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ENCORE: YOUR MIDLIFE CLOSET IF YOU STARTED FROM SCRATCH (PART TWO) · Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50

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  Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
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  you to let it go and don't look back.
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  We've nationally acclaimed professional organizer Christine
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  Stone and self-proclaimed Hot Damn Mess radio and TV
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  personality Eden Kendall welcome everyone to Uncluttered.
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  And unfiltered with the podcast for women over 50, my name is
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  Eden Kendall. With me is Christine Stone.
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  She's a professional organizer. And while not every episode that
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  we do is about organization, we always have at least an
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  organizational tip included. And sometimes the entire episode
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  stems around your organizational mindset.
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  Yes, and expertise with ladies over 50 when it comes to
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  closets. So we are going to talk about
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  this is a Part 2. So if you did not hear our last
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  episode, we are going to send you back to that one, get you
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  caught up. But the premise is for those who
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  did. But you're over 50.
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  So you need a reminder because I don't know about you, but when
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  I'm watching, if I'm binge watching a show, let's say, and
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  24 hours goes by, I have to watch.
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  The me too. Always have to watch the recap.
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  Me too. So if that's you, we'll recap a
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  little bit. We were saying this is unlike
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  other closet organization episodes because in this one,
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  we're setting the example of all the examples I gave, the one you
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  like the best was you're in witness protection.
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  Yeah, I love that you. You've been you.
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  You're you have to like, grab a few things and leave your house
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  and go live somewhere else and start completely over new
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  identity. You can be whoever you want to
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  be. You're going to start your
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  closet from scratch. Other examples would be like a
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  fire or things like that that aren't aren't nearly as
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  thrilling that those are terrible.
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  This one is exciting you. You've completely taken down a
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  crime boss family. Oh, this is.
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  Good. Good and juicy and and nobody's
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  going to know you but your immediate family where you go so
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  you can literally be the person you've always dreamed of being.
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  All right now you're starting from scratch.
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  Some of the things that Christine has already told you
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  are you want some basics in your in your.
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  Wardrobe. And we've talked about how you
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  don't have to spend the most. There are things that you get at
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  Target, for example, T-shirts, tank tops, things like.
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  That I do, I do, I think that it's not about what something
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  costs, it's how you feel you look in it.
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  And so I when you're starting from scratch, we've already
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  talked about the T-shirts, long and short sleeve tank tops.
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  That's a given. But having a really great
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  blazer. A few years ago I was visiting
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  my daughter in Dallas and I for myself for my birthday, for a
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  treat, I decided to buy a little pricey blazer.
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  But the reason why I invest in it because I said I live in
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  Florida, I'm only going to wear this blazer in the winter time
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  in the fall when I go to Nashville to visit my daughter
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  or whatever. OK, I have worn this blazer to
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  death, to death. Why?
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  Because it's not wool, it's not heavy, it's black of course and
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  it looks great with everything with leggings, with jeans, with
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  wide leg jeans, you name it. So having that one piece,
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  whether it's an investment or just a really great looking,
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  great looking, well fitted blazer will carry you through so
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  many different things that you may need to go to.
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  And so I it was just in j.crew factory.
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  Another hint that I'm giving you all because they have 5060% off
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  all the time at my j.crew factory had the most gorgeous
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  black blazer for so cheap and they had camel color.
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  So you don't need to go and spend top dollar.
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  You can get them at Banana Republic Factory, j.crew factory
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  and they always always have sales.
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  I don't think I've ever been into any of them that there
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  isn't some sort of sale going on.
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  So having a really great blazer, I also buy a lot of my satiny
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  silky tops on sale at j.crew Factory and Banana Republic
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  Factory because they have petites, which is great so I
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  don't have to get things altered.
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  And you can look really put together with just blue jeans
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  and a really great silk top and a really trendy belt.
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  And, and that was in our last episode too.
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  We were discussing how that one trendy item, whether it's a
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  piece of jewelry or it's a belt, really makes all the difference.
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  You know, a nice silk top and a pair of black pants.
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  Not a trendy thing, not going out of style anytime soon, but
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  if you wear it with something that's very trendy, then it
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  shows. You know, I, I'm up on what's
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  fashionable. I choose to go with classic,
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  right? And something trendy.
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  It's a it's a look I aspire to, quite honestly.
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  I really do. Well, that's why I always say,
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  like I said in the last episode, if you see a woman over 50 and
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  you love her style and it's more something you could see yourself
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  wearing, follow them, see what they wear.
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  Not at the mall. Like don't follow them.
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  You're talking about online? Yeah, no stalking, but really
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  keeping them in a place that you can maybe check back weekly on
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  their like to know it or their shop my or on Pinterest.
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  If you see a style, pin it and save it for later and do what
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  you said with the Google reverse lookup.
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  Yes. So.
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  Create your own board, you know, on Pinterest of all the fashion
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  that you like. It's so easy to do and it really
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  gives you really great ideas because sometimes it's hard to
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  think what is my style? What is my fashion statement?
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  What, what do I like? And it helps when you see what
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  you like on other people. So that's something I really
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  highly suggest and I do it myself all the time.
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  I think too, that the purging the the the major that mindset
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  of thinking I'm starting over. If you were to add some of these
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  things into your wardrobe, they would disappear into your closet
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  and you might it, it just wouldn't feel the same as as
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  knowing. OK, I've narrowed it down to
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  these basics. Right.
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  And you're able to just constantly mix and match what
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  you have and then pull a scarf that has color, a belt that's
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  trending right now or jewelry. Jewelry to me is an accessory
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  and I never buy trendy jewelry full price ever, because I just
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  think and it's not going to be a thing, you know, like the charm
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  necklaces right now. I would, I would, I love them.
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  I think they're awesome. But you know, and I know in two
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  years or two years there's going to be something else.
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  It will be something else. So if you spend a lot and I want
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  to say the one I'm wearing, I have on the layered kind of
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  necklace and I think these are j.crew factory, right?
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  So that's, you know. Exactly.
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  So you can get great purses and belts and scarves and hats and
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  anything for half price, 50% off at any.
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  And Taylor, I find a lot of things, they're always having
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  sales too. So if you're looking for
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  sweaters or work pants, they have really great items for
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  inexpensive. So now we're going to move on to
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  dress pants like having a nice pair of black dress pants.
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  I can't tell you how many times, like whether I hate to say this,
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  but a funeral or some a luncheon somewhere where you need the
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  dressier black dress pants. And you can put a colorful top
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  if you want, or a white blouse or a sweater and then put a
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  trendy belt or something with that.
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  But you have to have a really nice pair of black slacks.
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  If you like straight leg ones, then do straight leg.
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  If you like a wide leg or a little bit of a flare to it or a
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  boot cut, do those. But you have to be able to have
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  that one pair of dressy black slacks.
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  And in the winter around the holidays, you can add a sequin
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  top to it, which makes it just look even more dressy, A sequin
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  sweater. So that's why I think it's so
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  important to have dressy just a couple.
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  You don't need to go overboard on the dressy pants.
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  Joggers. I have to talk about joggers
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  because I am the jogger queen. That is my because I work in it,
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  I play in it. I feel like right elastic.
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  I think these are great as a solid color too.
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  So you get like the matching top with the bottom because you're
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  not cutting yourself off at the waist and it just looks more put
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  together. And then I always bring a denim
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  jacket to go with everything, even my athleisure.
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  I like to shop so many places for athleisure.
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  I like Athleta, I like the Gap, which we don't have a gap here
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  anymore, so everything's online because they also have sales all
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  the time. So I just think not only can you
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  look polished in athleisure, it it just can be your staple look,
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  changing out the tennis shoes to a different kind of tennis shoe,
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  putting really great jewelry with it.
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  So if that's something that you're going to live in because
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  that's your lifestyle now, whether you're retired, you
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  know, you work in athleisure, that's a great place to really
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  pick and choose. They have great athleisure, even
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  a target and really invest in pieces that you will wear all
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  the time. And like I said, right now I'm
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  in my phase of wearing like the one color look, but you can wear
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  a different color top if that's sure, you know.
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  So that's another thing is and the denim jacket that I talked
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  about, I've had mine for three years now.
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  I wear it all the time, all the. Time.
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  You always have it. I always have it with me.
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  That's like my go to staple. I also have a denim, black denim
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  jacket, white denim jacket because those are timeless and I
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  bought those years ago like j.crew, factory outlet,
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  whatever. And I keep them and I wear them
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  all the time. So that's what I mean by
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  investing in pieces that are never going to really be out of
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  style. And that is, you know, I'm not
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  even kidding when I say that is a look that I aspire to.
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  I am trying to really simplify things and make it to where
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  because, and I can't remember now if it was this episode of
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  the last one, probably the last one that I do for work.
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  I, I rent a lot of clothing. We've talked about this.
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  So I really have no reason why I can't just very much simplify my
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  own closet because I know that for the fancy events or for the,
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  you know, for a little variety on TVI have a regular line
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  coming in of some clothing. But, and that's something you
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  can do too. I mean, we talked about this.
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  We've had one of the companies has been an advertiser on and
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  off with us as well. And, and so that's something you
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  could do if you feel like, well, if I, if I go this route, then I
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  don't have the variety. I mean, you can always borrow or
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  rent things too, but that's not I don't want to get off topic
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  because that's not a Chris Stone and I want to stick with your
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  well, I. Think the rent though is perfect
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  for weddings if you have a wedding to go to because how
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  often? If it's a black tie wedding, you
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  don't want to go buy a black tie wedding outfit that you'll never
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  ever ever ever wear again. I definitely would rent items
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  like that and there's so many different places that you can
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  rent from, so that way it goes back after you're done wearing
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  it. It's not taking up room.
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  And to give you an example, you could, you know, prices always
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  vary and and I'm on a subscription so it's a lot less
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  expensive. But if you were going to do a
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  one time thing like that, I mean you could spend probably 100 or
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  less and be wearing something valued at about $800 easily.
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  Yeah, I agree. I.
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  Everyone will compliment on you, compliment you in it.
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  It will be fabulous. I agree.
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  I think that's the way to go for any type of fancy event that you
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  have. Now we're going to talk about my
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  other favorite thing, the little black dress.
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  The LBD. Yes, and I love a little black
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  dress, whether it is long sleeve for the fall, short sleeve in
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  the spring, sleeveless with a cute cardigan.
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  I think a little black dress can be worn fancy, but it could also
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  be dressed down, super dressed down.
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  So having little black dresses #1 I feel a black dress is very
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  flattering, especially when you throw your undergarments on
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  underneath. I mean, I really think it's just
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  a classic look. Even if you have pearls that
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  your mother gave you, just it's such a timeless classic look.
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  And a black dress is another way.
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  You could have animal print shoes, sling back shoes.
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  You can have an animal print scarf.
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  There's some how many different things you can trend out a
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  little black dress. So that is one thing I think
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  every woman needs in her closet is a great fitting little black
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  dress. You can have a couple, like I
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  said, one that's sleeveless, one that's long sleeve because it's
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  different times a year, but really investing in one that you
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  feel good when you look in the mirror.
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  My favorite little black dress is from Nordstrom Rack.
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  Oh, I love Nordstrom, Nordstrom Rack.
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  I was just there the other day. I got great things there.
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  Yeah, that's. OK, now we're going to get into,
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  we got into tennis shoes, but now we're going to get into
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  regular shoes, like loafers are really popular right now.
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  Loafers. Oh yes, they are.
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  You know, I just saw some really cute They looked almost like
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  sneakers and loafers combined. Yep, so those are really trendy.
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  I personally have a weird foot. It's hard for me to wear
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  anything with a flat, like you know what I mean?
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  If you have something like a little bit of an arch, it's hard
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  for me to wear. But other people wear them and
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  they look amazing. Amazing.
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  You can get loafers because it's trendy right now for inexpensive
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  and add those to jeans, even if you're doing straight leg jeans,
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  skirts, anything. So that's one option that's
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  trendy right now. A pump, which I will never wear
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  again. And we've already talked about
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  this. I mean, if I had to, I guess I
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  would or I'd wear them for 5 minutes.
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  But when I did my total closet clean out, which you can listen
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  to that episode, all the stiletto Y high heels like that
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  had to go. So I went back in with platform
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  shoes, which are also relatively timeless because that's all I
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  could wear was like a block heel, a platform heel where my
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  foot wasn't pressing all the way down into the toes.
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  Yes, if this is exciting to you then there are two episodes you
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  can go back and listen to. The one where Christine did her
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  own closet cleanup, but also the one with the podiatrist.
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  Yes. So.
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  She'll tell you exactly which kind of shoes are gonna be the
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  most comfortable and the best. Right.
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  And I think also with boots, whether they're booties or tall
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  boots. So for me realistically where I
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  am at in my life, I do have one pair of black high boots, but
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  I've had them. It's not something new that I
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  went out and bought. I think I've worn them once.
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  I mean, I'm just you're more into the high boots, I think
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  because you have a real, you know, job that you have to wear
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  those for. I don't they're like a, I'll
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  wear them one time a season, but I also live in Florida and I
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  think that has a lot to do with it.
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  If I lived up north, I'd probably own more than one pair.
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  So I think really figuring out what style you like.
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  I'm more of a booty girl, you know, I like a cute little booty
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  because I can wear those with all my flair stuff because I
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  like bootcut Jean, a flair Jean and they just look cute because
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  you just see the top sticking out.
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  So I've believe believe shoes are a preference, but you can
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  have good looking comfortable shoes now where you used to not
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  be. If they were comfortable, they
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  were old lady shoes, right? You know, and you don't have
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  that anymore. You can buy good looking
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  comfortable shoes now. So take advantage of that.
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  I'm going to quickly go into accessories.
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  What is an accessory? OK, so like I said, jewelry.
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  You can buy them from bauble bar.
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  The I get a lot of stuff there that are trendy, but they look
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  good and they, they have the look for less anything.
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  I, I and I also have gold Bengal bracelets that were given to me
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  that I, you know, I inherited that I wear all the time, all
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  the time. They're like my signatures.
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  They're classics. So really looking at your fine
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  jewelry that you may have and repurposing it.
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  How would I wear, you know, these bangle bracelets with
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  other bracelets that may be trendy.
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  You can mix good with fake. It doesn't have to be one way or
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  another. So really looking at the jewelry
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  you have and then making a list of, hey, I like this trend.
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  I think I'm going to look into getting, like you said, beaded
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  bracelets in black or white that I can wear with different
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  things. So that's one way is accessories
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  or jewelry. The other way that we've talked
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  about our belts and scarves. Anything to do with earrings I
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  love. I am the signature hoop girl.
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  I have them in all different colors.
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  Some are inexpensive, some were real and I wear those all the
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  time because my hair is long and it's hard for me to wear other
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  kind of like. They get lost, they get.
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  Lost so really thinking of all the items that you can wear that
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  accessorize. Even watch bands are trendy
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  accessories that you can change out your watch bands if you have
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  an apple to watch. So really thinking about purses,
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  clutches, crossbodies, all of those can be accessories to a
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  look that you're wearing. For me, purses are the one place
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  where I will allow myself to spend a little more.
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  Because think about that. Your purse, your bag is the
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  thing you carry every day. Every day.
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  It's it's. If you're going, I mean, I'm not
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  saying you have to and there's certainly many, many beautiful
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  bags out there that are not designer.
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  And I'm not even talking about designer.
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  I'm just talking about a nice quality bag that suits what you
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  need it to do. And I my rationalization on that
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  is kind of the same as like a really nice pair of say gold
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  hoops, right? You know if they're going to be
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  with you every day, day in, day out.
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  Well, and I don't know about you, but I've gotten really into
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  the crossbody because my neck always hurts when I carry my
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  regular tote that I love because I am a tote girl.
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  You know, it's been really hard. So I've really gotten into
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  different types of crossbodies, different colors.
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  I even like a pop of a Red Cross body.
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  I just. Say stop it you.
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  Crazy, I love the pop of color in accessories so that's another
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  thing. And then find a good seamstress.
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  They're hard to find. I found one like 6 months ago
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  and I'm there all the time because part of what what people
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  don't like is their clothing isn't fitting them well.
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  It's not that it's either too big or I mean there are even
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  things if it's too small but you love the pants that they can let
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  out the waist if you really love them.
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  So finding a really great seamstress for alterations for
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  Hemming pants, because a lot of people buy things and then they
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  just leave them sitting in their closet and they don't hem them.
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  I have a great story. About this.
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  No, it's a great story. When I was in, I want to say it
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  was 7th grade, I was so skinny, so, so skinny that all the girls
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  were wearing the Jordache and the Sassoons and they were
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  wearing them cuffed at the bottom and tight, tight, tight.
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  But for me, I would go into the stores and if they fit me
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  anywhere else, they were way too short.
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  They were high waters. They called them back then.
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  So I couldn't have that look. So we went to a seamstress and
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  she took cuffs. She made cuffs from another pair
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  of jeans and literally sewed fake cuffs to the bottom of
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  jeans that were they fit me because they were tight but they
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  would be like way too short on me and she would add cuffs to
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  the bottom to make them the right length and look like they
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  were long enough to cuff. Well, now we would call her a
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  gem. She was a.
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  Gem Yeah, it's hard to find really good seamstress, I mean.
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  I'm telling and I had to do that.
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  Having a seamstress fix the length of a jacket, you know, on
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  your arms or a blouse, it's like night and day.
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  I mean, you look sloppy and then you look really great and pulled
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  together. So another thing I'm going to
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  talk about which people don't really think counts is pajamas.
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  I. What?
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  Yes, it counts. It counts.
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  And why does it count? Listen, I see so many pajama
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  drawers and I mean, I can't tell you.
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  I see someone laughing over there.
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  Pajamas need to count in this. We're revamping our closet
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  situation. Because for me, even recently I
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  said that's it, I'm done. And I went and I got rid of all
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  those pajamas that had seen better days, that didn't really
• 23:29
  fit right, that had stains on them or whatever, and bought all
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  new pajama sets, whether they were short sets, long pant sets
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  that were cotton, that the more you wash them, they feel better.
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  And I got them all on sale at j.crew factory and they said
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  they're 100% cotton. They're great.
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  But really, I mean, it steps up the PJ bedtime game.
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  You look good. You can walk around your house.
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  They it's a set and they just feel better over time the more
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  you wash them. So the pajama drawer counts.
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  I'm not saying you have to get rid of all those T-shirts that
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  you wear because everybody has their favorite T-shirt.
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  I'll even say to my husband when the Tom Petty T-shirt comes out,
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  he knows don't talk to her, don't look at her.
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  Just let her get in bed and go to sleep.
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  That's what I tell him. Be careful.
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  The Tom Petty T-shirt. That's back off.
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  Yeah, that that's like that. Girl that's don't cover her.
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  Come here no more. Don't come around here anymore,
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  as Tom said, God rest his soul. So anyway, I'm not saying that
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  we all have that one T-shirt, that one pair of pajamas that
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  just brings you such comfort. You know what I mean?
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  Just I can't wait to put it on. I'm talking about the whole
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  entire drawer. And that goes with
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  undergarments, which we touched on, but I don't know about you,
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  but I have to have my Spanx underwear.
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  I have to have my Spanx Shorty things, my Spanx everything.
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  Not not because I wear them. If with everything, it's for the
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  things that I have to wear them with that makes makes me feel
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  better. So better fitting bras.
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  It just makes such a big deal. And everyone says, well, no
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  one's seeing me. And I always say this because
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  that's what I hear. You don't need your neighbors to
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  see you in your undergarments to feel good about them.
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  You need yourself to see in the mirror and go, oh, that's a nice
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  fitting bra or, oh, I love this that it doesn't have underwire,
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  but it's so lifting. It really makes a difference in
• 25:41
  your undergarments. So that's, that's another really
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  big thing that I am an advocate for is the undergarments.
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  And like I said, there are so many places that I shop that you
• 25:51
  probably have some ideas on where you shop.
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  I love Ever Eve for women over 50.
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  Their stuff can be what is it called Ever Eve.
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  Ever Eve. They have them at our mall, they
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  have them online. You could shop online.
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  It's for women over 50. I'm not saying women under 50
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  can't shop there, because they can.
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  Well, we'll look at you the way you look at us at Forever 21.
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  Just, you know. Exactly, exactly.
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  I love like I said, J regular j.crew, j.crew factory, Banana
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  Republic factory. I'm not really finding anything
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  at regular Banana Republic anymore.
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  I I don't know what happened there.
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  I don't know if they switched buyers or what they did, but I'm
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  not a big fan and Taylor has really stepped up their game.
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  If you're looking for a dressier pair of slacks or nice shirt and
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  they always have sales too. Everybody always seems to have
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  sales. If you're going to shop online,
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  which a lot of people do, just make sure you can return it
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  because that seems to be the kiss of death when you keep
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  buying and buying but you don't return anything that you and.
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  If it has a restocking fee, that's.
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  Bullshit. Yeah, I agree with that too.
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  If it has a restocking fee, don't do it.
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  Just don't do it. So.
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  That just the first thing that tells me right off the bat is
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  the customer service is lacking. That's just what it screams to
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  me. Exactly.
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  So when you are restocking and getting ready to start from
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  scratch, don't forget your notepad.
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  Write down the things you're getting rid of that you need to
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  replace. And like I said, try to keep it
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  neutral so that you can mix and match everything.
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  And stick with Classics when you're buying something that may
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  be a little pricey so that you can wear it year after year
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  after year. Thank you.
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  I am so inspired. It's so funny you think like
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  when and done I'd clean out my closet, but I'm ready to start
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  all over again and from scratch. Please do join us on our ladies
• 27:51
  only uncluttered and unfiltered Facebook group.
• 27:53
  We're going to wrap it up on that.
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  And and also I want to remind you of this.
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  OK, once you've purged your closet because you're going to
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  start from scratch, instead of driving around with it in your
• 28:04
  car for three weeks, stop at the Goodwill or wherever and let it
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  go. And don't look back.