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Know The Enemy: Vanderbilt · Boundary Corner Podcast

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As we get into know the enemy, it is the Vanderbilt Commodores.
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They're coming in want to know after a 45 three win versus the
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mighty Charleston Southern. Yes, I do say that
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sarcastically. So, yeah.
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But you know, we we the best thing about doing this is kind
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of reintroducing yourself to guys because a lot of the
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players they had last year are still here this year.
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And let's just talk about it's Tim Beck, Jerry kills offense.
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Best thing is this year we got tape on we have tape of what
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they're probably going to do unlike last year, although you
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thought we know we're don't do. But obviously when you're
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talking about Vanderbilt, you got to talk about what is he
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like 32 now? He keeps applying for years of
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eligibility and they keep random eligibility.
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I'm I'm trying to be a joker here, but Diego Pavia, you know,
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guy burned us last year, got us on numerous things started off
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hot this year against VFCS foe throwing for 275 and three
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touchdowns. But you know, if you don't know
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his game, Brian Talley, I don't know which one are y'all going
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to talk about him? But y'all go ahead and kind of
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get that little high level stuff on him and Sheldon kick in
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anything you got. Yeah.
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I mean, we know Diego Pavia, man, he's a dual threat
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quarterback. He's got that that that moxie in
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the pocket, that pocket presence.
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He's what you call a gamer. He's not really physically
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imposing, but he makes plays, especially with his legs.
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We saw him a lot last year, you know, running kind of a triple
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option look out of the shotgun down in Nashville.
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That really, really gave us a ton of problems and we couldn't
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get off the field consistently and it ultimately bit us in the
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end there at the end of the game as well.
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Tell me what you got. He's just probably just a
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nightmare because he's just a football player.
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I mean, he's a good quarterback, but you know, when you watch him
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play, he's not scared of anything, not not too big, but
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you know, he he's going to go get it.
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You know, he's making people miss in the open field.
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You know, he's very heady when he gets along that sideline.
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He knows right when to take that step out.
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So you hit him late and he makes the he makes throws.
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You know, he's got some players over there.
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We'll talk about a couple of them here in just a minute, but
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definitely, definitely going to be we'll have our hands full.
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But I say all that to say different type of quarterback
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than Sellers, but he's not better than sellers.
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Sellers is not, you know, I don't think he's as good as they
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hype him up to be. I don't know if he's the number
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one player that like they saying, but different type of
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quarterback. But I don't think if we can keep
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sellers in the pocket a little bit, we can kind of keep Pavi in
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there. So I'm hoping that we've done
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some things at him that he hadn't seen.
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Shove. You got anything on him?
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Yeah, last year he had the 4th best PFF grade when throwing
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from a clean pocket, which is considered one of the more
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predictive and stable stats for for evaluating quarterback play
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is pocket, you know, pocket presence.
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The other quarterbacks on that list, Cam Board, Jackson, Dart
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Shooter, Sanders, all above him. And then Tyler Show, Will Howard
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and Tommy Castellanos for the next 3.
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So that's a list of really good quarterbacks, almost all NFL
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guys or guys that will be in the FL pretty soon.
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So he is a he's a very calm and imposing presence when he's
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thrown from the pocket. Yes, he is all righty.
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And who does he like to throw to?
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Well, the guy's 64. He's like 245.
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Talk about Eli stores. He absolutely torched us last
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year. This year already starting hot 4
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for 86 against Charleston Southern last weekend.
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Did not have a touchdown, but averaging 21 1/2, 21 1/2 per
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reception. And if you go back to the game
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last year against us, he put up similar numbers.
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He led them in receiving yards against Vt last year, it was
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only two for 46, but everybody else was held in check pretty
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much. I think the next guy was like at
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30. So he is that guy now.
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Tally, You played it. You've seen him play.
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Obviously you've seen him play, you know, in person.
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You probably watch the Alabama in the Texas game last year.
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He's a he's a match up nightmare.
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He's a match up nightmare. Not because he's like he's not
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like super technical on routes. So he's not going to, you know,
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Juke you to get open like you see a good wide receiver do.
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But he just has he's like an NFL tight end, you know what I'm
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saying? One of those hybrid tight ends
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that's too fast for certain people to guard him and too big
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for other people to guard him. So he uses his body to get where
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he wants to go and he can high point the ball with that big
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frame. So he's a, he's a nightmare to
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deal with. We have some people that can
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deal with him. That's why we play the game.
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But he's a he, he's going, he's going to be fun to watch.
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Man, I, I pay attention to tight ends all the time and he's one
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of those. He's one of those, but like
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Notre Dame, Penn State type tight ends, you know what I'm
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saying? Just kind of they should be a
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wide receiver, but they're so big because I don't see him
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doing a whole bunch like in the running game where he's just
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mauling people. You can block a little bit, but
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he's out there to catch the ball so.
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Yeah, I mean, he's the guy that went to New Mexico State as a
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quarterback, so very much a Logan Thomas transition type
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guy. Yeah, just did it, you know, in
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college before he got to the NFL, You know, he's got that
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similar type skill set. Just a a a body can make a play,
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like I said, like Tally you said, but not very technical,
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isn't a great blocker. He does.
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He's not going to do a ton from a blocking standpoint, but he's
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he's just a playmaker. Yeah, 100% and it showed in last
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year. You know, I mean, the the really
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big game last year is he, I mean, he didn't torch us, but he
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made a couple big plays for us on us last year.
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His big game last year. Go look at the Alabama tape.
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He crushed them. He crushed them last year.
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And I know hopefully everything's going on with
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Alabama stays because I'm sure Tally's having a nice laugh this
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week down in his home state with some of those fans.
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But yeah, we lost Shelton. I don't know what Shelton had.
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Shelton, did you get? Did you have anything on Stowers
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before we move on? Nope.
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Nothing. Nothing on Stowers.
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OK, let's talk Cedric Alexander, another one of the guys we saw
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last year. It looks like he is their lead
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back again for the second straight year.
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Just 83 yards on on 12 carries on Saturday against Charleston
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Southern. But you know, last year right at
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800 yards total from scrimmage. So we definitely have some pass
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catching ability. Anything else, Brian, just kind
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of reviewing your notes on it from last year and maybe looking
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a little bit this year? Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that
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last year, you know, he he was healthy start of the year, kind
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of faded as the year went on with some injuries and had some
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problems with that was a little less effective, a little less
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explosive. But sounds like he's healthy,
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rounded into form. You know, when he's in form, he
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does a good job of making the first person miss and he does
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have some explosiveness where you can hit the long one on you.
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So that's that's one thing We're going to have to make sure that
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we're we're keeping him in check there.
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And you know, when we look at a team that was struggling with
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some missed tackles, we want to make sure that we're tackling
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sure on him in the backfield. He's a good athlete, man.
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He made a catch in that, in that whatever whoever they just
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played Charleston Southern, Yeah.
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Pretty much. Yeah, he made a a hell of a
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catch for a touchdown. I believe he's just he's a great
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athlete. You know, it's it's fun to watch
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him play, You know, not a fan of Vanderbilt, but I'm a fan of
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good football. And to watch him, watch him do
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some of the things he's done and then seeing him live last year,
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you got to go hit him, you got to go hit him.
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You can't you can't come up and and play around if you want to
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get him to the ground. So again, I think that we have
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the defense to do it. It just comes down to what the
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game plan looks like and do we want it.
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I think Virginia Tech is one of those one of those teams schools
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that should always have an underdog mindset no matter what
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It feels like. You know all we're we're seven
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point favorite. They should.
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The coaches should just instill it in their in their team that
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you're on the everybody should. Always feel disrespected.
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Always should feel disrespected. Man.
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This team embarrassed you last year, you know, you went down
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that of their house and people was falling out and fainting and
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all type of junk and they had half the stadium closed down
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because it was raggedy. Whatever.
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Had it still closed down they they still have an open up the
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end zone. And listen to freaking country
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music walking in there and walking out.
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Hey, ain't done wrong with country music.
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I hate country music. I don't want to.
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I don't want to hear Luke Bryan, Brian Luke, Dennis the Menace,
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whatever their names is. I want to.
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I want, I want to hear Inner Sandman.
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How about that coming to Blacksburg, you hear Inner
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Sandman and I want the team to go out and feel disrespected and
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go win. And I ain't talking about a
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three hour stomach ache. I just want you to go.
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I want to be able to get up going.
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To get a cigar and a whiskey. And and just be rambling in the
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pantry for chips and not worried about that play because we
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already up, you know, 21 points and I ain't worried about them,
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man, go make a statement. That's what I want.
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You to do if. Somebody let Luke Bryan know
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it's on site when Tally sees him.
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And. Then you know when you go to,
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you know when you go to Nashville, all of their bars are
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named after somebody country. They like, oh, this is this is
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Blake Shelton's place. I'll be like, what kind of food
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they got in there. I don't care about Blake
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Shelton's pretty cool. Now.
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I ain't talking to talk about it about that, but I don't care
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about all that stuff. I'm trying to get up here to see
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this game. So we want to hear in a Sandman.
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That's what we want to hear. Get that?
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Country music. There you go all right, one last
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piece wanted to talk about their offensive line.
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You know looks like they had a set 5 going out there again,
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they were playing like tally you joking?
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Literally, I think Charleston Southern was the worst FCS team
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last year, So it literally was they were playing school for the
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blind. But something I was listening to
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and it caught my eye. Excuse me, it caught my ear was
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they feel some of their fans, some of their podcasters feel
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that they really do not have a true tackle on the team.
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It's just a bunch of guards. But with what they do, it makes
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sense, right? They're running a lot of option.
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They need to get guys up field. But the one thing that caught my
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eye stat wise against Charleston Southern, not a good FCS vote.
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They have three offensive holding penalties.
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That says something because, Brian, when there's an offensive
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holding penalty, what does that usually mean to happen to the
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offensive lineman? You're either getting beat or
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the refs on some bullshit. And I think at a 28 nothing
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game, I don't think the ref was on bullshit.
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So Brian, anything with any of these guys?
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Shelton, anything, 'cause I I'll be honest, I watched a couple
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highlights, but it's like, can I really watch this?
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Can I get anything out of it? No.
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Yeah, I mean, there there's some ton that jumps out.
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You know, you kind of highlighted it, right, with, you
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know, this is going to be a an option focus offense.
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You don't need a true tackle out there.
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I mean, there this is still a team that's going to be dropping
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back. But because of the way they run
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the football and the way they use that, that rushing attack,
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you're going to have some built in buffer for a pass rush
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because of that, except in obvious situations, right.
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So, you know, you don't need a true like blind side NFL caliber
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tackle out there. But I, I, they, they do a pretty
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good job of, of what they do well in that option game.
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I'm, I'm interested to see if we can do well on those first and
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second downs and we get them into those more obvious passing
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situations, how we're able to exploit them.
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But with with not having, you know, really traditional tackles
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on that, on that off the line. Shown anything on the old line
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from your statistical point of view.
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No, I think anything I'll you can give me back in a SEC.
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I'm looking up some stuff. All righty.
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Well, that's the offense, I mean, and we and we know what
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they are. We all saw it on tape last year.
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We just got to be better this year because last year The thing
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is, and we'll all sit here and say it, defense didn't play
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great last year, but we still should have won the fucking
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game. That's that's it.
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Like the defense didn't play great.
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The offense didn't play great for 1/2 I'd.
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Say 3/4. I ain't, I'm, I'm not going to
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give you a half because they were parts of the second-half
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where they just disappeared at times, you know, like at the
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end. All right, let's go over to
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defense. Big story on defense.
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Can I can I say something about offense while we go?
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Absolutely, Sir. That's what we're here for.
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If if Chance Fitzgerald comes to Blacksburg and has a legacy
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game, I'm going to lose my mind. OK.
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I'm going to lose my He'd better not even have a catch.
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He didn't have a catch against Charleston Southern, right?
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He comes back to black if he comes to Blacksburg and I hear
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his name called. No disrespect to the kid, but
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I'm just saying one planet Tech, he ain't playing that game if he
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comes back. Because see, that's what we
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normally do. We usually give people who ain't
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the caliber to have a legacy game.
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We let him have a legacy game to do from Syracuse last year.
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I don't even know his name. Fucking catching balls all on
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us. A kid from Duke probably never
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caught a football a day in his life.
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Had a 93 yard bomb the first play.
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You know different. Nick Harbour doing it.
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Nick, you know he's a good player.
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NFLNFL guy, right? If y'all let Chance Fitzgerald
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come to Blacksburg and head top you, I'm on nut top you.
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There you go everybody. If I get that, if I get that,
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no, he did not have the catch against Charleston Southern.
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He did not have a catch against Charleston Southern.
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So there is that. Sean, if you got anything on
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offense, we'll let you kick back in here.
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I want to click over the defense and talk about kind of a kind of
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a big story. Last year.
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Big story was Parkley was trying to save his job.
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Parkley took over the defense and they played pretty well last
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year, pretty solid all the way Vanderbilt standards.
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But he has decided to turn that over and he is turning it over
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to a guy by the name of Steve Gregory.
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Well, Steve Gregory is a former Patriot and he was on staff last
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year, He was a consultant last year at Vanderbilt.
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He had been in the NFL since 2018, various various positions
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with the Lions, the Dolphins for about 6 years there.
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But he's turned the keys over to him.
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And the one thing if you if y'all noticed and it kind of was
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pointed out, he likes to be a little bit more aggressive.
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Where if you've known Clark Lee like a Notre Dame and where he's
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coached, Clark Lee is a more buttoned up approach.
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Very, do what you do, stay in your zones and we're going to
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win the game. This guy's a little bit
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different. So saying all that, Brian, let's
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take a look at a few of these players here and I know you and
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Tally got a couple guys highlighted who you want to
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start with. Let's start with CJ Hurd, man, I
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feel like he is the the biggest playmaker on their defense.
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He's a very sure tackler, big high motor guy and when you look
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at the back end of that defense, he's really the quarterback of
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that defense. He's their leader.
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He's the undisputed leader on the defense.
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So he's really the biggest difference maker that they have
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on that side of the ball. Yeah, and he came in as a
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transfer from FAU and 80 plus tackles last year there.
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Didn't play much, but found the ball in the air against
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Charleston's southern 4th pick. So he's already making his voice
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heard there. And again, it's it's it's why
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you why you, you love the Portal and why you hate the portal.
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Because in the old days he was just played at FAU.
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He would have never made his way up.
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So yeah, tally who you got you want to talk about here?
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Mulan's brother? Was it Elan?
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I don't even know where you're from.
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I ain't going to try to pronounce that last name, But D
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Taco. D Taco didn't play in the first
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game, right? We didn't.
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Get it in the. First grain, but they they talk
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a lot about him. Supposed to be a monster in the
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middle. Hopefully we don't see him.
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I don't care if we don't see him, but bro is.
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Big Man 667-3312, something like that.
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It's a big dude, man. He's a big son of a bitch.
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Yeah. So we going to have to get him
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off the line. You know, we're going to have to
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do some stuff to create some space so we can move.
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But again, I don't think that he's going to be more talented
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than what we've seen this past week.
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And this is what I'll say just about the team in general.
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No disrespect to Vanderbilt. A lot of talk about Vanderbilt
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last year, right? I know they're trying to build a
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program. How many games did they win?
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Did they win six games? They did.
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They won six games. They're Virginia Tech, you know
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what I'm saying? They a lot of people was, but
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I'm saying a lot of times people last year were talking about
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them like because they beat Alabama.
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This ain't the same Alabama as when Nick was there.
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So no disrespect to Randy. They beat us, they beat Alabama,
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but they still only won six games.
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It's true. We've got to go in and punish
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teams like this. Just go in and play.
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Go in and do what you do. Don't go in with this
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conservative shit. If you can get these receivers
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one-on-one like South Carolina was playing us, they can beat
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their they can beat their corners.
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Let them go beat them. Karen.
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I'm going to say this about Karen too.
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Before we get to the end of this, I was going to talk a
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little bit about it on keys to win.
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If I'm a coach, I'm not a coach, but if I'm a coach in that
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locker room or somebody recruiting or, you know, one of
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them young ladies who help with whatever they do.
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I will pull Karen to the side and say, listen, man, this is
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what you need to do. You ain't going to the NFL.
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This is just what I would say. I don't know if he's going to
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the NFL or not. You ain't going to the NFL.
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Just get that through your head and think about this.
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You just need to focus on being the best Virginia Tech
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quarterback that ever there ever was, right?
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You may not be, but that's what you need to focus on.
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You need to be the guy probably like, what's the Texas
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quarterback that just left Quinn?
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Yours, right, Yours. Be the guy that gives Virginia
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Tech back. You go out and you win eight
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games this year. You can come to Blacksburg and
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do whatever you want to do. You're always going to have a
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great name in Blacksburg just because of what you did this
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year. You ain't got no more years.
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If you got to run, go run. If you got to throw, go throw.
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Go back to the bowl game when it was raining.
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I don't know how many rushing yards Kyron had.
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And I'm not saying we need to run him like that, but I got so
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fucking tired of him. And the commentators say, oh,
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they don't want him to take hits like that.
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He ain't no he know what he doing it like.
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He's been playing football a long time.
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He's about the size of sellers. They weren't saying sellers
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taking hits. Sellers was getting crushed too.
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With a he's a strong guy. He's able to get up.
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Kyron can do that too. And he got.
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It he's not some injury prone kid.
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That's, I get it. Y'all are frustrated.
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Everybody's frustrated because not y'all, but I'm saying the
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chat, the fans, because I've heard people say, you know,
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Kyron is this and that Kyron gives us the best chance to win.
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Kyron just has to go out and beat Kyron.
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If you got to go and get 10 yards and get out of bounds, go
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do that. If you got to go get 5 yards and
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get down, stop going head first, slide and make them hit you and
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get 15 more yards. Play this game smart.
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Go out and be the best Virginia Tech quarterback that you can be
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and let the chips fall where they may because there may be
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some more inspirations. That may be some NFL in there.
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But we got to for Kyrie to get to the next level, he's got to
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win eight games. He's got to turn some heads with
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the fan base, with the people who are watching him because
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right now he's an afterthought, you know what I'm saying?
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When he's playing other, they're going to talk about Diego Pavia
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more than they talk about Kyrie $10,000 more and he's at your
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house. When we played at Miami last
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year, he was pissed off and he went into that game and you
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could tell that he wanted to show that he was the same
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caliber as as, as, as Cam Ward. Not saying that he is he's his
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own quarterback, but I'm saying he should go into every game
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pissed off and say I'm going to get disrespected.
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I got to go out and earn every bit of respect I got to get.
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So if I got to run this motherfucker 50 times a day for
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us to win, that's what I'm going to do.
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Because if you go back and look at MM was probably the best to
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do it at Virginia Tech, he would have 100 yards passing and 100
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yards rushing. If that's what he had to do to
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win. Just saying I'm off my soapbox.
23:22
I'm a let it go he. Won't let it go, Shelton I'm I'm
23:27
going to wrap this up a little early.
23:28
I'm going to hit one more player and then we're going to get into
23:30
keys because tally Cali, I'm assuming you read some stuff and
23:34
it just set y'all anything offensively, defensively,
23:37
statistically that is or data wise jumping out to say if we're
23:41
going to beat them or if they're going to, if they're going to do
23:44
the unthinkable, it's this. Yeah, not really because you
23:49
know, they they had some high PFF graders like mouse capers,
23:52
one of their they're edge guys, third highest graded SEC player
23:56
right now. But again, only one opponent.
23:59
It was really bad. So I don't know how much to make
24:00
of that. But I would say look at some of
24:02
the analytics. They're they're pretty balanced
24:04
overall offensively and defensively, you know, top 45 in
24:07
both, you know, both metrics. So I don't know, I mean, they're
24:11
they're kind of a little, a little bit maybe what Vt was
24:13
last year, just kind of good, good on both sides of the ball,
24:16
but not like a lead. So yeah, I just, I, I don't know
24:20
what to make of them yet, just based on the small sample size
24:22
and the fact that they, they haven't really played anyone,
24:25
anyone of notes. Got it.
24:27
All right, one last thing to know, Brian, I'm going to just
24:30
jump through this. Langston Patterson, he's their
24:32
leading tackler. He got 10 tackles on us last
24:34
year. Basically, motor guy, all that
24:39
fun stuff. Langston Patterson, let's get to
24:42
the keys here. Brian, I'm going to let you
24:44
lead. I'm going to let Tally get his
24:45
breath here. But Brian, what's your key to
24:48
this game? You need to score points on
24:51
offense. And I mean literally we didn't
24:52
score any points on offense of the the special team scored.
24:57
You know, they kick, they kick some field goals.
24:59
We got a safety, but we didn't score offensive points.
25:01
So you got to do that first. That's the first thing you got
25:03
to do if you want to beat Vanderbilt is actually score
25:06
offensive points. So go out there and do that.
25:09
Let the let's, as Tally said, let the chips fall where they
25:11
may. Shelton, what about you?
25:13
What's the key for the Hokies this week?
25:15
Yeah, I would say contain Pavia, keep him in the pocket I
25:21
mentioned you know his his pocket numbers.
25:24
First of all, you want to you want to pressure him obviously,
25:27
but he had 276 scramble yards last year for Vanderbilt, 8
25:32
rushing touchdowns, of course, one that came against Virginia
25:34
Tech. So you got to limit him there
25:37
and just try to get as much pressure on him as you can
25:39
because if you let him sit in the pocket all day, he is going
25:41
to make you. Pay for it.
25:43
All right? I'm going to go to me next
25:45
because Tally lets you close it out for me.
25:47
I'm going to pull up the wife's little comment here.
25:49
Make him pay, make Pavia pay. Be a goon.
25:53
Be the assholes. You know what hit him?
25:58
Swimming, if you get a 15, make him pay.
26:00
He's got moxie, he's got will. But it's like anybody that's
26:04
ever been punched, you get keep getting punched and keep getting
26:07
hurt. A lot of times you lose that
26:09
energy to keep going forward. You see it in boxing matches,
26:13
fights, UFC fights all the time. Somebody keeps sticking you and
26:16
keep hurting you. It's like I I got to do
26:18
something different here. Make him pay.
26:20
Whether it's in the pocket or when he scrambles, make him pay.
26:25
Good things will happen. Tally.
26:29
I'm going to keep saying it, offense has to take the layups,
26:33
man, and you got to make them. You know, if it's a 5 yard play
26:36
there, I'm not putting it all on the quarterback, all on the
26:39
receivers, all in the line. It's as a whole.
26:42
If it's a 5 yard pass, let's, let's, let's get the five yard
26:45
pass. You know, if there's a 10 yard
26:51
scramble, take the 10 yard scramble.
26:54
Kind of like what you said, Curtis, and what Dwight's saying
26:57
in the in the chat. I mean, you got to go out and
27:00
have a little bit of asshole to you, man.
27:03
You got to go out and you got to feel again.
27:05
I hate that. I don't want nobody to think
27:07
that I'm putting this all on our quarterback, but I got a lot of
27:12
faith in Karen drones, right? And just for him, you know, he's
27:19
AI. Don't think that we are.
27:21
I don't think that we have anything else in the well that
27:25
is as good as him right now. Maybe coming up, maybe some of
27:29
the youngsters, I don't know. But if they were, if they were,
27:34
if they could be on the field for us to win, they'd be on
27:36
that. So I need him to I need him to
27:38
go out and feel disrespected. Like I said, they're coming to
27:40
your house that that you're going to hear a lot about Diego
27:44
Pavia, another six and six quarterback.
27:47
You know what I'm saying, that that ain't one shit that
27:50
everybody's going to talk about how great he is.
27:53
All Karen got to go out and do is take the layups and put some
27:57
down points on the board. Go some points.
28:00
Score some points. All right, let's get our
28:02
predictions in here. Shelton, I'm going to start
28:05
with. You yes.
28:09
So my prediction I, I, I, my brain says that pive is going to
28:14
light Vt up, which I think is probably true.
28:16
However, I do think Vt is going to find a way to get a win.
28:20
I think it will be the first one score victory for the Hokies in
28:24
three years. I'll say I'll say 27 to 21 US
28:31
high score, but I do think the Hokies will will find a way to
28:34
get a win and get that power for non conference losing streak off
28:38
their backs for the first time in eight years.
28:41
Please please. It was in the chat somebody had
28:43
It's eight years to the day, West Virginia at FedEx Field
28:47
back in 2017, Brian. Brian's got a y'all if y'all
28:52
didn't pay attention last week, Brian's got.
28:54
Brian's got a vendetta right now.
28:57
Yeah man, I I'm going to commit to the bit at this point.
29:00
I got to see us take care of AP4 opponent before I'm going to
29:04
move off of this. I've got us losing A1 score game
29:07
to Vandy 3027. Jesus Christ.
29:12
Well, he said he's going to do it, he said.
29:14
Until they proved him wrong. He's got to.
29:16
I don't blame him. You.
29:18
Got to show me you can take care of business against a Power 4
29:21
out of conference at home, man. And I haven't seen it.
29:23
So I need to see it. And until I do, that's what I'm
29:26
going to have there. You go tally.
29:28
What about you? I want to go with Brian, but I
29:31
can't do it, man. I just can't.
29:33
I can't say it. You know what I'm saying?
29:35
Even if I thank it and believe it, I can't say that.
29:38
So I got to say I'm leaning more towards the shelf, but I think
29:42
it's going to be more like a 10 point win.
29:45
I'd be too nervous to say we win in A1 score game.
29:48
So I'm going to say I'm going to say a 10.10 point victory.
29:52
I don't know how how deep we go into that, that scoring scoring
29:57
thing. And I just want to hit on what
30:00
Andre Andre says here. Just curious, is Drones really
30:04
better or does NIL have something to do with him
30:06
starting? Sometimes the NIL does have to
30:08
do what people starting. Our coach is on the hot seat.
30:14
That seat is hot. It fucking feeling like his ass
30:18
is feeling like pins and needles are sticking it right now.
30:22
If somebody else is better, they're going in the game.
30:25
If he goes out and he ain't good enough, somebody else is going
30:28
in that game. That's just my feeling.
30:30
If he doesn't have a good practice, like if you don't,
30:33
somebody else would already be in.
30:35
So I think drones is the best. That's just my of of what we
30:38
have. So that's just my assessment.
30:41
I could be wrong. But back to what you asked
30:44
Curtis. We going to win by 10 points.
30:46
Win by 10 points. I I am going to go 3123.
30:54
Technically that is A1 score game, one score game, but I
31:01
think it's one of those things where like the the faith I have
31:06
in the defense right now is I I put up 23 and the way I'm seeing
31:11
this in my head, they're getting to 23 would like a score with
31:14
one minute left to go. Like like they had to drive the
31:18
whole field in the fourth quarter and they finally punched
31:20
it in and you know, they have to do it on side.
31:23
We recover game over, we kneel on it.
31:25
So by 8, I think we all hope it's this score though, so we
31:30
can all be. I know Brian's going to come
31:32
over to the house Saturday night.
31:33
We're going to have some drinks, eat some food, watch a game.
31:37
So, yeah, but throw your predictions because again, I'm
31:43
going to say this and I and I and I said I was going to say at
31:45
the beginning of the program, but I decided, hold on.
31:48
I think this is the biggest game for Brent Pryor because if you
31:53
lose this one, there's going to be a lot of people.
31:56
I'm not saying they're not going to tune in, but like you, you
31:59
can't be the guy you started O 1-2.
32:02
You lost a home game. Like you've got to win this game
32:06
because as you look at the schedule, you win this game and
32:09
you start touting out everything, right?
32:13
You could win quite a few in a row going into October, but if
32:17
you don't win this one, there we go.
32:20
It's going it's going to get ugly.
32:21
They're. Going to get ahead potentially,
32:26
I don't know, fast, maybe like come November fast.
32:28
But was you? On was you on X after this last
32:32
game? You get, you know it's going to.
32:35
Get ugly off, Yeah, Whether the whether the the win loss record
32:39
gets ugly or not, it's going to get ugly behind the scenes.
32:42
That's what I'm saying. Well, the whole thing is and,
32:45
and, and I made this point to a guy at work today.
32:47
Y'all ready for it? Brent Pride has two years left
32:49
on his contract. Two years because he had a six
32:54
year contract. First of all, this guy get fired
32:58
because we ain't going to be allowed.
32:59
Brian, you said at the beginning back a couple weeks ago if we
33:03
ain't fired by mid-october, you are not getting a new football
33:06
coach next year. The second thing is going to be
33:09
the buy. If you fire him this year, this
33:12
year and you got to pay 26 and 27 and then you got to pay, you
33:16
better have $30 million. Whit's already screaming to the
33:19
board, I need more money. If you fire Pry after this year,
33:23
better come up with $30 million because that's going to be his
33:25
buyout, plus to pay a whole new coaching staff at the rack rate
33:29
what we're doing now so everybody can scream and bitch
33:32
and we need to fire him. And I might agree with you, but
33:35
I look logically at things. We ain't got $30 million just to
33:38
piss down and say you fired, We're going to get a new coach.
33:44
We're bringing Chucky in. That's what I've heard.
33:48
Then, then then it. Better be about 220 million
33:50
because he ain't going to go for the $5,000,000 a year.
33:53
Right they're. Going to be about 8 1/2 to 9.
33:58
There we go. That's my thing.
33:59
Do the math and when the math don't math y'all go.
34:02
Have to deal with Brent Frye next year.
34:03
We can be out on him at this year and we can still talk about
34:06
these guys and beating. Happy for our players but he
34:09
going to be there next. Year.
34:10
Look, if it gets bad, bad. Then again, the chips will fall,
34:13
we'll get fired in mid-october and everything will happen.
34:16
But. But it ain't gonna get bad bad
34:18
till November. Well, now if you, if, if you, if
34:22
you are, oh, this bad, bad. If you only have two wins and
34:26
it's the middle of October, that's when it gets bad, bad.
34:29
But the whole thing is you got to get rid of wit first.
34:32
That's what I'm saying. That's when you fire wit like
34:34
you've If you know that bad in mid-october, you're firing wit
34:37
so you can hire a new coach. Urban Meyer ain't coming here.
34:40
Android ain't even putting that up there.
34:42
What he said Urban Meyer. He said.
34:45
Urban Meyer, you going to get on his ass?
34:46
We got a better chance of getting Michael Meyer than Urban
34:49
Meyer. That's what I say all.
34:53
Right, as usual, it's always fun.
34:56
We also had our big screeners coming up.
34:59
If somebody rode with Tally last week, you ought to made yourself
35:04
some money. Alone, dog.
35:07
Brian, Brian, you damn it, we will run it up here.
35:10
Current records will be showed every week.
35:12
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
35:13
Because I'm. It wasn't a good week for me.
35:15
It wasn't a good week for. Me wasn't a good week.
35:16
Me and Shelton, we're just average players here.
35:19
We're just doing things. And you know, this is a weird
35:22
slate week because there's one big, big game out there, but
35:26
there's a lot of other intriguing games, like
35:29
intriguing, some rivalry games, but just intriguing games.
35:34
I went with the Big 1, though. It will be right over there on
35:38
Saturday night as the Hokies take the big screen behind me as
35:43
Michigan and Underwood, who did not look like a freshman on
35:46
Saturday, go in to Bootersuna Country playing Oklahoma.
35:52
Oklahoma laying 5 1/2. I'm going to go Oklahoma here.
36:00
More for the home field advantage than anything and for
36:06
the fact that Brent Venables is on the hot seat.
36:09
We we talked about Brent Pry on the hot seat.
36:11
Oklahoma got the money to fire their coach, buy them out and go
36:13
higher than you coach. I think Oklahoma wins this one
36:17
good game. I think it's going to be a good
36:18
game, like a touchdown win for them, which covers the 5 1/2
36:23
Shelton. Yeah, I'm going to go oh, you.
36:26
I think they're I think they're better than people think.
36:29
And I also think it's kind of similar to a similar situation
36:33
to Vt where you got a coach under a lot of pressure to win.
36:35
So I think they'll get kind of a, you know, sort of a a much
36:39
needed win relative to you to kind of kind of where they're at
36:42
as a program against, against Michigan at home.
36:46
Tally. We going Michigan, baby.
36:49
We going Michigan because they keep coming in Virginia taking
36:52
players. And that player was.
36:55
That player was right above here on the Friday night and the
37:01
truth is he lost to the high school local and they ain't good
37:06
at football. So and I know Luisa is a smaller
37:10
school Brian, but still if you got the number 4 running back in
37:13
the whatever he is in the country and you can't beat
37:15
Godwin. Well, you still got to block.
37:20
It's true like. At the end of the day, like if,
37:25
if you're not blocking that, that running backs only going to
37:27
be able to do so much. Hey, we didn't block this.
37:31
We didn't block for certain running backs in the 2000 and
37:33
they still got like 1000 yards so.
37:34
Yeah, but it's relative, man. Like the the gaps in high
37:37
school, they swing real big. It's not like a bad offensive
37:42
line in college is only marginally worse than an average
37:46
offensive line. So it can get a little crazy
37:50
there. But yeah, I've got Michigan
37:52
here. I like what they look like so
37:55
far. I I saw the the Brent Venables
38:01
thing getting passed around. I came back through.
38:04
I was like, all right, hang on, hang on.
38:06
Oh my. God.
38:09
Those players are just lucky that they didn't catch odds with
38:12
each other while they while that was said, because ain't no way
38:15
they would have made it at that press conference without Don
38:19
anyway. That's what I got.
38:20
I got Michigan here. He's got Michigan.
38:23
Let's go next. What game?
38:26
Oh UVANC, tally your game. Yeah, 2 opponents.
38:32
We got it. We got to see this year.
38:35
Not saying I like either one, but I got UVA winning this one.
38:41
UVA takes you from that. OK, OK.
38:46
I've got State winning this one. I I think these two teams aren't
38:49
that much different on paper and I don't think that NC State's
38:54
going to run away with this one. I think it is going to be about
38:56
A1 score game, but I think they're at least going to cover
38:58
that 2 1/2 at home. I think State covers the 2 1/2.
39:03
State unfortunately had to play ECU, who was in their Super Bowl
39:07
last weekend or last Thursday night.
39:10
We know how that goes with the with the G5 opponents.
39:14
And clearly Coastal is one of those places that it's set up to
39:19
get rated every of the year. Like seriously, because it's
39:26
going to be kids who can't get into certain schools or lower
39:29
two stars who are athletic. They're going to go to Coastal.
39:33
They're going to do something freaky and it's going to be
39:35
like, I know he ain't playing because he hurt Braden Bennett
39:37
or that D line kid or those other kids.
39:40
I think that's what I'm going to say.
39:42
Coastal is next year, Coastal will be good.
39:44
Then the year after that, they'll lose everybody and suck
39:46
ass again. NC State by 10.
39:52
Yeah, I'll, I'll take, I will take NC State, I think.
39:55
I think you guys do for a stinker and I like them at home.
39:59
UVA is due for a stinker. They've done a lot of that in
40:01
the last like, half decades. Yeah, Shelton, you are up next.
40:06
Yes, I went with the appropriately named game El
40:10
Asico between Iowa and Iowa State.
40:14
The the nickname derived it derived from the horrid lack of
40:18
offense that always happens in this game.
40:20
But we should do see some cool defensive and special teams
40:23
plays. So in this game, Iowa State -3
40:26
1/2 I will take the Cyclones. Bam Talley.
40:32
I'm going to Iowa State. I've only watched them play.
40:34
I haven't watched Iowa play. And not saying they were great,
40:38
but I like what I seen out of them, so I'm going to take Iowa
40:40
State. Brian Siegler.
40:44
I'm going to Iowa here. There's not really any reason
40:47
here. I'm just vibes.
40:49
I, I, I think I was going to be come to play with this one and
40:53
I'm not sure exactly what we can expect there.
40:55
So I'll take the I'll take the Hawkeyes here.
40:59
He will take the Hawkeyes. I am going to take the Cyclones
41:04
by 3 1/2. I think they're set up to make
41:07
another good run this year. The game overseas against Kansas
41:10
State, by the way, over under. Anybody want to guess what it is
41:14
for this one? 34 1/2 I was.
41:17
Going to say 2028. It's over 40 this year, y'all,
41:22
It's 41 1/2. So clearly Brian and Tally are
41:25
going to call their bookie and say they ain't scoring 40
41:28
points. You seen these two teams play.
41:30
Hammer the under. Hammer the under.
41:34
So there, that is last but not least.
41:36
Brian, where are you going? We're going to Louisville, man.
41:40
We're we got the good old Jamie Dukes heading down there to
41:45
Louisville, taking on the Cardinals.
41:47
Cardinals 13 1/2 favorite at home there at that's a little
41:52
too rich for my blood. JMU is definitely, I think going
41:55
to be the best team in the Sunbelt this year.
41:58
I think this may be one of the more talented teams they've had
42:01
in the last few years. I think they're going to make
42:04
this a close one. I think it's going to be about a
42:05
10 point loss for the Dukes, but I'll I'll take JMU here.
42:10
I'm going to go oppo of you and not so fast.
42:13
I if anything, Jeff Braun can score points and anytime he
42:17
plays like AG5 school, it feels like he can just put up points.
42:21
I'm I'm, I think, I think it's, it's one of those where it's,
42:25
it's like it's 10 as we go into the fourth quarter and then they
42:29
hit The Jets and win by 17. OK, I was.
42:31
Going to say if this was 14 in the hook would you have bit?
42:35
14 in the hook would have been tough.
42:37
I'll ask you to pick another game.
42:39
Game. I.
42:41
Can't do this, Sheldon. Who you got?
42:44
Yeah, I definitely think Lowell's going to win.
42:46
I'd say probably by ten. I thought it was kind of an
42:48
abnormally large spread. But again, trust Vegas.
42:52
Vegas always knows. I just, I just think Jimmy will
42:55
do just quite enough to cover. I'm going Louisville and Brian
43:01
said they're going to win by 10. Why not win by four more 14?
43:05
That's all I. Think oh man.
43:08
So there are all of our picks for big screeners a lot of other
43:12
good games to keep an eye on on Saturday.
43:16
I know we're not playing on this year.
43:17
Illinois Duke could be tricky. Illinois is like ranked in the
43:21
top ten probably for the first time in maybe 15-16 years.
43:27
When what Juice. Remember Juice Wells?
43:30
Was that his name? Juice Wells took him to the Rose
43:33
Bowl years ago. Boston College.
43:38
Juice Williams. Juice Williams, How did I say
43:40
wells? I got it on there.
43:42
Jews. Wells was the wide receiver.
43:44
It was at South Carolina, then went to Old Hiss last year.
43:47
He is all over it, all over it, all my fruit.
43:52
So boys, y'all got anything else y'all want to add before we wrap
43:55
this up on this wonderful Wednesday night?
43:59
Fuck country music and beat bandy is it?
44:04
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