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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome in. Welcome in. This is JFK
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Speaker 1: Book Reviews, a division of the Lone Gunman Podcast. I
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Speaker 1: am Big Bad Bob here with you. And as you
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Speaker 1: can tell from the artwork around here, we're going to
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Speaker 1: be talking about coup d'etat in America. Coup d'etat in America.
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Speaker 1: I could have swore that was a song. The CIA
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Speaker 1: and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy by Alan Jules
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Speaker 1: Weberman and Michael Canfield with a foreword by Henry Gonzalez,
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Speaker 1: a U.S. congressman. I do have the book here. However,
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Speaker 1: I could not find any art for this edition of
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Speaker 1: the book. Now, as you can see from the glare,
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Speaker 1: it has a plastic cover on it, dust jacket. It
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Speaker 1: has plastic over the dust jacket, I should say. And
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Speaker 1: this one here was reprinted by Popular Demand. This book
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Speaker 1: was originally published in 1975. It had two pressings, two
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Speaker 1: editions in 75, a first and a second, and then
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Speaker 1: the third in 1992. Hot on the heels of the
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Speaker 1: movie JFK, the cash-in, as we all call it. I'd
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Speaker 1: like to say, can't blame them, but this is the
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Speaker 1: 92 edition, the reprint, the reissue. I.
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Speaker 1: This thing, it's about 314 pages. 314 pages. And ironically enough,
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Speaker 1: ironically enough, I find it interesting that this was published
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Speaker 1: by Third Press Publishers, a division of the Okpaku Communications Company. P.O.
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Speaker 2: Box 7680 Legos Nigeriaman. A Joseph Okpaku book. So this
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Speaker 2: was published by Nigerian publishers in 1975.
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Speaker 1: Alrighty then. Let's get right into it. Because... Michael Canfield,
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Speaker 1: and I'll read to you directly from his bio because
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Speaker 1: I can find nothing about him online. A native of
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin and art director of the McGovern Presidential Campaign. He
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Speaker 1: was editor and publisher of two tabloids in Wisconsin and
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Speaker 1: in Florida. He was also resident manager of a state
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Speaker 1: drug rehab center in Florida. A.J. Weberman, Alan Jules Weberman,
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Speaker 1: is a graduate of the City College of New York
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Speaker 1: and calls himself a native of Brooklyn. In quotes, his
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Speaker 1: penchant for minute details, his greatest asset in doing this book,
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Speaker 1: earned him the title of garbologist. He is perhaps best
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Speaker 1: known in America for his analysis of Bob Dylan's poetry,
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Speaker 1: digging through his trash and sniffing his tighty-whities. Allegedly. Allegedly.
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Speaker 1: He is the progenitor of the terms Dylanologist and Garbology.
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Speaker 1: I'll show you this here so you can see what
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Speaker 1: kind of fellow we're dealing with here when it comes
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Speaker 1: to A.J. Weberman. As you can see from his newspaper
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Speaker 1: picture here, he's digging through somebody's trash. He's got the
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Speaker 1: wild hair, the sideburns, the classic yippee from New York.
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Speaker 1: Some of his other books include such hits as My
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Speaker 1: Life in Garbology, Ron Paul, America's Most Dangerous N-Word, Homo Thug,
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Speaker 1: The Secret Life of Rudy Giuliani, Dylan to English Dictionary
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Speaker 1: by A.J. Webberman, Dylanologist. And oh, we can't forget the
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Speaker 1: Oswald Code, which is ironically not up here. But that's okay. So, A.J.
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Speaker 1: Webberman's a little kooky, if you will. He has done
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Speaker 1: some interesting things when it comes to the JFK assassination research.
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Speaker 1: Theodore I don't necessarily agree with all of his Oswald
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Speaker 1: code stuff. He was instrumental in getting some, I believe
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Speaker 1: it was some Minox film developed in the 70s that
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Speaker 1: had images of Oswald on it and allegedly Jerry Hemming.
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Speaker 1: He's also known for many outstanding and colorful interviews with
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Speaker 1: folks such as Lauren Hall. And Jerry Hemming and Frank Sturgis.
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Speaker 1: So very interesting stuff there. He has talked to some
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Speaker 1: interesting people. He is... Notorious for his nodules that he
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Speaker 1: used to put out. I'm not sure if they're even
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Speaker 1: online anymore. They were more or less... Chapters... research chapters,
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Speaker 1: chapters and various research and expansions on chapters from this book.
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Speaker 1: Coupe d'Etat in America. So, like I said, this book
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Speaker 1: was originally published in 75. So this is pre, pre, uh, HSCA.
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Speaker 1: And if you notice on, well, As you can see,
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Speaker 1: CIA is in gold. And in the original cover to
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Speaker 1: the left, CIA is in white. It's a very clever
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Speaker 1: play on who they think was behind the assassination. It's
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Speaker 1: been a while since I read this book. Some years.
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Speaker 1: Some years. So I had to go back and peruse
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Speaker 1: some things. So this book has 12 chapters, an appendix,
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Speaker 1: the full transcript of a Frank Sturgis interview with Michael Canfield.
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Speaker 1: It has close to 30 pages of printed documents relevant
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Speaker 1: to some of the things in this book. They explore
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Speaker 1: such topics as How it all began. Was Oswald a
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Speaker 1: CIA agent? The Tramps. The Tramps and the Watergate Burglars.
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Speaker 1: The Oswald Double. The Odeo Incident and the Mysterious Mr. Martin.
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Speaker 1: Hi Johnny. Lauren Hall and the Free Cuba Committee. Maybe
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Speaker 1: you've heard that story. Ruby Lansky and the Death of Oswald.
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Speaker 1: The Warren Commission. Pictures from Dallas. A photo report. Unanswered questions. So,
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Speaker 1: this book is very interesting for its time, the subject matter,
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Speaker 1: and when it came out. It does, excuse me, it
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Speaker 1: does feature heavily the theory of of the three tramps
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Speaker 1: that we're all familiar with. And of course, this book
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Speaker 1: is hyper-focused on them being Frank Sturges and E. Howard Hunt. Again,
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Speaker 1: this book came out in 1975, hot on the heels
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Speaker 1: of the Watergate burglary and convictions. So of course, being
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Speaker 1: able to tie them back to the Kennedy assassination would
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Speaker 1: be a very convenient thing. This book does explore some
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Speaker 1: very interesting topics that aren't normally covered with things, including
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Speaker 1: this little passage here that I found kind of interesting. So, damn,
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Speaker 1: sorry about that. Salvador Diaz Verzon, who was a friend
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Speaker 1: of Carlos Brenguer's, took a similar line. The former chief
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Speaker 1: of the dreaded Cuban Military Intelligence Service and the current
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Speaker 1: president of the anti-communist League of Cuba said that Castro
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Speaker 1: had put Oswald up to it. It being the assassination.
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Speaker 1: Salvador Diaz states that a close friend of his was
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Speaker 1: a director of the anti-Castro radio program called The Voice
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Speaker 1: of Cuba. The Voice of Cuba was sponsored by Mullen
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Speaker 1: CIA's Cuban Freedom Committee. It was extremely likely that Diaz
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Speaker 1: knew Bernard Barker, who we just talked about on the
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Speaker 1: show this past Friday night, with Weekend with Bernies, where
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Speaker 1: we talked about Bernard Barker and Bernardo de Torres. It
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Speaker 1: is strange that Diaz first heard the story about Oswald
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Speaker 1: while attending the an international federation of journalists convention in
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Speaker 1: Mexico City, and according to ex-CIA agent Philip Agee, this
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Speaker 1: organization works closely with the CIA. Brene also tried to
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Speaker 1: prove that Oswald was a Castro agent by linking him
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Speaker 1: to a letter that a disgruntled member of the Christian
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Speaker 1: Democratic Movement had sent to the Cuban ambassador in Mexico City.
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Speaker 1: hoping to be allowed back into Cuba in return for
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Speaker 1: information on the activities of the anti-Castro exiles. Sound familiar?
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Speaker 1: The CDM got this man to confess by putting a
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Speaker 1: rope around his neck and a gun to his head.
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Speaker 1: The letter they originally intercepted had a reference to, quote,
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Speaker 1: remain alert until the 8th of August, end quote. Bernier
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Speaker 1: claimed that Oswald had tried to infiltrate the DRE prior
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Speaker 1: to the 8th of August and that he had found
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Speaker 1: out about the McClaney training camp farm from the confessed spy.
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Speaker 1: Frank Sturges' friend Victor Pank was mixed up in this
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Speaker 1: affair as well. Jack Anderson reported that William F. Buckley
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Speaker 1: was behind a defense fund to pay for E. Howard
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Speaker 1: Hunt's lawyers, what the secret Watergate hush funds didn't cover.
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Speaker 1: So you can see that there is a lot of
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Speaker 1: interesting side tangents and topics and things that get tied
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Speaker 1: in together. Um, Canfield also called John Hart, John David Hurt, sorry,
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Speaker 1: and tried to find out why Oswald had called him
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Speaker 1: from jail. The following is an edited transcript of the conversation.
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Speaker 1: Hurt says, I never heard of Lee Harvey Oswald until
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Speaker 1: the tragedy occurred. Canfield says, but there's his document. Hurt says,
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Speaker 1: I never heard of him until the tragedy occurred, I said.
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Speaker 1: Had some... Had some telephone conversations with Kennedy's assistants, though.
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Speaker 1: I'd never talked to President or Mrs. Kennedy, but I
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Speaker 1: was greatly interested in them and a real Kennedy file.
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Speaker 1: Every time I'd be interested in their comings and goings,
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Speaker 1: and every time I'd talk to their administrative assistants, I
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Speaker 1: never got to talk to either of the Kennedys. I
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Speaker 1: was in the Counterintelligence Corps in the Army during World
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Speaker 1: War II for about three years. Canfield says, I wonder
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Speaker 1: why they had this record down at the Dallas jail. Hurt,
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Speaker 1: I can't tell you to save my life. He never
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Speaker 1: called me. I never spoke to him in my life.
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Speaker 1: The only connection I ever had was just seeing him
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Speaker 1: on TV. Mrs. Hurt then picked up the extension and
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Speaker 1: Canfield questioned her about the call. Why do you think
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Speaker 1: this record exists, Canfield asked. Mrs. Hurt says, it puzzles
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Speaker 1: me to death. I'd like to know too. And then
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Speaker 1: Hurt says, my interest was from the standpoint of the Kennedys.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I'd be inclined to take the same action
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Speaker 1: Ruby took. I would have loved to put a bullet
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Speaker 1: in him. I wish I could give you some leads,
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Speaker 1: but I can't because I know I don't have the
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Speaker 1: slightest idea of how this thing came about. So this
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Speaker 1: is the Raleigh call to John Hurt. And very interesting.
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Speaker 1: You know, we have authors that actually called and tried
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Speaker 1: to follow up on things. Now, one of the cool
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Speaker 1: things about this book is Is it has a lot
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Speaker 1: of very interesting pictures in it. Okay. Check this out.
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Speaker 1: So this is kind of unique to this book. Alright.
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Speaker 1: We have a picture of the two tramps. Or two
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Speaker 1: of the tramps. Right. The old guy and the tall guy. Right.
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Speaker 1: Now check this out. So. Here we have. And I
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Speaker 1: don't know how to make this work. Because this is horrible. But...
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Speaker 1: Maybe if I get out of the way, the glare
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Speaker 1: is horrible. Anyway, it's a plastic overlay of Frank Sturgis
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Speaker 1: and E. Howard Hunt. Alright, and it came with the book.
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Speaker 1: So what you're supposed to do... Is overlay... The plastic...
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Speaker 1: Over the tramps... To see the resemblance. Allegedly. And you
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Speaker 1: can play with it. And you can move it around.
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Speaker 1: And you can line it up. Do whatever you need
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Speaker 1: to do. It's interesting. It's a novelty. It's a gimmick.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe... It really does anything, but it helped
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Speaker 1: to convince people that they were correct in their theory
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Speaker 1: for a very long time. Until, of course, a lot
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Speaker 1: clearer images of the tramps came about. And we got
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Speaker 1: the actual documents of who the tramps were that this
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Speaker 1: theory kind of went by the wayside. But even still today,
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Speaker 1: some people claim that the Tramps were, insert name here,
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Speaker 1: you know, Charles Harrelson and Chauncey Holt. Okay, sure it is.
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Speaker 1: But things like that. Like I said, I got this
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Speaker 1: book many years ago. And I paid a pretty penny
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Speaker 1: for it back then. $ 24. 95. $ 24. 95.
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Speaker 2: $ 24.
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Speaker 1: 95. I mean, it's a good-looking book. Don't get me wrong.
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Speaker 1: And you can pick up a copy on Amazon, I
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Speaker 1: do believe, for cheaper than that right now, allegedly. Let's see.
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Speaker 1: They do have an original hardcover copy for $ 19. They
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Speaker 1: have paperback copies. for $ 23 and as low as $ 3. 75
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Speaker 1: for the paperback. So it's affordable. It's not crazy. It's
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Speaker 1: an interesting read. There are some good things to be
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Speaker 1: gleaned out of it, but there is a lot of
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Speaker 1: outdated horse's assery, if you will, in there. I know
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Speaker 1: one guy who A.J. Weberman did not like goes through
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Speaker 1: his garbage and that would be Lauren Hall because Lauren
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Speaker 1: Hall would have put a bullet in his ass. But
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Speaker 1: I digress. So, this book, for what it is and
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Speaker 1: what it was, it was slightly innovative for its time
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Speaker 1: when it first came out with the plastic overlays and
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Speaker 1: all that good stuff. The many pictures included, the documents included,
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Speaker 1: Things that people hadn't put together yet. The interviews that
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Speaker 1: the authors took the time to do with actual people. Good.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to give this book a solid six guns up.
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Speaker 1: Six guns up. It's worth reading. It's worth a perusal,
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Speaker 1: if you will. It's not going to put you in
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Speaker 1: the poorhouse. It's worth a perusal. It's worth having on
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Speaker 1: the shelf as a reference when you need it. And
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Speaker 1: it does touch a lot on Bernard Barker and the
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Speaker 1: Watergate burglars, Frank Sturgis, Eugenio Martinez. He did talk to
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Speaker 1: Eugenio Martinez. He talked to Frank Sturgis. So a lot
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Speaker 1: of these interviews are in the book. And you're not
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Speaker 1: going to find them anywhere else. So check it out.
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Speaker 1: That's Six Guns Up. for Coup d'etat in America. That's
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Speaker 1: it for me, and we'll see you next time for
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