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JP Morgan Just Did the UNTHINKABLE… and it Should Disturb ALL of Us · Man in America Podcast

• 1:33
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So today, I'm glad to be back in the studio with doctor Kerr Kelly. We've got some pretty significant updates, and the big thing is JPMorgan Chase made a major, major move that, in my opinion, is pushing us straight towards some sort of dystopian novel social credit system. So we're gonna be digging into this and and really an update on the overall status of where the central bank digital currency is at and the social credit system and whether it really poses a threat to our fundamental freedom.
• 2:12
  So, folks, enjoy this interview with Doctor. Kirk Elliott. Kirk, it's great to see you, man. It feels like it's been months. You know, it's only been a couple of weeks.
• 2:22
  It's good to have you back I
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: know, so many changes and it does seem like forever. It's like, man, where's Seth? What's going on? Busy life moves, studios, I mean, it's just wild as we grow and impact and influence and what God's doing in our lives. But it does seem like forever.
• 2:43
  There's no doubt.
• 2:45
  Seth Holehouse: It's like time is moving faster now, and what used to take six months happens in a course of six weeks. It may look the same because we didn't redesign the studio, but I'm in a whole new studio, I'm across the nation, I'm not gonna give out even the state I'm in, because I actually had people showing up to my house like because people knew I lived in Ohio and they somehow figured out where I lived it was really creepy so now I'm just gonna tell people what state I'm in, but I'm in actually in a studio that's probably four times the size of my previous home studio. And we have some just some really good plans we're going to be building an in person set, hopefully you'll be coming out for like a long, you know, three or four hour deep dive interview. So amidst the craziness, there's actually a lot of really good things going on.
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait for that. That would be great. I'm really counting down the minutes till we get to do that because there's always so much to talk about. When we get together, It's just the synergy is even better than when we're just on a on a video call here. So I can't wait.
• 3:54
  Seth Holehouse: It is. So diving into, there's just, there's so much to talk about. But there's one story that I saw over the past couple of days that had all of my sirens going off and for a lot of different reasons. And that is the story of Doctor. Joseph Mercola had his Chase accounts shut down.
• 4:20
  And not just his Chase bank accounts. It was the so the opening paragraph says JP Morgan and this is at MSN MSN well, actually, it's Daily Caller on MSN. JPMorgan Chase canceled vaxxed skeptic doctor Joseph Mercola's business account. This is and the personal accounts of Mercola Markets CEO, his wife, and the company's CFO. And I think even their children had their accounts canceled according to documents obtained by the Daily Caller News Foundation.
• 4:57
  So this we also had Nigel Farage recently had his accounts shut down because of his relationship with Trump and his political stance, but this is frightening. I mean, we've you know, okay, you can maybe you know you get kicked off of Twitter, or your Facebook you get into Facebook jail. That doesn't affect your life, but to have your your bank accounts, shut down by Chase who also just so happens to be the bank that's buying up all these small to medium sized banks as they collapse. Is that a coincidence? I mean, what is this?
• 5:37
  What kind of feature does this show you, Kirk?
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: Well, okay. So there's a lot to be alarmed with on this. So, you know, most of our most of our viewers on this show would really resonate well with the message of Nigel Farage or Doctor. Mercola. Who is Doctor.
• 5:58
  Mercola? He's not like a political activist. He wants people healthy. He has supplements, he has vitamins, he's a doctor, he wants them healthy. And he spoke out against vaccines, he's a skeptic on it.
• 6:13
  They didn't give him that reason really. They just said, we're cutting you up. But here's the scary part about what they did. They didn't just say, you're not being able to access your account anymore, but anybody that works for you, their spouses and their kids. It's like, what?
• 6:30
  So now anybody that kind of has an association with you, if they don't like you could see their stuff go away, right? And their access to their money. Now, so here's where we've been talking about for months now the whole concept of central bank digital currency and the whole notion that it's all about control, it's all about people control, it's all about social control. It's like, Kirk, why would you say it's about social control? Because they said that it is.
• 7:03
  In the Federal Reserve docket, OP-sixteen 70, when they're defining what money is in the Fed Now app, this is where they basically designed the Fed Now app and it was put in the Federal Register. The definition of money, a unit of exchange, yeah, you give somebody some cash and you can buy something with it, right? It has a value, $5.10, 20, and it should be a hold of value. You expect if you have this $20 bill in your pocket for a few months, it's going to be worth $20 a little while from now. Well, inflation is eroding that, right?
• 7:38
  So they got a problem with that. But they added this fourth definition to money, which is social control. So I don't say that I'm saying it, this is what they redefined money as. And now when you fast forward three years from those statements, we're seeing what they mean by social control. When you shut down Joseph Mercola because of his stance on vaxxes, when you shut down Nigel Farage, a very popular, you know, British politician.
• 8:12
  Right? He was in he led the Brexit movement. He was pushing for freedom for people in The United Kingdom to get out of the European Union. He wanted the people in England to be able to vote for themselves and have their voice heard. Right?
• 8:27
  But so because he's a prominent politician, they had to give a 40 page dossier on why they gave him the boot from his bank, was Coutts, c o u t t s was the name of the bank. No, this bank is kind of this upper echelon, upper crust, snooty kind of only wealthy people can go to this private wealth management bank, which he is a very wealthy person. I'm not talking about somebody that nobody would really care about, a bank like you or me or Jane Doe that has a thousand dollars at Bank of America. Is a very prominent person. It's not somebody like us.
• 9:10
  They were willing to actually take the heat for what they did. But in the announcement, in the dossier when they explained why they got rid of them, so they said Brexit was mentioned 86 times in this memo, Russia One Hundred And Forty Four times, PEP, which I'm not even sure what that is, it might be some kind of European thing, 10 times, but also support for Trump, views on immigration, net zero, and the vaccine. So ideology, right? So now they're getting in trouble for impeding people's freedom of speech. It's like, oh, and they claim no, they have the right to say what they want to.
• 9:52
  It's like, no, they don't. People have freedom of speech nowadays if you agree with the globalist. If you don't, you have none. Right? So that's how they're now defining freedom of speech.
• 10:02
  It's like, you can say whatever you want as long as you agree with us. Other than that, you can't say anything because now we have teeth and we'll cut you off from your money if you say anything that deviates from the message that we want you to say. It's gotten that extreme. And that's why this this Mercola thing is is actually even more scary, so to speak, than than Farage. Why?
• 10:30
  Because it's an American bank. It's JPMorgan Chase. It's the bank that's buying up all these other banks around the country, and so pretty soon you're gonna have all this consolidation in the banking world, you know, under maybe four or five big international money center banks that are buying the medium banks, the medium banks are buying the small banks, all under this one umbrella with this weird notion that under programmable money, which is what central bank digital currency is, and under having in a central bank digital currency world a new process where all of your assets come together under a unified ledger, where they know the source of the funds, know the use of the funds, they know who the owner is, it's the opposite of blockchain decentralized cryptocurrency where everything is private. They control the data. They know everything about you.
• 11:26
  But it's no longer immutable and it's no longer unprogrammable. Meaning they can change the ownership whenever they want, for whatever reason they want. And ideology or how you think, how you believe is going to be whether you keep married to your money or not. I mean, this is what they are showing us by their actions.
• 11:50
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?
• 12:10
  This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.
• 12:43
  So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food.
• 13:02
  This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is. So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar.
• 13:32
  They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etc. But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food. And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year.
• 13:57
  Again, depends on your budget, but I'll definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed, those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future. So to go ahead and do this right now, go up a new tab and go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, that's s e t h, promo code Seth, you'll save 15% off of your entire order. So again, folks, the time is running out and you'd rather be three months or one year early than one day late. Again, heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth to save 15% today.
• 14:33
  What's crazy is that here in America, we believe so much in the Constitution, the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, and just looking at the First Amendment, there's been so much fight over the deplatforming that's been happening on social media, right, the shadow banning the accounts being shut down the demonetization. There's been so much about that it's like this is a direct. This is a direct threat to our freedom of speech. And the thing is, is that if you look at you, Twitter now X, which I like Twitter much better, but okay, that's a different story.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: X. Yeah.
• 15:12
  Seth Holehouse: X. Okay. If you look at that platform, everyone's like, great. Now we can say anything we want to. Well, it's like, well, what happens when they start maybe they want you to do that because maybe the next step of this is this social credit system, where it's now going to be you're going to all sudden get a message from your bank saying, look, based upon your recent social media activity, and here's some screenshots of those four different tweets you put out, we're going to have to cease doing business with you.
• 15:47
  Mean, what's going to happen to me? I mean, I'm certainly on some list somewhere. I'm a person that's sitting in front of a camera. I'm not this some anonymous like, you know, like Trump MAGA 45 or whatever. I'm a person that my name is Seth Holehouse.
• 16:03
  I'm right here. So, it this is like what happened with Chase, and I don't want be a fearmonger, but that should frighten everybody. Because that right there it's like what we're seeing is that they're inching forward they're pushing forward this agenda, and they're doing it step by step by step, and it always happens with the big guys first. When they when they kicked Alex Jones off of social media, right off of YouTube, I bet a lot of people, you know, lot of a lot of people said, oh gosh, Alex Jones, he's really he's out there, he's the prominent one, I'm okay. Now look at how many accounts have been canceled.
• 16:42
  So when they start by going after Mercola and canceling his accounts, it's it's gonna start trickling down until it's like now on YouTube, if you're an average everyday person with a small account, if you post something that goes against their guidelines, you're done. That didn't happen ten years ago. It's now part of the entire framework. And so what's it going to look like? And is it going be in five years that if you say the wrong thing, it's like, who cares if Elon Musk isn't going to delete your account for talking about something, right that is deemed unacceptable to talk about the conspiracy theory doesn't matter if free speech is completely there on Twitter.
• 17:25
  If the banking system is going to use that against you and cut off your ability to access your money or to use that banking system. Like, this is a whole other world like to me this is this is like the greatest threat to our freedom.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. A lot of people said, well, this is going to be based on political grounds and it's like this has nothing to do with Democrats and Republicans. How do I know? Because Robert F. Kennedy Jr, a Democrat, was speaking out against vaccines and out against central bank digital currency as of late, saying this is possibly the biggest loss of liberty that we're ever going to have.
• 18:08
  Hey, Democrat. And you know what? He's being just ostracized by the media. Right. It's like, wait a second, he's a Democrat.
• 18:17
  Right. But he's not your modern day Democrat. He's like your grandparents Democrat. Right. Like like his uncle.
• 18:25
  Right? You know, where those Democrats, I would say JFK is going to be more like a mainstream Republican today. Pretty much. So, he's found
• 18:34
  Seth Holehouse: out like a far right conspiracy theorist on the scale.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, at it from a voice of freedom. He doesn't like vaccines. Right? But yet now he gets his voice eliminated, right, on ABC saying you can't speak because he said, wait, I'm running for president.
• 18:55
  It's like, so what? We're we're gonna tell the people what they wanna hear rather than you telling them what you wanna hear as a candidate. You know, evidently, even even the Biden administration is cutting him off from secret service, you know, even running for president. You should get that. I mean, there's so it doesn't matter what political side of the aisle that you're on.
• 19:15
  It all has to do with your ideas. Are you pro clean energy, pro green energy? Do you stand for a small carbon footprint? LGBTQ plus LGBTQ stuff. I mean, religious views.
• 19:32
  I mean, we're seeing Canada right now. See, look what happened to the truckers in Canada. Why did they get shut off from their bank accounts? Because of their freedom of speech and they were boycotting stuff that was going on with their big caravan. Right?
• 19:46
  So so they got cut off. Well, Canada right now is in my view more communist than China. It's like Trudeau is doing horrible stuff to the people. Even a pastor being sentenced to prison for ten years, this is what they're going to face. His son, the pastor's son, was protesting something over a hundred yards away from where the action was.
• 20:11
  They said, Nope, you're too close. Now you're in trouble too. It's like freedom of speech goes the way of the dota bird. And so I saw this article just this morning about it was the president of the oil and gas association in America, very concerned that the Biden administration, because they've said things a couple of times now, are gonna use emergency powers act COVID nineteen style restrictions on the energy industry. Right?
• 20:45
  It's like, what? What can they do? If they claim a climate emergency? What can they do? They can shut off communications.
• 20:52
  They can shut off anybody who's speaking out against carbon footprints and stuff like that. Right. They can shut off your ability to heat or cool your house under a state of emergency, which is what they're calling for potentially. And why would I say that? Because UN Secretary General Gutierrez a couple of days ago said this, he said, the era of global warming is over.
• 21:18
  I was like, sweet, but you know that there's another shoe about to drop. Because he said, we're now in an era of global boiling. It's like, oh, for crying out loud. It's like, stop using such extremist words. We're not boiling.
• 21:31
  Yeah, it's been hot the last few weeks. That doesn't mean So here's where their science is pseudoscience, and it's all a bunch of garbage, right? Because they're using this, it's impacting entire economies, economic ecosystems across the globe. They're using it to change currencies, right? Because if you shut off oil and gas, look at everything that that's going to impact.
• 21:58
  Plastics are made by oil, right? What do they want us to have? So you look at this stuff that's happening, it's like a boiling point in the economy. And so you've got Biden saying crazy things like, we're gonna block the sun because we need to cool the earth down a few degrees. And here's the pseudoscience that's behind it.
• 22:20
  I thought global warming caused the oceans to rise because it melts the polar ice caps. Right? They said if we if we cool down the the earth, well, then it's gonna cause the oceans to rise, and a lot of the coastal cities might be underwater. It's like, wait a second. That's going to happen if you cool down the earth.
• 22:38
  I thought it happened if you raise the, I mean, they don't know. They're just using these fear monger tactics, but this is what it's all about. This is why I went down this rabbit trail is because stopping people from accessing their money is the biggest fear tactic in the world. Just like the whole world is gonna boil up and and all the coastal areas are gonna be underwater. They use fear.
• 23:00
  They use fake science. They use all this stuff to try to control by fear. That's not how people should be controlled. People shouldn't be controlled at all. People should be controlled by their own internal ethics and morality, and what God gives us is freedom to make a choice, right?
• 23:20
  With every choice that we have, whether we have a choice as Christians, for example, to sin or not to sin, to believe in Jesus or not believe in Jesus. Every religion has benefits of doing something the way that you should and consequences from doing the way stuff that you shouldn't, right? Every single religion. But when you're talking about these kinds of things, that should be your moral compass, not fear. Freedom to make choices and have consequences, good or bad, from those choices are what should compel anybody to do anything, not fear of cutting you off from your money.
• 23:55
  But this is the difference between God's economy and man's economy. One is motivated by fear, one is motivated by love. And so we're operating in our world right now in the system that's motivated by fear, and they're causing people to do stupid things, Like literally, line up for blocks to have your retina scanned by the WorldCoin Orb that Sam Altman wants you to have because they're going give you free cryptocurrency. It's like, don't do it. Seriously, don't.
• 24:28
  I'm looking at these pictures and I'm out loud, I'm saying, seriously, don't do it. It's like when you watch a thriller or suspenseful movie and there's always the dumb people that go down the dark hallway and say,
• 24:40
  Seth Holehouse: I'm gonna
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: go in this door. It's like, no, as the viewer, you know there's a monster behind that door. It's like, you fools, everybody always does it. But this is how I feel like they're just like lemmings walking off the cliff. They're saying, oh yeah, I want to get my retina scanned.
• 24:55
  I don't know why, but it sounds like a good idea because it's going to be more convenient, right? It's like, boy, choices for the sake of convenience never have a good result.
• 25:04
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. And that's the thing is that they're using the, you know, the unfortunately, I think a large portion of, say, America, you know, not sure what percentage perhaps, will just follow along. You know, there'll be a day when they come out and they say, Look, you know, the fiat currency system has run its course, and look what's happened with the bank collapses, and, you know, here's why a digital universal bank, you know, or UBI, universal basic income, is is gonna be really good for you, and they're gonna roll that out. I think a lot of people would have say, Oh, okay, great. I mean, look at people on their second and third booster, right?
• 25:44
  So, but this is this is something I think that as you, know, again, come back around to this and looking at, like, looking at what happened to Merkola, Right? And I did a recent interview with Ahman Jabi about the basically, what he's saying is that the social credit system is already here in America. It's just we don't see it in the same way we see it like we do they do on like we do in China. But it's here, the infrastructure is here. And that's what, it's like with Mercola, was his, in a lot of ways, it was his digital presence that caused a ripple effect into the physical world where you can no longer go bank account and pull his money out at that ATM.
• 26:27
  Right, they didn't steal his money, he probably had to move it to somewhere else, but still, there's real world ramifications. And so, I actually I want to bring up, there's another Zero Hedge article I want to read through a couple points on because it really, it really helps drive the point home because you know we've been we've spent a lot of time talking about central bank digital currency, and I still as I said a year ago I believe that CBDCs are the single greatest threat to our freedoms. They're the single greatest threat. So let me go read through a little bit of this article because this really helps put into words what life would be like under a central bank digital currency. So pardon me, published on this on zero hedge.
• 27:10
  So the CBDCs are coming in the elite plan to use these digital currencies to enslave humanity. Not really mincing words with the headline there. Central bank digital currencies are feverishly being developed all over the globe, and this is something that that should deeply alarm all of us. So I'm gonna read this. This next paragraph is really important.
• 27:35
  For a moment, I would like you to imagine a world where the government instantly knows whenever you buy or sell something, no transaction would ever be truly private, not even your most personal or embarrassing ones. In addition, your money would not truly be your own under such a system. Your access to the digital currency system would be a privilege, which could potentially be suspended or revoked with the click of a mouse. All of a sudden, you would not be able to buy or sell anything and you would become an outcast from society. Under no circumstances should any government be given ever begin such power.
• 28:22
  Unfortunately, the central bank digital currencies are coming and they're going to radically change how commerce gets done. So this is a long article that goes in and just details the progress that all the different banks have made, whether it's the Federal Reserve, or The UK, or the EU with the launch of their digital version of the Euro, Brazil, how they're testing their central bank digital currency, it says that CBDC is currently being tested in Brazil, it turns out that it has hidden backdoor features that would actually allow the government to freeze people's funds and adjust their balances at will. Okay, even Russia, with their digital ruble. That was just, you know, signed into law. Right.
• 29:09
  So, this is, this is, this is serious right and then here it says that overall it's being reported that 130 different countries are now interested in potentially developing their own central bank digital currency so out of one hundred and ninety five one hundred and thirty nations are moving towards building CBDCs. And so it concludes, which I think is really important, is saying by let us hope that nothing like this happens anytime soon, but we are truly living in unprecedented times and they're only going to get crazier with each passing year, understatement of the decade. We're going to object to the implementation of central bank digital currencies, the time is now. Hopefully we can get a lot more people in the general population to wake up because the clock is ticking. And so I just I just that that really struck me that article because it's you know CBDC it sounds like some fancy thing, but like looking at this is what it actually looks like.
• 30:15
  It's like you know they told us you owe nothing like that's CBDC is you owe nothing you're given a digital credit by the global centralized system. And as long as you play by their rules, you can still use that Central Bank Digital credit that they give you. What do you think about after hearing me read that?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Well, the enslavement piece is a scary word, but this is exactly what they're doing, right? Because in a digital world where they can cut you off from buying or selling, unless you agree with them. Isn't that really the true concept of slavery? It is. Money is not your own.
• 31:00
  Your life is not your own. You're giving up ownership. And this is what programmable money is all about, according to Doctor. Pippa Malmgren of the World Economic Forum. When she coined this term, I mean, maybe not coined it, but the first time we really heard about it was back in 2020 when she was talking about this.
• 31:23
  It's like, wow, programmable money. The ability to not let you buy or sell unless your digital social profile adds up to what they want, your social credit score. So the whole concept of immutability is so immutable and programmable. So those two concepts. So a blockchain, cryptocurrency like what we're used to, it's immutable.
• 31:50
  I mean, it can't be changed. Non programmable, it can't be changed. Under this new system, the back doors that you just talked about, the ownership can be changed. The amount can be changed. But here's one of the worst things about all of this, it has a time value.
• 32:08
  So you can program a time value to your money. Meaning, let's just take this example. It's like, hey, Seth, you've been working really hard your whole life. You have a hundred thousand dollars sitting in your bank account for retirement, You're saving up for a rainy day, you're saving up to buy a house, you're saving up to do whatever. Well, under this system, they say, well, yeah, it's July.
• 32:30
  Hey Seth, December thirty first of this year, all the money that you have is going to expire worthless. It's a use it or lose it. So it's like, what are you going to do? And they would use this to try to stimulate the economy. It's like, we need everybody to spend right now.
• 32:45
  Let's get us out of these economic doldrums. We're gonna get everybody spending, boom, economy fixed, right? This is their methodology. What happens on January 1? You used all of your money.
• 32:58
  Now you're completely dependent on them for your credit and debit system. They control the purse strings, right? So I think the time factor that they can have with programmable money when it expires is so dangerous because it could make people spend their entire retirement so you're no longer dependent on yourself and savings and hard work. You're now dependent on the government when in their own benevolence, they let you use your money when you want to or when they want to or not. It's not up to you, it's up to them.
• 33:37
  See, they can use these tricks to try to stimulate or slow down the economy, right, by having a timeframe for money. It's a very dangerous concept, which is built in inherently to the programmability of money.
• 33:51
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. And something that is why as we're kind of rounding out here towards the end, it's just some realization, you know, that I had because obviously, we talked a lot about central bank digital currency, we talked a lot about the de dollarization and BRICS and about precious metals and just how all that fits together and it's almost like, you know, when I'm looking to the future that if I thought life was going to continue normal, say for the next ten years, and we're going to be slowly recovering going, you know, back out of the COVID stuff and, you know, everything was back to normal. I would be treating my own assets very differently. Now I'm not saying that like, I'm a Mad Max person and I think that in a year, like I'm putting everything I have into building an underground bunker with ten years of MREs and a hundred thousand rounds of ammo. Right?
• 34:50
  Like, I'm not there. Right? But I am somebody that, like, I believe conservatively that within the next five years, we're going to see significant disruptions to our way of life that will eclipse what we saw with the disruptions that COVID brought about. Not to say that we're going to be in gulags in five years. I think that we're at the end of a system, right?
• 35:14
  We're experiencing the death of an old system, they want to bring in their new system, but I think a lot of us are going to opt out of that and have our own system and it's a whole different discussion. But when I'm looking at like my own assets because I've been reflecting on this recently because we're moving, you know, we're in the process of moving, we're building a house, we're selling a house, and I've had to think about these things. Okay, like what do I how do I manage the assets that are associated with that. And something that I realized because I if I have a little bit of extra money, I always just tend to go towards silver, occasional little bit of gold if I came across something that's interesting, but it's mostly just silver, it's because I'm not looking at it and saying, what can I do with this money that I can make 7% a year or 10% a year over the next five years? And it's like, it's not an investment vehicle, Right?
• 36:07
  Like, don't have any money in the stock markets. I pulled everything out of all that stuff. Because for me, it's like, I want to do everything possible to take the assets that I have, and just preserve them. It's like there's a storm coming, right? There's a storm coming.
• 36:25
  I'm not interested in trying to look and say, well, the stock market's doing pretty well right now. So I keep this one in Apple and keep a little bit over here in this. It's like I'm looking at it and saying, I do I think that sometime over the next five years, there's going to be some level of turmoil. And if so, my own personal belief is like, I'm just trying to batten down the hatches and secure what you know what what assets I do have to make sure that I can get through that and get to the other side of it and still have those assets, because as much as like right now is like maybe the stock market is doing great and you're making 810% a year and you want leave it in there if after five years that gets wiped out or as we saw with the unified ledger it as an asset, it all gets put on to the the BIS unified ledger, and thereby is now controlled as a digital asset the same way that central bank digital currency would be. It's like I'm trying to avoid that in every way possible.
• 37:32
  And so I just wanted to share that because obviously, you know, talk about precious metals and you that's what you do, but I would never recommend anybody do anything that I don't really believe in. And I just I had this experience lately and thinking about it is like it really made me click and made me think, you know what, I feel like I've done the right thing. Like I feel like I've actually made the right decisions with how I've managed these things. I just wanted to share that with you because it just was just this little kind of light bulb that went off for me.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, it's the same light bulb that's going off for a lot of people right now. Are scared. And I want to leave people with, don't be scared. I mean, yeah, just because Sethi and I talk about politics and the economy and how dark it is, it's like we don't make up these rules. We don't make up these policies.
• 38:19
  The people that we voted for did, right? And saying, we're just talking about about a bad policy. But yet, if I were to focus on the storm, I would be very scared. I I simply would because there's no hope. There's no hope in the storm.
• 38:37
  It's too bad. It's too ugly. It's too nasty. The waves are too big. The wind is too strong.
• 38:41
  However, I'm focused on the solution. And in anything in life, when you focus on the solution instead of focus on the storm, that will put a smile on your face because it you know that there's hope. You know that there's an answer. You know that you're not gonna be in this spot forever. Right?
• 38:58
  And we do have a solution. We have a good one. Whether it's whether it's investing into silver right now as a tangible asset that's not part of like this unified ledger, right? It's like real estate's going to be part of this unified ledger because it's not totally private. You have a title on it and you have property taxes.
• 39:20
  Therefore, it's not really private. Something that's totally private, it kind of gets out of that system. But we also have this other hope that's starting to percolate, and that is the rise of the state sovereignty system, right? Where you've got states' rights are coming up and you've got states like Texas and Alaska that want a state chartered central bank backed by gold. Get out of the federal system, get out of FDIC, get out of this FedNow app system.
• 39:47
  And you've got governors like DeSantis in Florida saying we're not gonna accept CBDC. You've got eight other states, Louisiana, Arkansas, Utah, Oklahoma, Wyoming, that are now saying gold is legal tender in our states, meaning you can use it as currency. Right? So I've seen this ground swell of support. So one other thing that you can do outside of reallocate your assets, call your state legislators seriously, because they will answer the phone generally.
• 40:19
  Their offices will try to call your US ones. You're never gonna get through. Right? But call your state ones and say, hey, what Texas and Alaska are doing? We wanna do the same thing.
• 40:28
  Propose legislation for a state chartered bank to get out of this federalist juggernaut and actually bring us freedom. This is why we voted you in. So use your voice. Use your your power of your vote. Use the power of your thoughts to help encourage your state legislators to start doing the right thing.
• 40:51
  Because in all of this globalist bringing everything together into one global union, I'm seeing the opposite start to happen too, and that states wanting states' rights and away from this globalist communist fascist juggernaut, right, and having their own rights for their own people, for their own citizens of those states. This is what I see happening. It's almost like the opposite spirit starting to manifest itself when this government overreach and control starts really trying to dig in deep.
• 41:27
  Seth Holehouse: I think the key is just which boat are you on, right? It's like, you on their boat? Are you on the boat of true sovereignty? Right? Kirk, we've reached the end of our we have an hour set aside.
• 41:45
  We always spend a lot of time chatting in the beginning, especially today we haven't seen each other for some time. If folks do want to get ahold of you, we've got a special link set up. Just goldwithseth.com. You scroll down, there's a really simple little form you fill out if you want to talk to Kirk or someone on his team. Just do a free wealth consultation or the phone number is (720) 605-3900.
• 42:15
  it's as usual, it's great to have you on. I just I appreciate you being here. It's funny because I've taken a couple of weeks off because of the move and I saw multiple posts, multiple comments on telegram other places, people saying like, Where's Kirk Elliott? I missed my Kirk Elliott because we do our weekly interviews. It's like, you know, something's off Yeah, so I thought that was encouraging though.
• 42:43
  So, you know, people like what you're doing. And actually, gotten a lot of feedback of people that actually have called in and worked with you and like, gosh, it was incredible, you know, so thank you for what you're doing. And thank you for all the support you've given me.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for those kind words. I appreciate it. And I'll let the team know because I do have an incredible team of people who love people, and that's what it's all about.
• 43:04
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Well, take care, Kirk.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Thanks. We'll see you.