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Steve Price | 4 October · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price.
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  Speaker 2: Good on you, Thank you Mary much for that. Aeron,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Friday Night. Great to be back after a
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  Speaker 2: break break. I spent three weeks in Greece, and I
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  Speaker 2: must say you'd have no idea there was any problems
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  Speaker 2: in the Middle East, with the streets of Athens just.
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  Speaker 1: Teeming with tourists.
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  Speaker 2: But of course if you live in Australia, in any
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  Speaker 2: of our capital cities, you have the Middle East conflict
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  Speaker 2: shoved in your face on a daily basis, rampant anti Semitism,
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  Speaker 2: Jewish hatred on a level we have never witnessed. Plus
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  Speaker 2: these angry, provocative, almost daily anti Israel protests. More on
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  Speaker 2: that in just a moment, but it is great to
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  Speaker 2: be back. Coming up on the program tonight on the
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  Speaker 2: Middle East War, Israel now fighting on multiple fronts its
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  Speaker 2: retribution against Hamas terrorist attack a year ago in Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: They've got a ground invasion of Lebanon to push Hezballah
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  Speaker 2: back from its border, and are still to be executed
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  Speaker 2: retribution on Iran after this week's missile attack. Michael Schubridge
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  Speaker 2: will unpick all of that for us very shortly. Plus
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  Speaker 2: on these appalling protests, planned around Australia for this weekend
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  Speaker 2: and worse, on Monday, the seventh of October, a deal
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  Speaker 2: of sorts has been struck in New South Wales. You
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  Speaker 2: have to question is it enough? Shadow Police spokesman Paul
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  Speaker 2: tool on what might happen in Sydney on Monday and
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  Speaker 2: importantly how much is it going to cost? And Friday
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  Speaker 2: Night regular Campbell Newman on the first leader's debate in
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  Speaker 2: the Queensland state election it's just three weeks away and
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  Speaker 2: the bizarre blunder by Premier Stephen Miles forgetting the name
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  Speaker 2: of his own candidate while he was in her own seat.
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  Speaker 2: But first tonight on Friday Night. Though Australians have every
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  Speaker 2: right this weekend to ask, I think a question why
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  Speaker 2: do so many people who live here hate the country that.
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  Speaker 1: Is their home?
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  Speaker 2: And we also need to ask the question what's being
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  Speaker 2: taught in our universities around Australia and what's happened to
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  Speaker 2: political leadership in this nation. Starting today and running through
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  Speaker 2: until Monday, thousands of Australians will take to the streets,
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  Speaker 2: supposedly representing various Free Palestine protest groups, topped up with
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  Speaker 2: outfits like the Green Left and Socialist Alliance, and you
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  Speaker 2: can throw in the normal global warming loudmouths who use
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  Speaker 2: these rallies to plug their causes. Now, since last October's
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  Speaker 2: Israel retribution in Gaza, to October's seven terrorist attack, which
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  Speaker 2: I remind you saw twelve hundred Jews, men, women, teenagers
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  Speaker 2: and babies slaughtered on Israeli soil, we've witnessed weekend after
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  Speaker 2: weekend after weekend protesters jamming up city streets arguing for
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  Speaker 2: a free Palestine. Now, pre October seven, these protests were
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  Speaker 2: rare or even didn't exist. So presumably the Green left
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  Speaker 2: activists that are marching now in the majority didn't really
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  Speaker 2: think much about Gaza or the West Bank at all.
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  Speaker 2: And if that's what I even knew where Gaza was.
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  Speaker 2: Now October seven seemed to change all that. I don't
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  Speaker 2: need to revisit what happened on that gruesome day, suffers
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  Speaker 2: to say it was the biggest loss of Jewish life
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  Speaker 2: since the Holocaust. When Israel defended itself, suddenly you had Australians,
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  Speaker 2: many from Middle Eastern backgrounds, on our streets, protesting every weekend,
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  Speaker 2: infamously on the Opera House steps, chanting anti Jewish hate speech.
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  Speaker 2: No arrests there by the way, Then a surge in
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  Speaker 2: anti Israel, anti Jewish Semitism like we have never seen
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  Speaker 2: in this country before. Jewish people I know became fearful
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  Speaker 2: to walk down the street, school security was set at
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  Speaker 2: new levels, and weekend after weekend, a hardcore group of
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  Speaker 2: activists used the Middle East conflict to push their anti
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  Speaker 2: Australian hard left green lunacy down our throats. Now, if
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  Speaker 2: all of this wasn't bad enough, I even witnessed one
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  Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon in Melbourne a child i'd say no older
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  Speaker 2: than ten years old, propped up in the back of
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  Speaker 2: a car, chanting from chanting from the river to the
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  Speaker 2: sea on a megaphone. Now, if all of this in
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  Speaker 2: a nation that welcome many of these people into our
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  Speaker 2: country with open arms, isn't bad enough, we come to
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  Speaker 2: this weekend, or more particularly Monday. Now, on Monday, these
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  Speaker 2: same hardliners can't even let October seven alone. In New
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  Speaker 2: South Wales, they've made some sort of concession. Not a march,
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  Speaker 2: but a vigil, A vigual for dead Jews. You are kidding,
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  Speaker 2: A vigil for the end result of what war is
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  Speaker 2: the deaths of innocent civilians. That's okay, but not on Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing should happen on Monday. Political leadership on this, I
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  Speaker 2: believe has been largely weak need and lily livid. New
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  Speaker 2: South Wales Premier Chris Mins has probably been the strongest,
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  Speaker 2: and I.
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  Speaker 3: Remain of the view that is hugely insensitive at best
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  Speaker 3: to hold a planned vigil or rally on that day,
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  Speaker 3: the seventh of October, and the truth of the matter
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  Speaker 3: is it could inflant tensions in an already stretched and
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  Speaker 3: volatile situation in Sydney, not just Sydney, but right around
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  Speaker 3: the world. Now New South Wales police will be on
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  Speaker 3: site in massive numbers. There will be an overwhelming police
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  Speaker 3: response on both Sunday and Monday.
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  Speaker 2: As for Prime Minister Anthony albanezy, god spare me. He's
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  Speaker 2: been dragged, kicking and screaming to condemn Monday's disgrace, as
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  Speaker 2: has his Foreign Minister Penny wong All because of domestic
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  Speaker 2: political priorities. Well what does that mean exactly? Well, labor
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  Speaker 2: seats in Southwest Sydney, Inner Sydney and the northern suburbs
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  Speaker 2: of Melbourne with large Muslim populations and fears that the
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  Speaker 2: Greens who have been even worse in this space, will
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  Speaker 2: pick up seats. Think about whether your cause is being
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  Speaker 2: advanced or set back.
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  Speaker 4: This, in my mind, should be very much a solemn day.
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  Speaker 2: Does that inspire you? Does that feel like strong leadership?
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  Speaker 2: But I do think so.
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  Speaker 1: Opposition to Peter.
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  Speaker 2: Darton hasn't left anyone wondering where he lies in this fight.
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  Speaker 5: There should be no support for that in our country whatsoever.
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  Speaker 5: People who are out supporting, glorifying leaders of terrorist organizations,
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  Speaker 5: they should be held to account and they should be
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  Speaker 5: condemned for their actions. And I welcome the announcement today
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  Speaker 5: that the Australian Federal Police will work with the State
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  Speaker 5: Police to have a zero tolerance in relation to any
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  Speaker 5: rally that might come up.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have Victorian Premier Jacinta Allen, who of
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  Speaker 2: course is from the hard left as opposed to Chris
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  Speaker 2: Men's from the labor right. Now it's been her normal
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  Speaker 2: flaky self.
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  Speaker 6: In terms of when I protest is peaceful and respectful,
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  Speaker 6: then there is a place for those activities. But let's
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  Speaker 6: be clear, using October seventh as a day to protest
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  Speaker 6: or rally is not respectful.
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  Speaker 2: As I said, what sort of leadership is that, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, that's the same Victorian political leader who sat
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  Speaker 2: in cabinet during COVID and oversaw police action against demonstrators
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  Speaker 2: protesting COVID lockdowns and vaccine mandates. That exactly that happened
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  Speaker 2: exactly three years ago in the same month October, and
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  Speaker 2: it led to scenes back then like this.
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  Speaker 1: Going stuff now and they sting, they're now shooting.
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  Speaker 2: That's a COVID protest. You're not going to see that
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  Speaker 2: at the weekend now. In the lead up to that protest,
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  Speaker 2: I want to remind everybody of this, the Victoria Police
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  Speaker 2: argued for and got permission to shut down rail services
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  Speaker 2: into the CBD of Melbourne for six hours and they
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  Speaker 2: blocked roads into the city. That was over the top,
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  Speaker 2: as was the use of pepper spray horses and rubber bullets.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: But now all we have is a police presence that
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  Speaker 2: last week allowed masked men to carry frame pictures of
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  Speaker 2: a brutal terrorist leader and wave his blah flags.
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  Speaker 1: So far no arrests.
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  Speaker 2: The final straw for me, the Melbourne rally on Monday
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  Speaker 2: will begin next to the Shrine of Remembrance. Now that's
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  Speaker 2: the Somber monument built to honor our war debt and
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  Speaker 2: they've chosen that deliberately. That's deliberate provocation. These people have
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  Speaker 2: no shame and are UnAustralian, at least in.
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales.
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  Speaker 2: They have tried to at least limit what's going to
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  Speaker 2: happen on October seven, but good luck with that. I'm
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  Speaker 2: still not sure exactly they know what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Shadow Police Minister for the New South Wales, Paul Tool
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  Speaker 2: joins us Paul, are you confident and on Monday that
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  Speaker 2: these activists that we've seen in our streets for the
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  Speaker 2: last twelve months are going to do what they promise?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I'm not, Steve, and I'm very concerned because this
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  Speaker 7: has been going on for twelve months. So we talk
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  Speaker 7: about what happened last year on the seventh of October,
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  Speaker 7: where we saw that they were basically celebrating twelve hundred
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  Speaker 7: people being killed overseas by a terrorists, and what we've
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  Speaker 7: seen is week after week protests here in the CBD
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  Speaker 7: of Sydney. Now I'm very concerned that this is only
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  Speaker 7: going to inflame the situation. Over the weekend, We're going
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  Speaker 7: to see people coming out and it's going to be
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  Speaker 7: innocent people in our community that are eventually going to
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  Speaker 7: be caught up in this and are going to be injured.
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  Speaker 8: We need to have a very strong blanket and say
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  Speaker 8: that this has got to stop. This can't go on.
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  Speaker 7: It's un Australian and really, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 7: we've had enough.
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  Speaker 1: You and I've been around a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Did you ever think you'd see in your lifetime a
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  Speaker 2: situation where males wearing full face masks were able to
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  Speaker 2: march down a major's capital city street in Australia holding
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  Speaker 2: a framed photograph of a terrorist butcher.
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  Speaker 7: No, I never thought i'd ever see that, Steve, and
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  Speaker 7: I just can't believe some of the images that I
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  Speaker 7: continue to see happening here in this country. I mean
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  Speaker 7: now where we're commemorating the death of a terrorist overseas,
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  Speaker 7: where we've got people carrying Hezbalah flags. You know, it's
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  Speaker 7: just totally inappropriate and it's non Australian. So we really
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  Speaker 7: need to actually say to these people, if you don't
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  Speaker 7: want to be part of Australia, you don't want to
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  Speaker 7: be part of our country, then maybe you need to
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  Speaker 7: move somewhere else, Because I don't think anybody that is
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  Speaker 7: passionate about this country, people who are strong Australians, want
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  Speaker 7: to see this kind of activity or behavior going on.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 7: This is inciting, you know, hatred, This is actually causing
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  Speaker 7: a culture of division here in our communities, and as leaders,
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  Speaker 7: we've got to stamp it out. We can't just sit
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  Speaker 7: back and say, oh, it's okay, we'll have a peaceful
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  Speaker 7: protest and it's okay, there's another rally that takes place.
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  Speaker 8: At some point in time.
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  Speaker 7: A line has got to be drawn in the sand
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  Speaker 7: and to say that enough is enough.
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  Speaker 8: It can't go on.
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  Speaker 7: These protests have been going on for fifty two weeks
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  Speaker 7: and at the end of the day, that's causing a
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  Speaker 7: huge loss to businesses. It's also causing a huge cost
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  Speaker 7: of the taxpayers of New South Wales and we're actually
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  Speaker 7: seeing these people celebrating terrorists at the end of the
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  Speaker 7: day who should not be here in this country or
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  Speaker 7: should not be allowed to occur.
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  Speaker 1: Help me with this.
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  Speaker 2: We've got federal hate laws which were passed in the
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  Speaker 2: last session of parliament. Clearly they don't work, or the
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  Speaker 2: AFP which has they enforced those laws with help from
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  Speaker 2: state police. So how can you have masked people carrying
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  Speaker 2: a terrorist organization flag. I don't even know how have
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  Speaker 2: masked people walking on the street. But those hate laws
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  Speaker 2: have either got to be stiffened up or used properly,
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  Speaker 2: don't they.
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  Speaker 7: Well, that's absolutely right, I mean, and there are laws
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  Speaker 7: around where people can actually receive fines of up to
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  Speaker 7: around two hundred and twenty thousand.
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  Speaker 8: Dollars or get up to three years of imprisonment.
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  Speaker 7: But what we continually see is people allowed to continue
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  Speaker 7: with this kind of behavior. We may see arrest, but
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  Speaker 7: there are no charges that are actually telling people that
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  Speaker 7: this is the wrong thing to do. So we've got
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  Speaker 7: to get tough here in this state. We're going to
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  Speaker 7: get tough here in this country to tell people that
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  Speaker 7: this is not good enough. The laws are there, but
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  Speaker 7: if they're too weak and people are just getting off
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  Speaker 7: time after time, that it's sending the wrong message to
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  Speaker 7: the wider community that this is not going to be
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  Speaker 7: tolerated here in this country. So we need to make
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  Speaker 7: sure that if we're introducing laws that there are penalties,
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  Speaker 7: and if people are going to continue to break the
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  Speaker 7: laws and they're going to incite hatred or actually anti
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  Speaker 7: semitism here in this country, then they've got to actually
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  Speaker 7: impose those laws on those individuals.
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  Speaker 2: Your shadow police spokesman, what's the cost of this doing
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  Speaker 2: to the police budget? And this is costing what someone
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  Speaker 2: put an estimate of two million dollars just for this
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  Speaker 2: march on Sunday alone, let alone across Saturday, Sunday and Monday.
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  Speaker 2: This is costing taxpayers of fortune.
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  Speaker 7: Steve, I think taxpayers here in this state should be
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  Speaker 7: astonished to actually understand that every protest that's been happening
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  Speaker 7: every weekend, you know, sees it at a cost of
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  Speaker 7: around two hundred and twenty thousand dollars. So we're getting
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  Speaker 7: police that are coming in, they're being paid to do
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  Speaker 7: over time. But this weekend we're talking around one thousand
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  Speaker 7: police officers and that's going to be at a cost
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  Speaker 7: of two million dollars and that's the taxpayers of New
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  Speaker 7: South Wales that would be footing that bill. So here
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  Speaker 7: we are with protests that are continually occurring. Some of
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  Speaker 7: them are you know, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 7: aren't all, but we're drawing police from other commands. We're
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  Speaker 7: actually asking police to come in and do overtime. We've
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  Speaker 7: already got a shortage of police in New South Wales,
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  Speaker 7: We're going to see more police officers being burnt out.
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  Speaker 7: And at the end of the day, you know, we've
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  Speaker 7: got other events that take place. I mean, here we
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  Speaker 7: are with the NRL Grand Final on Sunday. That's a
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  Speaker 7: user pay system, so we're actually seeing our police being
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  Speaker 7: paid for to actually go and be a part of
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  Speaker 7: that event. We've got a music festival at Centennial Park.
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  Speaker 7: Police are paid to be their presence. I know that
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  Speaker 7: we've got the supercars in bathist in a fortnight time
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  Speaker 7: as well, and you know, the event organizers pay for
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  Speaker 7: the police.
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  Speaker 8: But when we see these protesters, they.
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  Speaker 7: Continually use resources of our police, cost the taxpayers, as
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  Speaker 7: I said, two million dollars this weekend alone.
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  Speaker 8: And yet there's no user pay.
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  Speaker 7: We need to start hitting them in the bottom pocket,
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  Speaker 7: make them pay for their events, and that'll actually end
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  Speaker 7: up seeing them whether they're serious or not, whether they
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  Speaker 7: want to take the risks and continue to actually see
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  Speaker 7: these events take place.
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  Speaker 8: It's inexcusable.
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  Speaker 1: Well make them.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and if I make the point, Steve, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I can't believe and I'm absolutely horrified to think that
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  Speaker 7: the seventh of October you know, is actually even going
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  Speaker 7: to go ahead, because I mean it's distasteful, it's inappropriate,
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  Speaker 7: it's file and it's disgusting and we should not be seeing,
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  Speaker 7: you know, any of these protests or rallies taking place
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  Speaker 7: here in this country after what we saw twelve months ago.
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  Speaker 2: Great stuff, Paul, it was a pleasure to catch up
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  Speaker 2: with you, my friend, Paul tool there now. Meanwhile, all
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  Speaker 2: eyes are now on the Middle East. As we know,
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  Speaker 2: tensions are boiling over. We've got the region on the
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  Speaker 2: brink of an all out war. Israel Is targeting a
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  Speaker 2: Hesbler senior official, launching air strikes today in Beirute, hitting
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  Speaker 2: the terrorist organization's intelligence headquarters. We even saw explosions near
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  Speaker 2: the Beayroot Airport. Let's find out exactly where this is
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  Speaker 2: now going to go. Strategic Analysis Australia director Michael Schubridge
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  Speaker 2: joins us, Michael, where do you see this going? I
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  Speaker 2: know it's a really hard, open ended question, but if
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  Speaker 2: you had to suggest where we might be in a
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  Speaker 2: week's time, what would you say?
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  Speaker 4: Well, Steve, you're right, but I think looking at what
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  Speaker 4: the Israelis have started to do in Lebanon, they're going
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  Speaker 4: to keep down that path, they've got the has Boler
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  Speaker 4: leadership dislocated, a lot of them killed, and they've got
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  Speaker 4: Hasbola on the back foot there they're destroying weapon stockpiles,
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  Speaker 4: has Boller tunnels in southern Lebanon across the border with Israel,
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  Speaker 4: and they're killing has Boller fighters. So I think we'll
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  Speaker 4: see the ground operation by the Israeli military increase, but
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  Speaker 4: the tempo of airstrikes around Beirut, where the Hasbola leadership
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  Speaker 4: still is, including more bunker busters like we saw today,
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  Speaker 4: and of all stockpiles and weapons movements. So that's Lebanon.
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  Speaker 4: The bigger issue for me is what the Israelis decide
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  Speaker 4: to do about Iran. And I don't think we're going
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  Speaker 4: to see one or two precision missiles. I think we're
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  Speaker 4: going to see a wider number of attacks against Iranian
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  Speaker 4: government and military facilities.
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  Speaker 2: Do you get a sense, Michael, that Joe Biden and
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  Speaker 2: the Americans are trying to restrain benyaminettn Ya? Who in
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  Speaker 2: the Israelis are they saying, look, you know, let's just
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  Speaker 2: cool this down a little bit. And clearly Netanya, who's
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  Speaker 2: not going to listen to that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this has been the story For about a year now,
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  Speaker 4: we've had leaders in Europe and America and certainly Australia
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  Speaker 4: sounding increasingly like they're talking into the wind. They don't
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  Speaker 4: seem to have really grasped the deep insecurity that the
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  Speaker 4: Hamas attacks almost a year ago created in Israel and
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  Speaker 4: the fundamental need the Israeli government has had to re
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  Speaker 4: establish security. And I think Israel is demonstrating to Iran
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  Speaker 4: and its terrorist proxies that they are outmatched, and that's
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  Speaker 4: what Israel is intending to do here.
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  Speaker 2: What might the targets be on the ground in Iran?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we know they've got a nuclear weapons
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  Speaker 2: project that is not complete.
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  Speaker 1: But might theay As.
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  Speaker 2: Some have suggested Michael target their oil, which obviously is
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  Speaker 2: their income, that's where they make their money from.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they could do that, and that would probably be
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  Speaker 4: very effective because those big oil facilities are extremely vulnerable
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  Speaker 4: and the Iranians have very little air defense unlike Israel.
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  Speaker 4: But I think the Israelis are going to be demonstrating
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  Speaker 4: to the Iranians that the Iranian military is vulnerable and ineffective.
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  Speaker 4: So I would think Iranian aircraft, Iranian missile launchers, Iranian
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  Speaker 4: missile storage systems and Republican Guard hierarchy, they to me,
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  Speaker 4: would be the priority targets.
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  Speaker 2: Just finally, would Israel have gained this scenario that they
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  Speaker 2: would have to be fighting on so many different fronts?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, And in fact, if you look at it the
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  Speaker 4: way they have done it that close in enemy Hamas
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: that committed those atrocious murders, rapes and kidnappings across the
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: southern border of Israel, they have been already subject to
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: pretty devastating Israeli power has bolla now has been drastically disempowered.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: It's still got significant fighting capacity on the ground, It's
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: still got missiles and rockets stored, but about half of
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: its inventory has gone, and its ability to command and
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: control has been destroyed. And Iran has been shown to
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: be much weaker than the Iranian regime probably thought it was.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: So really Israel has the upper hand now, even though
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: it's fighting multiple Iranian backed enemies.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Michael Law was good to catch up, thank you very much.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Now coming up after the break all the highs and
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: lows from that Queensland Leader's debate.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: It got a bit firey, didn't it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Friday Regular Campbell Newman right in the middle of all
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: that he'll tell us who he thinks the winner was.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And I think you'll be surprised FLUS taxpayers footing the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: bill for an environmental talk fest that no one's turned
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: up to. Turn our attention now to Queensland politics. Now,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: as we know, the election campaign now only has three
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: weeks to run. Voters then head off to the Polesy.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Certainly the LMP is still raging favorites, but last night
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the two leaders went head to head in what some
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: people have described as a fiery debate. Now David have
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: fully made some pretty bold claims last night, including promising
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: to resign if the number of crime victims did not
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: decrease year on year under his leadership.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Have a listen, no rerigle room. By what date will
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: we see that?
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: Will you make that decision?
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: Well, you'll have an election within four years, it's set.
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: And if there aren't fewer victims, so you don't think
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: I'll be in a very good position.
• 21:22
  Speaker 10: Tim, So you won't run at the election.
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: If there aren't fewer victims, you won't. You won't be
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: seeing me, so you'll stand out.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not sure it's all that's smart to back
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: yourself into that sort of corner.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: The premiere Stephen milesy accused Chris of Fully of making
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: things up during a heated exchange over the so called
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: patient tax.
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: Listen, listen, you're going to get rid of Labour's patient
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: tax now if you speak to.
• 21:50
  Speaker 11: The GMCs, there is no such thing. David.
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: Well, it comes after the election, which is what is
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: so sneak.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: David's just making things up. Pretty entertaining. But who won?
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Who better to us than our Friday regular former Queensland
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Premier Campbell Newman. I haven't seen him for about three weeks.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Campbell. What did you make of that debate?
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: Well, I've come in for a bit of flak because
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: I personally feel that Miles did better than expected and
• 22:23
  Speaker 12: I don't think the way that CHRISP. Fooley projected on
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: the night worked for him. So I put it that
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: Miles one narrowly. It's one of these funny things, Steve.
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: It's like the famous sort of nineteen sixty debate in
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: the US presidential election between Nixon and Kennedy. Those who
• 22:43
  Speaker 12: listened on the radio thought that Nixon had won. Those
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: who saw the TV broadcast said Kennedy had won. Body
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: language and the way that people project is really important
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: in these debates. And I just thought, Miles, you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: he spoke to the audience, in other words, down the camera,
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: whereas David was debating, literally debating him, and he didn't
• 23:06
  Speaker 12: have to convince him. He's got to convince the folks
• 23:08
  Speaker 12: at home. So it's small things that I believe gave
• 23:11
  Speaker 12: him the edge. Christophally is making great political points. He
• 23:15
  Speaker 12: was quite dogged about those things. And yes, there is
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: a for what it's worth, there is a looming increase
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: in payroll tax that's going to hit gper clinics if
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: they don't restructure their affairs.
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: So that's what David was referring to.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, similar thing happened in Victoria.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: What did you make of that political promise to resign
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: if the crime figures don't come down during his first term.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, we all hope crime figures come down,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: but it might come back to haunt you mightn't it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 11: Well, it certainly might.
• 23:54
  Speaker 12: And I'm split down the middle when I see something
• 23:57
  Speaker 12: like that, because there's been moment it's at the very
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: beginning of my political career where where famously or infamously
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: I made some commitments like a commitment like that to
• 24:08
  Speaker 12: do with the council. But it's like this, you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: one half of me says, don't do it, you know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: say something or say you won't make that commitment, but
• 24:18
  Speaker 12: what you will do is X y Z. But let's
• 24:21
  Speaker 12: hang on. Let's hang on and look at it from
• 24:22
  Speaker 12: a different perspective. Isn't it refreshing that someone is prepared
• 24:26
  Speaker 12: to put it all on the line. I mean, he's
• 24:28
  Speaker 12: got to be held to that. It's a pretty stark
• 24:32
  Speaker 12: kpi and he can be assessed on it. So really, Steve,
• 24:36
  Speaker 12: I put to you, perhaps we should all be applauding
• 24:38
  Speaker 12: and wondering why other politicians won't put the proverbial on
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: the line.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably a pretty good point. Did your promise work?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Did it happen?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 24:51
  Speaker 12: Mine was to do with inflation and the way that
• 24:54
  Speaker 12: rates went up in the Brisbane City Council, and average
• 24:57
  Speaker 12: rates did go up in line with inflation. I believe
• 25:00
  Speaker 12: I kept my promise, but I can tell you now
• 25:02
  Speaker 12: my opponents flogged me forever saying well, hang on, this
• 25:05
  Speaker 12: house went up more than inflation, and that suburb went
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: up more than inflation, So you break your promise. And
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: of course property values bounce around all over the shop,
• 25:13
  Speaker 12: so you know.
• 25:15
  Speaker 11: These things are very problematic.
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: I think perhaps David Christoph Foley's commitments very very clear cut.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: As you know better than everybody, the last three weeks
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: are absolutely crucial, and you can make big mistakes in
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the last three weeks. I mean, I guess interestingly, Christoph
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Foley's got to remain disciplined and not think he's already
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: won this thing, and Miles has not got to give
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: the impression that well, I know I've lost and so
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give up.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I mean that's not easy for either of them, is it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 11: No, it's not.
• 25:49
  Speaker 12: But I'd say this that Christoph Fawley will be disciplined
• 25:53
  Speaker 12: and will maintain that It's been quite interesting to see
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: how he has operated and just talking about the debate,
• 26:01
  Speaker 12: I mean, it doesn't change anything.
• 26:04
  Speaker 11: Let's be very very clear about that.
• 26:06
  Speaker 12: There were people in the ln P last night who
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: were getting very upset because Newman had sort of said
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: that Miles had beaten Christa Fawley. But they need to
• 26:16
  Speaker 12: sort of calm down. You know, Chris of Fawley is
• 26:18
  Speaker 12: on track to win. I for example, back in twenty
• 26:22
  Speaker 12: twelve when I debated down a bly everyone said Newman lost. Well,
• 26:27
  Speaker 12: I didn't change the outcome. I don't think. I don't
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: think you'll change the outcome here. No one made a
• 26:31
  Speaker 12: big mistake last night. I mean that's an important thing.
• 26:34
  Speaker 12: I mean if someone had blown themselves to Smith Runs,
• 26:37
  Speaker 12: well that's a different, different thing.
• 26:39
  Speaker 11: But that didn't happen. So look, you know, the discipline
• 26:41
  Speaker 11: will be there, and I think.
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: Labor will will mount their neededitive will increasingly mount their
• 26:48
  Speaker 12: negative personal attacks on David and trial sorts of sort
• 26:52
  Speaker 12: of desperate tactics. But I don't think it's going to
• 26:55
  Speaker 12: change things at this stage.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: You and I've seen some pretty big political blunders in
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: our time. I want to get your thoughts on what
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: happened yesterday. Stephen Miles caught out incredibly awkward moment out campaigning.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Have a look at this grab here today.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Susan. Yeah, of course it's Susan. I was with it
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the other nights, Susan who he doesn't even know her name.
• 27:34
  Speaker 12: Well, sorry, I'm sorry, Steve, I may shock you, but
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: I sort of felt for him there these things happened.
• 27:43
  Speaker 12: Maybe it was a senior's moment. I'm sure he knew,
• 27:46
  Speaker 12: but then he just at that particular moment in time,
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: the name, the name escaped me. And I think all
• 27:53
  Speaker 12: of us in politics at that level have been there.
• 27:56
  Speaker 12: We've all had a moment like that where you're sort
• 27:58
  Speaker 12: of you're sort of looking into the orning chasm and thinking,
• 28:01
  Speaker 12: I don't have that who is that person or what
• 28:05
  Speaker 12: was the name of that place.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I've been away three weeks, so I've got a fear
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that you're turning, that you're starting to turn into a
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: labor operative. I never thought i'd see this. Clearly, you're
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: part of a double act with Anastasia Palachet.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Have a look at this, the two.
• 28:24
  Speaker 13: People who know Queensland politics better than anyone, Anastasia Palachet.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: We're here to break it all down without the.
• 28:33
  Speaker 12: Clinical stent, with some healthy debates for old time sake
• 28:37
  Speaker 12: and Campbell new men here on Sky News Australia Queenslands.
• 28:41
  Speaker 12: Can they're getting straight talk that they.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Can trust what's going on there?
• 28:48
  Speaker 12: Well, I don't know, mate, we better ask our bosses
• 28:51
  Speaker 12: here on the network, the Sky US Australia Network. All
• 28:54
  Speaker 12: I can say is, I don't know that it's going
• 28:57
  Speaker 12: to be as harmonious as I may would sort of
• 29:00
  Speaker 12: imply it could get fairly well, fairly tense. I think
• 29:05
  Speaker 12: on a few moments as the night progresses, we shall see.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I just wonder whether an a stage is probably going
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: to take some joy sitting there watching the person who
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: took over from who lose the lose government.
• 29:20
  Speaker 12: Well look, you know, I well, if that's the way
• 29:24
  Speaker 12: the night goes, I mean, I think one of the
• 29:26
  Speaker 12: big things is that I'll be pointing out as we
• 29:28
  Speaker 12: hang on you, Yes, what a great exit you you
• 29:32
  Speaker 12: left it. You sort of burnt half the building down
• 29:34
  Speaker 12: and then hand it over to Stephen with a garden
• 29:38
  Speaker 12: spring close to try and put the fire out.
• 29:42
  Speaker 11: I don't know that.
• 29:43
  Speaker 12: I don't know that that'll go down too well, but
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: it's going to have to have to be put on
• 29:47
  Speaker 12: the table, isn't it.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: It's going to make for great television. Cambell Newman as
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: usual on a Friday. Thanks, I'll talk to you next week.
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: Thanks Steve.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I don't wait to watch that Sky News cover of
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: election Night. Now still to come on Friday nights. Labour's
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Nature Positive Summit it's been slammed as a global embarrassment.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Will tell you why. Next last we'k got.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: The Friday panel. He'll join us to discuss if the
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: NRL Grand Final should be moved to Melbourne as if
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: all that coming up. Welcome back. Well, some things don't change.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Even though I've been away for three weeks. It seems
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Labor still doesn't believe that we're in the middle of
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: a cost a living crisis. How else can you explain
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: five million dollars of your taxpayer's money being spent for
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Australia to host something called quote a Global Nature Positive summit.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: This will take place next week now. The last time
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: we heard from Tanya Plibasekt, the Environment Minister, she was
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: canceling a billion dollar gold mine. Well she announced this
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Sydney event and when she did it, she said, oh,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: this is going to attract business, environment group, scientists. You're
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: going to have government ministers from right around the world.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I was not looking quite like that to be the case,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: quite honestly. For more, we're joined by Shadow Environment Minister
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: John Dunham. Good to see you again. Is Sydney hotels
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: all booked out? No room for anybody with this summit
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in Sydney this weekend?
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean no one important anyway, Stephen, and the
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: reality is sadly that in terms of per counterparts, ministers
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: from other countries, they're all combing their noses at this
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: minister who thinks this summit's going to do something good
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: for the environment. It's going to be chop full of
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: mid level bureaucrats from other countries. I don't know how
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: many koalas are going to be saved, or how many
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: square kilometers of the Great Barrier Reef will be better
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: off as a result of this very expensive talk fast,
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: but it is an embarrassment. Is just another demonstration, Steve,
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: of how this government has the wrong priorities and he's
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: totally out of touch with your average Australia.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Were told too foreign dignitaries only listed to speak is
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: on the program. Explain to me when you heard that
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: this was coming, this event, what did you understand it
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to be and what is it supposed to achieve?
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean, I'm a little skeptical about these international gatherings, frankly,
• 32:15
  Speaker 10: particularly when it's supposed to be a forum for us
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: to be able to talk about what we're doing in
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: our country and sort of moderate with others around what
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: the best approach to managing the environment is My firm
• 32:27
  Speaker 10: view is Australians and the Australian government should know best
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: what is in our interests as a country, rather than
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: letting others and including these big international four tell us
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: what to do. So it really will just be a
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: bunch of people from overseas jetting in in carbon emitting
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: jets to stay in our hotels and have a lovely
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: three or four days in Sydney, costing the taxpayers around
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: five million bucks or thereabouts. But I don't think we're
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: going to see anything anything It all come out of
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: it of any value the environment or indeed for the
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: business community who need some certainly when it comes to
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: policies in this area.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: So it just seems again like you know, the old
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: environmental green energy gravy train riding into Sydney for a
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: couple of days.
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: That's precisely what it is. And I'll tell you what,
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: there's a few people in Cambell that have been doing
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: all right out of this too. Twenty four people in
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: the bureaucracy have been working on this particular event for
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: two years now. Now, let's say on average, and I
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: think I'm being conservative here, each of them paid one
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: hundred thousand dollars a year. I reckon it's a hint
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: more than that, but they've been working on this alone
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: for two years twenty four people. Now, I don't know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: twenty four times one hundred thousand, that's two point four
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: million per annum. I don't know whether that's part of
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: the five million or on top of but you say
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: gravy train. It is obscene, and this government seems to
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: think it's okay to spend other people's money like it's
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: going out of fashion. Well, the problem is we're running
• 33:56
  Speaker 10: out of it, you said it before, and a cost
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: of living crisis. People are struggling to pay their bills.
• 34:00
  Speaker 10: Yet this government seems to think it's okay to pour
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: money out the window, handover fist and just kept doing
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: it and get nothing in return.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I just spent a couple of weeks driving through mainland Greece,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: and I was just staggered about how the beautiful vistas
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: of Greece on top of every mountain range there wind turbines,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: and I would suggest to you that maybe ninety percent
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: of the time none of them were turning because there
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: was no wind at that time.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: In Greece. It was a bit different out on the islands.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: But I always John, I then get on the phone
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: and try and work out, Okay, what's generating electricity in
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: the country I'm in, and surprise, surprise, I find that
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Greece is still very much reliant on coal fired power.
• 34:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, as you say, surprise surprise, I mean, look, this
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: experiment has been going on for too long and at
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: too great a cost, and this blind ideology, ideological approach
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: being taken by the government here, frankly, is not going
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: to end at all. I mean, those wind turbines, yeah,
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: they'll turn sometimes and they'll generate some green energy, but
• 35:06
  Speaker 10: then we're forgetting about the embedded carbon in the manufacture
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: process and construction process for these wind turbines, the huge
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: environmental destruction associated with getting transmission networks to these often
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: far flung wind generation assets. The whole thing is just bunkom.
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: And the whole point around having dispatchable based load power
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: is being able to flick a switch and having power
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: when we need it to run our hospitals, to run
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: our cool stores, to keep food provisions there for us
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: as a society. But instead this green ideology is driving
• 35:43
  Speaker 10: us backward in time into an unreliable energy gridden will
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: all pay the price?
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: John Owa, Oh make Chris Bowen said, oh, well, you
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: know we're going to have a full mix of energy sources,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: including green hydrogen. Well we read this week, of course
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: that Origin Energy they out of their plans to develop
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: green hydrogen too hard. Twiggy Forrest, who loves to come
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: to the East Coast of Australia and brag about how
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: he's going to make green energy out of green hydrogen.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: He also has said he doesn't think it's going to work.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Hunter Valley Hydrogen Hub already had taxpayers money poured into it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: They've canceled the project due to quote pace and timing
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: of the development. That sounds like you know, gobbledygoog speech
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: speech to me. It was always a dream. We were
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: never going to get to this point in time for
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: it to work for us.
• 36:32
  Speaker 10: No, we weren't, Steve, And it was always on the
• 36:34
  Speaker 10: never never. Every time I met with a stakeholder or
• 36:38
  Speaker 10: an expert on this particular issue of green hydrogen, I'd
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: ask those questions, what are we looking at? What sort
• 36:45
  Speaker 10: of a timeframe? And no one could ever put a
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: firm time frame on it. It was relying on so
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: many other inputs and he just kept getting pushed out
• 36:53
  Speaker 10: further and further and further in terms of time.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Now it was.
• 36:57
  Speaker 10: Never going to, as he said, the realistic solution for
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: energy provision, and that's born out by the private companies
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: who when taxpayers subsidies are running out, pull the pin.
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: You know, it's not part of the future mix. So
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: this is another wake up call for this labor government,
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: for Chris Bowenen Anthony Albernezi. Get back to basics, go
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: back to the energy generation sources that in Australia we
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: can rely on that we know we have access to.
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: Stop following your blind ideology and making us pay the bill.
• 37:28
  Speaker 10: It's not fair. No one wants this, and do the
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: right thing by Australian household too are struggling.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of fair, just finally, John.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, the thing that really annoys me about this
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: is the government dangles this idea in regional communities that oh, well,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: this is going to be your new green jobs. You know,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: you might not be able to work in a mine anymore,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: or you might not be able to work in a
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: col fired power station, but we're going to provide these
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: brand new green jobs.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: That's just cruel to people. I mean, people are planning
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: their lives into the future thinking, oh.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: That's going to be great. I don't know, then suddenly
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: they're told no, you're out of a job.
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and honestly, I mean this notion that we could
• 38:08
  Speaker 10: just transfer people's skill sets from say, working in the
• 38:12
  Speaker 10: coal mining sector or some other emissions intensive sector into
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: green energy for an industry that, as you've just seen,
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: will never eventuate. Here is a cruel hope. So I've
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: seen it here in Tasmania. The Greens used to parade
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: about saying that when we shut down the forestry industry,
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: we'll be able to get all of those forestry workers
• 38:31
  Speaker 10: to work in the tourism sector, pouring lattes and glasses
• 38:35
  Speaker 10: of wine. I mean, it's just fanciful that you can
• 38:38
  Speaker 10: just transfer one group of people who proudly, honestly worked
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: hard to do what they can to raise their family
• 38:43
  Speaker 10: and pay the bills, and just push them into another sector,
• 38:47
  Speaker 10: particularly when you know industries like green hydrogen just will
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: never eventuate. So you're right, it's unfair on so many levels.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: John Danimol is a pleasure to catch up. Thank you
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: very much. Thanks Steve, we'll coming up after the break.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: We're going to join a panel will join us.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: The I ordering number of potholes that crews now we're
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: told have to fill a day in Victoria. You won't
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: believe the number. Plus Should the MCG really be the
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: next venue to host the NRL Grand Final in twenty
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: twenty five? I don't think so. The panel's up next.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Price with you. Great to be
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: back after a couple of weeks away. Now joining me
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: is Sky News contributors Joe hilde Brand and Gary Hargrave.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Welcome to you both.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I think we're looking this weekend at something that's going
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: to be very difficult for everybody to deal with, but
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: particularly for if you are Jewish. The situation in Sydney
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: slightly different to the situation in Victoria, So Joe, let's
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: start with you and deal with what's going to happen
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: in New South Wales. There will be a protest march
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: on Sunday, but the roots has been check change, does
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I understand it? And then on Monday the organizers are
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: promising that it'll be a vigil, not a march. Can
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: we trust these people and do you think they'll stick
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to that promise.
• 40:13
  Speaker 14: No, I don't think we can, because I don't think
• 40:15
  Speaker 14: anyone trustworthy or anyone with a sense of decency would
• 40:18
  Speaker 14: have proposed to have a march on the anniversary of
• 40:21
  Speaker 14: the October seven attacks in the first place. I think
• 40:25
  Speaker 14: that was an obviously provocative decision. It was an attempt
• 40:29
  Speaker 14: to hijack that tragedy and try to use that to
• 40:34
  Speaker 14: focus on the plight of the Palestinians. The police were
• 40:38
  Speaker 14: so concerned about what a tinderbox this would be. Sydney
• 40:42
  Speaker 14: is of course home to the largest I think Muslim
• 40:45
  Speaker 14: population in Australia and possibly be up there with Melbourne,
• 40:48
  Speaker 14: with the largest Jewish population, and if there was to
• 40:53
  Speaker 14: be that kind of confrontation, both physically because the original
• 40:58
  Speaker 14: march route on the sun would have been right near
• 41:01
  Speaker 14: the Grand Synagogue, the Great Synagogue in Sydney, or in
• 41:06
  Speaker 14: terms of time, as in actually taking place on October
• 41:09
  Speaker 14: the seven. Now you know what's the difference between a
• 41:11
  Speaker 14: protest and a vigil, Well you could argue about six letters.
• 41:15
  Speaker 14: So you know, I think it's incredibly provocative, incredibly hurtful.
• 41:21
  Speaker 14: I spoke in my podcast this week to two people
• 41:25
  Speaker 14: in Israel who had just been suffering the bombardment of Iran.
• 41:28
  Speaker 14: One was an Arab Palestinian and one was a Jewish Israeli,
• 41:32
  Speaker 14: and those two had managed to join forces to try
• 41:35
  Speaker 14: to argue a way forward for a two state solution.
• 41:38
  Speaker 14: And you kind of think if an Arab Palestinian and
• 41:41
  Speaker 14: a Jewish Israeli can find common ground while under fire
• 41:45
  Speaker 14: in Israel, the idea that a bunch of protesters in
• 41:49
  Speaker 14: Australia couldn't even do the most baseline decent thing to
• 41:53
  Speaker 14: avoid a protest in October seventh is just an abomination.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I'll come to you in a set myself, Joe. When
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about what might happen on Monday. Monday
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: is a public holiday, isn't it in New South Wales?
• 42:07
  Speaker 14: In Sydney, Yeah, that's right because of the Grand Final.
• 42:11
  Speaker 14: So it's a little bit different to the way we
• 42:12
  Speaker 14: do things in my old hometown, steven Yours. But yeah,
• 42:16
  Speaker 14: so Monday is a public holiday. But again, there was
• 42:18
  Speaker 14: no need, is no need for this protest to take place.
• 42:21
  Speaker 14: They've been protests every weekend. They said they wanted to
• 42:24
  Speaker 14: keep doing that. Well, that explains Sunday, it doesn't explain Monday.
• 42:27
  Speaker 14: And again The fact there are one thousand police going
• 42:30
  Speaker 14: to be on duty just to keep the peace and
• 42:32
  Speaker 14: protect all those involved tells you how worried they are.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It had a cost you two million dollars. Gary.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: In Melbourne, it's even worse so the organizers down here.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, for a start, Victoria does not have a
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: permit system for protests. The Victorian Premier to Cinda Allen said,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: we don't need that. People can, you know, protest. It's
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the right to march and they can do what they want.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: A typical hard left view from Jacinda Allen. But what
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: these people have organized this march in Melbourne on Monday.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Where do you think they're going to start this march?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Gary.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: They're going to start it at the Shrine of Remembrance
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: in Saint Kilda Road, the shrine that is built in
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: the memory of dead Australian soldiers. I mean, can that
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: get any worse? Then they're going to the steps of
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Parliament House and they're going to raise the Palestinian flag
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: at the moment that the Hamas terrorists went into Israel.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable.
• 43:29
  Speaker 13: Look and Steve, it's really important that this is not
• 43:33
  Speaker 13: a pro Palestinian versus non Palestinian, pro Muslim versus non Muslim.
• 43:38
  Speaker 13: This is people who are giving comfort to terrorists and
• 43:43
  Speaker 13: terrorist supporters. These people are backing terrorists who slaughtered people
• 43:50
  Speaker 13: a year ago on the seventh of October. You know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 13: it would be like having a vigil, protest, whatever you
• 43:57
  Speaker 13: want to call it for Jamal Islamia on the twelfth
• 44:01
  Speaker 13: of October twenty twenty what was it twenty oh two
• 44:05
  Speaker 13: when the barley bombings happen. I mean, it is the
• 44:08
  Speaker 13: same kind of repugnance. And I think it's important that
• 44:12
  Speaker 13: Muslims call this out, that Palestinians call this out, because
• 44:15
  Speaker 13: they're appropriating their ongoing issue. And Joe's outlined eloquently that
• 44:21
  Speaker 13: there can be negotiation. But these are mass people make
• 44:24
  Speaker 13: They sought to try and kill off the outbreak of
• 44:26
  Speaker 13: peace that was.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Happening a year ago.
• 44:29
  Speaker 13: They wanted to destroy the peace process of the Arab
• 44:32
  Speaker 13: States working with Israel to find a way forward on
• 44:35
  Speaker 13: the Palestinian and indeed Gaza question. And you know, these
• 44:39
  Speaker 13: people don't care, They don't care about our country. And
• 44:41
  Speaker 13: if there's any foreign nationals caught up in any of this,
• 44:45
  Speaker 13: round them up, cancel their visas chuck them out because frankly.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: They're hurting all of us.
• 44:50
  Speaker 13: It's it is hurtful, it's horrible, it's hateful, and they
• 44:54
  Speaker 13: are supporting terrorists. They're not supporting the cause of Palestine,
• 44:59
  Speaker 13: or they're just simply not they're terrorist supporters.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's hope we start seeing some arrests now.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: There's no lighting what's going to happen on Monday at all.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: It's just a very serious issue and we condemn it completely.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: But Joe, I know you always like to see a
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: laugh in something. So remember that protest in Melbourne last month,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: which was that big defense expo that was in jeff
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: shed down in Melbourne and there was that violent, violent
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: protest happened out the front. Have a look at have
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: a look at this where the police horses are Now
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: these people, what's that woman doing? She's patting the horse
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: or is she trying to slap the horse's face? I mean,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to go to war with her, would
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: What?
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Was it? A bloke? I can't work it out, but
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I mean it's.
• 45:50
  Speaker 14: All these confusing But this is this is this is
• 45:54
  Speaker 14: the thing, isn't it. I mean, there is no these
• 45:56
  Speaker 14: are not and and Gary's absolutely right, this does absolutely
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: nothing to advance the Palestinian cause.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure that I mean.
• 46:06
  Speaker 14: Muslim faith leaders have been leading talks with other with
• 46:10
  Speaker 14: other faith leaders in mass sort of interfaith dialogue and
• 46:13
  Speaker 14: try and bring the temperature down in our community. These
• 46:17
  Speaker 14: I dare say, in most cases are not you know,
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: every day Muslim Australians. These are snot nosed student socialists
• 46:26
  Speaker 14: who have probably come from some of the most privileged
• 46:28
  Speaker 14: backgrounds at all and go to our most privileged universities.
• 46:31
  Speaker 14: That these are people who are addicted to protests. They
• 46:34
  Speaker 14: believe in protests for protest's sake. I mean the idea
• 46:36
  Speaker 14: that this is going to change a single mind. And
• 46:39
  Speaker 14: again they're the same people who thought that the way
• 46:41
  Speaker 14: to get peace in the Middle East was to slap
• 46:43
  Speaker 14: a police.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Horce Garry Strepier.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Outrage built on please because there's some stupid suggestion that
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: the NRL Grand Final obviously being played in Sydney this weekend,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: someone's trying to suggest. I think it's Peter Land, He's
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: trying to talk up the price that it might be
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: held in Melbourne. It's the MCG next year and the
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Victorian government might bid for it. I mean, can I
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: just make the point quite clearly? The MCG is one
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: of the worst places in the world to watch rugby
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: league because if you're the back of the stand you
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: can't even see the game.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: It's not built for it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 13: It's built for cricket and AFL and it wasn't a
• 47:22
  Speaker 13: great to see the Lions win last Saturday. I've got
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: my move on because I'm backing Melbourne Storm because I
• 47:27
  Speaker 13: kind of think they're they're kind of the fifth Queensland
• 47:31
  Speaker 13: team the Storm, so goes Storm. But look, obviously it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 13: a national competition week. Queenslanders want to see more of
• 47:39
  Speaker 13: those sorts of national moments. We have this amazing round
• 47:43
  Speaker 13: each year where all the teams come to Queensland in
• 47:46
  Speaker 13: the showcase in Suncourt, which is built for rugby league.
• 47:49
  Speaker 13: It's built for rugby, unit it's built for soccer. So
• 47:52
  Speaker 13: that's a great stadium, nowhere near as big seating as
• 47:55
  Speaker 13: the MCG. But look, if they're going to have it
• 47:58
  Speaker 13: in Melbourne, I think Amy Parker be the place to
• 48:00
  Speaker 13: do it, But of course they'd argue, well that's the
• 48:01
  Speaker 13: Storm home ground, so it doesn't look it is about
• 48:04
  Speaker 13: for Land. He's a great administrator and he doesn't hold enough.
• 48:09
  Speaker 13: They follow the follow the money.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Joe, Yes, that is exactly a storm win.
• 48:14
  Speaker 14: This is Look, this is firstly, this is classic pet
• 48:17
  Speaker 14: of Land. This is the ultimate showman, the ultimate salesman.
• 48:21
  Speaker 14: But at least if at least if the n r
• 48:23
  Speaker 14: L Grand Final is held in Melbourne, Steve Victoria the field, Joe,
• 48:29
  Speaker 14: absolutely not.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: No parent Panthers are going to win. And if they don't,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: the Daily.
• 48:32
  Speaker 14: Tael Raffle lead one hundred thousand people to fill the
• 48:36
  Speaker 14: to make sure.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe, thank you. Gary's storm goes right to
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: be with you both. George coming up next. They'll be
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: back next Friday.