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He Jumped Out a 5th Floor Window... Then Quit _ EP 6(M4A_128K) · Luke's English Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Bad Hire, the show where epic hiring
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Speaker 1: Ken Monroe, and each week we dive into real life
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Sure, a lot of short and funny ones this week. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: you're a lot shorter than the one I've got.
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Speaker 2: One of my favorite ones that that I've I've heard
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Speaker 2: is the story maybe a lot of people have heard about.
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Speaker 2: But we'll maybe we'll start with you. And how's that?
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Speaker 2: How's that sound?
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Speaker 3: That's fine, that's all right, let's rock. I'm going to
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Speaker 3: do probably two. They're relatively were definitely not as long
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Speaker 3: as the ones that I've been reading, and they're not
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Speaker 3: as tragic as the one.
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Speaker 2: Good Yo, you mean something something heartwarming?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't call it his heartwarming, but I guess
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Speaker 3: it's kind of funny.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's that's good for the heart, all right.
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Speaker 3: I once had to fire a guy for bringing his
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Speaker 3: ninja weapons to work and showing them to everybody. It
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Speaker 3: took over two hours to fire him because he got
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Speaker 3: progressively more distraught and started spouting off crazy things like
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Speaker 3: I've always tried to have a heart because my sense
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Speaker 3: says that with the whole heart, you're nothing but a killer.
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Speaker 2: What bell was? He is?
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Speaker 3: What I want to know?
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Speaker 4: I'm assuming a yellow.
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Speaker 2: At the end of without a Heart, you're nothing but
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Speaker 2: a killer.
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Speaker 3: At the end of the two oh am, I not
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Speaker 3: supposed to say that.
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Speaker 2: Probably not, but nothing but a liar.
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Speaker 3: At the end of the two hours firing, he asked
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Speaker 3: if he could use the phone. All I heard was
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Speaker 3: his end of the conversation, of course, but it went
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Speaker 3: something like this, Mom, can you pick me up at work? Yes,
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Speaker 3: it happened again. Mom. I don't want to talk about it. Mom,
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Speaker 3: can you please just come here? He spent the next
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Speaker 3: two weeks standing outside the front door staring at us.
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Speaker 3: I had to get the security guard to remove him
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Speaker 3: and give him the old if you if you come back,
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Speaker 3: the cops will arrest you for transpassing talk.
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. You know His mom also drops him
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Speaker 4: off for his create lessons too, write like what kind
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Speaker 4: of ninja weapons? Like I'm talking like, are you talking
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Speaker 4: like like one of those called.
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Speaker 2: The throwing things throwing stars, throwing stars?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, kana viehnomb chucks.
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Speaker 2: Gotta be Yeah, did you have like self? Probably stuff
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Speaker 2: you shouldn't bring to work.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh gosh, it did not say that kind of.
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Speaker 2: I think the spookiest part of that story is that
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Speaker 2: he came like and stood outside of the building first. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the time after so creepy. That would be creepy with
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Speaker 2: someone who just got through showing you a bunch of
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Speaker 2: yeah and then just stuff.
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Speaker 4: Went to lisenso finds out about that one. Yeah, I'm
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Speaker 4: going to call your sense if you come back again.
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Speaker 2: Probably would have been there. It sounds like sounds like
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Speaker 2: someone young, though, who's got a lot to learn. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, you learn from your mistakes, you learn how
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Speaker 2: to be eight a mean's.
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Speaker 3: Him on the phone with his mom. Yes it happened again, right,
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Speaker 3: just come get me.
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Speaker 2: It's just part of the learning process for him, right.
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Speaker 2: Everybody goes through it.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to read another one. I worked for
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Speaker 3: a big company years ago as the shipping manager. One
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Speaker 3: of the guys I hired was an ex army guy.
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Speaker 3: He was pretty good, hard worker and all that. Still
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Speaker 3: a little off, if you know what I mean. So
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Speaker 3: one day he doesn't show up, no phone call. The
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Speaker 3: next day he calls me and he sounds like he's high.
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Speaker 3: He's in the hospital. After work. I go by the hospital.
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Speaker 3: We were kind of friends, and his whole right side
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Speaker 3: of his body is bruised, like bruises all get out,
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Speaker 3: serious bruising, broken leg an arm. I asked him what happened,
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Speaker 3: and he told me that him and his friends were
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Speaker 3: having a party in his fifth floor apartment. He was
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Speaker 3: having an argument with one of his friends. His friend
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Speaker 3: was saying that he never follows the follows through or
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Speaker 3: something like that. So my friends stated that he might.
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Speaker 3: So his friend said, oh, you never follow through whatever,
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Speaker 3: And he fires back and says, yes, I do. And
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Speaker 3: he says, if I told you I would jump out
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Speaker 3: of that window, I would.
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Speaker 4: Oh god.
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Speaker 3: My friend says, ha ha, you wouldn't dare. So he
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Speaker 3: leaps out of the window down onto the parking lot below.
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Speaker 3: He spent over a month in the hospital to prove
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Speaker 3: a point, and then he quit. And I never saw
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Speaker 3: her from him.
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Speaker 4: Now that's a stubborn person that.
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Speaker 3: He's caught his friend too. Yeah, like, oh, never saw
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Speaker 3: hold on him.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go jump out that door.
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Speaker 2: It's a great buddy of mine.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll never saw him again. Oh my goodness, Well
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Speaker 4: thank you. Those are great, nice and short.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, it's sweet.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: Again though somebody yeah dying get hurt?
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Speaker 2: You know he did again you. I don't know what
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Speaker 2: attracts you to these stories that where people are harm mine.
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Speaker 3: I'll do better next time. Take it away, Moran.
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Speaker 4: All right, So this is from Reddit. I had one
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Speaker 4: guy that was asked that had asked about background checks
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Speaker 4: because he was previously a government employee. He went to
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Speaker 4: a happy hour and while he was lacking better judgment,
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Speaker 4: he indulged in one too many cheesy appetizers. Turns out
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Speaker 4: he's lactose intolerant and his closest medication was in his office. Drunkenly,
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Speaker 4: he broke into the federal facility and a security guard
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Speaker 4: found him and he was fired. I really appreciated the
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Speaker 4: want to see I feel like that's a crazy rout
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Speaker 4: about story for somebody who broke into a federal facility.
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Speaker 2: Did he get fired because he was lad?
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Speaker 4: No, he got fired because he broke into a federal
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Speaker 4: facility because he had two.
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Speaker 3: So he had to get his medicine.
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Speaker 2: So we did get fired because he was lactose.
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Speaker 4: In talk pretty much yeah, been a round about wait No,
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Speaker 4: like he just needed his medication, Like I mean that's
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Speaker 4: sad anyways, And that was that one was crazy to me.
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Speaker 4: All right, here's another one. We did panel interviews and
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Speaker 4: selected this one guy. He was a great fit, lots
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Speaker 4: of experience, et cetera. So I inform our company's HR
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Speaker 4: department and wait for the okay to inform him. I
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Speaker 4: think it had been two days since his interview when
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Speaker 4: he called and asked, why the f have I not
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Speaker 4: heard anything yet?
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Speaker 2: In those exactly this is the this isn't even to
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Speaker 2: blow it up in the interview. This is the post interview.
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Speaker 4: Blow away, and he's gonna get hired right In those
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Speaker 4: exact words, he said that.
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Speaker 2: I am betting that, I am betting that recruiters get
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Speaker 2: this all the time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah they probably did.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guarantee you they get this all That's not
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Speaker 2: where someone follows up and.
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Speaker 3: What makes me You're getting hired after this?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 4: Oh that's what happened. They said, would chose someone else
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Speaker 4: after that best part HR cold thirty minutes later. Crazy stuff?
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Speaker 2: Wow?
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Speaker 4: Wow, So he really shot himself in the foot on
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Speaker 4: that one, or you know. Anyways, this is another funny one,
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Speaker 4: another interview. Some of these aren't even making into a
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Speaker 4: higher standpoint. But this one is I interviewed this lady
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Speaker 4: and she brought up how she had an issue with
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Speaker 4: an old coworker, and at the end of it, she
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Speaker 4: said that that coworker died of cancer. Of course, I said, oh,
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, or something similar to that degree, and she
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Speaker 4: responds with she got what she deserved. Oh this The
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Speaker 4: person said, yeah, no.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. They were okay. Was that an interview?
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Speaker 3: Yep said that in the interview. Can you imagine if
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Speaker 3: somebody said that you can No, I.
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Speaker 2: Don't even know where to go with that.
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Speaker 4: No, okay, ye, yeah, for real, That's what I don't
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Speaker 4: need to hear.
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Speaker 2: Will you care about your care your coworker and your
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Speaker 2: same loving way you do about your I don't know, yeah, imagine.
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Speaker 2: It's definitely not a cultural additive person.
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Speaker 4: No, all right, this is my last story for this episode.
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Speaker 4: I had a hiring manager call me after a zoom
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Speaker 4: interview he had with a candidate to tell me that
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Speaker 4: he couldn't keep his eyes off the bong and the
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Speaker 4: box of cheeses on the table behind him, so at
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Speaker 4: least he was honest.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what it is about people taking calls
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Speaker 4: like a cat a bong and a cheese it in
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Speaker 4: the background, like.
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Speaker 2: I think there, I think I think they're hardother bong.
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Speaker 3: Story we said too, it was the same cat story.
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Speaker 4: It was so maybe maybe that was his interview, that
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Speaker 4: was his interview into the company.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then later on he used it. Yeah, and
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Speaker 2: during during calls of customers. Yeah, that's all I have
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Speaker 2: the gurbling, bubbling sound I hear.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, don't you look behind you? Like normally I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 4: even if I'm in my office, I'm like, oh, there's
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Speaker 4: like someone behind him to go movie because it doesn't
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Speaker 4: look like professional.
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Speaker 2: I do you think that zoom calls and teams calls
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Speaker 2: and all these video calls are now getting you know,
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Speaker 2: it used to be. You know, I remember when COVID
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Speaker 2: first happened, has exploded. Everybody was still showing up like,
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Speaker 2: you know, dressed and looking sharp and everything. And then
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Speaker 2: over the course of COVID, it was like two months
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Speaker 2: in five months in.
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Speaker 3: Sleep on the call.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, people are just saying literally, you know, I
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Speaker 2: saw a TikTok one time and it was of like
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Speaker 2: managers on first day of COVID, you know, she was
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Speaker 2: just dressed totally like she would be in the office
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Speaker 2: and it's like six months, twelve minutes in the COVID.
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Speaker 2: In the last one, she's late to the meeting. She's
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Speaker 2: you know, hasn't showered or hare's a mess, she's you know,
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Speaker 2: it's just but it's it's really gotten that way where
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Speaker 2: people will flip flip their phone on or do anything,
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Speaker 2: just jump on and they're not really pay attention to
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Speaker 2: at least, Yeah, what's beside them?
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Speaker 3: This one little button you got.
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Speaker 2: I could see that happening in interviews, like all the
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Speaker 2: time with an interview and you're just like, what's behind
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Speaker 2: you here? There's we're looking at you. It's like we
12:38
Speaker 2: want to see some attention to detail. Yeah, right, Like
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Speaker 2: and you can't even handle a zoom call without looking
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Speaker 2: behind you and noticing that, you know, you've got trash
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Speaker 2: in your yesterday's lunch to land on the counter or something.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy. All right, Well, all.
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Speaker 4: Right, Ken, how about you? What's your storye today?
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Speaker 2: All right? Well before before we I've got one story
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell today. It's kind of alone. When I
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Speaker 2: love it. I think it's a really really I mean,
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Speaker 2: So let's let me find this real quick. All right?
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Speaker 2: You ready love love this one. I think we talked
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Speaker 2: a little bit about it this week, but it is
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Speaker 2: it is, uh, it is is a bit crazy. So
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Speaker 2: all right. His name is Winston knee when Knee when
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Speaker 2: all right, Winston kneewhen And some people are already going
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Speaker 2: I know this story, and before I dive into the details,
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Speaker 2: let me say this. I think I pronounced his right
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Speaker 2: name right. Now, Winston wasn't just some random teacher. He
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Speaker 2: was a Jeopardy champion. Yeah. You know the show, the music,
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Speaker 2: the buzzers, brilliant contestants raveling off answers. Most of us,
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Speaker 2: you know, I know me can't even dream of answering.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, how are these people so smart? That's that's Winston.
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Speaker 2: So he's that kind of smart. He had charge a
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Speaker 2: quick wit, the kind of intellect that made other people
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Speaker 2: go like, wow, that guy's a genius. Yeah, and he
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Speaker 2: won big on national television and that kind of spylight.
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Speaker 2: It sticks people remember, you know, you're like, hey, that
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Speaker 2: guy won a lot on Jeopardy. Yeah, you know, people
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Speaker 2: remembered him, and parents remember he's a teacher. Parents saw
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Speaker 2: that name on a resume, you know, or heard about
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Speaker 2: him and thought, oh, yeah, my kid's teacher was on Jeopardy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It was really really that's incredible. He's really small, yeah right.
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Speaker 2: It gave him instant credibility, instant trust. That's always run
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Speaker 2: flag right. Yeah. So in twenty twenty one, Winston was
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Speaker 2: hired at one of the most elite private schools in
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Speaker 2: New York on paper. He looked like a superstar. Parents
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Speaker 2: were impressed, students admired him. But here's the thing. The
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Speaker 2: school skipped a full background check, right, And we see this,
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Speaker 2: like we see this happen in our industry. When there's
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Speaker 2: an implied trust on someone, a lot of times they
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Speaker 2: either see something in a background check and look past aye.
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Speaker 2: You know, maybe you see this a lot in coaches
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Speaker 2: where there's like a super winning coach who applies and
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Speaker 2: they get the background check and they're like, you know,
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Speaker 2: I know one of the most horrific cases I know of.
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Speaker 2: They saw the background check and it was not good,
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Speaker 2: and they looked past it, and no one wanted to
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Speaker 2: be the person who brought it up. Yeah, that because
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Speaker 2: this state coach came and he was later he was
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Speaker 2: winning championships, and no one wanted to be the bearer
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Speaker 2: of bad news. But in this case, what they missed.
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Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, Winston had already been convicted of stealing
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Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars from an elderly couple. Like I
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Speaker 2: don't know how he stole it, but that would have
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Speaker 2: been because he had been had been convicted of that,
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Speaker 2: that would have been on his background check. That would
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Speaker 2: have been an absolute from for most schools, that would
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Speaker 2: have been an absolute no. So he's so he is. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that he stole from the elderly couple they get taken
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Speaker 2: advantage of. So bad, right, That is like probably the
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Speaker 2: worst type of moral character where you would target someone
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Speaker 2: like that. It shows a willingness to attack a vulnerable population. Yeah, right,
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Speaker 2: So that's what you would learn from that. It wouldn't
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Speaker 2: be that he couldn't do a financial crime in the school,
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Speaker 2: It's that he was willing to do it to someone
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Speaker 2: vulnerable like children. So a convicted felon walking into a
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Speaker 2: classroom full of kids because no one bothered to double
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Speaker 2: check his past to do the background screen, right, And
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Speaker 2: that wasn't even the darkest part. So it wasn't that
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Speaker 2: he just had done that crime. By day, Winston was
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Speaker 2: teaching middle schoolers. By night, he was online pretending to
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Speaker 2: be a teenager. Ugh. He used Snapchat to manipulate his
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Speaker 2: own students.
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Speaker 4: That's gross, that's so gross.
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Speaker 2: Into sending him explicit photos and videos of themselves for
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Speaker 2: two years. Two years he lived this double life, Oh
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Speaker 2: my gosh, showing up every morning in classroom like nothing
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Speaker 2: was wrong. It all came crashing down because one parent,
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Speaker 2: just one Yeah, they noticed something off about him and
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Speaker 2: they spoke up.
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Speaker 3: So good for them, because yeah.
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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, Winston was arrested on campus that
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Speaker 2: came to the school to kid him.
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Speaker 4: Then those poor kids and they have to find out
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Speaker 4: that they've been communicating with him and sending him those things. Yes,
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Speaker 4: that's a horrible the middle school.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine the trauma of them realizing that some of
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Speaker 2: what they sent, yeah, what they sent him when they
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Speaker 2: figure out what the story is very bad. And in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five he pled guilty. Seven years in prison,
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Speaker 2: registered seven I thought the same thing. Seven years in prison,
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Speaker 2: registered sex offender for life, as he should be, you know.
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Speaker 2: And what gets me about the story is like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: there's this man who stood under the bright lights of
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Speaker 2: Jeopardy and everybody loved him, winning, smiling, celebrated as one
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Speaker 2: of the smartest people in the room. You know. Just
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Speaker 2: a few years later, you know he's behind bars for
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Speaker 2: praying on children.
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Speaker 3: And that's horrible.
19:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it But it is that those bright
19:57
Speaker 2: lights and the credibility that make not doing the background check. Uh,
20:06
Speaker 2: you know, somebody could say, well, that's an easy decision,
20:08
Speaker 2: or we know them when we hear that a lot
20:10
Speaker 2: from talking to some organizations where they say, oh, you know,
20:14
Speaker 2: we don't screen everybody, or we you know, we.
20:16
Speaker 3: It's a small town.
20:17
Speaker 2: Well till we know everybody. We've heard that before for sure, right,
20:20
Speaker 2: you know. So it's like, so just a few years later,
20:23
Speaker 2: he's behind bars, praying on children. It's the kind of
20:26
Speaker 2: fall from grace that makes your stomach turn. And here's
20:30
Speaker 2: the bottom line, all of it, every single part of it,
20:35
Speaker 2: could have been prevented with one thorough background check. Right,
20:41
Speaker 2: So this when I get out of this story. So
20:43
Speaker 2: I want to like, when I thought about the end
20:45
Speaker 2: of the story, what I It's it's easy to think about, Wow,
20:51
Speaker 2: that HR person really messed up, and HR people you know, bad, bad,
20:55
Speaker 2: bad kind of you know, mistake, mistake. But the reality
20:58
Speaker 2: is to the HR pros who do do the hard work, right,
21:03
Speaker 2: who do do the background checks, who run those checks,
21:06
Speaker 2: who take the time to make sure, who do the
21:09
Speaker 2: resume matchups to make sure that they're talking to the
21:12
Speaker 2: same person, that all the things we hear about on
21:14
Speaker 2: the show, all these bad hires with the mistakes are
21:17
Speaker 2: made or people lied who do the work to actually
21:20
Speaker 2: vettle that out, you know, truly, truly, truly, like thank
21:25
Speaker 2: you for the work they do. It is unsung. They
21:29
Speaker 2: are in the prevention business and there are no awards
21:31
Speaker 2: for prevention because nothing happened. And in the case of this,
21:37
Speaker 2: had they done the background check, they would have just
21:40
Speaker 2: done it. It would have been another we can hire
21:43
Speaker 2: this person and nothing would have happened, and there would
21:47
Speaker 2: be no award for preventing this.
21:49
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was just about to say, it's stories
21:51
Speaker 3: like this that make you realize how important it is.
21:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so to those hr pros who do do
21:58
Speaker 2: it and who do it every single day, they're holding
22:00
Speaker 2: the line there. There's prevent they're preventing things like this
22:03
Speaker 2: from happening. I think about the story and go, hey,
22:05
Speaker 2: thank you. You will never be rewarded for how you
22:10
Speaker 2: should be because because you prevented this from happening. Yeah,
22:16
Speaker 2: and so nothing happened, right, and it seems so mundane. Yeah,
22:20
Speaker 2: but that's it.
22:21
Speaker 4: So also drops to that person who spoke up about
22:24
Speaker 4: like their suspicions inherent Yeah, one parent.
22:28
Speaker 2: So because because you're you know, thank you to those uh,
22:32
Speaker 2: the hr pros recruiters who do that work because they're
22:35
Speaker 2: not just protecting companies. You know, it's not just trying
22:38
Speaker 2: to keep the company from getting sued throughout us. They're
22:40
Speaker 2: protecting in this case children. Yeah, you know too, so students.
22:44
Speaker 2: So anyway, that one hits a bit different. It's it's
22:47
Speaker 2: not just a bad hire, it's like a complete system
22:50
Speaker 2: failure there. You know, you're talking about parents trusting a
22:52
Speaker 2: school with their kids, and you know, just one skip
22:56
Speaker 2: background check, let someone like that through the door. You
22:59
Speaker 2: get a to be so awesome. And this is why
23:02
Speaker 2: we hammer the point of background checks, aren't you know,
23:04
Speaker 2: they're not red tape. You know they aren't, and it's
23:07
Speaker 2: easy to think they are. It's easy to fall into
23:09
Speaker 2: that trap. But this stuff happens. So you know, background
23:14
Speaker 2: checks protect organizations and their reputations, but they protect people too,
23:19
Speaker 2: So skipping them isn't cutting corners really, it's it's you're gambling,
23:23
Speaker 2: really with other people's lives. So that's that's all. That's
23:28
Speaker 2: all I had today. I just wanted to read that
23:29
Speaker 2: one story because it really touched me this week when
23:31
Speaker 2: I was reading stories, and you know, the big message
23:35
Speaker 2: for me was just I just felt thankful for the
23:38
Speaker 2: amount of people who do do the work, who are
23:40
Speaker 2: in the prevention business that never win any awards, and
23:43
Speaker 2: so I don't know. That's it, right, So that's it
23:46
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24:44
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24:48
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24:51
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