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Phil Anderson, Candidate for U.S. Senate · Ask The Experts

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  Thirteen ten Wiba Madison in the morning, Sean Praible with you, joined right
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  now by Phil Anderson, candidate for US Senate. Phil, how you doing
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  this morning? Great, Sean, thanks for having me on. I appreciate
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  it. Thanks thanks for talking with us this morning. It's been a number
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  of years since I've had a chance to chat with you. And let's let's
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  get right kind of down to it. Of course, you are running for
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  US Senate currently the seat held by Tammy Baldwin. Eric Hovedy is the Republican
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  candidate. You're a libertarian. Let's talk about why you're running and how you're
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  different from the other two kind of establishment candidates. So to say, well,
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  I'm running because basically our government is broken, and it has been for
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  a number of years. The big moneyed interest the lobbyists run the government.
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  They give a ton of money to candidates, to the RNC, to the
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  DNC. Those same lobbyists right the bills. The people in charge of those
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  parties make sure that they're representatives, they're voting accordingly, or they get primaried,
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  and we end up with a government that's not representative, that doesn't represent
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  us, that doesn't work, and is basically being run by not the city
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  as it was intended, and not even by the representatives. Really, It's
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  being run by lobbies, by industries, by big pharma, by military industrial
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  complex, and I basically just had it. So, as you mentioned,
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  I am a libertarian, but I'm running this time as an independent under the
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  slogan disrupt the corruption. And the reason that I'm doing that is because this
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  is a coalition campaign. There are a lot of people who are disaffected Republicans,
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  disaffected Democrats, disaffected MAGA folks, peace activists, people that were fighting
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  for Julian Astons to be free. All those different people realize that the problem
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  is the same for all of us, and that is that we do not
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  have control over our own government anymore. Phil, it feels like a lot
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  of folks are talking this morning with Phil Anderson, candidate for US Senator.
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  It feels like, you know, the things that you talk about is if
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  you get a chance, you know, and obviously you're doing a day in
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  and day out, But people that talk politics with friends and family, you're
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  kind of echoing what I hear and I think though, and what I've never
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  been able to understand is a lot of folks talk about you know, I
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  want I want somebody independent, I want somebody that's representing me, you know,
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  I want to do away with the corruption. But when it comes to
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  election day, they kind of check those same two boxes. How is this
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  any different? And how do you work to kind of land that message and
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  actually have a real actual shot at winning this Well, the challenge obviously is
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  money being noticed by the public, getting getting my information out there, meeting
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  people. I've done a lot of that. I've been campaigning all across the
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  state, so that's been effective so far. But I think that you'll see
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  the level of unpopularity of the candidates, not just at the presidential level,
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  but the number of people that may identify as Democrats but who are unhappy with
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  Tammy Baldwin because she's just doing the same old thing. She comes around every
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  six years. She talks about what she delivers, even though it's money that
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  was taken out of our pockets in the first place. They see Eric Huby
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  as a candidate who was recruited by the Senate, the Senate Committee, the
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  US Senate Reelection Committee, not recruited by this state Republicans here, who doesn't
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  have a record of doing anything other than coming back to Wisconsin to run for
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  office occasionally, and they're becoming more and more aware of what's going on.
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  And I think that's also we're also being helped by independent media too, as
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  you probably know, independent media like Joe Rogan, Sarker, Carlson, people
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  like that are more listened to now than mainstream news sources. So there's a
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  lot of hope, and it makes it difficult to campaign. But we're getting
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  better and better each time around. We're getting more followers, raising more money.
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  We've blown past our fundraising from the last couple of times I've run.
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  So we have hope and we're not going to give up because the problem is
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  that important to fight. Got to ask you, I've got some of the
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  information for the upcoming debate, and I'm noticing it's only two candidates. I've
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  got to guess that that's not helpful for you, is when it's kind of
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  closed off to anyone other than the two big parties exactly. The Wisconsin Broadcasters
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  Association runs those debates. Their criteria are you have to have raised half a
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  million dollars by July thirty first or by the August first, reporting to a
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  VC and be pulling at ten percent. Now, when I entered this race
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  in twenty sixteen, I was pulling at nine, So I don't think the
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  ten percent is going to be that much of a problem. But raising half
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  a million dollars is definitely a barrier because of what I started off with,
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  and that is that mainstream candidates, Republicans and Democrats have zero problem raising money
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  funneling money into their campaigns because they're bought and paid for. Somebody who does
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  not represent those big money interests has more of a challenge. But I encourage
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  everyone who's listening to look into the campaign Anderson Forusenate dot com, look at
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  the page that talks about ballot debate access, and we do have a way
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  in if we raise enough money by July thirty first, and we're on our
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  way. Talking this morning with Phil Anderson, candidate for US Senate, Phil,
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  as we talk about some of the issues, then I know something that's
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  been big for you is your perspective is government overreach, that the government's too
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  involved. How do you kind of untangle that and what are some of those
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  areas that are kind of key to you that that you say, this is
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  kind of one of those areas that really resonates with folks. As far as
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  overreach, well, I think one of the main things, and this is
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  overreach, but maybe not in the way that people normally think about it,
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  is the constant state of war that we're in, the government is constantly getting
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  us into wars and complex overseas. We know they've been lying about most of
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  them, if not all of them, since Korea. And that's the constant
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  stream of money that's coming from either our taxpayer's pockets or it's being printed or
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  borrowed and being laundered overseas to come back to the military industrial complex and whoever
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  else. That's a huge example of government overreach. But also I think it's
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  a shame and I'd argue at the sin that our government is at war with
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  the very rights that they're supposed to protect. We've seen government influence social media,
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  try and try and influence what social media is putting out there, spying
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  on its own citizens. These are things that we shouldn't have to be fighting.
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  The government, if it were represent and defending the constitution, would be
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  defending those rights and making sure that they weren't infringed upon. But they're the
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  ones that are actually doing it, and so we don't even know what our
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  government is doing with our money. We don't even know what's going on behind
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  the scenes. And I'm not talking about top secret things. I'm just talking
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  about how they actually work. So until we break that government overreach of the
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  warfare state and the secrecy state, we don't even know what's going on in
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  government, and we can't even inform our representatives on how to help best represent
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  us. Do you think the US should be supplying the Ukraine with financially or
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  with weaponry or do you think that something we should be staying out of.
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  I think it's a long long issue that we could have avoided a long time
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  ago. We shouldn't have helped overturn that government in twenty fourteen in the first
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  place. We should have Right now, we need to scale back and pull
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  back from that and help negotiate a peace. There was a peace agreement on
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  the table a couple of years ago that we sent Boris Johnson over to kill
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  it. The Ukraine and Russia are ready to We had a peace agreement two
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  years ago and the West killed that for the purpose of, like I said,
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  being able to cycle money and weapons. Do there for the benefit of
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  those who are among the donor class in the military industrial complex. Talking this
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  morning with Phil Anderson, candidate for US Senate running as an independent in Phil
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  got a couple of minutes left here, I do want to give you kind
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  of a chance to for folks that obviously listeners of the station and others out
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  there that that that tune in very oftentimes influential talk with talk with us,
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  tell us a little bit about about what you would do as we've as we've
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  kind of covered some of the stuff and some of those bigger issues like,
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  for example, who would you caucus with? How I you know, how
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  do you proceed after after let's say you do win coming up in this next
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  election, how do you proceed then? Well, I'm not exactly sure.
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  It'd be pretty groundbreaking to be the first independent well unless you're unless you're counting
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  Bernie Sanders, so I wouldn't count as an independent anymore. But i'd be
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  caucusing by myself, I guess, and in essence, especially if the proportion
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  of the Senate is down to fifty forty nine, if I belong to it
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  fifty one forty eight, and then in essence, and I have an opportunity
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  to wag the dog there, and they'll be coming to me to vote on
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  things at confessionals from either side, and hopefully author some legislation. But my
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  biggest hurdle will be trying to get heard amongst all the noise in the Senate,
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  and I expect that just being revealing of the process. Do you remember
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  when Tammy Baldman tried to pass the Restrict Act basically outlaw on TikTok among other
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  things. It was Ran Paul who stood up and pointed out that they were
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  trying to pass that at eleven thirty at night without a quorum. And that's
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  the sort of thing that I would participate in. I wouldn't have a lot
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  about opportunity to author legislation and be you know, to do that sort of
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  thing, but certainly pull the wall off of everything so that people can see
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  exactly what's going on and standing up for at least transparency piece and what should
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  be what our government should be doing is what I'll be doing every day.
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  Bill Anderson, candidate for US Senate. Phil thank you so much for your
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  time and we'll talk real soon. Thanks. Sean Dan O'Donnell comes right next.