Latest / Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast / Teen Sexting: Insights and Solutions
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- 0:01Speaker 1: With the John and Ben Podcast.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Cheers to Dilma making the world a better tea.
- 0:06Speaker 3: I think you nice to be here, Holly.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Sexting big topic and Ben, just as we were about
- 0:12Speaker 1: to start talking to you, a jaw dropping statistic.
- 0:16Speaker 3: Yeah, forty percent on your article I'm reading on the
- 0:19Speaker 3: parenting place, forty percent of young people in a survey
- 0:21Speaker 3: in last year said they'd done it.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was informal research. Just looking at research
- 0:29Speaker 2: today in Australia, there was some research down in twenty
- 0:32Speaker 2: twenty one that said fourteen to eighteen year olds have
- 0:35Speaker 2: found sexting ordinary practice. Eighty six percent have perceived sex
- 0:40Speaker 2: in seventy percent have sent them, eighty.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Six have received.
- 0:44Speaker 2: That is a wild figure, super high number.
- 0:48Speaker 3: So what do we do? Sorry, just well to use
- 0:51Speaker 3: the term strip it back, which seems like a weird
- 0:52Speaker 3: term to use. But what do you when you say
- 0:54Speaker 3: sex thing? What do you exactly mean?
- 0:56Speaker 1: Like?
- 0:56Speaker 3: I know what some of them I'm not an idiot,
- 0:58Speaker 3: I know, but I mean, is it all time of?
- 1:00Speaker 1: Like?
- 1:00Speaker 2: The sex thing involves taking self made naked or partially
- 1:05Speaker 2: naked sexual photos, videos, or explicit text messages and send
- 1:10Speaker 2: them online or buy a text message, so they're often
- 1:14Speaker 2: referred to as nudes or a little bit more crudely
- 1:18Speaker 2: as dick picks. Yeah, as you know from the stats,
- 1:21Speaker 2: it is an increasing it's an increasing kind of more
- 1:24Speaker 2: normalized thing that is happening. And so I think as
- 1:28Speaker 2: parents it's really important that we are aware. I know
- 1:31Speaker 2: it's so cringey to think about our chilism and involved
- 1:34Speaker 2: with this, but we need to find foot it so
- 1:36Speaker 2: that we can help prepare them for it if they're
- 1:39Speaker 2: asked to send a nude or they send one, Because what.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Are those conversations that you do need to have Because
- 1:44Speaker 3: I know that not necessarily even just with it when
- 1:46Speaker 3: it comes to rude messages, but I know that, and
- 1:49Speaker 3: this probably comes from years of me having embarrassing sketches
- 1:52Speaker 3: and skits online that you know, things that I've done.
- 1:55Speaker 3: But once you send something I can't say to the kids.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Once you send, even of it's to your friend or whatever,
- 2:00Speaker 3: you've kind of lost control of that image or whatever
- 2:03Speaker 3: it does you've seen that has now gone, even if
- 2:06Speaker 3: you trust them that way totally.
- 2:08Speaker 2: And I think this is such a good point is
- 2:10Speaker 2: that we have, like our kids are growing up in
- 2:12Speaker 2: such a different era than we were when I was
- 2:14Speaker 2: growing up in the eighties, I didn't even know what.
- 2:16Speaker 1: The until it was. If I wanted to see any
- 2:19Speaker 1: images of genitals, I don't have to go to a
- 2:21Speaker 1: toilet wall and draw them on there. It is crazy,
- 2:24Speaker 1: it really is.
- 2:26Speaker 2: It is, and so you know, he Okay. What we're
- 2:28Speaker 2: finding is that a lot of parents find this such
- 2:30Speaker 2: an awkward, uncomfortable topic to talk about with their kids
- 2:32Speaker 2: because it is. It's really awkward, and we don't want
- 2:34Speaker 2: to imagine that our kids could be involved in this,
- 2:36Speaker 2: but we don't prepare them for it, and we don't
- 2:39Speaker 2: have the kind of the conversation as an open thing
- 2:43Speaker 2: that they can know that we know about it and
- 2:45Speaker 2: they can come to us. They could get themselves into
- 2:47Speaker 2: a risky situation. So here's an example I heard last
- 2:50Speaker 2: week from a counselor in New Zealand. It's a really
- 2:53Speaker 2: upsetting story. Is about a young girl under sixteen. Her
- 2:57Speaker 2: boyfriend asked you to send a note to want to
- 3:01Speaker 2: pressure her, told her that everyone's doing it, so eventually
- 3:04Speaker 2: she sent him a nude. He edited the nude and
- 3:09Speaker 2: sent it an assembly by ear drop to everybody. It
- 3:13Speaker 2: was really just school in the school in the assembly,
- 3:18Speaker 2: and for a year she didn't tell her parents, she
- 3:20Speaker 2: didn't tell any teachers, and he continued to after that event,
- 3:24Speaker 2: he started to pressure her to send more nudes, spun
- 3:28Speaker 2: threatening her, and it became this kind of escalating issue.
- 3:31Speaker 2: She kept it to herself. She was so embarrassed about it.
- 3:35Speaker 2: She ended up getting to a point where she was
- 3:37Speaker 2: self harming, really depressed, in suicidal and after he had
- 3:41Speaker 2: told him and then was able to see a counsel
- 3:43Speaker 2: and get some help. But this is such as not
- 3:47Speaker 2: a unique situation. I hear these stories regally, and this
- 3:51Speaker 2: is why we do have to have conversations with our
- 3:53Speaker 2: kids and we can be guided by them. You know,
- 3:56Speaker 2: it's not happening to every child, but what we want
- 3:58Speaker 2: is for you know, if our child was asked to
- 4:00Speaker 2: send a node, or they see one, or they're getting pressured,
- 4:03Speaker 2: we want them to know they can come to us.
- 4:05Speaker 2: We're not going to freak out, We're not going to
- 4:06Speaker 2: be angry at them. We're going to support them and
- 4:09Speaker 2: help them to know how to how to handle it.
- 4:12Speaker 1: There's a heartbreaking story. And if there are kids listening
- 4:17Speaker 1: to this or parents listening to this, once you get
- 4:19Speaker 1: over that initial embarrassment. Once it's open and out there
- 4:22Speaker 1: and you're having a conversation, that disappears that embarrassment.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and I think what was awesome for
- 4:28Speaker 2: parents to be able to do for their kids. We've
- 4:29Speaker 2: got a great article on our website, but we love
- 4:32Speaker 2: the what would you do question? So it's just being
- 4:35Speaker 2: a little bit curious about what your kids know about
- 4:37Speaker 2: nudes and then ask, okay, so what would you do
- 4:40Speaker 2: if someone asks for a nude? This is a really
- 4:43Speaker 2: great way to help your kids think kind of critically
- 4:46Speaker 2: about what they would do in the situation before it
- 4:48Speaker 2: actually happens. And they've got some kind of tools in
- 4:51Speaker 2: their KTI so that they have the language, they know
- 4:53Speaker 2: how to respond. They might still kind of freeze and
- 4:56Speaker 2: you know, be a bit unsure, but they've had the
- 4:58Speaker 2: conversation and they know that they can come to you
- 5:01Speaker 2: and say, hey Mum, this thing happened, or hey dad.
- 5:04Speaker 1: I've just always applied by the rule just don't put
- 5:06Speaker 1: my genitaals on the internet. You know, that's just I
- 5:08Speaker 1: want to see them.
- 5:09Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't even want to see my
- 5:11Speaker 3: own genitals. There'll on everyone else.
- 5:15Speaker 2: That's a message for our boys too.
- 5:18Speaker 1: You pat, No, they're horrendous looking things.
- 5:20Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, so that's a worst case scenario. It
- 5:24Speaker 3: has happened. What can you and I know you deal
- 5:27Speaker 3: with this in the article as well. It's out there
- 5:29Speaker 3: in the world. There are some steps you can do
- 5:31Speaker 3: to try and absolutely get it removed in some ways.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, we want to contact the social media
- 5:37Speaker 2: platform immediately with it and shared. It might not have
- 5:41Speaker 2: been social media, It might have been ear dropped in assembly.
- 5:44Speaker 2: It could have been what several text message, So we're
- 5:46Speaker 2: going to fit social media. You want to report it,
- 5:49Speaker 2: contact net Safe and make a report. They operate the
- 5:51Speaker 2: Harmful Digital Communications at and they are able to help
- 5:55Speaker 2: help you navigate the process of getting access to that
- 5:58Speaker 2: image blocked. There's also a really great website called take
- 6:01Speaker 2: It Down, which basically puts like a hashing kind of
- 6:05Speaker 2: code onto the image and it will constantly fall the
- 6:07Speaker 2: Internet to find that image and take it down. It's
- 6:10Speaker 2: not feel proof, but yeah, net safe and take it
- 6:12Speaker 2: down and reporting it if it's on such reporting it
- 6:15Speaker 2: to that to that platform is really important.
- 6:18Speaker 1: We might really run take it down over a couple
- 6:20Speaker 1: of our old bits of content and you know, you flip,
- 6:26Speaker 1: you flip the other side. You're just telling that story
- 6:28Speaker 1: of what that boyfriend was doing to that girl, and
- 6:30Speaker 1: he's clearly got a lot of learning to do in life.
- 6:32Speaker 1: But if you find one of your kids is sharing
- 6:35Speaker 1: the images like that, would that would be devastating. How
- 6:38Speaker 1: would you approach that?
- 6:39Speaker 2: Oh, do you know, it's really important for our kids
- 6:40Speaker 2: to know it's actually illegal. You're you're officially sending your
- 6:44Speaker 2: distributing child's excuse material. So that's a really important message
- 6:47Speaker 2: that our kids need to know, our boys and our girls,
- 6:50Speaker 2: because there is a bit of a culture developing with
- 6:52Speaker 2: kids are sharing this type of content thinking it's funny,
- 6:55Speaker 2: it's entertaining, it's amusing, and it's illegal. So you could
- 6:59Speaker 2: have a policeman knock on your door. You could be
- 7:01Speaker 2: investigated at a crime and that's an important message we
- 7:04Speaker 2: need to tell our kids.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Well, that's yeah, that's that's really good. Holly Jene, this
- 7:07Speaker 1: has been very interesting. Thank you so much, and we'll
- 7:09Speaker 1: helpe you catch up with you shortly.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Yeah, you too.