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Kory & Kevon (Full Blown Entertainment): Writing Soca’s Biggest Anthems, Big Links Controversy & Building Culture · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:02
  Corie: Welcome to the Cory Tepper Podcast.
• 0:04
  Corie: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
• 0:06
  Corie: I'm a little nervous because they team up on Method.
• 0:08
  Corie: We do things one at a time here, you know, but they send the whole clip.
• 0:11
  Corie: Bishop Stania, make sure that the whole clip is here.
• 0:13
  Corie: I want to welcome to the podcast, full blown entertainment, Corey and Kevin Holy going, gents.
• 0:19
  Kory: Yes, we are very well good.
• 0:20
  Kory: Thanks for having us.
• 0:22
  Corie: My pleasure, it's my pleasure.
• 0:23
  Corie: It's my pleasure.
• 0:24
  Corie: It's our things we had to start on and know.
• 0:26
  Corie: We had to start with first things first, right?
• 0:27
  Corie: Mm-hmm.
• 0:28
  Corie: How much money all you spend on clothes for the carnival season?
• 0:31
  Corie: I've been waiting to ask this question.
• 0:33
  Corie: Since I started this podcast, I waited to have to mention what's all your clothes budget like.
• 0:37
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 0:37
  Corie: So don't give me no fake figure.
• 0:39
  Corie: Wow.
• 0:41
  Kory: Well, we have a secret sweatshop.
• 0:46
  Kevon: Sweatshop don't make a kind of clothes always wait.
• 0:47
  Kevon: Our little nieces and nephews just working now.
• 0:50
  Corie: I thought you were going to wait until he had me down.
• 0:52
  Corie: I would have liked to be on that.
• 0:54
  Corie: We had them working, we had them working.
• 0:55
  Corie: Family business.
• 0:57
  Corie: Family business is good.
• 0:59
  Corie: Family business is good.
• 1:00
  Corie: Congrats on all the success, Jets.
• 1:02
  Corie: Thank you very much.
• 1:02
  Corie: Thank you so much.
• 1:03
  Corie: I know only accustomed to that success.
• 1:04
  Corie: So we will talk about it for a while.
• 1:06
  Corie: Because more and more as I talk to people and I do interviews, I kind of casually say, Who write that boy?
• 1:12
  Corie: They say full blown.
• 1:14
  Corie: And I find like the year that they ride that again, further and further and further and further back.
• 1:18
  Corie: It used to start like 2024, 2023, during COVID, but it going back sometime.
• 1:23
  Corie: You had to go back there, you know.
• 1:24
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:24
  Corie: But I want to start with Leo, they have a song out now.
• 1:27
  Corie: And I tell all they have a trend in the beginning of videos.
• 1:29
  Corie: Like a little sweatshow going on.
• 1:32
  Kory: I notice, I notice.
• 1:34
  Corie: Tell me what is that trend, sir?
• 1:35
  Corie: It starts very beautifully.
• 1:37
  Corie: Beautifully.
• 1:38
  Corie: Beautifully.
• 1:39
  Corie: The videos have a beautiful sound over the years.
• 1:41
  Corie: Over the years.
• 1:41
  Corie: So the song is what?
• 1:42
  Corie: Respectfully yours?
• 1:43
  Corie: Yes, it is.
• 1:44
  Corie: How it's going?
• 1:44
  Corie: How it bubbling it going?
• 1:45
  Corie: Very good.
• 1:46
  Corie: Better than we expected, to be honest.
• 1:48
  Corie: Um, I mean, I guess our faces out there now and people kind of have their eyes on us.
• 1:55
  Corie: So now that we release once, I think once we keep releasing quality, the people gravitate it.
• 2:01
  Corie: So we're just happy for the response.
• 2:02
  Corie: So this ain't not feeling like pressure from last year and that kind of thing.
• 2:06
  Corie: That's that artist pressure on you.
• 2:09
  Kory: Nah, nah.
• 2:10
  Kory: For me, no, nah.
• 2:12
  Kory: Reason being, I think ever since we started doing music, we create from a very free place, and we never ever felt pressure to do anything that is not really ourselves, like it's us.
• 2:28
  Kory: Funny enough, yesterday I was having a phone conversation with Marshall.
• 2:33
  Kory: He called me, he looking for a certain type of song, you see.
• 2:37
  Kory: And I say, you know what?
• 2:39
  Kory: See, and since we were since we became artists, like I think I've been so focused a lot on what we're going to put out for ourselves as artists that I know some of the artists that we usually work with not hearing from us as often now, boys.
• 2:57
  Kory: You know, and I say that you know, sometimes it I sort of feel like I create differently because I focusing just on what we want to say and sing for ourselves.
• 3:08
  Kory: And he says, but that is not a problem for me because at the end of the day, I is full blown too.
• 3:14
  Kory: And what he means is that when we've been creating from the start, and he has the songs that he has done from us is really things that came naturally from us.
• 3:26
  Kory: Yeah.
• 3:26
  Kory: It wasn't any big difference, you know what I mean?
• 3:28
  Kory: So that's why now we don't feel any pressure because we've been creating these things that just came naturally to us.
• 3:35
  Kory: We're not trying to conform to any trend or fad.
• 3:38
  Kory: We're just doing what we like and what we feel maybe the world needs to hear at this point in time.
• 3:43
  Corie: Gotcha.
• 3:44
  Corie: And Corey, you say once we point out quality, you're comfortable.
• 3:46
  Corie: You could be.
• 3:47
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 3:47
  Corie: I'm comfortable.
• 3:48
  Corie: We um we when we started doing soccer, we never had any goal to you know have the most popular song for carnival.
• 3:56
  Corie: Like we were just creating for fun.
• 3:58
  Corie: And then we realized that that was working.
• 4:01
  Corie: So then why change that?
• 4:02
  Corie: Just keep having fun.
• 4:03
  Corie: I got you.
• 4:04
  Corie: I want to ask you how much time for Carnival had the most popular song.
• 4:06
  Corie: You don't go there yet, right?
• 4:08
  Corie: A reference you all making.
• 4:09
  Corie: We talk about it before we start, right?
• 4:10
  Corie: I am real old school.
• 4:12
  Corie: I was outside fetting in a certain era, right?
• 4:14
  Corie: So in the 90s, I tell you, create real problems.
• 4:16
  Corie: Late 90s is when I get to come out my house, but that time only comes in 20, uh, that 2010 to 2020 kind of time, where it dominates some years.
• 4:25
  Corie: Uh only cause problems.
• 4:27
  Corie: But I married now, right?
• 4:28
  Corie: So I can't say somebody problems.
• 4:29
  Corie: I can't specify what the problems are.
• 4:32
  Corie: Right, right.
• 4:33
  Corie: But I like that they have some people, yourselves.
• 4:36
  Corie: I want to say, well, Mevon, Kit, Tano.
• 4:39
  Corie: I have to say uh free song as well.
• 4:42
  Corie: You're seeing uh effort to connect generations, teasure, I must say, as well.
• 4:47
  Corie: Right.
• 4:47
  Corie: And that this song this year, respectfully yours, felt like that.
• 4:50
  Corie: I watched the video really because when I hear it, I automatically know cool sweat.
• 4:54
  Corie: I was outside when crazy singing cool sweat.
• 4:56
  Corie: So I'm looking for two things I looking for the cold sweat dance.
• 4:58
  Corie: Well, you remember the dance, crazy used to be crazy.
• 5:00
  Corie: It's crazy for real.
• 5:01
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 5:02
  Corie: But the video, I see crazy pop out in the end.
• 5:05
  Corie: I want to know which one all the idea that was.
• 5:06
  Corie: Who came up with that with crazy coming out the thing in the yeah, that was my idea.
• 5:11
  Corie: That was my idea.
• 5:12
  Corie: Um, we we definitely wanted them in the video, but at the same time, we didn't want to overdo it.
• 5:17
  Corie: And we wanted to kind of surprise people and let them know that the interpolation of the crazy cold sweat was on purpose and we got permission.
• 5:26
  Corie: So that was important to let people see him and see that he's supporting us too.
• 5:30
  Corie: Of course, of course, yeah.
• 5:31
  Corie: That would be an important part for you, given your careers.
• 5:33
  Corie: That that permission part will be critical.
• 5:35
  Corie: Crazy right.
• 5:36
  Corie: Well, I guess yeah, crazy wouldn't be right.
• 5:38
  Corie: And he wrote his own.
• 5:38
  Corie: Nah, he didn't write that one in particular.
• 5:40
  Corie: Um, Christopher Morris wrote that one.
• 5:42
  Corie: I see, I see, I see.
• 5:43
  Corie: And I was talking about younger generations or people who who outside know how they would respond to songs like those.
• 5:49
  Corie: Like I will use Tejo as an example, right?
• 5:51
  Corie: This year, Teja does a song reference in uh last train to Saturn.
• 5:55
  Corie: That's old, that's properly old.
• 5:56
  Corie: That song is I don't even know it.
• 5:59
  Corie: You don't know it.
• 5:59
  Corie: No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 6:00
  Corie: A staple back then, right?
• 6:02
  Corie: But um, that before my time, too.
• 6:04
  Corie: Okay, but I always appreciate the way he goes about it.
• 6:08
  Corie: And the video, the visuals, he usually used the visual to connect a lot.
• 6:12
  Corie: Yeah, but the visuals seem to be important to you guys too.
• 6:14
  Corie: Y'all typically have videos for for most of your releases, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 6:19
  Corie: So people responding to it well, the idea of cold sweat, and this is not the first time y'all did this, right?
• 6:25
  Kory: Wasi was another one where you connect some generations.
• 6:27
  Kory: Yeah, that was Baron Dance Floor, was the song we kind of base Wasi off of.
• 6:31
  Kory: Dance Floor is the name of the song.
• 6:32
  Corie: Dance Floor, yeah.
• 6:33
  Corie: Oh, I thought that was Melodian Raps to the that's not the same as Dance Floor is the one where you say, Now get in on Wasi.
• 6:39
  Corie: Yeah, oh shit.
• 6:40
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 6:43
  Corie: But you're saying that um I remember you're talking about going to a venue, going to events, and seeing how younger people responding to cool.
• 6:49
  Corie: So it's same kind of thing with Baron.
• 6:51
  Corie: You know the song from before, and you yeah, it was the same thing, it was the same thing.
• 6:56
  Kory: Now that you say it, it clicked because we went to a little um line like with with some of our family members, and that Baron dance floor, come on, and everybody went crazy, bro.
• 7:09
  Kory: Like crazy.
• 7:11
  Kory: And I stand up there, I was like, Corey, you see what's going on here?
• 7:14
  Kory: Like, I couldn't believe it.
• 7:15
  Kory: Old and young, everybody got on the dance floor, and everybody gets it on Wancia.
• 7:21
  Corie: Yeah, but it's one of those songs people get.
• 7:23
  Corie: It's so funny because he he came up to me and he said, How do you think people would receive a song like this from us?
• 7:29
  Corie: And it was just casual, you know, conversation, and I was like, Well, I don't know, you know, and I just left it there.
• 7:36
  Corie: And then the morning after he sent me a song.
• 7:38
  Corie: No lie.
• 7:40
  Corie: He said he sent me the song, and I was like, This is real bad, I gonna produce this because he came up with the you know little chord pattern and that kind of thing, and and he was like, What do you think?
• 7:49
  Corie: I was like, Yeah, we're gonna do this one, yeah.
• 7:51
  Corie: And same thing with the crazy.
• 7:53
  Corie: Um, I always knew that when we went to perform at that event where Crazy was also carded, we looked at the response, the the whole sound system, the lights, everything shut off, and the crowd kept singing cold sweat.
• 8:05
  Corie: And I know the inspiration that we got just in that moment, and I was just waiting on his song, yeah, and he ended up sending it, and I was like, Yeah, we're gonna do this one.
• 8:13
  Corie: So he's the problem.
• 8:14
  Corie: Yeah, I've no problem.
• 8:16
  Corie: I've got a problem.
• 8:17
  Corie: Yeah, see I see where it's coming from.
• 8:20
  Corie: But thanks for that.
• 8:21
  Corie: That is uh that is that important just for me personally.
• 8:23
  Corie: I like to see when those things connect because there's this um two things I hear y'all talk about a lot in interviews as well.
• 8:29
  Corie: The idea that Calypso and Kaisounting is something of the past.
• 8:32
  Corie: I hear y'all refute that a lot, and the idea that our music, our culture is a seasonal thing.
• 8:37
  Corie: Yeah, I don't know.
• 8:38
  Corie: Definitely not combined to that.
• 8:40
  Corie: Definitely not.
• 8:40
  Corie: Happiness is not a seasonal thing, emotions is not seasonal.
• 8:44
  Corie: So why the music?
• 8:45
  Corie: The music to me is tighter emotions, and they could experience those different emotions anytime in the year, so why not have a songtrack for it?
• 8:53
  Corie: Interesting.
• 8:54
  Corie: Interesting.
• 8:55
  Kory: I mean, at the end of the day, we can't downplay the influence that the actual carnival festival has to play, you know what I mean, on the music, but it's not seasonal, you know.
• 9:10
  Kory: Carnival is just, I guess, where it all kind of comes together.
• 9:13
  Corie: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 9:15
  Corie: It could be a lunch and party, what's a culmination point at it?
• 9:19
  Kory: Exactly, exactly.
• 9:20
  Kory: Well, it's have so much different carnivals now throughout the year, is that you know I mean, I don't know.
• 9:24
  Kory: I guess Trinidad is the is kind of the launching part, I guess it's the first.
• 9:28
  Kory: Yeah.
• 9:29
  Kory: And then, you know, it it keeps going throughout the year.
• 9:32
  Corie: But yeah, I heard a fellow, a white fellow from Seattle, right?
• 9:35
  Corie: Come here for business and things.
• 9:36
  Corie: He's a clean conference speaker.
• 9:37
  Corie: So he comes in and he hired on speaking.
• 9:39
  Corie: And we we had him here must be it could be August, September, and brought him back a few years after Drew and Carnival.
• 9:45
  Corie: So we tell him, hey, it's carnival time.
• 9:47
  Corie: And then he's like, So it wasn't Carnival last time.
• 9:49
  Corie: He's like, I told us Carnival, yeah, right.
• 9:51
  Corie: True.
• 9:51
  Corie: He said the way we move and the way we think and the music and the energy.
• 9:54
  Corie: I guess, I guess you're the emotion and the way you feel.
• 9:56
  Corie: Yeah, we really have a rich culture.
• 9:58
  Corie: Uh well, I would love to get to the point where the more of that culture comes out because it tends to get even the word culture tends to get relegated to something.
• 10:06
  Corie: Yes, right.
• 10:08
  Corie: You're right.
• 10:08
  Corie: So I appreciate you all talking about that all the time.
• 10:11
  Corie: Now, when you say emotions and them things being tied to it, I know that y'all, when you initially started off, you all were doing them kind of emotional music, meaning like them kind of music at all, RB and things.
• 10:21
  Corie: I started to feel sad immediately.
• 10:22
  Corie: Seriously, that was where I listened, right?
• 10:24
  Corie: No, I smoked my heart into me.
• 10:28
  Corie: Them days, I wasn't staying around long enough to heart and them days.
• 10:37
  Kory: That is our last name, you know.
• 10:38
  Kory: So we're born with heart.
• 10:39
  Kory: Oh love, he's born with that.
• 10:42
  Kory: He's a writer younger than singer than younger than singing.
• 10:45
  Corie: Evidently, born in heart.
• 10:46
  Corie: Let me say salute to Crystal Heart before we go too far, right?
• 10:49
  Corie: Yeah, she's long.
• 10:49
  Corie: She's called herself Sister Bloom.
• 10:52
  Corie: Sister Bloom.
• 10:54
  Kevon: Rightfully so.
• 10:56
  Corie: So y'all started off in RB.
• 10:58
  Corie: Why RB?
• 10:59
  Corie: But uh y'all just just like the music and went into it?
• 11:03
  Corie: Yeah, we um we grew up on our parents' music.
• 11:07
  Corie: So a lot of that, the stylistics and the them kind of things, like very melodic music.
• 11:14
  Corie: And so when we were looking to find the music that we like as kids, I guess from that melodic music, we gravitate to RB.
• 11:24
  Corie: And so was the boys to men and the you know, them kind of things.
• 11:28
  Corie: And so that is what resonates with us.
• 11:31
  Corie: We we love melodies because to me, when you humming that melody, it gives you an emotion one time.
• 11:36
  Corie: Right.
• 11:36
  Corie: You go through your first heartbreak, as RB you're drawing for.
• 11:39
  Corie: You understand?
• 11:40
  Corie: So Well, now he joined 50 cents or something.
• 11:44
  Kevon: I draw it for replacement.
• 11:45
  Kevon: I draw in for replacement, I draw it for somebody available.
• 11:49
  Corie: But yeah, so so um, and well, him as my older brother, he used to kind of find the music first, and I would kind of listen to what he listened to.
• 11:59
  Corie: So I guess he was kind of instrumental and me latching on to RB, and as kids we would have, you know, you and your little friends, and you're trying to be like boys to men, so they form a little group and all the singing and them kind of things.
• 12:11
  Corie: So um that's that's where it all started.
• 12:13
  Corie: Uh for me at least.
• 12:15
  Corie: Yeah.
• 12:15
  Kory: And well, for me, the lyrics is the main thing for me.
• 12:21
  Kory: Like if I hear some for the first time, some people just hear the beat and me, I listening to what you're saying.
• 12:28
  Kory: I want to know what you have to say.
• 12:30
  Kory: And if it's not hitting me, then honorally into it.
• 12:35
  Kory: So for me, like RB music and well, some of the pop music had like substance lyrically.
• 12:42
  Kory: So that really resonated with me.
• 12:44
  Kory: I think that's why I like that kind of music.
• 12:47
  Corie: I understand.
• 12:47
  Corie: Yeah, and for most people like myself, and when I when you talk the age you're talking about there, and when I listened to my parents' music, it would'll be like still Caribbean music, real dance hall and real calypso and that kind of things, but it never dawned on me to like write a calypso.
• 13:00
  Corie: So, how you went from listening to RB to the side neighbor and write something.
• 13:05
  Kory: Well, he should give the story about how we started in music.
• 13:09
  Corie: Well, the the first thing I just go back to is when I was in form three.
• 13:15
  Corie: What school is it?
• 13:16
  Corie: St.
• 13:16
  Corie: George's College.
• 13:17
  Corie: So he was in possibly form six, lower six or something.
• 13:22
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:24
  Kory: Or upper six.
• 13:25
  Corie: George's two.
• 13:25
  Corie: Nah, he was.
• 13:26
  Corie: Oh my god.
• 13:28
  Kevon: Wow.
• 13:29
  Corie: Here we go.
• 13:29
  Corie: Start to look I I I also attended QRC for a couple months.
• 13:34
  Corie: Oh man.
• 13:34
  Corie: But yeah, we'll get to that.
• 13:36
  Corie: We'll get to that story after.
• 13:37
  Corie: But yeah, in form three had a biology project to present on pollution.
• 13:43
  Corie: And uh I did not do my homework, right?
• 13:47
  Corie: So it was the night before we had to present, and I said, Kevin, help me with this now, boy.
• 13:53
  Corie: Because you could do um, you could have printouts and whatever, but the teacher said he could also sing if you want, like you could do anything.
• 14:01
  Corie: Okay, and I know he liked to fool a wrong, and we just remix song and make it funny, and then kind of thing.
• 14:07
  Corie: So he came up with this um Hawkeye had a song, the dance whole artist, Hawkeye.
• 14:11
  Corie: He had um um I can't remember what Hawkeye's song was, but what he wrote was I'm the pollution guy.
• 14:19
  Corie: Can't stop me no matter how them I try.
• 14:22
  Corie: Right?
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: And yeah, he write he writes a whole thing for me.
• 14:26
  Corie: And I went in front of the class and beat any desk and IRL mash up.
• 14:29
  Corie: Right?
• 14:31
  Corie: And we never did nothing after that.
• 14:33
  Corie: Well, immediately after, but it also always stuck in my head that we could do that.
• 14:37
  Corie: Right?
• 14:38
  Corie: And then fast forward to when I attended QRC, the guys who were playing Intercall with me, they used to go home and mess around on the computer making beats.
• 14:49
  Corie: That was the first time I saw how music was digitally created, and it blew my mind because I love music, but I never gave thought to how this make it.
• 14:57
  Corie: Of course.
• 14:58
  Corie: And so when I saw that, I went home and immediately said, Kevin, we had to do this.
• 15:03
  Corie: And I asked my partner for the program, install it, and Kevin and I started play around with it.
• 15:08
  Corie: And what was our hobby turned into a career?
• 15:11
  Corie: Yeah, hell of a career.
• 15:12
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:13
  Corie: So at that point in time, you envisioning anything like what 2025 was for y'all when all this starts?
• 15:19
  Corie: No way, because because we start off Adam and that we're not writing soccer.
• 15:23
  Corie: But you know, it's interesting.
• 15:24
  Corie: But I hear y'all say that all the time, and I hear y'all say at least at least one of you is always saying we're never gonna perform, right?
• 15:30
  Corie: You say never.
• 15:31
  Kory: You're never gonna say that all the time.
• 15:33
  Corie: And then 2025 became a year where them two things, them things went audio a long time.
• 15:37
  Corie: One went from Lily, totally audio.
• 15:39
  Corie: But it's interesting because you're talking about that first thing, that first step into it being performing.
• 15:44
  Corie: You had to perform this song.
• 15:45
  Corie: You come up with this song and you and you perform it.
• 15:47
  Corie: And a lot of people like I when I tell people, uh, you know, full blown on, even when I was by um Salute Scorch and Hoppy and they are doing the top 100 list 101.
• 15:57
  Corie: It was real interesting because it has Hoppy and them who's in the 40s, like we.
• 16:02
  Corie: And then it has some youth men who working with Hoppy though, who's might be they may 25 yet.
• 16:07
  Corie: Yeah.
• 16:07
  Corie: And it's to hear what I meant when we play a super blue, they meant say, This is what all they was listening to.
• 16:13
  Corie: Yeah, they're all they have any top 10.
• 16:14
  Corie: Yeah.
• 16:14
  Corie: So the the the the the the gap had a bridge, right?
• 16:17
  Corie: They had they're they hear it and understand it.
• 16:18
  Corie: But I remember them saying full blown, no, they said cut in.
• 16:22
  Corie: Was it cut in?
• 16:23
  Corie: Somebody they were saying needed to be on the list, right?
• 16:26
  Corie: Because it's the first person who was ever a writer or a producer who sang a song.
• 16:30
  Corie: And I say, now we have some work to do in this culture because I mean that happened many, many, many, many times before.
• 16:35
  Corie: And they did say that uh young, they're young, they're young, you can't blame them.
• 16:39
  Corie: That's crazy.
• 16:39
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 16:41
  Corie: But y'all y'all sitting in that space all the time, and in that room, they said, Well, you know, full blown.
• 16:48
  Corie: It might be all that they're talking about, and no, come it's important.
• 16:49
  Corie: They say full blown is the first group who do it, and they're talking about uh this uh big links rhythm as the first time y'all singing a song, but full of lovers y'all first produced and published song.
• 16:59
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:00
  Corie: How it felt to make that step then to go and what changed your mind?
• 17:05
  Kory: It was mostly the pandemic, I think.
• 17:07
  Kory: You know, um we had the change of mind.
• 17:10
  Kory: We had no, yeah, yeah.
• 17:12
  Kory: I was gonna say boy, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:15
  Kory: It's a combination of a lot of things, but um, yeah, we had no work, obviously, you know, because nothing happening in so car, so and we had just started building our own studio, so we already invested in this thing, and then we're not making any money, all right, right, and nobody asking for songs or anything like that.
• 17:39
  Kory: So we ended up in the studio, well, building the studio, and we we ended up finding our sound, like we just started to create things randomly with no thought about what we gonna do with this.
• 17:54
  Kory: We just started to create and the things that were coming out, we started wondering, well, what we gonna do with it?
• 18:04
  Kory: Because a lot of the soccer artists, this may not be the lane they want to go down, these might not be the topics they want to sing about.
• 18:11
  Kory: Um, artists who focus on fets and you know getting bookings for those fets, they're they what they want to do in terms of mashing up fets and getting people to raise their rag and jump might not be might not fit what we just created, this body of work, you know what I mean?
• 18:27
  Kory: Because it's like every day we were just putting out spitting out songs.
• 18:31
  Kory: So we decided, well, you know what?
• 18:35
  Kory: We wouldn't even have to perform it because it's a pandemic right now.
• 18:39
  Kory: Let's just put out something and see.
• 18:42
  Kory: So we we had one song full of love, and then we decided, well, let's make it a rhythm so that other artists on it and their names could help propel, you know what I mean?
• 18:52
  Kory: Because if we just put out a song, nobody might know or care or want to know what we're singing.
• 18:59
  Kory: So we wrote other songs on the rhythm to try to, you know what I mean?
• 19:08
  Kevon: I mean, thankfully we've been in the market.
• 19:11
  Kevon: What market in the time?
• 19:12
  Kevon: Wow, yeah.
• 19:15
  Kevon: If she impassed, I can't get paid for her.
• 19:20
  Kory: Wow, yeah.
• 19:20
  Kory: So you had that in mind you're spending.
• 19:22
  Kory: That's just that's how it started.
• 19:25
  Kory: Um, especially because we we thought, well, you know, we wouldn't necessarily have to fight up to go and perform or anything like that.
• 19:32
  Kory: Let's just see how people respond to it when they hear it.
• 19:34
  Kory: Right, right.
• 19:35
  Corie: You know, similar to what you're saying about just having fun, just being true to yourself.
• 19:39
  Kory: Yeah, it makes sense.
• 19:40
  Corie: That's how we started.
• 19:40
  Corie: So initially, that follow love, it's not like you were performing it anywhere.
• 19:43
  Corie: Place locked down.
• 19:44
  Corie: Yeah, we were talking about it.
• 19:45
  Corie: So this uh 2025, you would say with good spirits, it's your first time you're really performing and out there doing it, or you're just performing a lassi ending.
• 19:51
  Corie: I see all the on records.
• 19:52
  Corie: When we had a wassi, what was he was out there?
• 19:55
  Kory: We do that.
• 19:56
  Kory: Yeah.
• 19:58
  Kory: Um, Kessler.
• 19:59
  Kory: Booked us for Is We for Is We.
• 20:02
  Kory: Yeah, that was the only booking we got when we had that song.
• 20:05
  Kory: Imagine that.
• 20:06
  Kory: Like partists.
• 20:07
  Kory: Yeah.
• 20:08
  Kory: Yeah.
• 20:08
  Kory: But but Kess called us and he was like, bro, I love that song.
• 20:12
  Kory: Like, you know what I mean?
• 20:12
  Kory: I'd like all it to come and yeah.
• 20:14
  Corie: I guess Kess is one of them who was always connected to everything.
• 20:16
  Corie: For sure.
• 20:17
  Corie: Are you another um reference um with Vince Joker?
• 20:22
  Kory: Yeah, he wrote um the dance floor.
• 20:24
  Kory: Everything.
• 20:26
  Corie: Yeah, everything's ridiculous.
• 20:27
  Corie: Yeah.
• 20:27
  Corie: So that's what I was telling you before we start.
• 20:29
  Corie: Like, it's been the thing.
• 20:30
  Corie: Like when I look at y'all and the songs that you all contribute over the over the 10-12 years, I tell people all the time, I say these fellas go end up with Joker and then up with a week because they're amount of songs.
• 20:39
  Corie: I remember when he passed away, I'd done a dedication episode.
• 20:42
  unknown: Okay.
• 20:42
  Corie: And I just used to talk and play the song.
• 20:44
  Corie: And it's just ridiculous.
• 20:45
  Corie: How many artists he makes the most iconic song?
• 20:49
  Corie: Yeah.
• 20:50
  Corie: Which we all you all fall in that space.
• 20:52
  Corie: So we had to talk big lengths.
• 20:53
  Corie: I think is a big is a big change for people.
• 20:55
  Corie: Good spirits are going out there.
• 20:56
  Corie: They respond for it is different from when again for Wasi by Kiss.
• 20:59
  Corie: People respond in differently how they respond when you went out by Kiss.
• 21:02
  Corie: And they call out full blown and all he went on with Wasi.
• 21:05
  Corie: Yeah, nobody really respond.
• 21:07
  Corie: Life of artists.
• 21:08
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:09
  Corie: But but we we knew that.
• 21:10
  Corie: We know about that.
• 21:11
  Corie: We know about that.
• 21:11
  Corie: Oh, the does not bother to you.
• 21:13
  Corie: Nah, because that don't mean that the song is not good.
• 21:16
  Corie: It just means that the people who show up there show up for a specific reason and we're not fulfilling that.
• 21:21
  Corie: So them come to seek us, they come to, you know, maybe the energy, high energy songs, that kind of thing.
• 21:27
  Corie: And our song is a kind of slower, more listening music, I would say.
• 21:31
  Corie: So yeah, we wasn't looking to mash up no crowd.
• 21:34
  Corie: We just wanted to introduce ourselves to them.
• 21:36
  Corie: That's real interesting.
• 21:37
  Corie: So you're confident that the song is good regardless of what the response is.
• 21:40
  Corie: Yeah.
• 21:41
  Kory: Oh, for sure.
• 21:41
  Kory: Yeah.
• 21:42
  Kory: For sure.
• 21:43
  Kory: We don't put out anything that's not good though.
• 21:46
  Corie: Now you see, you see, let me put it in perspective, right?
• 21:48
  Corie: Is how much billion people on the world in the world.
• 21:52
  Corie: I could put my head on a block.
• 21:54
  Corie: I'm not the only person like what I like.
• 21:56
  Corie: Some other people like it too.
• 21:57
  Corie: Even if they're not in Iswe at that on that night, that don't mean that they sound not good.
• 22:03
  Corie: Nobody in Izwe could like it.
• 22:04
  Corie: I could go to Taiwan and find some people who like it.
• 22:08
  Corie: Like that, that's how we just think.
• 22:09
  Corie: It has a much wider world to think about.
• 22:12
  Kory: Yeah, remember on the night of Izwe selector Himu.
• 22:15
  Kory: Japanese.
• 22:18
  Kory: Okay.
• 22:19
  Kory: Came up to us and was like, full blown.
• 22:21
  Kory: And that blew my mind.
• 22:23
  Kory: Yeah.
• 22:23
  Kory: I'm not going to lie to you.
• 22:24
  Kory: Because locals don't even know who we are.
• 22:26
  Kory: Yeah.
• 22:26
  Kory: She's like, we play your song all the time in Japan, full of love, and washi.
• 22:30
  Kory: That's what she said.
• 22:32
  Kory: I suppose.
• 22:32
  Kory: So it was crazy to me that that's that opened my eyes to, you know what I mean?
• 22:38
  Kory: Yeah.
• 22:39
  Kory: And it gave me a lot of confidence too.
• 22:41
  Kory: You know, because for a good while we performed to nobody really knowing the song, knowing us.
• 22:48
  Kory: And we we had to kind of teach them what we're trying to do, what we're trying, you know.
• 22:53
  Kory: Of course.
• 22:53
  Kory: Trinidad is not is not an easy crowd as well.
• 22:57
  Corie: But too only easy because you start by saying you have no pressure going into this year, and you're confident with it with the songs at your point.
• 23:03
  Corie: It's a good place to be.
• 23:05
  Corie: So when you're doing big links with them, you know this is going to take over the world kind of thing at that point in time.
• 23:09
  Corie: You mean when we were when you're working on it initially, like your initials started working on it?
• 23:13
  Corie: Oh nah.
• 23:14
  Corie: Just going for quality, having fun.
• 23:16
  Corie: Yeah, we know it was good music, but we had no idea what the response would have been like.
• 23:21
  Kory: It was similar to when we had Full of Love and that rhythm, the palm wine rhythm.
• 23:24
  Kory: Right.
• 23:25
  Kory: Um, we did Good Spirits first.
• 23:27
  Kory: That was the first song we wrote.
• 23:30
  Kory: Um, well, when when Corey Corey was producing, he was making a beat.
• 23:35
  Kory: We didn't have any songs.
• 23:37
  Kory: And again, we were just in his studio just creating no purpose.
• 23:43
  Kory: No purpose.
• 23:44
  Kory: We just there.
• 23:45
  Kory: And when we found the beat or the or the the foundation of it, we know it had something in it.
• 23:56
  Kory: Okay, we know that for sure.
• 23:58
  Kory: But I mean, if you don't have a song yet, I mean, you know, you're not gonna put your rhythm on radio.
• 24:03
  Kory: So when we when I I I went home and I did um Good Spirits, I I wrote the song with the intention for you all to sing it.
• 24:12
  Kory: For sure, because it's a true story, it's it's our story, nobody else could have sing that song.
• 24:16
  Kory: So it's like when we had our one song, it's like, yeah, this song is a good song, for sure.
• 24:23
  Kory: Again, is the general public gonna pay attention to it if it's just us, or should we call on our friends?
• 24:34
  Kory: Call the Avengers and family, you know what I mean?
• 24:38
  Kory: So it's like, all right, let's do what we do best and go and write some more.
• 24:42
  Kory: And then we did um we did the Marshall.
• 24:45
  Kory: Alright.
• 24:46
  Kory: That came second.
• 24:47
  Kory: That was the second one.
• 24:49
  Corie: And Marshall was like, Well, am I here all the one too now?
• 24:52
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:53
  Corie: Because if only one better go and think that one.
• 24:55
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:55
  Corie: Everybody who writes some here is gonna say, Marshall wanna buy all this ticket.
• 25:00
  Kory: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:01
  Kory: So he was good with where you came from.
• 25:03
  Kory: Yeah, he he he he loved this song, and I actually had liked it more than good spirits at a point in time.
• 25:11
  Kory: But um, so yeah, we had those two, and then we was like, Well, let me just keep going.
• 25:17
  Kory: At that point in time, I think we said, let's try to get one of the young Zess artists on it because of the how the rhythm was sounding with the Zest knock.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:27
  Kory: Um, and we were thinking, Young brother, because he writes a lot of his songs, so it's less work for us.
• 25:32
  Kory: You know, we don't have to write another song.
• 25:34
  Kory: You know, we don't have to write another song, but we wanted to meet with him and you know, let him come in the studio and because we never met him like that before.
• 25:42
  Kory: Gotcha.
• 25:42
  Kory: Um, but that was taking a while to happen, so we ended up having a studio session with Kes and for something else.
• 25:50
  Kory: Play the rhythm for him, by the way, and he was like, hey, this bad.
• 25:54
  Kory: We started just coming up with ideas there, and we started the idea for no sweetness.
• 26:00
  Kory: Then we meet up with young brother, and when they came in the studio, the first thing we play was the rhythm, and he actually was kind of disappointed because he was like a lot of people feel well, you know, it's this and and thing, and people play these kind of things somehow all the time and want to give me these kind of songs, but yeah, you know, you want to gain it so we quickly move on to yeah, we play other things, yeah.
• 26:24
  Kory: Play other things and we finished no sweetness, so we added three songs.
• 26:28
  Kory: Keep asking Corey, three songs should be enough as Marshall Kiss, yeah, yeah, and full blown.
• 26:33
  Kory: Like we should be, but something we always keep coming back, like nah, we need uh we need the young brother.
• 26:39
  Kory: That was the last song we wrote.
• 26:41
  Corie: Oh, so you decide you're just gonna write and present it back to him.
• 26:44
  Kory: No, well, they told us if if if we want him on the rhythm, no symbol, they'll write the song.
• 26:48
  Corie: Oh, I see, I see, I see.
• 26:49
  Kory: So the time he came initially, you know, anything written yet.
• 26:51
  Kory: You hope and you know.
• 26:51
  Kory: No, no, it was just the beat.
• 26:52
  Kory: Yeah, we just hope you like it and that you know you like.
• 26:56
  Corie: I mean, in all fairness, nobody might listen to that beat by itself and envision a mainstream soccer song.
• 27:02
  Corie: Really, because the beat different from mainstream soccer beats now.
• 27:05
  Corie: So, like in retrospect, I I could see that.
• 27:08
  Corie: I could see why you may not have believed that that beat would have been it.
• 27:11
  Corie: Right.
• 27:11
  Corie: But the way it was written, and then when we add the guitars, um, Kyle had added guitars for us and that kind of thing.
• 27:17
  Corie: So it really came together nice.
• 27:19
  Corie: Yeah, a couple things to that rhythm.
• 27:21
  Corie: Like I heard you're saying that the that whole tableau role and trying to put his S element in it would have come from what um Tano and them that done with Marshall.
• 27:28
  Corie: Yes, with his Calypso song the previous year.
• 27:31
  Corie: Yeah, it was an interesting thing.
• 27:32
  Corie: When I heard it the first time, I was like, all right, well, of course you're gonna win the Calypso Motor.
• 27:36
  Corie: I was like, all right, this man gonna win Calypso Motor for sure.
• 27:38
  Corie: He didn't say nothing to lose.
• 27:39
  Corie: Yeah, like but I saw that again in the same team of trying to connect the younger with you.
• 27:45
  Corie: If you remember his performance when he came out, he had Crook Run on his stage with him.
• 27:49
  Corie: I believe he brings Watchman on the stage with him too.
• 27:51
  Corie: So or Trinidad Rio, just to connect that thing and make it into and along with like school training.
• 27:58
  Corie: That's right.
• 28:00
  Corie: Plain pan, right?
• 28:01
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:01
  Corie: So it was a real way of connecting them two things.
• 28:04
  Corie: I realized in earlier whether it's videos or songs or they have a way of putting Lister eggs and things, I hear them and I see them sometimes.
• 28:10
  Corie: Storytelling is important.
• 28:12
  Corie: Um, it's the same reason why podcasts become popular in this era because people want to hear stories.
• 28:19
  Corie: Yeah, it's not just about talent anymore because the world has um millions of talented people.
• 28:24
  Corie: But what would cut true is if you have a good story to tell.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:28
  Corie: And so visually, we feel like we same way how we say we split out songs during the pandemic, we have ideas for videos on top of video.
• 28:36
  Corie: Like all of our videos is we our ideas.
• 28:38
  Corie: Really?
• 28:39
  Corie: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Corie: Like we conceptualize from the time you write the song, we already know how we want to tell the story.
• 28:44
  Corie: If it wants, if it needs to be how the song says, or if it needs to be counter to what the song says to kind of expand their mind to what the song could be speaking about, and you know, so yeah, um, the storytelling is important, so that's why visual is important.
• 28:58
  Corie: Well, let's talk about our storytelling now because our rhythm had real controversy around it, right?
• 29:02
  Corie: Let's go to the Kutcher Bacanal Kanker and Lacquery commerce.
• 29:05
  Corie: We could deal with all that now, too.
• 29:06
  Corie: We spoke Tanya, stay here.
• 29:08
  Corie: Let me just take a sip.
• 29:09
  Corie: Yeah, take a sip, take a sip.
• 29:10
  Corie: Tanya, Tanya, let's stay here for this part.
• 29:12
  Kory: Time for the bacchanal couple.
• 29:13
  Corie: I see an artist in this carnival 2025, right?
• 29:16
  Corie: Because the rhythm, there's a few things I want to say about the rhythms, right?
• 29:18
  Corie: The rhythm just keeps getting better and better every time you hear it.
• 29:21
  Corie: As a fan, because some chords I could play on the quatra, and I could go and sing in little parang and thing, right?
• 29:28
  Corie: So Christmas all done, we get something to go and play.
• 29:30
  Corie: So I look in the forward, then I go paramiliting them thing.
• 29:32
  Corie: Right.
• 29:32
  Corie: And I hear them a good spirit.
• 29:34
  Corie: We haven't had time.
• 29:35
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:35
  Corie: I see a different song be the biggest song on the rhythm, almost week to week to week.
• 29:40
  Corie: It just keeps rotating.
• 29:41
  Corie: One minute, everybody loves the cast, then they love all of it.
• 29:44
  Corie: It just keeps rotating around.
• 29:45
  Corie: And then the the the songs felt so personal to each person I sing it.
• 29:51
  Corie: Y'all say your song was about Oli.
• 29:52
  Corie: But I see a man get in trouble, whole kind of alpha.
• 29:55
  Corie: So I'm glad to hear the two men here who really ride the thing, you know what I mean?
• 29:58
  Corie: Because the man says I believe in the truth.
• 30:00
  Corie: I just want to live good.
• 30:02
  Corie: I don't want no dirty secrets fighting me and you.
• 30:05
  Corie: That lyrics.
• 30:06
  Corie: Yes.
• 30:06
  Corie: I could only drive one car at a time, but I still want two.
• 30:10
  Corie: And everybody asked, Marshall, but what you want two cars for?
• 30:12
  Corie: You're married.
• 30:13
  Corie: But I have the men here who really wanted the two cars only ride that way.
• 30:16
  Corie: Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
• 30:19
  Kory: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 30:20
  Kory: We are not the men who wanted the two cars.
• 30:28
  Kory: We are the men who wrote the lyrics to suit the artists.
• 30:31
  Kory: So how do you know he wants two cars, boy?
• 30:32
  Kory: We have been writing for Marshall since 2012 11.
• 30:37
  Kory: Before you married.
• 30:38
  Kory: Correct.
• 30:39
  Kory: And only knowing two cars.
• 30:41
  Kory: Since he was with different exes, etc.
• 30:43
  Kory: Wow.
• 30:44
  Kory: You understand?
• 30:45
  Kory: Take a sip too.
• 30:46
  Kory: Yeah.
• 30:46
  Kory: So we we know we know what he wants to sing.
• 30:52
  Kory: Evidently.
• 30:53
  Kory: No, we know what he doing.
• 30:54
  Kory: We don't know what he wants to do.
• 30:56
  Kory: We know what he wants to sing.
• 30:57
  Kory: No, you can't.
• 30:58
  Kory: Like, like, like, like I knew now, like I knew that song in terms of what it was saying, how it was said, you know what I mean?
• 31:11
  Kory: It was clever, it was witty, it was thought-provoking.
• 31:14
  Kory: Yeah, you know, that's that's what Marsha will sell.
• 31:18
  Kory: Easy, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:20
  Kory: You know, so yeah, I I know that was him.
• 31:23
  Corie: Well, if I was married like him, and they asked me that question, I would have just said Corey and Kevon Hart, grandchildren of Eddie Hart.
• 31:31
  Corie: Check for them, fellas.
• 31:32
  Corie: Ask them.
• 31:32
  Corie: Ask them.
• 31:33
  Corie: I wasn't answering that, but he went and said I vibrated on a high frequency.
• 31:37
  Corie: He answered that question.
• 31:40
  Corie: He's a brave man.
• 31:41
  Kory: Yeah, the brave man.
• 31:42
  Kory: And and he he went on to say that if the men could do it, the woman could do it too.
• 31:46
  Kory: Well, it's not gonna ask all this the right one for me, but I know I don't know.
• 31:50
  Corie: If we are too carried, we help me the next time we have two is enough.
• 31:56
  Corie: But again, I saw where that was the first one I feel like when people, and I'm not sure how y'all felt that was the first song that see people really hold on to it, like with Marshall, because immediately when it starts coming out, people start making their parallels, our married man, and for sure, yeah.
• 32:10
  Corie: And he plays into it, he lean all the way into it, and it was enough to be a real big carnival for him.
• 32:15
  Corie: Yeah, but the young brothers are interesting one too, because I think that maybe just like him, I suppose, people wanted to see people like me, wanted to see him in different spaces.
• 32:23
  Corie: A man just continue evolving, he never stopped changing.
• 32:27
  Corie: Yes, and it is is it is refreshing to hear y'all say that that was deliberate.
• 32:31
  Corie: I want to know if it's it just happened by chance and he hear the rhythm and he likes it.
• 32:35
  Corie: But writing a song like that for somebody like him, how you put yourself in them spaces?
• 32:39
  Corie: Because Marshall, you're writing for since um yeah, since he had two cars and thing, right?
• 32:43
  Corie: You see, but now now you're writing for somebody who first time, yeah, and that's difficult.
• 32:50
  Kory: It's difficult because I am not a big Zest fan.
• 32:54
  Kory: It's not to say I Israel is sitting and listen to Zest in my free time, you know.
• 33:01
  Kory: So with Marshall and other soccer artists, like I'm more like familiar with the style and I understand the sound and the lifestyle and and what they want to say, you know what I mean?
• 33:15
  Kory: But um, so with young brother, it was really different.
• 33:19
  Kory: And I I guess it's similar to like what we did when we did People's Champ for Benji, Benji, yeah.
• 33:28
  Kory: You know what I mean?
• 33:29
  Kory: You just had to put yourself in the artist's place, like how would they sound what might they want to say, how would they want to say it?
• 33:39
  Kory: Um we started, but we wanted to mix it with our vibe, and so I remember I always remember we were in the studio listening, just listening to the rhythm over and over, trying to find an idea.
• 33:52
  Kory: And we was hungry, so Corey leaves to go and get doubles.
• 33:55
  Kory: And while he left, I don't know what it is, but I started singing the um Let me Cater to You, I say cater to me.
• 34:06
  Kory: That part I put I record it, I put it on and the the chorus, she said take it, right?
• 34:16
  Kory: Yeah when he came back, I played that for him, and he was like, That is it, that bad.
• 34:22
  Kory: So he was when he hear it now, he tells me to take that um, she said, Let me cater to you, take that from add it as an intro.
• 34:30
  Corie: Yeah, just add it as an intro.
• 34:31
  Corie: And he was like, bro, this too bad.
• 34:33
  Kory: This can't this have to come about so we just use that, keep that coming back, keep that coming back.
• 34:39
  Kory: And when we had that patterned out, then it's like, well, all right, the verses obviously had to be young brother style, like you know what I mean.
• 34:47
  Corie: I I was like, it had it had to be dance hall style where the verses short, right?
• 34:51
  Corie: And going back to the catchy part one, yeah, yeah, it felt that way because even when you listen to the stats of the at least the three songs, yours, Marshall, and Young Brother, never kind of dance all starts, right?
• 35:01
  Kory: Yeah, and I think that is why the the the rhythm itself catchy youths catch a lot of youths, it catch Jamaicans too, yeah.
• 35:09
  Kory: Serious, they they pick it up in vibes cartel concert the other day, yeah.
• 35:14
  Corie: The one he does or the one he didn't come for?
• 35:16
  Corie: Nothing to that in Canada, in Canada, not the one that was to happen, yeah.
• 35:24
  Corie: The one in Canada, um, they were running a dance hall set to eventually introduce cartel and they play two songs on the big link's rhythm in that dance hall set.
• 35:33
  Kory: Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice.
• 35:35
  Corie: And then Conscience, what was conscience?
• 35:36
  Corie: Yeah, conscience performing in Miami and he just running the rhythm and singing his songs on big link's rhythm.
• 35:42
  Corie: Oh shit, it makes sense.
• 35:43
  Corie: Yeah, it makes sense.
• 35:44
  Corie: I drift in a way for a minute, right?
• 35:45
  Corie: When you bring up the rhythms and singing the songs on the rhythms, I always wondered, even as well, y'all making connections between artists over the years, right?
• 35:52
  Corie: Jamaica have a way where, like, okay, when I listen to Bounty Killer when he now comes out, he was singing on a lot of the rhythms that make Shaber big.
• 36:00
  Corie: Like Pini Wally and Punani rhythm.
• 36:02
  Corie: All his biggest songs in that early 90s era is was rhythms that make Shaba real big.
• 36:07
  Corie: Right.
• 36:08
  Corie: And then Cartel does the same thing.
• 36:09
  Corie: I always wonder if rhythms, because they have a whole catalogue of rhythms.
• 36:12
  Corie: We beyond the right and all they have a lot of produced rhythms.
• 36:15
  Corie: We you think we have a space to bring back older rhythms in the way that Jamaica does do it?
• 36:20
  Corie: Um maybe not the entire rhythm wholesale, but for example, what we did with Respectfully Yours.
• 36:31
  Corie: If you listen to the drums, very similar to Dr.
• 36:34
  Corie: Cassandra.
• 36:35
  Corie: Very similar to Stacey Sober's um, let me know when you're coming.
• 36:41
  Corie: It was that era we draw from.
• 36:43
  Corie: So I think like from the time you hear them Dr.
• 36:47
  Corie: Cassandra drums, it gets in that vibe.
• 36:50
  Corie: You don't even have to know what lyrics come in next once they hear them drums.
• 36:54
  Corie: You understand?
• 36:54
  Corie: And I think Soka has a lot of space for that because it does an untapped thing.
• 36:59
  Corie: So, same point you're making.
• 37:00
  Corie: Yeah, I definitely think we could do that and again help bridge the gap.
• 37:05
  Corie: Yeah.
• 37:05
  Corie: Because it's not that the drum song old, it's just that they had a finer way to put the new on the old.
• 37:12
  Corie: Of course, of course.
• 37:13
  Corie: Like it's the same thing.
• 37:13
  Corie: Like when I look at Antilles' friends are asking case, you know what I mean?
• 37:16
  Corie: Is here like if you do a re-release of the thing, the same way Russian do a re-release, right?
• 37:20
  Corie: It'll be nice to hear youths now like lava and them.
• 37:23
  Corie: I would love it to hear what they come up with on them.
• 37:26
  Corie: And yeah, make it make it more modern, whatever you had to do.
• 37:29
  Corie: But if if they come up with it, so the rhythm bubbling and going all over the place at that point.
• 37:33
  Corie: You have a you have a before really established bona fide hits.
• 37:37
  Corie: You only know where it is to do whole rhythm and have it all over the world already.
• 37:40
  Corie: So you seeing that happening.
• 37:42
  Corie: Any idea that the young brother going with it it ends up?
• 37:47
  Kory: Definitely not.
• 37:48
  Kory: I I didn't that was wild, bro.
• 37:51
  Corie: No, now the thing is I knew it was real catchy.
• 37:54
  Corie: Cause you know, well, it's not a thing I just say, I can't remember where I got it from.
• 37:58
  Corie: You mustn't get high off your own supply.
• 38:00
  Corie: So I don't like to take one the songs that we do too much now, but it's a very few that yeah, that's from the shoots saying from the shoots.
• 38:09
  Corie: Big of a remark.
• 38:11
  Corie: But yeah, it's uh it's a very few that we do that I just I just can't get this out of my head.
• 38:18
  Corie: And that was one of them.
• 38:19
  Corie: Yeah, I would be driving and randomly sing that one and because the melody is so sweet, and uh so I knew it was some there's something special about this one, but I think with the modern era it's not just about talent or what you do, it's about timing as well, and everything happened at the right time.
• 38:38
  Corie: Spotify was down here in Trinidad Carnival, they heard the song, they love the song.
• 38:43
  Corie: They make a call to a record label in the UK, record label Fly Down to Meet With Us, and them kind of thing, and so that too helped propel the song and end up Sean Paul remix, Chloe Bailey remix grenade flag missing.
• 38:56
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, sorry, grenade.
• 39:00
  Kory: It was a year of controversy, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:03
  Kory: It's a year of controversy.
• 39:05
  Corie: Yeah, because you know you know the tell we be teeth the zest thing and yeah, they say all it's it all in just teeth the zest thing, you teeth the tableau roll.
• 39:12
  Corie: Yeah, no, so so then you keep me ready.
• 39:14
  Corie: Maybe I should say somebody tableau roll thing.
• 39:16
  Corie: It's the same thing we were saying when we started off.
• 39:18
  Corie: I uh again, I my age prevents me from listening to Trinity Bad and Zest for too long.
• 39:23
  Corie: If a real good song comes out, I will like it, but that music could defined me.
• 39:26
  Corie: Right.
• 39:27
  Corie: I don't listen to music generally.
• 39:28
  Corie: I go in a fet and hear music the first time.
• 39:30
  Corie: Funny enough for you too.
• 39:31
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:31
  Corie: Here, let's say all let's go play mass.
• 39:33
  Corie: We should address this one time too, you know.
• 39:34
  Corie: If it was causing destruction and then stay no man.
• 39:37
  Corie: But that's uh it's not that's not new.
• 39:41
  Corie: No.
• 39:41
  Corie: What did what what the youths and them do with it?
• 39:44
  Corie: Yeah, I respect that.
• 39:45
  Corie: I I I respect every innovator and creator because dread, even to see that, I feel good when I hear that have about 300 songs on that that original.
• 39:53
  Corie: Yes, yes.
• 39:54
  Corie: But I still let youths do that.
• 39:55
  Corie: I don't care what it's sing about the lyrical content, I think you could debate that, but yeah.
• 39:59
  Corie: Express yourself as a youth, you know.
• 40:01
  Corie: I mean, when you reach 40, you go the gunman thing, it will fade, but not as interesting, you know what I mean?
• 40:07
  Corie: Or the crass lyrics and them kind of thing.
• 40:09
  Corie: So before I get all this song on the rhythm, I'd have to talk about the other song on the rhythm, right?
• 40:13
  Corie: Because just you say inspired, you hear the rhythm and you build the beats and you came with the tablet roll and added.
• 40:18
  Corie: It just happened to kill that same inspiration and build the thing.
• 40:21
  Corie: You know, the two people could have an idea at the same time.
• 40:23
  Corie: Well, no, that is not what happened.
• 40:25
  Corie: So, what's all the what's your reaction at that point in time?
• 40:28
  Corie: When you hear it for the first time, what are you thinking?
• 40:30
  Corie: I drinking.
• 40:31
  Corie: Here we're going, right?
• 40:33
  Corie: Now, it's funny enough that every time he goes live on social media on Instagram, the live would be sent to me.
• 40:42
  Corie: Right?
• 40:43
  Corie: I would go on and see what you're talking about.
• 40:46
  Corie: He is playing our instrumental, Big Link's instrumental, right?
• 40:49
  Corie: Now, this is weeks before he released his song.
• 40:51
  Corie: Playing it and saying, I go on, I'll go on um release on the series.
• 40:55
  Corie: Yeah, so you'll see.
• 40:56
  Corie: It was premeditated.
• 40:57
  Corie: I understand, yeah.
• 40:58
  Corie: I understand.
• 40:59
  Corie: We we never really spoke on it because we didn't really want to give it energy.
• 41:02
  Corie: But we must say thank you to Trinidad Killer for doing our marketing and promotion for 2025 because we would not have been big.
• 41:10
  Kory: Save the marketing budget and we buy clothes.
• 41:12
  Kory: Yeah, evidently.
• 41:13
  Kory: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:15
  Corie: So Trinidad Killer sent us our invoice, yeah, because that marketing was excellent.
• 41:19
  Corie: Yeah, I can appreciate that.
• 41:21
  Corie: But yeah, for weeks he's been going online and saying, I go and drop a song in this rhythm, they go out a suma.
• 41:26
  Corie: Right?
• 41:27
  Corie: That's what he was saying.
• 41:28
  Corie: I just looking at it, and people saying, boy, don't let he sing on I cast up the man, right?
• 41:35
  Corie: Because it is not illegal to do a cover of a song to use a thing once you're not monetizing it.
• 41:42
  Corie: I don't know what his intentions are.
• 41:44
  Corie: So I leaving him to do his thing.
• 41:46
  Corie: He clearly loved the rhythm, and I glad that he loved the rhythm, right?
• 41:49
  Corie: Fast forward now, he released the song, put it up on streaming platforms, credited Prince Pronto as the producer.
• 41:58
  Corie: I remember right?
• 42:00
  Corie: That is where he went wrong.
• 42:02
  Corie: So obviously, it ended up being a legal thing, right?
• 42:06
  Corie: And so that is what happened.
• 42:08
  Corie: He had to take it down, reproduce, right?
• 42:12
  Corie: Now, legally, we don't have proof that you use our product to make your product.
• 42:16
  Corie: Proof that you provide.
• 42:18
  Corie: Yeah.
• 42:18
  Corie: Yeah.
• 42:19
  Corie: We could claim your new product as well because it's a derivative of our product.
• 42:24
  Corie: We didn't bother to do all that.
• 42:26
  Corie: Like, bro, you're inspired, better for the cult, yeah.
• 42:29
  Corie: It's sing as some people love.
• 42:30
  Corie: Great.
• 42:31
  Corie: We just minding our business on our end.
• 42:34
  Corie: But you see, when you start a painting narrative of we belong to the soccer mafia as well, because we written for Marshall for years.
• 42:41
  Corie: And them fellas don't like nobody and don't like to push young artists, and they don't know how much young artists we write for free.
• 42:47
  Corie: We don't have to, there's no financial gain for us.
• 42:51
  Corie: But we've been supportive of the culture for many years, right?
• 42:55
  Corie: But people will say what I want to say regardless.
• 42:57
  Corie: Social media gives people our voice.
• 42:59
  Corie: And so we had to accept that.
• 43:02
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:02
  Corie: But it was a successful year for us, so it made it even easier to ignore like forget the voices.
• 43:08
  Corie: Yeah, that's what I really want to accentuate.
• 43:09
  Corie: Because I you want to say that forget the voices thing, that become real real when that was going on.
• 43:13
  Corie: Because I myself wait until here, I mean, maybe have a little bit of understanding of how it works.
• 43:19
  Corie: So when I see I didn't see the preamble, right?
• 43:22
  Corie: I just see come and he write his song and the song bubbling and thing.
• 43:25
  Corie: And I the first thing I think to myself was, okay, somebody lend this man live.
• 43:29
  Corie: Because you know, you don't have to wait for it to be monetized as well, right?
• 43:33
  Corie: It's yours, right?
• 43:34
  Corie: And um uh intellectual properties are funny thing.
• 43:37
  Corie: I always remember meeting another IP lawyer when I was starting this podcast.
• 43:41
  Corie: And at that time, I used to like, if I talk about all the IPs, it was me talking alone, right?
• 43:45
  Kevon: Right.
• 43:45
  Corie: So if I talk about all, I'll just take to all the picture from The Guardian and put it as the episode cover.
• 43:49
  Corie: And she said, brother, that's the equivalent of taking somebody's car.
• 43:52
  Corie: I said, but I just borrowed it, I'll give them credit.
• 43:54
  Corie: She said, That's the equivalent of taking somebody's car, and when they catch it, you say you just borrow the car.
• 43:58
  Corie: So I could have strike it down immediately.
• 44:01
  Corie: Yeah, and uh, I suppose the step to monetize is a real bowl step.
• 44:04
  Corie: Let me put it like that.
• 44:07
  Corie: But you know, the what was hearing a lot was the comparison between soccer and the zest culture or the dance hall culture in Jamaica.
• 44:13
  Corie: Where the same Russian you're talking about, where everybody was doing songs on your rhythm and asking for rational approval.
• 44:18
  Corie: How y'all managed to stay so quiet through all this?
• 44:21
  Corie: Because at that point in time, that was another thing.
• 44:23
  Corie: Rel fingers point at Marshall at one point in time.
• 44:26
  Corie: People say Marshall pulled down the song and then.
• 44:28
  Kory: That was real funny.
• 44:28
  Kory: Yeah.
• 44:29
  Kory: Because we always we, I mean, we always talking with Marshall.
• 44:32
  Kory: And it's like, so of course, people not hearing from us publicly.
• 44:37
  Corie: Deliberately, all they just decided not gonna talk about.
• 44:38
  Corie: Yeah, for sure.
• 44:40
  Kory: Because, like, we really mean it.
• 44:41
  Kory: He was doing the best advertising for the rhythm.
• 44:43
  Kory: Like, like it's not a joke, we make it like it's true.
• 44:46
  Kory: I love me because you know, you can cuss and carry on this twin street.
• 44:49
  Kory: Nah, no way.
• 44:50
  Corie: Well, I mean, I guess if you want to, he could, but um if you're looking for an next aside hustle, he could be he could do marketing parties.
• 44:58
  Kory: I'm telling you, no, he have that.
• 45:00
  Kory: He have that, yeah.
• 45:01
  Kory: He knows how to get people attention on on media.
• 45:04
  Kory: Um, but yeah, we we just we was looking at it um from uh you know what you have a you have a nice song.
• 45:15
  Kory: I wish you had just do the right thing from the start, yeah, you know what I mean, and go and produce your own thing, even if you get inspiration from our rhythm, go and produce it and do your thing properly, you know.
• 45:26
  Kory: But um we really not about the back and all that's not our nature, to be honest.
• 45:34
  Kory: We very kind of soft spoken when it comes to them kind of thing.
• 45:39
  Kory: It's like we're not trying to gain nobody's way.
• 45:41
  Kory: We don't want nobody trying to gain our way.
• 45:43
  Kory: We just trying to do this thing that we love, make a living, take care of the family, and have a little fun, and that is it.
• 45:49
  Kory: You know, we're not really trying to go back and forth on media and this one, that one, and no way.
• 45:54
  Corie: To me, to me, that's the worst mistake you can make, trying to argue with somebody on social media.
• 45:58
  Corie: Yes, because then who is the judge?
• 46:01
  Corie: Well, the judge have a way because the judge is the social media public.
• 46:05
  Corie: Let me not even call it the general public, right?
• 46:07
  Corie: Then so who is his following?
• 46:08
  Corie: Yeah, that's right.
• 46:09
  Corie: Do they know the facts?
• 46:10
  Corie: Do they know music law?
• 46:12
  Corie: Well, probably not.
• 46:13
  Corie: The people coming on on a live like that, come in to that is entertainment, yeah, back and forth, and they think it's going to be entertained.
• 46:20
  Corie: So whoever believe, I believe.
• 46:23
  Kory: So if I play in a new arena where you is the king of canal, I will lose every single time.
• 46:28
  Kory: Every single time.
• 46:30
  Kory: So I'm not playing that game with you.
• 46:32
  Kory: Go ahead and play by yourself.
• 46:33
  Kory: I understand.
• 46:34
  Corie: It makes sense.
• 46:34
  Corie: I always wondered how Oli managed to say so quick.
• 46:36
  Corie: I kind of be itching to say something, but no, no, no.
• 46:38
  Corie: I mean, at Landway Atlanta, right?
• 46:39
  Corie: All the things land where it land, everybody good, and he and Pronto still have a long good relationship, right?
• 46:43
  Corie: Louis?
• 46:43
  Corie: Well, we played like that.
• 46:45
  Corie: Okay, as good as a relationship could be.
• 46:47
  Corie: It's strange.
• 46:48
  Corie: That was real odd to me because to be honest with you, when I see it going on, because it was it was the starting of the jumping on the rhythm, and it was the pronto thing and the bill and back the rhythm.
• 46:58
  Corie: Then it was the Nicki Minaj thing, and I keep watching it, and I say everybody in this scenario is gonna fall out at some point in time.
• 47:02
  Corie: And as one of the public, you know, I come for the entertainment.
• 47:04
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 47:05
  Corie: Lacquering.
• 47:06
  Corie: No, me too.
• 47:06
  Corie: Me too.
• 47:07
  Corie: So he was watching every live.
• 47:09
  Corie: I was on every live, and he and I'm saying, oh, he tried to reach out to full blown and so he didn't up front.
• 47:15
  Corie: Come on.
• 47:15
  Corie: Well, sometimes when he said on that live, that's reaching out to you.
• 47:17
  Corie: You call me on WhatsApp, you know, even though you don't have the numbers, say, because see the name short.
• 47:21
  Corie: He called me on WhatsApp a few days after he done monetize, and by then we don't need to talk.
• 47:26
  Corie: Well, yeah.
• 47:28
  Corie: Now you do your thing already, so big up scene and thing.
• 47:30
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:31
  Corie: Makes sense, makes sense.
• 47:32
  Corie: So when you're looking at y'all's song now, you're you're going out there, you're you're making sure that you're, as you say, put out quality at all times.
• 47:39
  Corie: Uh, I always wonder for from a writing standpoint, right?
• 47:42
  Corie: Because one of the most boring things I ever sit through in my life is a class called English literature.
• 47:47
  Corie: Never mind.
• 47:48
  Corie: I never seen that boring.
• 47:50
  Corie: The city where fought on here, fought on there, fought on.
• 47:53
  Corie: I couldn't understand it.
• 47:54
  Corie: Couldn't understand.
• 47:55
  Corie: But I hear y'all say that that was one of the most inspiring things for you guys.
• 47:58
  Corie: I used to go to school for that.
• 48:00
  Corie: Yeah.
• 48:01
  Corie: When I finished school, when I finished school, I wanted to teach English and literature.
• 48:08
  Corie: Serious?
• 48:08
  Corie: Yeah.
• 48:09
  Corie: Nah but I see why a little play mask, man.
• 48:11
  Corie: Yeah.
• 48:11
  Kory: Nah, I I I I was a kind of a kind of nude when I when I was younger in primary school and thing.
• 48:16
  Kory: I always tell us up to two days ago.
• 48:18
  Kory: My dad was reminding me that um, you know, we used to go in the library, he used to take us to the library because he had a friend who was a librarian and she used to have like a whole lot of books that are not outside on the shelf there in the back in her room.
• 48:31
  Kory: And she used to let us let us go and take whatever we want from there and borrow it now.
• 48:35
  Kory: Other people don't have access to those books.
• 48:38
  Kory: And I go in home with seven, eight books, and like next week I need more.
• 48:43
  Kory: Yeah, true.
• 48:44
  Kory: Because yeah, like I was a nerd with that kind of thing now.
• 48:46
  Kory: I just used to like to read.
• 48:48
  Corie: Any kind of thing, like what you're all else reading then?
• 48:50
  Corie: What you was reading?
• 48:51
  Corie: Not all there, he reading.
• 48:52
  Corie: Yeah, but I like people to read to me.
• 48:57
  Corie: So, no, and this is not even a joke.
• 49:01
  Corie: I did I did literature for A-Levels in St.
• 49:03
  Corie: George's.
• 49:04
  Corie: Right.
• 49:04
  Corie: I think it's nine books or something, it's how to do.
• 49:06
  Corie: I had none of the books.
• 49:08
  Corie: I still pass literature.
• 49:10
  Corie: I go into class, listening to what they're talking about, and I know what to write about.
• 49:15
  Corie: This is what the book's saying.
• 49:16
  Corie: And you see, in those subjects, I mean, yeah, you're supposed to quote where like act one, scene two, where you get from or whatever.
• 49:23
  Corie: I don't know them things, right?
• 49:24
  Corie: But I could real talk about the story.
• 49:26
  Corie: And I would make my point still, my my marks still, just because I know the story well.
• 49:31
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:31
  Corie: But I don't like reading.
• 49:33
  Corie: I fall asleep every time I read.
• 49:34
  Corie: Yeah, but you can hear a story.
• 49:35
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, that's all.
• 49:37
  Kory: Words was always my thing.
• 49:38
  Kory: Um, so I also did languages and stuff.
• 49:41
  Kory: Like I can't remember them good now.
• 49:43
  Kory: Foreign languages?
• 49:44
  Kory: Yeah, I did Spanish and French for CXE.
• 49:47
  Kory: But yeah, words, like I like word games, I like you know, and like because it's one and one wordman who's gap every morning, yeah.
• 49:54
  Kory: For sure.
• 49:54
  Kory: I wish I had my phone, I could have checked it.
• 49:59
  Kory: But um, yeah, it's like I just played that every single day.
• 50:02
  Kory: Yeah, we got compared streaks.
• 50:04
  Corie: We grew up with our mother and father playing scrabble against each other and them kind of thing.
• 50:08
  Corie: Yeah, same thing in my family.
• 50:09
  Corie: No, I must write a song.
• 50:11
  Corie: Let me see how that translates.
• 50:14
  Corie: But good spirits end up being one of them that become a signature thing, yeah.
• 50:19
  Corie: And I I think decades from now, that hook and a good good spirit, and a drink in a good good spirit, it uh it hangs around.
• 50:27
  Corie: Yeah, it's true.
• 50:28
  Corie: I want to ask a question because I was watching the video for this year, right?
• 50:32
  Corie: And I'm watching the thing, and I see the whole video kind of pause on the music fade with a bottle of good spirits, or they're bringing out something or what coming.
• 50:39
  Corie: No, man.
• 50:39
  Corie: Daniel, things selling.
• 50:41
  Corie: We just enjoying telling stories, right?
• 50:43
  Corie: So telling stories don't mean telling lies, huh?
• 50:46
  Corie: There's a different kind of story.
• 50:47
  Corie: This man is experts in not answering questions.
• 50:51
  Corie: I hear all the whole kind of all say, yeah, good spirits.
• 50:53
  Corie: Yeah, so so good spirits.
• 50:55
  Corie: Again, the writing in it is it's impeccable.
• 50:57
  Corie: Like there's so many different parts of these songs, as I say, it's playing it in parang and people holding on to it.
• 51:01
  Corie: Right.
• 51:01
  Corie: That was another song that always says all the writing about people.
• 51:04
  Corie: You addressing that?
• 51:05
  Corie: I hear all they say it wasn't about nobody, it's just you doing what it is.
• 51:08
  Corie: It's about us.
• 51:09
  Corie: It's about us and our story, yeah.
• 51:11
  Kory: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:11
  Kory: You know what I mean?
• 51:12
  Corie: Like, they say only journey, all the man follows and only writes somebody, man.
• 51:15
  Kory: We follow over the course of our lifetime, bro.
• 51:19
  Kory: I suppose it's like you go through things, and especially in the music industry, too.
• 51:24
  Corie: Um, I mean, not trying to be vague or nothing like that, but people know, people hear stories.
• 51:29
  Corie: The music industry is not one for the week.
• 51:32
  Corie: Right?
• 51:33
  Corie: If all they're trying to get in the music industry, please know you do it.
• 51:38
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:39
  Corie: But yeah, we we had enough experiences and it just the inspiration hit him to write about our story to that piece of music.
• 51:49
  Corie: And people saying is that this song I feel people forget what this means.
• 51:57
  Corie: This means disrespect.
• 51:58
  Corie: It didn't disrespect nobody in the song.
• 52:00
  Corie: It is actually a song uplifting people who feel downtrodden.
• 52:04
  Corie: And that is it.
• 52:06
  Corie: This happened to me, yes, but lucky for you, my friend.
• 52:11
  Corie: That sounds like a threat, huh?
• 52:12
  Corie: Let me tell you, me and do no English literature and thing, but when all you say, you know, I mean, I have to no time for beefing lucky for you.
• 52:17
  Corie: When he isn't saying, I'm boy, lucky as I'm gonna give my life to the Lord, you know, it's sound like a threat.
• 52:22
  Corie: True, deliberate, true.
• 52:24
  Kory: Well, no, I mean, yes, I don't have to be threatening somebody to say that it's lucky for you.
• 52:29
  Kory: Like, I don't have to be a bad man to say that it is in fact lucky for you.
• 52:32
  Kory: Right, okay.
• 52:33
  Corie: You know what I mean?
• 52:34
  Corie: Like, that's fair, that's fair.
• 52:35
  Corie: But but but what it says as well is that, and I I live by this.
• 52:41
  Corie: Somebody get a bad drive, it rather cuss and carry on, somebody do you this.
• 52:45
  Corie: Sometimes people end up learning the lesson that they need to learn with somebody else at another time.
• 52:52
  Corie: You don't need to be the one to judge people and teach them their lesson every time somebody does you wrong, because you know what, we do people wrong sometimes.
• 53:00
  Corie: Of course.
• 53:01
  Corie: I would hope I would hope they're not good spirits and leave exactly how agrees.
• 53:05
  Corie: Of course.
• 53:06
  Corie: So that's that's what we promote and we promote, and you know what?
• 53:08
  Corie: Yeah, sometimes you just had to leave things and be in our good spirits.
• 53:11
  Corie: Yeah, I think that it resonates with people because the truth is, like you say, if you live long enough, you're in them spaces, you cause them problems, your pills are part of the problems or yours and you receiving and that's the truth.
• 53:20
  Corie: So people resonate with it a lot.
• 53:22
  Corie: So now you're having a different response from that first cast Tuesday, right?
• 53:25
  Corie: People there, they want to see you sing it.
• 53:27
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 53:27
  Corie: I saw y'all start to perform and you could sing any one of these songs.
• 53:30
  Corie: I found that to be one of the more unique things about Euros, too.
• 53:33
  Corie: And David, I'm gonna move on from Good Links, Big Link.
• 53:34
  Corie: So I know we hear long, right?
• 53:36
  Corie: But um, sorry.
• 53:37
  Corie: But yeah, it just felt like any one of them songs could be for any one of the artists on your song almost interchangeable, right?
• 53:44
  Kevon: Right, right, right.
• 53:45
  Corie: But y'all, y'all, y'all embodied this song.
• 53:48
  Corie: What was your response like when you first start going out there performing it?
• 53:52
  Kory: Um our first performance was it was it was decent, but in terms of the response.
• 54:01
  Kory: Yeah, also a book from the gate.
• 54:04
  Kory: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:04
  Corie: Well, so it's technical.
• 54:07
  Corie: That was a free show.
• 54:08
  Corie: Oh, okay.
• 54:08
  Corie: Gotcha, gotcha promotion, right?
• 54:10
  Corie: Yeah, the the song was doing well, and we knew that sometimes he had a stoop to conquer.
• 54:15
  Corie: And yeah, that's a good stage to be on.
• 54:17
  Corie: Right.
• 54:17
  Corie: So big up mocha.
• 54:18
  Corie: Um, they say I might have a pay if you want us.
• 54:20
  Corie: Yeah, might no one might be because you know anything is possible.
• 54:26
  Corie: We fellas with good hearts too.
• 54:28
  Corie: You know what I'm saying?
• 54:29
  Corie: But yeah, um, yeah, it was a good stage to performance.
• 54:32
  Corie: So yeah, he could tell you about the performance.
• 54:34
  Kory: But yeah, um, again, it was we now start performing together.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:40
  Kory: It's not like um I did some things by myself before.
• 54:44
  Kory: Right.
• 54:45
  Kory: And being up there by yourself, you know where you're going to do, you know where you're going to say next.
• 54:49
  Kory: But you know, the work on that.
• 54:52
  Kory: We had to we had to figure it out.
• 54:53
  Kory: OJT styling.
• 54:57
  Kory: You understand?
• 54:58
  Kory: You understand?
• 54:59
  Kory: But um, when we did our first performance, time we come off the stage, Marshall sent a video in the group with us performing.
• 55:08
  Kory: He already gets and send back a video of us performing.
• 55:12
  Kory: He said, Well done.
• 55:12
  Kory: And he said, Well done.
• 55:13
  Kory: I give it an eight out of ten.
• 55:15
  Kory: I'll never forget, I'll never forget.
• 55:17
  Kory: And he'll say, bro, I eight from me or just men, or they do real good things anything.
• 55:23
  Kory: Yeah, so even all that gives us a lot of confidence moving forward.
• 55:26
  Kory: But um, yeah, from the start, it was really we we felt the love from the start, and then as it went on, it just got crazier and crazier, yeah.
• 55:37
  Kory: Just billion, billion.
• 55:38
  Kory: Yeah, and then our chemistry is like we start to understand each other much better on the stage, and you know what we're gonna do without having to even discuss it sometimes, so you know.
• 55:47
  Corie: Yeah, so right now we reach a point where he just had a holy microphone.
• 55:50
  Corie: I would do everything else.
• 55:51
  Kory: Yeah, that's facts, and I love that.
• 55:54
  Kory: I like easy wood, yeah.
• 55:56
  Kory: One thing I like is easy wood.
• 55:58
  Corie: No, but to be honest, he's he's more of the singer in the duo because I would most times do the music and that kind of thing, he would sing the demos.
• 56:08
  Corie: So what he splits up like that over the years.
• 56:10
  Corie: Well, yeah, so over the years he got to know his voice and understand tone and them kind of things a lot better than me.
• 56:18
  Corie: So I now still learn recording myself and how I song and how to change this and that, and but he has it done.
• 56:24
  Corie: So much so that if Marshall or Kessler, whoever taking a song from us, they want to sing like him, like how he sings it.
• 56:30
  Corie: Because they like how he has some unique things that he just do now.
• 56:33
  Corie: So when we're on the stage, it is the same thing, like most times if it's a higher part or whatever, he would do that, and I would just kind of stick to the regular song and he would embellish and so we we learn that that that makes more sense for us.
• 56:46
  Corie: Got it.
• 56:46
  Corie: No, we're not a little more real time.
• 56:48
  Corie: It's a thing that's a seat throughout your career because you were formally trained in music.
• 56:52
  Corie: No, nope, and you formally trained in writing or anything like that.
• 56:54
  Corie: You went and do so.
• 56:56
  Corie: You're all accustomed to this little formally trained in football.
• 56:58
  Corie: Oh, yeah.
• 56:58
  Corie: And you say retire from that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 57:03
  Corie: You talk more Marshall sending that video.
• 57:05
  Corie: Casey, tell my story about that too.
• 57:07
  Corie: We all submit a song to him and then send a video with Marshall singing in his studio.
• 57:10
  Corie: Five years.
• 57:10
  Corie: Yeah, done.
• 57:11
  Kory: That's the first soccer we have, all right.
• 57:12
  Corie: That's Antilly's rhythm, right?
• 57:13
  Corie: Yes.
• 57:14
  Corie: Now, where Antilles rhythm land is such a parallel to where Big Link's rhythm is now.
• 57:18
  Corie: Facts because Dred, there's no with with a few people I had a little funny uh Casey.
• 57:23
  Corie: Once Antilles Rhythm comes up here and you put it on social media, it's just City Comets favorite rhythm, favorite song, favorite time, favorite hero.
• 57:30
  Corie: You know what I mean?
• 57:31
  Corie: And um, for y'all to be a part of that, and you said that y'all were doing RB before, that was what your focus was.
• 57:36
  Corie: Yeah, what made you decide at that point you're going and try this soccer?
• 57:40
  Kory: Um, it kind of happened organically.
• 57:42
  Kory: Um, we we went to the studio.
• 57:46
  Kory: I mean, we get accustomed going by Casey.
• 57:49
  Kory: Casey was introduced to us through one of his school friends, yeah.
• 57:52
  Kory: Rondell, right?
• 57:54
  Kory: And so in those days, right?
• 57:59
  Kory: I had a girlfriend and I used to write a song for her every year.
• 58:02
  Kory: Right on our anniversary, right?
• 58:05
  Kory: I used to write and record the song done by the change making life hard for other people.
• 58:11
  Kevon: I used to feel pressured.
• 58:12
  Kevon: So write for my wife later.
• 58:14
  Kevon: If you're not doing that for you, I mean what you ready doing time stops.
• 58:23
  Kory: But yeah, that was my thing now because well, I know money too.
• 58:27
  Kory: But I have a little talent and somebody, you know, um, you know, so we used to go to my case and record those songs.
• 58:35
  Kory: Them days, I I exactly cringe listening back to some of them things.
• 58:38
  Kory: I can't even understand really how to sing properly.
• 58:42
  Kory: But but Casey was a big help in them days too, and yeah, so that's how we get to hear what we're doing, and he always says, You guys talented, you could re-write, or you should try so.
• 58:56
  Kory: And he was like, Nope, no, thank you, no, thank you, no, thank you.
• 58:59
  Kory: And then I think it was like the it was after three years that I was actually getting married.
• 59:05
  Kory: So the same girl, by the way, because I'm a loyal guy, and um, so I was I should not tell the story, yeah.
• 59:15
  Kory: So I wrote the wedding, I wrote our wedding song.
• 59:18
  Kory: Uh, and I wrote that doing too much dread.
• 59:20
  Corie: Yeah, you're making things hard for my note here.
• 59:22
  Corie: We can't put it on so you write the wedding song.
• 59:26
  Kory: I wrote our wedding song and I wrote a song for me and my mom to dance to, right?
• 59:29
  Kory: So those two songs I went on there to record, when he saw that, he was like, bro, try this so kind of.
• 59:36
  Kory: He gave us a CD, it was a CDs in them days with two two beats.
• 59:41
  Kory: I can't remember what the other one was, but one was the Antilles rhythm.
• 59:45
  Kory: And well, I took it home as one CD.
• 59:47
  Kory: So it's so we cash here.
• 59:49
  Kory: I took it home and I ended up writing Vibescar Done.
• 59:52
  Kory: I wasn't sure about the song when I wrote it, because uh it's the first soccer we ever do.
• 59:58
  Kory: So I don't even know if it's a good soccer.
• 59:59
  Kory: I um a Senate a Senator Corey and Ryan Ryan Hamilton was a part of full-blown entertainment in them days, right?
• 1:00:11
  Kory: And we owe a lot to him too, in terms of he's he is he's great with everything when it comes to music, writing, producing, yeah, singing, everything, plays keys, everything.
• 1:00:23
  Kory: So he really helped us.
• 1:00:25
  Kory: And both of them say, Hey, the sounding good.
• 1:00:28
  Kory: So we send it back to Casey.
• 1:00:30
  Kory: And Casey said, Alright, nice, it sounds good, but we didn't know what would happen.
• 1:00:35
  Kory: Casey obviously have all the links in his soaker, so he had to know what to do with it.
• 1:00:39
  Kory: We don't know what to do with it.
• 1:00:40
  Kory: You understand?
• 1:00:41
  Kory: And um, I remember him telling us that I think he sends it to Rupee and it gets turned down.
• 1:00:47
  Kory: I think he sent it to other people too.
• 1:00:49
  Kory: I can't remember who.
• 1:00:50
  Kory: But then one day, randomly, after we forget about it, he sends this video.
• 1:00:55
  Kory: I still have the video acting with Marshall recording it in his studio in LA.
• 1:01:01
  Corie: Yeah, I see.
• 1:01:02
  Kory: And well, we went crazy.
• 1:01:04
  Corie: So while it's an a reference track, you sing it out, or you just write it.
• 1:01:07
  Kory: Yeah, yeah, we record the entire song.
• 1:01:09
  Kory: Right.
• 1:01:09
  Kory: Beginning to end, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:11
  Kory: That's how I well, that's what he was saying before, too.
• 1:01:14
  Kory: Like I would be the one to record the demo.
• 1:01:17
  Kory: So from top to bottom, everything here.
• 1:01:20
  Kory: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:01:20
  Kory: Singing it exactly how yeah, exactly how.
• 1:01:22
  Kory: All them things, all them things.
• 1:01:24
  Corie: There's a case he's saying, RL questions about it.
• 1:01:26
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:01:26
  Corie: But Cory Lebanon asked you before, right?
• 1:01:28
  Corie: You know, you don't fet, you don't play mouth, you're not good.
• 1:01:30
  Corie: Well, I went through a stage of fetting, uh, to be honest.
• 1:01:34
  Corie: Um just when I left QRC and I was unemployed for a little bit, um, fetting on your parents' money.
• 1:01:43
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Corie: And so so my mom was a customs officer at the time, so it had customs fet them years still.
• 1:01:51
  Corie: And so I would go customs set with her, and I would look to see who performing and listen and that kind of thing.
• 1:01:58
  Corie: But then Kev wanted took me to my first insomnia.
• 1:02:01
  Kory: I don't know, I don't know why you would bring me up in that.
• 1:02:04
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:04
  Corie: Because daddy needs to know from now.
• 1:02:07
  Kory: I'm not sure why.
• 1:02:08
  Corie: Yeah, my brother was the influence now.
• 1:02:10
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:11
  Corie: Good influence.
• 1:02:12
  Kory: Just last night, he man said, is our good son.
• 1:02:14
  Kory: Yeah, no.
• 1:02:16
  Corie: No, you are, you are, it's just perspective.
• 1:02:17
  Corie: He's our good brother, he's our good son.
• 1:02:19
  Corie: Yeah, you're carrying people insomnia, yeah.
• 1:02:21
  Corie: Good, good, brother.
• 1:02:22
  Corie: Yeah, but that that insomnia in particular, I we always laugh at this.
• 1:02:26
  Corie: We got there maybe like 11 p.m.
• 1:02:28
  Corie: Oh shit.
• 1:02:29
  Corie: And I jump until 11 a.m.
• 1:02:31
  Corie: Yeah, that insomnia.
• 1:02:32
  Corie: People don't understand why insomnia.
• 1:02:33
  Corie: And that's that's because it's is well, one, yeah, times were real different back then because it had more foreigners than locals to begin with.
• 1:02:39
  Corie: No phones, but yeah, no phones, and like never see come seen now, but I just in one of my first insomnia effects, and is like I just so excited.
• 1:02:48
  Corie: I have all the energy in the world, and I love every song that plays, I don't care.
• 1:02:52
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, you love it, and then I realized, you know what?
• 1:02:55
  Corie: I actually like soccer because I never really grew up on so sure, but that was my exposure to soca in the live setting, and uh so now I kind of beginning to understand what has an effect on the crowd, what people would gravitate to.
• 1:03:11
  Corie: Yeah, so when he brings a song like Vice Car done, I can't conceptualize at that point in time.
• 1:03:16
  Corie: I can't conceptualize what us writing a good soccer would sound like, but I could hear it and I could tell.
• 1:03:20
  Corie: Yeah, right.
• 1:03:21
  Corie: And he did a good song and I could tell.
• 1:03:23
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Corie: That's what I mean by learning in real time.
• 1:03:25
  Corie: Because without doing music formally and being able to hear something like that, because I don't think I ever heard a song sober.
• 1:03:31
  Corie: Lemon one time I was like, I every memory I have of that song, I black out, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:36
  Corie: Because it became Antilles is what it is, yeah, but that became the it on the Antilles is another one of them rhythms where plenty of the songs was real big songs.
• 1:03:44
  Kory: But yeah, that cool when was the one for me, to be honest.
• 1:03:46
  Kory: I mean, we for me too.
• 1:03:48
  Kory: Yeah, are you so worth we write that one and sing?
• 1:03:50
  Corie: Yeah, no, no, no, no, that's some crazy because because to take a sweet rhythm like that and have a back and all songs that I suppose to me.
• 1:03:57
  Corie: That was genius, I suppose.
• 1:03:59
  Corie: Yeah, because he went the unconventional route there, and uh, yeah, that's genius right now.
• 1:04:03
  Kory: And we actually thought that he would probably win soccer monarch.
• 1:04:07
  Kory: Remember when we heard it the first time, yeah, but that time we didn't write Mr.
• 1:04:10
  Kory: Fett yet, though.
• 1:04:11
  Corie: So, you know, well, let me talk about it and then carry with it because again, no sobriety whatsoever in some like Mr.
• 1:04:18
  Corie: Fett.
• 1:04:18
  Corie: We were learning quickly, yeah.
• 1:04:20
  Corie: Evidently from Vice Garden, we need for a song, and then yeah, Mr.
• 1:04:23
  Corie: Who'd have been producing it?
• 1:04:24
  Corie: Casey.
• 1:04:25
  Corie: That was Casey, Mr.
• 1:04:26
  Corie: So in those days nobody knew who we were.
• 1:04:29
  Corie: We didn't just know who we were, Casey.
• 1:04:31
  Corie: You understand?
• 1:04:33
  Corie: So, yeah, it's just like because if we're being honest, around that time we were very eager to be in the music industry, and we used to go from studio to studio, everybody would turn us down, they would say, Oh, you're too RB, um, I need to listen to more music and see what's going on in the world.
• 1:04:50
  Corie: And so nobody was interested in what's going on.
• 1:04:52
  Corie: So before you catch up when you're done so, yeah, nah, before nobody was interested in us.
• 1:04:56
  Corie: And Casey saw that we understood structure because we have an RB background.
• 1:05:03
  Corie: So then, if they understand structure, it's just to find the words that would resonate with the locals for soccer music, and so he gave us a chance.
• 1:05:12
  Corie: And I mean the rest is history for sure, for sure.
• 1:05:16
  Corie: Even the RB thing is here, even when you listen back to the baby, yeah, yeah, is it here?
• 1:05:22
  Corie: Marshall is always complaining, always.
• 1:05:29
  Kory: We have a song that dropping soon, and we we sent him the demo, and he was like, You see that RB part there, you see that RB part day, all the go.
• 1:05:38
  Kory: But I mean, he knows that we have our own style too, you know what I mean?
• 1:05:42
  Kory: So he understands what we're doing, but it's like that's how we kind of learn to, you know, write for the soccer audience a bit more.
• 1:05:53
  Kory: Shoe Marshall and Casey, kind of in those early days, you know, helping us to kind of edit ourselves.
• 1:05:59
  Corie: Understand, understand when we do a demo and we send it to Marshall, it wouldn't um, yes, we do these is the same wording and everything, but his pronunciation of certain words and that kind of thing would help expand our minds to realize, oh, so that is how it's supposed to be.
• 1:06:15
  Corie: Yeah, because sometimes we do it the RB style, yeah, or we do a curl where we don't really need our curl and them kind of thing.
• 1:06:22
  Corie: So, yeah, and it wasn't him directly teaching us, but we pick up after a few the first few songs, it's like, all right, understand it now, you know what I mean?
• 1:06:31
  Corie: Yeah, so some people like that delivery is part of writing too.
• 1:06:34
  Corie: Oh you put our words on the paper and he give me, I should have vibes card done.
• 1:06:38
  Corie: It'll be yeah, yeah, no, no way.
• 1:06:40
  Corie: I remember when we heard his recording of vibes card done.
• 1:06:45
  Corie: From the time I heard hooy, I started smile.
• 1:06:47
  Corie: I say, Yeah, but we reach.
• 1:06:48
  Corie: From the time you hear a hoy on your song, we reach.
• 1:06:52
  Corie: Yeah, I remember uh from the time I hear that, I smile.
• 1:06:55
  Corie: What's the reaction when you're standing here on radio and them kind of things?
• 1:06:58
  Corie: Yeah, it was real different because crazy the we just give the story too.
• 1:07:03
  Corie: So just the year before the carnival before.
• 1:07:07
  Corie: Now, remember we'd already do nothing for carnival.
• 1:07:10
  Corie: So Fantastic Friday.
• 1:07:12
  Corie: We used to have a lime to watch soccer monarch.
• 1:07:16
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:16
  Corie: Fans 2010 Carnival.
• 1:07:20
  Corie: We had a lime by my mom, and we decided, you know what?
• 1:07:24
  Corie: You have to come dressed.
• 1:07:26
  Corie: 2011.
• 1:07:27
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, before 2012.
• 1:07:28
  Corie: 2011, yes.
• 1:07:30
  Corie: You have to come to the line dressed as an artist in the Soka Monarch finals.
• 1:07:35
  Corie: Oh, the artist thing.
• 1:07:37
  Kory: Yeah, just an artist.
• 1:07:37
  Kory: Any artist for the carnival?
• 1:07:39
  Corie: Oh, I was just okay, okay, right.
• 1:07:41
  Corie: So Crystal came as crazy, yeah.
• 1:07:42
  Corie: She let out her hair and thing, and only opening she eye big one.
• 1:07:46
  Corie: I was Jiger.
• 1:07:49
  Corie: Well, them days too, but Jagger TC.
• 1:07:51
  Corie: So I had on one of my wife's leggings.
• 1:07:54
  Corie: Sight.
• 1:07:54
  Corie: Yeah, I don't want my wife's leggings to look like.
• 1:07:57
  Kevon: I wonder if you could remember them days.
• 1:07:59
  Corie: He was dressed as Marshall.
• 1:08:00
  Corie: Right.
• 1:08:01
  Corie: He had a kind of braids wig looking like a rascal thing.
• 1:08:04
  Corie: Turn backwards, turn backwards because them days Marshall wearing it, but yeah.
• 1:08:09
  Kory: At that point, we had never met Marshall yet.
• 1:08:11
  Kory: We don't know.
• 1:08:11
  Kory: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:12
  Kory: We have no idea we go and write so much soccer man.
• 1:08:14
  Kory: And the next year we in the soccer man are winning it with Marshall.
• 1:08:17
  Corie: Yeah, we stood on watching him win with Advantage, and then the next year we did.
• 1:08:21
  Corie: He singing backgrounds for him on stage.
• 1:08:23
  Corie: Well, he went up, and yeah.
• 1:08:25
  Corie: And so that was amazing, uh boy.
• 1:08:28
  Corie: So the year after Antlees was Advantage, no, the year before.
• 1:08:32
  Corie: Yeah, we're at Advantage was the year when we just advantage, God it got it.
• 1:08:36
  Kory: 2011.
• 1:08:37
  Kory: That's when he came back in um power soaker, yeah.
• 1:08:39
  Kory: All right, yeah, it was what eight million dollars, like four times even.
• 1:08:42
  Kory: And then so the year after when he had Mr.
• 1:08:46
  Kory: Fett, he had to go from semi-finals because he wasn't in the groovy soaker before.
• 1:08:50
  Kory: That is one of my most memorable moments.
• 1:08:52
  Kory: Mr.
• 1:08:53
  Kory: Fett would have been groovy, yes.
• 1:08:55
  unknown: Mr.
• 1:08:56
  Kory: Fett was groovy, and so he did um pump your flag for for power that year.
• 1:08:59
  Kory: But um, but he had to go semis in Ariba.
• 1:09:02
  Kory: I'll never forget that.
• 1:09:04
  Kory: Oh, yeah, I was performed before him.
• 1:09:06
  Kory: We were in the semis in our in the village room.
• 1:09:09
  Kory: I will perform just before him.
• 1:09:10
  Kory: And when he when they're trying to announce Marshall, the crowd still chanting I wa, I was, I and I was like, Oh my god, what is happening here?
• 1:09:18
  Kory: As soon as Mr.
• 1:09:20
  Kory: Fett started playing, I'm like, jump up and wait, the crowd go and mad.
• 1:09:26
  Kory: My pause is still raised to this day, man.
• 1:09:29
  Kory: That moment was like, bro, we doing something different here with this music that we involve in.
• 1:09:34
  Kory: Like, that moment for me was when I recognize, like, yeah, like we're doing what we're supposed to do.
• 1:09:41
  Corie: I think then too is when we realize that it's our difference between writing for a competition and just writing.
• 1:09:45
  Corie: Yeah, I suppose.
• 1:09:46
  Corie: Because the maximum beats per minute for a groovy is 135.
• 1:09:52
  Corie: Mr.
• 1:09:52
  Corie: Fett was up there in terms of the tempo.
• 1:09:54
  Corie: So we realize you have a better chance now of commanding the audience with a higher tempo groovy song.
• 1:10:03
  Corie: And uh so that's when the following year for fog and them kind of thing, like we we kind of had a formula where we understood what our competition song was from what our regular groovy song was.
• 1:10:14
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:10:15
  Corie: Now, like again, like a boat, when not like a worse, Mr.
• 1:10:19
  Corie: Fett end up in Marshall catalogue, one of them things where whether he does it on Marshall Monday or a thing or a time.
• 1:10:24
  Corie: Yeah, he can't move it.
• 1:10:25
  Corie: Yes, it's just it's just a permanent fixture.
• 1:10:28
  Corie: I never thought of where I just said him.
• 1:10:30
  Corie: Because in my mind, when I talk about in preparing for this, when I hear Mr.
• 1:10:34
  Corie: Fett, I hear power for some reason.
• 1:10:36
  Corie: I think in because of the effect of the song.
• 1:10:38
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:38
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:39
  Corie: But close up to the top range of the groovy.
• 1:10:41
  Corie: Yes, it is.
• 1:10:41
  Corie: Makes sense.
• 1:10:42
  Corie: So fog, another one of them things.
• 1:10:44
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:10:44
  Corie: Uh let me tell you my first experience with fog.
• 1:10:46
  Corie: Not super, right?
• 1:10:47
  Corie: We could start to.
• 1:10:48
  Kory: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:48
  Kory: Well, yeah, we couldn't understand that.
• 1:10:51
  Corie: So it's like fun.
• 1:10:52
  Corie: Juventus morning one.
• 1:10:53
  Corie: So that means the carnival and seasoning, right?
• 1:10:55
  Corie: And uh, the song is not a big song, but radio different.
• 1:10:58
  Corie: So what you would hear when you go out and them kind of things.
• 1:11:00
  Corie: But I remember going on a foreshow with a Juve band.
• 1:11:03
  Corie: And you them days, Juve done switched to must be 3:40 morning, they now start.
• 1:11:07
  Corie: And back in the day, Juve used to start whenever the mash grad done.
• 1:11:09
  Corie: You know what them days?
• 1:11:10
  Corie: Right.
• 1:11:10
  Corie: 10-11 you start up early, you're out whole night.
• 1:11:13
  Corie: So for somebody who comes from that era, I used to go and play Juve hoping they start on time, start 4 o'clock, whatever time they get, so you could get a little piece of darkness.
• 1:11:22
  Corie: You could write song, I can't write song any darkness, you know what I mean, to catch people.
• 1:11:26
  Corie: So I live at one little hour of darkness to enjoy my juvenile.
• 1:11:29
  Corie: And that man taking long to study music, boy.
• 1:11:32
  Corie: And eventually he starts up with fog.
• 1:11:33
  Corie: And I think at that moment I was like, because we I went soaker when he did the fog then.
• 1:11:38
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:11:39
  Corie: And I mean, you know, it's a big song, but you also know it's Marshall.
• 1:11:42
  Corie: So he had a grip on people that can't be explained.
• 1:11:45
  Corie: It almost didn't matter where he sings.
• 1:11:46
  Corie: Yeah, like Pumpy Flag.
• 1:11:47
  Corie: It didn't matter where he sings, you know.
• 1:11:48
  Corie: I mean, whatever he sings, it's gonna do well, right?
• 1:11:51
  Corie: But um, I remember him playing that fog that couldn't come off for most of the JV1, and it just played over and over and over.
• 1:11:59
  Corie: So intro to songs has always be, you know, the how you you you do the rhythm there or that's Casey too.
• 1:12:04
  Corie: Casey do the production.
• 1:12:05
  Corie: So at that point in time, Casey doing it and he calling you also.
• 1:12:07
  Corie: So yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:08
  Kory: You used to send us rhythms and we're gonna rhythm.
• 1:12:10
  Corie: And you also write in rhythm first.
• 1:12:11
  Corie: You hear the rhythm and then you're right, the song.
• 1:12:14
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:15
  Corie: So where the idea coming from?
• 1:12:18
  Kory: Funny enough, we had two songs.
• 1:12:20
  Corie: Yeah, forgot it's two songs combined, yeah, and yeah, so for years, maybe like yeah, since since the previous year when we were doing the Mr.
• 1:12:31
  Corie: Fett and thing, I used to always go to the studio and tell Marshall I would bring back powder posse for you.
• 1:12:37
  Corie: I would always tell him that because growing up looking at that, and I wish I could have been in that crowd.
• 1:12:43
  Corie: Because to me, that is our experience.
• 1:12:45
  Corie: I watch him perform in the UK.
• 1:12:47
  Corie: That is the days he had Junko and those Japanese dancers and thing, and he had the ecstatic circles or some kind of thing.
• 1:12:54
  Corie: And I remember when powder posse came on to see that crowd, I was like, this is what so can need again.
• 1:13:01
  Corie: So I always used to tell him that.
• 1:13:02
  Corie: And I used to say, Boy, been there, done that, and he used to always dismiss my idea now.
• 1:13:06
  Corie: When Casey sent that one to me, it's a song like Juvie.
• 1:13:09
  Corie: And I just had the idea, powder, everybody getting it, powder.
• 1:13:14
  Corie: And I record in my bedroom home and tell him, well, I think I sent him something.
• 1:13:21
  Kory: What happened?
• 1:13:21
  Kory: I write, I write a song, I write a full song, home.
• 1:13:25
  Kory: Right?
• 1:13:26
  Kory: We don't live together, right?
• 1:13:27
  Kory: We don't live together.
• 1:13:29
  Kory: So I write a full song.
• 1:13:30
  Kory: I live on the streets, he has a house.
• 1:13:33
  Kory: Well, he has a wife, so sometimes he's on the streets, sometimes.
• 1:13:37
  Kory: That is true.
• 1:13:41
  Kory: I conclude, but yeah, I have full song.
• 1:13:47
  Kory: So, but equipment and thing by him.
• 1:13:50
  Kory: So I was going up the road by him, them them days in his bedroom, and we go in and try to record our idea.
• 1:13:57
  Kory: When I go up now, lo and behold, he has an idea too.
• 1:14:02
  Kory: I didn't know that.
• 1:14:03
  Kory: And when I hear that powder thing, I was like, oh my god.
• 1:14:07
  Kory: So I had the verses winding up in the session, and I had that and thing.
• 1:14:12
  Kory: And then I was like, Yes, we need that powder thing, that is going to kill them.
• 1:14:16
  Kory: So, and so we merged the two.
• 1:14:18
  Kory: We merged it in the same way.
• 1:14:20
  Corie: I never forget, when we merged the two, we listened to the song on repeat for a couple times as well, because we just love where it is now, boy.
• 1:14:28
  Corie: And then we stop it and we start a talk, and we say, like, yeah, boy, we have one here, and we're talking about what the song would do.
• 1:14:34
  Corie: And I can't remember who said it, but one of us said, Boy, this one going and fuck up the place.
• 1:14:39
  Corie: Oh shit.
• 1:14:40
  Corie: And then we watch each other, we're like, that had to be the intro.
• 1:14:43
  Corie: And that was it.
• 1:14:45
  Corie: And so when we submit that from the time it starts, I remember when Marsha was going to record it, we went down south by Casey.
• 1:14:52
  Corie: Peter C.
• 1:14:52
  Corie: Lewis was there at the time, and he already knew the song.
• 1:14:56
  Corie: Because like Marsha loves it so much, he must have played for Paul who he could play it for, is the reference.
• 1:15:01
  Corie: And that is when I realized, yeah, boy, we have an X1.
• 1:15:03
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, it's real funny.
• 1:15:05
  Corie: You should parallel them two songs.
• 1:15:06
  Corie: I always wondered if them two songs related.
• 1:15:08
  Corie: Is it starting all?
• 1:15:09
  Corie: Yeah, if you like fog would have put the put the put-up, and then when you listen to Paul the Pussy, ping it's it's almost like I seem kind of similar.
• 1:15:18
  Kory: Yeah, I'm kind of built up.
• 1:15:20
  Corie: Yeah, even the money, even the first line because that that fog up the place.
• 1:15:25
  Corie: When you hear that on your road and sing more than that, again, another one that really can't move from his catalog.
• 1:15:31
  Corie: I had Adrian Scoon here for Soka, and he's talking about they call the year that he does the fog in so it could call it the fog.
• 1:15:38
  Corie: You see, he credits that that video and that song for where Soka.
• 1:15:42
  Corie: Oh, yeah, that definitely you you attended, or no, you I went.
• 1:15:46
  Corie: I was sick.
• 1:15:46
  Corie: I went and I was quite to the back where the food caught this be, just looking at that crowd and like, what is this?
• 1:15:53
  Corie: You don't feel like the urge to go and tell everybody in the fed Aday means I don't know that I can control myself.
• 1:15:59
  Corie: I tell them smallies are sick.
• 1:16:01
  Corie: Your boy, right?
• 1:16:02
  Corie: But funny enough, as you say that, uh, don't want to stray too far.
• 1:16:06
  Corie: But uh when Marshall and Bungie had the boss head tour, we went to some venue in New York for Labor Day when they they were performing.
• 1:16:15
  Corie: I met up one of my partners who live in New York, so we in the in the crowd, and uh, some one of our songs came on, and he telling his friends and them, hey, he write this song.
• 1:16:25
  Corie: A girl saying, Well, no, it's Cunel Rider.
• 1:16:28
  Corie: So I just pay not 10 anything, right?
• 1:16:31
  Corie: I ain't nothing, no long talk.
• 1:16:32
  Corie: And he and she curling back and forth.
• 1:16:34
  Corie: He has to go on YouTube to pull up the credits to show yeah.
• 1:16:39
  Corie: I like boy, what is this?
• 1:16:41
  Corie: Because we we just try to avoid them things at all costs.
• 1:16:43
  Corie: The music will speak for itself.
• 1:16:46
  Corie: Yeah, you can't separate Marshall and Kunell just before they come.
• 1:16:49
  Corie: Exactly.
• 1:16:50
  Corie: Explode all this thing.
• 1:16:51
  Corie: Cunnell had a dread run with Marshall, too.
• 1:16:53
  Corie: I remember uh Insomnia as well, when Marshall started saying scandalous the hose on, boy, and them things can be repeated.
• 1:17:02
  Corie: Mud just coming down from the hill in Oto Park because people jumping up on that hill and just jumping up in the mud water, yeah.
• 1:17:09
  Corie: Yeah, that them days, even like when you talk about Paul, like I was there for Paul Posse, right?
• 1:17:13
  Corie: Junko and them.
• 1:17:14
  Corie: That was it, and I think if it's not that year, the year before you would have a whole march and ban concept.
• 1:17:20
  Corie: So when he did the circus, it's like an elements of all of them, and brother, when that when that porter posse came on, it was craziness.
• 1:17:26
  Corie: Because that's that's when he had a you when he used to have the match and ban and right.
• 1:17:29
  Corie: So when did 3-0 rhythm come about?
• 1:17:33
  Kory: That was after that, that was 2012 carnival as well.
• 1:17:36
  Kory: First yeah with Mr.
• 1:17:37
  Kory: Fett as well.
• 1:17:38
  Kory: So this was Pive Scardon, Mr.
• 1:17:41
  Kory: Fett, then we do um that tree zero, but um, and the benjay.
• 1:17:46
  Corie: We talk about a benjay now.
• 1:17:48
  Corie: Casey say Benji didn't know this song, right?
• 1:17:49
  Corie: Correct, he didn't say nobody can write for him.
• 1:17:52
  Corie: I suppose the RB feel only Oshaina era, right?
• 1:17:56
  Corie: Whether you blow your own horn or not, I go do it.
• 1:17:58
  Corie: Even him saying that blacks decide he don't want to do bottle of rum because the bottle of rum, I can hear blacks saying that.
• 1:18:06
  Corie: You know, that's what blacks is blacks so Trinidadian doesn't allow him to say bottle of rum, right?
• 1:18:10
  Corie: Although I could hear him singing his song, right?
• 1:18:12
  Corie: Good, but again, panorama.
• 1:18:14
  Corie: I was introduced to that rhythm, and right it's like you hear it already, but when you're out, you start to see what the effect it happened on people.
• 1:18:20
  Corie: That rhythm, I guess the live band kind of feel to you something.
• 1:18:23
  Corie: But I want to hear the Benji reference track.
• 1:18:26
  Corie: Because a man is carrying my ball lyrics, so we're not drinking and see.
• 1:18:29
  Corie: When people hear JI, all hands in the air, yeah, all drinks in the sky.
• 1:18:34
  Corie: Yeah, all you write that shit, Dre, or you sing it that way.
• 1:18:37
  Kory: He sends that to me.
• 1:18:38
  Kory: He sends it with that JI, yeah, yeah, everything.
• 1:18:41
  Corie: Because the year before Brent, the year before I was real vexed that Benji didn't win.
• 1:18:45
  Corie: All of us, yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:46
  Corie: Wortless was a month.
• 1:18:50
  Corie: Watless is still worthless, and to me, it is just I just the other day we had a studio session.
• 1:18:55
  Corie: I telling him that I say, How prophetic was it that Kess could close his performance saying, I feel like I just win a million dollars.
• 1:19:02
  Corie: To me, that's don't we had to win one?
• 1:19:04
  Corie: But it's just unfortunate that I see him here with Truni because I wanted Truni to win because I was a big Benjai fan.
• 1:19:10
  Corie: What let's get better after?
• 1:19:12
  Corie: What let's continue to get better after.
• 1:19:13
  Corie: But in undenied, Benji couldn't be beat.
• 1:19:17
  Corie: But yeah, and and so that happened, and I was like, wait, boy, I wish Ben Jai could come back at them.
• 1:19:25
  Corie: And I don't know why I hear that music and think Benjai, and think, yeah, this is the one that he had to sing his comeback song to.
• 1:19:33
  Corie: Yeah, it sung like a direct response to the year before.
• 1:19:35
  Corie: Yeah, but it's when it's almost people's champion, because it don't matter, yeah.
• 1:19:40
  Kory: You know what I mean?
• 1:19:40
  Kory: When he sent me that idea, I was like, bro, this is so bad.
• 1:19:45
  Kory: So bad.
• 1:19:46
  Kory: All I had to do was like, I think I write a second verse and fix up something.
• 1:19:50
  Kory: But that was it.
• 1:19:52
  Kory: Yeah, and I couldn't believe that Benji didn't want the song.
• 1:19:58
  Kory: I honestly couldn't.
• 1:19:59
  Kory: I like I couldn't understand it.
• 1:20:01
  Kory: Me neither.
• 1:20:02
  Kory: I couldn't understand it.
• 1:20:04
  Kory: And even, I mean, yeah, so I mean, I hear the story already, but but he had to record his song twice because the first time he recorded was real lackluster.
• 1:20:12
  Kory: Still didn't want to do anything.
• 1:20:14
  Kory: Yeah.
• 1:20:14
  Kory: And then Marshall's like, no, come back, do it again.
• 1:20:17
  Kory: And you do it.
• 1:20:19
  Kory: I mean, which uh which we thankful that you actually end up doing it, you know.
• 1:20:22
  Kory: All of us are fancy thankful too, yeah.
• 1:20:24
  Kory: Because like one of my father's favorite songs to either.
• 1:20:27
  Corie: Well, from a like social commentary standpoint, Benji, I'm gonna say he had to do it, but he had to kind of address that.
• 1:20:36
  Corie: Because only remember Sukamonark when it was Sukamonar, the whole country watching that, and the whole of Twitter, even them days, you know, everybody online.
• 1:20:42
  Corie: It's wild.
• 1:20:45
  Corie: It's a more live movie with that command again.
• 1:20:47
  Corie: So when people see Benji, I'll never forget her performance.
• 1:20:50
  Corie: I'm not sure what Benji was thinking, but Kess come and win.
• 1:20:54
  Corie: It happened, I will before where people show Iowa go in.
• 1:20:57
  Corie: I'm with Super and Ronnie.
• 1:20:58
  Corie: That's what Sokamaran was made of them moments.
• 1:21:00
  Corie: But I think we, as a culture, we'll be missing it if Benji just never say nothing about it.
• 1:21:06
  Corie: Not say on social media, but saying song.
• 1:21:08
  Corie: Yeah, so the fact that you come back and say people champion, I mean, and easily won a the uh like a crown jewel in this catalog, I could put it like that.
• 1:21:16
  Corie: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 1:21:17
  Corie: That and Trinity.
• 1:21:18
  Kory: I would say that is his top two songs, yeah.
• 1:21:20
  Corie: I guess, I guess, yeah, back to back.
• 1:21:21
  Corie: So I don't understand how you're putting yourself in that space to say JI.
• 1:21:24
  Corie: If I write a writer song, I'd not write in that.
• 1:21:28
  Corie: And if if you bring that for me and same way, I know I sure.
• 1:21:32
  Corie: I uh thinking back, I don't know what I was thinking.
• 1:21:35
  Corie: I really don't know what I was thinking.
• 1:21:37
  Corie: It surprised me and all because, well, I mean, it surprised everybody.
• 1:21:41
  Corie: People always be like, no, they didn't write that.
• 1:21:43
  Corie: Same thing with the young brother, when they hear the voices on the big links, they doesn't think that we write it, they think as he writes it.
• 1:21:49
  Corie: And to me, that's a compliment because it means that I was able to put myself in the artist's shoes and sound like them to give them like that's part of songwriting to me.
• 1:21:59
  Corie: Now, in the wider world of mainstream music, it's about an AR who would kind of try to envision where the artist should go next.
• 1:22:06
  Corie: As songwriters, we just do that for ourselves.
• 1:22:09
  Corie: We need to think of all right, where might be catalog and things too.
• 1:22:12
  Corie: Okay, study the sets where they're performing, how diverse it needs to be.
• 1:22:17
  Corie: You want to stray, but not too much to lose the crowd, like you know, them kind of things.
• 1:22:21
  Corie: And what is relevant at the time.
• 1:22:24
  Corie: So at that time, Benji needed to be relevant, and to me, that topic of not winning last year was something that the people want to hear from and rally behind them for.
• 1:22:35
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:36
  Kory: Which which which happened?
• 1:22:37
  Kory: I think because we think like that, we get a lot of rejection too.
• 1:22:42
  Kory: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:43
  Kory: In one way, because we don't like we don't like to really stick on the same thing.
• 1:22:51
  Kory: We always on to the next, we always looking for to elevate and reach somewhere else.
• 1:22:56
  Kory: A lot of people, this is not a knock on anybody, everybody have a different vision for themselves and where they want to be in their career or what they want to do for themselves.
• 1:23:05
  Kory: Um but I think, like, for example, this year, a lot of people like so or in doing our next rhythm because we do big links rhythm.
• 1:23:14
  Kory: We did a rhythm last year, big links, one of the most successful rhythms in the history of soccer.
• 1:23:21
  Kory: Like, we did that.
• 1:23:23
  Kory: We don't have to do it again this year.
• 1:23:26
  Kory: What's next?
• 1:23:26
  Kory: Like, why would we want to just repeat what we did already?
• 1:23:31
  Corie: That's not how we create, that's not how we and a lot of people we've been in many sessions where people saying, I want to like a boss, I want a fog away.
• 1:23:38
  Corie: I don't think so.
• 1:23:39
  Corie: And that has just upset us.
• 1:23:40
  Corie: Yeah, like we did that.
• 1:23:41
  Corie: We don't have bigger goals than what was already done because that's where we want to meet you.
• 1:23:46
  Corie: We want to meet you at that level where we have we want to do something better.
• 1:23:49
  Corie: But I guess they can't envision anything better, yeah.
• 1:23:54
  Kory: It'll be hard because it's it will be hard, but but that don't mean it's impossible.
• 1:23:58
  Kory: And we and we might fail, but but we had a try.
• 1:24:01
  Kory: Or else we just go.
• 1:24:03
  Kory: Yeah, and we can't we don't be inspired if we if we're not trying to reach somewhere else now.
• 1:24:09
  Corie: It's something I appreciate.
• 1:24:10
  Corie: I see it in in a lot of what the way the music being made today.
• 1:24:13
  Corie: Like when I go back to the mid-90s, you see that jump and wave era.
• 1:24:17
  Corie: I don't want to say we get stuck, but it it starts up living St.
• 1:24:21
  Corie: James is the problem, right?
• 1:24:22
  Corie: Because you you you cannot not hear the big songs of the year.
• 1:24:26
  Corie: When Carnival comes, it's just over and over.
• 1:24:28
  Corie: Every band is past through St.
• 1:24:30
  Corie: James.
• 1:24:30
  Corie: Yeah, so when Super Sing, which was one of the greatest songs ever, but what we need to get something and wave.
• 1:24:34
  Corie: Get something and wave.
• 1:24:35
  Corie: I will say I couldn't stand that song.
• 1:24:37
  Corie: I hated that song too much, just hear too much.
• 1:24:39
  Corie: Yeah, that when the breeze blows from the Savannah, even if our band not there, you hear that boy.
• 1:24:44
  Corie: They say palan something.
• 1:24:45
  Corie: Crazy, like even modern home road matches like Palan something compared to them, they get something and wave, and them thing was not normal, you know.
• 1:24:54
  Corie: Yeah, because with digitization of music is a different thing.
• 1:24:57
  Corie: Yeah, you get something and with his pants, I playing it small band, it was ridiculous by the amount of people who would play it.
• 1:25:03
  Corie: But what you're describing there, I found to be a very, very common thing.
• 1:25:07
  Corie: They had artists who, when they get hit last year, so it felt as though Shovel and Chester were the greatest to ever do it.
• 1:25:13
  Corie: It felt as though he was searching now dead or alive for the next three years.
• 1:25:17
  Corie: But I find now you're seeing people, and I could understand now we're you're pushing them to extend as a collective, right?
• 1:25:24
  Corie: Not just for them, but as a collective, it's good.
• 1:25:27
  Corie: So all hands in the AI.
• 1:25:29
  Corie: I don't know.
• 1:25:31
  Corie: I don't know.
• 1:25:31
  Corie: I really can't explain that one.
• 1:25:33
  Corie: Sorry for this boring answer, but I don't know what I was thinking.
• 1:25:36
  Corie: It's the best answer I ever heard because I want to bring up AI because I'm back to Kultur Candela.
• 1:25:40
  Corie: I see some oh god, I see some.
• 1:25:46
  Corie: He wouldn't know about it because he don't pay attention to nothing going on.
• 1:25:49
  Corie: Seriously, yeah, he just keeps his mind clear.
• 1:25:51
  Corie: No, honestly, that is how he is.
• 1:25:53
  Corie: Yeah, see I just listen to the music and thing because yeah, he's not going to handle for nothing.
• 1:25:57
  Kory: It's funny that you say in the earliest because as the older brother, you kind of follow what I would listen to and thing, but now it's the other wrong.
• 1:26:06
  Kory: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 1:26:07
  Kory: With a lot of things, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:08
  Kory: I feel like I had years where I was the older brother, now he could take over.
• 1:26:11
  Kory: Go do something.
• 1:26:13
  Kory: Go something damn time.
• 1:26:14
  Corie: It's about damn time.
• 1:26:15
  Corie: So let me direct it to you.
• 1:26:17
  Corie: You listen to these AI songs and things you're following that that controversy.
• 1:26:20
  Corie: I see NCW released an AI song and people um kind of late last year.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so no.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: It's so no, right?
• 1:26:30
  Corie: But let me say it's good, right?
• 1:26:31
  Corie: It's good.
• 1:26:32
  Corie: Not the song, the AI, the platform.
• 1:26:34
  Corie: So now I play with it a little bit.
• 1:26:35
  Corie: I'm surprised.
• 1:26:36
  Corie: It's a not the song.
• 1:26:37
  Corie: Well, the song, I have good spirits and all the fellowships.
• 1:26:41
  Corie: So I learned to answer questions from all the fellas.
• 1:26:43
  Corie: I have good, good spirits.
• 1:26:44
  Corie: I don't want nobody cussing me a secret.
• 1:26:46
  Corie: I care the.
• 1:26:48
  Kory: You talk about the song, you're talking about the AI.
• 1:26:49
  Corie: It's about the platform.
• 1:26:50
  Corie: But what's your thoughts on it as writers?
• 1:26:52
  Corie: Because I remember listening to songs in some years, and when I listen to these songs, I wonder as writers, how much writers using uh AI to come up with the whole concept of the song.
• 1:27:02
  Corie: But for production, at that time, I don't even I don't have it in my wildest dream that that AI platform could produce a song.
• 1:27:09
  Corie: So as you want who I know you're done production and so on, and we get to that, but how you feel about it in terms of AI and we're doing with the music now?
• 1:27:16
  Corie: Um honestly, certain parts of it I have no problem with.
• 1:27:22
  Corie: It could definitely enhance your skill set.
• 1:27:27
  Corie: So for me, as someone who's not classically trained, I can't tell you what kiddie song in, I can't tell you what chords I play in.
• 1:27:34
  Corie: I just go by feeling, right?
• 1:27:36
  Corie: Gotcha, gotcha.
• 1:27:37
  Corie: But that could only go as far as what I've exposed myself to.
• 1:27:41
  Corie: So if I have an idea and I could feed it to AI and it gives me other options that I could explore and I find the song better, and I have no problem with that.
• 1:27:49
  Corie: Because it's just like if we link up with Ryan, who he was saying is a musician, he would give me other options as well, and nobody would criticize me for getting help from him.
• 1:27:58
  Corie: So the same thing with getting help from AI is technology that man makes, and everyone is exposed to the same AI, so it's not unfair for one person to use it.
• 1:28:07
  Corie: And yeah, you understand?
• 1:28:09
  Corie: Now I see the arguing with um the Mili Vinilli thing and how Mili Vinili did not sing their song, their Grammy got stripped.
• 1:28:22
  Corie: But an AI artist could sing a song and be nominated for a Grammy.
• 1:28:26
  Corie: They can know, yeah, I see.
• 1:28:28
  Corie: And the saying that that's unfair because it's meaning AI artists in full.
• 1:28:34
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:35
  Corie: AI artists, not a human singing this at all.
• 1:28:38
  Corie: Right.
• 1:28:38
  Corie: We don't know how much was fed to AI versus how much the computer that came up with for itself.
• 1:28:43
  Corie: Like, you understand?
• 1:28:44
  Corie: So to me, like if we have an as standard, it needs to be across the board for everybody.
• 1:28:49
  Corie: And to me, it's fair, it's a fair game.
• 1:28:52
  Corie: Yeah, I think we'll live to see some of these songs all the create that become iconic.
• 1:28:56
  Corie: You think we'll get AI songs in the culture here in Soka that will become like that?
• 1:29:00
  Corie: Um, it could only reach so far because I always say so is a performing art and not a recording art.
• 1:29:06
  Corie: And so, unless you have holograms coming and perform, which could work, I could look into that.
• 1:29:13
  Corie: Yeah, look into that.
• 1:29:16
  Kory: Yeah, because Carnival is such a big part of it.
• 1:29:18
  Kory: Carnival and the parties or fets, such a big part of it that if you are AI artist, then we want to see the artist at some point come out and sing a song and give you the vibes.
• 1:29:31
  Kory: Maybe it's like that, yeah.
• 1:29:32
  Corie: Like you say, COVID times was boredom or poverty, as you say.
• 1:29:35
  Corie: It's poverty during the COVID and uh the virtual thing takes a hold.
• 1:29:39
  Corie: So I see Sheldon Mendoza.
• 1:29:41
  Corie: So Sheldon has been a wrong artist and been a wrong culture for a long, long time.
• 1:29:44
  Corie: I see him do a whole rollout of an AI.
• 1:29:45
  Corie: You saw that?
• 1:29:46
  Corie: He has an artist named Juve.
• 1:29:48
  Corie: It completely designed it.
• 1:29:50
  Corie: Yes, I saw that one.
• 1:29:51
  Corie: In my old age, I was as a cartoon character.
• 1:29:53
  Corie: I don't know who was responsible for it, but it's not a good one.
• 1:29:54
  Corie: Yeah, Sheldon Mendoza is putting the idea.
• 1:29:55
  Corie: Well, at least from what he's the one posting it all the time.
• 1:29:57
  Corie: But the AI doing interviews with Charlotte on the radio, it's coming when it comes to the airport.
• 1:30:03
  Corie: When the woman juve is on it, when she reaches the airport, is AI Johnny Bravo picking she up as a real artist exposure.
• 1:30:08
  Corie: Wow.
• 1:30:09
  Corie: So I wonder when they say performing art, like with so much of our lives being lived online.
• 1:30:14
  Corie: I wonder if them things will start taking.
• 1:30:16
  Corie: Well, I see for a class this year.
• 1:30:20
  Corie: Uh yeah, they had a dad killer perform.
• 1:30:23
  Corie: Right.
• 1:30:23
  Corie: All right, he performed with you, yeah.
• 1:30:25
  Corie: Yeah, so if that could happen and entertain the crowd, then why not?
• 1:30:30
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:31
  Corie: I don't know how much of it you would want in effect, yeah.
• 1:30:34
  Kory: It's it can be overdone.
• 1:30:36
  Corie: Yeah, we can't stand up and watch that screen whole time, but maybe it's our one off and uh maybe, maybe, maybe like on a hearing established in Calypso 2, established producers.
• 1:30:45
  Corie: The term called the name and thing, but established producers and songwriters won't send me a song, two songs the other night, and he said both of these is AI.
• 1:30:52
  Corie: I was a little surprised there because now it's not NCW.
• 1:30:54
  Corie: Oh no, right.
• 1:30:55
  Corie: We we could tell though, or you would hear it, yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:57
  Corie: Yeah, we could tell.
• 1:30:58
  Corie: Yeah, I will send you when you're done.
• 1:31:00
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:01
  Corie: Because I was I was shocked because both of them are from real artists, right?
• 1:31:04
  Corie: But what he said is that the artist just sends you a reference, right?
• 1:31:07
  Corie: He sends them as a skeleton to the beat, yeah, to send a reference back so it's not complete, but you use the AI to complete the song, right?
• 1:31:14
  Corie: I think that people like you all who are professional and experienced, yeah, or they're going to get a different result from me.
• 1:31:20
  Corie: Who are get a sign feel?
• 1:31:23
  Corie: I mean, part of it is musical knowledge and know-how, and part of it is understand how to prompt.
• 1:31:31
  Corie: Right.
• 1:31:31
  Corie: Yeah, I guess.
• 1:31:32
  Corie: That's a big thing, too.
• 1:31:33
  Corie: So somebody who is is like football.
• 1:31:36
  Corie: A man could be a coach and he never played the sport, but you just know how to coach.
• 1:31:41
  Corie: Because you know how to prompt players, in other words, you understand.
• 1:31:44
  Corie: So it's the same thing with music.
• 1:31:46
  Corie: If you in this area where it has AI, you can know how to prompt.
• 1:31:49
  Corie: You don't want to be a musician.
• 1:31:51
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:31:51
  Corie: And so that's a J Lover.
• 1:31:52
  Corie: J Lover will be cussing people in feds saying who's the guardians of soccer and so on, you know.
• 1:31:56
  Corie: I know that comments.
• 1:31:57
  Corie: I saw that.
• 1:31:58
  Corie: I saw that.
• 1:31:58
  Corie: I know it will come, it will come, it will come.
• 1:32:00
  Corie: Just like the dance hall in soaker.
• 1:32:02
  Corie: I think people want to see me too.
• 1:32:04
  Corie: I want to see the artists that I love and this is like you like little sports.
• 1:32:08
  Corie: I want to see the teams that I support, whether it be producers, right?
• 1:32:11
  Corie: I want to see them win.
• 1:32:12
  Corie: I'm not sure if I like the idea, but I might just be old age.
• 1:32:15
  Corie: Yeah, but but at the end of the day, we are entertainers, which means we are here to entertain the people as a big part of what we do.
• 1:32:25
  Corie: If the people are entertained by AI, then we can't fight it because they want to be entertained, they will choose what their entertainment is.
• 1:32:32
  Corie: We can't force them to choose us.
• 1:32:34
  Kory: Facts.
• 1:32:34
  Corie: Right?
• 1:32:35
  Corie: And to meet an answer with guardians of soca.
• 1:32:39
  Corie: Who says that because if I decide I'm not singing no more, I just want to feed AI my songs and I want the AI artists to sing it.
• 1:32:49
  Corie: I'm still the same culture lover who have a different vision for my output.
• 1:32:54
  Corie: Yeah, why is it that somebody needs to guard Soka against that?
• 1:32:58
  Corie: You know, son, it's just a different output.
• 1:33:00
  Corie: And I'm not saying that stop listening to Marshall and Kessanem and just listen to my AI artists.
• 1:33:05
  Corie: No, you you're free to choose.
• 1:33:06
  Corie: I'm not encroaching on anybody's art or expression, yeah, how they create, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:33:14
  Corie: I have our thoughts on that, guys.
• 1:33:15
  Corie: But I'll wait for J Lover to come.
• 1:33:16
  Corie: I have our thoughts on that.
• 1:33:17
  Corie: I have some thoughts on it.
• 1:33:20
  Corie: So back to where Oli was leaving off because you you 2012, 2013, 2014, maybe around that year, all they have proof of concept.
• 1:33:27
  Corie: Somewhere it switched from writing for precision and and and doing your own productions.
• 1:33:32
  Corie: Where that happened?
• 1:33:32
  Corie: What kind of year you were looking at when you started doing your own?
• 1:33:35
  Corie: The the pandemic was when we started producing.
• 1:33:37
  Corie: Oh, seriously, yeah, poverty.
• 1:33:39
  Corie: Oh, I have it, yeah, yeah.
• 1:33:40
  Corie: Yeah, I have the timeline all wrong.
• 1:33:42
  Corie: Today's like a boss was who again.
• 1:33:45
  Corie: Well, all right, so yeah.
• 1:33:47
  Corie: Let's, if we're being real, we weren't credited for certain things.
• 1:33:52
  Corie: I see, but that was because we didn't care to be credited.
• 1:33:56
  Corie: It wasn't because anybody tried to teeth us of anything.
• 1:33:59
  Corie: So, for example, like a boss, deputy sent the skeleton.
• 1:34:04
  Corie: Deputy is he has Trini roots, Grammy winning.
• 1:34:08
  Corie: Yeah, he produced for Rihanna and he was signed to Rock Nation.
• 1:34:11
  Corie: Marshall, no deputy.
• 1:34:13
  Corie: Deputy always wanted to do so.
• 1:34:15
  Corie: He sent a skeleton of what the music was for Lyker Boss.
• 1:34:20
  Corie: It wasn't sounding like so, really, to us, but it had a vibe.
• 1:34:24
  Corie: And we were like, alright, cool.
• 1:34:26
  Corie: So Kevin, myself, and Ryan sat in my bedroom and we started produce adding percussion thing.
• 1:34:32
  Corie: Kevin was talking about the code change he was hearing and thing, and so we produce it.
• 1:34:38
  Corie: But in production, you could create a vibe, but the the samples using, for example, the kick drum, the sneer, it needs to clean up or change because it's playing in the right timing, but sounding wrong.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:34:52
  Corie: Right?
• 1:34:52
  Corie: That was what we were doing.
• 1:34:54
  Corie: We were getting everything in the right timing, but it's just the samples.
• 1:34:57
  Corie: You need to have an A for the final product now.
• 1:35:00
  Corie: So we needed to get it to somebody else, and Marshall knew that.
• 1:35:03
  Corie: So he took it and he worked with other producers, and to get it to where it should have been, Marshall had the idea for the brass, and right.
• 1:35:10
  Corie: So that was that was actually the second one that we produced on the first one was two real.
• 1:35:16
  Corie: I see.
• 1:35:17
  Corie: We actually did two real for Cohen Duba.
• 1:35:19
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:35:19
  Corie: Full production.
• 1:35:21
  Corie: And then we sent it to London Future.
• 1:35:24
  Corie: He added the bass line, switched out some of the drums, and we tell him to take production credits.
• 1:35:31
  Corie: But we weren't confident because everybody would say, Night not ready, or not, it's sounding like they would always complain about how it's sounded.
• 1:35:45
  Corie: Now we know something right about it, but we don't know how to get it to the final product.
• 1:35:51
  Corie: So we never really was too eager to have our own final product, and eventually, through poverty, we we decided we can't wait on somebody to tell us when they're done.
• 1:36:03
  Corie: We gotta figure out when they're done.
• 1:36:05
  Corie: And so that is when we started putting more work on the production, and then so basically the backbone of like a boss, you all come up with that.
• 1:36:12
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:13
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:13
  Corie: I saw him change that yeah, like the years before, yeah.
• 1:36:18
  Corie: Because um again, in the years leading up to that, you still have the groovy game.
• 1:36:23
  Corie: He used to call it the ground game back in the day, still have a juvenile tune and a groovy tune, but the power songs for a while had been what you call like a boss power or groovy.
• 1:36:32
  Corie: Well, that's I was not going to answer.
• 1:36:34
  Kory: The original tempo of that song is not power, yeah.
• 1:36:38
  Corie: So, like the voice only when he on Apple Music and thing, exactly 1.35 BPM.
• 1:36:43
  Corie: I see.
• 1:36:43
  Corie: So that is right at the split of power and groovy.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: I got it, got it, got it.
• 1:36:48
  Corie: So it have the nice melodies and things to it, but Marsha would never perform it at that tempo.
• 1:36:53
  Corie: Yeah, and when we thought he would have going groovy monarch, but he went in power and amped up, and yeah, yeah.
• 1:37:01
  Corie: So plenty people say it's one of his best power, and it's not even really a power.
• 1:37:04
  Corie: Interesting, yeah.
• 1:37:05
  Corie: I have it as one of them.
• 1:37:06
  Corie: Yeah, I have it as one of them because again, it it's somebody road matches, like some it had a you remember Marshall Road matches, was sung in like they play so much that you had to like them, and they play on the road and thing.
• 1:37:17
  Corie: There's no way you're not saying so come off, yeah.
• 1:37:18
  Corie: But they have some that like Big Truck was not stoppable.
• 1:37:22
  Corie: Big Truck was organic from day one, definitely.
• 1:37:26
  Corie: And I remember seeing him in a fight in Anchorage when like a boss, and he was backstage waiting to go on the stage because that year, and maybe for five years after that, the set opened like a boss, the horns, yeah, for some years, right?
• 1:37:37
  Corie: Which he don't usually do, yeah.
• 1:37:38
  Corie: He's typically opened with the new song.
• 1:37:40
  Corie: Couldn't move like a boss boy, and I remember him trouble now, the initial little guitar like now.
• 1:37:47
  Corie: And I remember seeing him going up the step, and I was like, This man, no, he knows yeah, everybody, for sure, you know, and and so again, y'all seeing that happen in real time.
• 1:37:56
  Corie: This this is the first time y'all that win road match, yeah.
• 1:37:59
  Corie: Yeah, this is your first road match or your only road.
• 1:38:01
  Corie: Only only only don't really do power, yeah.
• 1:38:04
  Corie: Yeah, the men said they don't really do power.
• 1:38:06
  Corie: Yeah, that is criticizing that unlike yourself.
• 1:38:09
  Corie: Too fasting of with sweet melodies style power.
• 1:38:11
  Corie: But again, the the when you say you're doing it right on the line is an interesting concept, yeah.
• 1:38:16
  Corie: But then the artists could push it past up when they perform it, yeah, yeah.
• 1:38:19
  Corie: So, like a boss was one of them for y'all.
• 1:38:21
  Corie: It was one of them songs where again, no matter where he performing, I was waiting to see what tiny desk bringing though.
• 1:38:26
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, because I say tiny desk is gonna be a real tiny amount of people.
• 1:38:30
  Corie: I was trying to figure out like what era he would bring to the table.
• 1:38:35
  Corie: Right, it's hard for him, I would imagine.
• 1:38:36
  Corie: I guess, yeah.
• 1:38:37
  Corie: So you're just watching and we didn't know, yeah.
• 1:38:41
  Kory: We didn't know.
• 1:38:42
  Corie: Yeah, so you just checking boxes as you go, though.
• 1:38:43
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:38:44
  Corie: Good place to be, good place to be.
• 1:38:47
  Corie: Glad to be represented.
• 1:38:49
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:38:52
  Corie: So, what other songs, what what in that era, what song, or if there's their song in particular that make you realize, or well, maybe it's from your references where you say you have to go and start doing your own productions just from being able to complete the song yourself?
• 1:39:04
  Corie: Um, apart from the pandemic, um we got to a point where we realized that our business would be dependent on a producer deciding to send us a beat because we could only write to music.
• 1:39:20
  Corie: We don't, we're not the type of writers who just have our idea and we write it and then we find the music.
• 1:39:24
  Corie: So, what if a producer decides he working with an ex writer?
• 1:39:28
  Corie: What would happen to us?
• 1:39:30
  Corie: You understand?
• 1:39:31
  Corie: So we say, well, nah, boy.
• 1:39:34
  Corie: And I remember having this conversation with him, I was like, nah, we need to switch it up or not.
• 1:39:38
  Corie: And I'm always the type where if the team needs something, I feel like I could learn it, boy.
• 1:39:46
  Kory: And that's why we call him Slash.
• 1:39:48
  Kory: I don't know, they know we call him Slash.
• 1:39:51
  Kory: Because he's producer, slash graphic artist, yeah, slash whatever you want.
• 1:39:57
  Kory: Yeah, that's it.
• 1:39:59
  Kory: Yes, that's St.
• 1:40:01
  Corie: George's College KRC on YouTube.
• 1:40:03
  Corie: YouTube is the education.
• 1:40:04
  Corie: Yeah, you don't keep saying only say that casually.
• 1:40:10
  Corie: Like at Bella Studio, you didn't say no.
• 1:40:12
  Kory: I'm telling you because this man going on YouTube and watching a sort of video.
• 1:40:16
  Corie: I called KC asked him who helped him build his own.
• 1:40:18
  Corie: I get a plan.
• 1:40:19
  Corie: I paid a man to do a plan for me and from the So you just figure out production.
• 1:40:25
  Corie: It just went on YouTube, figure out what is you're gonna do, what you're doing.
• 1:40:27
  Corie: Yeah, like I I kind of knew what my weak areas were, and I start to work on it, and I realized that it was starting to sound different.
• 1:40:37
  Corie: And then with things like Splice, I'm not sure if you're familiar with Splice, but it have it have these websites that you could subscribe to and they have samples, like our sample library, right?
• 1:40:49
  Corie: So with things like Splice, I know I can sit down and think up of a chord progression because I'm not I'm not trained like that.
• 1:40:57
  Corie: But Splice has chord progressions, but you could search for it by mood, you're saying.
• 1:41:00
  Corie: Yes, you can search by key, you can search by tempo, like whatever, you can search by genre.
• 1:41:04
  Corie: So again, a feeling.
• 1:41:06
  Corie: And I know we do music based on feeling.
• 1:41:09
  Corie: So if I hear it, I could know.
• 1:41:11
  Corie: And so I use those things to help.
• 1:41:13
  Corie: Like, I'm not ashamed to say that.
• 1:41:14
  Corie: Of course.
• 1:41:14
  Corie: I use those, yeah.
• 1:41:15
  Corie: And so those things would already be mastered and proper it was sounding like final things.
• 1:41:22
  Corie: So then it cut down my work because I don't have to think about how I get into sound how I want to sound it done sounding finished already.
• 1:41:29
  Corie: So that just made it way easier for me to become a producer.
• 1:41:33
  Kory: And then we love to collaborate too from the start.
• 1:41:36
  Kory: Like that is yeah, I guess that's how you come out of the gate.
• 1:41:39
  Kory: Correct.
• 1:41:40
  Kory: So uh and and we're not done.
• 1:41:43
  Kory: So you know what I mean?
• 1:41:44
  Kory: We know to catch up, like we'll catch on quickly.
• 1:41:48
  Kory: So we work with a lot of brilliant producers, yeah.
• 1:41:52
  Kory: And once the energy is right, and you know, sometimes people are willing to share tips and tricks.
• 1:41:58
  Kory: It works, and we learn and we understand what to do next time, and we know what to take, what what to you know, use for.
• 1:42:04
  Corie: So, like, so like for Big Link's rhythm, I would just say this um in particular.
• 1:42:07
  Corie: When we had the rhythm, we know it was real good.
• 1:42:10
  Corie: But I still went to first class, I still went to Nikolai, I still went to Evan Marshall, and they help us hone the sound of it.
• 1:42:18
  Corie: Get the kick drum to song or what needs to sound, um, class had a little percussion for me, like them kind of thing.
• 1:42:24
  Corie: And them is things that as team players we know we're dealing with.
• 1:42:28
  Corie: Them not studying, well, put me down as co-producer or additional production, like nah.
• 1:42:32
  Corie: Kyle play the guitars, Joshua play the bass, like yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:42:36
  Corie: That's something you see now more than any other era, I think, in our culture.
• 1:42:39
  Corie: Where when you look at even the credits, Apple Music is getting credits, thankfully, you know, some sort of C along.
• 1:42:44
  Corie: Well, and I say a long list, some of the same names over and over.
• 1:42:47
  Corie: Yeah, but that's a good thing, you know, where you see a lot of collaborative efforts, yeah.
• 1:42:51
  Corie: So at this point in time, you're all being sought after by artists, right?
• 1:42:55
  Corie: Because if anybody listens to this, they might feel as Marshall alone, but it's plenty of different people.
• 1:42:58
  Corie: I always remember when I follow all the Instagram, right?
• 1:43:01
  Corie: Because of you, at one point in my idleness, maybe COVID again or something like that.
• 1:43:05
  Corie: I say, I go and follow everybody named Corey.
• 1:43:07
  Corie: Once somebody comes up on my thing, Corey, every Corey's a good Corey, every Corey's a good Corey.
• 1:43:12
  Corie: I see Corey FBE.
• 1:43:14
  Corie: I'll never forget, I didn't I didn't know what FBE means.
• 1:43:16
  Corie: Right.
• 1:43:16
  Corie: And then I see Kevin FBE, and I'm like, these fellas and them are thing, boy.
• 1:43:19
  Corie: But I always remember that one of the first things I connected only with was Chester Life.
• 1:43:24
  Corie: What was he working on Chester Life?
• 1:43:26
  Corie: It was writing, it was pretty good.
• 1:43:27
  Corie: Them days they might just see Voice FBE as well.
• 1:43:29
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:43:30
  Corie: Because that was his name back then.
• 1:43:31
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:43:31
  Corie: So what's the story behind it?
• 1:43:33
  Corie: Because So Chester Life, okay, so Voice.
• 1:43:37
  Corie: Well, we used to work with him from since he was in school, right?
• 1:43:41
  Corie: Because same Ryan, who was a part of Full Blown, he went on to do gospel.
• 1:43:45
  Corie: But his younger brother was in class with voice, I think, in St.
• 1:43:49
  Corie: George's.
• 1:43:49
  Corie: So that was after I left Georges.
• 1:43:50
  Corie: Okay.
• 1:43:51
  Corie: Right.
• 1:43:51
  Corie: And he was like, bro, we have a youth man here who's talented.
• 1:43:54
  Corie: Feel all they should work with him.
• 1:43:56
  Corie: Yeah, no scene.
• 1:43:57
  Corie: If you recommend the man, then send him.
• 1:43:59
  Corie: Right.
• 1:44:00
  Corie: So he came, he said he wants to enter a competition that QRC was having, a soccer competition.
• 1:44:04
  Corie: No problem.
• 1:44:05
  Corie: Kevin and I write and produce the song, Detention was the name of it.
• 1:44:09
  Corie: Right?
• 1:44:10
  Corie: Everybody feeling detention.
• 1:44:11
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:44:12
  Corie: Right?
• 1:44:12
  Corie: But we singing about a teacher paying him in detention.
• 1:44:15
  Corie: Right?
• 1:44:15
  Corie: He wins.
• 1:44:16
  Corie: Right.
• 1:44:17
  Corie: He win uh, I can't remember how much of it was, and we was like, boy, keep your money, invest in yourself, do your thing.
• 1:44:23
  Corie: Following year, he came back, he says he wanted to go synergy soccer.
• 1:44:28
  Corie: No problem.
• 1:44:29
  Corie: Well, he wants to sing about, but he said, Well, there's a kind of kid showing us, so some it could be something gimmicky likes about aliens or something.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 1:44:38
  Corie: Alright, cool.
• 1:44:39
  Corie: And he he just said that jokingly.
• 1:44:41
  Corie: I went home and tell Kevin, hey, let's write a song about aliens.
• 1:44:45
  Corie: We do Alien for Voice, which today, people from that era they're still real hype up now, but so we do Alien, he comes second.
• 1:44:54
  Corie: Again, we like, but this now we didn't go and see him perform in QRC, but we went to the amphitheater in St.
• 1:45:00
  Corie: James and saw him perform there.
• 1:45:02
  Corie: From the first time I saw him perform, I say this fella's Astar.
• 1:45:06
  Corie: So after that first time we saw him perform, we started to go back with him.
• 1:45:11
  Corie: We started to, all right, this is how you had to dress.
• 1:45:14
  Corie: This is what you need to do.
• 1:45:15
  Corie: We had to do the green gloves.
• 1:45:17
  Corie: I buy one set of gloves and he spray painting gloves in here.
• 1:45:21
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:45:22
  Corie: Right.
• 1:45:22
  Corie: Um, the same partner who introduced me to music rondel in QRC.
• 1:45:26
  Corie: He used to do graphic design.
• 1:45:27
  Corie: He do voice posters that we went around in schools and stick up and think.
• 1:45:32
  Corie: We say you have to win this.
• 1:45:33
  Corie: So we are full-on campaign.
• 1:45:36
  Corie: And so, yeah, um, he ended up coming second.
• 1:45:39
  Corie: And I remember the night of the finals or the day of the finals, Marshall in the stadium with us, helping us with SFX set up the spaceship.
• 1:45:47
  Corie: And yeah, so it was a real team effort.
• 1:45:50
  Corie: Of course, yeah, of course.
• 1:45:51
  Corie: Right?
• 1:45:52
  Corie: And so good.
• 1:45:53
  Corie: And from there on we say, we want to work with you.
• 1:45:56
  Corie: We believe in you.
• 1:45:57
  Corie: Let we keep moving for some years, because that was 2012, was Soka Star when he was there.
• 1:46:05
  Corie: Yeah, it's right.
• 1:46:07
  Corie: So it had a gap between that and Chelsea Live, which was 2016.
• 1:46:11
  Corie: Right.
• 1:46:11
  Corie: So from for some years we're trying to work, but we realized the transition of soccer star artists to soaker artists.
• 1:46:18
  Corie: And he already, it's kind of small, he's young, so they're watching like a little boy.
• 1:46:24
  Corie: So we say, you know what?
• 1:46:25
  Corie: Here was this scene.
• 1:46:26
  Corie: Come and learn to write with us.
• 1:46:28
  Corie: And you're we already respected in the industry.
• 1:46:31
  Corie: From there, once you're people start to see you around with us, you gain that respect, they know that you're responsible for good music, we launch a career as artists.
• 1:46:41
  Corie: Right?
• 1:46:41
  Corie: Cool.
• 1:46:42
  Corie: So we started teaching how to write, and we say, you know what?
• 1:46:46
  Corie: We go and develop our business structure where even if you write a piece of our song, we're paying you for that.
• 1:46:53
  Corie: But Chester Life in particular, he basically wrote the whole song, right?
• 1:46:58
  Corie: But when he writes something, he would come to us and feedback and advice and that kind of thing.
• 1:47:03
  Corie: So at that point in time, I think he went to Kevin and Kevin and him kind of work out Chester Life.
• 1:47:09
  Corie: Kevin helped him restructure, change up certain parts, that kind of thing.
• 1:47:12
  Corie: Intention to sing it himself at the time, or yes.
• 1:47:14
  Corie: Yes, and then him and Kevin wrote the co and then Patrice on the rhythm as well, on that same rhythm.
• 1:47:21
  Corie: Right?
• 1:47:21
  Corie: Because that was a rhythm.
• 1:47:22
  Corie: Plenty of people let's forget that.
• 1:47:24
  Corie: And alright, the song starting to pick up that same time.
• 1:47:29
  Corie: Voice wrote a song for blacks, right?
• 1:47:31
  Corie: The morning after the soy session with blacks, because blacks had to pay for the song, right?
• 1:47:38
  Corie: Morning after, I call blacks.
• 1:47:40
  Corie: I say, Blacks, he was the scene.
• 1:47:42
  Corie: Give you the song for half price, it feels a voice perform at all-stars.
• 1:47:46
  Corie: He said, That song ain't good.
• 1:47:48
  Corie: Let me talk to Papi and I'll call her back.
• 1:47:50
  Corie: Coming back, he said, Yeah, I'll go on WhatsApp you the itinerary.
• 1:47:54
  Corie: Cool.
• 1:47:55
  Corie: I called voice one time, he knew we.
• 1:47:57
  Corie: He sat a ball on the phone one time because he glad.
• 1:48:00
  Corie: Because people used to always ask who's this little boy rolling with all.
• 1:48:03
  Corie: And I used to always say, once our little boy got stage, we go see who he is.
• 1:48:06
  Corie: Because once he on stage, that's it, and he don't be nervous.
• 1:48:09
  Corie: Oh, serious.
• 1:48:10
  Corie: So great.
• 1:48:11
  Corie: He get one set of shows because all stars killing them them times, right?
• 1:48:16
  Corie: But then now I think, wait, he has all these shows and he had no clothes.
• 1:48:21
  Corie: Yeah, no, these clothes go.
• 1:48:23
  Corie: He he I mean not them days.
• 1:48:29
  Kevon: There's a we had a vision.
• 1:48:30
  Kevon: There's a first impression now.
• 1:48:32
  Kevon: There's a first impression.
• 1:48:35
  Corie: This was from the corporate from December.
• 1:48:37
  Corie: So it was before carnival.
• 1:48:39
  Corie: So he had a dressing suit and them kind of thing.
• 1:48:41
  Corie: So I say, alright, here was the scene.
• 1:48:44
  Corie: Them days I work in Wassa.
• 1:48:46
  Corie: Right?
• 1:48:47
  Corie: I say it gotta be an ex investment.
• 1:48:51
  Corie: Buy the clothes for the season.
• 1:48:55
  Corie: I say, I because that's how much we believe in this man.
• 1:48:58
  Corie: Once he hit them stages and he looking proper, the songs and his talent will do everything else.
• 1:49:03
  Corie: Right.
• 1:49:04
  Corie: So he was good.
• 1:49:06
  Corie: We do the season, whole season now.
• 1:49:08
  Corie: He performing for free.
• 1:49:09
  Corie: Right.
• 1:49:09
  Corie: So it's not even to say he's making back the money and I getting back that money.
• 1:49:12
  Corie: Nah.
• 1:49:13
  Corie: We have no idea how we're gonna make money from this.
• 1:49:15
  Corie: We just know that somehow it's gonna work.
• 1:49:17
  Corie: Right.
• 1:49:17
  Corie: So come on, now he decides to register.
• 1:49:21
  Corie: Cool.
• 1:49:22
  Corie: We had to invest because remember he performed for free.
• 1:49:26
  Corie: So we had to put money there.
• 1:49:27
  Corie: Right?
• 1:49:28
  Corie: Cool.
• 1:49:29
  Corie: Soka Monarch, we handle the semis.
• 1:49:32
  Corie: The night of the semis, I call a meeting home by them because I know for sure we in the finals.
• 1:49:38
  Corie: So I want a plan from now.
• 1:49:39
  Corie: So the night of the semis, we didn't care about no results, and then we start a plan.
• 1:49:43
  Corie: And I say you are talking to voice.
• 1:49:45
  Corie: I say you not responsible for nothing because he's real absent-minded now, but he's a real artist.
• 1:49:50
  Corie: Yeah, so the family, some of the friends, like everybody come together and we started delegate things.
• 1:49:57
  Corie: And I had the concept for the finals performance.
• 1:49:59
  Corie: So we uh draw the the outfits carried by my tailor.
• 1:50:03
  Corie: I say, yeah, make that for him.
• 1:50:05
  Corie: Yeah, you understand, and the fire one, fireworks, and all them kind of thing, like we had to foot all the bills for all that, and that is how Chester Life really got a good chance because had it not been for the investment or for all-stars taking them, like yeah, it had certain steps that was crucial.
• 1:50:25
  Corie: Yeah, his song had plenty elements, yeah.
• 1:50:27
  Corie: So everything ended up coming together real nice, and Chair's alive today is his top three man songs, of course.
• 1:50:34
  Corie: Yeah, one of his biggest songs again.
• 1:50:35
  Corie: I want another one's signature songs, you know.
• 1:50:37
  Corie: Yeah, so you're giving me best, you gave me love and respect, you gave me the chain off your neck.
• 1:50:41
  Corie: Yeah, yes, we did.
• 1:50:43
  Corie: I understand.
• 1:50:44
  Corie: I understand what is happening.
• 1:50:45
  Corie: Yeah, sometimes you have to block our new chain.
• 1:50:47
  Corie: Oh, you get back home.
• 1:50:48
  Corie: You have a new chain.
• 1:50:49
  Corie: Well, it was mine, it was his.
• 1:50:50
  Corie: Well, they say one day you go make it in truth, you know what I mean?
• 1:50:52
  Corie: Or they did say so.
• 1:50:53
  Corie: What is that messing, David?
• 1:50:54
  Kory: All of us will make everybody will make it one day.
• 1:50:56
  Corie: Everybody will make it everybody's smart, you know.
• 1:50:58
  Corie: You see all your writers.
• 1:50:59
  Corie: Listen, I I don't tell people, I don't tell people how much different song we miss out on in this thing.
• 1:51:07
  Corie: Because if we if we come here to talk about just songs, yeah, I feel we're gonna spend whole day so talking to manage to find out when we could get the other date booked.
• 1:51:16
  Corie: We had to find out the other date.
• 1:51:17
  Corie: At least we get it, we get his story behind the fifth song on the full-blown rhythm.
• 1:51:21
  Corie: We get his story behind blocking out the voices, we get his story behind who really driving three and four cars and them kind of thing and put people in place.
• 1:51:29
  Corie: We can't we can do bad, bad, you know what I mean?
• 1:51:31
  Corie: We can do bad.
• 1:51:31
  Corie: But how to actually before you go in terms of this year now, what is it looking forward to?
• 1:51:35
  Corie: Because your song already bubbling, as you say, you're getting a better response to it now than more releases coming.
• 1:51:41
  Corie: What we could look forward to with full blown for sure.
• 1:51:43
  Corie: Um, more releases because we feel like we've definitely been having things to say and different ways to say it.
• 1:51:52
  Corie: So we don't want to starve the people with one song here and then one song there.
• 1:51:57
  Corie: And um, yeah, so we have yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:52:01
  Kory: We we we have we plan to do at least three songs for carnival season.
• 1:52:07
  Kory: Okay, like full blown songs.
• 1:52:09
  Kory: Distracts, um distracts, you know, a little bit of this and a little bit of that, yes, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, but um, we have a plan.
• 1:52:24
  Kory: What I'm most excited about, to be honest, is for the first time in a long time, I feel like we're able to create freely and we have space for it.
• 1:52:34
  Kory: So, even coming out of Trinidad Carnival, we have things that we plan to release, and you know, we just really go and have fun with it.
• 1:52:44
  Kory: Like things that people not going and expect from us, to be honest, based on maybe our catalogue or what in what we're known for.
• 1:52:51
  Kory: Yeah, so I really excited about what's to come within the next year or so, you know.
• 1:52:56
  Kory: I mean, God spare life, yeah.
• 1:52:58
  Corie: Well, me too, because as always, uh it's hard to figure out what you would do next.
• 1:53:02
  Corie: If you're always on the next page and always looking forward to the next thing.
• 1:53:05
  Corie: So keep in mind when all they go on to the next thing, you know.
• 1:53:07
  Corie: I mean, we do a terrible job with time management, but you're um, I mean coffee.
• 1:53:11
  Corie: Just the life and just asked, I'm not gonna take a lot of the same.