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Interview with Mattel! · The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Daniel podcast about the show. Fucking Glenda bood March.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to a very special edition of the Major
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  Speaker 2: Wrestling for your podcast. I am your host, always ready
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  Speaker 2: Matt Cardona.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm your host the most professional wrestler Brian Myers,
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  Speaker 3: Mark you live.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I'm also here producing the shows Ma Mark Sterling
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  Speaker 4: as car. But we have some amazing guests here. We
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  Speaker 4: sum on every other toy podcast under the sun, the
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  Speaker 4: madial guys, and we said, what the heck. Brian was
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  Speaker 4: a little hurt, His feelings were hurt. Broski was pissed.
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  Speaker 5: He was scheeming mad, shaking with anger.
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  Speaker 4: Shaking with anger. But but we asked, and uh, and
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  Speaker 4: here they are, guys, Thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 2: Corporate Robert Magic, You guys can introduce yourselves the proper way,
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  Speaker 2: the corporate way, the.
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  Speaker 3: Corporate your your technical titles at Mattel. Let's let's hit that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God, I'd love to hear it.
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  Speaker 6: Steve Oser, Global marketing manager for Action Figures at Mattel.
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  Speaker 4: Aka Corporate Steve.
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  Speaker 7: Corporate st that's big. Global sounds pretty important.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Magic almost Global, Senior designer at Oh.
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  Speaker 3: My God, lowered away from Jazz West for the big
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  Speaker 3: box of family.
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  Speaker 7: We got another global guy in here.
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  Speaker 4: Holy ship jumped ship, stabbed me in the back.
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  Speaker 7: The Cody Rhodes saw you in here. He couldn't even
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  Speaker 7: introduce himself.
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  Speaker 9: And I'm Robert Rudman, not Global, but lead copywriter for
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  Speaker 9: Action Figures, Brands, WWE and Masters of the Universe.
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  Speaker 6: Ravaged National Right. I believe it's national.
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  Speaker 5: National, Universal, Universal, United States.
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  Speaker 3: The French packaging you gotta step it up.
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  Speaker 7: I do.
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  Speaker 9: Actually, it all gets translated.
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  Speaker 2: Into all right, and uh, you're up next, Bill mckina.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, where's the makina?
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  Speaker 4: He refused.
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  Speaker 7: I heard, we did.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't invite him only as dial up Wi Fi
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  Speaker 2: so we could make this happen. Well, guys, we're here.
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  Speaker 2: This is guys. I don't know if you know this.
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  Speaker 2: This is a special edition episode. This isn't even like
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  Speaker 2: just lumped into our regular episode. This could be a standalone,
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  Speaker 2: bonus free episode on our YouTube, on our podcast feed.
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  Speaker 2: Because this is gonna be big. I mean, you guys
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  Speaker 2: are announcing all the comic Con reveals right for next year.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta tell us all the scoops.
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  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, crowd, the grand return of Card and Myers
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  Speaker 9: and w.
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  Speaker 7: W E Legends deal.
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  Speaker 9: With with with all of Bruski and Chelsea's pets packed
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  Speaker 9: into so many, way too many animals.
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  Speaker 7: The roof. Over the weekend, there was some breaking news.
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  Speaker 3: Former w W superstar Victoria just outright told the world
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  Speaker 3: that she had signed a Legends agreement. So is that
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  Speaker 3: something that excites you, guys that like talent is excited
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  Speaker 3: in kind of promoting the possibilities of you know, having
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  Speaker 3: matel figure. Is that something you'd rather keep under wraps
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  Speaker 3: and have you guys show it when things are ready
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  Speaker 3: to roll.
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  Speaker 6: I think a mix is okay.
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  Speaker 3: Not everything, Not everyone should scream from the rooftops for
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  Speaker 3: you guys, I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Keep a secret when I signed, don't worry.
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  Speaker 7: Right, two SIPs at a live pot of people and everything.
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  Speaker 6: I think I think they're gonna it's gonna come out.
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  Speaker 6: You can move a little faster in the video games
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  Speaker 6: and the app games and whatnot. So some of these names, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: some of these names come out before we can we
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  Speaker 6: can announce the figure unless we'd pull what we did
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  Speaker 6: with the signers and just like flat out say they
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  Speaker 6: signed before anything gets out. But but yeah, it's okay.
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  Speaker 6: It's great to see people like Victoria excited. I hope
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  Speaker 6: there's more in the works. I think there are, and
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  Speaker 6: hopefully fifty percent of them keep things under wraps.
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  Speaker 3: I think I agree as a fan, I think I'd
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  Speaker 3: rather be like a mixed bag for sure, right.
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  Speaker 2: I think Victoria is one that I'm definitely looking forward to.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many different looks, so many different options. There's
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  Speaker 2: there's some meat on the bone, you know, it's not
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  Speaker 2: just one and done. There's some different iconic options for sure. First,
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  Speaker 2: what do I want to see first? I think I
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  Speaker 2: want to see like long hair like kind of like
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  Speaker 2: debut with.
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  Speaker 7: Like Stevie Richards first.
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  Speaker 2: But there's wrestlemaning a twenty A match, right, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of good ones.
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  Speaker 7: About you, Brian. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously when I think of it, I think of the
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  Speaker 3: spider type gear, right, and that's very toyetic. She had
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  Speaker 3: a couple of pairs of that, so I'm sure that
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  Speaker 3: that's something that would lean towards. But that might be
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  Speaker 3: more into the ruthless aggression era, right, I mean, and
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  Speaker 3: that that line is no more so she'll have to
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  Speaker 3: just be kind of.
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  Speaker 7: Edgends where she can't yeah any anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Oh yeah, I guess true. I guess you man,
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  Speaker 3: that's so weird to talk like that, ruth disgression. People
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  Speaker 3: are in Legend, say.
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  Speaker 7: Getting old, Brian, geez, getting old.
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  Speaker 4: You could literally nobody would bat and I literally if
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  Speaker 4: Zach Ryder was in the Legends thing, I was swear
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  Speaker 4: to I would not. By the way, we've been joking
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  Speaker 4: all day about where Broski has been like winking at
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  Speaker 4: people all over the internet about signing somewhere. I think
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  Speaker 4: we just figured it out. I think it is that Legends,
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  Speaker 4: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he said, Zach Ryder is dead, so I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how you guys are going to contact him.
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  Speaker 7: That's to make that happen.
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  Speaker 9: That's living somewhere with the hurricane.
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: But even right before we got fired, we kind of
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  Speaker 2: had Legends figures with that throwback Ringside Collectible's Edgehead thing.
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  Speaker 2: So we're I mean, everyone knows we're old by now,
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  Speaker 2: you know, or that we started.
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  Speaker 7: So young, that's what. Still we're still going, No, bigg
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  Speaker 7: So what what can you spill?
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  Speaker 2: What I saw of these podcasts, you're showing up some products.
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  Speaker 7: I feel offended.
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  Speaker 2: I have to plug these podcasts podcast I say, as
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  Speaker 2: shown on the blah lah l the podcast corporate, Steve
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  Speaker 2: showed off.
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  Speaker 6: This some from there.
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  Speaker 7: I just moved.
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  Speaker 6: You can see it, you can hold on.
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  Speaker 4: I got you.
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  Speaker 7: Second, let's full screen him. Steve, your setup is beautiful,
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  Speaker 7: by the way.
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  Speaker 6: That's great blocking it, not blocking it.
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  Speaker 10: Kamala can't see nothing, no.
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  Speaker 7: Point.
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  Speaker 3: Dusty Ribs Galga, Oh yeah, wow.
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  Speaker 4: That's cool.
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  Speaker 6: Can't be seen up close yet, but it's there.
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  Speaker 4: That's okay, I got it.
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  Speaker 2: That's one that I've been wanting since the Jack's Bone
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  Speaker 2: Country days, and that we're finally getting out all these
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  Speaker 2: years later.
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  Speaker 6: It's crazy Monday Night war. Having built a figure just
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  Speaker 6: like opens up so many possibilities and exciting tertiary looks
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  Speaker 6: or or talent that maybe wouldn't do well on their own.
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  Speaker 6: So uh hey, we had John Tenta, so why not
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  Speaker 6: do Goga totally.
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  Speaker 3: I guess you've always stayed away because of the T shirt,
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, who cares at this point, right? You
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  Speaker 3: know you're not gonna have a license South Park T
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  Speaker 3: shirt and an action figure.
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  Speaker 7: It's very o.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. We tried. We tried. The designer at the time
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  Speaker 6: Hector tried to do like a South Park style Golga
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  Speaker 6: on the shirt and then we had to nix it,
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  Speaker 6: so he no logo. But that's an easy water decal
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  Speaker 6: to Park.
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  Speaker 4: Style, meaning like just as close as you could come
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  Speaker 4: without got it right. So actually, you know, obviously it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be a blank shirt. And people who love
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  Speaker 4: Golga back then know the famous South Park shirt. And
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  Speaker 4: it's very easy if you are a figure collector, it's
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  Speaker 4: very easy nowadays to get a very cheap shirt to
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  Speaker 4: go on him. Is that something you guys ever think about,
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  Speaker 4: like maybe with the Sandman stuff or whatever. It's just like, well,
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  Speaker 4: this would be great. It would be perfect if they
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  Speaker 4: had the shirt, and if somebody wants it, it's easily
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  Speaker 4: you know, they could easily get it. I mean I
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  Speaker 4: certainly will be doing that.
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  Speaker 6: Of course, of course we do it, you know, so
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  Speaker 6: if we that's why Bill likes to leave tattoos and
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  Speaker 6: whatnot blank. You know, it's not as easy as a
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  Speaker 6: T shirt, but you know, like see Impunk tattoo, you
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  Speaker 6: can easy easily get those water decals on eBay. Not
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  Speaker 6: condoning that, but you can get those details on emay
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  Speaker 6: and slap them on there, there's spots for them, so
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  Speaker 6: we do. We do it all the time. There's just
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  Speaker 6: things we can't do. You guys, we've talked to you
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  Speaker 6: about it before in our text and stuff. Well why
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  Speaker 6: this shirt and why not that shirt? It's just like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, if WW gives it to us and gives
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  Speaker 6: us a green light, we can do it, and if
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  Speaker 6: they don't, we can't do it.
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  Speaker 7: You're working within the you know your means, doing the
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  Speaker 7: best you can. It's appreciated. And back to the building
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  Speaker 7: figures for a second.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to say thank you because now it's
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  Speaker 2: actual cool figures, like Disciple, we had the Teddy Long,
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  Speaker 2: It's not just somebody in a suit. So what made
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  Speaker 2: you guys decide Okay, let's let's try some actual figures
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  Speaker 2: and not just some suited characters.
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  Speaker 6: I think the suited character thing is was kind of
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  Speaker 6: like signature WW Mattel for the longest time. But if
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  Speaker 6: you look at other lines, they do anything, anything goes
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  Speaker 6: for building figures, so so why not here for us?
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  Speaker 6: And there were so many talent that we had that
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  Speaker 6: you can get like extra looks out by you know,
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  Speaker 6: just doing a bath of them. So I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if there was like a catalyst moment, but it only
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  Speaker 6: made sense to do it. And I'm glad that the
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  Speaker 6: doors are open for us to explore that now. And
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  Speaker 6: it's like full blown wrestling gear like that Virgil like
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  Speaker 6: half and half like Lex Luger with the pants but
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  Speaker 6: with the ripped Torso bulldog. So yeah, we could do
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  Speaker 6: we could do anything.
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  Speaker 7: The disciple.
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  Speaker 3: It took Eddie Edward's done a toy hunt this weekend
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  Speaker 3: and I showed him. Now, I'm like, look, this is
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  Speaker 3: Booker and Steve Ray, but it comes with the and
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  Speaker 3: you can build it. He was like, because he's not
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  Speaker 3: really a toy. He was like like, good believe. I'm like, yeah,
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: it's a pretty cool, cool world we're living in. I
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  Speaker 3: know the three of you guys pretty well. And one
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  Speaker 3: thing I for sure always appreciate that you guys are
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  Speaker 3: very passionate about your jobs and the toy business. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's not just like a nine to five for you guys.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I feel like you guys wear your heart
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  Speaker 3: on your sleeve. What's something and you can each individually
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  Speaker 3: answer this question, what's something that excites you about your job?
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  Speaker 3: Like you get assigned something or something in your day
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  Speaker 3: to day that you get excited about.
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  Speaker 6: You guys, go fast.
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  Speaker 9: I get excited whenever we find out about new talent,
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  Speaker 9: like whenever we get like Buddha and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 9: It keeps its fresh just constantly, and you start thinking
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  Speaker 9: of like, well, we haven't done this.
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  Speaker 7: Look.
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  Speaker 9: I actually was like under the I was like, there's
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  Speaker 9: no way we would ever get Hurda, and I had
• 11:24
  Speaker 9: ordered one from the customizer, and now and now we're
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  Speaker 9: going to be putting it out and I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 9: there's somebody that would down the tube, but I don't
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  Speaker 9: mind support support other people's creations. But it completely like
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  Speaker 9: it's it just completely like opens up the ideas about
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  Speaker 9: like going down the rabbit hole like constantly every single time.
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  Speaker 9: And then that kind of like opens up fresh areas
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  Speaker 9: on guys who may have been sitting there on the
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  Speaker 9: shelf for a little while about like go now that
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  Speaker 9: we're doing uh, you know, Golga is an example. You
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  Speaker 9: know we've done we had done Earthquake, Now we're doing
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  Speaker 9: Money Night Wars, And then that kind of opens that
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  Speaker 9: up and now it's like, let's do let's do this
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  Speaker 9: obscure book.
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  Speaker 7: So the.
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  Speaker 9: Ever since I came here. It was kind of like
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  Speaker 9: a I tried to not bug step too much, but
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  Speaker 9: periodically I'm just like you heard back on if we
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  Speaker 9: got any new talent, and when he fills the end,
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  Speaker 9: then it kind of like opens up the books.
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  Speaker 7: Cool.
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  Speaker 8: I guess I get excited this thing about like the
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  Speaker 8: ignormity of the position I'm in sometimes, Like it's kind
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  Speaker 8: of a dream position.
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  Speaker 10: For a lot of people, like to be able to
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  Speaker 10: choose what wrestlers to.
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  Speaker 8: Do, to be able to do the first time in
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  Speaker 8: the line for a wrestler who's never got a figure before,
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  Speaker 8: it's kind of like it's like good and bad because
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  Speaker 8: there's a lot of weight on your shoulders, like make
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  Speaker 8: sure it's really good. And I've had some challenges like
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  Speaker 8: in the past of people like that have passed or
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  Speaker 8: people that like just never got to figure for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 8: and this would be like their only shot. So like
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  Speaker 8: it's it's pressure, but it's a really good pressure to
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  Speaker 8: like try to do your best and try to fight
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  Speaker 8: for as much as you can and try to make
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  Speaker 8: it the best figure it can be.
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  Speaker 10: So that's what I get really excited about.
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  Speaker 3: That's cool, man, I appreciate that, but especially, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: we talked about a lot in the show, you know
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  Speaker 3: what a bucket list thing it is for a pro
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  Speaker 3: wrestler to get an actually or so the first time.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like I could see, I never really thought
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  Speaker 3: of it from your perspective, Like there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: weight in the shoulders, you know, so and so it's
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  Speaker 3: getting this first time and it's this big moment in
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  Speaker 3: their life. You know, you want to you know, impress
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  Speaker 3: them for sure. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know that.
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  Speaker 2: I know there's exceptions to like every rule, but like typically,
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  Speaker 2: let's say, like you get to design someone unless it's
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  Speaker 2: like a special like WrestleMania series, do you get to
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  Speaker 2: kind of choose what gear they're in or is it
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  Speaker 2: given to you, like, hey, this is what the look
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  Speaker 2: we're going for, or does it is it a case
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  Speaker 2: by case basis.
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  Speaker 10: Definitely a case by case.
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  Speaker 8: There's definitely looks that come to us, like we have
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  Speaker 8: to make this something really obvious, but like a lot
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  Speaker 8: of the times it's up to us and like Steve
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  Speaker 8: will work together, will sit down and like plan everything out.
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  Speaker 8: It's really fun actually that type of decision making because
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  Speaker 8: it is like a lot of people like where they
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  Speaker 8: spend their money, like you know, like this is their
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  Speaker 8: whole thing, collecting these lines.
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  Speaker 10: So it's really good. It's really good position.
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  Speaker 7: Yea.
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  Speaker 6: For me, I think it's it really is an honor
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  Speaker 6: and it's no bs to be able to give back
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  Speaker 6: to the business now by doing this, to give back
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  Speaker 6: to the fans and be that person on the inside
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  Speaker 6: who can listen to them and try to deliver what
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: they've been asking for for you know, sometimes years or decades,
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  Speaker 6: and like give back to to the talent, you know,
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  Speaker 6: same thing as magic first time in the line, great
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  Speaker 6: amazing moments.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 6: We just had Zoe's Stark at Comic Con and she
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  Speaker 6: got very emotional, which was so awesome to be there
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  Speaker 6: for and be a part of and giving back to
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  Speaker 6: the legends, my heroes from from my childhood, knowing that
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  Speaker 6: you know, if I make a figure of them, they
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  Speaker 6: could do the signing circuit and make bank on that,
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  Speaker 6: and like helping them in some way, and some of
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  Speaker 6: them will really just love action figures, which is cool
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  Speaker 6: to hear, but.
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  Speaker 7: In the words of the great Kevin Nash, check right.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly, or they just like you know, having that other
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  Speaker 6: source of income, which you know, it's it's I feel
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  Speaker 6: privileged to be able to to help in any way
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  Speaker 6: like that, and then you know we're reaping the benefits
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  Speaker 6: of having figures of all these great legends.
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  Speaker 7: Totally.
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  Speaker 9: I'd also love hearing the stories of guys who are
• 15:19
  Speaker 9: big in the business who were like I never thought
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  Speaker 9: that this older version of me would like this, would
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  Speaker 9: ever get an action figure. Undertaker is a great example.
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  Speaker 9: A couple of years ago, we had him as a
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  Speaker 9: special guest at Comic Con and there was a mean
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  Speaker 9: Mark figure that was backstage, and he looked at it
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  Speaker 9: just kind of like he started it for a little while,
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  Speaker 9: just completely in disbelief that that version of him managed
• 15:41
  Speaker 9: to get an action figure. And we managed to kind
• 15:44
  Speaker 9: of like draw out some WCW stories, which is kind
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  Speaker 9: of like a nice little benefit when when speaking with
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  Speaker 9: talent is is they open up about it. Like Steve said,
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  Speaker 9: it's a very emotional moment for them when they see
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  Speaker 9: a figure and and you get some big, some cool
• 16:00
  Speaker 9: tales out of it, which is a real treat.
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  Speaker 7: As a fan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's obviously you guys are huge fans
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  Speaker 2: just in like the work and the figures that come out.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are passionate about it, the attention to detail,
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  Speaker 2: and especially like you know you do all these podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: You're very friendly at the comic cons, like you guys
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: love this too, and it's just so obvious and it's
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: it's way better than just having three guys who are
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: assigned to w You know, you guys give it life,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: so so thank.
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: You for that.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: Tell our bosses so they don't move us.
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: I feel like we have to go back around the
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: horn and do what's the worst part of your job? Sure,
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: and you can't say.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: Same order.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: There's got to be things that without without without getting
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: in hot.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Water, get you in trouble. There's got to be things
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: that disappoint you, guys and break your hearts about you know.
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: Look, there's stuff it's it's a it's a business, and
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: you know things, it's it's work, and there's stuff that's
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: tough that goes along with that. But I think outside
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: of that, I think some some fans who take things
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: too personally across the line. With some things, there's been
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: some frustrating moments of people going way, way, way too far,
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: and you know, nobody's nobody's intentionally messing up or doing
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: anything wrong, like things happen. You guys know, you're in
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: the toy business now. You go through rounds and rounds
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: trying to get things right and and for us we
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: have schedules. We have schedules to it here too, and
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: retail programs, and you got to make the call at
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: the end of the day sometimes and and move on
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: and if something's wrong, fix it later. It is what
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: it is. But that's probably the most frustrating part, you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: the heart that goes into it and uh and sometimes
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: you know, you have to just remember at the end
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: of the day, it's a it's an action figure, and
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: we'll do our best to make good on anything that's
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: wrong later.
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: I think that the crowd fund Nitro stage is a
• 18:07
  Speaker 9: good example of that about like how much blood, sweating
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: tears went into trying to get that thing and the
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: possibilities that could have been with just launching that one,
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: and you know, there was so much harsh feedback on
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: that that it was it was pretty tough. I think
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: that another thing is just like some you know, you
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: talk about how we're fans and sometimes trying to explain
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: reasoning to non fans on the inside. Fortunately, I think
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: that one our end, we've gained a lot of trust
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: because WW is doing so hot and the brand itself
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: in the Mattel end is.
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: Doing really well.
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: But you know, having to explain, you know why something
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: that is so meaningful to us as collectors is something
• 18:57
  Speaker 9: that we should do to someone who might had like
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: the only the only people who they might know are
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: the Rock and John Cena makes it like a little
• 19:10
  Speaker 9: like aggravating at times, but ultimately, like I would say
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: that we've won far more battles than that then we've lost.
• 19:19
  Speaker 9: And there are certain hills that you know that you
• 19:22
  Speaker 9: die on, and there are plenty of hills that you're
• 19:24
  Speaker 9: just like say, save that battle for another day. But
• 19:32
  Speaker 9: in general, kind of like what Magic was saying, feel
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: like super fortunate for being able to do what I
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: do for a living. Like I've said it like so
• 19:40
  Speaker 9: many times, I go back in a time machine. I
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: talked to eight year old me and tell them, You're like, oh,
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: you're going to be working on wrestling toys and HEMN
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: toys and writing those comics, and like half of your
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: job is going to be watching wrestling and the other
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: half is going to be writing about wrestling, and you know,
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: just try to remember all these catchphrases and try to
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: try to capture emotion of that moment. I would have
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: been like a very happy kid, very happy to grow up. So,
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: you know, it's it's splitting hairs for what I have
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: to complain about. I really you know that where I work,
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: who I work with, you know, our team, it's it's
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: it's awesome. It really is awesome. You know that the normal,
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: the normal crap that you know that one would have
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: to deal with at a nine to five job is fine.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: But uh, you know, in the you know, uh, I
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: think that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: Punk, in one of his more recent uh uh interviews
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: on the other Side uh set a line which actually
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: really stuck with me, which was the grass is noise
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: reader on the other side, the grass is greener where
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: you water it. And I think thought that was a
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: very poignant statement and I really kind of attribute that
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: to working at Mattel.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: MHM, you talked about the crowd fund.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask a little question, but on the spot,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: have we seen the last of the crowdfunding from Mattel.
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: For WW or is there something in the world? One
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: for two?
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: So we're back in five hundred here. That's not bad, No,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: it's great. The New Genius a slam dunk success. Then
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: the Nitro stage didn't reach its proper funding or backing
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: that it needed.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: So where do things like that stand?
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: I think we're still on track to do another of
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: some sort, whether it's called a crowdfund or something else.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's made to order, I don't know, but you'll
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: see something similar, like a larger type item, slightly higher priced,
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: point type item offered again. But what we'll see, you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: the Mattell Creations team is is learning and wanting to
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: learn and wanting to nail these things. And you're seeing
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: a lot of trial and error with with other brands
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: in addition to WWE, And I think at a point
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: we'll pull the trigger and move forward with something cool
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: that you know, we have something in mind. Will that
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: be the one? I don't know, but I'm hopeful that's
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: the one.
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: I mean, and internally like the it has a lot
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: of fans because it's a it's a lot of a
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: lot of really good press for the company about like
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: putting something out that's uh, that's really big and really cool,
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: and you know, we're always trying to deliver. It's you know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: it's interesting where where fans are now, I think with crowdfunding,
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: so I think that kind of the pressure to do
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: something that really meaningful is definitely on.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Do you guys look back at that as like a
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: big loss because of all the time and like Robert said,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: the bloodzweent and tears that went into it. I'm sure
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: that there was a lot of designing work and manpower.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Do you look at it as a big loss or
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: maybe just like a learning experience and we'll we'll we'll
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: get it again, or where do you guys stand on that?
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: I I mean it's a loss that the fans don't
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: have that and can't own it. The ones that wanted it,
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: that's a lot.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: I'm furious. I wanted it so bad.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: You know, there's there's one or two out there somewhere
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: at our office. But you know that's a bummer. But
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: you know, when you do a crowd fund like there
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: is a chance it's gonna fail. You're you're you're putting
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: an item out there and you're letting the fans gauge
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: whether they wanted or not. And in this case, they decided,
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: the majority decided they didn't want it, and only a
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: minority wanted it. So it is what it is, like
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: you kind of know that that's happening and you roll
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: with it. It's it's sucks, but it's understandable at the
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: same time. You know, you you speak with your your
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: your wallet, you vote, and they voted that they did
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: not want something like this at this moment in time.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Do you think if it was kind of flip flopped
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: and we saw the success of the line first and
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: then drop the stage because we the stage was up
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: before like the line was out.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: I don't know, because we we announced it. We made
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: a big deal out of that line.
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: In years, some of the guys that they've been making though,
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's not like, yeah, it's like.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: I dug out all my w CW figures and tried
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: to take a bunch of pictures.
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, coming to the office because everything was a salesman
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: in the business. It's Dona Dallas page.
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I just think, you know, maybe that
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: was just too expensive for people. Even though we we
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: lowered that price as much as we could and the
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: margin was slim on it, it was still too pricey
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: for for what people thought they were getting. So understandable.
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: It was.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: It was expensive, but you know, a lesson learned there.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: Maybe maybe next time it's something a little bit cheaper.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: And speaking of the Monday Night Wore line, it's been
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: so successful least you know, the fans love it. You're
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: banging out these great characters, these great looks of existing
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: ca arc is to build the figures.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: Is this going to go on for a while?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Is it going to go away like the Ruth's Aggression
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: line and we're gonna move on to something else?
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: No end in sight. It just got green lit for
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. Nice Magic is the designer on it,
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: ultimates and elites, So I'm super excited to work with Magic.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: Now I work with the previous designer help helping, you know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: manage it. Well, I guess co manage it because it
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: wasn't officially my line, but co manage it and co
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: design it. But now Magic fully designing it. Well, we'll
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: brainstorm and do the creative together and he's going to
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: run with it. So it's it's so awesome, that's amazing.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: I would love to shine some light on the Magic
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: man here for people that don't know. It's kind of
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: kind of the Cody Rhodes of Mattel.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: You know you were there, you went to Jack, you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: and I know you made some unbelievable figures that jazzuhears
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and you know, please, you know, don't don't be so humble,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: shout them out for the people, I mean and the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: work you've done. Uh And and like what I guess
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: went into that decision like to come back.
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: It was a really tough decision, but I think ultimately
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: a lot of it did really come down to, like
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: I wanted to work with Steve and Bill again, like
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: they've been so great and supportive.
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: That's really like was big part of it.
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: And I've always wanted to come back, truthful, Like when
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: I started at Jazz Whar's was always in the back
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: of my mind, like I want to go back one day,
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: And it wasn't until the aw opportunity even came up
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: that I was like so like thrilled and happy to
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: be there. So I was really really fortunate to be
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: in the position I was and that Jamie Pauer put
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: me in. So I'm just grateful for everything, to be honest,
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: and really just the chance to work with Bill and
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: Steven and the whole team again, really what brought me back?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: What's your favorite jazz favorite jazz's figure you worked on,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: And have you done anything that we that's in the
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: market yet for Mattel?
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: Nothing for Mattel yet. A lot of stuff that Jazz
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: have worked on that are still not revealed. So I'm
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: excited for the future, are there. Yeah, there's a lot
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: of good stuff people are gonna be really happy about.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: Okay, Honestly, just the entired line is I was so
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: personal to me and like competing with Mattel and being
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: able to design my own figure to compete with them
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: the place I was just that. So it's actually kind
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: of surrealed now to compete with that figure something I made.
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: So it's really strange.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: But it's so gus that they all live in the
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: same world to me. Man, Like if I was like,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: you know, seven or eight still like deeply fig feding
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: with these things. Man, I was seventeen or eighteen, I'd
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: be I could have went there, but I pumped the.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: Thrilled at the possibilities.
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: It's just it sounds like it seems like so much fun.
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: It's kind of fun too, getting in like a second
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: crack at some people like Cody Rhoads or Saampung where
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: like the most successful figures I did at the other company,
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: and to actually better do it again.
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: I was really upset when both of those people left.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: So it's good Jade Cargill, did you do that one
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: to give to that?
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: That one too?
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that was a great one. Great figure was to
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: see Bill's version of it because it was so good.
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: I thought I did the best one possible.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: But now then tell yeah, what about Ethan?
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: Did you work on Ethan's I did not work on Ethan,
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: but I had a chance to look at it as
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: was being developed, and the designer who did work on
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: did a really amazing job.
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: So I hope didn't pop it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: I have this next to me for the show later
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: that we're going to. I know you worked on that.
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: I didn't work on that one.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: That was a.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that must have been a very similar situation, Like
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: you were talking about being able to provide people their
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: first figures and stuff, and I know Alex was like
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: in and then out and then in and then out
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: for so long and finally they were able to sneak
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: him in with like the Chase figure, So I mean,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I know he was very appreciative and I know that
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: you did work on it a lot.
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: So Yeah, that one was really important to me to
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: get right, Like just because Alex is such a great person.
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: He's been such a kind person to all of us
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: at the Jazzbat team when we were there, when I
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: was there. Yeah, so it was really important to make
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: sure we got.
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: Him a true figure fan the face.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: I actually have it on my desk. The face is unbelievable.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Reason I haven't put it away yet, him.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: And Jeff on my head, I mean.
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: Podcast.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Yes, so so very important question. I haven't talked to
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: you guys in a long time, but we had. We
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: saw a new dude Love figure and it came out
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: and it was awesome and it was a very improved
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: tied I shirt.
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: Did there's new technologies out there? Mark?
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Well, did Matt Cardona's name come up in the meeting
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: during the dude Love discussions? Like we cannot do a
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: spiral circle?
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: It was tribal, The person was tribal, tribal.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: And the figure that ruined the relationship right, the trial all.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Did go downhill from there. That's really I was doing
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: hitting of the end.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: We had a good thing going before that no, No,
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: it didn't come up. I think I think Bill, all
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: of us wanted a soft good shirt from from the
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: get go. It never came up. We just wanted to
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: do the box at right. So but now now you've
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: got to you've got a tribal and you've got a
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: tie die he I said this before.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I loved that original dude love anyway.
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: You guys take on all the like re try.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know what your proper industry term is for it,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Like you know the irs we just saw in the
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Legends line. You know, that's something that was once and
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: now it's been kind of refurbished and redistribute. You know what,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: what what'd your guys take on all that? I mean,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I understand there's the legacy. You know, Mattell has been
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: doing this for fourteen years now, so there is quite
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: a you know, a legacy that you can touch upon
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the people not even been collecting, you know, So it's
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: kind of what's old is new.
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's always once to do improvements on, right,
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: So I think that like I R S was like
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: the example, the first one was too tall, being able
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: to get in the new double joints, new hidden pegs,
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: things like that there's improvements that have been made, so
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: we're even though irs pretty much like had like one
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: look for being able to get an improved figure of
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: him is never a bad.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Thing, especially with the hands on most of the.
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: Most sloppable hands. Yeah, you're able to do like before
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: was like a punch hand and then a grip hand,
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: and now you're able to have a lot more display
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: options and.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: What goes into Some of them are almost identical besides
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the updated joints, but then some have different heads or
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: different color gear. Where's the decision on each individual figures
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: again in case by case.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: Well, remind me. I'm going to go back a little bit.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: Rewind if I don't answer that, remind me the question again.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: But the reason they exist is because we are making
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: so many new figures we literally can't make any more,
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Like we are beyond capacity, like we are churning them out.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: There's so many new figures, which when somebody says like, oh,
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: you have no new ideas, I'm like, we're killing ourselves
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: making new figures, like they're literally dying, shaving years off
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: our lives. We're making so many more we can't possibly
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: make anymore. And the reason I actually was the one.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: So if you want to hate anybody, you can hate me.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: I was the one who started like these re releases
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: because we needed more figures out there, and we didn't
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: want to overproduce our waves because when you overproduce, you
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: clog and then you have this situation where you're screwed
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: up for years at retail trying to clean that up.
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: We've seen it a million times with every single toy
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: line in existence, and it's not happening on WW right
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: now because of the re releases. So you know, there's
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: opportunity retail once more. So we leaned into these re releases.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: So when we first started doing them, going back to
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: your question, Matt, they had to be straight up re releases,
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: no changes except change upgrading them to our modern.
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: Particulation.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, modern articulation, our modern Dard standards of manufacturing. That's
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: what I was trying to say. So d ij on
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: the face, double jointed, elbows, pinless where appropriate, that was
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: the arrangement. Then over time, you know it's been a
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: couple of years now, you start to get them a
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: little more leeway of what you can change. You can
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: change a molded color like on Batista, that ultimate that
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: just came out, changing it to blue better legs. You
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: can swap out the legs for thicker legs on seth rollins. Oh,
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: you can change ahead if you want to, No big deal.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: It's an existing head so you know, working with the factories,
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: we got a little more leeway in what we can change.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: So that's why you see some of that stuff. And
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, it's just like a designer,
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: designer's preference or maybe me me nagging Bill and now
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: Magic to change something on what gets upgraded, or maybe
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: we don't have time, maybe there's just no time. We
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: just have to move on something. You're going to see
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: some some greatest hits. They're just straight up from the
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: same line year, Like there's one coming up with I
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: think L A. Knight and Dom and those are just
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: straight up re releases of the same exact figure, no
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: changes because we literally couldn't there was no time to
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: do anything. We just had to move on it. But
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: that's because the business is red hot, you know, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: we're trying to make sure that from a consumer perspective,
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: you're still getting all the brand new stuff. And then
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: you know that this you know, popular re release stuff
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: like that goes out to the people who don't have it,
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: or maybe there's more meat on the bone for like
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: an l a Knight or a dom or a Cody
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: something like that. You kind of get the best of
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: both worlds of everything there, and if you don't want
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: the re releases, you don't have to buy them.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I mean it's as easy as that, right, just really is.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of what as a fan, what I
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: think we've kind of got to point. You know, I
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: kind of eyeball the old one in the new one
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: and is there enough here for me?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: And then there's you know, I would say the modern
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: day person was like, oh I didn't get this IRS
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: ten years ago.
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: I need one period boom.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: And then you could sell the old one. But it's
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: a little cool, as Brian likes to call it, a coupon.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: You get.
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: What you just purchased.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, it's easy. You talked about improvements. What
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: what went into the decision to massively improve the the
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: basic line. We we've been talking about it, we've been
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: kind of praising it on the podcast. It is the
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: figures are are are collectible again for for adult collectors.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: Uh, we're like.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: We're like, uh, still saying Twitter and stuff. At least maybe, man,
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: maybe I'll get myself in trouble for this. Maybe I
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: want I don't know, but like I've wanted to upgrade
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: the basics now main event since day one, Magic knows,
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: you know, I was like, man, like this sucks. These changes, man,
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: it's just like it made them, you know, almost unplayable,
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: just those subtle little things. And it was just back
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: and forth for years, literally years, and every year when
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: we were going through the process of our having our
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: next line year approved with leadership, we tried, we tried,
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: and I think this last go around that was successful.
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: We cracked the code on what really like amped up
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: the play that we could afford, because you know, the
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: price point was it's tough to keep that figure at
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: eleven ninety nine. So we figured out what maximized the
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: play posability you know, all that good stuff and was
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: meaningful and while we could still afford it to be
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: an eleven ninety nine figure. And they they they let
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: us try. They let us give it a shot and
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: invest the tooling in it, and it has completely revamped
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: that main event basic business. It was never terrible, It
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: was never terrible, but it's great now once again, and
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: it's really exciting to see two PACs doing great. I
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: just saw a posts earlier today. If somebody like fawning
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: over the Shawn Michaels figure from the Bulldog Sean Tupac,
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: he could.
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: Do his pose.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he could do his post and that's the little
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: swivel on the thigh. Thank you Magic and a w
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: Maybe maybe it got that idea from you Magic, but
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: you know, you know that stuff. We all we're all
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: students at the game and by each other stuff, and
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: you know it helped. It helped a lot. And I
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: don't know, basics are are back and better than ever
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: as main events. We congrats.
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: The past couple of Diorabitous players said, like the previous
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: conventions have all been main event.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: It's not.
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: It hasn't been elites and ultimates. So just like the
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: posibility and playability, the stuff that's been catching people's eyes.
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: Those are ell eleven dollars figures.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: You catch that arm drag, that ricky steamboat arm back.
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: It's made a big difference, guys.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, and it's not shocking to hear that businesses
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: up because it's like, now you have adult and kid
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: collectors in on them instead of just kids, which I
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: mean need out to be a real unique get or
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: character for I think adult collector to kind of dabble
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: with those when they were what they were.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well the businessman and me it says, big congrats
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: for taking the leap, believing in that decision that it
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: would do better, and now that it certainly is. That's
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: that's great for you guys, so good job.
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: I think the two packs are flying off the shelves too. Man,
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: the battle packs.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: I think the two packs might be our number number
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: four line something like that.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Wow, it's very much a luxury of a wrestling figure
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: a two pack because it just it fits so perfectly.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: There's not a lot of toilenes. It's like, oh, this
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: needs to be a two pack, you know. It's very
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: wrestling isolated thing. I would like to think.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: I was assisting with another line recently and two packs
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: came up as an option for them, and somebody was like,
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: you don't need them for you don't need two packs
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: for this line, you know. And if you do do
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: two packs, it's just a couple. It's not like deep
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: like WW Lisa, and they were right, We're blessed we're
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: able to do two packs a lot of.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: You can do tag teams, you can do managers, rivals.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, sky's the limit. Really, there's so many different combinations.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I actually think you should do a Chelsea Green and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Adam Pierce or Chelsea Green and Nick All. This sneaking
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: nick alldis into line with a Chase Chelsea Green.
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: Main event. She needs some new figs. I need something
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: to do. I get signed and selling what hypros legends.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: No, I will not.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: If I ever sign a Legends I'll make sure hypebro
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: figure is not allowed a little asterisk not allowed to come.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't want to ruin any kids Christmas anyway, So
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: it's probably I don't think there's.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Any meat on the bone for any more Hypro's figures.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: I think that one was you.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: Need a new basic, You need a new Basic.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: No, I'm glad we got the one because it wasn't
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: a complete waste of my year, of my life, you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: like I got to figure out of it, you know,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: so I got something out of it.
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: If I didn't get a figure, like all the misery
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: would have been for nothing, you know, right, Sure, we're
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: glad to hear that, bro, It's true. I do want
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: to thank you guys.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Let's that's the last time we're gonna bear Mojo's name
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: ever again. I do want to thank you guys for
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: bringing back the retros. We gave you a lot of ship.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: When they were put on ice, I thought we'd never
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: see him again. And uh, I'm a huge fan of
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: what you guys been doing with them. I've been getting
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: them all.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: I love it.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I got I got a bunch of blaze right here
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: on my desk, right here. I'm excited. I'm excited for
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: what's next, plans to keep going with the line. I
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: know you guys do another ring, which is awesome, that
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: that Purple Royal rumble ring. I'm a retro for these suckers.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for these.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: That's it, man, Dude, you were giving us such a
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: hard time in the group chat, and I'm telling you,
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: I kept telling you I'm working on them. I'm literally
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: working on them.
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: I gave up.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: These aren't These are dead in my mind. That's how
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: long it takes. It takes a long time.
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: It took so long. I was like, it's not going
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: to take two years.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: At the end of the day, but a new concept
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: and toy takes at least a year, and like it
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: was totally revamped how we were doing it. Anyway, they're back.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: We are having our discussions now. I just mentioned, you know,
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: Monday Night Wars was greenlit for twenty six. We're having
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: those discussions now for for retros for twenty twenty six.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: So we're actively, you know, working on the next steps
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: for retros ringside carrying them.
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: Jim Cornette craps all over the copy.
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: Oh it's great, I love it. So you guys see that.
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: No, it happened every time and again in Cornett. So
• 41:57
  Speaker 9: the Cornet podcasts they start like they do action figure
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: segment segments, and Cornett says, these moves that are made
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: up from someone who obviously knows nothing about wrestling, and
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: you know, we just like, you know, it's it's the
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: Bundy listlight of I didn't know that I had to
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: get cracked by Jim Cornett.
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: But you know, the.
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: Initially when we did the first round, it was all
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: trying to replicate the guy's moves, and now it's like
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: actually calling out kind of like.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: Those the made up moves that they had fun of it, right, Yeah,
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: It's a lot of fun. Was the Nikolai Ki.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Rob and I we had to we had to pivot
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: from He had a very you know, Russian Cold War
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: esque move prior to the kick. Ali and Rob and
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: I got it a call and we're just going through
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: names and then I think you said Nikolai Ki and
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: we both started dying and like that that's the one.
• 42:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the worst get the better it is.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: You know what's crazy. I'm looking at this. I have
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: this list. We did the we Want Retros figure of
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: the Week for thirty one weeks. We we would bring
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: up what retro we want and I'm just looking at
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: this list. I think you guys have since it came back,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: made fifty of the thirty. So you've been knocking off
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: some of our top wants in that line and also
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: surprising us with some really cool ones and all that.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: So, speaking of new innovations, guys, please tell me the
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: knuckle Crunchers are greenlit for twenty twenty six.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Oh they are, Oh man, nice, They're so fun.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: They're fantastic child toy.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm so excited to see you know, you you
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: got it right one when the adults love them too,
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: The freedom loves them.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just man playability, price point, uniqueness, accessory.
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: I mean it's like.
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: So now now we're just trying to expand that that
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: world that we're we're building there, Like who else can
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: we make that's still viable, like from a kid's perspective,
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: Like you don't want to go too deep on a
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: line like that necessarily, but maybe maybe we'll sneak one in,
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: you know when nobody's.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Looking disciple build a knuckle crunt.
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: Knuckle country. Yeah, that.
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: The that the usually these kids product, these kids lines
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: are usually like a year and out, and this one
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: has had some longevity. So it's been fantastic.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: That's what Brian mentioned on the pot A Bunch. It's like,
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: this is great, hopefully continues because usually you get like
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: one or two lines and and that's it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: Well, a lot of that, you know, is dictated by
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: retailers and you have to make decisions like super early
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: in the process. But the retailers are really excited, so
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: we haven't we haven't had this for a long time
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: any and I'm sure part of that is w W
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: being red hot also right now. So it's it's it's cool.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: I'm glad we got something that's sticking around for a
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: little bit. I think Reckon was the last thing that
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: lasted this long.
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah right, yeah, that would have to be right. So
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: you guys don't get to bring back the Power Slammers
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: anytime soon.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: Oh boy, are those the handshake wrestlers? We talked about
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: them all.
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: Those are the worst wrestling figures in history.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I saw I'm at a flea market when I was
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: on that fake with Edwards and I showed him, I'm like,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: these are They're horrendous.
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: If you signed that deal, Matt, that's the first figure
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: that's coming.
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: Out, I have already. I already have one Power.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: You get a new one. You're getting a new one
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: in the box.
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: It looks hot.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: That's your that's your WrestleMania figure.
• 45:51
  Speaker 9: Oh man, that'll be the return of the hype Ross.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, yeah, I'd say that's the biggest matel That
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: would be flop of all time. It was yeah, yeah,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: what was Remember the ring was made of like balsa
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: wood or something, and it it was like a plastic
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: ring what it was like.
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: But it was like it was like a baku gonth.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: It was like what you put on top of like
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: a birthday cake, so like to cover it when you
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: bring your friends, you know, like will cover for the cake.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: I think I wasn't there, obviously I hear stories, but
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: I think it was one of those things where it
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: was an inventor item, and you know, they went there
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: and they saw it and they turned it on and
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: everybody was like, look at them go and it's just
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: you know, people got excited and the ball got rolling,
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: but then there was actually no playability other than like
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: watching them flip around. But they they invested in it emotionally,
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: and and here we are. It's part of our history.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: That's that's our that's our that's the commercial falls through
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: the wall.
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe that might be for the Buddy.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: It's the same time the Buddies and those kind of
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: the same exact time.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: Remember that mania in New York, New Jersey where the
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: whole uh Mentel statement was about the buddies and and
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: those figures. I walked in and walked right out.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: We had a talent meeting for those buddies in the figures.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: We'll never forget. Oh man, that was crazy.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: And that's when I stole the Buddy because I'm like this,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: this might not come out. There's like the Zach Ryder
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: character was kind of cooling off and it was there
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: on display, and I asked, I asked Bill for it,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: and he said no, and I just took it.
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: That was a huge.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Display of all the like current product loose and like
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: kind of super glued to some like risers. And then
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: he had That was the first time I'd ever seen
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: my Kurt Hawkins basic and I was like, oh, I
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: canna build the same things. He said, no, you can't
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: take this. And then I saw somebody catering I figure.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I said, how did you get this? Oh, they're letting
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: you take stuff now. So I went back to the
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Hawkins and I took like a Tully Blanchard legend. I mean,
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: I was thinking, like I have like twenty figures after that.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I'm sure Bill had a heart attack.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: But whatever, did Zoe Starks ever get her figure that
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: that Bill wouldn't give her a comic con?
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: Did she ever get it?
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: Probably not. That's my fault. I am so busy. I
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: haven't chipped anything out. I have a whole pile of
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: stuff that I have to ship out, and that's one
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: of them. So she will get it. She will get it.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to screw over. It's in the pile.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Comic Con, that the Shawn Michaels really cool
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: the zip line. What what went down where he wasn't available?
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: He's like not in stock yet? Is there a reason
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: why he?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: Man?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: He was developed to be released later in the year,
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: and we pulled him in to make him the Comic
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: Con exclusive.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: So it became like an online only exclusive. And that
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: you know, it happens more often than you might realize.
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: I think another company, another big toy company, had a
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: lot of their items online only and they shifted much
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: much later last year and the year before that, So
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: it happens. But I'm glad this one came out and
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: Sean did the PR rounds for us and it was
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: super cool and it was a nice way to cap off, like,
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: you know, forty years of WrestleMania by doing doing mister WrestleMania.
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: Totally. It's a great figure. I have it right here. Actually,
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: thank you for sending it to me. I appreciate it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're the only one that I was able I
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: personally was able to send one out to Still I
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: still don't have the other samples yet I have I
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: have one here one Lucy.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: But Brian, you don't have that, right, Brian, I do
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: not have a pre order and I'm just waiting.
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: That's okay, Brian, I don't have one either.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: So after all this time in the toy business, Like,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: what's what's still on your guys bucket list? Is there
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: something that you know you'd like to accomplish that you
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: dream about still get done?
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: WCW luchadors Man like so many of the those guys
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: would love to get. I'm under a deal Psychosis park.
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: Day, Night War Series, the Rule in general.
• 50:11
  Speaker 9: I mean Bill de La Parker, chairman of the board. Yeah, yeah,
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: I mean that's one where those guys were just action
• 50:21
  Speaker 9: figures in themselves. So that that's top of mind for me.
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: For me, I have never had a chance to do
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: any of these guys that I grew up watching, So
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: I'm excited for this opportunity, like start doing Caine Xpac
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: all the Money Network people will be working on.
• 50:35
  Speaker 10: I'm really good for that.
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: Like it's all new to me.
• 50:38
  Speaker 10: Sounds pretty hyped.
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: I've checked off so many Every year I make these
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: lists of like what I want to try to make happen,
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: and some things have to carry forward like several years,
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: like Referee, Gobbledy Cooker, Papa Shanko, Ultimate, like all these things. Now,
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: I just think it's just expanding that legends list that
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: we have with guys that we never thought were possible,
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: and you know, things are ever evolving with WW so
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: maybe I'll get to them. Maybe. I mean Rob mentioned
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: the Bluccha doors. My god, that'd be great to be
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: able to to incorporate those, but just more names, more
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: names we've never done before.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: We didn't have talked about the ultimates a lot here,
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: So I think that like the sentiment among the podcast guys,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: or at least when they first started coming out, we
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: were under the impression that ultimates would be maybe six
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: a year. We thought they were going to be you know,
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: it would take you a long time to have like
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: a fig fed of ultimates, but they ended up being
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: you guys are just banging them out. We're getting Monday
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Night Wars guys, we're getting throwbacks current guys. It's it's
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: pretty unbelievable where you could just have just ultimates and
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: have complete collections.
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: Was that always just collected Ultimate?
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Was that always the intent? To like see how this
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: goes and then just ramp them up. Or did you
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: guys also think that it was going to be six
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: a year or something.
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: I never thought it would become what it has become.
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: I knew it might grow a little more than what
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: we were doing because we out of the gate, we
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: already grew it more. It replaced that slot of like
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: defining moments and entrance grates, that higher price point slot
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: for us. And you know, we had problems because you
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: shipped so many because they were quarterly at the time,
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: and then you know, you wind up putting a ton
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: of them on clearance and then the line it's performance
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: goes into question. So we doubled that, right, and we
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: had two per waves, so I think it was eight
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: figures per year to start with. And then I knew
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: we'd do some exclusives, probably here and there. I tried
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: to get some Jamacho Man to be an ultimate, but
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: that was shut down. Why does it need to exposing myself? Yeah,
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: but yeah, why does it need to be an ultimate?
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: Was said to me. But it's they just do so well,
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: They do so incredibly well. We we had no choice
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: then but to slowly ramp things up. And everyone wants
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: them as exclusives, and you know, we needed to add
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: more waves per year, and now we're we have to
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: re release them once again, so we're not overshipping anything.
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: And I'm really proud that that's something that that this regime.
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: Magic was involved in that process too, my myself, Bill Rob.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: We made something happen here that really is lasting the
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: test of time, which is really crazy to think about.
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah, when the first came out, it was supposed to
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: be just like this would be like your finite figure
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: of your favorite superstar, but strike while the iron's hot,
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: and the iron has been like white hot, and now
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: it's kind of become like the Papa.
• 53:55
  Speaker 10: Shava Warrior the Greatest Grudges two pack.
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: It's like become now you can and recreate these unforgettable
• 54:03
  Speaker 9: moments in like not just putting two figures next to
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: each other, but like the finite detail of some of
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: these moments. It's it's pretty spectacular that you wouldn't be
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: able to get Warrior with like the bleeding Head dripping with.
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: The Black Ooze as a regular.
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: Figure, probably not, but as a spare ahead you can,
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: and and it's it's it opens the doors for so
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: many different opportunities the Coliseum collection recreating like the LGN line,
• 54:33
  Speaker 9: it's it's pretty amazing, kind of like what it's opened
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: the doors toill definitely wasn't the plan, but what it's
• 54:38
  Speaker 9: kind of evolved into has been just like nothing short
• 54:42
  Speaker 9: of spectacular.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: And speaking of the Colosseum collection, I think that's one
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: of my favorite things you guys do, is how about that?
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: Is that going to live on?
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: Or So we have more sets that we have not
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: announced yet and they're kind of in the same boat
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: as retros in the discussion phase of twenty twenty six now,
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: so they're on the table. We just got to get
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: those approval approvals from senior leadership on moving forward with them.
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: So I'm hopeful, you know, the well is running dry
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: unless we get some deals of viable pairings. But but
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: I think that's going to happen. I think, you know,
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: there's some some names that have been tossed my way
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: that are very exciting that are perfect for coliseum collections.
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: So we'll see cool.
• 55:28
  Speaker 9: Ted RCD and Corporal cursoner.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: Different heads, double st Jones with the two with the
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: red shirt and.
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: The other sho man.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: That'd be awesome, Steve. Steve said it before. I'm gonna
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: put you in the hot seat. You mentioned the one
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: and only macho man. Any updates, You don't have to
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: give us a finite answer, but give us something nothing,
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: nothing on that front like what we see man, Mattel product.
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, you might know more than me. You're you're
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: working with them or working with his people.
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: But I love the checks we're sending.
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: I think it's it's gonna happen. There's no way he
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: doesn't come back into that.
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: That's crazy.
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: But you know, maybe the break is good and then
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: he'll come back. He'll come out of the gate hot
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: whenever that does happen, and and it's on at that moment.
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: But but yeah, no updates. Unfortunately up to you whether
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: you buy things on the black market or not.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Well, guys, we've had you for an hour. We don't
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: want to keep you on any longer. Thank you for
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: you know, spilling the beans and some things, letting us
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: know what's coming out. You know, obviously we've have a
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: podcast about wrestling figures. We all love wrestling figures, and
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: you guys are the heart and soul Mattel. So thanks
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: for coming on and We can't wait to see if
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: you guys are showing him for the next couple of months,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: the couple of years, and let's let's make some cool
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: fucking figures.
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys, passion and your friendship. You know,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: mckina couldn't make it tonight because he was working on
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: a Shinskey figure.
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: I'm sure he was missed. He was here in spirit. Yeah,
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: damn it.
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: Thanks guys, our pleasure guys anytime.
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah so yeah, thank you.
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