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Bears beatdown the Browns for 31-3 win, improve to 10-4 · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: The bears defeat the Cleveland Rounds 31-23.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You heard me right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 31-23.
0:05
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
0:07
[SPEAKER_01]: No plan down to the opponent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They beat them like a mule, unfortunate mule, but the mule was beaten.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Toil for us we need you to both sides of the box actually all three sides of the ball except for a miss bill go by Carl by Santos all right Devon do Renee did well with returning the ball and with two nice kickouts in the return Tory Taylor had a couple of nice punts Caleb looks sensational at times we'll get on the play to DJ and it ends on and let us know in the comments what you thought because the first it was like oh no
0:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was like, wait, he really thought it was like it looked like he intended it because you see how high was over the defenders, where DJ called it DJ was unleashed and given what he needs to succeed.
0:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yonder Swift was running like a man possessed with his juice and him cutting it to the edge.
1:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You had a lot of up the gut cutting to the edge.
1:04
[SPEAKER_01]: The defense were getting sex.
1:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, hey, you play who you were, you're given on your schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If a team is bad, you treat them like they bad.
1:12
[SPEAKER_01]: They bear to treat the Browns like a team.
1:14
[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to go deep into the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't play around with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see now,
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[SPEAKER_01]: When those funky packers bring their asses to the leg front, what they're gonna get next week, but we'll talk about that sometime this week, all right.
1:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we'll be back next week to laugh and joke and play as we deserve so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am Kim of Davis.
1:32
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the one the city podcast that man right there.
1:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You know him, man, the myth of legend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's Alex Shapiro.
1:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Alex, are you doing my guy?
1:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, what a, what a game.
1:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you all talk about complimentary football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about beat them like a mule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that's about as dominant as a performance as you'll see.
1:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that Eagles game was similarly dominant, but it's just another example of like responding to adversity, right?
1:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, last week was tough.
2:01
[SPEAKER_00]: That's an L that nobody wanted.
2:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a really tough L because you thought you had a chance to steal one in Lambo after not playing that great in the first half.
2:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, excuse me, I got some of that winter cold going around the world, yes, I had 102.5 fever yesterday.
2:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a metal miracle.
2:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at this rebound.
2:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at this rebound.
2:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I looked like 20 hours yesterday.
2:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm back.
2:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm back on my own two feet.
2:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you the only one sick is is your wife and kids sick?
2:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they fine?
2:32
[SPEAKER_00]: The kid got me sick
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's living a good life.
2:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So now I'm the one, but I'm getting better.
2:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So excuse me, if my voice is a little raspy, if I have some cops here and there, I'm just getting all choked up thinking about how the bears are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to leave the ground, but truly all three phases down and we've been down on special teams is your special teams was great, except for the Miss feel goal, but it's super tough in those conditions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like probably kicking like a bowling ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I imagine.
3:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb was sharp, defense was stifling.
3:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the number they did on the Browns offense was absurd.
3:17
[SPEAKER_00]: For most of that game, for the only portion of the game that mattered, they had held them to like three or four first downs, period, like period point blank.
3:28
[SPEAKER_00]: There were 10 defensive possessions.
3:31
[SPEAKER_00]: There were 10 defensive possessions.
3:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, here, let me count it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so 12 total, I've read this down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When it was 10 total, 12 total possessions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, two, three, four, five, six of those 12, half of them were three and outs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: three of them were interceptions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the last one was a turnover on downs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's kind of throw the last one out of there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's garbage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But nine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nine possessions you're ending with a three and out or an intersection.
4:11
[SPEAKER_00]: That's ludicrous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, what more can we say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was all three phases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was just all three phases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take it to the Cleveland Browns who just they didn't have any answers for anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Trudor had one of the worst games he's had since he's been starting in the barricade events.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've looked, this is a bad Browns team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to harp on the Browns too long, but three miles gear, and I don't know people would be like, he got paid, but it's terrible to have that career and mess around and play a Cleveland your whole entire life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And where are they going to trade them?
4:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you paying for it?
4:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You may as well get paid more.
4:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so I'm never hating on him getting the increase in brick, because people like, well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you look at it, I only have one negative and we'll get to it later.
5:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But when you look at the fact that Caleb, all right, let's go to Caleb, the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb was 17 of 28 for 242 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions and a QB rating of 112.5.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a pass rate.
5:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Not a QB rating, pass rate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb was dealing the way he had a couple of times he held on a little too long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as upset because there was no turnover from it, but he was willing to deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was making Miles Garrett a times look like a stooge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that one where he climbed and he ducked down and climbed and invaded to the left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Miles Garrett was bumbley behind him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And mind you, Miles Garrett is a generation of player.
5:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that's why I said it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and you saw that he almost got three sex in his game earlier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He nearly broke the record, he was.
5:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was all in the back of the record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess the rookie, but still one of the better offensive lines with the lead and a good offensive line coach in a good head coach when it comes, just probably trying to skim up to try to slow some one down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But a mouse gear ahead again, but Caleb had an even better game um, listen, the throw to DJ in the back of the end zone.
6:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote, oh my, he had DJ in the back of the inzone.
6:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why he tossed that over the top two browns defenders, was it reckless?
6:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And this was before we saw the back and you were taxing and you were like, are you basically live?
6:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I saw that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you see it from up close front side and you see how it was over the browns to finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it could have been a turnover perhaps, but it didn't look like he did that accidentally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, it looked like, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, he was slinging it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, let me go get this crazy touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That, that I do, and then look, initially you've thought it's perhaps going to throw it away and for him to pull that off and you have that type of gunslinger, who can evade?
6:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Who is growing?
6:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, his completions have to grow, but you see the specialness and you see the adjustments with getting rid of the ball while put within playing more in structure every week and it's benefiting them.
7:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sometimes you need a bad team to get you going.
7:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And they did a bad play terrible last year with last week, rather, but also that's coming off of game went losing an exception last week, right?
7:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and I don't think none of us think thought that it was going to.
7:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He was going to play down to it was going to be stuck in the city because he doesn't come off like that type of player, but for him to have that type of game.
7:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It was they could have pulled him out after the third, you know, like it would have been easy with how the defense was playing against the Browns.
7:34
[SPEAKER_01]: and how the Browns run and the Bears also, and again, you got a rookie quarterback who hasn't been starting a lot during the season, didn't get a lot of hit at any reps.
7:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But they shed their acquistion junks, junks, junks, junks, junks, junks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They shut them down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And believe me, I know because he's on my fantasy team.
7:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and look, of all the times when they could have just let a guy eat a little bit mind you, I did have the bear seat.
7:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Let him get a garbage time score.
7:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted a garbage CD, right?
8:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I just needed that.
8:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But I had the bear's defense too, because I was like, I know the bear's defense is going to get turned open to date.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yes, you did it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still, I'm only like, I only got like nine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a nine point that I may win this right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nine to the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, to the agency to the who can see right now right who I don't even you don't everybody I'm listening to this isn't about okay.
8:29
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't about me as he goes to look at it This is about this isn't about me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is about the bears victory on the run game What what did you have to say about Caleb?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm I'm I'm transitioned because I'm like
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[SPEAKER_01]: the mean to run.
8:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, Caleb was spectacular.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That throw just to we talked we talked about it a lot and it's one of the things I think is one of Caleb Williams best qualities that we have not seen in Chicago for some time when the teaching was don't turn the ball over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take care of the football right that was what was being hammered home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take care of the football is that so many Chicago quarterbacks were reluctant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to attack those super tight windows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were reluctant to go for those home run balls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were reluctant to give their wider severs a chance when it's like, man, maybe shouldn't throw that ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he is not reluctant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has repeatedly challenged those tight windows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Made those incredibly insane throws in super super tight windows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And often comes through, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that throw worked out.
9:42
[SPEAKER_00]: The throw to Olamida's Akiya's last week, the long two weeks ago, along the side of the end zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, those throws are special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those throws are
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[SPEAKER_00]: dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they turn into bears touchdowns a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they turn into explosive plays for the bears a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that he can do this all without throwing so many intersections is unbelievable.
10:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams that made 31 starts.
10:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He's made 31 starts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's still pretty young in his career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And those 31 starts, he's only thrown 12 intersections.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right for a young QB guys who are known for turning the ball over because they make mistakes, they get confused, you know, with defensive coverages.
10:27
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw the bears do that to shatter right, they did something where they confuse them and baited them into throwing a pack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These things happen to young quarterback all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that he is both really good at not really throwing turnovers that much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know the one last week against the Packers just sticks out like a sore fun, sore thumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But 12 interceptions in 31 starts combined with his like gunslinging attitude and his big playmaking and his deep shots, it's extremely remarkable to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He now owns the record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was first 1000 passes for the fewest interceptions in NFL history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, fewest interceptions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Bury, you know, you had a first 1000 passes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has the record with the fewest interceptions with only 12 interceptions over foot 1000 and rookie.
11:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well, two years now.
11:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that usually, however, that's when you have some passes.
11:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but that's usually when you are the worst when it comes to protecting the ball, right, right in your first couple of seasons or whatever, you may have an off year, but usually you have to adjust to protecting the ball.
11:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm about some guys are innate, which clearly Caleb is and the funny thing is he's a risk taker, like this is not, you don't have to call it that.
11:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and think about it initially starting off with New England, they weren't going to let them move the bill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other second wasn't letting them sit there and put the ball in a precarious situation.
11:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But for him to be a gunslinger as you mentioned earlier through the text and for only have 12 and exceptions in two seasons when a guy that you're using and he's not a guy that's a game manager.
12:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It speaks to him and some of his innate abilities.
12:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb still has flaws, but he has innate abilities to not get sac when guys have both hands on him.
12:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He can break free.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a courses scrambleer.
12:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He has one of the better arms when it comes to whip different platforms that he's throwing off of and what he can do with the ball.
12:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He's special, it just has to grow with them playing in the clock and structure,
12:32
[SPEAKER_01]: again, you know, with the bears teams in the first season of Ben Johnson's tenure here and you already have 10 wins.
12:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about
12:42
[SPEAKER_01]: George Hollis, all right, pop a bear and Matt Nagy with the only bear's coaches in the first year along with now Ben Johnson to get 10 victories in the first time that first season coach in the bears.
12:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And take out Matt Nagy, I feel like this is going to have some some more stuff, because at least George Hollis said championships and they have superboats, they didn't have the marketing, but they had championships back then.
13:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is again, and I let Alex go,
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is so good because it doesn't feel not knowing people get tired of it.
13:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That is built on a bass lab.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's built on something for real that you can see next year, if they're not hurt, that they can grow and they can build on.
13:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, the holes have been fixed, that there's fewer things you have to do in this offseason and freedom seeing the draft to really make this team this team.
13:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know around here we get tired of it when sometimes national people want to come in.
13:37
[SPEAKER_01]: and they love the bears, right?
13:39
[SPEAKER_01]: People, I know this funny, I argue with people like this, not to tell them like, naturally people do want the bears to be good because it gives them something more to talk about.
13:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a third largest market.
13:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And really, if you're talking football, it may be, it could be one, I mean, it could be two or three.
13:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to still give New York by a population density, and then you can think about Philly and Chicago.
13:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I think LA,
13:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's for instance, like here in Chicago, it's as far as living down by it.
14:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But right now, your coach had a good game, but I'm going to get on his ass in a second.
14:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a couple of, yeah, it was a couple of problems with Ben Johnson today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
14:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want me to talk about it?
14:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want me to wait?
14:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Get in there, man.
14:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Get in there.
14:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
14:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So first half, they ended up punting the ball.
14:24
[SPEAKER_01]: when they should have just got, they had two times to just get the first down, right?
14:28
[SPEAKER_01]: They threw the ball on both times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was the, this was the penultimate series before the end of the first half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
14:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, for sure.
14:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
14:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, anybody who was like, what the heck?
14:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the second to last one, all right?
14:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So now I know how it was.
14:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was the three and up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a two, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The two and a drive where they went three and up.
14:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
14:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem with it, where one, I think it was like a minute, 40 left on a clock, right?
14:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem with it was one had you set there and run the ball there was a chance that you could have ran the ball the clock out or at least you would only give in the Browns the ball back with a little bit of time left.
15:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what made it worse out of the bed that bad play call for Ben Johnson right at the end of the first half of the arts on first down with the comment on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And right at the one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, that right there, stop being cute, Ben.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like stop, stop being that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it cost us.
15:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the real reason that is bad, because you knew that the win was in hand for the Bears.
15:27
[SPEAKER_01]: The reason it was bad was because that last series which they may probably win the hat had to have more time to run off the clock.
15:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb looked like he got hurt.
15:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And that right there, we would have been on that ass if Caleb didn't come back out in that second half, right, and that part who did that and then he did it he did it again going for the fourth down and Caleb got sack by Alex right and it's like, do why like stop, all right you.
15:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, everything they say about Caleb going for the home run, applies to the head coach too.
15:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm big, I'm being Johnson's biggest fan, right?
16:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't do that, all right?
16:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Even against the Browns because one thing is, someone can get hurt.
16:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the premium time of the year, where we've said in his Swicken Kool-A, and some bad thing to fuck up everything up.
16:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're like, damn it if we only had someone so, right?
16:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's my only bad part actually of this game was Ben Johnson was playing around too much and you don't need to do that against the Browns man.
16:28
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's a war but tradition and everybody's banged up but you don't want to put your guys in a precarious situation when you can get the hell out of there by just taking care of all and making sure you play a fundamental football.
16:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my shot at Ben Johnson to his ears.
16:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Just gonna play a little devil's advocate here.
16:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Would you rather Ben Johnson try and get cute and mess around with stuff and try things in a game that's like, okay, we're gonna handily win this bad boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, okay, let's see what this looks like in game action.
17:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Rather than getting cute against the Green Bay Packers next week, right?
17:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to try the cuteness this week?
17:10
[SPEAKER_00]: See what you can get away with see what you can't get away with.
17:14
[SPEAKER_00]: to do some self-scouting later, just a little devil's advocacy.
17:17
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I think that's a great point.
17:20
[SPEAKER_01]: The real issue in both instances is Caleb, oh, got hurt.
17:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
17:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So the first one, for him, he wouldn't have been out there probably for that last series.
17:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That would have been the final of the first half instead of the penultimate of the first half.
17:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was, that's where it's bad because if he gets hurt, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
17:41
[SPEAKER_01]: This team could still be kind of good with Tyson Bayesian in there, but you're not the same team with Tyson Bayesian who was not available because he was ill.
17:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It was case Keenam was the backup today.
17:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's now, now you're talking crazy to me, Alex.
17:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you know what I'm saying?
17:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, think about that.
17:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, and again, I won't even say this as nitpicking.
18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just fat.
18:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, you had to win, too.
18:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So imagine if he's out for the second half.
18:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the Bears defense probably would have done what they need to do.
18:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But you could have given the Browns offense more opportunities because a quarterback that's cold, let alone case can come in and may turn the ball over.
18:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the Bears could have just went to a run, heavy run.
18:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and just kept the ball on the ground.
18:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope that's what they would have done.
18:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right as far as Alex, you want to see, but you don't want to risk the quarterback getting hurt.
18:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I brought up.
18:29
[SPEAKER_01]: and the second half, with Caleb got sacked by right.
18:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the last thing you need, because you can, of this thing, and the bear's fans, we don't know this, because we've never experienced it.
18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: We've never had a guy that can take us to another level.
18:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Ryzen Tiles, Ryzen's all ships.
18:45
[SPEAKER_01]: We've never had that quarterback.
18:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I've always say about the packers and the bears, we always come to the gunfight with blades, like razor lasers, and they got pistols, right?
18:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Machine guns, and we're,
18:56
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna get close!
18:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, you know, that's not how the Intermodern NFL is playing.
19:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we have missiles!
19:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We actually have missiles too!
19:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you take it off!
19:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
19:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so 3D with the abilities.
19:18
[SPEAKER_01]: They got her.
19:19
[SPEAKER_00]: They're so bad.
19:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Explosive.
19:21
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears are explosive.
19:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
19:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm with you.
19:25
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we were texting at the top of the fourth quarter.
19:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I've put it out there on Twitter.
19:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the bears could have benched Caleb Williams in the fourth quarter.
19:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, good job, dude.
19:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You had a phenomenal game.
19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: This game is a wrap.
19:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's be honest.
19:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The Andre Swift is out here getting over five yards to carry.
19:43
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you end with?
19:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You had a phenomenal game.
19:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 18 carries 98 yards, 5.4 carry.
19:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Common on guys doing just fine as well.
19:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And it with 11 carries for 33 yards, not so good at three three yards per carry.
19:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But common on guy was doing his job when he needed to.
20:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You tell me case kingdom can't hand the ball off to dehydrate swift.
20:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You tell me case kingdom can't hand the ball off to common unguide that case kingdom can't hit a little play action.
20:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just a little play action flip to Colcomet.
20:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Case kingdom could do that in the fourth quarter.
20:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I was like, I'm with you because it is we set it the beginning of the year.
20:22
[SPEAKER_00]: If we set it long ago on the under center podcast, it's all about.
20:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams.
20:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams is everything for this franchise where Caleb Williams goes the Chicago Bears will go.
20:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You can throw Ben Johnson into that as well.
20:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Ben Johnson is obviously a huge proponent of that.
20:41
[SPEAKER_00]: If Caleb Williams gets hurt, especially if it happened to be on a silly play in a meaningless period, I mean,
20:51
[SPEAKER_00]: That, like, really, really hampers what this should call the winners could do.
20:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm with you.
20:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It is about protecting your quarterback and I thought he could have sat that fourth quarter and avoided taking those extra hits because he did take some extra hits in that fourth quarter.
21:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And, um,
21:07
[SPEAKER_00]: be, you know, just let it chill.
21:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, let it let him save his body, survive, and advance, because Caleb Williams is everything for the Chicago Bears.
21:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It would have also been a of Travis Homer appearance as Kalmanunga is subbed with Travis Homer and you sit the Andre Swift.
21:27
[SPEAKER_01]: As you mentioned, Swift had a great game with two touchdowns, a long of 17 yards,
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the way that he's been running the last like four weeks where his, sometimes he's two 54's own good, but his shift is just been fine.
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been, it's been so nice where he's doing he's messing cats up.
21:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But also the, the, the, the way like sometimes he can't find he used to, he used to break it outside when there was opportunities up the middle.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But now, and I think it's also because of the, with the bears, the positives have seen and how their collapse in the interior because of Senator Garcenter, he did such a job on how he bounced it out, but it's the angle that he uses, because he takes such a sharp angle and makes sure it makes the person trying to set the edge, it throws off their ability to get to him, how he takes that angle, like a lot of guys will kind of swing to break it out.
22:24
[SPEAKER_01]: and give the edge guy a chance.
22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He comes so close to the back of the line that it makes the edge guy have to get out even further too and he can out run those people.
22:33
[SPEAKER_01]: The way he does that, and particularly how well it's been, hats off to him, again.
22:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll save his hats off to a guy that last year.
22:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, was getting this and tore up.
22:44
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
22:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember everything was hate, hate, hate on him.
22:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this year, it's like, well, just been really warm here because when he was in Detroit, they didn't keep them.
22:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And look at what he's doing with his opportunity right now.
22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Like on the he's your, he regards what they doing off season.
23:00
[SPEAKER_01]: He's your starter.
23:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're not going to break.
23:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope they don't draft anybody in the first round.
23:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I can run the ball.
23:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm definitely, I'm being honest with you.
23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We got other things to do.
23:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't say it.
23:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be there.
23:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm well, you know what?
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if he goes and if he if he's around after the top 16, he'll think he drops the 32, you know what he drops the 32 for the bears?
23:16
[SPEAKER_00]: No, never, I got a lot of 32.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I love the 32.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You like that?
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it.
23:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he will be there for the bears and I also think as that the bears have defensive issues and perhaps depending on who may be there for the offensive line particularly if they want to go after someone else in the room for left tackle, but defensively
23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: they need to go get an edge rush in a D.T.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: is what they really need to do.
23:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But the deandership play will, and speaking about, and now I don't want to, I'm just bringing up edge rushes in D.T.
23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Dexter, Dexter put your Videx to the senior play will, Austin Booker.
23:59
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, young Austin.
24:00
[SPEAKER_01]: had him a game, and graded Jared got his first sack of a game, the interceptions, oh, the interceptions.
24:08
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're talking about you had CJ Garter Johnson, you had a Demarco Jackson, and Jaylen Johnson on the Jerry Judy drop basket drop.
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo,
24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: because I was going suck anyway, I was going to have a bad game, but you could at least put a touchdown on it.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It could at least been one and two as far as touchdowns in a step to the set of zero and three when it comes to touchdown in a step since one and two.
24:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: One and two is a lot different.
24:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, hey, it's particularly against a such an opportunistic, a turnover opportunistic defense, right?
24:54
[SPEAKER_01]: This briefly, that also, I'm not going to say it was, it wasn't going to change the game, the bears going to kick that ass.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But it could have made them play better because what's the chance is really going and you like, man, we ain't got a chance to.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was it.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that really was ball game, right?
25:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It was such a good one for that.
25:10
[SPEAKER_00]: It was such a deflating moment for them because the bears took advantage.
25:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is something that they didn't do last week.
25:16
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't really take advantage of the turnover.
25:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this week that that was ball game, right?
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It was Cleveland Interception, Bears Touchdown, Cleveland Interception, Bears Touchdown, right?
25:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in the span of like five minutes, it happens, it happened real quick.
25:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It happened real quick, so not five minutes.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at it.
25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It took eight minutes, eight minutes again, but still, I mean, it was like,
25:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was it.
25:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It was curtains.
25:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It was curtains after that interception.
25:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So completely, completely deflating.
25:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, great.
25:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And another play where just somehow, some way, you know, bears fans watching that game, just like the DJ more touch down.
26:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like going, oh, no, oh, no, oh, no, to wait.
26:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, it's a touch.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, Janol Johnson is the ball?
26:17
[SPEAKER_00]: How on earth did that happen?
26:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, those places typically happen what's the season?
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: For the bears, it happened twice.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It happened twice in like, in no time at all.
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It just happened.
26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Two of those plays in a quick succession.
26:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolute madness.
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: They were sorry Alex, I know you're fighting the sickness.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen you're you're number one when I received or I won't say best because I think DJ maybe still better as far as due to his experience, but Rome doomsday your number one target found out he wasn't going to play.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though they probably need to hold them out for a couple more will you may need them in the past.
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I said you need them last week.
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But you sat there and he held him out.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he aggravated that hill in warm ups.
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But you had Luther Burton with seven targets and six receptions.
27:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And for 84 yards in a long, a 40.
27:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Here, J. Moore went off with five targets, four receptions for six and a nine yards, two T.D.s and a log of 25.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, Mr. Kostern loved one, my goodness.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I still may have not went with the other side in.
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not mad at him, but when you look at five targets for four receptions and six three yards at a long time, but the way he snatches the ball out of the sky, his ability to catch the football.
27:45
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28:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, I'm sorry, co-comment, co-comment, yeah.
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope he didn't, because you see how important I have in both tidings, particularly in 12 or 13 formation benefits to the bears.
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, that's kind of the point I was saying about this time of year.
28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You lose guys that are so intricate to what you're doing on your football team.
28:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't help it, but you also, and again, this wasn't what happened with co-comment, want to put guys in situations where something happened when you don't have to do it,
28:32
[SPEAKER_01]: co-comment doesn't have an injury that will keep him out of the playoffs.
28:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Playoffs.
28:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I know the bear's have to get a victory or two more at least.
28:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, okay, since me and you read ten wins.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we did understand it together for two or three years.
28:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, longer than that.
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We started in 20, 20, 20.
28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It was 20, 20, it was a 20, 20, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21
29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: to last season that the bears have to miss your having 10 victories.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And how much bad football do we have to talk about?
29:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And we have fun y'all look talking football is a stressful day where it was stressful at times.
29:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's feels fun.
29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you about?
29:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Trust home and I was like, oh my god, what on earth can we talk about with this?
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even say that walking into the
29:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Josh rock.
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to get Josh rock on here.
29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: One of these days just to give him the opportunity to say nice things about the Chicago Bears.
30:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he does he never.
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't.
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He still won't.
30:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he won't.
30:07
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, great.
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get Josh rock on here to continue to be about the bear.
30:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Just let him just that little dose.
30:13
[SPEAKER_01]: We just need to do so there.
30:14
[SPEAKER_00]: He's, uh, but yeah, no, we, um, to answer your question.
30:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess, okay, so we did it the 2021 season 2022 23 the 2024 season.
30:25
[SPEAKER_00]: So we did four seasons of the under center show and now we have done.
30:30
[SPEAKER_00]: a partial season of Dwindy City podcast.
30:34
[SPEAKER_00]: In the very short time of Dwindy City podcast, we've seen about, I don't know, let me crush the numbers real quick, 750% more better football than it in four years.
30:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that's at 750% more better football.
30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot better football.
30:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes,
30:57
[SPEAKER_01]: 10 wins in 14 games, 10 wins in 14 games, and they start off the season bad, they start going to.
31:12
[SPEAKER_01]: The offense wasn't working well for the passing game was still isn't it the tip top shape is because it's gotten better But they didn't start running it down football and like wait what we six we check yeah, yeah, yeah, it was after the buy Dude, I mean This right here bears fans.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't listen they get to the playoffs.
31:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes Contextually it matters what happens.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: All right
31:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not going to lose what unless someone gets hurt and it affects next year, right?
31:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Or someone gets arrested for something crazy.
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, they have to be dampening it, Ben Johnson.
31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm gonna enjoy this because man, think about all those Sundays.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Think about all Sundays you give up, right?
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Where you could go and do something, right?
32:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And you are signed into this, and they keep kicking you, kicking you, kicking you, kicking you, and now we finally, we get up and we grab the foot Alex.
32:11
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we're not a kid.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not this time.
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so it's good to finally be on this with the future, you know, say like with with not the window doesn't seem like we've had a figure out in two years because so it's also free agent like
32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: No, man, we got the coach in the QB, baby, that's all you need out here in these streets.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We got the coach back at QB.
32:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got the interior of the line.
32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got the DC at least one tackle.
32:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And Aussie Triple looks pretty solid, you know?
32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Looks pretty solid.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey.
32:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Joe's gonna play forever.
32:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So you might have to replace your left guard, but hey, you can get a guard.
32:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they could ride a guard.
32:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You can find it.
32:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You can get a guard.
32:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Also not talking about wholesale changes on the offensive line.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Offensive lines playing lights out.
33:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what the bears did with the wrong game to get run game today against the Browns D line like that's also like kind of what that was strength against strength, you know, bear strength against brown strength and the bear strength was stronger, I mean, that's a confidence builder.
33:21
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's like another type of statement like we're going to take our best at your best and our best is better than your best.
33:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's just so much to celebrate so many flowers to throw with this game.
33:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny when you mention Aussie Tricillo, my thought was, oh my goodness, you're not scared to have to be to be lining up and
33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Miles Garrett is in a wide and nice stance everybody and that's pretty if you don't know if these are how to lime and usually are that means like he was out wide like your bond curse just to do this with the Eagles back in the day where you did that like he look at how far he was outside of smith on that one shot right where he's.
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: outside of the tight end.
34:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, just thinking about what angle he's going to take and what he's going to do.
34:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I already would be on me so I can get contact with you.
34:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're getting speed and now I'm on the island and you could go anywhere you want to go.
34:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, man, I feel sorry for how much I feel right there to do.
34:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I read the MP directly, shading my shoulder, my outside shoulder, then be wide out on me.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That right there do is someone
34:29
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like, he's groovy with it, too.
34:32
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, that's a plan.
34:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a plan.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a plan.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easily, easily, man.
34:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, having to get offensive line makes a difference.
34:41
[SPEAKER_01]: As most bear's friends knew, but the current general manager didn't invest in.
34:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just be frank about it.
34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just,
34:49
[SPEAKER_01]: the truth.
34:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You kept trying to do it through the draft and Tom Foulary and going out and making a wholesale changes from Garcin a guard shows you what you can do and not plan around and drafting projects like you have in the past also.
35:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, shout out to Ben Johnson for bringing some common sense to the general manager's office as far as selection and
35:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Can we talk a little bit more about the defense and the job that they did?
35:21
[SPEAKER_00]: We've talked a little bit more.
35:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the CJ Gardener Johnson interception that I touched on a little bit.
35:26
[SPEAKER_00]: There was just like a clear way of confusing a young quarterback turning it into an interception and they highlighted it on the broadcast, which was nice.
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: CJ Gardener Johnson, and again, these are the things that we're talking about when we're saying
35:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Dan Sound does a good job of disguising coverages, especially when bringing guys to the line, mimicking like they're going to blitz.
35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, CJ Gardner Johnson, near the line of skirmish, CJ Gardner Johnson blitz is all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we probably like, okay, this guy might be coming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, on quarterback, I don't really know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But whatever, I'm seeing this guy at the line of skirmish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After the snap, CJ Garner Johnson just quietly drifts back into his own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shoulder Sanders does not seem as all lofts a ball up there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's easy for CJ Garner Johnson who's a very athletic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: good ball skills type of guy to just slide right under it and pick that ball off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is again, like a moment where Dennis Allen is putting his guys in a position to succeed and the players are executing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just absolute game plan and scheme meets the players and you know, it's the Jimmy's and Joe's and the exes, you know, it's coming together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a wonderful thing to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's done it all year and it's just another exhibit of, okay, we're going to disguise this thing and CJ Garner Johnson is going to execute it perfectly and bears ball touchdown loading so once again shout out to Dennis Allen, I mean they again they swallowed up that run game Quint John Judgins 12 carries for 21 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a good running back who's had a solid season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 12 carries for 21 yard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is under two yards of carry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's an e-mic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenneth, you're muted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're muted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This week, a top 12 running back, actually.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know personally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I wish I play Rico MacDowell.
37:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been terrible recently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks like Jimmy gives me not get a lot of men being first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to get in that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to
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[SPEAKER_00]: to the worst, one of the worst players.
37:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be the Purdue Boiler Makers?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say this though, ha ha ha.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Ednie, the Ednie won from two seasons ago.
37:54
[SPEAKER_01]: No, because he played some three seasons ago, because they made it to the finals the season before last season, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because Connecticut won anyways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, anyway, I also want to say this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've just partnered out, CJ Guard Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to pick on them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, he was exposed for what happens in coverage by bond.
38:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, we didn't have to talk about the fact that Kyla Gordon was ruled out of today's game and placed on IR.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he won the man in the remaining games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it keeps showing up in coverage where CJ has to do stuff like that, where you need your true nickel guy out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That has the athleticism to keep up with the speed of your receiver and that fashion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that can come back, but the bears have shown they can play with out Kyler, but again, Dennis Island system is predicated on a bringing pressure and using those defensive back, particularly a nickel back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to take advantage of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of defenses are based on using, particularly the nickel backs to help shut down the run game since they're so close to the to the to the edge of the line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, and that's one another thing that Kyle Gordon, it's CJ guard Johnson is good with that, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we know how, how good Kyle Gordon is and then how,
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the color garden is when you bring in pressure off the edge with that nickel back, but again, it's been a it's it was a really good day and as you pointed out, I mean, they shine right almost had an interception like nothing, yeah, I like that right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a great game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and it should have been because this is a bad team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll be honest, it's a bad franchise, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a poorly run franchise to say to least.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know what it even goes into the Browns right now because we're having a good time.
39:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It's no reason to sour the good time we're having with my thoughts on about the Cleveland Browns from the room to the theater.
39:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Was there anything else about the defense that you uh, ooh, Stafford got hit right there
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[SPEAKER_00]: usually knee-washing Sunday night football.
39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be record podcast, but it's Kenneth watching the America's game with the Z while we record for once.
39:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I got Stafford, Devonti Adams, and Jamir Gibbs going right now, and my opponent has the damn lion's defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, I'm watching the damn game right now.
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[UNKNOWN]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, no, just like absolute dominance.
40:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely dominated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No quarter for Cleveland.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this defense has been so good all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: MVP of the season has been the defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dennis Allen has his fingerprints all over the success.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The players are executing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was their best game of the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My opinion.
40:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just
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[SPEAKER_00]: unreal performance.
40:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Before we get out here, I want to add to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Personnel, pro personnel, so much better from the guys that have been brought in.
40:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You look at what Demarco Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in a backup role has done has been able to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know Nationan Wright was supposed to be a backup.
40:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You look at just all the players that have had to step up because players have been injured.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's credit to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Credit to them, having these guys ready to go.
41:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Guys seem like they're ready to go and they talk about it as far as taste, Tyson Bay Gent, weeks back saying that he's never felt like Pastor Jean would have had them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The backups is prepared as they have them right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's do it.
41:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this game boss of Plenty, baby?
41:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, most of Plenty is right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This game boss of Plenty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'll take the easiest one.
41:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Williams, come down here and get this game boss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'll uh, I'll give another easy one deand race with Kenneth you brought up his chiffiness.
41:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually had one more thing about the about deand race with some glad we're bringing them up with the game balls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, also his physicality, that touchdown run.
41:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They are not good.
41:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's like so hard out.
41:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it was so much easier.
41:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I do days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: break in tackles run in the room guys like there's a physicality he's bringing to his game that we've seen against throughout the year lowering the shoulder he did earlier loans to order to get a few more yards breaking tackles uh and scorn touchdowns DeAndre Swift what is it like his
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[SPEAKER_00]: fifth game ball of the year that we've been given to them for man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just well deserve so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been so yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to give a game ball out to this one is for two special teamers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One goes to Devon Duverne.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for a route to really three good kickoff returns, or maybe it was two good kickoff turns, two good punts.
42:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But he definitely had two good kickoffs returns and one good pull.
42:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But I felt like a couple where he was at, he got a decent amount of yards, even if it was like eight yards, because the field was more compressed.
42:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a really good game, even to catch from Caleb on the sideline.
42:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But someone who I make fun of a lot,
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[SPEAKER_01]: for his punk game this day as far as field position and he did a real good game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So give him a game balls out to both of the special team guys right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm giving 11 game balls to the defense of players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I mean, just I can't single out any single person on that defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They all played lights out every single one of them.
43:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we're just, we're not watching the all 22.
43:27
[SPEAKER_00]: We're recording this right after the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So right now, I'm giving out 11 balls to 11 guys because that defense of performance was insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a 12th one for Dennis Allen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So 12 game balls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, do you have any one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We handed out a whole lot of game balls today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 11 plus two plus 14.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We ended up 14 game balls.
43:52
[SPEAKER_00]: No, 15 game balls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but 16 game balls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
43:57
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
43:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's what else did you want to talk for your extra point, Alex?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have an extra point, Kath?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't have extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
44:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm unfortunately going to bring it down a little bit to talk about something that is extremely tragic that happened and was honestly a distraction for me during the game today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the Hanukkah Massacre at Bondi Beach in Australia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, things of this nature have just become far, far, far to commonplace.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And anti-Semitism has simply been on the rise around the world since October 7th, the biggest massacre since the Holocaust, across the globe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to underline some of these things to show that this is not a nice related incident, that the Hanukkah massacre in Australia comes off the heels of the
45:03
[SPEAKER_00]: young kipper, killings in London, comes off the heels of people being shot for being Jewish in Washington, D.C., comes off the heels of Jewish attacks and call it like these are all recent things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Antisemitism is rising and it needs to end.
45:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So I brought some numbers because that's what I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to bring numbers about how staggeringly awful it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is from the ADL
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[SPEAKER_00]: anti-Semitic hate crimes rose 139% from 2022 to 2023.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 3698 hate crimes against Jews to 8,873.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they say over 5,000 of those happened after October 7th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So 5,000 of those 8,873 came in the last three months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They rose again from 2023 to 2024.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The 2025 numbers won't be released until next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: From 2024 to 2025, they jumped again from 8873 to 9354.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's another 5% jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's in the United States of America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Across the globe, the ADL does a survey every year about anti-Semitic ideas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just to see basically how many anti-Semites are out there and how much anti-Semitism is harbored out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they send this survey out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's 11 questions on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The questions range from, do you believe Jews have too much power in the business world?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you believe the Holocaust is inaccurate?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two, do you believe that Jews just have irritating traits?
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[SPEAKER_00]: 46% of the people around the world answered positively anti-Semitically, if you will, 46% harbored the anti-Semitic trope to 6 out of 11 of those questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 6 out of 11 of those questions, nearly half of the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In Chicago, Illinois, our home, it's been bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We see it here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We see it here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... hate crimes have actually been down across the board which is good so from year to year this is from the city of Chicago itself year to year
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the most recent data.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hate crimes are down and it's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anti-trans crimes are down 36%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anti-Asian crimes down 45%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anti-Latino crimes down 18% anti-black crimes down 57%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anti-Muslim crimes down 62.5%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jewish Hate crimes up 58%.
47:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a terrible thing, and this is a joyous holiday.
47:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Hanukkah, I'm going to light the candles with my family tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about surviving a time when people wanted to wipe us off the planet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Simple as that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're celebrating with Hanukkah, a celebration of life.
48:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm used for Alchai, you'll hear that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The people of Israel live, and I want to say that here.
48:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm used for Alchai.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The people of Israel live on and on through all of these things and we will continue to live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So please stand up to anti-Semitism, hearts go out to the 16 dead in Australia, the many more hospitalized, and to all the Jews out there,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you'll light it proudly.
48:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you hug your loved ones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to say, have a wonderful Hanukkah and I'm Israel High to everyone out there.
48:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Prayers and wishes to the families and also, we'd be remiss if we didn't mention the shooting at Brown University in Rhode Island, Providence, Rhode Island.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, sorry, um, again, we'll be back this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, Alex.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, talk about the bears upcoming game against the Packers and we'll be back after the Pat game here at the Winni City Podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll fancied it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk about perhaps the bears victory versus the pack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody, um, hug your loved ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, cause you never know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, just be safe out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's all see.