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The Boys Season 4 Mid-Season Recap | Review of Inside Out 2 & X-Men 97 · The Recess Bell

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  This production is brought to you by the Recess Bell. Oh hi, everybody,
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  this is Film Real right here on the Recess Bell, and I'm joined
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  with the very own creator of this great network that we have. Josh,
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  how are you doing? Pal? I am it's gonna be weird since I
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  own the company to say it's such an honor to be on your show justin,
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  But I mean, listen, I think it's this is the nineteen for
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  twentieth episode. I'm happy that Listen, anybody that doesn't know, I've never
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  been the biggest movie buff, especially growing up. My parents were very restrictive
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  from what they allowed me to consume. So I'm happy that I'm starting to
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  catch up on going to the movies and certain TV shows now. So I'm
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  happy that we have some common ground on things to talk about today. Yeah,
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  You've honestly disgusted me quite a few times. I'm like, have you
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  seen this? You're like, what, you never seen this movie or that
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  movie or there. But there's always time to catch up in obviously, you
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  know, even as you know somebody that watches a lot of movies, there's
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  hundreds and thousands of classic films that I've yet to see. So you know,
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  you know, you still have plenty of life to live to watch some
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  of those classes. I'm definitely enjoying the catching up process, like anybody that
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  you know, my friends. I think I mentioned to y' all the other
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  day, like I was at the movies like twice or three times last week,
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  watching some new watching some like Old One not old Ones, some sequels
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  or pre what was it now, the fourth Bad Boys I watched the other
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  day, Like I'm enjoying going on HBO, Max and Disney Plus and and
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  all these websites and platform stars, and I'm really enjoying the catching up process.
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  It's cool. It's like it's taking me back to like what I would
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  have had as the childhood if I wasn't raised by like I don't know,
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  sociopath. I'm very envious of the fact that you get to watch some of
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  these movies for the first time. I wish I could go back and watch
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  something, you know, like Jurassic Park or Star Wars for the first time.
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  Would be something I would love to do. I still there's a lot
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  of movies I wish I could watch for the first time, like back in
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  the day, Like I know, I feel like my favorite movie was one
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  of my favorite movies that I know. It's gonna sound corny, but like
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  do Whiz My Car? When I first watched that one. Oh yeah,
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  By the way, Corey David in the house always representing the dude wears my
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  car. I think this is the fourth reference that we've had on several shows
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  talking about dude's my car. It's a great movie. But out of all
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  the movies, you know you're a good fellas your citizen kinges, Corey always
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  goes back to dude, where's my car? There's another underrated movie that nobody
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  has probably ever seen except for me. It's called Replicate. Replicate. I've
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  never even heard of replicates. Is there anybody remotely famous in this one?
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  Uh? I feel like the guy who plays There's a lot of just bizarre
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  movies out there. I watched the movie a few years ago called Wraith The
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  Wraith, and it starts Charlie Sheen and he dies and then he gets reborn
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  into a car that they can't they can't be a room. It's a real
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  movie. There's there's a lot of bizarre stuff out there. I mean there's
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  Cinema has been around for well over one hundred years, so every idea has
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  pretty much been done. And that's one of the big issues I've had with
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  Hollywood in recent years is the fact that everything is a reboot, a sequel,
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  or remake, and there's very few original films out there, and the
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  ones that are original that are actually really good, unfortunately don't get the press
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  and aren't being seen by the masses. You know. You know. One
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  of the last movies that I've seen that was like I was impressed with,
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  like the plot and everything, was they cloned Tyrone on Netflix. I've seen
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  that. I didn't think it was gonna be I didn't I didn't have like
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  any like preconceived like notions going into it, but it turned out to be
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  good. One movie that I will never watch it I'm still protesting is to
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  this day, what's the Society of Magic Heroes? Oh? Yeah, I've
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  never watched that movie because it's something that was not problemsed. I'm thinking thing
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  Black People's Uh, Harry Potter. It did not. It did not turn
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  out that like, it did not turn out that way. I'm shocked out
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  of all those parody films that like The Wayne's Brothers Dead, they didn't do
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  a black Harry Potter film. That's what that they hear in this pot now's
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  your chance to go do it and just gotta change his name a little bit.
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  That and Madam Webb, with two movies I had not I've decided I'm
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  not. I did a review of Madam Webb. I believe on this film
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  real you know show and one of the worst movies, but still had a
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  fun time with it. That's the thing with movies, you know, they
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  could be so bad that they're good. I can find usually something entertaining in
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  anything, whether it's you know, uh, music that's being used in the
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  movie, maybe an actress is really beautiful and you could just sort of watched
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  for her beauty, or you know, sometimes they're just so laughably bad and
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  they're trying to be good good, but they're just horrendous. And I felt
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  that way with Madame Webb. You had the good looking chicks and it was
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  just a laughably bad everything. Story, acting, just jack, just just
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  everything that combined. Its just a complete piece of garbage. But Josh,
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  you mentioned, uh, you watched a few movies in theater, so you
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  watched The Bad Boys for. I watched The Bad Boys for I thought it
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  was pretty fun. What did you think of it? I definitely saw it
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  that same way. I think that first off, the plot line was good.
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  I love Martin Lawrence's performance. Absolutely love this performance. Yeah, you
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  know who still showing that one. Reggie. Yes, I'm not gonna lie
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  slowly petitioned for me. Let's get Reggie his on solo fie. That's how
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  it starts though. That's why I like what certain uh peel like talented people
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  and thinkers can do with movies and shows, because ain't nobody thinking about Reggie
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  going into two Bad Boys for but they kind of planted to see Like,
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  Okay, if y'all like this character enough, maybe a spin off can be
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  an option in the future like that. I like stuff like that. Is
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  this gonna be controversial with me saying that? Yeo, I think we all
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  forgot about slap? Yeah, there was a moment Will Smith there was a
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  slap scene and Chris Rock I saw, acted or reacted very adversely to it,
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  like all that that ship wasn't funny. Oh he's still hurt over it?
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  Yeah no, I can't. I can pull up the report right now.
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  He was going off on it, saying like, oh, he's trying
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  to move on, and Will's trying to turn it into a joke, but
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  it ain't nothing funny, but is kind of funny. It am I rod,
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  But did you not have a whole comedy special addressing this well, you
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  know that that's that's him. It was different, It was different, and
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  he botched the end of that comedy special. That was so disappointing, becau
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  cause you can't do a good comedy special if you're too emotional with it.
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  If the if the center of your entire comedy special is something that you're intensely
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  emotional about. I feel like the best comedians like, yeah, you're gonna
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  be passionate about it, but you know, emotional. And also it was
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  live, so like a lot of these specials, obviously, they usually tape
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  like, you know, two nights in a row, and then they pick
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  and choose which joke to go with one night. I felt I thought Marlon
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  Wayne's had a better comedy special dealing with addressed in the slash. Well,
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  Marlon Wayne's is critically slept On throughout his career. He'd been all the Waynes.
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  Damon Waynes is one of my favorites. Okay, Damon had a movie
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  Major Paine, which is one of my favorite. Damon Wayne's is cool,
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  Keenan is cool, Marlon is cool, but it's full. It's a good
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  fall off a like Sean. Sean was good in The Wayne's Brothers Show,
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  but after that, like movies was I believe he was on a movie called
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  Off. I'm trying to think it was like it was on Mike marsh or
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  something like it was in the Scary movie films as well. You know,
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  Marlon Waynes is in a pretty good basketball movie called sixth Man. You've ever
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  seen that way? His brother dies and then he's a ghost and sort of
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  like angels in the outfield where the Ghat is helping the players out. That
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  was that. I feel like that in the movie Senses in Him. Yeah,
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  him and David that came around like the same time, and I'm like,
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  he's funny in both of them, but one has a little more serious
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  under tone with the brother dying and everything like that. But since it was
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  funny, yeah, yeah, No, Wayne's had a decent run. I
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  don't really think he's doing too much these days. Marlon Wayne's right as far
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  as I mean he's it feels like he got like a lifetime deal with Netflix
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  where he's at. And then you got Damon Wayne's He's coming out with a
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  new show with his son, Damion Wayne, Damon and Damon Wayne's I liked.
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  I liked Bad Boys for I think some of the action sequences hit and
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  I definitely would give it a positive review, especially if you're a fan of
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  the franchise. Just to get back to that, was there another film that
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  you saw, Josh? The last movie I saw, I went with one
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  of my friends. We saw Inside Out? Was this with a female friend?
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  It was Yeah, what did you think of Inside Out too? We
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  could we could skip head to that one because I saw that one in theaters
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  as well. I'm not gonna lie. I'm probably the only when I did
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  not see it yet. Yeah, because right now it's about to cross a
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  billion dollars. It's gonna end up being the highest grossing movie of the year.
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  I remember watching Inside Out one. I saw Inside Out one. But
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  I think it's important for Josh, who's a little bit younger than both of
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  us, because I think it's perfect for for that age. You know what
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  do you Yeah? Because it's it's like pure nostalgia for you. Because this
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  is like when Toy Story came back with Toy Story three. You know,
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  this is something over a decade or so. What are you looking at.
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  I'm not in the Toy Story. Well, no, you're in the Toy
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  Story realm. I'm saying, you're not in the Inside Out. You're probably
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  a little older when the first Inside Out came out. Josh as it was,
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  was a young kid when that one came out. So when the sequel's
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  coming out, it's gonna play well to the you know, the early twenties.
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  Thought I had to come out with twenties. I think it's fourteen,
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  twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. Yeah, really, yeah, definitely close to
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  a decade ago. At this high school when it came out, I was
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  just graduating high school. So yeah, twenty fifteen's when I graduated high school.
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  Wow, I was already out. I was a couple of years.
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  Well, that's what Justin's saying, Like, I guess it was just well,
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  here's the thing. I with the first one, yes, it was
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  a Disney Pixar movie, but even with the first one, I was surprised
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  by the level of depth that it carried because it goes into like emotions and
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  all the things that could combined to make us us right. I think the
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  second movie, for some reason, even though I already had watched the first
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  one and I already knew what kind of the overarching idea was. It Definitely
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  I was justice floored because they introduced obviously the new emotion slash characters like anxiety,
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  as as as Riley's entering puberty. Now, yeah, it touched upon
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  things that I don't know. It's got to be weird to be a parent
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  and bring your kid to something like this, even though this is not crazy
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  crazy, but they are introducing, you know, puberty, and maybe that's
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  something you don't want to deal with, you know. He just sort of
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  want maybe a teacher to deal with that, or a doctor or maybe your
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  mom. Like if you're a father and you're just like, maybe the wife
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  could take care of it. But that is some of the beauty of movies.
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  They can explain things for you. If you don't want to explain death,
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  you could just show them like the Lion King, and that could give
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  them, you know, a baseline as to you know what death is.
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  You know what's crazy? Showty. I went with shout out, Debbie,
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  I'm sure I'll be doing a podcast with her soon. She keeps badgering me
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  to get on a podcast, so I'll make that happen one day. But
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  she brought up the fact that she was talking about her or her niece,
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  and like, oh, my brother didn't want to bring her to this movie.
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  They said it would be too mature. And I even thought to myself,
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  having watched the first one, I'm like, too mature, Like how
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  and then I the movie started, and then they went to puberty and going
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  on, I'm like, ah, makes sense, that's why they said that.
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  Yeah, I don't know how well this would with somebody that's like five
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  or six. I think they would like it. And that's the beauty with
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  a lot of animated stuff. There's something for everybody. You know. When
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  I was a kid, and I've mentioned this before, but like you know,
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  the Simpsons, I would laugh at certain things, and then my dad
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  would be laughing at other things. And then as I get older, I
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  get those things. So I think maybe a five six year old, you
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  know, he'd laugh, oh anger, that's funny, you know, But
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  as far as going through puberty, five year old six year old boy,
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  that's not really gonna play well too. But I think they'll still enjoy it.
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  But I think this movie's really gonna hit for like eleven year old,
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  twelve year old, fourteen year old girls. This is something that's gonna work
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  for them. But then also it's gonna work for the people that were seven
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  eight years old when that first movie came out, and now they're seeing it,
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  you know, when they're in their late teens or when they're turning into
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  adults, and they can even show, you know, for younger parents.
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  You know, if you're twenty five, twenty six and you have a kid,
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  you could show your kids. That's the beauty of a lot of these
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  uh you know sequels, Even though I crap on the lack of originality,
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  it's something you could pass down to other generations. Like, oh, I
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  used to watch this show when I was a kid. Now I'm showing,
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  you know, the Ninja Turtles to my my grandson. As crazy as that
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  sounds, I'm not my grandson. I'm just saying what Ninja Turtles. You
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  could show any Ninja Turtles to any kid. Do you have had the old
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  Do you have had the old ones that came out on the vhs? Of
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  course from Burger King, that's the og Ones that I grew up with turtles
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  in the Hasha Turtle Power. But yeah, I mean my nephew likes Ninja
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  Turtles. But in theory, like you know, Ninja Turtles have been around.
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  Now this is forty years, you know, since the creation of that
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  comic book. So in theory, you know, someone who was fifteen years
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  old when they read that comic book, they could be showing their kid,
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  and now they could be showing their grandkid. And as far as with this
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  inside out goes, I thought it did a great job with you know,
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  with explaining things but not being too preachy, and that is something that yeah,
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  Pixar and Disney in general has had a big issue with lately. You
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  know, Bob Igar, who is the CEO of Disney, He's he's talked
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  about how what do you say as a clown, I just think, well,
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  Disney as a sports fan, what ESPN has turned into. We've talked
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  about it often off the microphone. Yeah, each that's why I say that
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  we had a long, in depth conversation about the ESPN. But yeah,
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  he did mention that because of the lack of success of movies that Disney has
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  had, Disney last year had its first year in quite some time where it
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  didn't have a film gross over a billion dollars. A lot of their movies
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  completely bombed. The new Marvel's movie was a big letdown. You know,
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  they're animated movies in recent years, whether it's light Year or whatever. Pixar
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  film in recent years hasn't been successful, and he basically said this year that
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  we are not gonna do this messaging thing anymore. We're just gonna focus on
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  entertaining. And in one sense, I get it, you know, you
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  don't want to alienate a group of people, but it's also like it takes
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  away a lot of creativity and storytelling that you could put out there. If
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  you're just gonna put out generic stuff, you know, you should be able
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  to push the envelope. So it's a double edged short. You know,
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  it could be awkward to you know, explain to kids certain things, certain
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  aspects that they do introduce in movies, and maybe it shouldn't be in a
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  kid's movie some of the stuff. But then also you're taking away storytelling and
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  I'm not for you know, censorship and stuff like that. But he's the
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  head of Disney, so you can say whatever and do whatever you wants.
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  Yeah, the company is only as good as history is shown, especially in
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  America, They're only as good as their CEO is so I think that's when
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  you look at Disney and n ESPN, which is under the umbrella of Disney.
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  You can draw your own opinions. But in the case of Inside Out,
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  too, I think in terms of what your point was about sequels justin
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  about you know, they're just often a money grab and there's no real continuity
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  or feeling or connection to the previous movie. I think this one is a
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  big outlier in that regard because they attacked a whole new topic. It's a
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  topic that everybody can relate to, and I think part of what Bob Iger
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  was saying was that like not being too preachy, they attacked the topic that
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  we've all gone through puberty, going into high school, leaving your old friends
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  and trying to make new friends. Like that's a sense of anxiety that that
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  brought me. I think that's kind of why the movie resonated with myself so
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  much. It was a very simple story if you really think about it's something
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  that could have worked in a television show, like a half hour story.
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  It wasn't this over the top adventure. You know, on the outside,
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  you know what Riley was dealing with. It was very simple. It was
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  just her at a hockey camp. Inside obviously with the emotions they're putting on
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  their own epic story, but again, it was very simple, very simplistic
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  that a kid could just actually understand what's going on, not having to ask
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  a million questions. There are a lot of stupid people that watch movies.
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  I've I was watching a movie yesterday where a girl it was the New Quiet
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  Place movie, and we will get back to inside out, but this girl
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  has like a patch on our body because she's dealing with medical issues. And
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  I just hear this old guy, what's that? And then you just hear
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  it's a patch. What's the patch for? She's sick? I'm like,
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  you couldn't figure this out? And the guys are screaming loud. It's just
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  it fathoms me that someone in their fifties and sixties couldn't understand a simple thing
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  like a patch is helping this woman healing her her medical issue. And I
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  felt inside out, simplistic story with layers to it. Yeah, but you
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  mentioned that, you know, this story doesn't feel forced and that was a
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  big issue that I had with Toy Story four that just felt like a complete
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  money grab. This is something that they could do four more of these.
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  They could do five more of these movies. You could tell Riley's story going
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  into college. How about this though, how about Riley giving birth? Think
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  about all the weird shit that could happen with that, you know, different
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  emotions that then you could get her even older, like a menopause emotion,
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  and then yeah, they could keep going with dementia. I'm not even joking,
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  like yeah, yeah, I mean she already forgot about bingbong in that
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  first one. I think that this is something that could legitimately go on for
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  seven eight years. You could tell this girl's entire life, and then you
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  could tell her kid's life. Like, this could be something, but it's
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  gonna get to something that we're gonna be talking about later on. Some things
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  just overstay their welcome. But I think this is something that I'd like to
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  see more of this character. I think Riley's a very likable character. They
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  didn't hold anything back, you know, they had a positive message and they
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  also talked about how you have to embrace some of your negative feelings. In
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  life and that's important you can't just put aside. I mean, that was
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  the main takeaway that I took from this movie. And I think that was
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  the obvious point, like, you know, the joy is trying to hide
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  like all of the faults in Riley. And then eventually she's like, no,
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  you need to know that you fuck up in life sometimes and you can't
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  forget that, and you can use that to grow and become a better person.
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  I mean, that's a great message. That was one of my big
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  takeaways too. And you know, you both of you know I'm a big
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  mental health abuff. So this project I started on the recessbell dot com,
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  the Healing Journey. It was funny I started this project and then I believe
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  I watched Inside Out Too the day after I put the first post out.
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  I'm up to part two now it's a fifty part thing, but not too
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  much on that. But when I watched Inside Out Too, it's funny because,
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  like you said, justin in Riley's mind, it was just a very
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  simple, you know, Okay, I'm going to hockey camp my friends.
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  There there was like some miscommunication with her friends. They're going to a different
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  school. She's going to this other school. So her childhood friend's longtime friends
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  she's gonna wind up breaking up with, but they're together at this camp.
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  But then, you know, when puberty comes into play and all the hormones,
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  I mean, men, women, we deal with it in very different
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  ways, yeah, but similar ways too. So I think, just yeah,
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  very simple story, just a girl at hockey camp, right, trying
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  to you know, make new friends and navigate the relationship with her old ones.
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  But inside, like I remember that stage in my life and just all
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  the emotions, and anxiety was a huge one, and the all the emotions
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  I think they introduced four well not I think I know they introduced four new
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  emotions. Anxiety with the big one, but envy, embarrassment, and I
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  think I knew he was the other one. That's pretty much like, oh
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  nothing matters, yeah, yeah, yeah, cares. That's all stuff.
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  I definitely related to it that we all had to w when we were jumping,
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  At least when I jumped from elementary school to middle school. We were
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  introduced to a whole new group of friends, and then maybe you had to
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  stop being friends with some of the friends that you were friends with because it
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  might have been embarrassing to still be friends with this friend. I remember having
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  that, and it's actually one of the things I regret the most in life.
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  I was at a point in my life where I was very friendly with
• 21:07
  a lot of individuals in high school. You know, I was friends with
• 21:11
  the stoners. I was friends with like the cooler kids, and then I
• 21:15
  had my comic book nerd friends that I was into, and I felt like,
• 21:19
  even though the cooler kids liked me to an extent, I had to
• 21:25
  force my way into their friendships. I can remember calling them, and you
• 21:29
  know, they'd ignore me from time to time, and they'd have a party
• 21:32
  and I wouldn't be invited, and I just kept on pushing it and pushing
• 21:36
  it. And now I wish I could go back in time and just go
• 21:40
  stop it. Stop trying to be friends with these people that don't want to
• 21:45
  be your friend to the extent that you want to be their friend. Go
• 21:48
  hang out with those comic book nerds. Go be with the friends that want
• 21:52
  to be with you. And I think that if that movie, if this
• 21:55
  movie can teach that lesson to somebody, or if I could teach that lesson,
• 21:59
  if someone listening to this, or if I could teach that to my
• 22:02
  niece and nephew, which is something that you know, I plan on doing
• 22:06
  teaching them not just that, but all different things that where I messed up
• 22:08
  in life. I feel like I can help people and be like, listen,
• 22:12
  don't do this, don't do that. Yeah, focus on this,
• 22:15
  focus on that. So to put this in a movie form, with a
• 22:19
  kid's movie, I think is a really really good thing. And you mentioned
• 22:22
  some of these new emotions. I thought the voice casting was tremendous standing.
• 22:27
  The girl who plays anxiety Maya Hawk. You know, people say, oh,
• 22:30
  she might be a nepo baby because her dad is Ethan Hawk and her
• 22:33
  mom's Uma Thurman, but yeah, well that's definitely qualified. Yeah yeah.
• 22:38
  But she's talented though, and that's the I know, that's something we're gonna
• 22:41
  get to on the Recess Bell. We're gonna be talking about nepotism with some
• 22:48
  basketball news that was going on, so we're gonna get to that. But
• 22:52
  also like, there are really good second generation talents, whether it's in wrestling
• 22:57
  Corey, you know, think about Brett the Hitman and Heart and Charlotte Flair
• 23:02
  or the rock Roman reigns. Uh and then in music, there's there's plenty
• 23:07
  of musicians whose you know, parents were once famous, not to the except
• 23:11
  of wrestling. I'm trying to think of some good artists. I mean,
• 23:15
  I know a few that are mainstream. It's his who is his parents?
• 23:19
  Uh Berry Gordy who owned Moti. I know Norah Jones is uh dad was
• 23:26
  in the music business. And uh I love The Bend the Wallflowers. The
• 23:33
  dad of the leader of that is Bob Dylan. But even in in movies,
• 23:36
  you know, there are talented people. Just because you have the opportunity
• 23:38
  and you were raised this way, you could still take advantage of it and
• 23:41
  be successful. What's what's the person who was the main actor in Madame Webb
• 23:48
  Dakota Dakota Johnson, her dad Don Johnson. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 23:53
  I mean anybody else's kids? Oh yeah, I mean there's a million times.
• 24:00
  I mean we're gonna be talking about the Boys later on and Hue in
• 24:03
  that show. Both both the parents are famous, you know, actors.
• 24:07
  So, but he's good and there are and I think Maya Hawk is actually
• 24:11
  a really talented actress. And I thought she did a great job in voice
• 24:15
  acting. And this is something that I talked about on a previous episode voice
• 24:18
  acting and the fact that you don't need these A list stars to bring in
• 24:22
  the money. Now, Maya Hawk's relatively famous. She's one of the background
• 24:26
  characters of Sorts and Stranger Things, But she's not Scarlett Johanson, she's not
• 24:32
  Emma Stone, she's not winning Oscars, she's not the main lead in anything
• 24:36
  really. But it just goes to show you that you don't need to cast
• 24:41
  those people with animated movies. Kids are very simple. They like good stories,
• 24:45
  they like good characters, they like fun. They don't care that Justin
• 24:48
  Timberlake's the voice of a troll. They don't care that Will Smith is a
• 24:52
  fish. They just want good content. And I think casting you know Amy
• 24:56
  Poehler, who's just a good actress and funny and it has a good cartoon
• 25:00
  voice, I think I think we're seeing the benefits right now with the amount
• 25:03
  of money that Inside Out is making. And they didn't have to pay twenty
• 25:07
  five million dollars thirty million dollars to hire Chris Hemsworth or whomever's you know,
• 25:12
  Tom Cruise an A list star. So I really dug the voice acting.
• 25:18
  But as far as just cartoons go in general before we move on to some
• 25:22
  of the boys, and we're also gonna talk a little bit about the X
• 25:26
  Men. Corey h Do you guys have a favorite Pixar movie or even a
• 25:30
  favorite non Pixar, non Disney movie, because you know, every animated movie
• 25:34
  isn't as far as animated movies go, every animated movie is not Pixar Disney.
• 25:38
  Is there one that jumps to mind that's like, that's that was my
• 25:41
  shit when I was a kid. I always favorite Pixar movie favorite picks.
• 25:51
  I don't know that. I gotta be Toy Story too. Oh, I
• 25:52
  thought you were gonna I thought for sure you're gonna say Sausage Party, Corey.
• 25:56
  What. I don't know. I just got that five from you.
• 26:00
  Do you get the sausage party vibe from Corey? I just kind of think
• 26:07
  that. I thought that's where he was going. I loved I mean,
• 26:10
  it was a dope movie. If I'm going with just Pixar in general,
• 26:14
  I'm going with the first Toy Story, but I think the first three Choice
• 26:15
  Story movies are perfection. He was great. He was great, Like my
• 26:21
  favorite, one of my favorite, my favorite to my favorite scene was when
• 26:26
  Jesse, you know, when she's telling her story, and it's one of
• 26:29
  the most beautiful scenes. Obod he loves me. If you don't cry,
• 26:33
  something's wrong. I get a little choked out. Well when Tim Allen and
• 26:38
  Tom Hanks, you know who are buzzing and what he when they watched the
• 26:41
  movie for the first time at the premiere, they both looked at each other
• 26:45
  and they were both crying like they because they didn't see the finished product yet.
• 26:48
  And that is a very emotional scene. And yeah, that's that's the
• 26:52
  beauty of picture. They always have that moment in one of their movies.
• 26:57
  I don't know why, but like the toy stories, music depart like the
• 27:02
  name when the what's his name? Randy Newman is Yeah, Randy Newman,
• 27:04
  beautiful, amazing songwriter, screaming clearly, Uh will go remember small people,
• 27:19
  got no reason? Short people? Yeah, how do you make a song
• 27:25
  like that? He SE's into the irony and satire. He's a he's a
• 27:29
  great songwriter. And he wrote that song you know, when Somebody Loved Me.
• 27:32
  He didn't sing it obviously a woman saying it. But music is very
• 27:33
  important when it comes to movies. If you don't have the right, he's
• 27:37
  he was like, his music is like so tied to that franchise. Yeah,
• 27:41
  yeah, he and he also scores a lot of movies, like he
• 27:44
  did a famous baseball movie, The Natural. He doesn't just do picture movies.
• 27:48
  But was also I know, I know, Josh, you know one
• 27:51
  of his songs at least the I Love l A. You know that that's
• 27:55
  uh Randy Newman right there. But music is very very important. I don't
• 27:59
  think people understand and what that can do to a movie if you don't have
• 28:03
  the right emotional you know, just companion to go along with the movie.
• 28:08
  What's your favorite animated show? Animated show, I like, like like underrated.
• 28:15
  When that people would suspect that you like, I mean my underrated,
• 28:18
  I would go with that is tough. What do you got with yours,
• 28:25
  Jimmy. That was a little after my time I watched it. It was
• 28:29
  good. It was good as far as you know. I mean, I
• 28:32
  love Hey Arnold, I love the Simpsons, King of the Hill, South
• 28:34
  Park, All Doug is Doug will be probably my underrated and Doug. I
• 28:41
  remember my father talking to me about Doug and he said this, He's specifically
• 28:45
  said, like this is a good show because it talked about a lot of
• 28:48
  the things that actually inside out talks about talks about your emotions and like not
• 28:52
  fitting in and worrying, and he would go into like these little skits of
• 28:56
  like his imagination. Yeah, and he my dad was like, this character
• 29:00
  reminds me of you. I remember, I'm specifically telling me that. And
• 29:04
  I think children's entertainment should be something that parents could like, but it also
• 29:11
  shouldn't be dumbed down for kids. It shouldn't be something because a lot of
• 29:15
  kids are a lot smarter than people give them credit for, and they could
• 29:18
  see right through certain things. And as far as cartoon shows, I mean,
• 29:22
  I love the Batman Show, Superman, Justice League, King of the
• 29:25
  Hill, Animniacs, all that jazz. But as far as movies go that
• 29:30
  aren't Disney Pixar, I'm gonna go with The Iron Giant as one of my
• 29:36
  favorites and another one that's very emotional, very very emotional. Towards the end,
• 29:41
  Josh, did you have a favorite Pixar film or did you have a
• 29:45
  favorite non Disney animated film that jumps to mind. I'll keep it brief on
• 29:48
  the movie side, because I did have a take on the animated shows,
• 29:52
  but the Incredibles from me, I just think that did that movie. It's
• 29:57
  just like, I don't know, it just it's a great first the first
• 30:02
  incredible first first one. Yeah, the first one. It's a really good
• 30:04
  superhero movie. It's really good. It doesn't have the depth that like solid
• 30:10
  Yeah. No, I think it's very good. I just don't think it
• 30:11
  has. It doesn't have depth. It doesn't have like what up has.
• 30:15
  It doesn't have what uh you know Toy Story two has as far as like
• 30:18
  that scene where you're just like, oh but I wasn't really looking for death
• 30:22
  as oh ah, they have stretchy and bring me my super suit and all
• 30:30
  that. That's why I gravitated toys. I mean, my favorite animated movie
• 30:33
  of all time is Transformers, the movie from nineteen eighty six. There is
• 30:36
  no depth there. It is one of the dumbest movies of all time,
• 30:38
  but it is my favorite movie. And nostalgia is plays a big part into
• 30:42
  that. I'm looking at someone. I'm looking at some of these older movies.
• 30:45
  I'm like, you know, right, ratitude, I'm just looking at
• 30:48
  pixel bugs Life, No, the bug Life. I didn't really care for
• 30:52
  it. Monsters in Monsters inc Is great and that is so emotional, the
• 30:56
  whole boo thing, you know, king that's very oh Tema. I actually
• 31:02
  I might want I might need to I might need to change my pick.
• 31:04
  Surprise, surprise, because this is a movie that I didn't think I would
• 31:07
  love, but I actually love this movie. I'm trying to think, what
• 31:11
  is this. I'm trying to think, try this movie called I think it's
• 31:15
  in Kantu and Kantu and Kantu. This is with the kid he goes he
• 31:19
  like he turns into the dead, like he turns this into the dead for
• 31:22
  yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's in Kanto, in Kanto.
• 31:25
  Then there was Coco. Oh no, Coco Yo go is the movie out?
• 31:29
  Like Coco is very good. Coco is very good. No, I'm
• 31:32
  not gonna lie, like I wouldn't put it above Toy Story or two,
• 31:37
  but it's a close. It's my second. It's good. But the problem
• 31:40
  with a lot of these movies are they're so new and it's not something I
• 31:42
  grew up with. So like Josh loves The Incredible, it's because that's probably
• 31:45
  something you watch when he was really young, and that plays a big impact.
• 31:48
  Like I said, my favorite movie is Transformers. If I watched Transformers
• 31:52
  from nineteen eighty six when I was thirty years old for the first time,
• 31:55
  I'd be like, this is the fucking dumbest thing ever. No, the
• 31:57
  thing is no. I went into the movie watching that movie Coco like I'm
• 32:00
  an adult, like my niece, and my niece wants to watch the movie.
• 32:04
  You know how you don't pay attention to what but as you start watching,
• 32:07
  you start getting more and more in tune. And with the movie that
• 32:12
  just happened, you rocking. Now you're rocking with the songs. That's what
• 32:15
  made me fall in love with I love the story and the music. Well,
• 32:17
  that was one of Pixar's like last big hits or Disney's last big heads.
• 32:23
  Who came out with the movie Wish. That was a bomb, that
• 32:27
  was Disney. That was just Disney. I mean it made no money,
• 32:30
  It made no money. I thought it was terrible. Also, I hated
• 32:34
  Wish. That was like the most generic. It felt like it was an
• 32:37
  artificial intelligence, like a computer is like right, generic fucking cartoon. Did
• 32:42
  you see The East? They had what they have in it? The East?
• 32:45
  The Mickey ears at the end that the guy you know, the evil
• 32:50
  Sorcerer guy. What about him? What happens to him when he gets like
• 32:52
  sucked into like a Maria or something like that? Was he like the evil
• 32:57
  mirror from snow White? Yeah? Oh wow? Now now the DC the
• 33:02
  Disney universe is all connected. Josh, do you have a favorite cartoon show
• 33:07
  though? Well, y'all brought up Doug Doug Funny. I know for a
• 33:09
  fact if they were the show his adult life, I know he got all
• 33:12
  the hoes now Doug watch Dog though I did, I swear, I swear
• 33:16
  he does. I just have a feeling. I just feel like, listen,
• 33:21
  yo. So he didn't get with Patty, right, Yeah, but
• 33:22
  I just feel like over the course of you know, certain evolutions and things,
• 33:25
  and it's like he might have the hose right now. I don't know.
• 33:28
  I don't even even know if he made it to an adult. He
• 33:30
  was very depressed that Doug. Another cartoon story, come on, you know,
• 33:36
  but I did enjoy Doug. You you said ones that were slept on
• 33:39
  you obviously if you asked me about any type of animated show. The first
• 33:43
  dought, in my mind is going to be not the entire run, but
• 33:46
  the first three seasons of SpongeBob. A lot of people your age love the
• 33:51
  SpongeBob. I like SpongeBob, but you guys, really you know close?
• 33:53
  Do you know what close? SpongeBob? What do you call it? Close?
• 33:55
  SpongeBob Kids, Lord or the SVU that because it's the one show take
• 34:02
  because look, Laura, or to SBU's one of those shows that no matter
• 34:06
  what episode it is, you can just sit down and you can watch it.
• 34:09
  That is something that a lot of shows are missing. And we're gonna
• 34:13
  actually pivot to X Men ninety seven because that is one of those shows where
• 34:17
  you can't just put on a random episode as a formula that has been pretty
• 34:22
  popular in recent days of recent years, rather where every episode leads into the
• 34:28
  next episode, Like you can't just watch a breaking bad episode because you'll be
• 34:30
  lost. It's a continuing story. X Men ninety seven, Corey, did
• 34:35
  you end up finishing the season? I did? I did. What did
• 34:37
  you think as a whole? Because I thought it was fantastic. In fact,
• 34:42
  I think it surpassed the original series. I feel like in many ways
• 34:46
  it did. And that just was like I was just still mind bottled that
• 34:50
  they fired, like the Yeah, Bo Domeo was fired. He was the
• 34:54
  show runner, and there's no official reason as to why he got tired because
• 35:00
  he had an only fan. That's he does have an only fans, but
• 35:02
  apparently Disney knew he had an only fans prior to him he hired. You
• 35:07
  know. The dope thing about him was was like throughout the season he was
• 35:09
  giving you homework as Simons. Okay, this is how this is gonna fit
• 35:13
  well on Twitter, Like he's not associated with the show, but he was
• 35:15
  associated with the show. He had to have done something really bad Disney fire.
• 35:22
  If they are smart, they bring him back. If you can't bring
• 35:27
  him back, at least let him ghost write it or let him go somewhere
• 35:30
  else. You know that that happens from time to time. Where you know,
• 35:34
  James Gone famously got fired by Disney, then DC swooped him up,
• 35:37
  but then he came back. He came back, But now he's back with
• 35:39
  DC officially. I don't know if his brand of humor and storytelling is going
• 35:46
  to translate to something like Superman. Isn't he technically like one of the big
• 35:50
  you know, he was talking about nepotism, He's one of the biggest nepotism
• 35:52
  guys wife all his movies. But the wife is pretty talented. She's gonna
• 35:59
  be playing Sue Storm actually in the MCU, you know, the Invisible woman
• 36:06
  from the Fantastic Four, and he ain't working at Marvel no more so clearly
• 36:09
  you know she has some guy. Yeah, but yeah, that is you
• 36:14
  know, I don't know. I'm not the Listen if I became famous,
• 36:17
  or if you know, Josh or you became famous, I would hope you'd
• 36:21
  be like, listen, you know, let me help you out. What's
• 36:22
  your favorite episode of this X Men series. I thought episode five when Genosha
• 36:29
  gets you know, spoiler alert gets destroyed and Gambit sacrifices his life, that
• 36:34
  was some of the best television I've ever seen. Actually not cartoon. Yeah
• 36:39
  it was. It was really depressing and I was just sitting there watching the
• 36:45
  credits like that just happened. Yeah. Well, and they actually made a
• 36:50
  mistake with Rogue. That's one thing I want to get too quickly is the
• 36:52
  voice acting we talked about before the they I get. I get the fact
• 36:57
  that you wanted to keep the original act as, but some people's voices they
• 37:01
  they age. Sometimes you just got to say, you know, it's not
• 37:06
  working out, and yes it's sad, but you know, just to give
• 37:09
  context to Josh. So, you know, this show X Men was a
• 37:13
  show that was out over thirty years ago and they just brought it back after
• 37:16
  you know, twenty five year hiatus, and they're using a lot of the
• 37:20
  voice actors and actresses from the original series. Now, obviously these actors and
• 37:27
  actresses age where the cartoon characters don't. So you're having a woman who's in
• 37:31
  her late sixties voicing somebody that's supposed to be in their thirties, and it's
• 37:36
  not hitting. Yeah, it's very because like the character of Rogue is very
• 37:43
  She was like my biggest cartoon crush. The animation didn't do her a little.
• 37:49
  They did a little disserviance. No, they didn't as Yeah, no,
• 37:52
  they That's another thing they're taking away. You know, all these cartoon
• 37:54
  characters. They took away Lola Bunni's ass, they're taken away Rogue's ass,
• 37:59
  all the green eminem Oh, the desexualization of Lola Bunny really broke my heart
• 38:04
  right that whole movie. Don't get me started with the money that movie could
• 38:09
  have been. This is how you make Space Jam two work, then we'll
• 38:13
  finish up on Next Men. You get Michael Jordan, You do whatever the
• 38:16
  fuck you can to sign Michael Jordan to this movie. You have Lebron James,
• 38:21
  Who's like, when you think of Lebron, you think of obviously the
• 38:24
  greatness of him being a player, But I think one of the first things
• 38:28
  you think of is him joining that super team, right forming the Alliance.
• 38:32
  Wait, you would have him to be the villain. I would have him
• 38:35
  be the villain. And this would have to be a big ego check for
• 38:37
  Lebron because he'd have to turn heel and I know he doesn't want to be
• 38:40
  dislike, but you have him join the Monstars. Like, listen, if
• 38:45
  I can't win without you guys, I'm gonna join the Monstars. Then then
• 38:47
  you get you get the match up. Wait, you would make Jordan.
• 38:52
  You would make Jordan more popular lef Ron. Hey, but it's gonna make
• 38:55
  the better story everyone talks about anytime he turned on First Take or any radio
• 39:00
  show, Jordan versus Lebron, Jordan versus Lebron. They can do it in
• 39:05
  a movie, like what would I do? I've already been the villain before
• 39:08
  it didn't work out for me. Well, I think I think if he
• 39:10
  played into it. And how about this, Corey, Remember in wrestling,
• 39:15
  you play the villain really good, you end up being liked. He gets
• 39:19
  a good performance. Okay, only the only way this worked, the only
• 39:22
  way that works out is if you're doing what they're doing right now. W
• 39:24
  WI its like, Okay, Roman was the bad guy, nobody liked him,
• 39:29
  and when he tried to be good, nobody liked him. But now
• 39:31
  that he's bad guy, and now that there's a whole other group that's taking
• 39:36
  over, he can come back as the babyface. So if you're saying he
• 39:39
  joins the super team, he's the evil guy for most of the movie,
• 39:44
  or after the end he does he does a face, or in part two
• 39:46
  he's the bad guy, and then by part three you get a two picture
• 39:51
  deal out of this. Space Hime is like, okay, one time,
• 39:57
  Yeah, you get one summer off around, but I'm not gonna lie ruined
• 40:00
  it so you can't even do it that it was terrible. You can't even
• 40:01
  do that franchise. It was such a bad movie. But what I want
• 40:05
  to ask you a question about X Men ninety seven. Yeah, what did
• 40:07
  you think of, like though the very undertone, like I know some people
• 40:10
  picked up on it of a more relationship with Uhrine. Yeah, I'm all
• 40:16
  for it because X Men has always been something where they're talking about different aspects.
• 40:22
  They've always talked about the Mutants being outcasts with the beauty of the X
• 40:25
  Men, and stan Lee as the writer of that series, you know,
• 40:30
  the original comic run is he was touching upon things that couldn't be talked about,
• 40:34
  like racism. I mean he wrote this during the whole Civil rights you
• 40:37
  know uprising and you know Martin Luther King and all that stuff happening. This
• 40:42
  is when the X Men came out in the early sixties, and yeah,
• 40:45
  he used the Mutants as black people. I mean he was saying they're being
• 40:51
  outcast and not allowed to think. People always try to draw that correlation between
• 40:53
  Charge Xavier and Magneto as Malcolm Max and Martin Luther King. I mean,
• 40:59
  that's exactly what it's supposed to be, even though the Professor X Malcolm X
• 41:01
  would be the Magneto. But I mean, I so for X Men to
• 41:07
  do that, I have no issue with it. It's not it doesn't seem
• 41:10
  like it's a forced thing, like oh, we're just gonna have this to
• 41:13
  piss people off, or we're gonna have this to get controversy. No,
• 41:16
  this is on par with X Men. And the crazy thing is you and
• 41:19
  I can tell us very undertone because when I when I talked to my brother
• 41:22
  about you got that from that? I got No, I got it.
• 41:25
  Looked you didn't pick up on that. No, I definitely got that.
• 41:29
  But like the shower scene and the whole scene where he morphed into Gene and
• 41:34
  the like, she may not be able to say, but I will.
• 41:36
  Yeah, so yeah, I'm again. I think that's what I loved about
• 41:39
  X Men as I got older, is you know they're they're talking about things.
• 41:45
  They're talking about the Holocaust, anti Semitism, racism, gay rights.
• 41:50
  I mean, this is not I don't think like my four year old nephew
• 41:53
  would understand majority of what's going on with this show. You want to go
• 41:58
  take the tour, the Uber, the Uber, I mean, uh what
• 42:00
  the is it? Should? Uh? AIRBNBA, the the X Mansion.
• 42:05
  I was going. I was very tempted. I would have to find out
• 42:08
  how far it was. It's cool that virtual reality exists now in a sense
• 42:13
  that you can do these sort of things that would be that would be a
• 42:16
  smart thing for them to do is to have a VR VRD game. Yeah,
• 42:21
  explore the house. I think that that's the future of entertainment is virtual
• 42:24
  reality now, maybe thirty forty years from now when it becomes accessible and easy
• 42:29
  to program, But that's gonna be pretty wild years. I don't. I
• 42:31
  don't. I have one. It's one of the when The thing about it
• 42:36
  is though it's one of the dopest experiences, but it gets very boring very
• 42:40
  quickly. Yeah, it seems like something that would give me a headache,
• 42:44
  and I just I want it to be perfected. You know. It's like,
• 42:47
  uh, these devices that you know come out, there's bugs, there's
• 42:52
  there's no it's not up to what it's going to be ten years from now.
• 42:57
  I want it. I want it to get to the point where it
• 42:59
  plays at a piece type level. To that point it'd be perfect. Because
• 43:02
  I played the Iron Man game. Yeah. Actually I did something at the
• 43:09
  Wax Museum. I went to the Wax Museum years ago, and they had
• 43:14
  an exhibit there where you could put on your you know, VR thing,
• 43:17
  and you put on a backpack and you were a ghostbuster and you would walk
• 43:22
  around and you had the proton pack and you'd walk around the city and you
• 43:25
  have to walk across this plank and it was insane and you're walking from room
• 43:30
  to room. They got that game on the VR. Now, Yeah,
• 43:35
  well, this whole exhibit though, did stuff like they added different smells because
• 43:39
  there you know, this is a museum, so they're able to add more
• 43:43
  than what you can normally do at your home. But like, once you
• 43:45
  defeat the State Puff marshmallow Man, they put in like a scent of marshmallow.
• 43:50
  It's pretty crazy what technology can do, but it's even crazier to think
• 43:53
  of what it's going to do. Let's move on to the main event though.
• 43:58
  Boys. We're gonna be talking about the boys right now, episodes four
• 44:00
  and five, I think, or what we're up to, because you guys
• 44:05
  talked about it on the Recess Bell, right, Josha a few weeks ago,
• 44:08
  we talked about it a little bit. Yeah, what did you guys
• 44:12
  think of episode four? Because for me, that is the best episode of
• 44:16
  what season I watch. Episode five. We'll get get into spoilers, by
• 44:20
  the way, so if anyone is worried about that. I thought episode four
• 44:24
  was the best because to me, the most compelling character on that show is
• 44:29
  easily Homelander, and that was a very Homelander centric episode. I didn't think
• 44:34
  the last episode like he fell back in this last episode, but it was
• 44:39
  like, you can see what he's pushing on Ryan is stuff that he expressed
• 44:44
  from his visit in episode four. Yeah, what did you think? What
• 44:47
  do you think of Ryan as a character. So he's the son of Homelander
• 44:52
  and Butcher is trying to basically rescue him from Homelander. I'm not a fan
• 44:59
  of the actor. I think he's very bad. You know, I just
• 45:02
  found out about the actor. That's funny and it's I guess this is the
• 45:06
  thing. How you know he's a twin? He that's that is common with
• 45:12
  Both of them are acting, right, Yeah, both of them are actors.
• 45:14
  And I'm not even sure if they're both playing him. I'm not even
• 45:16
  sure if both of them are playing him, but I think that's kind of
• 45:20
  I think they're both playing well that happens that The thing I didn't know about
• 45:24
  was the dude who played Iceman and x Men is a twin. Oh really,
• 45:30
  there's a lot of who else is a twin Linda Hamilton from Terminator,
• 45:35
  Like I'm talking about identical, so identical. So I don't know who's playing
• 45:38
  Iceman and who's playing Jimmy and super Smallville so I don't know. But as
• 45:43
  far as Ryan Ryan his character, his character, I feel it's conflicted because
• 45:47
  part of him wants to It's part of him wants to hit that humanity side
• 45:52
  of Butcher. Butcher's trying to bring him over, but it's just that evilness
• 45:57
  of Homelanded that's convince him. Like and when you look at certain, when
• 46:01
  you look at episode four when he was communicating with was that was he communicating
• 46:06
  with Butcher? Episode four? Yeah, they were having their football game.
• 46:10
  When you look at him that you show the good in him, Like how
• 46:14
  good he Ryan could be? Yeah, you know he understands his mom and
• 46:17
  everything like that, and he does have those awkward moments with Homelander. But
• 46:21
  then there's those moments with Homelander, you know it convinced, what what do
• 46:24
  you want to do? And it's like this last episode was like he basically
• 46:28
  made a dude just get bitch slapped by but I thought that was a good
• 46:32
  thing that Homelander did I think, Oh, it's showing that he's showing Brian
• 46:37
  that you are a you are above humanity. But is he wrong in that?
• 46:42
  I mean, I think I think, I think Homelander, Are you
• 46:45
  not seeing the wrongs I'm telling you? I think Homelander is gonna not maybe
• 46:51
  do a full face term, but I think they're gonna start showing, you
• 46:54
  know, and they already had why he is the way he is. Not
• 46:58
  that that makes it right for he's doing what What are you so shocked about?
• 47:02
  I had a face turn you said a face. I don't think he's
• 47:05
  going So we're all not seeing what this is leading to. Where is it
• 47:09
  leading to? Mister? I don't know. There was a there was a
• 47:13
  prominent guy in the nineteen forty who thought he was a superior race in certain
• 47:19
  people trying to lead to Jenna. Is any different than Magneto from that X
• 47:23
  Men show, you know? And he was a tortured soul like, oh,
• 47:27
  they're getting some sympathy on Homelander with episode four. I mean he was
• 47:32
  sympathy. Yeah, he was fucking cooked in another There's something, there's something
• 47:37
  that Kory is missing here too, because over the course of the boy's history.
• 47:39
  You know that that that that's saying. You know, Christ the Hunter
• 47:43
  looks like a phantom, unto a real phantom. Pull up, you know,
• 47:45
  Homelander was look a really Stormfront pulled up exactly and he was like,
• 47:49
  oh, whoa, whoa. She's like, He's like, I'm not a
• 47:52
  racist and everything, but I'm not that racist. You think Homeland is gonna
• 47:57
  get to that point. See up Front, her thing was she was thinking
• 48:01
  of the white race. She was thinking of white the white race. Homelanders
• 48:05
  thinking of the soups race. But you know he's thinking he's thinking of it
• 48:13
  in a superhero compacity. He's not thinking of the race. That's why when
• 48:15
  when he when when Stormfront brought up that whole thing about race, he was
• 48:19
  like, Okay, I'm not with you there, but when you talk about
• 48:22
  superheroes, yeah, I might be with you there. That's a fair point.
• 48:25
  I mean, listen, they don't know Homelander Front. I did enjoy
• 48:29
  episode four because I think that anytime you have a polarizing character like Homelander,
• 48:35
  I mean, you're always gonna have in the back of your mind like,
• 48:37
  yo, why is this dude, or why is this whoever it is,
• 48:39
  why are they the way that they are? Right? You can't look away
• 48:43
  when he's on screen, right, And they have gone into that before in
• 48:45
  the past, like we've seen obviously Soldier Boy last season we saw I forgot
• 48:52
  the actor. Shout out to my guy who plays the Soldier Boy last year?
• 48:57
  What actor was that? Supernatural? He played Dean. I'm not the
• 49:00
  supernatural. I don't know what the names escaping me too. I've seen him
• 49:02
  in everything, Jason, j before you continued, Josh, Now, my
• 49:08
  memory is as far as short term goes, it's pretty shitty. He's still
• 49:13
  alive Soldier Boy right. No, No, he got taken out by Queen
• 49:17
  Mays. Yeah, and Queen Mavis. That's she's still. No, they
• 49:22
  show her, doesn't she have like an eye patch at the end of No,
• 49:24
  I swear to god, she's alive. Turned into mush. Yeah she
• 49:29
  done, she done? Really, I'll have to rewatch it. Then I
• 49:31
  thought they were both no, both dead. It was kind of unclear because
• 49:37
  you never know what these soups like. Some of them survived the craziest things.
• 49:39
  Yeah, you'll ever see, So a lot of it was unclear,
• 49:42
  But I'm glad. I'm glad the Boys ain't like the comics, because you've
• 49:45
  seen that whole debate going on. First, First off, if the Boys
• 49:49
  was like the comics, the first thing I'm gonna say is that Mother's Milk
• 49:52
  will have a completely different story. Yeah. I've never read or or looked
• 49:57
  into the difference between, but I think that's important. You don't want to
• 50:00
  do a carbon copy story of the comics people who thought, because some people
• 50:06
  are now finding out that it's kind of making a little bit of fun of
• 50:08
  the like maggot people finding out that it's kind of making a little fun of
• 50:12
  them, which is insane, like you're realizing now. So they liked it,
• 50:15
  so they're like, you know, the comics were actually better and everything
• 50:19
  like that, And I'm like, I'm not too sure about that because I'm
• 50:22
  not gonna front though this crazy. This is crazy. They scaled it back
• 50:25
  real really crazy, because that's what And then do you remember, I start
• 50:30
  like, it's like a god torch. It's like a guy who's like,
• 50:32
  uh, the lantern. So he got a flaming lantern. You see him
• 50:37
  certain times, but he's not in the group right now. In the comics
• 50:40
  he dies, but in the comics, soups really can't die. Their mind
• 50:45
  and everything can die, but they really their physical body can't die. So
• 50:49
  what happens They keep this guy locked up in a cage in a cage in
• 50:53
  the bottom of vault and they just feed him in ship all day. Yikes.
• 50:58
  Well, I think that reality that that is a rough way to go.
• 51:02
  Uh back back to Homelander, though, Uh, where do we see
• 51:07
  this character going? Because I think I think you know, they announced that
• 51:13
  this is ending season five. This is not something that's going to overstay.
• 51:15
  It's welcome, which is a big problem with a lot of shows. I
• 51:19
  feel like they're going to branch it off and then tink it to something else,
• 51:22
  like a spin off. This already exists. Yes, do you think
• 51:24
  that is a problem? Do you think? Because you know, this show
• 51:29
  I think was perfect because it came at a time where all these superhero shows
• 51:34
  and movies were coming out and people were sick of them, and this was
• 51:36
  everything that wasn't a superhero show. It's fun of all of it. And
• 51:40
  now if you start doing spinoffs and you have it's turning into what it was
• 51:45
  supposed to not be. Did you see did you see the actually make fun
• 51:47
  of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Phase nineteen thirty five. I
• 51:52
  mean that was funny. It's like, Okay, we got this movie called
• 51:53
  Flip where you know, our body is a swamp. Yeah, it's funny.
• 51:59
  But again, I think there's something not noble, but there's just something
• 52:04
  cool about something going off the air at its peak. I mean that's why
• 52:08
  Seinfeld is this like historic show. Because it didn't stick around. It was
• 52:13
  the number one show. He was offered four million dollars per episode, and
• 52:15
  he was like, no, I'm good. Became an artifact of sorts.
• 52:20
  But then there are those shows like The Simpsons that's still on and it's just
• 52:23
  terrible. Some shows that never get there. They're just doing get that final
• 52:28
  episode like Elf. So yeah, and then like the dis Chappelle show,
• 52:32
  the Wayne's Brother Show. There's a lot of shows, and then there's also
• 52:37
  a lot of shows that shouldn't have been canceled right away. I mean,
• 52:39
  Freaks and Geeks is one of my favorite shows. I got one season.
• 52:42
  He got one season, the show with like whole bunch of people that turned
• 52:49
  out to be Hollywood. Yeah, big stars, but James Franco. But
• 52:54
  yeah, that's a that's a Fantastic show cook a little yeah, because I
• 52:59
  know the fantast movie Fantastic before movies came up. I still say that David
• 53:02
  Franco should have played the human I like the guy that's playing the human tortures
• 53:07
  just in the quiet place. He's the guy Eddie from Stranger Things. I
• 53:10
  think he's gonna do a really good job. I would have preferred. I
• 53:13
  would have preferred Dave Franco because he adds he's pause Paul when I say this,
• 53:19
  he's good looking for the role. Yeah, and then he adds that
• 53:22
  comedic relief. If you ever watch him in any of his things, he
• 53:25
  has it. I don't know what it is, just that that very sarcastic,
• 53:29
  comedic time. He's great. That Corey went the preemptive pause just to
• 53:32
  say he's good looking. I thought usually when you go preemptive pause, you
• 53:37
  like you've got to say some wild there's nothing wrong. They're looking for the
• 53:42
  role. But I felt as though he should. But getting back to the
• 53:44
  getting back to well, where do you think where do you think Homelanders story?
• 53:47
  Because like I said, death by Whom Butcher Ryan? Oh wait,
• 53:53
  actually you know what? You know what? I think it has to be
• 53:58
  Ryan, because I feel like he's the when that physical match up. And
• 54:00
  I think that they'll try to do is play on this story. Okay,
• 54:06
  I just thought of something. They could actually play on a story from the
• 54:09
  comics a little bit and accused Homelander doing I don't know if spoiled. No,
• 54:16
  you know what, I don't want to know anything just in case,
• 54:20
  just in case they end up using anything from the comic book. So I
• 54:22
  think it could be. I think it could be. I think it could
• 54:24
  be. Right, But you've seen what's happening with Butcher now, with him
• 54:28
  and his mysterious Butcher. Yeah, yeah, he was wrapped up with the
• 54:31
  tentacle dude or whatever, with the stretching guy, and then the screens short
• 54:36
  of went black and the thing that you've seen, the thing that's been crawling
• 54:38
  in his face. Yeah, so I believe I have a theory. Do
• 54:44
  you remember h Victoria Newman's daughter, the one that coming out of her face.
• 54:50
  I think Butcher got that. Oh yeah, but I still think he
• 54:54
  needs to die and Homelander needs to die. I think that. You here's
• 54:59
  the it's a big story to have it end with death. I could see
• 55:01
  that happening. I can see actually if Butcher gets close enough to Ryan,
• 55:06
  and I think Ryan Homelander is able to get Ryan back because he's Homelander.
• 55:09
  Towards the end of the season, you can see a plot where Butcher kind
• 55:13
  of plants those seeds in Ryan to kind of resent Homelander, and then season
• 55:19
  five begins and you're just kind of seeing his father son dynamic and we know
• 55:22
  Homelander. This is why I feel like Justin's right in terms of his downfall,
• 55:28
  Homelander's downfall, because Homelander has this thing with love. He needs to
• 55:31
  feel that love. No matter how hated he is, He's gonna have that
• 55:36
  thing for love. The only person love that's gonna be left to love him
• 55:38
  as his son. That's the only person that's gonna that connection is gonna exist.
• 55:43
  So that's really the only source of Homelanders downfall. I think it's gonna
• 55:45
  be right. I think Butcher, whether he dies or not, I do
• 55:49
  think he dies this season. I hope not because I love that he can't.
• 55:52
  He can't. We'll see what happens. But I think Butcher can plant
• 55:57
  seeds in Ryan Ryan Homelander season five. That's the higher the entire plot line.
• 56:00
  But that's the kind of the overarching story, and then you can see
• 56:04
  kind of homeland of Alby is the mist because that's what they've been setting it
• 56:07
  up as the entire I don't think. I don't think, but I think
• 56:09
  I think he's caving because he said I already took the vore, you took
• 56:14
  the v I don't think. I think as far as the good guys go,
• 56:17
  and you've pointed this out, it might have been all air, Josh.
• 56:21
  All these characters are flawed. There's nobody that's like fully good. There,
• 56:25
  there's nobody that's irredeemable. What did mother? What did mothers will do?
• 56:30
  Man? That man? Come on, what mothers will do except me
• 56:36
  except me? Trauma to us by having a dick wrapped throughout his neck,
• 56:39
  that's all? What did you do? Man? Every one of these characters
• 56:44
  had a very violently moment just because his was more relatable because of what happened.
• 56:47
  Only thing he can say is I hated my x Y boyfriend at this
• 56:52
  house. That's yeah, Okay, he didn't have to beat his ass in
• 56:54
  front of his daughter. And why is he the X? I mean,
• 56:58
  clearly he wasn't a good husband either, So, I mean he was not
• 57:00
  so like, there are flaws, but that makes them interesting. You don't
• 57:04
  want to have these cookie cutter, white bread characters Uie. I mean,
• 57:08
  I'd have to rethink of everything that. But I'm sure he's yourself, bro,
• 57:14
  Like, there's nothing and you just did what he just did with his
• 57:19
  pop. He didn't do that. His mom did it. No where did
• 57:22
  his mom get the idea from what she saw the v drop out of his
• 57:24
  pocket and she hey, she didn't pay, she didn't get the cold because
• 57:29
  he wasn't gonna do it. I just want he put both of them in
• 57:34
  that position. I mean, the only thing you can say he did have
• 57:37
  to kill us pops. He did have to kill us pops. But that
• 57:38
  was a good story. That was a good finale for that character. Who
• 57:44
  who? That was probably the only decent person in the entire uh you know
• 57:49
  series as far as not doing anything really bad except I guess keeping the fact
• 57:53
  that the mom was trying to contact Hueie. So yeah, but that that
• 57:58
  makes interesting characters to have flaw. I don't know how you guys don't see
• 58:01
  well Corey in particular, how do you not see not gonna say good in
• 58:07
  Homelander, but like, for instance, when they were talking about Ryan getting
• 58:13
  that TV show or movie whatever it was gonna be, and he was like,
• 58:16
  I don't want to do it. I felt like Homelander was like really
• 58:22
  starting to grow as a parent in a sense where he was like, you
• 58:25
  don't have to do it, you don't want to do it, you don't
• 58:28
  have to do it. I thought they had a nice bonding moment yet ended
• 58:30
  with him getting slapped, But like that guy deserved to get slapped. He
• 58:35
  was being a piece of shit to that to the Asian woman. It's not
• 58:37
  like I felt like that was the only reason why he's saying because you know,
• 58:40
  I had to do things I didn't want to do. But if you
• 58:43
  don't want to do you don't have to do it. But then at the
• 58:45
  end he still showed him you're superior forcing me do it, forced her to
• 58:50
  slap him. Slap him is like that, don't he's still in redeemer,
• 58:54
  I know, But out of all the awful things, out of all the
• 58:58
  heads he's blown up, I feel he's growing. Would have snapped someone's neck.
• 59:02
  No he's not, he's not. I'm mad that you actually see him
• 59:10
  I've seen listen Darth Vader think about all the ship that he's done, and
• 59:15
  he got that redemption moment he talking about if we if we keep it,
• 59:21
  if we're keeping it a buck From when he was manipulated but two, but
• 59:24
  two, he's always had this plot of I really want to betray this guy.
• 59:29
  I really want to get him out of the galaxy. Okay, and
• 59:30
  that's literally I think a lot of what is in Homelander he was betrayed and
• 59:36
  he was manipulated. Is I mean, did you not he does? I
• 59:40
  get if you're saying that he wants to take out and you know he wants
• 59:45
  to actually save people, I can give you that, but no, what
• 59:47
  it seems like he wants to do is take vought out, take out the
• 59:51
  government, and be ran by soups. I guess we're watching different shows,
• 59:57
  Corey. How do you not get I was saying, I don't know.
• 1:00:00
  But as far as I think, I think, you know, we've been
• 1:00:05
  talking for for quite some time. I think we need to get back to
• 1:00:08
  the show eventually. Usually the series seasons are pretty short, right, They're
• 1:00:13
  usually like eight episodes. That's another issue somewhere that's I hate that it's like
• 1:00:17
  eight episodes and you have to weigh two three years. I mean they but
• 1:00:21
  they do give you like these little shows in between, like they give you
• 1:00:23
  Jim V. They gave you this other show. No, they gave you
• 1:00:25
  this other show where it was like they gave you a perspective of like it
• 1:00:30
  was like I don't want to say, like five or six episodes, right,
• 1:00:31
  but each each each style of episodes of this was like it was a
• 1:00:36
  boys story pause, but but it was told and it was animated in different
• 1:00:42
  styles. It gave you a backstory of like Homeland, his first uh,
• 1:00:45
  his first save, like his first save went horribly wrong and he wound up
• 1:00:49
  killing everybody, to the point where Black and War had to come in and
• 1:00:52
  try to like I guess handle the situation animated. Yeah, but he had
• 1:00:57
  to try to, Like, yeah, he tried to. He tried to
• 1:00:59
  sit Sandals situation Homeland and thinking that he just got caught doing something dangerous,
• 1:01:04
  tried to kill his dude, Black and Wall Black wos like this the whole
• 1:01:06
  thing, Like no, and then it's like a whole bunch of different stories.
• 1:01:10
  It's like it's kind of crazy. The Starlight or Homelander thing. It's
• 1:01:14
  funny though, I think Starlight, well, I never really there was never
• 1:01:16
  a point in time where I enjoined Starlight's character. I just say that it
• 1:01:21
  is weird that here we found out she had an abortion, like, you
• 1:01:23
  know, it was your body, your choice, you know. He's like
• 1:01:25
  he basically think like he didn't mind. He's like, yeah, it's like,
• 1:01:29
  I'm like, you didn't care at all. You didn't care at all.
• 1:01:34
  She had your kid a little bit like, no, no resentment,
• 1:01:37
  nothing. It was like, Okay, she felt she felt more resentment to
• 1:01:40
  herself than here he felt. I was like, okay, she felt more
• 1:01:45
  angry. She felt more angry, and it just showed that, you know,
• 1:01:49
  she got asked. Fire Craig got asked when she exposed, and that
• 1:01:52
  was I think one of the few scenes that I was kind of like,
• 1:01:54
  yeah, way to go Starlight, because I think she is one of the
• 1:01:58
  weaker characters as far as caring for She's losing her power a little bit.
• 1:02:01
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, here's I just think that star Lighter, star
• 1:02:06
  Lighter, Starlight, she just like it's not the what does she even do?
• 1:02:14
  Her characters kind of land a little bit. That's why I call characters
• 1:02:16
  a white bread, wheat bro She's just a piece of white bread. It's
• 1:02:20
  a little better than it's more entertaining than wheat bread. I give this the
• 1:02:22
  first season. Her character is interested because she had an actual foil with the
• 1:02:28
  boys, like I mean, not the boys with the with the seven because
• 1:02:31
  of what they what they did to like in the comics, who is way
• 1:02:35
  worse. I don't doubt it was all of them. And then Queen may
• 1:02:39
  was like, I mean, the boys got their terms tough for me to
• 1:02:43
  get minds, Queen Maye is a lot worse than That's true. That's true.
• 1:02:45
  I got to read the comics, the comic on that. I feel
• 1:02:52
  like, we can see you ducky well. They better film this next season
• 1:02:58
  because Aaron Moriarty is gonna turn into I don't know what Fat Removal said.
• 1:03:06
  You know who cared. I'm just not feeling this here frenchy French. Oh
• 1:03:10
  yeah, I never cared for why do they do that to Frenchie? Like,
• 1:03:14
  I was like, why they do what's the Frenchie ahead? I feel
• 1:03:20
  like they turned and feel like that. I felt like he probably was by
• 1:03:22
  but I didn't notice that. I probably just weren't paying attention. I thought
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  he I thought he was. I thought him and well they they're calling him
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  is what? What was it? Sexually ambiguous? I didn't think that he
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  was. I don't think he's rong with it. And then it's like,
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  oh, I killed his family, his family, I'm so convicted. And
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  then it's like, but then again, why see, I'm just gonna be
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  pro Homelander here. Why is he get to kill all these innocent people and
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  be a hero. That's that's the beauty of the show. There's no about
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  it. No character you can prop upon a like I'm rooting for this,
• 1:03:57
  because no, you gotta really look at to every character story and can we
• 1:04:00
  all admit that? But you's actually losing his mind. He's talking to somebody
• 1:04:04
  who's not there. Yeah, I feel like that guy's not there. And
• 1:04:08
  episode five, we haven't talked about it, like a fight COLDE situation is
• 1:04:11
  happening. Episode five we haven't really talked about a lot like this new Well,
• 1:04:14
  it was introduced in gen V. That's the one thing in gen V
• 1:04:17
  that you wouldn't really have known about that was referencing the boys. This was
• 1:04:21
  really the first episode that that took place. This virus that can take out
• 1:04:25
  soup. That was that was introduced very quickly in the show. But so
• 1:04:30
  yeah, I guess it was because I didn't really get that. And the
• 1:04:32
  thing that I'm confused about with them introducing it is so you know, they
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  said that you know, you have injected and then it's like that and and
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  and gen V is basically like all it has to do is get airborne and
• 1:04:45
  it could kill anybody, Like once it gets out is out. That's how
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  I was described in gen V. But it is it's like you got to
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  inject the person. This person can only transmit it through lick, through sex
• 1:04:56
  or sex or through lick uh the liquids. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:00
  I'm like that was not that was not suggested in the show. But maybe
• 1:05:02
  that's why they pitched this deep in sister sage relationship. Good god, that's
• 1:05:12
  just that that's a weird relationship. Well what did it? Was it the
• 1:05:15
  lobotomy or was it him cheating on his octopus the lobotomy? You know the
• 1:05:20
  crazy ship. I found out about the octopus who was voicing the dimn octopus?
• 1:05:24
  Who the lady from Doctor Stranger, who was the monk? Oh?
• 1:05:29
  Really, I did not know. Yeah, Like I was, like,
• 1:05:32
  I was surprised. Why she's come on, let's go, let's go another
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  round. I'm like, why are you doing this? Well? The show
• 1:05:40
  is wild. It's like I said, it's everything that these superhero films aren't.
• 1:05:44
  And uh, you know, it pushes the envelope with its violence,
• 1:05:46
  with its sexuality and storytelling, and I'm all for it. I think it's
• 1:05:51
  a fan. He just laying low, right, And we have a training
• 1:05:57
  a train ain't we were talking about here? You know what you talk about
• 1:06:01
  Homeland and becoming the more being redeemed A trainers trying to redeem him exactly.
• 1:06:06
  Why can't he redeem himself with Homelander actually put in the work he's given?
• 1:06:12
  Give him time? Homeland a trained has been helping the boys out in season
• 1:06:16
  one, was running Hugh's life by killing his girlfriend. But did he not
• 1:06:19
  But did he not give him like time at the top of crucial information that
• 1:06:24
  they needed to Yeah? Sure, but I mean we gotta we can't forget
• 1:06:27
  about what started. The dog was high, he's hot, he is dying.
• 1:06:31
  He was not actually in his right mind, and we're being honest,
• 1:06:33
  that's his fault that we don't call that homic that manslaughter. Okay. In
• 1:06:42
  the political turn politics, he was not in his right frame of mind.
• 1:06:46
  He was on. He was on he was what was on? He was
• 1:06:49
  in v was he? No, he was on something because he was like,
• 1:06:54
  uh, he gave him like it was like steroids. It's like cocaine
• 1:06:57
  for the No, it was it was it was it was. It was
• 1:07:00
  yeah, because I know his girlfriend got on it and she just got over
• 1:07:04
  sexualized. She crushed Helene Leewi's head. By the way, we talk about
• 1:07:10
  the how it's a lot worse than the comics, but I think people that's
• 1:07:13
  just getting into the show and they see all the gory stuff that happens,
• 1:07:15
  Like if you tell him that, you know, if you if you haven't
• 1:07:18
  watched it, and then you tell them in the comics it's kind of a
• 1:07:20
  little crazier than they're gonna be. Like they probably can't even comprehend it,
• 1:07:25
  like I go for I don't. They haven't seen a scene with small dude
• 1:07:29
  goes into another man and then he sneezes and then that that was the beginning
• 1:07:33
  of the last season season three. That was crazy and the hero guys and
• 1:07:39
  we're not going to talk, you know, and I mean small girl is
• 1:07:46
  that it was crazy? That was crazy quickly before we wrap things up,
• 1:07:51
  who's living by the end of the show. I think a Train dies this
• 1:07:56
  season because they got they have to kill somebody. That's big. One thing
• 1:08:00
  I will say about eight Trainer that he's learning how to stick and move right
• 1:08:02
  because he gave that information to Ashley. I think she's gonna die. No,
• 1:08:09
  I don't think so. I don't think so. I think I think
• 1:08:12
  she'll live. The character. I think a Train might have a chance because
• 1:08:15
  he's learning how to kind of manipulate his way in and out of situations.
• 1:08:17
  We'll know if he gets eventually by Homelander and Sage because they seem to be
• 1:08:21
  onto him a little bit. I could see Frenchy dying. Yeah, I
• 1:08:25
  can see that happening too. I can see that being a big kind of
• 1:08:29
  prop up for Comico too. Yes, And I think, like I mentioned
• 1:08:33
  at the beginning of this, I think Butcher and Homelander kind I think I
• 1:08:38
  kind of need Victorian him in to die because I don't if she is she
• 1:08:41
  if she continues to how she gonna die. She got shot in the face
• 1:08:44
  like five times. Ready, this season. She she ain't budget bit.
• 1:08:46
  How's she gonna die? She's gonna get got she ain't gonna There's no way
• 1:08:50
  to really get unless that virus actually work. There's no way to get a
• 1:08:54
  guy. That's why I'm like, why are they hiding from sheep? You
• 1:08:58
  know, I just thought about, you know, who actually would be Victoria
• 1:09:01
  Newman's worst enemy to like fight? Who would that be since the Sage?
• 1:09:08
  Why? Why do you say that? Since the sage? As she said,
• 1:09:11
  I could get stabbed in my heart and die. But the one thing
• 1:09:13
  they could happened to me is I could get my head range, I could
• 1:09:16
  get my head. I get my head, I get shot in the head,
• 1:09:18
  and I could live. I was like, this play literally that is
• 1:09:24
  Victor. Victoria Neuman's only power is popping head. So guess what really doesn't
• 1:09:29
  work. I'll be back in a couple of house. Yeah, that's something
• 1:09:30
  I think that they'll get to. But you know, we've been going for
• 1:09:34
  a while. I think we need to come back once the season ends,
• 1:09:39
  and we'll do a season recap and talk more bullshit. But thank you guys
• 1:09:43
  for joining me on this edition of the film Real. We got to a
• 1:09:45
  lot of topics, but there's always more to talk about, so hopefully you
• 1:09:47
  guys will join me in a few weeks. We'll recap the Boys and thank
• 1:09:50
  you all for listening. Have a good one everyone, Bye bye,