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- 0:00The highly anticipated report from the US government just
- 0:03dropped and it's sending a huge shockwave to the rest of the
- 0:07world. This 166 page report outlines
- 0:12America's plan and framework for the Bitcoin accumulation
- 0:16strategy, as well as so much more.
- 0:19It also mentioned self custody, which I find quite interesting.
- 0:22But before we break down the report, let's listen to what
- 0:25Trump's right hand man and the Bitcoin strategy behind and said
- 0:30just after the report dropped. Let's check out the clip and
- 0:33then opt deny. We'll talk about it.
- 0:36What's the update on a potential Bitcoin strategic reserve?
- 0:40Well, look, we, we have it, it's been, it's been established the
- 0:43executive order and the SPR. We also have the strategic
- 0:46National Stockpile, you know, I or the, sorry, the digital
- 0:50assets National Stockpile. I think that one, we wanted to
- 0:53recognize Bitcoin for being unique and we talked about, you
- 0:55know, what that looks like and kind of the threshold that that
- 0:58Bitcoin is created, you know, it's, it's in a class of its own
- 1:02and everyone recognizes that. But we also wanted to give
- 1:04credence to the work in the developments happening across
- 1:06other ecosystems. And that's why we have this
- 1:08national stockpile alongside, you know, this, this actually
- 1:11requires some labor to get this set up properly.
- 1:13You have to build the infrastructure, you have to make
- 1:15sure that you're you're crossing your TS and dotting your eyes to
- 1:18get this done the right way and have long term, long term
- 1:21success with it. But I've said at nauseam, you
- 1:23know, we do believe in accumulation, obviously in
- 1:26budget neutral ways as the president's outlined, but there
- 1:28are countless ways that we can engage in that.
- 1:30We'll act on those that can be most expeditiously implemented
- 1:34and I think that, you know, people will be very pleased with
- 1:37the direction that we go in and we'll start moving on that in
- 1:39short order. But obviously in this report, if
- 1:41you read the first digital asset CEO, we're tasked with creating
- 1:44a clear and robust regulatory framework.
- 1:46And so that's what we focus on here.
- 1:47We understand the importance of the strategic Bitcoin reserve or
- 1:51you know, enormous fans of of Bitcoin in the Bitcoin community
- 1:54and we want to deliver for them as well, and I'm certain that we
- 1:56will. How much Bitcoin does the
- 1:58federal government have? I can't.
- 1:59Discuss that right now. Give.
- 2:01Us a ballpark. I can't.
- 2:02Is it going to be made public? There are there are several
- 2:04reasons in which we're we're not disclosing that at this time.
- 2:07There might be a time in which we do.
- 2:10But what I will say is, you know, we want as much as we can
- 2:12possibly get and that's what I continue to say and we're going
- 2:14to continue to work on that like.
- 2:17We want as much as we can get. And again, that is a member of
- 2:24the executive branch talking about Bitcoin.
- 2:28And this is a report that I think the community was
- 2:32expecting for a very, very long time now since Trump got into
- 2:37office early on this year and he made an executive order
- 2:41basically asking for the report, the reports here.
- 2:44But again, I think Opti and I were talking about this, right?
- 2:47Like were we expecting more from the report but before Abdi?
- 2:52Well, I think the whole community was expecting a lot
- 2:55more. I think kind of the hype around
- 2:57it and I think you saw the kind of price react to it.
- 3:00And before we kind of get into all of the details, I think
- 3:03everyone was expecting a little more.
- 3:05Obviously, I think a lot of Bitcoiners, including myself,
- 3:08don't really understand how politics works per SE.
- 3:10And so you expect a lot more coming out like very quickly.
- 3:14But I think Bo Hines summed it up really well.
- 3:16Again, before we break down a lot of the stuff in it, he's
- 3:19like we got to lay out the framework, the regulatory
- 3:22framework, We got to give the market clarity.
- 3:24Before we start announcing all of this stuff, though, it was
- 3:27interesting how Koi was on how much Bitcoin they actually own,
- 3:31whether they're accumulating more.
- 3:33But it is interesting. He's like, we have it, which
- 3:36makes you think and speculate, OK, You know, the rumors
- 3:39recently, does the US have all the Bitcoin that they claim they
- 3:42have? If you're reading between the
- 3:44lines, it seems like we do. And it seems like maybe they're
- 3:48accumulating. Really, we have no no idea what
- 3:52they're doing. Obviously they're being very
- 3:53tight lipped about what they're actually doing.
- 3:56But there is a lot in this report that does kind of explain
- 4:01though, maybe if you have been following along on this, like, I
- 4:03don't know if anything new per SE came out like there's no
- 4:06breaking, breaking news coming out of this.
- 4:08But it was a huge report. Like I didn't even get enough
- 4:10time to read the whole thing. I skimmed through it and, you
- 4:12know, read some different chapters and we'll we'll talk
- 4:16about that more. So Anika, just keep going.
- 4:18Yeah, so let's let's do a a breakdown.
- 4:21So this was released yesterday, July 30th, 2025.
- 4:25I can never have imagined this, you know, just a couple years
- 4:29ago, just last year with the previous administration.
- 4:32So for the audio listeners fact sheet, the President's Working
- 4:36Group on Digital Asset Market releases recommendations to
- 4:39strengthen American leadership in digital financial technology.
- 4:45It goes on to say ushering in the golden era of crypto.
- 4:49When President Trump took office in January, he promised to make
- 4:52America the crypto capital of the world.
- 4:55Today, the President's Working Group on Digital Asset Markets
- 4:58is releasing report that provides a road map to make that
- 5:01promise of reality. Established by President Trump's
- 5:04Executive Order 14178, the working group consists of
- 5:09officials throughout the federal government and was tasked with
- 5:13submitting a report that recommends regulatory and
- 5:16legislative proposals to advance the policies established in the
- 5:19order. By implementing these
- 5:21recommendations, the policy makers can ensure that the
- 5:24United States leads the blockchain revolution and ushers
- 5:28in the golden era age of crypto, positioning America as the
- 5:33leader in digital asset markets. The working group determined
- 5:36that a fit for all-purpose market structure framework is
- 5:40essential to support growth and innovation in the digital assets
- 5:43industry. To protect consumers and keep
- 5:46the United States at the forefront of digital asset
- 5:49development, the Working Group recommends that Congress builds
- 5:53on the massive bipartisan House of Representatives vote clarity
- 5:57by enacting legislation that eliminates existing gaps and
- 6:00regulatory oversight by providing the CFTC authority to
- 6:05oversee spot markets for non security digital assets.
- 6:08Embrace D5 technology, and recognize the potential of
- 6:11integrating such technology into mainstream finance.
- 6:14The CS, the SCC, and the CFTC use their existing authorities
- 6:19to immediately enable the trading of digital assets at the
- 6:22federal level by providing clarity to market participants
- 6:26on issues such as registration, custody, trading, and record
- 6:29keeping. Allow innovative financial
- 6:32products to reach consumers without bureaucratic delays
- 6:35through the use of tools like safe harbors and regulatory
- 6:38sandboxes. Modernizing bank regulation for
- 6:42digital assets. The Trump administration has has
- 6:45already ended Operation Choke .2 Point O once and for all by
- 6:49working to end regulatory effort that deny banking services to
- 6:53the digital asset industry. A sound and predictable banking
- 6:57regulatory framework that embraces the promise of
- 6:59blockchain technology will allow depository institutions to meet
- 7:04customer demand for core banking services for digital assets and
- 7:08making it easier for those customers to access digital
- 7:11asset markets. The Working Group recommends
- 7:13that regulators take additional actions to relaunch crypto
- 7:17innovations. Efforts to clarify permissible
- 7:19bank activities in custody, tokenization, stablecoin
- 7:22issuance, in the use of blockchains.
- 7:24Promote transparency regarding the process for institutions to
- 7:27obtain banking bank charters or Reserve Bank master cards.
- 7:31Bank master accounts. I think Caitlin Long's gonna be
- 7:33very happy about that one. Ensure that bank capital rules
- 7:36are aligned with the actual risks associated with digital
- 7:39assets, not simply the fact of their presence on a distributed
- 7:43Ledger. Strengthening the the role of
- 7:46the US dollar, combating illicit finance in the digital age, and
- 7:50ensuring fairness and predictability in digital asset
- 7:53taxation. So again, I think bitcoiners
- 7:56were obviously expecting a lot more.
- 7:58I think it's been seven months. Someone in the chat saying
- 8:01sideways summer when Trump was inaugurated, the price of
- 8:04Bitcoin was at 109,000. We're currently sitting at
- 8:08118,000, right? And I've been saying this from a
- 8:12news perspective. This has been one of the most
- 8:14bullish cycles in Bitcoin's history.
- 8:16But from a price action perspective, it's been a little
- 8:19bit slow. It's been a little bit slow.
- 8:21Anyways, so they have a whole page on just Bitcoin and crypto
- 8:26on on the White House website. Here is directly from
- 8:29whitehouse.gov. Donald President Donald Trump's
- 8:33is strengthening American leadership and digital financial
- 8:36technology. You have like you know, Trump
- 8:38and his prime walk in the halls of the of the White House on the
- 8:41outside and it goes on to say the American story is 1 of
- 8:45innovation from the railroads that links sea to shining sea to
- 8:49the Internet that connected the the entire world.
- 8:51American entrepreneurs have led the build out of next generation
- 8:54technologies in every generation since our founding.
- 8:57Crypto should be no different. The Working Group, as the author
- 9:01of this report, endorses the notion that digital assets and
- 9:04blockchain technologies can revolutionize not just America's
- 9:08financial system, but systems of ownership and government
- 9:11governments world economy wide. American entrepreneurs who
- 9:15pioneer new industries using these technologies deserve both
- 9:18clarity on the policies that affect their efforts and praise
- 9:22for the progress they have made. The working group further
- 9:25believes that the that the movement underpinning cryptos
- 9:28development, largely grass roots and dedicated to building a more
- 9:32open and efficient financial system for all, should be
- 9:35recognized. No president gave this movement
- 9:39the recognition it deserves until President Trump.
- 9:41That's true. The Working Group encourages the
- 9:43federal government to Operation Operationalize President Trump's
- 9:49promise to make America the crypto capital of the world and
- 9:53adopt A pro innovation mindset towards digital assets and
- 9:56blockchain technologies. The following core
- 9:59recommendations, if implemented, will ensure crypto becomes a
- 10:03hallmark of the new American Golden Age.
- 10:07So here's the entire report. I believe it's 166 pages and it
- 10:12keeps just talks about the whole industry and what the plan is.
- 10:17Here's some pages that really stuck out to me, specifically
- 10:21this one as it relates to self custody.
- 10:24Here's Nick Newman, CEO of Casa, and he says, I've been saying
- 10:28this thing for years, that self custody is fundamentally aligned
- 10:31with American values around property rights.
- 10:34It's surreal to now see this being confirmed at the highest
- 10:38levels of our government in a bipartisan way.
- 10:41So it goes on to say Congress should evaluate the self custody
- 10:44language that is included in clarity and codify the following
- 10:48principles through legislation that reinforce the importance of
- 10:52self custody. Principle 1.
- 10:54The importance of US individuals maintaining the capability to
- 10:57lawfully hold or custody their own digital assets without a
- 11:02financial intermediary. Principle 2.
- 11:05The importance of enabling US individuals to engage in lawful
- 11:09direct digital asset transfers that do not involve a financial
- 11:13intermediary with another individual that lawfully self
- 11:17custodies digital assets. Congress shall codify principles
- 11:21regarding how control over an assets impacts BSA obligations,
- 11:26particular for money transfers through legislation such as the
- 11:29Blockchain Regulatory Certainty Act, which has been incorporated
- 11:33into Clarity. Specifically, such legislation
- 11:36could codify that a software provider that does not maintain
- 11:41total independent control over value is not engaged in money
- 11:44transmission for purposes of the BSA.
- 11:48So this is one of the things that stands out to me the most
- 11:52because this is paper Bitcoin summer after all, right?
- 11:56And what we, the new cycle of this cycle has been specifically
- 12:02about Bitcoin treasury companies, that has been the
- 12:05narrative. I think what Michael Saylor has
- 12:08done for the industry has been fantastic.
- 12:11I think what a lot of these treasury companies are going to
- 12:14do for the industry are going to be fantastic.
- 12:17But we all have to remember fundamentally what's going to
- 12:21change the world for the better. What we all want and aspire as
- 12:26human beings and just as people is freedom, right?
- 12:31The freedom to transact and the freedom to hold something that
- 12:36doesn't get debased. And I think honestly like that
- 12:41should be something that you shouldn't have to ask permission
- 12:44to do, right? And what Bitcoin brought to this
- 12:48world is this radical concept that you can memorize a 12 to
- 12:552024 word seed phrase. You can theoretically store
- 13:001,000,000 billions, trillions of dollars in your mind, right?
- 13:05And that gives you a tremendous amount of power to vote with
- 13:09your feet if you don't like the laws of your jurisdiction.
- 13:13And I've heard so many stories coming out of Venezuela where
- 13:17people want to escape the regime and they how do you transfer out
- 13:23of Venezuela? You don't do that.
- 13:26So what do they do? They buy Bitcoin, put in a
- 13:29harder wallet and they get on a plane or they cross the border
- 13:34and they're able to take everything they own with them.
- 13:37When you hear these horror stories of Lebanon and Greece
- 13:42and you hear, and it even happened here in the United
- 13:45States of these so-called bank runs, people forget people lost
- 13:50their life savings, right? So this idea that you're
- 13:54outsourcing the personal responsibility of the custody of
- 13:57your wealth and the way that I see wealth is energy, right?
- 14:01And when you're outsourcing that to someone else, it might feel
- 14:06safe, but you're really giving total responsibility to that
- 14:10other person to determine the outcome of your life, right?
- 14:16The direction of your life. And that is a very radical
- 14:19concept, right? It's completely outside the over
- 14:22attend window, but it's true, right?
- 14:24So the fact that the White House came out with this specifically
- 14:30saying we got to protect self custody and the rights of
- 14:33Americans to take self custody is incredibly important.
- 14:37And of course, I have to give a shout out to Dennis Porter
- 14:39because he's done. He's been doing incredible work
- 14:42on the state level regarding this.
- 14:44And then principle #2 the importance of enabling US
- 14:47individuals to engage in lawful, direct, direct digital asset
- 14:51transfers that do not involve financial intermediary with
- 14:54another individual that lawfully self custodies digital assets.
- 14:58So what that basically means is self custody should be allowed
- 15:01for individuals. And if me and Opti send each
- 15:06other Bitcoin, that should be fine too.
- 15:10That's what the White House is signaling.
- 15:12Now, why would they signal this? Because you, you have to read
- 15:15between the lines. And this is really what I want
- 15:18to focus on in this entire report, because this is simply
- 15:21Bitcoin after all, right? And at we've always said this,
- 15:26the revolution, what is going to fundamentally change the world?
- 15:30What is going to fix wealth inequality, what is going to fix
- 15:34your ability to save into the future is you buying earnings,
- 15:39saving in Bitcoin, putting that Bitcoin into self custody and
- 15:44just switching to a, a Bitcoin standard.
- 15:47That is what's going to change your life.
- 15:49That's what's going to change the lives of everyone.
- 15:52But you have to understand that. OK, so if we can do that, why
- 15:58would they want to stop us from doing that?
- 16:01Well, I mean, there was a clip. I, we can't play it for you
- 16:03guys. We don't have a clip, but
- 16:04essentially there's a clip that was circulating around X
- 16:08yesterday and it was talking about, it was basically the
- 16:12European Central Bank admitting that if they don't roll out
- 16:16these CBD CS, they're going to lose their ability to manipulate
- 16:22money, right? And I'm, I'm simplifying it
- 16:25here, but that, that was the TLDR, right?
- 16:29So these two principles are so important because I think what's
- 16:36going to happen in the next 5 to 10 years is a bigger and bigger
- 16:41percentage of the world population is going to opt out
- 16:47of their local Fiat currencies. And if you're a government or if
- 16:52you're a nation state that depends on being able to print,
- 16:59to pay, to essentially fund yourself, you're obviously not
- 17:05going to like that very much. You're not going to like that
- 17:08very much because what it does is it essentially forces the
- 17:11state to live within its means, right?
- 17:15And then it also empowers the individual to say, hey, you know
- 17:18what? I kind of don't like the
- 17:20situation here. I can get up and go if I want
- 17:23to. I can vote with my feet, so to
- 17:26speak. So as much as all these things
- 17:30about Bitcoin that you guys appreciate, you guys admire, to
- 17:33the new watchers of the show, you guys have to understand what
- 17:37makes Bitcoin special is your ability to take custody of it,
- 17:42and what makes Bitcoin special is your ability to transact
- 17:46peer-to-peer. That's what makes Bitcoin
- 17:48special. Before Bitcoin, if I wanted to
- 17:52just send Optia $100, I would have to go on Cash App, I would
- 17:56have to go on Zelle, I would have to go on PayPal, I would
- 17:59have to go on all these options. By the way, they're fantastic,
- 18:02they're great, but fundamentally they're still intermediaries.
- 18:07And with an intermediary, history has shown that if
- 18:13there's enough political pressure, those intermediaries
- 18:16will be weaponized, they will be Co opted, they will be captured.
- 18:21That isn't the case with Bitcoin.
- 18:25So this whole report, this is the thing that matters to me the
- 18:30most, and I'm super glad the administration is on board and
- 18:35understands what needs to happen now.
- 18:38I'm happy about the Clarity Act. I'm also happy with Dennis
- 18:41Portis's work on the state level because multiple states have
- 18:45passed laws that protect the right for individuals to take
- 18:49self custody. But what you can do is make your
- 18:53voices heard because fundamentally, guys, you have to
- 18:56understand this is going to be the defining issue.
- 19:02This is going to be the pivotal shift that changes the direction
- 19:07of which humanity is heading. This is it right here.
- 19:12It's your ability as an individual to reclaim back your
- 19:16financial sovereignty by opting out of the Fiat system and
- 19:21putting your energy, your time, and your work into a money that
- 19:25cannot be debased. That is the pivotal
- 19:29conversation. And also your ability to use
- 19:32that money with other individuals.
- 19:36What you will, what we've seen in the past and what I believe
- 19:40you will still continue to see into the future because I don't
- 19:43think we've ended. This hasn't ended.
- 19:45I think this is the beginning of this is I think states that
- 19:51don't have your best interest at heart are not going to be OK
- 19:56with that. They're not going to be OK with
- 19:59that. That's too much power for the
- 20:01individual. It's way too much power.
- 20:04So yeah, that's my, that's my bid on all this.
- 20:08Opti, I know I went on a little bit of a rant, bro, but I don't
- 20:11know what your favorite part from this report was, but that's
- 20:16the one that spoke. That's the part that spoke to me
- 20:18the most. Yeah, I actually saw that.
- 20:21I didn't see that exact page, but I did see something similar.
- 20:24It said, you know, the Digital asset working Group is going to
- 20:30push Congress to ensure that self custody is like respected.
- 20:35And the part that really stuck out to me, they said
- 20:37specifically that individuals can, you know, partake and quote
- 20:42lawful peer-to-peer transactions.
- 20:44And I found that super interesting when I saw that.
- 20:48I think there's a lot going on here.
- 20:50Again, at first it is maybe I, my first initial reaction was
- 20:54like the chud. Nothing ever happened to me.
- 20:56And you know, like we, we were expecting probably they them
- 21:00telling us that they're, they stacked a lot of Bitcoin that we
- 21:02could see how much Bitcoin they actually had.
- 21:05In reality, they kind of just laid out a framework like this
- 21:07entire report is there's like a intro where it kind of explains
- 21:12what Bitcoin is, what digital assets are, And then it goes
- 21:15into various different points. And it's just, it's pretty much
- 21:19like an outline. It's it's full of a bunch of
- 21:21recommendations for all the different, various institutions
- 21:24that are, you know, trying to have some claim into the Bitcoin
- 21:27space, or rather recommendations to all the various institutions
- 21:32that have some jurisdiction over Bitcoin currently.
- 21:35And then what they advise them to do, though, from like a
- 21:39Bitcoiners perspective, one of the parts that I did find the
- 21:41most interesting is they literally quoting Satoshi
- 21:44throughout the whole thing, which is actually kind of
- 21:45interesting. Like every new segment has a new
- 21:48Satoshi quote throughout it. And like the Bo Hines clip in
- 21:51the beginning, he is, you know, saying, hey, we respect the
- 21:54Bitcoiners, we love Bitcoin. We want to do do right by the
- 21:58the hardcore Bitcoiners as well. Of course, they're trying to lay
- 22:01a framework here so that everyone is kind of, you know,
- 22:04like a like a wholesale framework so that we kind of
- 22:07have some quote rules of the road here.
- 22:09And there were some segments that I just completely like
- 22:12overlooked because it's talking about like various digital
- 22:14assets and different institutions that are again,
- 22:17laying claim to Bitcoin and how they've been kind of currently
- 22:23making rules around Bitcoin. I was really looking in there to
- 22:26see if they really, you know, announced the strategic Bitcoin
- 22:30reserve, what they were kind of talking about via taxes.
- 22:33There was specifically kind of a a couple sentences in there
- 22:37about how Bitcoin will be treated in taxes and how they're
- 22:40going to recommend some change, potentially some de minimis tax,
- 22:44you know, exclusions in there. But there was something that was
- 22:48a little maybe more, I don't know if it's nefarious as the
- 22:52word, but they did mention like the Patriot Act and adding a 6th
- 22:55amendment to that, which, you know, as a Bitcoiner and further
- 22:59someone that like became an adult during 2001.
- 23:02That made me feel a little weird.
- 23:03But overall, I think it was a very comprehensive coverage of
- 23:06what's going on in the space. And really I think it's the
- 23:09impact that it's going to make on every other jurisdiction.
- 23:12It's like I haven't seen in any other country drop 100 66 page
- 23:16report about everything regarding the quote on quote
- 23:19crypto space. So I think it's a good first
- 23:21step. And when I hear Bo Hines talk
- 23:24about it, actually, will you pull up that one tweet?
- 23:25He's literally like Bitcoin bull posting here.
- 23:29He's he's straight up shit posted this morning, You know,
- 23:33dropping a meme of the genesis block with Donald Trump's tweet
- 23:37here or quote here. We saw Scott Besson basically
- 23:43full posting as well, you know, crypto welcome home.
- 23:46And he's still saying crypto. So I don't know, a lot of it is
- 23:50kind of making me feel and maybe that's the literally the signal
- 23:54that it's the vibes. You know, it's it's what's it
- 23:56vibe Capital Management here. So the vibes around it are very
- 24:00high now, as probably everyone is saying in the chat, like we
- 24:05want to see some implementation. But again, you know, governments
- 24:07work slowly as Bill Hines was kind of outlining.
- 24:10They put a lot of man hours into this.
- 24:12If this, I don't know if it was yeah, I think it was this video.
- 24:15If you guys watch this video on Twitter, you can hear David
- 24:18Sacks in it basically say, you know, we we've been going to
- 24:21meetings, like hundreds of meetings, thousands of hours to
- 24:23get this together. So they are putting in the work
- 24:26and let's just see what's get what gets implemented moving
- 24:30forward. And and hopefully soon as we
- 24:32heard, you know, maybe we will finally get some conclusion.
- 24:38Yeah, try it again, some some conclusion on what's going on
- 24:42with the strategic Bitcoin reserve.
- 24:43But it sounds like they're doing it.
- 24:44So as of now, we it's just a it's just a regulatory framework
- 24:48and outline, but it's pretty comprehensive.
- 24:51I don't know if you guys want to read.
- 24:52It's a little, I would say kind of boring, but you know, this is
- 24:56this is I think this was really more angled towards the
- 24:59regulations etcetera, versus like, you know, just bull
- 25:02posting and explaining what Bitcoin is and what they're
- 25:04going to do. So I'm guessing that's the next
- 25:06step. Yeah, I mean, this is a huge,
- 25:10you know, stamp of approval, ladies and gentlemen like Scott
- 25:15Besson published in the Washington Post, Jeff Bezos's
- 25:19media company, and Scott Besson's article.
- 25:24The headline is the road map to making America a crypto
- 25:27superpower. So, you know, let let's compare
- 25:32and contrast 'cause I think Bitcoiners live at it on an
- 25:35accelerated timeline, OK? A year ago, Opti and I were
- 25:42seriously considering leaving because the regulatory
- 25:46environment in the United States was extremely hostile.
- 25:50It was not fun. And we're going to talk a little
- 25:53bit about some of the leftovers of that environment.
- 25:56We have an update for you guys regarding the Samurai wallet
- 25:59case and look at what happened. A complete 180 right so we got
- 26:07so much heat when we started advocating for then candidate
- 26:15Trump and then candidate RFK because everyone was like
- 26:19Bitcoin isn't political then then you know this is bad like
- 26:23what are you doing? And we we were those types of
- 26:27people too for a for a long time and it was only until like the
- 26:32samurai wallet guys got arrested where you know there is a famous
- 26:37Opti gate right that Opti and I kind of threw our hat in the
- 26:41ring and we weren't the only ones right the Winklevi Bitcoin
- 26:48magazine. It kind of galvanized our
- 26:51industry to get into politics before we didn't care.
- 26:57I don't think anyone really cared.
- 26:58I remember I, I posted something last year and I had it saved to
- 27:01drafts for such a long time, but I was like, it's probably not a
- 27:07good idea to vote for Biden if you like Bitcoin.
- 27:11And the tweet just blew up. And when a tweet blows up, it
- 27:16means you struck A chord with a lot of people, right?
- 27:18It's the only reason tweets blow up.
- 27:21And I was thinking about, I was like, wow, so kind of everyone's
- 27:25kind of thinking about this, but everyone is looking at it from
- 27:28the traditional left, right, Republican, Democrat type of
- 27:32worldview. And me and Opti were looking at
- 27:35it from like, are you on the side of Bitcoin?
- 27:38Are you on the side of CBD CS? Because that's the only future
- 27:41ahead. Like there is no in between
- 27:44ground. OK.
- 27:45Like Bitcoin is a replacement of the central banking system.
- 27:50Like make no mistake, like the European Central Bank is
- 27:52admitting to this by now, right? They're, they're basically if we
- 27:55don't rule out the CBDC, like we're going to lose control.
- 27:58Like what do you mean control of what?
- 27:59I didn't even know you guys were controlling something in the 1st
- 28:01place, right? So and then you have to kind of
- 28:05get into the argument of like what has resulted in you
- 28:08controlling money in the 1st place.
- 28:09It's been horrific. Like the last 100 years of
- 28:11central banking have been disastrous.
- 28:13World War One, World War 2, the Great Depression, the Great
- 28:17Recession, it all happened under central banking.
- 28:19You can make a very solid argument that the world wars are
- 28:23funded by the money printers, right?
- 28:26So, and then not to mention, which is why I think our, our
- 28:30generation, specifically the millennials and the Gen.
- 28:33Z ers, I mean, the, the, the Alpha Gen. yeah, Gen.
- 28:38Z Ers and the Alpha generations. Like what happened in 2008 with
- 28:42the beginning of the QE experiment.
- 28:44Like I played you guys a clip of Charlie Kirk the other day of
- 28:47him basically saying, like, look, we see the country getting
- 28:51wealthier, but no one can afford anything if you're young.
- 28:55Like what is going on? Well, it's broken money, right?
- 29:00So yeah, I mean, it's a step in the right direction.
- 29:03I agree with Opti. I was hoping for more.
- 29:05I think it was a little bit of a tease, right?
- 29:07But at the end of the day. Nothing ever happened.
- 29:10At the end of the day, guys, I'll say this.
- 29:12Look, in DC, the way it works is if you're not in the room,
- 29:14you're not in deal. We're in the room now.
- 29:16That's number one. Number two, we're part of the
- 29:18donor class now, right in DC. So you think that this just gets
- 29:23released because, you know, Trump just likes Bitcoin?
- 29:28No, it's, we got him elected. That's what you guys have to
- 29:31understand. And then another thing that I'll
- 29:33leave with you guys is that the president of the United States
- 29:37currently has the 6th largest Bitcoin treasury company.
- 29:42So from here to the end of his term, which is 3 1/2 years from
- 29:47now, what do you think the price of Bitcoin is going to do?
- 29:50I'm going to leave that with you guys.
- 29:51Just use, after everything that I just read, you guys, the bull
- 29:55post from Bull Heinz, the bull post from Scott Besson, right?
- 30:00Trump got inaugurated with Bitcoin at 109.
- 30:03It's at 118. Seven months later.
- 30:06What do you think's going to happen?
- 30:08I'll leave that with you guys. It's not rocket science.
- 30:11Even A5 less than a 5X, we're at half, $1,000,000 per coin less
- 30:16than a 5X. So I'll leave that with you guys
- 30:18to kind of ruminate with. It's not rocket science.
- 30:22This thing's going to go to the moon, and I think it's all going
- 30:24to happen during Trump's last term, which is what we're what
- 30:29we're living through right now. Anyways, before we move on to
- 30:32the next segment, we have tons to talk about.
- 30:35We have clips, we have the samurai wallet stuff.
- 30:37Opti's got a culture special for you guys, like always.
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- 33:32today. At the time of recording, the
- 33:42Bitcoin price is $118,280 Price high.
- 33:48I mean block high 907,978 sets per dollar, 845 sets per dollar
- 33:55Market cap 2.35 trillion Bitcoin versus gold market cap 10.04
- 33:59percent 10.05% declined from all time high -4%.
- 34:05We realized monetary inflation .84% of the grand scheme of
- 34:08things. We are just getting the party
- 34:11started. All right, so let's check out
- 34:15this clip. So it's really, really
- 34:17interesting. I always talk about this guy's
- 34:21the Overton window, Overton window, Overton window, right?
- 34:24So this is Jim Cramer, right? Usually when Jim Cramer says
- 34:29something, it's time to sell, but he's saying it's his words,
- 34:34not mine. Jim Cramer just said live on
- 34:38CNBC that Bitcoin is a hedge against the US turning into
- 34:42Weimar Germany. Wow.
- 34:45Let's check out the clip. It's I, I kind of just, I don't
- 34:48even believe it Some. Some.
- 34:50But Bitcoin? Well, Bitcoin, you can put it in
- 34:53the speculation basket, but at the same time, how many
- 34:56companies who are just going over these numbers have are
- 34:59raising money to buy Bitcoin? It's an.
- 35:03It's a normal. I was, in fact, a chance to do
- 35:04it. I said far more.
- 35:05Than has been raised by companies going public.
- 35:08It's because it's almost, it's almost encouraged.
- 35:10I mean the the the SEC chief is like.
- 35:15Yeah, Yeah. This is a very crypto positive
- 35:17administration, no doubt about that.
- 35:19That's been a real positive for all of the different.
- 35:21It's also a great hedge against the the.
- 35:24Which? Is what it is.
- 35:26Michael Saylor would say that right store of value.
- 35:28I I, I, I was with someone whose son took his paycheck and bought
- 35:33bought Bitcoin. I started a job, good job five
- 35:37years ago and now it doesn't really have to work.
- 35:40And he's totally hedge. The kids hedge fathers to work.
- 35:44I'm not kidding. The kids hedge.
- 35:46Look, I mean, this is happening. We won't want to talk about it.
- 35:49Or maybe we think it's fine Mark.
- 35:50Maybe it's fine. Mark 23.
- 35:52I mean, it's not often you create a new asset class and
- 35:55then write the regs around it in real time at the same time
- 35:59that's different and we we don't know what that's going to bring.
- 36:02Well, like the guys from Circle, I mean, I was, I said that maybe
- 36:05there's a possibility that JP Morgan or BlackRock could do a
- 36:09stable coin and you get the usual emails.
- 36:12She's like, you don't know what you're talking about.
- 36:13It's much bigger. I've gotten more I don't know
- 36:15what you're talking about emails since like there's like so many
- 36:17of these, like wait, because every time I know I don't know
- 36:20what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking.
- 36:22So, I mean, you can't really say you're early now if Jim Cramer
- 36:29is saying, I mean, he's not 100% convinced because he's like, we
- 36:32might be in Weimar 23, you know, which is like alluding to
- 36:39horrible things happening in the future, right?
- 36:44So I mean, what do you think Opti?
- 36:47I think it's over for Bitcoin. Jim Cramer's embracing it.
- 36:52It's done, guys. Wrap it up.
- 36:54No more bull run. We had a good run.
- 36:57All this good news coming out of the administration is just going
- 37:01to get naked by the inverse. Kramer, we had a good run.
- 37:05We're going to get a, we're going to get Bitcoin on, on
- 37:06discount. No, I mean, look, I think anyone
- 37:10that has studied money, Fiat money in particular always goes
- 37:15back to that very historic example of Weimar Republic when
- 37:19they hyperinflated. And whether that's where we are
- 37:23right now or whether we have different tools today to kind of
- 37:26combat that hyperinflation or rather hide the hyperinflation,
- 37:31I think it's still kind of like on.
- 37:35It's still something to be seen though, what we are kind of
- 37:39seeing. And I wish we had this for the
- 37:42show today. I don't know what Nico has for
- 37:44the news. I'm going to be completely
- 37:45honest here, but we just saw this CBDC or sorry, the ECB come
- 37:51out and basically capitulate to the CBDC's, which if you're
- 37:55reading this through one perspective, it's basically
- 37:58saying they have lost control and they need more control.
- 38:01And the only reason I'm bringing that up in this context is there
- 38:05is a lot of speculation right now of whether the, you know,
- 38:08Jay Powell and Scott Beston have the economy under control or
- 38:12whether it's completely out of control.
- 38:14And they are just kind of covering it up with vibes and
- 38:17narratives. And if we are in this place
- 38:20right now where we are going to see our currency hyperinflate
- 38:24over the next whatever 10 years or so like that, there's going
- 38:27to be insane volatility in the dollar, which means it will be
- 38:30insane volatility in Bitcoin, which means this is the
- 38:33opportunity of a lifetime and you need to be saving in
- 38:36Bitcoin. But my point remains the same.
- 38:38Jim Cramer's embracing Bitcoin, it's over.
- 38:40We had a good run. We're going to get Bitcoin on
- 38:42discount. I think we're winning, bro.
- 38:46I think we're winning. This is, this is, I don't know,
- 38:49man. It, it, it's so weird.
- 38:51Like I, I have like Stockholm syndrome.
- 38:53We were getting attacked for like 7 years and then all of a
- 38:56sudden everyone and their mother is like friends with Bitcoin.
- 38:59No, but one interesting tidbit that I'll say is like, so like
- 39:05we all kind of go through this like vindication cycle as
- 39:07Bitcoiners where for the first two years, like all, everyone in
- 39:11your family kind of makes fun of you for like buying this and it
- 39:14goes down like 50%. You get wrecked and then like if
- 39:18you stick it through like like 3 or 4 years, like a full cycle,
- 39:21like you look like a genius, like you're just like Oh my God
- 39:24like this this dude like holy cow like.
- 39:26I'm the family genius. Like he, he's a genius.
- 39:28Like what do you mean? He bought Bitcoin?
- 39:31But everyone kind of goes through that now.
- 39:33What's really interesting is last cycle, so between 21 and
- 39:3825, it was Buchele and Sailor and went through that like
- 39:44vindication, right? Like they were both super down
- 39:47on their investment, like strategies stock like plummeted,
- 39:51Buchele stock plummeted. And then out of nowhere, Bom bom
- 39:56bom Bing bro, this thing just blew up.
- 39:58And you know, they look like geniuses, both of them.
- 40:01I think they are geniuses. So what I think is going to
- 40:05happen this cycle is the US government's going to go.
- 40:08Like, the Trump administration's going to go through the same,
- 40:11like, kind of vindication, pay your dues, you know, but they're
- 40:16just delaying this. It take them seven months to
- 40:19say, like, we still haven't bought anything yet.
- 40:22Like, the faster they pay their due.
- 40:24OK, I'll pass this to you, Opti. Does the US government buy the
- 40:28top? I hope so.
- 40:33When the announcement is finally made, is that the top?
- 40:36No, no, no, no. Well, when the announcement is
- 40:39finally made, maybe the top, but they're not going to be buying
- 40:42when they announce it. They're going to be buying
- 40:44before they announce it. So they're going to be packing
- 40:46their bags earlier. So whenever they announce it,
- 40:48maybe that is the top of the cycle.
- 40:50But if they're smart, they're probably going to have been
- 40:53accumulating the whole time. Like, again, listening to Bo
- 40:55Hines, it sounds like they're already starting to accumulate
- 40:59Bitcoin, so they're probably already.
- 41:01Buying. He was like kind of coy about
- 41:03it. And I think he's, I think
- 41:05they're buying. You think they're buying?
- 41:07I think they're. Buying.
- 41:08Man. Dude, you can't come out like
- 41:10just think it through. You can't come out this
- 41:12publicly. I'm men again.
- 41:14Look, I'm no politician. I don't know how federal law
- 41:16fully works here. I'm not sure if this is
- 41:19considered fraud or insider trading here, whatever the the
- 41:22full stipulations are here. But you can as a bitcoiner.
- 41:25You can't go out there and announce these huge buys.
- 41:28We're going to accumulate a million Bitcoin for what, nine
- 41:31months now? Six months at minimum.
- 41:34And you're not accumulating Bitcoin while you're doing that.
- 41:36Like bro, they have to be buying Bitcoin.
- 41:39They just have to be like, it just makes no sense to me.
- 41:43I mean, Bo Hines was super coy about it.
- 41:45So to me it seems like they are accumulating.
- 41:49Yeah. I mean, I don't think it is like
- 41:53again, I don't have any legal. I don't know.
- 41:56I don't know how that works. I don't.
- 41:57Know I don't have any legal advice here, but no, you're
- 41:59just, but you're signaling to the market what you're going to
- 42:02do so the market can front run you in a way like you're not.
- 42:06You don't want people to know like if you're buying at such
- 42:08quantities like I'll give you an example like, do you think?
- 42:12Points still remains the same when they finally announce how
- 42:14much they have they've already been buying so they're signaling
- 42:18what they're going to do that's the like hey so.
- 42:21You think they've? Already bought, dude.
- 42:22I think they got like, it's really the like Trump stuff.
- 42:25You know, you, you project and you Telegraph what you're going
- 42:28to do. And then when you finally
- 42:30announce it, you're like, see, I told.
- 42:31You the US government now it's 1,000,000 Bitcoin like oh man.
- 42:36Yeah. Look, this is it.
- 42:37The press release will be when they are done always is that's
- 42:41what's going on. And again, I don't know the
- 42:43legalities of this, but you know, hey, call me, call me a
- 42:48bad guy, but that's what I'd be doing if I was trying to buy a
- 42:50million coins. Taylor home in the chat.
- 42:53Nico Who's your favorite Heat player of all time?
- 42:55Dwyane Wade obviously bro and people are making fun of my to.
- 43:00Be two people completely clear here my hoodie to be 1 dude to
- 43:04be one No no to be 100% clear here.
- 43:07It is a tourist hoodie and he got it in the airport because he
- 43:10was. Cold.
- 43:11So you're right. I did, I did.
- 43:13I there's a heat store in the airport and I forgot my I forgot
- 43:16my hoodie at home and I, I, I was like, dude, this would be
- 43:20dope. It would look good on the show,
- 43:21but it's funny how people are making fun of it because it
- 43:23looks like a tourist hoodie. Anyways, if you guys are
- 43:27enjoying the show so far, smash that like button.
- 43:30We still have tons to cover. We're we're gonna have, we have
- 43:32an update for you guys regarding the samurai wallet case.
- 43:36Now I know what a lot of you guys are thinking.
- 43:39Nico, why should I give a flying F about all that?
- 43:42Like, look at what you just broke down.
- 43:45Opti's speculating the US government is stealthily buying.
- 43:48You're basically saying it's gonna hit half a million before
- 43:51the end of Trump's term. Like, you know, Trump owns like
- 43:55all this, you know, so he's incentivized for the price to
- 43:57pump. You know, they're telling you
- 43:59bitcoiners are going to be happy.
- 44:00Like they're telling you all these things.
- 44:03Why in the hell are you going to insert negativity into this
- 44:05conversation? Why are you going to turn like?
- 44:08Some real shit's happening. Why are you going to insert
- 44:11negativity into this bullish episode?
- 44:14Cause Nico's cold water on the chat.
- 44:17Sure, because we got to talk about what's happening to our
- 44:23boys from Samurai. Because at the end of the day,
- 44:26what happens is if they set a precedent, that is where there's
- 44:32a slippery slope, right? And that's what I'm watching out
- 44:36for. But breaking news, if you guys
- 44:38haven't been paying attention, this whole saga with the Samurai
- 44:42wallet developers that essentially they wrote open
- 44:46source software. I believe they collected a fee
- 44:48for some of the services they they provided, but essentially
- 44:53it allowed people to use Bitcoin and kind of this private way,
- 44:57right? Like that was the whole point of
- 44:58samurai. And last year, the Treasury
- 45:04Department started going after the developers of a lot of
- 45:08these, a lot of these, you know, a lot of these in a lot of these
- 45:15companies are, you know, places that offered these types of
- 45:17services. And that's why we've been paying
- 45:20attention to this, right? So we're gonna talk about it.
- 45:24We have an update. It's extremely important.
- 45:26You should be paying attention to you.
- 45:28Privacy should not be villainized.
- 45:32Your right to self custody should not be villainized.
- 45:35And your right to transact peer-to-peer should not be
- 45:37villainized. I guarantee you that after this
- 45:41is going to be the villainization of peer-to-peer
- 45:44in self custody. And the foreshadowing that you
- 45:47guys got, because you got a foreshadowing is the fact that
- 45:51the Trump administration felt like it had a necessity to
- 45:55emphasize the fact that Congress has to act on that, right?
- 46:00If they didn't feel like they had a necessity to say that,
- 46:03then they wouldn't have said it. So anyways, let's check out the
- 46:05news. We'll be right back.
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- 50:04it is big breaking, ultra mega breaking update on the Samurai
- 50:09case. I think Opti, you and I have
- 50:12been covering this for like a year, bro.
- 50:14It's almost as if we're journalists or something.
- 50:16It's kind of strange to say that.
- 50:18But yeah, Opti and I have been covering this story, this saga
- 50:22for a year. And it's crazy.
- 50:26And we saw it because I remember when the Tornado Cash stuff
- 50:29started happening, we we were telling you guys you're like,
- 50:32look like they're going after this obscure software that no
- 50:39one knows. And then when they set a
- 50:41precedent, they're going to go after something bigger.
- 50:44And that's exactly. What they did?
- 50:47So a lot of people were speculating that with the Trump
- 50:51administration, this case was going to be dropped, and it did
- 50:55get dropped by the Treasury. So the Treasury dropped the
- 50:58Tornado Cash case. But it seems like the DOJ is
- 51:02still kind of moving forward with a lot of these.
- 51:04And again, these are what I would say leftovers from the
- 51:07previous administration. So anyways, Samurai wallet
- 51:12developers plead guilty to conspiring to operate an
- 51:16unlicensed money transmitting business.
- 51:19OK that's not good news right? So like before they were
- 51:24essentially fighting it. Now here's like the TLDR for
- 51:29like, if you guys don't know about this, when you get charged
- 51:33by the federal government, they have like a 98% prosecution
- 51:37rate, right? So they don't like to move
- 51:41forward cases that they're not 100% sure they can prosecute.
- 51:45And when they do move a case forward and you want to fight
- 51:50it, the odds are not in your favor.
- 51:53So this signals to me and again it's I think it's too early to
- 51:58tell that they made some type of plea deal to reduce the
- 52:03sentence. And this signals to me that also
- 52:09their lawyers must have felt like they couldn't fight it.
- 52:13And I think there is some news coming out Opte that the judge
- 52:20and whatnot was not allowing some of the evidence to be
- 52:22heard, right. Yeah.
- 52:24So again, guys, I've been plugging Lola Elites the Rage
- 52:27for a minute. She's been doing incredible
- 52:29coverage in regards to this case as well as other privacy matters
- 52:33that come up on the Internet. And one of the things that I saw
- 52:36her say, I think it was last week or maybe it was the
- 52:38beginning. It might have been the beginning
- 52:40of this week, but the judge was essentially allowing like chain
- 52:45analytics on like the government side or what's it the prosecutor
- 52:49side, right? But when it came to the Samurai
- 52:53Wallach, you know, defense, they were throwing out that chain
- 52:56analytics for them and saying, oh, this, this has, you know,
- 52:59this is irrelevant to the case. And they're like, bro, like
- 53:02you're you're throwing out literal evidence that you're
- 53:04using on one side and the other side.
- 53:06And I think, you know, where the court is being held is probably
- 53:10the biggest signal of what's going on on here.
- 53:11Of course, it's in New York and they've never been friendly to
- 53:14Bitcoin. And yeah, so it doesn't seem
- 53:18like it's going well for the samurai wallet guys.
- 53:21And like Nika said, the fact that they're pleading guilty to,
- 53:24you know, operating an unlicensed money transmitting
- 53:27business, it seems like they're taking a deal.
- 53:29But I don't know if this article says it, Nika, maybe we can get
- 53:33into it a little more. But I'm guessing they're taking
- 53:36this deal here and pleading guilty to this because the other
- 53:42charges that I believe that they were being charged with were a
- 53:46lot worse. So I, I don't even know if I can
- 53:49say them here on YouTube without triggering these algos, but you
- 53:54know, they, they start with the letter T.
- 53:57So you guys can, you know, start, start looking into that
- 54:00and, and illicit finance and stuff like that.
- 54:02So I think those charges were way worse.
- 54:05So that's probably why they're taking this lesser plea deal
- 54:08here. But I'm I'm guessing this
- 54:10article is going to get into it a lot more.
- 54:12Yeah, so, so shout out to Frank Korva and Bitcoin Magazine for
- 54:17this great coverage. So the headline is Samurai
- 54:20Wallet developers plead guilty to conspiring to operate an
- 54:24unlicensed money transmitting business.
- 54:26Today the founders of Samurai Wallet pled guilty to the second
- 54:30charge in their indictment, conspiracy to operate an
- 54:33unlicensed money transmitting business, despite previously
- 54:36pled not guilty to the charge and back.
- 54:39And I'll give you kind of the TLT, the TLDR guy.
- 54:42So if you plead not guilty and you're found guilty, the judge
- 54:47will normally make the sentence way worse.
- 54:51If you plead guilty to whatever they're charging you with, the
- 54:55judge will normally give you a, a, a, a lesser sentence, right.
- 55:00So there's like, kind of like a, like a strategy to it.
- 55:04So anyways, in back-to-back hearings in the Southern
- 55:06District of New York, which I think is like notorious for
- 55:10like, you know, kind of like trial.
- 55:11They've been attacking Bitcoin and and Bitcoin adjacent
- 55:14companies for a long time. New York is like not a favorable
- 55:18place for any Bitcoin stuff at all.
- 55:20Yeah. So the two founders admitted to
- 55:22playing a role in the transportation or transmission
- 55:25of funds derived from criminal offenses by operating Samurai
- 55:29Wallet, even after knowing that illicitly obtained funds were
- 55:33being moved through the mixing service now.
- 55:36OK. The reason I have a problem
- 55:43against this personally, and again, this is my opinion,
- 55:46right, is what that says is essentially like they wrote
- 55:52software and some people were using that software for illicit
- 55:58purposes. Like they weren't conducting
- 56:05illicit activity. Someone that was using their
- 56:07software was basically conducting illegal activity.
- 56:12And they're kind of, you know, holding them responsible for
- 56:17that. Now I'm going to go back to part
- 56:23of the report that was released by the White House, and This is
- 56:26why they put it in the report. Congress.
- 56:29Congress should codify principles regarding how control
- 56:32over an asset impacts BSA obligations, particularly for
- 56:36money transmitters through legislation such as the
- 56:40Blockchain Regulatory Certainty Act, which has been incorporated
- 56:43into Clarity. Specifically, such legislation
- 56:47could codify that a software provider that does not maintain
- 56:52total independent control over value is not engaged in money
- 56:57transmission for of the BSA. Right.
- 57:03So like you can see right, because like I, I don't think
- 57:07the samurai guys had access right to everyone.
- 57:11Like like I don't know how it. Works.
- 57:13Yeah, that's by default. Right.
- 57:14Like I don't think they had access to this.
- 57:15So like people were using their services.
- 57:17They didn't get to choose who was using their services.
- 57:20But essentially, like they're being held responsible for
- 57:24people using their services. That's like blaming like car
- 57:29manufacturers. That's like blaming the Fed for
- 57:32people using dollars to smuggle illicit activities.
- 57:37Like I'm just trying to. And again, like the reason we're
- 57:40covering this is because it sets a precedent specifically for
- 57:44open source software, right? Like that's the dangerous part.
- 57:49You want to know why Satoshi disappeared?
- 57:51This is why Satoshi disappeared off the face of the planet.
- 57:54This is literally why. So anyways, for their guilty
- 57:58pleas, both Rodriguez and Hill will face a maximum prison
- 58:02sentence of five years, a maximum supervised release
- 58:06period of three years, 250,000 dollar, 250 K, $1000 fines each,
- 58:13and $100 special assessment fee each.
- 58:16Rodriguez and Hill are also required to pay a total of 6.3
- 58:21million between them to satisfy the total amount of assets they
- 58:25agreed to forfeit to the court, $237,000,000.
- 58:30The two founders are required to produce the approximately 6.3
- 58:34million by the sentencing date of November 7th through November
- 58:3930th, 2025 in both Rodriguez and Hill's.
- 58:43What does that say? Allocutions.
- 58:47Thank you allocutions, I'm learning so much with fancy
- 58:50vocabulary today. They shared that from 2015 until
- 58:542024, they operated Samurai together, noting that the
- 58:59service enabled users to transfer Bitcoin from their own
- 59:02wallets to another Bitcoin address.
- 59:04While Samurai obscured the transaction process, they both
- 59:09highlighted that in the process of running Samurai, they came to
- 59:13know that some of the Bitcoin moving through the service was
- 59:16derived from criminal activity, and they kept marketing and
- 59:20operating the service anyway. And Rodriguez's hearing, Judge
- 59:24Coat noted a tweet from the Samurai Wallet Twitter account
- 59:29that read Welcome New Russian Oligarch Samurai Wallet users.
- 59:34I mean. Damn shit post wrecked.
- 59:37Yeah, I mean, it kind of confirms the government's case,
- 59:41right? And in Hills hearing, the judge
- 59:44noted another tweet from the Samurai Wallet developer Twitter
- 59:48account that read Europol also highlighted Samurai Wallet as an
- 59:52emerging top threat. The judge seemingly pointed out
- 59:56these Tweets in an effort to illustrate that not only did the
- 1:00:00Samurai Wallet wallet developers know that criminal actors were
- 1:00:03using the service, but that they seem to take pride in it.
- 1:00:09Judge Coates stated that she was willing to continue with
- 1:00:12existing bail conditions for Rodriguez, which included his
- 1:00:16remaining under house arrest, having Internet access, and not
- 1:00:20being permitted to use cryptocurrency.
- 1:00:22The judge altered bail conditions for Hill through
- 1:00:26stipulating that he can no longer remain under house arrest
- 1:00:29in Portugal and that he would have to do so in the Southeast
- 1:00:33District of New York. Andrew Chan, the member of the
- 1:00:36prosecution presented for both hearings, brought up the fact
- 1:00:39that Hill was being monitored by a private monitoring service in
- 1:00:42Portugal and requested that he now be monitored by pretrial
- 1:00:46services. Judge Coat approved this
- 1:00:49request. Sentencing is scheduled to take
- 1:00:52place on November 7th, 2025, while the defense and
- 1:00:55prosecution are are expected to have all required submissions in
- 1:00:59by October 25th, 2025 and October 31st, 2025 respectively.
- 1:01:05OK, now let's kind of do like a analysis, right of all this,
- 1:01:09right? So I believe there was a couple,
- 1:01:13there was Wasabi and there was samurai Wasabi.
- 1:01:18The Wasabi guys never got charged.
- 1:01:21Why so? And this was very unpopular with
- 1:01:24the Bitcoin community, but the Wasabi guys basically started
- 1:01:31blacklisting, I believe, right? Like they weren't accepting
- 1:01:34transactions from certain Bitcoin addresses to kind of
- 1:01:39avoid all of this. The samurai guys were, you know,
- 1:01:45as the tweets have shown, a lot more hardcore, a little bit more
- 1:01:49hardcore. But as the tweets have shown, it
- 1:01:52plays into the argument that the government is making that they
- 1:01:56were aware that there was, because that's the key.
- 1:02:01Like if they didn't post those things, it'd be hard to prove it
- 1:02:04right? Because like, for better, for
- 1:02:06worse guys like you have to understand this.
- 1:02:08Like at that time, by law, those guys had sanctions on them.
- 1:02:15Like the Russians had sanctions on them, right?
- 1:02:18So we have this kind of like mentality in Bitcoin where it's
- 1:02:21like, look like, you know, Bitcoin is uncensorable.
- 1:02:27You know, it's peer-to-peer, but you can still put a human being
- 1:02:32in a box, bro, Right. So, yeah, I mean, I think it,
- 1:02:40you know, it's hard to argue against that, man, because it
- 1:02:43really proves the point that the government is trying to make,
- 1:02:47right. And again, I'm no legal expert
- 1:02:49here. I'm just like some someone who's
- 1:02:51covered this story for about a year and just mere observations
- 1:02:55just you get, yeah, I think you get decent at something if you
- 1:02:59do it everyday for five years. But yeah, man, I mean, like, I'm
- 1:03:05let's just share the screen, dude, like.
- 1:03:08Yeah, we don't put that back. Out, it kind of sucks.
- 1:03:11Don't put that back. Out It kind of sucks, but like,
- 1:03:14can't really argue against that, right?
- 1:03:17I mean, look, one of the things I've kind of been going down the
- 1:03:21rabbit hole recently is kind of optics around all of us
- 1:03:24Bitcoiners. And you know, I think we can all
- 1:03:27acknowledge that's just like not really good optics.
- 1:03:29I, I get being super hardcore and I still, I'm still hoping
- 1:03:33for the best. And this might be the best case
- 1:03:35scenario considering that they really were throwing the book at
- 1:03:38them. Like there, there was some
- 1:03:39incredibly wild charges that they were getting charged with.
- 1:03:43So this might be the best case scenario that we could hope for.
- 1:03:47And since Nico and I aren't lawyers here, you know, we just
- 1:03:51been covering this. We're just what, quote, citizen
- 1:03:54journalist. I think these are better takes
- 1:03:56here. This is Jake Shervinsky.
- 1:03:59Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:04:00Let me zoom in. There's actually 2 that he
- 1:04:02tweeted. Of course he's a lawyer, as he
- 1:04:05says. I'm not.
- 1:04:05I'm a lawyer. I'm not your lawyer.
- 1:04:08Where else is he? Whatever, he's a lawyer.
- 1:04:11He does stuff in the space with great takes of course on this
- 1:04:16this tweet, this charge, or rather that they are pleading
- 1:04:18guilty, he goes. I never judge a defendant who
- 1:04:21decides to take a plea. Even if they didn't do the
- 1:04:23crime, it's their liberty at risk.
- 1:04:24I assume the DOJ saw how terribly bad the storm trial
- 1:04:28went for them and offered a sweetheart deal to save face.
- 1:04:31Still a sad and chilling day for software developers.
- 1:04:34And then going forward, it's good for the samurai devs that
- 1:04:37they got a deal from the DOJ to plead guilty, but tough to see
- 1:04:40DOJ get away with the false accusation that devs of non
- 1:04:44custodial software are engaged in money transmission.
- 1:04:47Section 1960 is a grave threat to Dell developer freedom.
- 1:04:51It must be amended. So, you know, I'll defer to
- 1:04:54someone that is much more familiar with this than me.
- 1:04:57I mean, but they're basically confirming what we've been.
- 1:04:59Saying 100% yeah though, though just a charge in itself is
- 1:05:02interesting. Like everyone's saying in the
- 1:05:04chat, it's like, OK, like it's Bitcoin money or is it not?
- 1:05:07We need a money transmitter license to deal with the
- 1:05:11software and yet we're still not even kind of considered money.
- 1:05:16It's obviously doublespeak 2 face hypocrisy at its best.
- 1:05:20It's money when it's convenient. For them, of course.
- 1:05:22Of course. Now on that same page, another,
- 1:05:27the other case that is happening right now, it's literally in
- 1:05:31deliberation as we speak currently.
- 1:05:34Oh, let me pull this up. The Tornado Cash case, they are
- 1:05:37literally they're, they're the jury's deliberating on this,
- 1:05:42right? Like literally as we speak, they
- 1:05:44said an hour ago they should get an answer, AKA the US verse
- 1:05:48storm case, which is a Tornado Cash stuff.
- 1:05:51We we don't know what's gonna what's gonna happen here.
- 1:05:54It seems like they they're currently deliberating.
- 1:05:56They've asked for more evidence. So two big things happening
- 1:06:00basically on the same day. So I think Jake take it might be
- 1:06:05the the signal here. You know, maybe they saw how bad
- 1:06:08this case was handled. If they get off, you know, or
- 1:06:12rather a Roman storm gets off here.
- 1:06:15I, you know, we might have one good precedent being set, maybe
- 1:06:20that's hopeful for what happened with the Samurai wallet guys,
- 1:06:22considering they got a couple of months to kind of handle this.
- 1:06:25And to be completely clear, guys, they are being handled in
- 1:06:28the same core in SDNY or yeah, and I think it's the same judge
- 1:06:33if I'm not mistaken. So there's still may be some
- 1:06:37hope here. But I think, you know, as Jake
- 1:06:41was saying like that this is probably the best deal they're
- 1:06:44going to get, Well, you know, we we still kind of have to hold
- 1:06:48our breath. It's not looking good.
- 1:06:51Yeah, I mean, like I said, like if you go to, if you risk going
- 1:06:57to jury, like you have the the, the opportunity to be
- 1:07:02vindicated, right And like not be proven guilty and then you're
- 1:07:05Scott free. But if you are proven guilty,
- 1:07:08the judge is usually a little bit more harsh with sentencing.
- 1:07:11So when you see these types of like they took a deal, right,
- 1:07:14which is what I was saying in the beginning, right?
- 1:07:17They basically said we're guilty to a lower charge.
- 1:07:21And then the government's going to take into the, the judge is
- 1:07:24going to take that into account when he sentences them.
- 1:07:26Do I think they'll serve? And again, I'm not a judge or
- 1:07:29I'm not a lawyer or any of that, just mere observer.
- 1:07:32Do I think they'll serve the full three years?
- 1:07:35No, I don't think so. I think they'll get less than
- 1:07:38that, but my point remains the same.
- 1:07:43They're trying to make an example.
- 1:07:45This is like, you know, the reason Ross got, you know.
- 1:07:48And again, I'm not going to get into the legality of what he was
- 1:07:52doing and what not, but like the reason I could say this as an
- 1:07:57opinion, this is safe to say as an opinion.
- 1:08:02Do I think it's fair that he got three life sentences?
- 1:08:05No, that was not fair at all, right?
- 1:08:08That was not unfair. That wasn't cool whatsoever.
- 1:08:12But they were trying to make an example out of Ross and that
- 1:08:16wasn't cool, right? And I think they're trying to do
- 1:08:18the same thing here, right? So you know, I'm, I'm working
- 1:08:23under constraints because but yeah, it's it's unfortunate,
- 1:08:29man. It's unfortunate to say the
- 1:08:31least. But we'll stay on top of it.
- 1:08:33We'll give you guys an update on the Tornado Cash case tomorrow.
- 1:08:36We'll give you guys an update on the Tornado, on the Tornado Cash
- 1:08:39and the Samurai case as it develops.
- 1:08:42But this is something as a Bitcoiner you should be paying
- 1:08:45attention to because again, it's setting a very, very dangerous
- 1:08:49precedent. And then it's deincentivizes
- 1:08:52software development and it also anonymizes software development,
- 1:08:57right? You know, a fundamentally code
- 1:09:00is speech, right? Code is a form of speech.
- 1:09:03Like you can't convince me that data like numbers or whatever on
- 1:09:08a keyboard is somehow dangerous. Like you can't convince me of
- 1:09:10that. So anyhow, guys, we're going to
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- 1:09:20Kind of more doomy a little bit, I'm not going to lie.
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- 1:11:31Taking my screen off All right guys I.
- 1:11:34Wasn't on in the 1st place. I put it full on and then I was
- 1:11:37like, I feel bad because I made it full on.
- 1:11:39No no no, he's lying. All right guys, I saw this
- 1:11:43thread and you know me, I love anything that firms my own bias
- 1:11:47here, but I found this thread super interesting.
- 1:11:50So this guy, Felix Pren, apparently an ex bankster, maybe
- 1:11:56maybe that's, you know, yeah, maybe maybe that's his authority
- 1:12:01here. So he, you know, basically he's
- 1:12:04framing it like I'm been on the inside, but there is some
- 1:12:06bankster. Bankster.
- 1:12:08Yeah. What did I say?
- 1:12:09I mean, it sounds notorious. It sounds.
- 1:12:10Bankster not AI mean a bank. Totally a gangster.
- 1:12:14We're talking about the same thing.
- 1:12:16It's like. That's an opinion.
- 1:12:18Synonym, Sure, it's my opinion, not simply bitcoins anyways.
- 1:12:23Anyways, anyways, let's get through this thread because
- 1:12:28really like I like this thread guys.
- 1:12:31I really do like the thread, but it's funny at the end he does
- 1:12:35the basically like join my paid group stuff and you know he's
- 1:12:40totally missing the mark in regards to Bitcoin, which is
- 1:12:42probably because he used to work at a bank.
- 1:12:44But anyways, it goes Bank of America just dropped a massive
- 1:12:47warning. We're in a bubble
- 1:12:48biggerthanthe.com crash. I repeat, a bubble
- 1:12:51biggerthanthe.com crash. And he's got data to back this
- 1:12:55up. So 38% of the S&P 500 is
- 1:12:58concentrated in just ten companies. the PE ratios hit 27X
- 1:13:02versus 25X in 2000. So we are two times bigger or 2X
- 1:13:08more than in 2000. So from 25 to 27 X and he goes,
- 1:13:14here's a full picture. And of course, and he literally
- 1:13:17doesn't really give you much advice, but we're giving you the
- 1:13:20advice here because you just need to buy Bitcoin.
- 1:13:23But I'm going to explain the problem anyways.
- 1:13:24First. So let's look at the
- 1:13:25concentration problem. Bank of America's charge.
- 1:13:29Bank of America's chart, He can't even smell.
- 1:13:32Chart shows something alarming. 38% of the entire S&P 500 is
- 1:13:36concentrated in the top ten companies.
- 1:13:39In 2000 it was Microsoft, Intel and Oracle.
- 1:13:41In 2020, Microsoft and Apple. Now it's just a few names again.
- 1:13:46You can see market cap dominance here.
- 1:13:49It's you know, it's going, it's going pretty high.
- 1:13:52Top 10 weights in the S&P 500 last week hit 37.3% of the index
- 1:13:56near the 38% level it reached in January, which has been its
- 1:13:59highest level on record, according to S&P Dow Jones
- 1:14:02indexes, citing data since 1975. And I don't know if you guys
- 1:14:06been watching the Main Street, but you know, S&P 500, I think
- 1:14:10it was like broke 11 record highs this year alone is just
- 1:14:14constantly hitting the all time high.
- 1:14:16And everyone that's like the Wall Street guy, S&P 500, all
- 1:14:20the boomers out there are just super hyped.
- 1:14:22They're like, man, we're making so much money.
- 1:14:24This is great. And everyone on our side's like,
- 1:14:27Nah, I think, I think there's a bigger problem in the system
- 1:14:31anyways. And he goes, think you're
- 1:14:33diversified by buying the index. You're not.
- 1:14:35You're basically buying the top ten companies and a bunch of
- 1:14:37underperforming stuff underneath.
- 1:14:39That's the reality of today's market concentration.
- 1:14:42And here's another way to see the bubble forward PE ratios.
- 1:14:45That's today's price divided by the next year's expected
- 1:14:48profits. In the 2000 bubble, top
- 1:14:51companies traded at 25 times earning.
- 1:14:53Right now, we're at 27 times earning.
- 1:14:56We're actually more expensive than in the.com peak.
- 1:15:00I don't know. It sounds like a bubble to me.
- 1:15:02So should you panic and sell everything?
- 1:15:04And then, you know, he's like, I'm not trying to be doom and
- 1:15:06gloom and look around at previous rallies.
- 1:15:09It can go higher. You know, when when markets get
- 1:15:12irrational, it could go higher for what's the saying?
- 1:15:14You know, it could be irrational longer than you can be solvent.
- 1:15:18This is kind of what he's saying.
- 1:15:19We can still go up higher from here, but he's kind of just
- 1:15:23saying on the writing on the wall, it's we're, we're in the
- 1:15:26midst of a bubble here and everything bubble, as I think
- 1:15:29Larry Leopard used to say, you know, it's done in the past, it
- 1:15:33can do it again. And the data is backing this up.
- 1:15:35It could continue on for days, if not months.
- 1:15:38And he says this is where he really goes off the the rules
- 1:15:41here, you know, so where are the real opportunities hiding?
- 1:15:44There's actually a list of the most heavily shorted stocks that
- 1:15:46can squeeze next. They are the powder kegs waiting
- 1:15:49to explode. Look, you don't have to DM him,
- 1:15:51retweet and comment the rules and he'll give you his trading
- 1:15:54group, etcetera, etcetera. You don't have to buy more
- 1:15:58companies that are literally a part of the system.
- 1:16:01He's literally talking about diversifying into indexes, but
- 1:16:04then he's going to tell you to diversify into, you know, the
- 1:16:06companies that are really going to make it.
- 1:16:09Guys just buy Bitcoin. But I think this, this, this
- 1:16:13data here coming from Bank of America is very interesting,
- 1:16:16kind of showing, hey, we are probably in the everything
- 1:16:19bubble and not to be a full doom and gloomer.
- 1:16:21I know Larry Lepard's been saying this for a while.
- 1:16:23Max Keiser's been saying this for a while.
- 1:16:26Like we are in the midst of the everything bubble.
- 1:16:29And they'll a lot of people out there like your normie friends
- 1:16:31and family think they're getting richer because of their houses
- 1:16:35or their S&P 500 stonks. You know, indexes are going up.
- 1:16:40It's it's the currency that's getting naked right now, guys.
- 1:16:43And even even though the Trump administration's doing a lot of
- 1:16:47things to kind of maintain dollar dominance, why, why
- 1:16:50continuing playing the same games?
- 1:16:52Just buy some Bitcoin, Bitcoin and chill.
- 1:16:54You know, start a start a Bitcoin podcast or something.
- 1:17:01Go hang out with your bitcoiners, eat some steaks.
- 1:17:04But yeah, yeah, it's. Way to way to kill the buzzkill.
- 1:17:10Well, you know, sometimes I got to be the the cold water, not
- 1:17:14just you. Yeah.
- 1:17:20I mean, yeah, you think it's true.
- 1:17:25Yeah, I mean, well, I'm also biased.
- 1:17:28So we're going into a bear market, bro.
- 1:17:30A Rick is a. Bear market, dude, I I don't
- 1:17:32know, I don't know. As he said, it could go higher,
- 1:17:34longer and really like the idea here.
- 1:17:37Does he have a paid group? It sounds.
- 1:17:39Like it sounds like, he said. To get me and I'll.
- 1:17:43Give you the stock picks. I think we can still go higher
- 1:17:49longer. And again, like I was going to
- 1:17:51say, it really kind of boils down to the trust in the system.
- 1:17:55If people fundamentally lose trust in the system quickly,
- 1:17:58they have to find a home. You know, they have to find
- 1:18:02somewhere to store their capital.
- 1:18:03And obviously you want to be the first one out of the door, but
- 1:18:06from what I see, for most people, they're just, they're
- 1:18:11just playing musical chairs within the system and they're
- 1:18:13going to get absolutely wrecked. So you're saying bear market?
- 1:18:18I think I'm going more on like a Great Depression number.
- 1:18:22Two dude. Wow.
- 1:18:24OK. Oh, then we've already been in a
- 1:18:29recession for the last year or two, right?
- 1:18:32Man, I mean, Trump's going to get wrecked, bro.
- 1:18:35Well, that was the plan for bitcoins gonna get wrecked.
- 1:18:37Now, actually, actually, you know, being a little more
- 1:18:39favorable, you know, being a, what do you call it, a Niko tard
- 1:18:43here, a MAGA tard here. I think what's really going to
- 1:18:47play out is the US dollar being the strongest one will probably
- 1:18:51be able to scathe as much pain as possible, but the EU is going
- 1:18:55to get absolutely devastated. Every other currency is going to
- 1:18:58get wrecked. I think I'm, I'm starting to
- 1:19:01lean into just how much of A genius Scott Besson is.
- 1:19:06Remember, he was part of George Soros Foundation or one of his
- 1:19:09companies. So he knows how to destroy other
- 1:19:12currencies. And I'm I'm kind of backing him
- 1:19:14to maintain our dominance. But that's cuz I'm an American.
- 1:19:19I don't wanna see my family get wrecked.
- 1:19:21But I've been telling them to buy Bitcoin.
- 1:19:23So again, not to the full doom porn here doom be fear
- 1:19:28mongering. Just buy Bitcoin saving Bitcoin
- 1:19:32Continue to save in Bitcoin. But hey, this might be some
- 1:19:35information you want to share to your your friends and family.
- 1:19:38Again, way to kill the. Buzz bro someone in the chat.
- 1:19:40The Magician depression will bring BTC down 90.
- 1:19:43Percent. Hey, we get a 90% discount.
- 1:19:45Let's go. People are quoting you Nico.
- 1:19:48Nico as a it's. True, Ron, It's so true.
- 1:19:53Right, bro? At least I, I voted for Ross's
- 1:19:56freedom, man. At least I could say that.
- 1:19:58That's not my conscious bro, so you know.
- 1:20:01Anyways, lady, lady, says Nico, you're so patient with this
- 1:20:05dude. God bless you.
- 1:20:06I I. Am patient.
- 1:20:08With him, I appreciate it. You know, some people don't see
- 1:20:11it, you know, I like to give myself credit, but I appreciate
- 1:20:15you, lady. Lady, dude, the chat's turning
- 1:20:19against you, bro. You know what?
- 1:20:21Let's end the show. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
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