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Former Yankees catcher Jim Leyritz joins the show! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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the speedster. He's dancing and prancing at 30
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www.worldwidesportsradio.comsmedialike. My, my mouth is like on my mic
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today. I'm, I'm like slobbering all
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over it. I, I, I just, I'm so excited to
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celebrate your 30th birthday. Hopefully you don't throw up
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because every single year in the last three years I've taken, I
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have taken you out. Oh, wait a second.
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One of the years on my birthday, you were hiding in the bathroom
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because you were claiming no, you had the runs I.
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Yes, I did have the. Runs.
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No, you were. You weren't throwing up.
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No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have kept dancing if
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I if I was throwing up. Speedy, you weren't dancing
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after that, you went. To that other club in Patchogue
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after that and I was dancing. Dude, I don't remember.
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Dancing Speedy What's your drink of choice on your birthday?
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Well, that a beer. Well, I had.
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Beer, I had beer there. There were other what was the
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other drinks that we had the the the first time with the the the
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pineapple stuff was what was that the?
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The Apple stuff. Yeah, I don't remember the name
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of it. At Fire Island was a rocket
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something that we had a Fire Island, those other.
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Years rocket fuels. Yeah, yeah, it must have been
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those that got something and along with the the wings like
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the. Wings and you were throwing up
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all over it was. Yeah, that was 2022, that was.
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A rock. I had to, you know, I was trying
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for one second. I told him to go to the to go go
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to the garbage and barf in the garbage because I saw it in his
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face and he was like standing at the table.
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I'm like go to the garbage. By the time he went to the
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garbage, he was throwing up all over the place, and I mean all
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over the place. You're talking about security.
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Then I had somebody come up to me, one of the security guards
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that is a friend of mine actually came up to me and told
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me, Yo, is your, your friend Hawking that girl over there?
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She came up to me and said that he, he was up, he was like
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abusing her or like it was very threatening.
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I was like, what was threatening about it?
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I didn't see anything. Well, she said that he was like
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up on her face, like bothering us since she said hello.
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And when he said hello, I mean, I was weird.
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I, I, I didn't know what to say and I didn't see it.
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And I, I was trying to protect speedy as I always do, because,
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you know, he's like a little brother.
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He's like the little engine that could or couldn't.
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Well, we're trying to put some, you know, oil in that edge.
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And so he could start rocking and jocking, if you know what.
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I mean, yeah, that's that's what Nathan's goal is in his.
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Life. Well, it's everybody's goal.
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I would like to see you, you know, sit on somebody's face,
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you know? Yeah, that's never going to
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happen with you around. Well, wouldn't.
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It be. Wouldn't it be the other way
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around? No, sweetie.
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Sweetie needs to learn how you know first.
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He's got to learn that way before he learns the other way.
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If you know. I'm not learning anything from
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people that you've brainwashed. I'm not braining.
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I'm not braining. I'm not brainwashing anybody.
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By the way, I almost said Dante Beau Bichette actually just hit
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a two run home run. So I think the Yankees are
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starting to say, Louis, take me away, Speedy, you want to sing
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that song? No, that's a happy.
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Birthday Nathan has to sing for my birthday.
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That's all of. That Nathan can.
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I would love to hear Nathan sing and actually say this.
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That's. My I need a gin and tonic.
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That would be cool Gin tonic. Watch.
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Watch him come out and sing and be like.
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Super super. That is how I want the song to
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finish. I need a gin and tonic.
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That is actually literally how I want the song to finish.
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Lick it and stick it. As he always does, he licks.
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Everything he sticks. I request Nathan to finish the
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song with the gin and tonic. Ball bag.
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Speedy's ball bag Speedy, How big is your ball bag?
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No. I.
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Don't. Are you cocking or you're
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doodling? I don't know.
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We need to work on getting Tootsie roll fruities as.
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Fruities and Tootsie, by the way, Java.
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Speaking of sponsor. It was funny.
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I don't know if you saw the video before they had the So the
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Browns were unveiling a new helmet.
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By the way, one guy. Speedy, do you have a helmet?
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The dude, the dude fell off and then dude wipes.
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Yep. So you deleted it.
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Yeah, dude, dude wipes. As long as she's using dude
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wipes and taking care of my 2 hole.
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I'm just saying that that guy said he had a lot of dude wipes.
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Speedy, do you have a do you have a little helmet or is it
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not circumcised? I have.
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I had a set of the NFL helmets as when I was a kid.
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No, but is it circumcised or do you have a little helmet?
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Oh, what do you what do you think I.
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I had the little collection of the NFL helmets.
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As a no, but is it circumcised or I don't know.
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So you don't know if you have a little helmet?
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Not with me, ladies. I bet those little helmet, I bet
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those little helmets are worth something these days.
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Well, I'm not talking about that little helmet.
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Well, I was trying to change the subject.
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No, you're getting. You're eating your Tootsie roll.
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You're your blueberry Tootsie Roll.
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No, no, it's there's blue Raspberry.
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I can't show the green one because it won't show up.
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I Oh God, I. Try to show the green one.
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I like Tootsie rolls, but I can't eat them in different
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colors. I have to eat them in chocolate.
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That and I I you ever go to you ever go to a gym and Planet
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Fitness one of them? I don't go to Planet Fitness
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anymore. But when when you go to Planet
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Fitness, they have Tootsie rolls when you walk in.
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Has anybody seen that? And they have pizza night on
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Mondays. Like you're a gym and you're
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selling, you're giving away pizza to make people fat.
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I mean, if that must be even either the worst, the worst
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advertisement or the best, depending on if you're bringing
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in people, bringing in more people because they're fat to
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your gym. I don't know, cardio.
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Stay away from that pizza, ladies and gentlemen.
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But they have Tootsie rolls all the time.
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Every time I would leave I'd grab like 8 or 9 Tootsie rolls
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and I'd I'd put them in my car and thank God I didn't leave
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them in my cup holder because if it was summertime it would have
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been melted like. Oh, those are melted.
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That have been gross. Absolutely too gross as hell.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's been waiting commonly and
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carefully as he always does. We are now talking to our 2nd
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guest. Well, we didn't have a first
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guest because he accidentally had something to do at the last
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minute. So we have our 2nd guest and
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we're now talking to 11 year MLB catcher Jimmy Lawrence.
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Jimmy, what's up? What's happening fellas?
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How we doing? We're good, man.
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You look good, man. I, I will say this.
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The last time I saw you, I said you look the same you did when
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you played for the Yankees in the 90s.
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You look good, man. You look like you're in shape.
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You're taking good care of yourself.
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You're in probably better shape now than you did when you did
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play. Well, yeah, I don't drink as
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hard as I did when I played. Well, I really appreciate,
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obviously you giving us the time.
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You're a busy guy. The last time you were on our
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show, you were in a you were at a playoff game.
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You were at the Yankees playoff game if I'm not mistaken, it was
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against Cleveland. Kansas City, KS City.
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I remember that well because the the 1st guest we had on that day
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was the Savannah Bandana coach Adam Vyrant, who's a big Royals
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fan and he said he was at the previous game.
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Then you were the selected guest actually at the game.
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And we we had a lot of conversations about obviously
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the Yankees and what the Yankees have to do to get through to the
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next round. And you were pretty much on
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point on where the Yankees were in the playoffs, especially
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against Kansas City. So my question here to you is
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I'm watching the Yankees right now.
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It's absolutely putrid. I have watched terrible defense
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after terrible defense all season long.
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You have a guy that Anthony Volpe who was two years ago, he
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was side what was I'm sorry, not go glove winner, great defensive
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player and now all of a sudden he went from a great defensive
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player to one of the worst defensive players in the MLB.
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Statistics would show you ERA wise and the guy couldn't hit a
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broad right. What did they call it the broad
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side of a barn outside of the barn.
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Yes, as we've heard, what is going on with the Yankees?
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What's going on with some of the youngsters that they've had over
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the last couple of years? And why are the Yankees one of
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the worst defensive teams in the first half in all of baseball?
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That is the answer we're all looking for right now.
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It's reared its head just recently more than it has all
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season. I couldn't tell you the answer.
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One of the things I will say is we've been saying it for the
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last five years about this team. They are the worst fundamental
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team that I've ever seen. And I'm not talking just
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fielding, but also running the bases, knowing how to play the
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game. It's just they've gone so Saber
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metric that it's it's these guys just don't know how to play the
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game anymore. So again, who gets the bulk of
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the the responsibility for that? They were debating on Monday
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whether it should be an Aaron Boone thing.
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Is it a prospect prospect development thing?
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I know the Yankees been criticized for that in the past,
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too. Brian Cashman criticizing the
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analytics department. Where do you think the
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accountability comes from with that?
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I think Jabba can speak to that. I mean, Jabba was there when all
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this shit started, you know, and when they when they had all
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these new ideas and everything else happening and you know, the
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bottom line, by the way, hey, Jabba, what's going on?
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But you know, for me, it starts in the minor leagues.
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And over the last five years, from what I've been told is
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there's one minor league coach, Shelley Duncan, who has any
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Major League experience in the entire minor league
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organization. That wasn't like it when we were
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playing. You know what, when I was
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playing, I had Clete Boyer, Ron Guidry, Hoyt Wilhelm, I mean
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Frank Howard. You had some names that really
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taught you. Buck Showalter was, even though
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he wasn't a big leaguer, he was a lifetime Yankee minor league
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guy stuck behind Don Mattingly. And he taught us what it meant
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to be, but also taught us how to play the game.
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And unfortunately, I think what you're seeing is you're seeing
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all these young kids coming up that just don't know how to play
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the game anymore. I I think it's a nail on the
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head too. I think it's just not not how to
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play the game, but knowing how to play it.
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And like, yeah, now everybody looks at launching and looks the
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other stuff. But you bring up a great point
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of of having the knoweth all to like as if words fundamentally
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sound like yes, it's not sexy, but you know, runner on 2nd no
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outs. I don't care if you flap one
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over here to the right side, you do your job.
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It doesn't look sexy. But no, the game have some feel.
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And that's that's the thing where it's like you're looking
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at all these numbers and that's like, you know, when Joe came
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in, he had Joe's book and it was all the analytical stuff and all
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these other things. It's like you got to watch the
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product. I mean, you got to watch in the
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flow and how the game is going. And I just, I don't think
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there's enough of that anymore. And I think it all starts in the
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minor leagues because now they're all taught like, OK,
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what, what is your horizontal and vertical like drop?
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What's your spin rate? It's like, I don't care if I'm
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getting outs. Do I really need to worry about
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anything else? Like at the end of the day, if I
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get now, would could Jamie Moyer play right now?
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Well, according to the favorite metric people know, I say yes.
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100%. Right.
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Yeah. Like that, that are literally
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would we have the Dustin Pedroias, would we have?
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I mean, there's so many we can name where that's like, it
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doesn't stand off at you because they don't have spin rates, they
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don't have this. But you know what?
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They're grinders. They know how to play the game.
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They lay bunts down, they get runners over, they make routine
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plays like and it's just, it's what?
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Job you played you played with Derek Jeter.
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I mean Jeter didn't you didn't have to tell Derek Jeter in a
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late in the game. If there's a man on 2nd with
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less than you know, with nobody out, guess what he's going to
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bunt for a base hit. He's still trying to get a hit,
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but he's still butting for a base hit to get the runner over
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late in the game. And I mean, listen, I, I, I
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don't, you hear a bunch of stuff.
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I'm at the stadium every night. I don't, I don't interact with
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the players at all. They don't let us do that
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anymore. Steinbrenner would be the first
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one to walk you into the locker room and say go talk to so and
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so right now, you if I don't, it's not just me.
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Any former Yankee, unless you're the Derek Jeter's or the
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Mariano's or the CC, they're not going to let you anywhere near
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that clubhouse for these kids to learn something because they
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don't want to hear. Well, this is what we would do.
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This is how we played. This is how we did it.
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And guess what? That's the last time the Yankees
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won championships. You know, it's, it's, it's one
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of those things that you know, Anthony Volpe all winter long, I
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was down in Tampa for the fantasy camps in in November and
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January and he was working out at the complex and he was
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working. I hit the ball the other way and
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he was doing all these things. He was going to improve.
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He starts to season off, He's on fire.
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He's hitting the ball all over the place.
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From what I was told, again, I don't know this, I'm not saying
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I know this for sure, but from what I was told was that there
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was a game, there was a runner on 2nd, nobody out.
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He hit a ground ball to the right side of the infield, move
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the runner over. And he was chastised by this
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sabermetric people saying, what are you doing?
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You're supposed to be hitting home runs in that situation.
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And all of a sudden, he started going back to this home run
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swing, and his average went from 270 to 210 now.
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And he can't find himself again. And it's now carrying it over
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into the infield to where before when his defense was so good,
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both sides of his game right now.
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And I think it's more, I think it's more mental than anything
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else. We are talking to 11 year MLB
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catcher Jim Lawrence. He played for the Yankees for a
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very long time, played from 1990 to 2000, including nine years
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with the Yankees. It's incredible to see this
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guy's career. I remember him in 95.
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I remember him all those years, especially when the Yankees were
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starting that dominant run all the way in the 90s, which they
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were to me as good A-Team built in the 90s as any Yankee team.
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When you compare some of the great Yankee teams, the Mickey
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Mantels, the Roger Maris's, the DiMaggio teams, even the Babe
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Ruth teams, I think the 90 Yankees are definitely
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comparable to all those teams. You know, Jimmy, we, we look at
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obviously what Aaron Judge is doing right now, it's, it's
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unbelievable. It's sensational.
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Watching a guy that came into the league at 24 years old,
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nobody realized how special he was except the Yankees.
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And then he became A5 tool player.
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He's played out of position. Last year, the first error he
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even had was in the World Series, which was a big one.
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And then you look what type of hitter he's become.
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He went from a power hitter and considered not a batting average
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hitter to a batting average hitter, a career 300 hitter with
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the power and the quick the quickest to 350 home runs.
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When you look at Aaron Judge and you look at the great Yankees,
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when you're when he's done, and I know he has a lot more base to
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go, is he going to be compared to the Mickey Mantle's, the Joe
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Dimaggio's, the Babe roots? Or is he going to be compared to
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the Derek Cheaters, the Mariano Rivera's of the world?
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Where would you consider Aaron Judge and what does he have to
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do to be considered Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio or Mickey Mantle?
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The only way you get the tally of a Yankee legend, he's going
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to be a legend because of the numbers that he puts up in the
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book in the during the season. But Job will tell you, you don't
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win in the postseason. They don't remember you.
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It's been probably the biggest Achilles heel for Don Mattingly
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and the Hall of Fame because Donnie never got to the World
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Series, never won a World Series.
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Aaron Judge, if he does not win a championship, I don't care how
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great. New York will never consider him
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that that in on that level. And I think that's it.
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I think that's like his Achilles heel right now has been the
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postseason. And until he can get past that.
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Jabba, you played with him a rod.
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How many years was everybody called a rod the biggest choke
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artist in the postseason? And then all of a sudden 2009 he
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has a good postseason and all of a sudden now he's he's always
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still a rod. He's a rod, you know.
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Yeah, it just takes one year, Doesn't matter.
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Exactly. Yeah, it just takes one.
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And once you get that off your back, it's it.
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I guess you can take a deep breath.
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I mean, obviously for those other guys, they've they've
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obviously had more of them. And you know how that feels.
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And it's just, you know, if if you don't get there, will he go?
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Will he be remembered as a great Yankee?
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Yes, but to be considered a legend and to be like the names
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that you mentioned, Ariel, if you don't win it, just like we
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remember names like Jerry Hairston who had a big stolen
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base force in O9, Damacio Marte, who wasn't who should have been
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the MVPI mean he didn't give up a hit in the playoffs.
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And like guys like you remember because they won.
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Phil Cokes of the world, like I mean Alfredo Osevis, names you
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would never remember, but it's because they won and they're
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forever be, you know, remembered in that.
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So will he go down as one one of the greats?
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Because I think he's got a good 5-6 good years in him.
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How long we'll be able to play the outfield for that that's to
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be seen. But if you don't win it, it's it
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definitely changes the moniker of what stature you're on.
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Will what if he if he doesn't win, is he going in Monument
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Park? Hell no.
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Well, that's one of the reasons I'm on your show tonight.
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Listen, I hit a big home run in 1995, walk off against Seattle,
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second game of the playoffs. We went up two games and none.
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It was Don Matto in his first time in the postseason.
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We we thought we would win that series.
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And last by the. Way, exactly.
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And, and go on and we end up losing the series and that home
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run just became a footnote. And then 96, I hit that home run
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and it just tied the game up, but it swung the momentum and we
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end up winning. And that home run became so big
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because we won. And that was the difference
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because we won. Aaron Boone would have the
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greatest home run in all of Yankee history had the Yankees
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won the 2003 World Series. But they didn't.
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So it's still a great home run, but it's not remembered if, if
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you remember, Andy Chavez for the Mets made a tremendous
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catch, which would have been gone down and they didn't win.
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So it's just another great catch in world history that you have
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to win. And I think that's the whole
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thing. I think Aaron Judge, in order to
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be remembered as a great Yankee, not just a great player, but a
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great Yankee, you have to win a couple championships.
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So I want to go to a guy that's been a kind of a polarizing
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topic on our show. Errol doesn't like him, Jabba
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likes him. Jazz Chisholm, he's put up good
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numbers at the plate, but he said some some crazy antics as
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well. Where do you stand on the Jazz
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Chisholm experiment so far for the Yankees?
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You know what? It's so funny because I, I
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listen to people all the time. I'm one of those guys that says,
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OK, you know what? I'm old school.
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I don't like it. But guess what?
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I don't play in this era. And for some reason this entire
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era wants all this stuff. They like the pitch clock, which
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I would hate Jabba. He would hate the pitch clock.
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Yeah, I, I don't like, like the disengagements of like being
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able to hold well. And it sucks too, because that
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takes away me playing the chess game of holding and holding and
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holding. And OK, now I got to step off
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and now it's already hard enough to pitch, but now I got to
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think, OK, did I disengage once or twice?
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Did I pick over? Did I step off?
21:07
And so it's just I, I, the time wise, it wouldn't bother me
21:12
because I'd like to work quick anyways.
21:14
But as far as like playing the game of on the mound, holding
21:17
runners, looking and now in the back of your mind, you got to
21:19
look out of the corner of your eye and be like, oh, I better
21:21
get rid of this. I mean, a great pitch at 32 and
21:24
you, you end up walking the guy on a pitch clock.
21:26
No, I'd be pissed. Yeah, so, yeah, So my point is,
21:29
yes, is, is is Jazz Chisholm my cup of tea.
21:32
Well, he's wearing #13 so I do like that, OK.
21:36
But no, it's he's not your traditional type of Yankee
21:42
player. But there isn't those.
21:44
We got beards now. I mean, Jabba, would you have
21:47
not loved to have a beard as a Yankee?
21:49
Yeah, I mean, obviously it wouldn't be this big, but, but
21:54
yeah, I mean, I just necessarily not, not so much, but it's just
21:58
like everyday like being told and scolded, like I'm a kid,
22:02
like I'm a grown man. Like I'll keep it professional.
22:06
But like getting kicked out of the dugout and like getting told
22:10
as you I was like, we don't start for another 3 hours.
22:13
Like I'm just trying to get my stuff ready.
22:15
I can shave in 5 minutes. Like I can be ready.
22:17
So yeah, that's, I mean, obviously keep it neat and tight
22:21
and whatever, but it's, it's, it's different and I, I it's
22:26
changed. The game has changed in so many
22:28
ways. I hate the analytical part of
22:30
it. I think there is some part of
22:32
the analyticals that are OK, but there's not enough baseball
22:35
people in it. It's a good tool.
22:38
Yeah, yeah, but it's not the crutch.
22:40
Exactly. And it doesn't, it doesn't tell
22:42
me, you know what, what what what the guy has in his heart,
22:46
the fight that a guy has, what's he going to do in in big
22:50
situations? But but going back to Jazz
22:53
Chisholm, listen, he's like I said, he's a different cup of
22:56
tea. He's very talented.
22:59
He's got a lot of talent. He fits into the locker room
23:04
pretty good. Most of the guys that I know of
23:07
that they've talked about, they they kind of accepted
23:10
everything, but if you're not winning, it's an issue.
23:16
You know what? I'm winning, Jim.
23:19
You know what I call it? I call it the Jism Express.
23:22
That's what I call it because hop on the Jism Express and I
23:26
call him jazz jism because I don't even give him the
23:29
compliment and giving him his last name because the guy, all
23:32
he does is yap, dance around, prances around after the fact
23:35
wearing his big glaring platinum freaking chain.
23:40
And and he hasn't won nothing. He hasn't done anything.
23:43
And for the Yankee fans to sit there and think, oh, this guy
23:47
brings, you know, conversation and this guy brings personality.
23:50
What personality is he bringing? A personality that you're going
23:53
to want to kill every time he opens his mouth and throw the
23:56
team under the bus? He came out and said, we're
23:58
still the best team in the league when we were playing as
24:01
bad as we were for three weeks straight.
24:04
And you and then you have Aaron Boone.
24:05
And I, I stick up for Aaron Boone because I think people
24:09
blame Aaron Boone for all this crap.
24:11
Aaron Boone is not the one that's getting into the box.
24:14
Aaron Boone is not throwing the ball like these pitchers.
24:16
These guys got to go out there. They're getting paid money.
24:19
You're getting paid a lot of money.
24:19
Go out there and play your GameStop bitching and moaning.
24:22
Well, the analytics told me to do this, and the analytics tell
24:25
me to do that. I'm so tired.
24:27
Of hearing you got to go, you got to go even further.
24:30
Aaron Boone is not making the lineup.
24:33
Aaron Boone is not making the switches.
24:36
Aaron Boone is there to babysit and to take orders from
24:40
upstairs. Yeah, period.
24:42
Yankee fans don't know that. They don't know that, yeah.
24:46
And it's. No, they don't want to believe
24:47
it. Exactly, exactly.
24:50
You know, it's a different, it's, it's just a different
24:53
mindset from like when Java and I were playing, you know what,
24:59
we liked our manager, but there was a certain part that we
25:03
didn't mess around with our manager.
25:05
We respected him to a point where if he said something to
25:09
us, he wasn't trying to be our friend.
25:13
He was, hey, you're here. I'm your manager.
25:17
Listen up. Straighten this up.
25:18
Straighten that up. Fix this, fix that.
25:22
Not these are savages. These guys are savages.
25:25
I mean, that's nice, that's great, and it makes you feel
25:29
good. But listen, that's that's not
25:32
the type of manager that we had. That was that was Girardi's
25:35
hardest thing. Like when he first came over
25:37
after after Tory was like trying to find that balance between
25:42
shoot, I didn't I'm not that far removed, you know, from from it
25:46
and just being able to and obviously in 2008 when he took
25:50
over was the last year, the old stadium.
25:51
We didn't make the playoffs. And so he wasn't obviously off
25:55
to a great start. Then we end up winning the next
25:57
year. But yeah, it's you can always
26:00
like back then, the dynamic of you always if you walk by him,
26:03
you always pays your respect. You didn't walk by your manager.
26:06
Never. And Mr. T would always be
26:08
sitting right there, as Derek always called him.
26:11
And he'd be sitting there doing his thing.
26:13
And you always said hi, always said hi to him in the in the
26:17
clubhouse. But Jimmy, you know, if, if, if
26:19
Joe was doing one thing, you didn't bother him.
26:21
If, if those sheets were on the desk.
26:23
All right, I'll catch you in about 10.
26:26
I'll come back later. And I think that I think that's
26:29
the difference. I think, you know, you know,
26:33
when we had again, look at the Major League coaching roster,
26:38
there's not too many guys besides Brad Osmus, you know,
26:43
with a lot of experience. I think.
26:44
I think Harkey's still in the bullpen.
26:47
Yeah, and then assistant pitching coach Preston Claiborne
26:49
had a little bit of time. Yeah.
26:51
So, you know, we we had guys that had championship with the
26:55
Yankees, Willie Randolph, you know, Don Zimmer, you know, you
27:00
know, Mel Stoudemire, guys that knew what it was like to play in
27:03
New York. So when you were struggling, you
27:07
had someone, dude, what happened to you when you played in New
27:10
York and you were and you sucked and they were all over you.
27:13
How did you get out of it? You know, you had that ability
27:16
to have coaches that could help you through that.
27:18
I don't think they have that now.
27:20
And Joe Girardi. Are they, are they allowed to do
27:22
it? No.
27:24
Right. I remember when Joe Girardi was
27:26
picked to be the next manager for the New York Yankees, and
27:29
Donnie Baseball was fighting for that job too, and a lot of the
27:32
Yankee fans wanted Don Mattingly to take over for the Yankees,
27:36
not Joe Girardi. And it was obviously Brian
27:38
Cashman's decision. I'm going the Girardi route now.
27:43
I've heard stories and you know more than anybody I've heard
27:46
stories about Girardi and Posada and there were stories that they
27:50
didn't like each other. A Girardi never liked Posada and
27:53
Posada was Derek Jeter's best friend or one of them.
27:56
Him and Gerald Williams was his closest friends on the team.
27:59
You were around both guys. So is it true Gerardi and Posada
28:04
didn't like each other? And if it is true, why did they
28:08
not like each other? In all honesty, it depends on
28:12
what you ask them. I mean, if you would have asked
28:13
them during the playing days, Girardi was considered a mentor.
28:18
And I can I can pull back articles from back in those days
28:23
saying that Joe Girardi was there to mentor Jorge Posada.
28:27
That's why he came back in 97 and 98.
28:29
You know, they were 97 and 98. Yeah.
28:32
And but as time went on, the story changed a little bit that,
28:39
oh, well, they didn't like each other.
28:40
They didn't get along. And I think it was more as a
28:44
manager than it was when they were teammates.
28:48
It's it's crazy because I as a Yankee fan heard so many
28:52
different stories. Now, I obviously I didn't have
28:54
my inside scoop like you guys did.
28:56
You both played for the Yankees. You guys were close to the
28:58
Steinbrenner. So I didn't know them like that.
29:00
But I was a die hard Yankee fan. I grew up a Don Mattingly fan.
29:03
He was my favorite player and I, I Donnie, unfortunately
29:07
everywhere he's gone, even as a manager, never won a
29:10
championship, even out a guy as a bench manager, never won with
29:14
the Yankees, with Joe Torre. So Don Manley just had really,
29:18
really bad luck when Joe Girardi really was put in the position
29:21
the way he was. Where after they picked Joe
29:25
Girardi, what did they do that season?
29:26
Well, they just went with CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett and Mark
29:31
Teixeira in 2009 and they win a championship in the first
29:35
inaugural season at the new stadium.
29:37
I'm not surprised that happened. Do they do the same if Don
29:41
Mattingly was there? Because I've heard stories,
29:44
George Steinbrenner was very close with Donnie, but Hal and
29:47
Hank did not like Donnie. So there was some stories coming
29:51
out that way. And that's why they decided to
29:53
go with Joe. I don't know if that to be true
29:56
either, but I've, I've, I've seen Don Mattingly 3 years,
29:59
three times in in in an amount of time.
30:02
And I had I've had questions to ask him and I said, Don, you're
30:05
you're my favorite player growing up.
30:07
And he smiled. He's I appreciate it.
30:08
And I said, what what was the what was the connection you had
30:12
with the Stein Burners? He says the boss was always the
30:15
boss, always showed me respect, always loved me as a player and
30:19
always put me first after the team.
30:23
He said, he said, but there was something about Hal and and
30:26
Hank, they they were brought up differently and they looked at
30:30
me as a different player, a replaceable player.
30:33
That's what Don Mattingly told me.
30:36
And but he didn't say it in a way where all he they hated me.
30:39
He just said it in a professional way that we just
30:42
didn't see eye to eye with the game of baseball.
30:45
And maybe that's why he retired. I think Donnie could have played
30:48
another year. I really do.
30:49
I think he could have played in 96.
30:51
Yeah, but what a lot of people didn't see back then was Donnie.
30:55
We Donnie had to get up at 10:00 in the morning.
30:57
He had to do a bunch of different exercises and
31:00
stretches and just to be able to get out of bed, be able to walk
31:03
down and have lunch. I mean, it really was a point
31:07
where his day was, it was a 14 hour day for him.
31:12
And I think that was what that was what was weighing on him
31:14
more than anything. You know, would he have liked to
31:21
continue? I'm sure.
31:23
But I, I do think that that the injury was, it was, was the most
31:28
the main reason why he he hung it up.
31:29
Do you think, Donnie, for the five years that Don Manly was at
31:34
the top level of the game, could you compare anybody over the
31:37
last 40 years have had numbers like Don Manly in a five year
31:42
stint except Aaron Judge? I mean, Aaron Judge would be the
31:44
closest. I mean, Mike Trout, Really.
31:49
That's it. Mike Trout.
31:50
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, Trout.
31:53
Trout would be 1. But see, and I would actually
31:55
put Mike Trout in a very similar category to Don Mattingly.
31:58
Yeah, but but the difference is. Playoff wise, too.
32:04
Yes, exactly. Not his fault the nails are
32:06
dysfunctional. And his injury has really what's
32:11
been decimated his last four or five years.
32:15
And it's going to be remembered as the guy that had 30 and 100
32:20
and, you know, 40 and 108 or 8 or seven or eight years or is he
32:26
going to be remembered the guy who's hitting 2:20 and has 17
32:31
bombs? You know, it's it's really kind
32:34
of, you know, a difficult situation.
32:38
And again, it goes back to not winning a championship, not even
32:43
being in the playoffs, much less.
32:45
And I think it's a tough choice. I think it's a it's got to be a
32:49
tough choice for Trout every year to say, OK, I'm going back
32:52
to the Angels, you know? Jimmy, you look at Jabba and
32:56
I've asked Jabba who his who was his favorite player to work with
32:59
and play with, and it was CC Sabathia, OK, He always talks
33:03
about CC. That is the nicest guy, one of
33:05
the best teammates he's ever played with.
33:07
He's had a lot of good ones. Jabba you would agree with, but
33:10
CC was a guy that really stood out to you.
33:12
Was there a particular player that you played with that stuck
33:17
out to you more than the other? And, and why do you say that
33:20
player over maybe the other players that people would have
33:24
thought that you would have picked?
33:25
Don Mattingly Donnie was the greatest team that I ever played
33:28
with, not only from the standpoint of the good all
33:31
around person and a good My first year in the big leagues,
33:36
my very first day at Yankee Stadium, I got caught up on the
33:39
road for three games in Baltimore and we came home and
33:44
our first series was against the Red Sox in Yankee Stadium.
33:48
And I come walking in the stadium.
33:50
I'm taking it all in. I'm just, I'm, I'm literally on
33:53
the phone with my dad in the locker room and going, dad, I
33:56
fucking made it. I'm here at Yankee Stadium.
33:59
I, you know, I, I, you know, my locker is next to Don Mattingly.
34:04
This is the greatest day of my life.
34:06
And instead of my dad going, son, I'm very proud of you
34:09
because my dad was a cross between Woody Hayes and Bobby
34:12
Knight, hardcore, hardcore. And he said to me, son, that is
34:19
great, but what are you going to do to stay there?
34:23
That was his comment. So I literally get off the
34:26
phone. I'm a little disappointed that
34:28
he didn't say, I'm proud of you, son.
34:29
Congratulations. All right.
34:32
I sit down on my my chair and I look over and Donnie comes
34:35
walking in and he goes, hey, kid.
34:38
He goes pretty good, pretty good couple games in Baltimore.
34:42
You see. I see you're next to me.
34:45
Just remember one thing, you don't last very long here unless
34:49
you ask questions. Where was where was your locker
34:52
at? Literally when you first walked
34:54
in. To the left or the right?
34:56
Yeah, Donnie had it as soon as you walked.
34:58
He. Had he had the big one in the
34:59
corner? In the corner, Yeah, yeah.
35:02
They stuck me next to Stevie and Gino.
35:04
Oh geez, yeah. I was right by the mailboxes.
35:09
I'm like, hey, I didn't care. I got to look at Thurman's
35:12
locker every day. Exactly.
35:15
Exactly. Yeah, So.
35:18
And one of the things great about Donnie, when Donnie was
35:20
hurt, I was taking his position at first base, but yet he was
35:25
out there every day trying to help me.
35:28
How to hold a runner on, how to do something, how to how to give
35:31
myself a better opportunity to be good that day to help our
35:34
team win. You didn't find that in a
35:37
superstar and a guy that was as big as Don Manley was during
35:40
those days. And I just found that
35:43
unbelievable. And like I said, the first time
35:45
anybody, anybody asked me who's your favorite teammate, I don't
35:49
even hesitate. It's Don Manley.
35:50
Do you talk to him still? Oh, yeah, yeah.
35:54
Every time. Every time Toronto comes in, I
35:57
go see him. I I text him on his birthday
36:01
every year. Yeah, we we still, we still stay
36:04
in touch. By the way, Jabba, I I love when
36:07
you're posting up in the private chat and he says Boone is at the
36:11
press conference right now saying that the Yankees are a
36:13
good defensive team so bad. Boone, what are you watching?
36:20
Man? I love you, dude.
36:22
I stick up for our boot all the time that you that would get you
36:26
fired. If I was the GM of the team, I'd
36:28
be like, dude, are we watching the same team?
36:30
This team is absolutely putrid defensively.
36:34
Well, you know, here's the situation.
36:37
The manager before him criticized Gary Sanchez and lost
36:41
his job. If you really, if you really
36:45
want to get down to it, Joe Girardi was let go because of
36:51
what he was saying about Gary Sanchez and at that time, Gary
36:54
Sanchez. Gary Sanchez.
36:57
That's what they called him, the Sanchez.
37:00
And by the way, I was in Bermuda and I was going down the crystal
37:04
tour and Gary Sanchez's niece was hanging out with me and my
37:10
girlfriend and she's like, you know, Gary Sanchez is.
37:13
And I said, yeah, he was a Yankee catcher.
37:14
Yeah, that's my, that, that's like my my uncle or whatever she
37:17
said. My, I, I see him all the time.
37:20
I'm always during the summer. I'm always with Gary.
37:23
And I'm like, if like, that's pretty funny.
37:25
And now you're bringing up Gary said it popped in my head.
37:28
So it it Sanchez, Chaz was a guy that had tremendous time.
37:32
I remember when he came up and he was hitting the hell out of a
37:35
ball. I don't know what happened to
37:36
him. He mentally just it got into his
37:38
head. He went to the Twins.
37:40
He actually started hitting for the Twins.
37:42
And then he, he finished up, yeah, he finished up with the
37:47
Mets and. Then he went to the Padres.
37:48
Actually, it was pretty good. That wasn't he with the Mets.
37:50
Too. He was with the Mets for like a
37:51
month or so. Then he went to the Padres and
37:53
actually played well in that season with them.
37:56
Not the. Padres.
37:57
The Padre stint brought him back.
37:59
Yeah, not Yankees good, but he was at least playing serviceable
38:02
enough where he could have kept playing, but then I think they
38:04
let him go at the end of the year.
38:05
You know, Jimmy, before we let you go, because I know you're a
38:08
busy guy and we love when you come on and we'll definitely get
38:11
you on before the season is over.
38:13
Because I'd love to hear if the Yankees make the playoffs, which
38:16
they should. I I can't see them choking and
38:19
not making the playoffs. But hey, it is the Yankees.
38:21
They do have a good defensive team.
38:22
Apparently, as Boone was saying, and then Chisholm saying Jazz,
38:26
Chisholm coming out and saying, oh, yeah, we're still the best
38:29
team in the league when we were 13 and 22 in the month of June.
38:33
So yeah, that great. Congratulations to Jazz.
38:36
He knows what he's talking about.
38:37
And it only had three home runs in that Home Run Derby.
38:40
What a disgrace. That was embarrassing.
38:43
That was a little embarrassing. That was embarrassing.
38:46
How do you go out there and say, oh, I have 17 home runs, I could
38:49
win this thing and the guy had three home runs and then he
38:52
made. He did foul tip but the worst,
38:54
the worst was Jimmy if you remember Swish swinging and
38:57
missing. Yes, I do remember that, yes.
39:01
That's got to be the worst. I, I, but at least Nick and
39:05
I'll, I'll say this about Swisher.
39:07
When Swish was in the locker room, he knew how to like bring
39:11
out the guys. I've heard so many stories about
39:13
Nick Swan. I don't know him personally, but
39:15
I'm sure you guys know him. Everything I've heard about
39:17
Nick, he was the best teammate. He was cool collective in the
39:20
he's always blasting his music in the locker room.
39:23
Everybody was listening to the Metallica and all the crazy crap
39:26
that he was playing all that Hard Rock.
39:28
When I hear about Jism, he looks like a rapper.
39:31
He looks like a Flavor Flav and he's standing there.
39:34
I mean, he just the the way he presents himself, I just don't
39:40
like it. I don't like the way he stands
39:42
there like he's 11 something. He's done something for Yankees
39:46
and he's really done nothing. And he couldn't cut it over
39:50
there with the Marlins and he had to be traded.
39:52
So let let's let's get down and dirty with that jizzy.
39:55
So I would love to get jism on the show because I'm not going
39:58
to sit here and beat around the Bush.
40:00
I'll let him have it and see how he answers it and if he doesn't
40:03
like it. Well, that just shows you how
40:04
big of a bitch he is anyways, so it's the facts.
40:08
I'm not going to sit here and beat around it.
40:09
But Job, you know me. You've been working with me for
40:12
a year now. I don't sit here when I
40:14
interview somebody and say, Oh my God, it's jazz jism.
40:18
Let me kisses this. You know, I just, I'll, I'll
40:22
tell you if you don't like it. Well.
40:23
If that does happen, I'm going to have a big bowl of popcorn
40:26
just sitting there going. There you go.
40:29
That's all. That's all.
40:30
That's all I'm in it for. Which you probably usually no,
40:34
you have a, you know, a bag full of Tootsie rolls, which you've
40:37
been eating all night tonight. Fruity, fruity fruits, whatever.
40:40
But when you get it, when you get into a good back and forth,
40:42
yeah, it's popcorn time. Yeah, well, I've done it a
40:45
couple of times on this. Show down with the best is when
40:47
you burn out the Dorito Taco shells what I mentioned.
40:50
That's true too. I, I might get some Doritos
40:53
tonight. I I have Torito tacos.
40:55
I like that. Anyways, Jimmy, we really
40:58
appreciate the time your sensational keep up the good
41:00
work. Let's get you on a little bit
41:02
sooner than later, but maybe during the playoffs like we did
41:05
last year. Love to know your take and I'm
41:08
sure we'll have a lot of coverage through it.
41:10
But as always, always available. Are you still in Levy's box?
41:15
I'm still, Yep, I'm still working up in the suites.
41:17
Yep, yeah. And there he is.
41:19
He's hanging out all right, boys, hanging out with the
41:21
Chiclets. Thanks, Jimmy.
41:22
Thank. You thanks for having me.
41:24
Thanks, Jimmy. Thanks, buddy.
41:25
Jim Lahren. Fantastic stories.
41:28
I love the Don Mattingly story. I'm a Donnie Baseball fan, so I
41:32
love it. Speedy side note, who was it?
41:35
The question I asked you in the private chat.
41:37
Yeah, Brandon Inch. That's right.
41:42
I always killed the Yankees too. The by way, Detroit.
41:44
Remember Brandon? I asked.
41:45
Java on the private chat who was the his former team age had zero
41:49
and a home runner because I remember watching it as a kid I
41:51
like I couldn't remember who it was he.
41:53
Killed the Yankees all the time. All the time.
41:56
I couldn't stand Brandon Inch, but I, I, I remembered him when
42:00
he was on the tigers because he always pissed me off every time
42:03
he went up to the plate and he was a good defender too.
42:05
Yeah, he was pretty good. So yeah, I, I really liked.
42:09
I don't know him personally, Jabba knew him personally, but I
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I'm sure he probably was a cool duo to chill out with and hang
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out with. But anyways, thank you to Jimmy.
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We really appreciate the time. Let's go to a sports minute when
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we come back. We've got a call to the pen.
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We got inside baseball and hopefully we might have goodies.
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Bag of balls. It doesn't look like it is that
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it's still in the 5th inning or 6th inning of his game.
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So I I don't think we have Goody tonight.
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It's an unfortunate situation, but the Goodwood is playing with
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his Woody. Goody has no woody.
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As we all know, it's. Breaking news, I need Brittany
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also. Anyways, when we come back, a
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little bit more and a lot more in baseball.
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Thank you to the one and only Jimmy.
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Larynx for joining us. Hopefully Nick Goody is winning
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and his team is moving on throughout the playoffs.
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We're rooting for him and unfortunately couldn't make it.
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So all the fans saying is Nick coming to be on?
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Is Nick going to be on? No, he's not on tonight, but I'm
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he'll be back on Monday, I'm sure and probably Wednesday.
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But thank you to Jimmy. Thank you to all the fans that
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are following us on Spotify and Apple video, Spotify and Apple
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audio, like we always say thank you to TikTok fans, Instagram
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fans, Facebook fans, YouTube fans, everybody fans, X fans a
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little lost. We guys should be following us
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on X, but you know it's not that important in speedy's category
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anyways. Thank you again.
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We'll be back on on Monday. Speedy, who do you have?
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On joining the show, thanks to Nathan for getting him. 9:45
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will be a former Ray's Rockies. A couple other teams I don't
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forget offhand. Ray's Rockies relief pitcher
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Jake McGee will be joining us. Jake McGee.
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Solid there. You go.
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Jake, good stuff. Yes, that'll be fun.
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A little a little speedy. Little left-hander.
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A little left-hander who likes to blow loads as we all know.
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Anyways, thank you again, we really appreciate it.
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The fans. Thank you to Blue Wire.
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Think oh I just hit myself in the crotch.
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Oh that hurts. Oh man.
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How the hell did you? Do that.
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I put my hand up and I slapped down and it hit me right in
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between my legs. That hurts.
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The karma for the angry dragon stuff.
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Yeah, it was definitely calm up, but Oh my God, I'm feeling it
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down my leg right now. Anyways, thank you to the fans.
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We'll be back on Monday. Until then, have a good weekend.
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And by the way, here we go A1 and A2 and A3.
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Happy birthday All right, Speedy, happy 30th.
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We love you. Thank you very much.
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Thank you very much. As Elvis always says and he says
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got to go. Good night.
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