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Murder In Moscow: What We Knew About The Surviving Roommates In The Early Stages · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. We're
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  Speaker 1: getting some more information from Moscow, Idaho about the two
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  Speaker 1: roommates who were home while all of this took place.
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  Speaker 1: Now the police are saying that these two people, these
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  Speaker 1: two girls who were home when this happened, they're not
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  Speaker 1: suspects and that they're cooperating with the police. But it
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  Speaker 1: was one of the main questions I had earlier about
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  Speaker 1: How in the hell can you be home and not
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  Speaker 1: hear this? Well, in this article we're about to read,
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  Speaker 1: a neighbor who doesn't live in the house, obviously, didn't
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  Speaker 1: hear anything either. So how in the hell did this
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  Speaker 1: go down? And how were these four young people murdered
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  Speaker 1: the way that they were with nobody knowing and no
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  Speaker 1: one being the wiser? And will these roommates have anything
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  Speaker 1: to offer the police and their investigation? My guess is
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  Speaker 1: they will. So let's get in here and let's see
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  Speaker 1: what the Daily Mail has dug up. Headline exclusive. The
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  Speaker 1: two roommates who escaped death when their four friends were
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  Speaker 1: fatally stabbed in blood-soaked frenzy at the University of Idaho
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  Speaker 1: off-campus rental are revealed. As neighbors say, the home was
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  Speaker 1: known as a party house. I don't put too much
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  Speaker 1: stock in that. That can be, you know, pretty open-ended.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean, a party house? People are there
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  Speaker 1: drinking beer? People are hanging out watching the ball game?
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  Speaker 1: What does that even mean? Do people get arrested there
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  Speaker 1: all the time? That would be significant. But if people
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  Speaker 1: are just hanging out and partying, meh, whatever. Although, it
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  Speaker 1: does mean there's a lot of traffic in and out
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  Speaker 1: of that house. So, maybe a stranger came in at
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  Speaker 1: some point? Again, who knows? All in the preliminary stages. But,
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  Speaker 1: I thought that it was pretty interesting... that the neighbor
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  Speaker 1: says they didn't hear anything either. Because I'm saying to myself,
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  Speaker 1: how do the people in the house not hear anything?
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  Speaker 1: And then the neighbor says, well, I didn't hear anything.
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  Speaker 1: So that makes me reevaluate that line of thought. This
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  Speaker 1: article was authored by Ruth Stiles. The two University of
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  Speaker 1: Idaho students who survived the crazed knife attack that left
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  Speaker 1: four of their friends dead at their shared off-campus rental
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  Speaker 1: house are 21-year-olds Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funk. Dailymail.com can reveal.
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  Speaker 1: Young couple Zanna Kernodle and Ethan Chapin, both 20, and
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  Speaker 1: best friends Madison Mogan and Kaylee Goncalves, both 21, all
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  Speaker 1: died in the savage slaying in the early hours of
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  Speaker 1: Sunday morning. On Wednesday, police revealed both Dylan and Bethany
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  Speaker 1: were in the modest Moscow home at the time of
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  Speaker 1: the attack, but miraculously survived the carnage. Now, did the
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  Speaker 1: person who did this not know they were there? That's
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  Speaker 1: definitely a likelihood. Without knowing the layout of the apartment or,
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  Speaker 1: you know, where the bedrooms are located or whatever, kind
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  Speaker 1: of difficult to know where they could have hidden. But
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  Speaker 1: obviously they hid somewhere and weren't found by this person.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking to DailyMail.com, Idaho State Police spokesman Aaron Snell said
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  Speaker 1: the two survivors are helping police with their investigation, but
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  Speaker 1: would not give further details of how they survived or
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  Speaker 1: whether either Dylan or Bethany called 911 later on Sunday morning.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So still, there's a lot to be unraveled
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  Speaker 1: and unwrapped here. And we're at the first layer. and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the things we learn or think we
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  Speaker 1: know now are obviously going to change as this investigation
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  Speaker 1: continues to evolve. But as of right now, this is
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  Speaker 1: where we're at as far as these roommates. He also
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  Speaker 1: told DailyMail.com, The pair are not suspects, but said every
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  Speaker 1: possibility is being looked at by the investigative team, which
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  Speaker 1: now includes detectives from Idaho State Police and the FBI,
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  Speaker 1: as well as the Moscow Police Department. So who knows
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  Speaker 1: what he means by that? Every possibility is being looked at.
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  Speaker 1: You would think in every investigation. Every possibility would be
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  Speaker 1: looked at, right? So obviously there's more here. There's more
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  Speaker 1: to the story about these two gals that survived and
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with them as far as their conversations
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  Speaker 1: with the police or what they might know if they
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  Speaker 1: made the phone call for 911. We still don't know
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  Speaker 1: any of that. Neither Dylan, who's from Boise, Idaho, nor Bethany,
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  Speaker 1: a member of sorority Phi Beta Phi, have responded to
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  Speaker 1: messages from DailyMail.com, and both have locked their social media profiles.
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  Speaker 1: But both girls appear frequently on accounts that belong to
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  Speaker 1: Madison and Kaylee, including a poignant Instagram post made by
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  Speaker 1: Madison on August 16th that shows all five girls together
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  Speaker 1: posing happily on the back porch of the home where
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  Speaker 1: three of them died on Sunday. And this is just
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  Speaker 1: such a sad story. You have all of these young
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  Speaker 1: people wrapped up in this, four of them who lost
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  Speaker 1: their lives, and now these other two, well, according to
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  Speaker 1: the police, they're not suspects, right? So... they're suffering a
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  Speaker 1: trauma too. Obviously, they lost some friends. Has to be
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  Speaker 1: a very brutal scene for them. And with media attention,
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  Speaker 1: I can see why you would close down your social media. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, there's still a lot of answers. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of questions that have to be answered. And
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  Speaker 1: a lot of gaps in timelines and how this can
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  Speaker 1: all occur and why nobody called the cops until the
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  Speaker 1: next day or whatever at noon. So yeah, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Questions that still need to be answered for sure.
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  Speaker 1: The two girls appear in photos posted by Kaylee hours
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  Speaker 1: before she died, which she captioned, one lucky girl to
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  Speaker 1: be surrounded by these people every day. Another set of
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  Speaker 1: photos showing Dylan and Kylie together was posted last Friday
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  Speaker 1: night and shows the pair dressed up for a night out.
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  Speaker 1: And when you look through these pictures, you know, regular
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  Speaker 1: old college kids, right? Any kind of college kids you
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  Speaker 1: could possibly imagine. Going out for the night, partying, wearing their,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fraternity or sorority clothing, hanging out on the
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  Speaker 1: back patio. And I know the neighbors said, oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: a party house, and I get that. But we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about college kids here. College kids drink. College kids have
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  Speaker 1: friends over to play beer pong. So... Besides it being
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  Speaker 1: a transient, you know, kind of situation, I don't see
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  Speaker 1: there being, you know, any issue with them having parties
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  Speaker 1: at their house. A similar collection of pictures was posted
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  Speaker 1: the same day by Madison and show her cheerfully posing
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  Speaker 1: with both Bethany and Dylan. Together with Zana, the Quinten
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  Speaker 1: appeared to have enjoyed an active social life that included
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  Speaker 1: nights out in Moscow and parties at their off-campus home.
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  Speaker 1: So somebody might have come to one of these parties,
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  Speaker 1: like we said a minute ago, and, you know, cased
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  Speaker 1: it out and said, look, I'm going to come back here.
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  Speaker 1: Or met somebody at the bar. Or, or, or, right?
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  Speaker 1: And that's where we're at, unfortunately. We can speculate until
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  Speaker 1: the cows come home about what went down. But until
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  Speaker 1: we get some more details, that's all it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be is pure speculation. A neighbor who lives in an
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  Speaker 1: apartment block next door and asked not to be named
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  Speaker 1: said the property was notable for coming and goings, often
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  Speaker 1: late at night. He said there's always parties at the
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  Speaker 1: house and people going in and out and there's usually
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  Speaker 1: some noise from there. But I didn't hear anything on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday morning. No screaming, no gunshots, nothing. And this is
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  Speaker 1: what made me take pause about, you know, how didn't
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  Speaker 1: the girls hear this in the house? Or did they
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  Speaker 1: hear it and they hid because they were scared? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I can certainly see that scenario playing out. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I can see a bunch of different scenarios playing out.
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  Speaker 1: But until we have some more facts, it's a fool's
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  Speaker 1: errand to, you know, go through all of them. Because
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  Speaker 1: all we really do know is that these young people
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  Speaker 1: are dead. And these people or person is still out there.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what should be the focus at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Outside the property... Trash, leftover from the residents' final parties,
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  Speaker 1: could still be seen. Among the debris, beer cans and
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  Speaker 1: White Claw hard seltzer packaging. Chapin, who spent his final
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  Speaker 1: night at a campus party with girlfriend Zanna, was a
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  Speaker 1: regular visitor to the home but did not live there,
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  Speaker 1: instead residing at the Sigma Chi fraternity house around 100
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  Speaker 1: yards away. So he lived at the frat house about
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  Speaker 1: 100 yards away from where these girls lived and where
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  Speaker 1: he was staying the night. Kaylee and Madison spent their
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  Speaker 1: final night at a downtown Moscow bar, police said, and
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  Speaker 1: were captured on a Twitch livestream purchasing a portion of
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  Speaker 1: carbonara pasta from a food truck at approximately 1.45 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, just hours before they were murdered. The
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  Speaker 1: creepy footage shows the pair talking to a group of
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  Speaker 1: men lingering behind them before setting off for the mile-long
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  Speaker 1: walk home. Neither Dylan nor Bethany were with them, and
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  Speaker 1: their movements on the night of the slayings remain unclear.
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  Speaker 1: So there are still holes in the timeline, still gaps
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  Speaker 1: in it, and the authorities are still trying to fill
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  Speaker 1: those gaps. Starting to come together a little bit. We're
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  Speaker 1: getting a little more information, so that means the authorities
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  Speaker 1: obviously have more than that. Police said they are establishing
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  Speaker 1: a timeline of events, including the visit to the food truck,
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  Speaker 1: but were criticized by Latah County Prosecutor Bill Thompson, who
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  Speaker 1: said cops' insistence the community is safe is at odds
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  Speaker 1: with the statements released. And yeah, that's just common sense.
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  Speaker 1: I think anyone with a brain in their head would
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  Speaker 1: see this as a bad idea to say the community
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  Speaker 1: is safe when that's really far from the truth. He
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  Speaker 1: told CBS, obviously, there's no way the police can say
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  Speaker 1: there's no risk, but what they're seeing indicates that there's
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  Speaker 1: not a risk this person will randomly attack people. He added,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to foreclose the possibility that
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  Speaker 1: it could be one or more people, but right now,
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  Speaker 1: they don't know who is responsible. Discussing the food truck footage,
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  Speaker 1: Thompson added, they're in the process of identifying the other
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  Speaker 1: people who were there and what sort of contact did
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  Speaker 1: they have. Mogan, Goncalves, Kernodle and Chapin died in the
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  Speaker 1: early hours of Sunday morning and were found around 1130 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: by a friend, possibly Dylan or Bethany. So still, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know who found them. Remember, we don't know who
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  Speaker 1: even made the 911 call yet. At least we haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen it in the articles we have covered. Now that
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  Speaker 1: information might be floating out there, but until it's in
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  Speaker 1: one of these articles and talked about it, I don't really,
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  Speaker 1: you know, dive too deep into the he said, she said.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I use these articles to guide our conversations
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  Speaker 1: so we stay on the right path, right? On Tuesday, DailyMail.com
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  Speaker 1: revealed that police on the scene described it as one
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  Speaker 1: of the worst they've ever seen and blood could be
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  Speaker 1: seen oozing through the wall on the second floor of
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  Speaker 1: the home. You can see the pictures here. They're pretty
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  Speaker 1: brutal and pretty scary, honestly. Blood seeping through the wall.
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  Speaker 1: It literally looks like something you would see in one
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  Speaker 1: of these slasher flicks. It's really disturbing. On Tuesday, police
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  Speaker 1: were seen collecting the contents of trash cans close to
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  Speaker 1: the home as part of the search for the edged
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  Speaker 1: weapon they believed was used in the killings. The trash
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  Speaker 1: was taken to a local garbage depot where hazmat-suited cops
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  Speaker 1: were seen sifting through the garbage bags in a screened-off shed. So,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like they're doing their due diligence, at least,
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  Speaker 1: going through the evidence and looking for clues wherever they
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  Speaker 1: think they can find them. Now, let's hope they get
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  Speaker 1: some results real soon. As far as we go here
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast... I wanted to make sure that we
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  Speaker 1: added this to the catalog, got it up there today.
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  Speaker 1: That way we're rolling along. Like I said earlier, if
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  Speaker 1: something of note pops up, I want to get it
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  Speaker 1: added to the catalog quickly. That way we can keep
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  Speaker 1: it moving and kind of have an idea on where
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  Speaker 1: things are at in this case, because this is a
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  Speaker 1: crazy one. And these people, let's remember the most important
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  Speaker 1: part here is these four young people who were murdered.
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  Speaker 1: They need justice. And their family need answers. And the
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  Speaker 1: community as a whole needs to know that there's not
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  Speaker 1: a murderer amongst them. So hopefully with the next update,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you that they have somebody in custody
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  Speaker 1: or a suspect or something like that. But until then,
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  Speaker 1: we'll continue laying the groundwork here so we can follow
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  Speaker 1: along with the story in hopes that we don't have
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  Speaker 1: to make too many more episodes. All right, everybody, that's
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