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Birds Weekly With Derrick Gunn, Barrett Brooks: "At A Loss Of Words" On Latest Eagles Loss · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: We are up and running with the latest edition of
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  Speaker 2: Birds Weekly presented by the Inside the Birds Network. For
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  Speaker 2: that man with the scowl on his face, Barrett Brooks,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Derek Gunn, and oh my goodness. There's absolutely no
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  Speaker 2: way you should lose a football game with eight seconds
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  Speaker 2: left in the game, barring everybody across the Delaware Valley
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  Speaker 2: and across America whose Eagles fans were screaming, kick that
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  Speaker 2: ball out of bounds, but no.
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  Speaker 1: Your coach.
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  Speaker 2: Your kicker decides to kick a line drive to Abdullah,
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  Speaker 2: who finds a gaping hole on the right side, and
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  Speaker 2: the rest is history.
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  Speaker 1: What were your thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: In that particular time after the Eagles had marched down
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  Speaker 2: the field and taken the lead?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that their kicker, what's his name, Little? That he's
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  Speaker 3: kicked a 70-yard field goal before. We watched him do
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  Speaker 3: 70-yard field goals in practice.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, they returned to kick the first
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  Speaker 1: play of the game. The first play of the game.
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  Speaker 3: So evidently they saw some inefficiencies in how they, you know,
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  Speaker 3: our kickoff coverage was. So there was something going on, man.
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  Speaker 3: And then, you know, when they did kick it off
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  Speaker 3: to them, they had the perfect call. Evidently it was
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  Speaker 3: a return right. And when they kicked it, the double
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  Speaker 3: team was set right there in the alley where he was.
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  Speaker 3: Was double team, one guy out. Smile Monday didn't get
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  Speaker 3: over the top. to make the play. He didn't make
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  Speaker 3: the play. And then all of a sudden, it was
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  Speaker 3: history after that. Not that this guy has been a
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  Speaker 3: Pro Bowl punt returner and kick returner before.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, man.
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  Speaker 3: You just got to be mindful of these type of situations,
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  Speaker 3: especially when they took it and taken advantage of it
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  Speaker 3: in the first play of the game.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm at a loss of words, man. Loss of words.
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  Speaker 2: Your coach, your head coach stands at the podium after
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  Speaker 2: the game and he says, It's my fault. I made
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  Speaker 2: the wrong call. You think? Do you think sometimes Nick
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  Speaker 2: has too much of a hand in certain situations?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it shouldn't be too much of a hand in
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  Speaker 3: certain situations. He's the CEO coach. He's not really a
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  Speaker 3: guy that's going to call the offense, or he shouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: He's not really a guy that should call the defense,
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  Speaker 3: and he shouldn't. He's not really a guy that should
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  Speaker 3: be calling the special teams.
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  Speaker 2: He shouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: He should advise those guys and trust that they're going
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  Speaker 3: to make the right decisions. He can go in and, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe recommend. But, I mean, I just didn't
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  Speaker 3: think at this point that, you know, that, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it just didn't make sense to me. Especially seeing what
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  Speaker 3: happened in the Dallas game, you know, this last week.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't make sense. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: they beat us.
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  Speaker 3: And it's the second week in a row that we
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  Speaker 3: get beat the last play.
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  Speaker 1: Of our opponent.
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  Speaker 3: The last play of our opponent, they'd beaten us for
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  Speaker 3: the last two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: It's getting tough, man. It's getting tough.
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  Speaker 3: But I'll tell you this. He can still be my coach.
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  Speaker 3: He's my guy. But he's got to do better, man.
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  Speaker 3: He's got to do better. He's still your guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has to be, man. He has to be.
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  Speaker 1: You see these? You see these? These green-colored glasses? You told.
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  Speaker 2: Now, wait a minute. Now, you've told me couple of
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  Speaker 2: times over the last couple of weeks that you are
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  Speaker 2: no longer wearing the rose-colored glasses. Who put something in
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  Speaker 2: your Kool-Aid to make you turn back the other way?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it wasn't last night. Let me put
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  Speaker 1: it like this. Let me make it very, very clear.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't last night.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I must admit, I was MFing and everything, bro.
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 3: But when I watched the film, I watched the film,
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  Speaker 3: and I saw some things that made me feel pretty
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  Speaker 3: good about the situation going forward. And, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: way the offensive line, and they gave Jalen ample opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to push the ball down the field. They blocked well.
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  Speaker 3: Say what you want to say. You can't look at
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  Speaker 3: the little engine that could and say he can't. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he absolutely balled. Willie Lampkin played a great game yesterday. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: and oh, by the way, the starting center, I forget
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  Speaker 3: even his name. I mean, from out of nowhere, he
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  Speaker 3: played well.
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  Speaker 2: Jake Majors. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jake Majors from Texas. He played well. He played well. Sting,
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  Speaker 1: he needs to work on it a little bit. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
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  Speaker 3: It's a contract year for him, D-Gun. It's a contract year.
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  Speaker 3: Why is it that he's not trying to ball and
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  Speaker 3: go all out?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he played better last year than the year before.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, he's not playing well at all. And we
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  Speaker 3: got to look at Bell. Bell, he played a lot
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  Speaker 3: better this last game. Although there were some mistakes that
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  Speaker 3: were made, and those were just, like, learning mistakes that
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  Speaker 3: come with repetition and experience, he actually played pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: But they gave Jalen an opportunity to push the ball
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  Speaker 3: down the field. Now, Jalen has to take advantage of
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  Speaker 3: what he's given, too, also. They're going to continue to
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  Speaker 3: blitz him. And as long as he doesn't pick it up,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to make it their point to blitz him.
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  Speaker 3: So he's got to get him out of.
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  Speaker 1: It, man.
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  Speaker 2: Does it surprise you at this stage of his career
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  Speaker 2: that Jalen still seems to have difficulty picking up blitzes?
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  Speaker 1: It does. It does.
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  Speaker 3: Because, number one, when I look at it, the teams
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  Speaker 3: are running the same blitz.
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  Speaker 1: They're overloading one side. They're putting five blitzes on one side.
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  Speaker 3: And whether they drop out or not, they're still going
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  Speaker 3: to have more blitzes than they are blockers. You know,
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  Speaker 3: even if you shift the line over, that's only three blockers.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a center guard and a tackle. And if
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  Speaker 3: they bring four, there's still one more blitzer. And when
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  Speaker 3: I watched it, I mean, I did see one play where,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they could have taken advantage of it.
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  Speaker 1: They will stop teams from blitzing.
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  Speaker 3: That's that long pass that they went through the wicks
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  Speaker 3: when he got hit and he was throwing it up
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  Speaker 3: on the blitz. That's how you get teams out of blitzing.
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  Speaker 3: You make them pay with big plays. And they were
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  Speaker 3: about this close. From catching it, and that would have
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  Speaker 3: been a touchdown. I mean, he had that much more time.
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  Speaker 3: That would have been a touchdown to Wicks. But that's
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  Speaker 3: how you get them out of blitzing. You got to
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  Speaker 3: make them pay. And they almost made them pay that,
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  Speaker 3: and they almost had an opportunity to do it. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just looking for Jalen also to understand, all right, you
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  Speaker 3: see all the people coming over there? Don't let it
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  Speaker 3: shock you. If you see them line up over there,
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  Speaker 3: it's a good opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: That they're coming. And sometimes you got to fade over
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: If they're coming from the right, fade over to the
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  Speaker 3: left a little bit, give yourself a little bit more time.
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  Speaker 3: But I still don't see the side adjustment that the
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator can give him that will help him out.
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  Speaker 3: And what I mean by side adjustments, when a receiver's
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  Speaker 3: out there and when he looks inside, there may be
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  Speaker 3: one guy that he's responsible for, the receiver looks at
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  Speaker 3: and is responsible for.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if he sees him just a player in blitz,
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  Speaker 1: that means he's.
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  Speaker 3: Got to side adjust and make himself available to the quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: whether that's a slant, whether it's a stop play, Something
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  Speaker 3: has to be built into this offense that they can
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  Speaker 3: use and side adjust so they can stop them from
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  Speaker 3: blitzing like that. If you make them pay, they'll stop
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  Speaker 3: doing it. But at this point, I keep blitzing. I
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  Speaker 3: blitz the hell out of them because he's not picking
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  Speaker 3: it up and the team's not picking it up. That
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  Speaker 3: one time that they did get it out there and
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  Speaker 3: they almost made them pay, that gave them a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of earnest like, all right, we better slow down
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. But, I mean, they need to do
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  Speaker 3: more than just one time. I mean, you do it
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  Speaker 3: one time, okay, whatever. You know what I'm saying? All right,
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  Speaker 3: they just got lucky that time. But if you continue
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  Speaker 3: to beat them in the blitz, they'll stop blitzing.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go back inside the offensive line for a moment,
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  Speaker 2: if you will. Jalen threw 40 passes in this game.
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  Speaker 2: Was only sacked one time. And there were many times
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  Speaker 2: in this game where he had time to stand in
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  Speaker 2: the pocket and look down the field. What impressed you
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  Speaker 2: most about the makeshift offensive line? I mean, a center.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody knew his name, basically. a 5'11 left guard, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and a rookie who got his first full game of experience. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville has a pretty good defensive front, and that offensive
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  Speaker 2: line kept some of the pressure off Jalen, especially at
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  Speaker 2: crucial times of a game. What really impressed you most,
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  Speaker 2: stood out most to you about the way that offensive
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  Speaker 2: line came together?
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  Speaker 1: Willie Lampkin, 101, Eric Armstead, a lot of the game.
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  Speaker 3: And won, and he won. He jacked him up a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of times, man. Held him up in the pass,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and still made him in the run. I'm
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  Speaker 3: telling you, man, he showed everybody that he can play
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  Speaker 3: this game, man. I mean, he looked great out there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he got his hands inside. He stopped the
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  Speaker 3: bull rush. He stopped the counter moves when he was free, and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and he sat back, and once he saw
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  Speaker 3: his blitz responsibility leave, He ran over and started, you know,
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  Speaker 3: hitting those defenders on his tackle. He went out there
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  Speaker 3: and tried to tattoo their ribs. All those things you
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  Speaker 3: love for a player.
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  Speaker 1: To do, he did.
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  Speaker 3: When you look at Jake Majors, he was a little
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  Speaker 3: shaky with the snapping, which, you know, really hurt Jalen
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  Speaker 3: a little bit because it had to take his eyes
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  Speaker 3: off going down the field. That really hurt, especially when
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  Speaker 3: he were on the goal line and he snapped back
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  Speaker 3: there and Jalen threw it over their head and they
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  Speaker 3: could almost call it intentional grounding, but it went over
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  Speaker 3: the receiver's head. That could have been a real crucial play.
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  Speaker 3: And hopefully we have our starter back in Kendall. But
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  Speaker 3: I mean, for the most part, he just played hard, man,
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  Speaker 3: and just went all out.
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  Speaker 1: He just went all out. And that's what I needed.
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  Speaker 1: I needed to see the fight in him.
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  Speaker 2: Dogs.
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  Speaker 1: And they fought.
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  Speaker 3: They really fought their butt off for the entirety of
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  Speaker 3: the game. Steen needs a little work, man. He's got
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  Speaker 3: to play a little bit harder. And if this is
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  Speaker 3: the match that he can give, then, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be hard for him to stay here.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: This is a contract here. He should be playing a
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  Speaker 3: lot better than he's playing right now. And Bell, for
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  Speaker 3: the most part, Bell fought, man. He was honorable this time.
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  Speaker 3: He was finishing plays. He saw what those other guys
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  Speaker 3: were doing and started doing the same thing. I think
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  Speaker 3: he played well enough that we should have won the game, man. And,
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  Speaker 3: of course, Jordan balled out. So, you know, to have
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  Speaker 3: a patchwork offensive line and to only give up one sack,
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  Speaker 3: they did a phenomenal job of protecting Jalen for the
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  Speaker 3: most part. And against the run, I mean, it was
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  Speaker 3: tough against the run. You know, that was the number
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  Speaker 3: two or number three. You see, the number one and
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  Speaker 3: number three, I'm sorry, the number two or the number
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  Speaker 3: three defensive against the run in the entire NFL?
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  Speaker 1: Number two, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean, they tried to, but at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, those guys up front were having it. But,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, to have a... Okay, I was going to
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  Speaker 3: say a third team or fourth. It was the fourth
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  Speaker 3: team running back towards the end with Pierce. The fourth
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  Speaker 3: team running back trying to run a rock, you're just
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  Speaker 3: not going to have that consistency, man.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it showed. It showed its head.
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  Speaker 3: Now, if we'd have had Saquon in there, and I
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  Speaker 3: hope there's an opportunity he can play this next week,
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  Speaker 3: I think things would have been a lot better. I
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  Speaker 3: think this game would have probably been a lot more
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  Speaker 3: of a fight and us up more on Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 2: What are we going to do about this running game?
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  Speaker 2: The running game had 22 yards. And like you said,
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville was giving up 74 yards of the ground. But somehow, someway,
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  Speaker 2: this is three straight games. They can't run the ball, man.
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  Speaker 2: They can't run the football. And you have to be
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  Speaker 2: able to run the football in today's football season to
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  Speaker 2: keep a defense off balance, number one, and to keep
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  Speaker 2: the sticks moving. Even if they had their offensive line intact, man,
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  Speaker 2: they cannot run the football beat. How do you change that?
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  Speaker 2: How do you get more productive in the ground game? Well,
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  Speaker 2: they got to do more for what that offensive line
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  Speaker 2: is built for. And I know they want to run
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  Speaker 2: the zone scheme, and everybody was talking about zone scheme.
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  Speaker 3: You run an outside zone, inside zone. But at this point,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's really conducive of what our guys are.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you've got big maulers. And at this point,
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  Speaker 3: I think we might get Landon Dickerson back. I think
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  Speaker 3: that'll make a difference. Even though people are like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we need Landon Dickerson back.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: If he's healthy, a healthy Landon Dickerson can move the crowd.
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  Speaker 3: So get Landon back, have that opportunity, then get Kendall back.
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  Speaker 3: I think we will be able to move the ball.
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  Speaker 3: We'll just have to run more gap schemes, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with man schemes like, you know, power. Double team the
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  Speaker 3: front side, pull the backside guard up through the line,
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  Speaker 3: and just have the running back find a hole and
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  Speaker 3: take it to the house. You got to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: hopefully get Saquon back. Right now, we don't have enough backs.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have enough backs to even fill the team
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  Speaker 3: right now. I mean, Pierce is the only guy we
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  Speaker 3: have available. He's the only one we got up right now. So,
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  Speaker 3: we got to have something. We need to go out
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  Speaker 3: and get some people. If we don't have Saquon, we
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  Speaker 3: are definitely screwed, man, because we just don't have enough
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  Speaker 3: to run the ball at this point. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think this offensive line– with a little more help
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  Speaker 3: from Saquon as far as Saquon being back, Landon Dickerson
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  Speaker 3: maybe playing, I think we will be able to go
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  Speaker 3: out there and fill the team that can run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: You won't be able to pack the box like you have.
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  Speaker 3: If Smitty comes back. All these things are tied together.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have Smitty. We just got Dallas Goddard back.
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  Speaker 3: He made a major impact in the first half, but
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  Speaker 3: none in the second half. Things don't start coming together
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  Speaker 3: once health starts becoming better for us.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we don't have it right now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this team had a 14 to 10 lead at halftime.
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  Speaker 2: They moved the ball well, well enough in the first
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  Speaker 2: half to have a lead going into the half of Barrett.
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  Speaker 2: Once again, we go to the second half. Now the offense, again,
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  Speaker 2: they had 138 yards of offense at halftime. They finished
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  Speaker 2: with 232 yards of offense. That means they had 94
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  Speaker 2: yards of offense in the latter half. Against the Bears,
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  Speaker 2: they had 62 yards of offense in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: Against the Rams, 72 yards of offense. And against Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 2: 94 yards of offense. They only have three points in
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  Speaker 2: the second half in the last three games. When you
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: go to the locker room at halftime, you're making adjustments.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: You huddle up with your group and you make adjustments, Barry.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: What is it about this team that can't make the
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: necessary adjustments to play a more efficient second half of football?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I'm laughing because I don't know.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, is it that we don't know how to make,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: you know, adjustments in game?
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I don't understand it.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: You know, you go for running a ball successfully for
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Saquon last week with the Rams. I mean, the week
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: before last. And all of a sudden, you know, Saquon's
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: not there. We're not going to run the ball. But
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: we still were able to go out there and move
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: the ball effectively.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: In the first half.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I don't understand when the second half comes, we can't
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: call plays to, you know, counter their defense.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, it just.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: We talk about our defense being a top defense. Well,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: they're starting to play like that. You know, you saw
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Jalen go out there, Jalen Carter go out there and ball.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: You see those guys out there making plays.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: There's only so long that they're going to be able
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: to do that for an entire half before the offense
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: is like, all right, we're going to make something happen.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, they held as long as they could, man.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: It was just to a point where could they hold,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: you know, they should have.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, come on now.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: You know, you need some help from this offense. And
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: all these three and outs, three and outs. We got
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: to find out what works on first and second down.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: We just have no production in first and second down.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: We have penalties, holding calls, something like that. It just
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: messes us up. So if we can't have consistent three-
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: or four-yard play on the first down, then we go
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: into the second down. Now, you know, we're cooking with
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: hot grease. Now if we get two or three yards
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: that time, now we're third and management. It seems like
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: every time we're going, we're going third and 10, third
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: and 15, third and 12. Man, there's not a lot
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: of those plays that you can use to continue to
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: move the ball and continue to get production out of
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: your offense. That's why it's been three and out, three
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: and out, three and out. First down is killing us.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: You know, your quarterback, he made plays of necessity, but
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: he missed on some things. And the biggest thing he
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: missed on was that play in the third quarter Jacksonville
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: comes with a zero blitz, and he flows one down
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: the left side line, and Wicks is wide open. He
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: missed him. Now, obviously, I give Jalen credit for one thing.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: He stood in there because he knew the heat was coming,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: and he stood in there, took a shot, but he
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: got the throw off. But in a game like that,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you have got to make that connection, man. Now, we
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: know Dontavion Wicks is not the fastest receiver in the world,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and I would say to him, hey, man, you're a
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: tall receiver. You need to lay out. First of all,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: you need to lay out for that one. But secondly,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: your quarterback, you got to put a better touch on
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: that ball, man, because that right there could have been
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: a decisive score of the game.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying. That's how you keep teams
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: from blitzing. That's what I was talking about. If they
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: would have connected on that, it would have been like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: all right, we got to stop blitzing now because they
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: connected on that big play. And if he'd have caught
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: him in stride, it would have been a touchdown. That's
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: how you keep a team from blitzing. You scare them
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: into– to not blitz you because the big play ability
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: that you have can, you know, that they'll be like,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: all right, we're scared to blitz until we start making
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: those big plays. It's just not going to be good
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: for us. Now we beat them a third down a
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: couple of times. You know, at least we have some
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: third down productivity, this game. We were just going like, well,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I think we were.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: 0-13, 0-14.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Well, at least we have 0-17 over two games. Right.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: You know, so we have.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Some productivity and, and, and, on third down, we were
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: able to, you know, convert on third down. But those
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: are the things that, you know, you have to be
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: able to do. And I think when we do get
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Smitty back and we do get, you know, guys that
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: can go out there and, and you know are big-time targets.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: You know, I think things have changed. You know, teams
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: will stop listening to us. Teams will stop bringing down
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: the extra defender to stop the run. I think the
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: run game will open up. It's all incumbent upon us
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: getting healthy and bringing back guys that can make a
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: difference in those type of situations.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I look at the wide receivers as a whole, Barrett,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: and this has been happening in too many games. You
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: have third and long situations, and these receivers are cutting
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: off their routes. You know, there was a one-third long
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: situation in the first– a third-nine situation in the fourth quarter.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And I forgot who the receiver was. It was either
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Wick– I believe it was Wicks. He cuts the route
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: off at five yards instead of trying to get to
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: nine yards. And we see this happen too often. Now,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I don't understand because you practice this stuff. We've seen
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Nick Ceriani practice down situational football in practices– Time and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: time again.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yet they get to a game and it's like they
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: lose their minds.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. How do you not know you need
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: nine yards? You know where the sticks are. You need
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: nine yards. You cut off the route at five yards.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Who is that on? Is that on the quarterback, you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: emphasizing to the receiver? Is it the coaches?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Is it the mechanism within the receiver's head in terms of,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I know what I need. I know what I got
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: to do. Somehow, some way I got to get to
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: that destination.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Who is that normally? That's what it is.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: You got to know as a player, I need to
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: get a first down. So you got to take it
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: to the sticks. And I'm sure Jalen understands that also.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: And he needs to tell them, hey, in the huddle, hey,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: get the first down. If you got to come back,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: make sure you push the 12 to come back to 10.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: You got to make that happen. I mean, because it's
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: all for naught if you don't. They're trying to bank
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: on them making a move and getting the first down. No,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: get past the sticks, come back, because that's what teams
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: are doing to us. They're getting the first down first
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: before you even think about coming to run. If you're
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: running an out, running an out, instead of running an
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: out at 10 yards or running out at 5 yards,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: if the sticks say 11, go to 11 and run
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: the outs. You know what I'm saying? Make sure you're
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: getting the first down. All these are in-game things you
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: have to, you know, it's almost like you're in the sand.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: You got to draw a play up in the sand. Hey,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: get to the sticks. I can remember being in the huddle.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Randall Cunningham said, hey, Freddie, get to the sticks. I'm
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: going to throw it to you on the outplay. Get
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: to the sticks. Get the first down.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I've heard players say that. Ben Roethlisberger. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: At that point, you know, you got a high reward. Hey, man,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I got to push it all the way up on
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: this comeback. I got to push it up 14 to
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: come back at 12 so I can give you enough
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: for the first down. That's just heady receivers, heady quarterback
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: understanding what they need to do to make it happen.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I've seen it happen all the time, you know, and
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: that's just a part of the game. That's just a
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: part of being a pro. You got to play like
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: a pro, you know, and at times I see we
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: don't do that, you know, even Even, you know, I'm
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: going to tell you this. Before we kick the field goal,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: the last run play before we kick the field goal,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: and this just comes with Bell and the inexperience that
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: he has as a player. If you look at it,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: they're going to blitz from his side, the right side.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: And he has three guys lined up outside of him.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: So the likelihood that that defensive end that he's on
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: coming straight up the field is zero. Because there's too
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: many people outside for him to go outside. He'll just
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: bump into them. He's going inside. And he was laid
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: off the ball, number one. Number two, he let the
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: guy cross his face simply because he should have took
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: an inside step and.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Drove hard and just drove him down and collapsed it down.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: But that's just him just being young and not understanding
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: the situation of football. You can't let the guy cross
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: your face. You got to press him back, get movement.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: You're 6'9, 340 pounds. Put your hat on him, man.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: And that's what comes with experience. He'll learn stuff like that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: He'll remember this next time he's in that certain situation
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and he'll act accordingly.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I have no problem with the way the defense played
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: in this game. Jacksonville was averaging 26 points a game
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: That defense held Jacksonville to 16 points. And Jalen Carter,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: you mentioned a moment ago, Jalen Carter, that was a
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: man possessed in the first half. And I'm thinking, where's
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: this Jalen Carter been all season?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: What?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: That cast was gone. What?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: It was a soft cast or something. But, hey, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: tell you what, Cleveland, they're starting right guard.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Man, he had a ruffle, man.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: They got the win, but he went in iced up.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: He had a tough game. He had a rough game, man.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, he was at the trainers doing whatever
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: he can, man, because he got an ass whooping that day.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter went out and just crushed him, bro.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, he could do no right. Everything he did
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: was wrong. He beat that man up, man. He, you know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: step inside club on the outside and just come up
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: the field and then just be able to work around
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: him almost like a defensive end and knock the ball
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: on like that. He had a phenomenal game. And it
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: wasn't just in the passes and the run, too. He
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: just had a phenomenal game, man. And when you have
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: him playing at that level, we get Grenard back. Man,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: it's going to be unreal. Now, I will say this.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with Hunt.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what, you know. Yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: That was a hurt piece there. You know, going into halftime,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: last play, him jumping down for a ball and to
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: be hurt like that. Dang, man. That's a hurt piece, man.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I hope it's not anything too serious. But, man, he
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: found his stride in this game. He balled out this game,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: especially in the run. He was setting the edge. He
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: was finishing plays. He was going up making tackles in
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: the interior. He had a great game. And he was
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: almost there a couple of times on the pass rush.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: He had a couple of hurries and hits. Man, I
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: hope everything's going good with him. But I just haven't
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: heard anything from a medical staff or from the team
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: or anything.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: The defense as a whole, I thought Vic Fangio called
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: a good game. in terms of playing physical. You know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Quinion Mitchell played outstanding, I thought, against their receivers. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: thought they played a little bit more press coverage than
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: they normally play. And Zach Bond, having Zach Bond back
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: was huge. I think he led the team with 11 tackles.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: You know, if they can just get right, just get right.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Like, how do you keep, trot jr off the field
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: with with 15 tackles the week before how do you
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: keep him off the field they make up a bogus
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: thing and kick him out the game come on now
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: that was so bogus man but at the end of
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: the day you know he wasn't there and that hurt
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: us on kickoff and it also hurt us on uh
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: hurt us on you know linebacker position i i think
• 27:12
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• 27:15
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• 27:18
  Speaker 3: looked so good in the state's last game that this game,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I really had some high expectations from. And you could
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: tell from the broadcast that they maybe talked to, you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator and said, you know, and they were
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: going to say, you know, a trap would have probably
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: started this game. You know, I mean, just from what
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I hear, what I heard from them and what they
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: were saying, they were saying, like, you know, he was
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: going to be the starter going into this game.
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  Speaker 2: So... Everybody's still shocked at the way they lost this game.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Your head coach stands at the podium and says, it's
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: my fault. It's my fault. It's my fault. It's my fault.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Does he get somewhat of a piece saying that, or
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: does he just add fuel to the fire by saying it?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: He doesn't care about what any of us talking heads
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: are talking about. What he's doing is shielding his team.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: And he let everybody know he let his team down. Yes,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: that was a bad decision for him to make. You know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I was not good with the decision, you know, to
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: not kick it out of bounds. Now, I mean, I
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: could look at it from a vantage point of, all right,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I pay Smile Munden to go make that play. That's
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: all you do. You don't play any defense. You get
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: paid to play special teams. That was his play to make.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: They double teamed the guy that was on the outside
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: of him He's got to go in and make the play. And,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: you know, he's the last person, you know, able to
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: jump out and miss the tackle. You got to be
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: a warrior, man. You got to go make that play.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: You got to make that play. Smile Money gets paid
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: to do that. And, you know, just watching film, he
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: should have made that play.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: When this game was over, three consecutive losses. Think about
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: it in recent years. We haven't had many opportunities to
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: talk about this particular group of or this Eagles team
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: in general under Nick Sirianni losing three consecutive games. But
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: as we know, consecutive losing can create dissension within the ranks.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: So after the game, you had your kicker say, I
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: did what I was told to do, okay? Then your
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: franchise quarterback stood at the podium multiple times and said basically, ultimately,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: it was not my place. That means, hey, you're not
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: putting this on me. You know, the kicker and the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: quarterback say, you're not putting this on me. Are you surprised?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And people are saying, oh, man, Elliott and Jalen throwing
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a coach and a coaching staff under the bus. Do
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you perceive it that way?
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: No, I thought it was them shielding the coaches and
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: not saying anything other than, hey, that's not my call.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll do what I'm coached to do. You
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, what else can you say? What is he
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: going to say? I mean, to me, I've seen players
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: just thought, man, what are you talking about? You know
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying? My coach said do this, and I
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: just did it. I didn't see him saying it like that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: So it's... I don't want this. I don't see the
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: tension from a divided locker room. Like, I've been in
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: a divided locker room. I've been on a team that
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: went 3-13, and you covered... my 3-13 team when I
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: was with the Eagles in my last year in 98.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: And you could tell it was crazy.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Dana Bible, offensive coordinator, he gets replaced by Bill Musgrave,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: who was actually a quarterback on the roster the year before.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: He's our new offensive coordinator.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Guys are out there freestyling, doing what they do because
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: they know they're interviewing for 31 other teams. They don't
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: care about what's going on. I don't see that type
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: of situation in this locker room. I still see guys
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: are tied and they're tight. But, I mean, there's only
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: so much tightness that's going to go around if they
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: continue to lose. And I really think, you know, they're
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: going to stop the bleeding and they're going to slow
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: it down a little bit.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Does just winning one game bring unity back like that?
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think the unity is left. That's what I'm
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: trying to say. I think they're still a tight team.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: I still think that there's a lot of football left
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: to play and that's what That's what Nick said. Nick
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: stated it. You know, hey, this is early in the season.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: We still have a lot of football to play. And
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: there's still an opportunity, especially with this division, to still
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: make it to the playoffs because we can.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Be a division winner.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Right now, the division winner right now is 3-1-1. The Giants.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: We're 2-3. Dallas is 2-3. I don't know what, you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: commanders are, but, I mean... It doesn't matter. As long
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: as we take care of business, get healthy, and get
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: back to playing the Eagle way.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Because right now, I don't like the Eagle way.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: And the Eagle way right now is terrible.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Offensively, we have no identity. We don't run the ball well.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: So moving forward, what should be the coaches' rallying cry
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: as they now Turn the page and get ready for Carolina.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: This is a young season still.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: There's still an opportunity to go out there and play
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: some good football, but we got to stay together and
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: we got to play hard, period.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Stay together, play hard. Everything else will work itself out.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: That's all they need to do. All right.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: It sounds simple enough.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Let's see if they can do it because Carolina offensively, man,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: they can move the ball. Bryce Young is playing lights
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: out lately, and they've got weapons. They've got weapons in
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: the running game. They've got weapons in the receiving game. Now,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the defense is a little suspect, but the offense has
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: covered a lot of ground for that defense. So let's
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: see what happens. They've got Carolina, what, in their own
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: backyard this Sunday. So it's going to be interesting because,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: as you know, if it unravels, the boo birds will
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: come out. And that's when the players start looking around.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: defense starts looking at the offense, offense looking at the defense,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: everybody looking at the coaching staff. So hopefully they can
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: get it together, and hopefully they hear what you're saying
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: and can fuse it all together and get out of
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: this funk that they're in right now. So we shall
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: wait and see. For my man, Barrett Brooks, I'm Derrick Gunn.
• 36:28
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• 36:31
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