looking at me. And I thought, then, you know, after
- 29:21Speaker 2: I realized what I was looking at, then the brain
- 29:23Speaker 2: goes off, well, try to get a picture of it.
- 29:25Speaker 2: So I got my phone out and there's an iPhone
- 29:28Speaker 2: and I had just switched, so I couldn't get it
- 29:31Speaker 2: to zoom in and do what I wanted, so I
- 29:34Speaker 2: throwed it down, and I thought, well, i'll just pick
- 29:39Speaker 2: my gun up because i'm watching it like this over
- 29:41Speaker 2: my shoulder, and I thought, I'll grab my gun and
- 29:46Speaker 2: look through the skull and then that way I can
- 29:48Speaker 2: get a real detailed look at its head as soon
- 29:52Speaker 2: as I put my hand on my gun, before I
- 29:54Speaker 2: ever picked my gun up, but as soon as it
- 29:56Speaker 2: see me put my hands on my gun, it stepped
- 29:59Speaker 2: behind the tree that was beside and all I could
- 30:04Speaker 2: see was it left shoulder. And I sat there and
- 30:09Speaker 2: I looked at it and looked at it, and all
- 30:11Speaker 2: I could see was that shoulder, and I thought, well,
- 30:14Speaker 2: I don't want it to think I'm going to shoot it.
- 30:16Speaker 2: So I put my gun down, but it still wouldn't move,
- 30:21Speaker 2: and I thought, well, dog gone. You know I can't
- 30:24Speaker 2: get it. I want that picture and I can't. I'm
- 30:27Speaker 2: running look at it, and I thought, well, i'll just
- 30:32Speaker 2: leave it alone. And I started watching it just over
- 30:36Speaker 2: my shoulder, just nonchalantly, not looking right at it, and
- 30:42Speaker 2: it went from standing on two feet down to all
- 30:46Speaker 2: fours on its belly and started army crawling, and it
- 30:49Speaker 2: crawled from one clump of trees to another clump, looked
- 30:54Speaker 2: at me and, like I said, I'm just sort of
- 30:57Speaker 2: watching it down my rill flow. And because that time
- 31:01Speaker 2: of year, the woods was wide open other than and everything,
- 31:06Speaker 2: and so I can see it moving. And once it
- 31:10Speaker 2: does that, it stays down, but it keeps crawling back
- 31:14Speaker 2: across the ridge there that it was on. And when
- 31:18Speaker 2: it started going away from me, I turned around and
- 31:20Speaker 2: watched it, and that left when I could see exactly
- 31:23Speaker 2: what it was doing. And it done that back across
- 31:27Speaker 2: over into my.
- 31:28Speaker 1: Research area, not even making a sound, not making them
- 31:32Speaker 1: sound nothing. It's so interesting, like they can sense, they
- 31:36Speaker 1: can sense when you're going to do something. They can
- 31:38Speaker 1: sense when that phone's coming up. They know everything. Now
- 31:41Speaker 1: what I've heard. Now, I talk to a gentleman named
- 31:45Speaker 1: Tom Cantrell, Tom Control. He's friends with Bob Gimlin. Okay,
- 31:50Speaker 1: so of course you know Patterson Gimblin. And he said,
- 31:52Speaker 1: the best way to do it is just like you
- 31:54Speaker 1: were doing. You were doing it accidentally. You just kind
- 31:57Speaker 1: of skid in the woods. He sits in his little
- 31:58Speaker 1: lawn chair, tikes his diapepsio. He's read the book, Bible, whatever.
- 32:03Speaker 1: Just minding your business, doing your own thing, and that's
- 32:05Speaker 1: when they want to come out. That's when they want
- 32:08Speaker 1: to come out.
- 32:09Speaker 2: That is Honestly, I have had more encounters while I'm
- 32:15Speaker 2: hunting than I have while I'm squatching. And that ain't
- 32:18Speaker 2: no joke. I mean as far as them seeing on
- 32:22Speaker 2: them throwing rocks, hadn't me. Now, my buddy, my buddy, George,
- 32:28Speaker 2: they like throwing rocks at him, but to me.
- 32:32Speaker 1: Because you like to charge him. Remember he was up
- 32:35Speaker 1: there with Harley and they ran out the damn thing. Yes, George,
- 32:40Speaker 1: what you do that for you? Because I wanted to
- 32:41Speaker 1: see it. That's that's George.
- 32:49Speaker 2: We was up in the place where the orb was
- 32:53Speaker 2: and when we knew it was being followed, and we're
- 32:58Speaker 2: standing there and Rob Effler he picked up.
- 33:02Speaker 1: Robert Efler, thank you. That was the name that I
- 33:05Speaker 1: couldn't remember. Robert Effler, Thank you.
- 33:11Speaker 2: An old stick. He's gonna make him walking stick. But
- 33:13Speaker 2: it had a rootball on the end of it, so
- 33:17Speaker 2: he writers back, gonna break at root ball. Well, George frates,
- 33:21Speaker 2: it's going to hit him in the gold nads. So
- 33:23Speaker 2: he covers hisself and Rob hits it and it actually
- 33:27Speaker 2: does wood not And we're standing there life and because
- 33:31Speaker 2: they thought of something awful mountain monsters where one of
- 33:35Speaker 2: them got hitting the gold nads and so but them
- 33:39Speaker 2: two got the life. And well here comes rock right
- 33:43Speaker 2: by George's head. And we get going on up in there,
- 33:48Speaker 2: and I tell them about the story about me sat
- 33:54Speaker 2: down because it takes about an iron high to walk
- 33:56Speaker 2: into this place and the laurel thicket where the stick
- 34:04Speaker 2: was stuck through. When I come out the other side,
- 34:06Speaker 2: I set down and a rock come over my head
- 34:09Speaker 2: and landed out in the clear cut. And we just
- 34:12Speaker 2: had got there, and I said, right, here's where I
- 34:14Speaker 2: was setting. And we're standing our talking, and here comes
- 34:18Speaker 2: a rock by George's head and it wasn't mobbed. I
- 34:21Speaker 2: mean it had some it had some zing to it,
- 34:25Speaker 2: and it missed his head by that much.
- 34:28Speaker 1: Yeah, they're upset about something.
- 34:30Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't like George.
- 34:32Speaker 1: I'm speaking because they remember because I speak to a
- 34:35Speaker 1: lot of the Native Americans, like I'm talking like medicine women.
- 34:39Speaker 1: I'm talking like very like lass of kind kind of
- 34:43Speaker 1: people who talk about these things. And they're saying, if
- 34:45Speaker 1: they they'll remember you, if George had that, I need
- 34:48Speaker 1: to see this run out. They they all know who
- 34:51Speaker 1: he is. And if you're hunting, when you're hunting is
- 34:55Speaker 1: when you get the semi aggressive behavior, the rock throwing
- 34:58Speaker 1: and stuff.
- 34:58Speaker 2: Right well, to me, it's not been aggressive. It was
- 35:03Speaker 2: just like the one that I remember the most. The
- 35:09Speaker 2: first one hit about fifty yards out front me and
- 35:13Speaker 2: I'm sitting there bowl hunting. Daddy's in another spot, and
- 35:19Speaker 2: I thought that sounded like a rock, and all the
- 35:23Speaker 2: aprons was off the trees. It was in November. All
- 35:26Speaker 2: the aprons was done and down. And I'm sitting there
- 35:30Speaker 2: and I don't know if you ever noticed when you're
- 35:34Speaker 2: out squatching, but for some reason, and I honestly don't
- 35:39Speaker 2: know what it is, but you can catch that rock
- 35:42Speaker 2: coming through the aira for some reason, I don't know,
- 35:45Speaker 2: but it seems like you're drawing to it. So I
- 35:49Speaker 2: turned to look and I say it hit and roll,
- 35:51Speaker 2: And I thought, okay, well, I'm just going to sit
- 35:54Speaker 2: here and say how close they'll throw it. So I
- 35:57Speaker 2: sat there. In a few minutes, it hits about thirty yards,
- 36:00Speaker 2: and it hits about twenty yards about ten yards and
- 36:02Speaker 2: then the life one hit about six eight inchers from
- 36:05Speaker 2: my foot, not hard. Just logged in and I got
- 36:09Speaker 2: on the phone and called Daddy and I told him.
- 36:11Speaker 2: I said, well, they're throwing rocks and it's time for
- 36:14Speaker 2: me to go. And that's how they would do when
- 36:17Speaker 2: when it was time for me to go, they'd love
- 36:20Speaker 2: a few rocks.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Have you ever tried I don't know, this might be
- 36:23Speaker 1: in your in your character as a person, but have
- 36:25Speaker 1: you ever tried like talking to them?
- 36:28Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually I do. My main area is that I squatched.
- 36:33Speaker 2: Now we've got one that me and missus Rachel have.
- 36:39Speaker 2: She nicknamed it Woody because it likes the manic mimic
- 36:43Speaker 2: a woodpecker.
- 36:44Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting.
- 36:46Speaker 2: It If you can actually look this up on YouTube,
- 36:51Speaker 2: there's a silver backed gorilla that was taken to its
- 36:54Speaker 2: hands on its chest and it sounds like a woodpecker.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Okay, And.
- 37:00Speaker 2: We hear that, and it'll go from point A to
- 37:02Speaker 2: point B, and then it'll stop and it'll keep doing
- 37:05Speaker 2: that sound there until we get back. And then once
- 37:08Speaker 2: we get back to it, it'll do it back down
- 37:10Speaker 2: to point A and then we go back around the
- 37:13Speaker 2: road to the truck, and so she has named it
- 37:16Speaker 2: wood because it mimics a woodpecker, and and it it's
- 37:23Speaker 2: one of those that I think it knows who I am,
- 37:26Speaker 2: because we always I always turn around way by. I thought, Okay,
- 37:32Speaker 2: to some people that may be stupid, but no.
- 37:38Speaker 4: One.
- 37:38Speaker 2: You know, it hits your brain one time, and I'm like,
- 37:41Speaker 2: all right, guys, I'm going Thedians later. I'll come check
- 37:44Speaker 2: my stuff in a few weeks and just turn around,
- 37:48Speaker 2: walk out and then come back. And honest to goodness,
- 37:52Speaker 2: I think they know as well. I know they know
- 37:55Speaker 2: when I'm there. If even if they don't show themselves,
- 37:58Speaker 2: they still know I'm there. Because we got back to
- 38:03Speaker 2: the truck, I took George, and I think the old
- 38:06Speaker 2: gang was in there, me and George, and I can't
- 38:10Speaker 2: remember if Harley was or not, but I know men
- 38:12Speaker 2: George and Jerry was, and Robert. I'm not sure I
- 38:16Speaker 2: think Robert was. But We're sitting there and George is
- 38:20Speaker 2: sitting on tail gave my truck, taking his boots. I
- 38:22Speaker 2: was gonna put his tennis shoes back on, and he
- 38:26Speaker 2: looks and looks like that, and I'm like, what is it?
- 38:29Speaker 2: He said? I just sing something move and there was
- 38:34Speaker 2: one watching us load our stuff up into the truck.
- 38:39Speaker 2: And so we get we jump up and go over there.
- 38:43Speaker 2: And you could say they had a squire place built.
- 38:47Speaker 2: And why it was squire, I have no idea, but
- 38:50Speaker 2: they had a squire spot bill and you could sit
- 38:53Speaker 2: there and watch the truck. You could see vehicles going
- 38:56Speaker 2: up and down the road, that kind of stuff.
- 38:59Speaker 1: And you mean like it was like laid out with
- 39:01Speaker 1: like like timber or like a little stick or something
- 39:03Speaker 1: just like it.
- 39:06Speaker 2: Was probably five six feet squire and they just took
- 39:12Speaker 2: broke stuff off and laid it out like a squire.
- 39:16Speaker 1: And that's interesting. I haven't heard that one yet.
- 39:19Speaker 2: That's and once we found it, when we went back
- 39:25Speaker 2: to check on it the next time, then tore the parlor.
- 39:31Speaker 2: We found it.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Right, and they're like, what it is is that they
- 39:35Speaker 1: want you not to remember it. So it kind of
- 39:38Speaker 1: like go out of your mind because if it's such
- 39:40Speaker 1: a good point of like you know, visual reference to
- 39:42Speaker 1: see everything, then they're not going to want you to
- 39:45Speaker 1: know that. They know that. But now you know something
- 39:47Speaker 1: that it's interesting. It's like a little it's kind of
- 39:50Speaker 1: like a cat and mouse game going up there.
- 39:52Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, yeah.
- 39:54Speaker 1: Is anything drunk you as being? I mean, you're telling
- 39:57Speaker 1: me a bunch of really odd things. Is anything struck
- 39:59Speaker 1: you just out of the ordinary? That is just like
- 40:03Speaker 1: what did? I don't know how to even put this
- 40:05Speaker 1: into any any box of understanding.
- 40:08Speaker 2: There's been two things that have.
- 40:14Speaker 3: Up there, especially that that's God us wondering, and and
- 40:21Speaker 3: that's hearing metallic saunds man.
- 40:24Speaker 2: George was going in to change our stuff out. We
- 40:28Speaker 2: get just right behind the forest service gate, get up
- 40:31Speaker 2: behind it just a little bit out, yipping and yelling,
- 40:36Speaker 2: and they shut up in a big foot screens And
- 40:40Speaker 2: I told George, I said, well, this is going to
- 40:42Speaker 2: be pretty good because that's right where we're headed, that's
- 40:45Speaker 2: in our area. And he said yeah, and he said,
- 40:48Speaker 2: I said, hopefully we'll have some luck today. And we
- 40:52Speaker 2: get walking up through there, and on our right hand
- 40:55Speaker 2: side we hear something. It sounds like it honestly sounds
- 40:58Speaker 2: like on the loan and the wash tub or wash
- 41:05Speaker 2: pan and something beating the bottom of it with a
- 41:07Speaker 2: woods fund, ping ping ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping,
- 41:11Speaker 2: ping ping ping, and men, George is like, what in
- 41:15Speaker 2: the world, Because there's no campsites around her and where
- 41:20Speaker 2: it's at. They definitely ain't no campsites because it's out
- 41:23Speaker 2: in the middle of the woods. And we're the only
- 41:25Speaker 2: person parked at the parking area. And so we go
- 41:30Speaker 2: on and go do our stuff and we come back out.
- 41:33Speaker 2: And when we come back out, we get this area.
- 41:37Speaker 2: You walk through a big long clear cut and then
- 41:40Speaker 2: you go back into the woods, and that's where they
- 41:42Speaker 2: seem to stay the most. Well, we'd come out of
- 41:46Speaker 2: the woods and getting ready to start back in the
- 41:51Speaker 2: the clearcut area, and we hear it over on the
- 41:56Speaker 2: right side. Again, it was on the right side coming
- 41:59Speaker 2: in on our right side going out.
- 42:01Speaker 1: When we hear sounds, I mean, just to take a guess,
- 42:08Speaker 1: it's kind of like they're saying they're here and now
- 42:11Speaker 1: they're saying they're leaving. Yeah, I mean educated guess you
- 42:17Speaker 1: know that's that's oh yeah, And what the be banging
- 42:21Speaker 1: on so strange.
- 42:22Speaker 2: That's what I told George and the guys. I said,
- 42:27Speaker 2: that's going to be my mission in twenty six is
- 42:29Speaker 2: to find out what they are, what what you're making
- 42:34Speaker 2: the noise with. Okay, I'm my audio recorder. I have
- 42:40Speaker 2: One morning at about two thirty in the morning. It
- 42:43Speaker 2: sounds you just hear a big loud ting, like hitting
- 42:48Speaker 2: two hammerheads together. Okay, what in the world is in
- 42:53Speaker 2: the middle of the woods at two thirty in the morning.
- 42:55Speaker 2: That's going to make it sound like camera heads hidden?
- 43:02Speaker 1: Yeah, that is strange.
- 43:06Speaker 2: Men, George was coming out and I don't think this
- 43:09Speaker 2: was the same time. I think this was a different time.
- 43:12Speaker 2: We was coming out of there and the grass in
- 43:18Speaker 2: the in the clear cut they sold the road and grass,
- 43:22Speaker 2: so there's some rocks and stuff and under it. And
- 43:25Speaker 2: you know how it is when you walk in and
- 43:26Speaker 2: sometimes you're stump. You tell you here it. Yeah, well
- 43:31Speaker 2: I heard that and I turned I could tell it
- 43:34Speaker 2: behind me, and I turned around to check on George
- 43:36Speaker 2: to see if it failed. And he's going like that,
- 43:39Speaker 2: and I said, what's wrong? He said, whatever that was
- 43:43Speaker 2: went off by my ear? That that sound I heard
- 43:49Speaker 2: that went off right here right beside his ear and
- 43:54Speaker 2: almost knocked him to the ground with the pressure off
- 43:56Speaker 2: of it.
- 43:59Speaker 1: WHOA, that is weird, dude. That is more than weird. Yeah,
- 44:04Speaker 1: that that's like that Because I haven't I had Barber
- 44:07Speaker 1: Shope on. She has the one where it looks like
- 44:10Speaker 1: predator or it drops down out of the trees and
- 44:12Speaker 1: runs away, and she sees she's seen them. She said,
- 44:14Speaker 1: I've seen them disappear right in front of my eyes. Him. Yeah,
- 44:18Speaker 1: they have the ability to like do something with the environment,
- 44:21Speaker 1: or to cloak themselves or even be invisible at certain times.
- 44:26Speaker 1: They probably just they probably they really don't like Georgia,
- 44:30Speaker 1: seems like, because that seems awful.
- 44:33Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't like George for some reason. And it's
- 44:39Speaker 2: sort of funny. I don't everybody talks about. But I've
- 44:43Speaker 2: never had no problems at it. You know, we got
- 44:47Speaker 2: bluff charged one time, but that was because we got
- 44:50Speaker 2: between the mom and a little one.
- 44:52Speaker 1: And tell me about that. Tell me about that one.
- 44:54Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I was taken Robin Muncheda and Campbell into
- 45:02Speaker 2: a place me and my dad had walked around to
- 45:06Speaker 2: there and again one of them places were when there's
- 45:10Speaker 2: no big foot sign and nothing like that. And we
- 45:15Speaker 2: come back out and on a on a white pine
- 45:18Speaker 2: by the big rounds of a telephone pole, you see
- 45:21Speaker 2: a thumb where it went around this side and the
- 45:23Speaker 2: four fingers around this and it just pulled bark and
- 45:26Speaker 2: everything off while men and my dad was right around
- 45:29Speaker 2: the road because it wasn't now when we walked in,
- 45:34Speaker 2: we'd definitely seen it, and so I was taking Dwight
- 45:39Speaker 2: and robbing up there to see that. And we get
- 45:42Speaker 2: up and Hit goes off one side on the right
- 45:47Speaker 2: hand side and hollers at us when we start looking,
- 45:50Speaker 2: and we here would and knock over on that on
- 45:52Speaker 2: the right hand side of the road, and we found
- 45:56Speaker 2: some stuff, and then we come back up and we're
- 45:58Speaker 2: getting ready to walk out the old road that me
- 46:01Speaker 2: and Daddy was in, and all of a sudden, we
- 46:03Speaker 2: hear something coming off the ridge and I've never heard
- 46:09Speaker 2: them make that kind of noise before. I've heard them
- 46:11Speaker 2: do a lot of things, but this was just screams
- 46:15Speaker 2: and just weird stuff. And we're standing in there, like
- 46:20Speaker 2: what in the world's going on, you know, And it's
- 46:23Speaker 2: staying just out of side to where we can't see it.
- 46:25Speaker 2: And this was in January, and it's staying just out
- 46:30Speaker 2: of side to where we can't see it. Well, it
- 46:32Speaker 2: gets between us and our vehicles and it starts going,
- 46:40Speaker 2: but it's so loud your whole body's just shake it.
- 46:44Speaker 2: And that's the only time I've ever put my hand
- 46:47Speaker 2: on my pistol, and I put my hand on my
- 46:50Speaker 2: pistol because I thought, you know, I don't want to
- 46:55Speaker 2: shoot it, but I'll shoot it before too before it's
- 47:02Speaker 2: one of us. And so we just stand there and
- 47:06Speaker 2: luckily she goes on. And the reason I say she
- 47:09Speaker 2: is we dropped off down and father her where she went,
- 47:13Speaker 2: and we found a nest that was probably about it
- 47:18Speaker 2: two foot maybe three foot across, you know, that big
- 47:22Speaker 2: of a circle, and stuff had been woven together and
- 47:26Speaker 2: all of that, and we found some little tracks about
- 47:28Speaker 2: four inches long on the creek bank. So from the
- 47:33Speaker 2: best we could tell from where that nest was and work.
- 47:36Speaker 2: She first started making the noise. She was up on
- 47:39Speaker 2: the ridge hunting and was watching, and we just about
- 47:43Speaker 2: started in between her and the little one, and she
- 47:46Speaker 2: come off and got it and moved on with it.
- 47:50Speaker 1: Damn dude. So you're getting a whole ton of activity
- 47:52Speaker 1: out there.
- 47:53Speaker 2: Yeah. And the crazy thing is we done the South
- 47:59Speaker 2: Carolina Bigfoot Festival. We do that every year with either
- 48:03Speaker 2: n CEAI or sash Flackerycon they're both and this year
- 48:11Speaker 2: Brian Sawyer from American Bigfoots of America and Bigfoots of
- 48:18Speaker 2: Michigan podcasts. He come down to go with us, and
- 48:22Speaker 2: he joined up with us and done the festival with us. Well,
- 48:26Speaker 2: that Saturday night we was we left all our stuff
- 48:30Speaker 2: at my house because we thought, well, we don't want
- 48:34Speaker 2: all that stuff sitting in the car, you know, thousands
- 48:37Speaker 2: of dollars worth of equipment and somebody come through and
- 48:41Speaker 2: our pistols and all of that stuff, and so we
- 48:47Speaker 2: decided we'd just leave it here at the house. Well,
- 48:49Speaker 2: by the time we got through the festival and stopped
- 48:52Speaker 2: to get something deep, we was tired, and there's like,
- 48:56Speaker 2: let's just go instead of coming back out, let's just go.
- 49:00Speaker 2: And I said, well what about this, I said, I'll
- 49:02Speaker 2: take you up work. We got bluff charged dad. I said,
- 49:06Speaker 2: it's just eighty five yards from the truck and it
- 49:10Speaker 2: ain't that bad. I said, well just walk up there
- 49:12Speaker 2: and I can show you where it was at, show
- 49:15Speaker 2: you the location. And they said, yeah, that that'll work. Because,
- 49:19Speaker 2: like I said, we didn't have no pistols, we didn't
- 49:22Speaker 2: have no kind of fire arm. Luckily, we had some
- 49:26Speaker 2: flashlights and I give on the way everybody was in
- 49:32Speaker 2: my truck and on the way up there, I give
- 49:35Speaker 2: rob one of my flashlights because he's talking to his wife.
- 49:38Speaker 2: And I told him, I said, you talk to her
- 49:41Speaker 2: when you get done, just bran us this light and
- 49:46Speaker 2: come around the road because you probably say this from
- 49:48Speaker 2: the truck. And he said okay. So we step out
- 49:52Speaker 2: and as soon as we stepped out off to the
- 49:54Speaker 2: left around that road that I was just telling you
- 49:57Speaker 2: that I took Daddy on and we had bluff gard
- 50:01Speaker 2: we get to yell. As soon as we step out
- 50:03Speaker 2: of the truck and me taking people up there, I
- 50:10Speaker 2: was tickled to death because I was like, thank you Lord,
- 50:13Speaker 2: because now they know I'm not a neediot. They really
- 50:15Speaker 2: are as.
- 50:17Speaker 1: The thing, isn't it that that whole feeling that you're
- 50:20Speaker 1: having all these you know, all these experiences, it's kind
- 50:23Speaker 1: of regular, and then when you want to show somebody,
- 50:25Speaker 1: there's always that underlying fear like they're not gonna believe.
- 50:28Speaker 2: Me, yeah, and or or they ain't gonna we ain't
- 50:32Speaker 2: gonna see nothing, and you know what I mean. But
- 50:35Speaker 2: luckily it yelled and we're standing there talking about it yelling,
- 50:39Speaker 2: and it yells again, and we was where's all excited
- 50:43Speaker 2: because we've done got to yells and just stepped out
- 50:45Speaker 2: of the truck, and this is the first time I've
- 50:48Speaker 2: ever been in there after dark squatching. So we go
- 50:54Speaker 2: behind the gate and start walking around the road, and
- 50:58Speaker 2: we come where they have laid this small tree about
- 51:01Speaker 2: that background, laid it across the road and woke stuff
- 51:04Speaker 2: in on each end of it. And I took my
- 51:06Speaker 2: phone out and recorded all of it and made a video.
- 51:12Speaker 2: And we come back down on the road and we
- 51:14Speaker 2: go out and I show them where the before we
- 51:18Speaker 2: got bluff charged and all that, and we just happened
- 51:22Speaker 2: to shine the lights around and we found some trees,
- 51:25Speaker 2: three or four trees broke off about seven high, fake
- 51:28Speaker 2: foot high, and found a track about a fourteen inch
- 51:35Speaker 2: track in the leaves and that kind of stuff. So
- 51:38Speaker 2: you know, we're like, okay, well we've done pretty good.
- 51:41Speaker 2: And we'd killed probably twenty thirty minutes, and here comes
- 51:47Speaker 2: Robbed around the road. Well there's flashlights stock and I
- 51:51Speaker 2: hollered at him. I said, just come on around the
- 51:53Speaker 2: road and we'll we're gonna walk the main road around
- 51:58Speaker 2: a little bit. We'll meet you out there where this
- 52:01Speaker 2: skid row mats it. He hollered and said, y'all might
- 52:05Speaker 2: not want to do that. We ain't got nothing for him,
- 52:08Speaker 2: And we're thinking he didn't hear us, and I ain't
- 52:12Speaker 2: got nothing for who. Ain't nobody up here but us.
- 52:15Speaker 2: There's no houses around, we're the only vehicles sitting there.
- 52:19Speaker 2: And so we get out and he's coming around to
- 52:22Speaker 2: where we was at, and I told him, I said,
- 52:25Speaker 2: we're gonna just walk around here, just ride around the
- 52:29Speaker 2: curve here to where it opens up. Y'all might not
- 52:32Speaker 2: want to do that. We ain't got nothing for him,
- 52:34Speaker 2: I said, we ain't got nothing for who. He said
- 52:37Speaker 2: that six and a half foot dog man I just passed. Oh,
- 52:41Speaker 2: right right in front of my truck. There's a heel
- 52:44Speaker 2: right there, and the right past it is where the
- 52:52Speaker 2: heel comes down. There's a they used the bullet over
- 52:56Speaker 2: years ago and just pushed a small little spot right
- 52:58Speaker 2: flap spot right there. Well, that's where we heard the second,
- 53:02Speaker 2: the third yale come from. And Rob comes around to
- 53:07Speaker 2: there behind us, you know, twenty thirty minutes behind us.
- 53:11Speaker 2: When he gets there, he hears something turns and there's
- 53:17Speaker 2: a six six and a half foot dog man with
- 53:20Speaker 2: blue glowing eyes because of his flashlight hits it and
- 53:24Speaker 2: it takes off back down the mountain and we was like, well, yeah,
- 53:31Speaker 2: you know, we we ain't got we ain't got no
- 53:34Speaker 2: protection right and everything. So well just stays back to
- 53:38Speaker 2: the truck. Well, we start going back to the the
- 53:41Speaker 2: truck and Brian says, there's something coming out of where
- 53:45Speaker 2: we heard the calls when we first got out of
- 53:47Speaker 2: the truck on our left. It's now on our right.
- 53:50Speaker 2: And he said, there's something coming in behind us. So
- 53:55Speaker 2: we used on that there. Well, I look on the
- 53:57Speaker 2: hill above my truck and I see two orange eyes
- 54:01Speaker 2: are glowing, and I've never seen the eyes eye glow.
- 54:07Speaker 2: And to be honest, I didn't know if it was
- 54:09Speaker 2: real or not. But I always stayed open minded and
- 54:12Speaker 2: I said, if I ever witness it, then I'll talk
- 54:15Speaker 2: about it. So I'm looking at these two eyes are
- 54:20Speaker 2: going and it pitched black dort and I hollered at
- 54:24Speaker 2: the guys. I said, come here, I got eyes shine,
- 54:26Speaker 2: and they come over there. Well, I had the brightest headlamp,
- 54:30Speaker 2: and when I put my head lamp and shine on it,
- 54:33Speaker 2: it would turn its head. The best I could tell,
- 54:36Speaker 2: it would turn its head because the orange would disappear,
- 54:39Speaker 2: and then you could see when it comes back, you know,
- 54:42Speaker 2: see that orange. Yeah, And every time I take my
- 54:48Speaker 2: light off of it, it would start watching us. I
- 54:50Speaker 2: put my light on it and then turn its head.
- 54:53Speaker 2: So we're thinking, all right, we got this one in
- 54:57Speaker 2: front of us. The dog man just run off over
- 54:59Speaker 2: to left. We got one coming in behind us. And
- 55:03Speaker 2: I'm excited because I've never had an encounter after dark.
- 55:07Speaker 2: Everything I have ever done has been a daytime. So
- 55:11Speaker 2: I'm like a little school boy. I'm all excited. I'm
- 55:15Speaker 2: seeing I shine.
- 55:16Speaker 1: Would you? I mean, for me, I think they would
- 55:18Speaker 1: have the opposite effect. So you normally don't go out
- 55:21Speaker 1: a nighttime, or it's just never happened tonight.
- 55:23Speaker 2: It's just never happened. I've been out quite a bit
- 55:26Speaker 2: at night, but all my encounters has all been over day.
- 55:32Speaker 2: And so I'm like a little school boy because I
- 55:35Speaker 2: finally get to see what other people see. And you know,
- 55:39Speaker 2: and we're standing there talking about it, and up behind
- 55:43Speaker 2: my truck, on the ridge behind my truck, we hear
- 55:47Speaker 2: something trying to sound like a hoodel, but you can
- 55:51Speaker 2: tell it ain't a hoodel. And I know there's no
- 55:54Speaker 2: houses around. There's no house around there for a long
- 55:57Speaker 2: ways for miles, and we hear that behind the truck,
- 56:03Speaker 2: and so we keep easing that watching the one in
- 56:07Speaker 2: front of us, and we see it moving around and
- 56:09Speaker 2: all of that. And I told them, I said, well,
- 56:12Speaker 2: you stay behind me just a little bit. I'll go
- 56:15Speaker 2: out to my truck and crank it up and I'll
- 56:17Speaker 2: turn on my fog lots. I got a road bar
- 56:20Speaker 2: with some big heavy fog, and I'll like the one
- 56:24Speaker 2: that's up in front of us up because it'll light
- 56:28Speaker 2: the world up. And so they stayed behind me a
- 56:31Speaker 2: little bit.
- 56:31Speaker 1: Well, I get the.
- 56:32Speaker 2: Fooling with the one that's making the hooda noids behind
- 56:35Speaker 2: my truck, and I get to hollering back at it,
- 56:38Speaker 2: and it hollered, now hollered, and it hollered, now holler.
- 56:41Speaker 2: And I can tell it's coming down the ridge, and
- 56:44Speaker 2: and I've hunted in there enough to know that where
- 56:46Speaker 2: it stopped at it could see what was going on, okay,
- 56:49Speaker 2: And I'm standing there on my headlamp on the hollering
- 56:52Speaker 2: at it, and it would do it. And then I
- 56:57Speaker 2: guess they called up with me, because they come around
- 57:00Speaker 2: from in front of the truck around to the side
- 57:02Speaker 2: of where I was at. And as soon as it
- 57:04Speaker 2: saw them. It shut up. It never made another sound
- 57:08Speaker 2: at all. So we're standing there talking.
- 57:11Speaker 1: You know.
- 57:12Speaker 2: Now we're back at the safety of the truck. So
- 57:14Speaker 2: we're good. We're standing talking. And I told him, I said, well,
- 57:18Speaker 2: I tell you what, let's do. Let's go back down
- 57:20Speaker 2: the road about three hundred yards of the place to
- 57:23Speaker 2: pull off, and we'll see, you know, we'll see what's
- 57:27Speaker 2: going on if we can hear anything. And so we
- 57:31Speaker 2: get back down there and pull over, and right from
- 57:34Speaker 2: where we was at, it sounds like dodge a barking,
- 57:40Speaker 2: but it sounded like it sounded like I just came from, Yeah,
- 57:45Speaker 2: from exactly where we had the truck.
- 57:48Speaker 1: Part okay, and.
- 57:51Speaker 2: They was it was done. There was two different ones.
- 57:54Speaker 2: One was done a high pitch and the other one
- 57:58Speaker 2: was doing a low pitch. And you could tell it
- 58:01Speaker 2: wasn't a dog because it would do two halfway normal barks.
- 58:05Speaker 2: But on the third who at the end of it,
- 58:10Speaker 2: So we you know, we could tell where it was
- 58:13Speaker 2: coming from. We could tell that it wasn't dogs. And
- 58:16Speaker 2: another reason we knew it wasn't dogs. Was it done
- 58:19Speaker 2: the same repetitious every time, not like not like a
- 58:23Speaker 2: house dog bark.
- 58:25Speaker 1: It's kind of random, right, Yeah.
- 58:28Speaker 2: It was done the same three barks. Both of them
- 58:31Speaker 2: was the high pitched one would bark, the deep pitched
- 58:34Speaker 2: and bark. And it done that for probably five minutes.
- 58:39Speaker 2: And Rob said, hang on just a second, said let's
- 58:43Speaker 2: see what happens. And he stepped out and he said, guys,
- 58:47Speaker 2: he said, I can smell them, and he done a
- 58:51Speaker 2: whoo and done a real good whoop, and as soon
- 58:54Speaker 2: as he whooped, they shut up just like that. And
- 58:57Speaker 2: as far as I know, they still ain't made another
- 59:00Speaker 2: sam because they didn't. We set in there for a while,
- 59:03Speaker 2: that's if that's going to but as soon as he whoopd,
- 59:06Speaker 2: everything in there shut up.
- 59:08Speaker 1: Wow, it's incredible time. So what how's it? How does
- 59:12Speaker 1: this continue for you? What are you going to be
- 59:13Speaker 1: doing in the future. What should we be looking for
- 59:16Speaker 1: and where should we go to find out? Which what
- 59:18Speaker 1: it is that you're going to be doing?
- 59:20Speaker 2: Well, we've men my n CI guys. I get to
- 59:23Speaker 2: go out with them more than I do the Sasha
- 59:25Speaker 2: Sashquat Free Coon. They're further down in North Carolina, but
- 59:30Speaker 2: both teams are going to be going out. We're going
- 59:32Speaker 2: to be doing festivals. You can look at up that
- 59:36Speaker 2: up on our n c I on YouTube, it's in
- 59:39Speaker 2: c I and then the words spelled out North Carolina
- 59:43Speaker 2: Investigates and you'll find our channel there. And on TikTok
- 59:49Speaker 2: it's just playing O n c I and sasquat reecon
- 59:53Speaker 2: is both on the same on both places. So we're
- 59:57Speaker 2: trying to let people know where we're going and and
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: we're just gonna keep hitting the woods and keep trying
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: to get anxious.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have to get me in contact with
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: some of these other people. I'd love to talk to
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: him him. I really appreciate it. And also please do
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: me a favorite some of these links, so I can
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: you know that way people can find you guys, and
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: what you're doing, you're getting an incredible amount of action,
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: and uh, I wished about the that's the luck to
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: you trying to actually, you know, document this somehow and
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: try to figure out this, you know, because the mystery, Like, okay,
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: so the square is new for me, you know, the
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: the some of the calls, you know, they do make
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: different animal calls, but I've never heard the hoot al
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: for that's a new one for me. And that's why
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: I enjoy talking to people like you and many others.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: And I really appreciate you came on today, man, I
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: appreciate it.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: The one thing I'll tell you disrupt the hoot out call.
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: The funny thing was Friday night we left the Bigfoot
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: festival and we come up and we stopped at Burger
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: King and maybe Brian and his girlfriend had done in order.
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: Rob was on the phone with his wife because they've
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: got bigfoots on the property. And the one they called Junior.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: Robert.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob, Brian has just told me about being on
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: an expedition where they heard them sound to night whodelse?
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: And Rob come over and says, you ain't gonna believe this.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: Junior's at the house aggravating the old lady. She's out
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: at the goat barn milk, and then he's up in
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: the wood to holler like a wodel. So that I
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: mean Brian just had got it out of his mouth.
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: Rob gets off the phone and says it, and then
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: the very next night it does it up where we went.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: So are these are all these woods like somehow connected
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: to one another? They can kind of go through and
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: go through you to your house or just the far more.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: Uh, Brian Brian Sawyer. He lives in Michigan. Oh wow, okay, yeah,
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: and and Rob Heley about two and a high three
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: hours away from me.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: Okay, so that's weird. Yeah, that's a bit of a
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: radio coincidence, but it's something to definitely contemplate.
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, damn. Especially when we heard it that night
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: right behind the truck. It was like, uh no, that's
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: that's a push.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: At Tim as always, it's been a pleasure, man. Thank
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: you so much for coming on.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: Thank you sir, thank you for having me.
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