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- 0:00Speaker 1: I like it.
- 0:02Speaker 2: It's like I'm the least responsible person here.
- 0:05Speaker 1: What, you don't have to?
- 0:06Speaker 2: Yeah, like it feels good. Like I don't need to
- 0:09Speaker 2: know what's going on at all.
- 0:10Speaker 1: You run things for a living. Yeah. That's what you do.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Even with the Wednesday show, they're going to be executive producers, so.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I'll be on it.
- 0:19Speaker 4: Welcome back to So Shameless. I'm here with a few
- 0:23Speaker 4: good friends of mine. Before we start, Daja here. Is
- 0:29Speaker 4: everybody okay? I'm not talking to the people here in
- 0:33Speaker 4: the cast. I'm talking to the people that's out there.
- 0:35Speaker 4: Y'all been sending me weird messages.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Oh my God, we're left with Ty. Yo, let's be real.
- 0:41Speaker 5: Can we be real for a second? Dodge ain't been
- 0:43Speaker 5: here for two months. Y'all ain't miss her.
- 0:46Speaker 4: All this time, y'all wasn't saying nothing. Once she actually says, hey,
- 0:50Speaker 4: that's my last episode. Now, all of a sudden, y'all
- 0:53Speaker 4: are frantic.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Yo, we all right. She's left us in good hands. Hands, me,
- 0:59Speaker 1: my hands. Everything's going to be fine. My hands is crazy.
- 1:05Speaker 6: What?
- 1:05Speaker 1: It was just giving her her flowers. You know, I
- 1:08Speaker 1: get it.
- 1:09Speaker 4: We were giving her her flowers, and we're not done.
- 1:14Speaker 4: We are doing a live show. Dodgers' last live show.
- 1:17Speaker 4: We're putting on for all of her fans, all of
- 1:21Speaker 4: her friends, all of the guests that's gotten so close
- 1:24Speaker 4: to her over the last eight years.
- 1:26Speaker 1: You can come on out. It's right here in Brooklyn.
- 1:29Speaker 4: Tickets will be available to the people on Patreon first
- 1:33Speaker 4: and her personal friends and guests. Only 100 people will
- 1:37Speaker 4: be doing. So if you're not part of Patreon, God
- 1:41Speaker 4: bless you. But they're going to get access first. And
- 1:45Speaker 4: then afterwards, maybe a week, maybe two weeks from now,
- 1:48Speaker 4: I will make the tickets available to the general public.
- 1:52Speaker 4: It's going to be a dope-ass live show.
- 1:54Speaker 1: All right? I got plans. I got big fucking plans.
- 1:57Speaker 1: All right. I'm sitting here.
- 2:02Speaker 5: With my boy, Charm. I've known this nigga since I was, what,
- 2:05Speaker 5: 14 years old?
- 2:05Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. How you doing, my brother? I'm good.
- 2:08Speaker 1: I'm great, man. You all right? Yes. My boy, yesterday. Yes, sir.
- 2:13Speaker 1: I've known this nigga since he was in the goddamn
- 2:15Speaker 1: baby carriage. How you feeling today, brother? I'm feeling good.
- 2:19Speaker 1: My brother, how you doing? I'm all right. I'm all right.
- 2:22Speaker 5: And, damn, do I call you my account?
- 2:27Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Can I call.
- 2:28Speaker 5: No, I asked you this last time.
- 2:30Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 2:31Speaker 2: It's multifaceted.
- 2:33Speaker 1: The boss.
- 2:34Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 2:34Speaker 1: The boss. Hefa.
- 2:37Speaker 5: Chris, what's up, man?
- 2:39Speaker 1: How you feeling?
- 2:39Speaker 2: I'm great today. Energy, electrifying.
- 2:43Speaker 1: I think she took something.
- 2:44Speaker 2: I definitely did.
- 2:45Speaker 1: She took some shrooms.
- 2:45Speaker 2: I'm high off of life right now.
- 2:47Speaker 1: What? You got a big check just now?
- 2:49Speaker 2: I'm manifesting it.
- 2:50Speaker 1: You got a big check?
- 2:51Speaker 2: No, I'm just like... You can't just wake up in
- 2:54Speaker 2: a good mood one day and just be feeling like,
- 2:55Speaker 2: you know what? I'm just infecting people with my good
- 2:57Speaker 2: energy and I usually.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Have sex that morning.
- 3:00Speaker 7: It's after I have sex. You ever walk down the
- 3:02Speaker 7: block after busting some ass? You'll be like, yo, nothing
- 3:05Speaker 7: can hurt me.
- 3:06Speaker 1: I'm great.
- 3:07Speaker 4: I'm in a great mood right now. You know what
- 3:10Speaker 4: I'm saying? Especially you proud of the work. Her body
- 3:13Speaker 4: was looking crazy.
- 3:13Speaker 1: You killed.
- 3:14Speaker 5: She's laying there like this.
- 3:15Speaker 1: You're like, I gotta go to work. I gotta get
- 3:16Speaker 1: some money. Be back. Have some food on the table
- 3:18Speaker 1: when I get back. You know what I mean? Look
- 3:21Speaker 1: at Prince. Over getting some money?
- 3:24Speaker 4: Before I give you the better I think the money
- 3:28Speaker 4: do at this point in my life. I think the money,
- 3:31Speaker 4: especially when it's a good money.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean. Five figures, something like that.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Something nice. Hit your account. Ah! Nice big check. You
- 3:38Speaker 1: walking around with money in your pocket?
- 3:40Speaker 6: No.
- 3:41Speaker 1: I have not.
- 3:41Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't, people ask me cash. I'm like,
- 3:44Speaker 4: I don't even know what that is anymore. Cash is
- 3:46Speaker 4: a sign of brokenness to me at this point.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:49Speaker 5: All that y'all, what are y'all doing? That money, I
- 3:52Speaker 5: got money.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Let me stop. Let me stop. I'm blessed. How are
- 3:55Speaker 1: you even getting a.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Hold of cash at this point?
- 3:57Speaker 7: I only ask because that straw with the money in
- 4:01Speaker 7: your pocket is.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Y'all bugging out. Y'all bugging out. You actually do this?
- 4:05Speaker 1: You be like this? In the store? Got time for that?
- 4:08Speaker 6: Beep.
- 4:08Speaker 1: You want to know what's crazy? No, I don't. I'm
- 4:13Speaker 1: all for the apple. It's just there. Look. See how
- 4:17Speaker 1: many calls? See how many calls?
- 4:18Speaker 7: Look, look, look.
- 4:19Speaker 1: He keep adding to it. That money in your pocket
- 4:22Speaker 1: just feels like... The minute....
- 4:27Speaker 4: But see, he be having different money. He like the
- 4:29Speaker 4: way he want to have 80 bands in his pocket.
- 4:31Speaker 1: He was like, yo, I'm not.
- 4:33Speaker 4: Because that 80 is not making it home. The minute
- 4:37Speaker 4: that 80 go, you go out, that's 67 when you
- 4:40Speaker 4: get home. By the time you get home, you're like, damn,
- 4:42Speaker 4: because you got it. It's like today, it's funny we asking, damn.
- 4:47Speaker 4: I was going to bring this up later. I'm in
- 4:50Speaker 4: a corner store. I go beep, hit my shit. But
- 4:54Speaker 4: matter of fact, before I go, dude is sitting there,
- 4:56Speaker 4: he's like typing into the pad.
- 4:57Speaker 8: Beep, beep, beep, beep.
- 4:59Speaker 4: A customer is typing into the pad, trying to get
- 5:02Speaker 4: his numbers into the pad. I'm not thinking about it,
- 5:05Speaker 4: but I noticed like, damn, people still do that. Typing
- 5:07Speaker 4: their credit card numbers into the fucking, the shit. So
- 5:10Speaker 4: I go get my whatever, whatever.
- 5:12Speaker 1: I'm waiting.
- 5:13Speaker 4: The dude's like, all right, you go ahead. So I
- 5:14Speaker 4: hit beep. I turn around and walk out. And I
- 5:17Speaker 4: turn around. Dude is like on the phone. I say, yo,
- 5:19Speaker 4: your card ain't working?
- 5:21Speaker 1: I go to hit the pad. I say, yo, I
- 5:23Speaker 1: got it. Don't worry about it.
- 5:24Speaker 5: The nigga, like the nigga who was on the phone,
- 5:27Speaker 5: he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 5:29Speaker 1: It's a nigga. He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 5:32Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I do it for you today. You
- 5:33Speaker 4: do it for somebody else tomorrow. Lady behind him is like,
- 5:36Speaker 4: God bless you, brother.
- 5:38Speaker 1: You know?
- 5:38Speaker 3: Right?
- 5:39Speaker 5: Like, people don't do anything. I said, yo, we got
- 5:41Speaker 5: to take care of each other, bro. You get this
- 5:42Speaker 5: for my tomorrow.
- 5:43Speaker 1: So I hit him. Beep.
- 5:44Speaker 7: And I turned around and walked out. I didn't think, though.
- 5:48Speaker 1: That probably made him feel like a bitch, didn't it?
- 5:49Speaker 1: Masculated him. Especially in front of a woman.
- 5:52Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 5:53Speaker 1: He did it on the walkout, like a matter of fact.
- 5:55Speaker 1: And then spun? Yeah. That was crazy. He holding up
- 5:57Speaker 1: the line, though.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Nah, fact.
- 5:59Speaker 1: He was just trying to be efficient. I was trying
- 6:01Speaker 1: to be. Community.
- 6:02Speaker 9: Was he?
- 6:02Speaker 2: He was holding up your spot in line or you
- 6:04Speaker 2: just doubled back?
- 6:05Speaker 1: I went around him. He was in front. Oh, you
- 6:07Speaker 1: went around him. I'm way behind him.
- 6:08Speaker 5: So the dude was.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Like, yo, I got you. Don't worry about it. While
- 6:11Speaker 1: he figures his thing out. Prey, what you think?
- 6:16Speaker 2: I mean, but you know what's messed up about it?
- 6:17Speaker 1: I wouldn't have did it as well. I'm sorry.
- 6:19Speaker 6: Nah, no.
- 6:19Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good thing to do it, for real.
- 6:21Speaker 2: But it's a double-edged sword, right?
- 6:24Speaker 1: Because.
- 6:25Speaker 2: being the masculinity part of it. I don't know why
- 6:30Speaker 2: y'all feel like y'all can't be helped. How would you
- 6:32Speaker 2: feel if it.
- 6:32Speaker 10: Was done to you?
- 6:33Speaker 7: I think I would have accepted it as well. I'm confident.
- 6:37Speaker 7: Maybe my card really wasn't working. Something happened to me yesterday.
- 6:41Speaker 7: This is that whole new iPhone coming out.
- 6:44Speaker 1: That's what happened.
- 6:45Speaker 7: Yesterday, I was in the gas station and I'm double
- 6:49Speaker 7: tapping and no.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Apple Pay was coming up. Nothing was coming up. It's
- 6:54Speaker 1: like it didn't exist. Just a real glitch.
- 6:55Speaker 7: I'm trying to double tap and it's just turning my
- 6:58Speaker 7: phone on and off.
- 6:59Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 7:00Speaker 7: Maybe if that happened to me in the moment, it's
- 7:02Speaker 7: like six bucks and you're like, yo, God, I got you.
- 7:05Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, good looking.
- 7:06Speaker 5: Good looking.
- 7:06Speaker 3: I feel you.
- 7:07Speaker 1: I've been just fine with that. Speaking of, matter of fact,
- 7:10Speaker 1: Preem is here. I didn't introduce you. My bad, my brother.
- 7:13Speaker 1: My fault. I probably jumped in there. No, no, no.
- 7:16Speaker 1: It's fine. It's fine.
- 7:18Speaker 5: Preem, please tell these people who you are. I don't
- 7:22Speaker 5: want to do it.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Because I don't even know who you are no more.
- 7:25Speaker 1: I don't even know who you are no more. I'm
- 7:27Speaker 1: just a man. No, no, no, no, no. You can't
- 7:29Speaker 1: do that. Humility.
- 7:29Speaker 4: I love humility. I love humility. Prem is one of
- 7:36Speaker 4: the founders. I believe one of the founders.
- 7:37Speaker 1: The founder. The curator. Shout out to Nate, too. Also
- 7:42Speaker 1: part of your team, right? Of Rich Flix.
- 7:45Speaker 10: Correct.
- 7:46Speaker 1: The incredibly growing. This shit is growing out of control.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Is it out of control? It is getting out of control.
- 7:53Speaker 1: It's getting out of control.
- 7:56Speaker 4: Rich Flex is one of the, and we're going to
- 7:58Speaker 4: talk about this. We're going to talk about these parties
- 7:59Speaker 4: and shit like that. But before we get into all
- 8:01Speaker 4: of that.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Lil Durk, not guilty. How y'all feel about that?
- 8:10Speaker 10: It's always good news. You want to see a black
- 8:16Speaker 10: man down? That don't mean he ain't do the shit, but,
- 8:19Speaker 10: you know, I'd still rather him be out.
- 8:21Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie, bro. Nigga smoke you? I
- 8:27Speaker 1: did it.
- 8:28Speaker 4: I mean, I'm going to say not guilty in the court,
- 8:30Speaker 4: but I'm running down. I'm trying to find somebody to
- 8:33Speaker 4: kill a nigga that killed my man.
- 8:35Speaker 7: This came up in a, this topic came up before
- 8:40Speaker 7: the verdict. This topic came up on your podcast. And
- 8:43Speaker 7: you guys were saying something I disagreed with.
- 8:45Speaker 1: What was it?
- 8:46Speaker 7: And I don't remember right now and it's upsetting me
- 8:48Speaker 7: because I should have been here for that.
- 8:50Speaker 1: We were saying.
- 8:51Speaker 7: What were you saying? No, they were saying. Because I
- 8:54Speaker 7: didn't say it.
- 8:55Speaker 4: But the ladies were on the couch like, oh, niggas are.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Chasing the streets, trying to stay in the streets. That's
- 8:58Speaker 1: what it was. How do you know?
- 9:00Speaker 5: Because I was like, yo, the women, y'all don't understand
- 9:03Speaker 5: that shit.
- 9:04Speaker 7: I didn't like it. I didn't like it at all.
- 9:05Speaker 7: And I remember, I didn't like it. Whatever that conversation was,
- 9:08Speaker 7: I didn't like it. You want me to play it?
- 9:10Speaker 7: I mean, you can, but I didn't like it. I
- 9:12Speaker 7: didn't agree with something. It was the ladies. They were
- 9:15Speaker 7: being very.
- 9:16Speaker 2: I didn't hear it.
- 9:18Speaker 10: You know, judgmental of, you know what I mean? Play
- 9:21Speaker 10: it for context because I wasn't here. I remember the clip.
- 9:24Speaker 1: I remember. I remember.
- 9:25Speaker 7: I was just watching that. I was watching that the
- 9:28Speaker 7: other day. But to answer the question on that. Y'all agree?
- 9:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:34Speaker 4: Are you hiring to take somebody's life? Because they killed
- 9:45Speaker 4: your best friend.
- 9:48Speaker 10: Your best friend.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Don't got family.
- 9:55Speaker 6: To handle that?
- 9:57Speaker 8: Did you need to rap about it?
- 9:59Speaker 7: If you really want to revenge, you won't have to
- 10:01Speaker 7: brag about it.
- 10:02Speaker 8: Never want to leave the streets. It's like, they'll be
- 10:04Speaker 8: in the streets.
- 10:04Speaker 1: I got to make it out.
- 10:05Speaker 8: Got to make it out. And then they get to
- 10:07Speaker 8: a point where they can leave the streets alone.
- 10:08Speaker 1: And it's like, no.
- 10:09Speaker 11: And it's like, I feel like their mentality is, if
- 10:12Speaker 11: I leave the streets, I feel like a pussy. It's like,
- 10:14Speaker 11: the whole goal is for you to get money and
- 10:16Speaker 11: leave and enjoy your bread.
- 10:18Speaker 8: And now you can't enjoy nothing because you're in... in jail.
- 10:20Speaker 7: But the street life is deeper than just a want.
- 10:23Speaker 5: Like, it's a life.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Okay, so explain. That nigga's brother got killed. His manager
- 10:26Speaker 1: got killed. His best friend got killed. You don't just
- 10:28Speaker 1: be like, all right, let me just leave this shit alone.
- 10:30Speaker 8: So he's next? Listen, all that just sound like excuses.
- 10:32Speaker 8: My thing is, do you want to be next? Do
- 10:34Speaker 8: you want to die too? Who's more important, these niggas
- 10:36Speaker 8: that when it comes.
- 10:37Speaker 12: Time, we'll rat on you or set you up to
- 10:40Speaker 12: be next.
- 10:41Speaker 8: And it's just like, the streets don't love nobody. If
- 10:43Speaker 8: you had this one f * * * ing life,
- 10:45Speaker 8: the man is against you. The white man wants you
- 10:48Speaker 8: to stay at the bottom of society.
- 10:50Speaker 11: And miraculously, you became a millionaire, multimillionaire, and you didn't say, whoa,
- 10:55Speaker 11: let me make sure I keep this s * * *.
- 10:57Speaker 8: No, instead, you was like, the streets! And then you
- 11:01Speaker 8: f * * * ing lost it.
- 11:03Speaker 10: You know.
- 11:03Speaker 1: What are we disagreeing with? What are we thinking?
- 11:08Speaker 7: I feel like her heart was in the right place,
- 11:11Speaker 7: but she was just coming from a place of somebody
- 11:13Speaker 7: who really doesn't understand that the relationship or the marriage
- 11:18Speaker 7: between coming up somewhere, being successful, and that transition and
- 11:24Speaker 7: how it happens.
- 11:24Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Dirk was in the streets.
- 11:26Speaker 7: I wouldn't say he was in the streets. Life was
- 11:30Speaker 7: happening around him, and some of those things were street things,
- 11:34Speaker 7: but he wasn't necessarily in the streets. You know what
- 11:36Speaker 7: I'm saying? Dirk wasn't going, Vaughn was his little man.
- 11:40Speaker 7: We obviously know that's what started. And then a lot
- 11:43Speaker 7: of things snowballed from there. So it's just, I really think,
- 11:48Speaker 7: but it was funny. It was for good content. Because
- 11:51Speaker 7: at first I was like, she don't know what she
- 11:52Speaker 7: talking about. Then she said, the streets.
- 11:54Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, that's some good stuff right there.
- 11:56Speaker 7: But I wouldn't agree that, you know, Dirk had a
- 11:59Speaker 7: problem leaving the streets alone. What I will say though,
- 12:03Speaker 7: what I will say is, that listen what i will
- 12:06Speaker 7: say is that rap specifically specifically like that that bubble
- 12:13Speaker 7: of success does force you to like you gotta take
- 12:18Speaker 7: certain things with you like you you just can't leave
- 12:22Speaker 7: certain things alone like they come with you it's not
- 12:24Speaker 7: like you go get a job tomorrow and you go
- 12:28Speaker 7: from making you know 80,000 a year to 800,000 a year, right?
- 12:34Speaker 7: Because you're a CEO now, whatever. You can take you,
- 12:36Speaker 7: your wife, your kids, and move to Minnesota with this company,
- 12:39Speaker 7: and that's that.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Cannot do that as a rapper.
- 12:42Speaker 7: It's part of the whole thing is imagery, is these
- 12:49Speaker 7: music videos.
- 12:51Speaker 1: I mean, it's also, they got to be able to
- 12:53Speaker 1: feel the real on you.
- 12:54Speaker 7: That's what I'm trying to say. It comes with that.
- 12:56Speaker 7: It is part of the life. You know what I'm saying?
- 12:58Speaker 2: I'll say this, right? I think sometimes we get caught
- 13:00Speaker 2: up with this or that and not and. Two things
- 13:04Speaker 2: can exist at the same time, right? Because you're right,
- 13:07Speaker 2: there is a lifestyle. Realistically, you're famous in your rap
- 13:11Speaker 2: because you're telling a story. It's not any different than
- 13:14Speaker 2: the scrolls and the scribes. People want to read the
- 13:16Speaker 2: history of your life because people can't touch it. And
- 13:19Speaker 2: you're right. When you're rapping about certain things, you can't just.
- 13:22Speaker 5: Rap about it.
- 13:23Speaker 2: You have to live it. You don't respect the ones
- 13:25Speaker 2: that don't live it. And there's a lot of imposters
- 13:27Speaker 2: out here. So there's duality. The thing about it is
- 13:30Speaker 2: you're right. So many people died. It's close to him.
- 13:33Speaker 2: He's not really out the streets in a way. I mean,
- 13:36Speaker 2: out the streets in terms of, yeah, he's working, but
- 13:37Speaker 2: he's got his people around him. He's got his family
- 13:39Speaker 2: around him. Now, as far as the verdict, it's not guilty.
- 13:44Speaker 2: So whatever happened wasn't proven that it happened. So for me,
- 13:49Speaker 2: it really doesn't matter. But I don't think people who
- 13:52Speaker 2: move the way they do move with a way of
- 13:54Speaker 2: just like not being aware of themselves. Everybody knows the
- 13:57Speaker 2: consequences of what they do. It's this or that, you know,
- 14:00Speaker 2: when it comes to the consequences. I might get caught,
- 14:02Speaker 2: I might not, but listen, it was worth it to me.
- 14:06Speaker 7: I think as far as, because I never answered the
- 14:08Speaker 7: verdict part, as far as the verdict part goes, I
- 14:11Speaker 7: never thought he was going to get found guilty until
- 14:15Speaker 7: his man started snitching to the capacity that they're snitching on.
- 14:18Speaker 1: That did shock me a little bit.
- 14:20Speaker 7: I got really weary at that point, but I never
- 14:23Speaker 7: felt like, I'd just be feeling like, everybody involved wins.
- 14:26Speaker 7: I'm talking about the prosecutors, the DA, it's like, it's
- 14:30Speaker 7: career changing.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 14:33Speaker 7: You know, situations for everybody, everybody, including Dirk, you know
- 14:37Speaker 7: what I'm saying? And obviously they got him again.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Yeah, they trying to run him back or something though. Yeah,
- 14:43Speaker 1: there's something, no, it's still, you know, Dirk is still.
- 14:45Speaker 2: When they want you, they want you.
- 14:47Speaker 7: He's still not in there, but on that, like whatever
- 14:50Speaker 7: that was holding a life term, I don't know. I
- 14:52Speaker 7: think outside of like, Torrey maybe was the only time
- 14:55Speaker 7: I thought somebody was going to beat something and didn't
- 14:58Speaker 7: beat it. I don't really believe it. It'd be a
- 15:01Speaker 7: lot going on in the background. Like I said, people
- 15:03Speaker 7: be trying to make careers out of even throwing the
- 15:07Speaker 7: bait that far.
- 15:08Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying?
- 15:11Speaker 7: Again, there's a lot to prove what he was getting
- 15:14Speaker 7: what he was on trial for.
- 15:17Speaker 5: If he wasn't being a crab to his shooters.
- 15:20Speaker 1: And.
- 15:20Speaker 7: That's what it is too. Let's just be real. It's
- 15:23Speaker 7: just the fact that he's just being a crab.
- 15:25Speaker 2: No, but you gotta look at it that way.
- 15:27Speaker 5: He didn't pay them niggas.
- 15:28Speaker 1: He didn't pay them niggas. He kept like ducking niggas.
- 15:32Speaker 1: He kept knocking them niggas. He hired them to shoot niggas.
- 15:35Speaker 7: He's like, you didn't get who you're supposed to get.
- 15:37Speaker 1: You didn't get who you're supposed to get. Allegedly. Allegedly.
- 15:40Speaker 1: You didn't get who you're supposed to get.
- 15:42Speaker 7: He's like, yo, you can hit somebody else and thank
- 15:44Speaker 7: you for showing up, but that's not what I hired
- 15:46Speaker 7: you for.
- 15:46Speaker 2: I'm proud to say all is fair in love and war.
- 15:50Speaker 2: You didn't do the job. It's what did you expect, realistically.
- 15:54Speaker 2: But like you said, to him to be found guilty
- 15:57Speaker 2: had to be more than hearsay. Because everybody wanted to
- 15:59Speaker 2: get off on their own charges, so that's not reliable.
- 16:02Speaker 2: You know, now, as far as how people live their life,
- 16:04Speaker 2: you got to let them live their life and do
- 16:06Speaker 2: street justice. Because sometimes street justice is the only justice.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Yesterday, I heard you over there sucking your teeth. What's
- 16:12Speaker 1: going on, bro? Nothing.
- 16:13Speaker 13: You disagreed with Prem? Only when he said that Dirk
- 16:17Speaker 13: wasn't in the streets.
- 16:18Speaker 1: That's the only thing I couldn't. I was like, ah,
- 16:20Speaker 1: that's tough.
- 16:21Speaker 5: What is in the streets? Because you're surrounded by street niggas?
- 16:24Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
- 16:24Speaker 13: We're not even going to do that. Little Dirk is
- 16:26Speaker 13: the voice of the what? streets so this is what
- 16:29Speaker 13: I'm saying.
- 16:30Speaker 1: You can't beat a voice in the streets if you.
- 16:33Speaker 13: No how you a spokesperson for something and you not
- 16:35Speaker 13: there I was there I'm not there anymore nah and
- 16:39Speaker 13: still nah I'm talking about current day like right now
- 16:43Speaker 13: I'm not talking about like an OG or a legend
- 16:45Speaker 13: I'm talking about current day like who the kids look
- 16:47Speaker 13: up to I.
- 16:48Speaker 7: Mean whether or not they look up to him doesn't
- 16:50Speaker 7: really have anything to.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Do with so I don't know I just couldn't.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Agree with him so you're saying once you get to
- 16:55Speaker 2: the next level you can't claim the streets anymore.
- 16:58Speaker 13: No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, I think
- 17:00Speaker 13: once you start getting up into the millions and millions
- 17:04Speaker 13: of dollar level, I think that you got to just
- 17:06Speaker 13: take a second and third thought sometimes about shit. It
- 17:09Speaker 13: can't be like how you would do back in the
- 17:11Speaker 13: day and just react.
- 17:12Speaker 1: You have something to lose. Yeah, like you got way
- 17:13Speaker 1: more to lose. You know what I'm saying?
- 17:14Speaker 13: You are somebody, especially for your family, for your people,
- 17:17Speaker 13: for your kids. So you got to think differently. With
- 17:20Speaker 13: all due respect. Millions of dollars on the table. This
- 17:23Speaker 13: is why I always talk about you growing up over there.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Because....
- 17:27Speaker 4: Nigga, that's just a wake up, eat cereal together. You
- 17:31Speaker 4: go through mad shit together. This cut I got on
- 17:33Speaker 4: my arms because I was saving you for some shit.
- 17:36Speaker 4: Niggas be like, the sandbox is gunshots for niggas. And
- 17:39Speaker 4: going through mad shit together. So once I catch this deal,
- 17:44Speaker 4: I'm supposed to just dip on you niggas and that's it? Bro,
- 17:47Speaker 4: we talking about brotherhood.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
- 17:48Speaker 7: And we talking about, I keep telling y'all, these niggas
- 17:51Speaker 7: find more comfort with their mans than anything else.
- 17:54Speaker 1: We family.
- 17:55Speaker 7: These chicks, with all due respect, chicks be trying to
- 17:58Speaker 7: get you. Trying to down you, trying to, what do
- 18:01Speaker 7: they say, don't bring no chicks to your crib? How
- 18:04Speaker 7: y'all understand that? But you can understand it now. Chicks
- 18:07Speaker 7: be really trying to scam niggas and take niggas whole
- 18:11Speaker 7: character for, nah, you be around your mans, they hold
- 18:14Speaker 7: you down. That nigga done popped my man in the
- 18:17Speaker 7: head in front of me. I done held this nigga,
- 18:19Speaker 7: he died on my arms on the way to the motherfucking,
- 18:22Speaker 7: the hospital.
- 18:22Speaker 1: And I'm supposed to just be like, well, I'm dirt. No,
- 18:25Speaker 1: so I'm going to contract my other mans to go
- 18:27Speaker 1: and do some shit?
- 18:28Speaker 5: No, that nigga, I contracted him.
- 18:30Speaker 1: I got into relationship with him because he was a killer.
- 18:32Speaker 1: I think.
- 18:35Speaker 7: That's another misconception with this whole murder fire. They say
- 18:41Speaker 7: things like that because technically that's what it is, but
- 18:44Speaker 7: it doesn't work out like a conversation like, hey, I
- 18:47Speaker 7: will pay you for, it's more like a, yo, handle
- 18:50Speaker 7: this and I got you or, you know, do this
- 18:52Speaker 7: and I got same way you send a nigga to
- 18:54Speaker 7: the store and hit him with a little, it don't
- 18:56Speaker 7: really be like a conversation like they, you know what
- 18:59Speaker 7: I mean? But I think what's most important is now
- 19:03Speaker 7: more than ever, especially with the amount of reach that
- 19:05Speaker 7: nobody can have via social media or, you know, if
- 19:09Speaker 7: you're guilty in the court of public opinion, more times
- 19:15Speaker 7: it's going to be bad for you.
- 19:16Speaker 1: But when you have.
- 19:18Speaker 7: A sea of people rooting for you or pulling for you,
- 19:21Speaker 7: I think that matters as well. I'm telling you, and
- 19:23Speaker 7: you can see the way it plays out with the
- 19:26Speaker 7: ditties of the world or the Tories of the world
- 19:29Speaker 7: or the 6-9s of the world.
- 19:31Speaker 1: It's definitely fake, though.
- 19:33Speaker 7: Once the public not really with you, it's really easier for,
- 19:35Speaker 7: you know what I mean? Because especially in jury trials,
- 19:40Speaker 7: You know, it's easier for you to beat something because
- 19:43Speaker 7: you think that those 12 people in the jury don't
- 19:46Speaker 7: have Twitter or Instagram or, you know what I mean?
- 19:50Speaker 1: Mean?
- 19:50Speaker 7: Imagine somebody's a super Drake fan and you just hearing
- 19:53Speaker 7: Drake pouring all this money into this legal.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Oh, Drake believes in him, I think. It makes a difference. Today. Today, specifically.
- 20:00Speaker 1: All those things play a part, so.
- 20:04Speaker 2: It's definitely strategy and, like you said, money. But realistically,
- 20:07Speaker 2: the lesson learned from all these people is, you know,
- 20:10Speaker 2: you got to be masterminding if you're going to do crimes.
- 20:13Speaker 2: You know, you got to know who you're doing stuff with.
- 20:16Speaker 2: You know, you can't be just outsourcing one-offs for hits.
- 20:18Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? You got to have enough
- 20:20Speaker 2: money to have a team and all this stuff if
- 20:22Speaker 2: you're going to.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Move like a monster.
- 20:23Speaker 4: Chris, you're moving back. Fuck that street shit. Niggas is
- 20:27Speaker 4: getting money doing all types.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Of other shit now.
- 20:29Speaker 4: Fuck that shit. Teacher, bring your little man with you.
- 20:32Speaker 4: The niggas that ain't got that lost in their hearts.
- 20:35Speaker 1: Bring them niggas. Put them up.
- 20:37Speaker 4: Hire a nigga to be whatever, your driver. Hire another this, that,
- 20:40Speaker 4: and the other. Fuck that street shit, bro. But I
- 20:45Speaker 4: will say this. Dirk has released some new messaging. And
- 20:50Speaker 4: I felt like because we had that conversation last week,
- 20:53Speaker 4: it's important to play it.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Just to, you know... Bring it full circle. Let's see
- 20:57Speaker 1: what he says.
- 20:59Speaker 14: I need one legitimate reason, one logical reason why it's free, Dirk.
- 21:03Speaker 8: What does Dirk beating all his charges do for the community?
- 21:09Speaker 7: Grammy award-winning Chicago rapper Lil Dirk giving students the chance
- 21:13Speaker 7: of a lifetime.
- 21:14Speaker 8: This week he.
- 21:14Speaker 14: Flew 19 Chicago high school students to St.
- 21:17Speaker 8: John's University in New York.
- 21:19Speaker 1: I want to say thank you for the opportunity and
- 21:21Speaker 1: flag me up. to New York.
- 21:22Speaker 2: This is my first time flying on a plane.
- 21:25Speaker 1: And me personally, I always look for opportunities.
- 21:27Speaker 2: I ain't really had that many opportunities.
- 21:29Speaker 9: Well, a special delivery from Chicago's own Lil Durk, the rapper,
- 21:33Speaker 9: helped feed more than 1,000 emergency room health care workers yesterday.
- 21:36Speaker 9: His nonprofit called Neighborhood Heroes helped deliver dozens of Giordano's
- 21:41Speaker 9: pieces to local hospitals.
- 21:43Speaker 14: And Durk is inspiring these teens to be different by
- 21:46Speaker 14: showing them different. His organization, Neighborhood Heroes, is taking them
- 21:50Speaker 14: on a college tour to Atlanta.
- 21:53Speaker 1: I don't believe in anything, but being able.
- 21:55Speaker 7: To have opportunities like this, it's a big uprise from
- 21:59Speaker 7: what I used to be.
- 22:00Speaker 4: A lot of people out here that don't got nothing
- 22:01Speaker 4: to eat, that's sleeping in cars, sleeping with roaches, there
- 22:05Speaker 4: need to be more of these programs.
- 22:06Speaker 1: If there's not more of these programs, then... It's going
- 22:09Speaker 1: to be, it's going to continue to be more violence
- 22:11Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Like, he touched 20 kids. You
- 22:14Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Imagine doing this for a thousand.
- 22:17Speaker 10: Christmas comes early for a Chicago family struggling to make
- 22:20Speaker 10: ends meet.
- 22:21Speaker 14: WGCI awarding two listeners with Christmas cash.
- 22:24Speaker 13: No more priorities to stop the violence, to slow it
- 22:27Speaker 13: down as much as possible.
- 22:28Speaker 4: And that's only 30% of the video. Time after time,
- 22:32Speaker 4: story after story. of Dirk showing up for Chicago and
- 22:36Speaker 4: they need it. I was just saying they need to
- 22:38Speaker 4: fumigate the whole shit. Like if we had a hydrogen
- 22:40Speaker 4: bomb that could just bomb that whole shit right there
- 22:42Speaker 4: and start over, I would put it right there in Chicago.
- 22:45Speaker 4: But we're showing that the people from there are actually
- 22:49Speaker 4: trying their best to invest in their youth that are
- 22:53Speaker 4: trying to pour back. And Lil Durk was at the
- 22:55Speaker 4: head of them. He had a message in it basically like, yo,
- 22:58Speaker 4: I'm trying to change my life around. And we got
- 23:01Speaker 4: to pour back into the youth You know what I'm saying? So, yo,
- 23:04Speaker 4: shout out to Dirk. I will say this, though. It
- 23:08Speaker 4: should go a little further than that and it should
- 23:09Speaker 4: go a little further than Chicago. Chicago, don't do that.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Y'all know I like coming out there. Don't get all
- 23:14Speaker 4: in your shit talking about y'all niggas talking about Chicago
- 23:16Speaker 4: and pop my head off on the way to go
- 23:17Speaker 4: get a motherfucking drink at fucking Hilton's.
- 23:20Speaker 1: Please don't do that, bro. I don't want no problems.
- 23:22Speaker 1: But what I will say is.
- 23:26Speaker 4: How many of us are actually taking the time to
- 23:28Speaker 4: get back into our community?
- 23:31Speaker 1: Like on some real shit. We talk a lot.
- 23:33Speaker 4: And me personally, I've been thinking over the course of
- 23:35Speaker 4: the last week, two weeks, it is kind of more
- 23:38Speaker 4: responsibility at this time. So Shameless and Hardest Soft will
- 23:43Speaker 4: both be doing scholarships for kids to go to college.
- 23:49Speaker 4: This will be rolling out. I will be talking about
- 23:51Speaker 4: it on our Patreon. But each one of my pods,
- 23:54Speaker 4: all that little Patreon money we're going, every time I
- 23:56Speaker 4: get that, I'm going to put a little to the side.
- 23:58Speaker 4: And towards the end of the year, I'll be releasing it.
- 24:00Speaker 4: I'm going to have to get some type of business
- 24:02Speaker 4: person to help me figure out how this looks and
- 24:04Speaker 4: how to do it.
- 24:05Speaker 1: Maybe Chris can do it. An accountant, maybe? I got you.
- 24:09Speaker 4: But both of my pods are going to... Because, yo,
- 24:13Speaker 4: we just sent my stepdaughter, my daughter, to college. And
- 24:17Speaker 4: the fucking... My baby girl's job... gave $ 2, 000 or $ 5, 000. Nigga,
- 24:22Speaker 4: we needed that. That fucking, that shit is expensive. And
- 24:25Speaker 4: I make a bankroll. I was happy as hell that
- 24:27Speaker 4: she got that. And I'm pretty sure somebody out here
- 24:30Speaker 4: could use two grand. Somebody out here could use a band.
- 24:32Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? To help get their kid
- 24:34Speaker 4: to go to school.
- 24:35Speaker 1: And why not?
- 24:36Speaker 4: If we're taking this money from our community and we're saying,
- 24:39Speaker 4: we're standing by our community.
- 24:41Speaker 1: We're saying, like, let my word be that.
- 24:44Speaker 4: I'm going to give back. And I challenge the rest
- 24:46Speaker 4: of y'all to pause. I'm not saying, I'm not really
- 24:48Speaker 4: standing above y'all because it's my first time doing it.
- 24:50Speaker 4: But yo, let's think. What if all of us did
- 24:52Speaker 4: some shit like that? What if all of us that
- 24:54Speaker 4: are doing events and have all these people coming?
- 24:56Speaker 1: Not y'all.
- 24:56Speaker 7: I'm not new to this shit. I was about to
- 24:58Speaker 7: say it already. I'll say it now. Whatever you want,
- 25:00Speaker 7: I'm going to match it.
- 25:01Speaker 1: I bet. Let's do it. Whatever you want. You know
- 25:02Speaker 1: I'm serious. Let's do it. Whatever you want. Oh, wow.
- 25:05Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 25:05Speaker 2: It's really important to reach back, especially with the kids.
- 25:09Speaker 2: With technology being so readily available to them, they're actually
- 25:13Speaker 2: not dreaming bigger. And we have to give them something
- 25:15Speaker 2: to dream for. So it's like, I'm glad that you
- 25:18Speaker 2: said that because even with the firm, we did the
- 25:19Speaker 2: Grow Grant and gave a scholarship away. And that little
- 25:22Speaker 2: money takes relief off the parents and helps them have
- 25:25Speaker 2: something in their pocket. Because there's so much that you
- 25:27Speaker 2: have to get acclimated going away for the first time
- 25:29Speaker 2: to college. And that should be a major dream for
- 25:33Speaker 2: a lot of people. But some people throw their dream
- 25:34Speaker 2: out when they can't see a way to get there.
- 25:36Speaker 1: Right.
- 25:36Speaker 2: And I think these programs, and like you said, calling
- 25:38Speaker 2: people to action is super important because we just out
- 25:41Speaker 2: here living our lives. But life we live in looks
- 25:45Speaker 2: much different for them. So I commend you on that.
- 25:50Speaker 1: So that's just for me.
- 25:51Speaker 4: If you're part of people's Patreons, maybe they don't even
- 25:53Speaker 4: think about it because I never thought about it.
- 25:55Speaker 1: And I don't know if maybe my money wasn't right
- 25:57Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm not sure.
- 25:58Speaker 4: But maybe there are people out there that you follow,
- 26:01Speaker 4: that you listen to their shows, or that you go
- 26:03Speaker 4: to their events or whatever, and they're just not thinking
- 26:05Speaker 4: about it. And it could be just a little percentage,
- 26:07Speaker 4: 1% of what they're making that could help some kid
- 26:11Speaker 4: out there pay for their dorm or pay for their
- 26:13Speaker 4: books or pay for whatever.
- 26:14Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And it doesn't have to
- 26:16Speaker 1: just be college. It could be fucking back-to-school shit.
- 26:20Speaker 4: Our generation, this generation, is doing better than the generations
- 26:23Speaker 4: before us by far.
- 26:25Speaker 1: Let's show up. Let's show up. I got a question.
- 26:29Speaker 1: What's up? For the room.
- 26:30Speaker 10: And not to take a step backwards from the positivity, right? But, like,
- 26:35Speaker 10: Little Dirk's situation reminded me, like, when you talk about
- 26:37Speaker 10: him giving back to the community, but what if he
- 26:40Speaker 10: was actually doing the murder for hire shit and then
- 26:43Speaker 10: still giving back to the community? Like, it reminds me of, like,
- 26:46Speaker 10: you know, Bumpy Johnson giving away turkeys and shit Thanksgiving,
- 26:49Speaker 10: but then he's selling drugs and killing niggas, right?
- 26:52Speaker 4: So it's like, Killing the nigga that killed my man
- 26:55Speaker 4: is not killing niggas.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Does one negate the other?
- 26:58Speaker 2: I don't think it's about negation. I think, again, two
- 27:00Speaker 2: things can exist at the same time. Because sometimes you
- 27:03Speaker 2: can be a good person that just has to do
- 27:06Speaker 2: certain things because that's now your lifestyle. It's the thing
- 27:08Speaker 2: you signed up for. Listen, I'm not condoning it, but
- 27:12Speaker 2: at least there's a spark of karmic energy there where
- 27:17Speaker 2: it's like, you know what? I might have my time,
- 27:19Speaker 2: but at least I'm going to give while I can.
- 27:21Speaker 2: So I don't think it absolves I just think it's like,
- 27:24Speaker 2: you know what, we're all human to a certain degree.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's true.
- 27:28Speaker 10: And, you know, that's why I threw that there, because
- 27:30Speaker 10: everybody got some shit. I look at it like this, right?
- 27:34Speaker 7: And sometimes we can all sit on these podcasts or
- 27:37Speaker 7: in these conversations and say what's politically correct and all that,
- 27:41Speaker 7: but then sometimes when you just want to keep it real, like, bro,
- 27:45Speaker 7: like Taho keeps saying, bro.
- 27:48Speaker 1: It killed his mans, bro. Yeah. And his brother.
- 27:52Speaker 7: This is not like somebody stepped on his foot out
- 27:55Speaker 7: the club and he got his little man hanging out
- 27:58Speaker 7: the window of the car doing a drive-by. And I
- 28:01Speaker 7: don't really want to stay on this topic so much
- 28:04Speaker 7: because whatever. But it's certain things that the life comes with.
- 28:11Speaker 7: And I guess that's what Shorty was kind of... Not Shorty.
- 28:14Speaker 7: What's her name?
- 28:16Speaker 1: Alexa. That's what Alexa was probably.
- 28:19Speaker 7: a little misunderstanding that it's not so much that you're
- 28:22Speaker 7: still in it, but certain things still follow you wherever
- 28:26Speaker 7: you go. You ever got, you ever did something that
- 28:29Speaker 7: came up in your life or your relationship two years
- 28:32Speaker 7: later and it's like, damn, that was two years ago,
- 28:34Speaker 7: but some things just follow you. You feel what I'm saying?
- 28:37Speaker 1: It's like, I think.
- 28:39Speaker 7: Doing the good can't, shouldn't be looked down on because
- 28:45Speaker 7: of whatever bad you could.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Find on somebody. You know what I'm saying? I don't know.
- 28:49Speaker 7: Get him the grace to fix whatever that is. If
- 28:51Speaker 7: this positivity is what they have to offer and they're
- 28:54Speaker 7: doing it, especially if it's by will. This is not
- 28:56Speaker 7: community service. This is a decision that he made. Yeah.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Listen, everything is yin and yang.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Everything.
- 29:03Speaker 2: In darkness, there's light. In light, there's darkness.
- 29:07Speaker 1: Just is what it is. That's true.
- 29:08Speaker 10: Listen, as long as you're giving back, you know, doing
- 29:11Speaker 10: some part of the yang and the yang. It ain't
- 29:13Speaker 10: all yang.
- 29:14Speaker 5: It ain't all yang.
- 29:16Speaker 1: Not all yang is mad funny.
- 29:20Speaker 4: What do I want to do? What do I want
- 29:21Speaker 4: to do? Keep it hip hop or talk personal shit.
- 29:25Speaker 4: We was talking about college. I'm about to get in
- 29:28Speaker 4: trouble for bringing this up, but I don't care. My
- 29:33Speaker 4: stepdaughter went to college. We have her location on our phones.
- 29:39Speaker 6: Sure.
- 29:40Speaker 4: Right but now every time she goes out she has
- 29:45Speaker 4: to call her mom say I'm going to a party
- 29:47Speaker 4: she call yo let me call.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Call me when you get home who you going with.
- 29:52Speaker 4: No no yesterday am I bugging she brought it to
- 29:56Speaker 4: the discord she made it public she did And I'm
- 29:59Speaker 4: just like, well, we discussed making it public there.
- 30:00Speaker 1: We didn't discuss making it public on the pod.
- 30:02Speaker 4: But a lot of the pushback that people were giving
- 30:07Speaker 4: was like, yo, yes, this is a different age now.
- 30:10Speaker 4: You know, these kids, you know, they're getting snatched. They're
- 30:15Speaker 4: getting kidnapped. You want to know where your kid is at? Like,
- 30:18Speaker 4: look at the Nolan Wells shit that happened, you know,
- 30:20Speaker 4: without him. His mom having the 360 life shit. They
- 30:23Speaker 4: wouldn't even have known where the last time they seen him.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Whatever.
- 30:27Speaker 4: My thing is, She's in college. We know where she's at. Like,
- 30:34Speaker 4: you have her location. Do she need to call?
- 30:37Speaker 7: Like, there's one morning we woke up or I'm at
- 30:40Speaker 7: work and she's like, yeah, she didn't even make it
- 30:41Speaker 7: to class this morning.
- 30:42Speaker 1: I'm like, how you know that? Oh, because she's still
- 30:44Speaker 1: in the dorm.
- 30:45Speaker 7: You know, you're like enlarging it to see the building
- 30:48Speaker 7: she's in on campus.
- 30:49Speaker 5: And I'm like, yo.
- 30:52Speaker 4: She's only been in school for three weeks. So, I mean,
- 30:55Speaker 4: separation anxiety is a thing. But what do y'all think?
- 30:57Speaker 1: Am I bugging? Or is that.
- 30:59Speaker 5: And then, hold on, real quick. She was like, and
- 31:01Speaker 5: you didn't do it.
- 31:02Speaker 1: Because you're a boy.
- 31:04Speaker 4: Boys be out the house at 15, 16, and they
- 31:07Speaker 4: off living their life. Girls, it's a different relationship with
- 31:11Speaker 4: the world.
- 31:11Speaker 1: What do y'all think? I think sharing locations is good enough.
- 31:15Speaker 10: It could stop there. Like, you know, we didn't have
- 31:17Speaker 10: that technology when we was kids. But so use that technology.
- 31:21Speaker 10: It's for safety. But like calling and all of that,
- 31:25Speaker 10: it's like it defeats the purpose of the college experience
- 31:28Speaker 10: of you are now an adult. You're on your own.
- 31:32Speaker 10: You're free to make these decisions. Like at some point,
- 31:34Speaker 10: you got to learn. And sometimes you got to learn
- 31:36Speaker 10: the hard way. Sometimes you got to make mistakes. You
- 31:38Speaker 10: got to make mistakes.
- 31:39Speaker 1: Now, I can understand if you're fumbling the money. You
- 31:42Speaker 1: know what I mean?
- 31:43Speaker 10: Because I still feel bad. I did that with my parents.
- 31:46Speaker 10: I had no concept of. The fact that they paid
- 31:49Speaker 10: for school and I fucked off with it at the time.
- 31:52Speaker 1: I get that. But micromanaging me wouldn't have helped at all.
- 31:55Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 31:56Speaker 10: Like, nah, at some point micromanaging is going to backfire,
- 31:59Speaker 10: in my opinion.
- 32:00Speaker 7: Tahoe, I got two daughters. And I'm going to give
- 32:03Speaker 7: you my personal opinion. This is no judgment to what
- 32:06Speaker 7: anybody else has to say, right? For me, something like,
- 32:10Speaker 7: especially in my daughter's college years, And she's obviously not there,
- 32:16Speaker 7: so I could be speaking. You know what I mean, Mama?
- 32:18Speaker 7: I could come back to you 10 years from now.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Remember when we had that combo?
- 32:22Speaker 7: But as of right now, right, I'm very intentional about, A,
- 32:28Speaker 7: letting my oldest daughter understand that the line of communication
- 32:33Speaker 7: between us is.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Very important to me.
- 32:36Speaker 7: Like, whether or not she behaves in school has less
- 32:40Speaker 7: effect on, you know what I mean, how much I
- 32:44Speaker 7: believe our line of communication is when it comes to
- 32:48Speaker 7: decision making. Like, she wants a phone more than anything
- 32:50Speaker 7: in the world right now, right? And when she misbehaves,
- 32:53Speaker 7: I don't say anything that has to do with the phone,
- 32:56Speaker 7: but when the opportunity for her to communicate with me
- 33:00Speaker 7: was there and she didn't take.
- 33:01Speaker 1: It, I'd be like, this is why you're not getting
- 33:03Speaker 1: no phone. Something like that.
- 33:05Speaker 7: And I just want her to understand that because I
- 33:07Speaker 7: feel like sharing location, for instance, in the college years
- 33:12Speaker 7: is like, either lazy parenting or over parenting like one
- 33:17Speaker 7: of the two wow let me tell you why let
- 33:19Speaker 7: me tell you why though when you you taught any
- 33:24Speaker 7: of your kids how to ride a bike all right
- 33:27Speaker 7: after they get it the goal is to let go
- 33:30Speaker 7: bro the goal is to let go and let them
- 33:32Speaker 7: ride the bike like is it seeing them riding the
- 33:34Speaker 7: bike in the horizon important to you you get what
- 33:37Speaker 7: i'm saying and that's i got i got 18 years
- 33:39Speaker 7: bro so my daughter just turned nine i got You know,
- 33:42Speaker 7: I've done what I did for the first nine years.
- 33:45Speaker 7: I got another nine years, bro, to really give her
- 33:50Speaker 7: the jewels and give her everything. But at some point,
- 33:54Speaker 7: you got to let go. Because I feel like all
- 34:00Speaker 7: the things that you benefit from something like sharing locations,
- 34:06Speaker 7: it's not genuine, bro. You get what I'm saying? All
- 34:08Speaker 7: the benefits you get from that is kind of forced.
- 34:10Speaker 7: It's like, it's not, at what point do you know
- 34:13Speaker 7: what your relationship with your daughter is really like?
- 34:17Speaker 1: At what point? And again, this is not to you. No, no, no,
- 34:20Speaker 1: it's fine. You know what I'm saying? It's fine, it's fine.
- 34:22Speaker 1: It's just me, me, me.
- 34:22Speaker 7: At some point, I'm going to have to, I got
- 34:24Speaker 7: my daughter location right now. Like, There's two things with
- 34:28Speaker 7: this new generation.
- 34:28Speaker 1: You have her location? My daughter right now. How you
- 34:31Speaker 1: have said all of that and you have her location?
- 34:33Speaker 2: She's nine, bro.
- 34:34Speaker 1: I said college here. She's nine. She's nine, bro.
- 34:36Speaker 7: You feel what I'm saying? I got her location right
- 34:38Speaker 7: now because she has service on her tablet.
- 34:40Speaker 1: So what?
- 34:41Speaker 5: Grown women share each other's location with each other.
- 34:43Speaker 3: I know.
- 34:43Speaker 1: Listen, I'm one of them.
- 34:45Speaker 7: I don't check people's locations, but that's a new thing
- 34:48Speaker 7: in this generation. Like having locations is like. a checkbox
- 34:52Speaker 7: on the friendship. Like, are we really friends? You know
- 34:54Speaker 7: what I'm saying? Like, it's like 15 people with my location, bro. Like,
- 34:59Speaker 7: my boy Gene, bro, like, it's scary with him. He
- 35:02Speaker 7: be like, where you at?
- 35:04Speaker 1: And I'll tell him where I'm at. He be like,
- 35:05Speaker 1: I know.
- 35:05Speaker 6: Like, what?
- 35:06Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
- 35:08Speaker 7: Like, that's so crazy. Like, he's the worst one, but
- 35:11Speaker 7: you know what I mean? Like, then you got another, like,
- 35:13Speaker 7: my home girl, Jo, bro, she really, like, I'll lead
- 35:16Speaker 7: a club, and... Tell her I'm going home and she'll
- 35:20Speaker 7: call me.
- 35:20Speaker 1: Now, why are you going?
- 35:22Speaker 7: You said you was going home with her. And I'm like, oh, nah,
- 35:25Speaker 7: because she just want to make sure I'm good. So is,
- 35:29Speaker 7: but with the kids, bro, it's a level of freedom.
- 35:33Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. There's a difference though, right?
- 35:36Speaker 2: There's helicopter parenting, right? Which means I'm hovering over you,
- 35:39Speaker 2: your every move, the zooming in.
- 35:41Speaker 1: The looking.
- 35:42Speaker 2: And then there's a level of safety. We're living in
- 35:44Speaker 2: a completely different time. And I can tell you as
- 35:46Speaker 2: a woman living alone, there's things that I'm scared of
- 35:49Speaker 2: because I live alone. If nobody checks on me, anything
- 35:53Speaker 2: could happen to me in a number of days because
- 35:55Speaker 2: guess what? I don't have somebody coming in and out
- 35:57Speaker 2: of my house checking on me. You know what I'm saying?
- 35:59Speaker 2: So you got to realize there's a lot of different
- 36:01Speaker 2: things going on. And I watch murder TV, guys.
- 36:03Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
- 36:03Speaker 2: So I watch a lot of crime documentaries and stuff.
- 36:05Speaker 2: So location, sharing, one, I think it's a matter of
- 36:10Speaker 2: that relationship you have with your child. Asking to share
- 36:12Speaker 2: it out of nowhere might be like, okay, well, what
- 36:14Speaker 2: are you doing? But if you grew up with it
- 36:16Speaker 2: and it's for safety and you're really just doing it
- 36:18Speaker 2: to make sure that they good, I don't see a
- 36:20Speaker 2: problem with it. Now, here's the thing. My dad will
- 36:23Speaker 2: literally panic if he does not hear from me in
- 36:26Speaker 2: three days or see me posting on social media. Because
- 36:29Speaker 2: he says to me, he's like, I don't care how
- 36:31Speaker 2: old you are. I'm going to be scared to death
- 36:33Speaker 2: if I don't hear from you. My dad lives on
- 36:35Speaker 2: an island. He can't just come and, yo, knock on
- 36:38Speaker 2: your door and see whatever. So I mean, yes, you
- 36:41Speaker 2: shouldn't micromanage them in terms of are they going to class?
- 36:44Speaker 2: Are they not going to class? What are they doing?
- 36:46Speaker 2: I think that's helicopter parenting to a certain extent because
- 36:49Speaker 2: the first thing they literally tell you in college orientation
- 36:51Speaker 2: is nobody's going to remind you to go to class.
- 36:53Speaker 2: Everything is your decision. And let me tell you something.
- 36:57Speaker 2: I took advantage of sleeping in on a couple of
- 36:58Speaker 2: them days. I was like, I don't have to go.
- 37:02Speaker 2: I actually don't have to go. If I get the
- 37:05Speaker 2: notes from somewhere else, if I get the work done,
- 37:10Speaker 2: And nobody cares if I show up, cool. And I
- 37:13Speaker 2: manage that because let me figure out how to win,
- 37:16Speaker 2: how to fail, et cetera. But you're right, you know,
- 37:19Speaker 2: in terms of the relationship and trust, there should be
- 37:21Speaker 2: trust in terms of me saying, hey, I'm here, hey,
- 37:23Speaker 2: I'm there. But let me tell you something, with technology
- 37:25Speaker 2: and deep fake and AI and everything, it's very easy
- 37:29Speaker 2: to go missing. And for someone to pretend like you're fine,
- 37:32Speaker 2: put your location where you might always be at, pretend,
- 37:35Speaker 2: put your voice into something to be acting like it's you,
- 37:37Speaker 2: but keep it short. You know what I'm saying? So
- 37:39Speaker 2: you got to realize that there's certain dangers that women
- 37:41Speaker 2: have to actually be scared of every day of their
- 37:44Speaker 2: life that men will never, ever feel. You know what
- 37:47Speaker 2: I'm saying? So it's not about control of the child.
- 37:50Speaker 2: It's about like, yo, my child's away for the first time.
- 37:53Speaker 2: I can't check on them and make sure they're in
- 37:54Speaker 2: their bedroom. You know what I'm saying? And I do
- 37:56Speaker 2: want to make sure my child isn't drugged, raped, missing,
- 37:58Speaker 2: someone has her phone, etc. So I don't think that's unfair.
- 38:02Speaker 2: But I do think there becomes a certain rhythm between
- 38:05Speaker 2: child and parent. Where it's like, okay, I know for
- 38:08Speaker 2: a fact, I can literally feel my dad vibrating. If
- 38:10Speaker 2: I know, you know, I haven't called him in a
- 38:12Speaker 2: couple of days. Let me call him now before he
- 38:13Speaker 2: starts hunting me down.
- 38:15Speaker 7: I don't want a mic hog, right? And I have
- 38:16Speaker 7: to keep on stressing that. This is just my opinion.
- 38:19Speaker 7: I don't want you to sleep on the couch because
- 38:21Speaker 7: your friend was talking crazy.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Oh, I'm on the couch already. I should have never
- 38:25Speaker 1: brought it up. I should have never brought it up.
- 38:28Speaker 1: It's done.
- 38:29Speaker 7: Maybe part of it for me is I've dealt with
- 38:32Speaker 7: the other side, bro. Like, I went to D.C. to
- 38:34Speaker 7: check a girl one time, bro. And, yo, I went
- 38:39Speaker 7: to D.C. to check a girl one time, and my
- 38:41Speaker 7: mom was calling me, but I just wasn't on it
- 38:45Speaker 7: when my mom was like that in the moment, right? Yo, bro,
- 38:48Speaker 7: shorty picked up the phone. The phone rang. Shorty picked
- 38:51Speaker 7: up the phone. He said, how you doing? This is
- 38:53Speaker 7: Officer such and such and such. Yo, bro, my mom's
- 38:57Speaker 7: calling cops in D.C. How she knew? I got to
- 39:01Speaker 7: call her to remember how this whole thing happened. But, bro,
- 39:04Speaker 7: my mom is broke.
- 39:07Speaker 1: I'm crazy, bro.
- 39:08Speaker 7: My mom, you know how you got a child and
- 39:11Speaker 7: you be like, yo, they're eight going on 18?
- 39:14Speaker 1: Bro, for my mom, I'm 40 going on 12, bro.
- 39:17Speaker 7: Like, she doesn't understand the concept that I'm not that little. Yo,
- 39:21Speaker 7: she called the police, bro. The police in D.C., son. Like,
- 39:27Speaker 7: this is the, that's probably the craziest thing. And they're,
- 39:30Speaker 7: I could go on all day, but I only say
- 39:32Speaker 7: that to say it gets annoying.
- 39:35Speaker 2: Helicopter parenting.
- 39:37Speaker 1: Helicopter parenting.
- 39:37Speaker 7: I get the love. I get the love. I get
- 39:39Speaker 7: the love. You get what I'm saying? I understand the love, but...
- 39:42Speaker 7: The way mothers are with their children.
- 39:45Speaker 1: You had.
- 39:45Speaker 7: A human being grow in your body.
- 39:49Speaker 5: They're different the way they are, especially with their daughters.
- 39:52Speaker 1: We all know that.
- 39:52Speaker 2: And it changes your brain chemistry for sure.
- 39:55Speaker 1: It changes what?
- 39:55Speaker 2: Your brain chemistry for sure. You know, it's a whole thing,
- 39:58Speaker 2: but I mean, I don't have to.
- 40:00Speaker 4: I do feel a little guilty like telling her like, yo,
- 40:03Speaker 4: you got to let her, you know what I mean?
- 40:05Speaker 1: You got to let her go. You got to let
- 40:06Speaker 1: her go. No, you got to meet halfway.
- 40:07Speaker 2: It's not about letting go. It's let her do her,
- 40:10Speaker 2: but you know, check in and have a system. You know,
- 40:13Speaker 2: let her live her life.
- 40:14Speaker 5: It is communication.
- 40:15Speaker 2: I do agree having the location is important because you
- 40:17Speaker 2: never know what could happen. But the checking to see
- 40:20Speaker 2: if she went to class, there might be a little.
- 40:22Speaker 10: For the people saying it's okay to send a text
- 40:24Speaker 10: because a couple people in the chat are saying that. Like,
- 40:27Speaker 10: my question is, I went to college in the 90s, right?
- 40:30Speaker 10: We went to college in the 90s. It wasn't no
- 40:32Speaker 10: sending a text. It wasn't no sharing location. It wasn't
- 40:34Speaker 10: even a phone.
- 40:34Speaker 1: We didn't even know.
- 40:35Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was a different time, though.
- 40:37Speaker 10: We're guys, and like you said, Chris, it's different for women.
- 40:40Speaker 10: But my female friends that went to school in the 90s,
- 40:43Speaker 10: they were fine also.
- 40:44Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up.
- 40:45Speaker 1: So.
- 40:46Speaker 10: Like, what about that? And I can't even skip over
- 40:50Speaker 10: the fact that, you know, when I went to school
- 40:52Speaker 10: in D.C. in the 90s, shit was wild for the night.
- 40:55Speaker 10: That shit actually happened. Like, you remember you came from homecoming,
- 40:57Speaker 10: niggas got stabbed and got in fights. I don't even
- 41:00Speaker 10: think my parents still to this day know about that shit.
- 41:03Speaker 1: Okay.
- 41:04Speaker 10: So, but it's like things are going to be okay.
- 41:08Speaker 10: We don't have to like. overly be involved. Oh, send
- 41:11Speaker 10: me a text when you get home.
- 41:12Speaker 1: Like, what if I don't?
- 41:14Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the text when you get home, if
- 41:15Speaker 2: you're drunk, obviously, you're not going to remember to send
- 41:17Speaker 2: a text. But I will say something about what you
- 41:19Speaker 2: said in the 90s and back then. It is a
- 41:21Speaker 2: different time, y'all. There was a time where I used
- 41:23Speaker 2: to hang out with killers, drug dealers, rappers, strippers all day,
- 41:26Speaker 2: all night, have security with me, having the time of
- 41:28Speaker 2: my fucking life. But let me tell you something. I
- 41:29Speaker 2: was safe. They had security walking me to the bathroom
- 41:32Speaker 2: because killers were gentlemen at the time. You know what
- 41:34Speaker 2: I'm saying? Gangsters cared about the ladies. This ain't got
- 41:37Speaker 2: nothing to do with you. Yes, real gangsters. But we
- 41:40Speaker 2: not dealing with that no more. You can invite a
- 41:42Speaker 2: group of girls out and know you was going to
- 41:44Speaker 2: get home safe and go do whatever. I could have
- 41:48Speaker 2: been missing a few times if it was today. But now,
- 41:50Speaker 2: because even when I invited a couple of girls, I
- 41:52Speaker 2: was going to a strip club. I was like, yo,
- 41:53Speaker 2: come on with us. Them girls was hesitating. And my
- 41:56Speaker 2: boy was like, yo, why did you act? I was like, yo,
- 41:58Speaker 2: not for nothing. We could drug them. We could traffic them.
- 42:01Speaker 2: We could put them in a van. There's so many
- 42:03Speaker 2: things that can happen to them. So again, it's not about, yeah,
- 42:07Speaker 2: they'll be all right. There was a different code to
- 42:10Speaker 2: life when we was growing up. I felt safe running
- 42:14Speaker 2: around with the killers, the drug dealers, the strippers, the
- 42:16Speaker 2: whores and everything. I don't feel that now because the girls,
- 42:20Speaker 2: the prostitutes now are actually helping you getting you sold.
- 42:24Speaker 2: So again, I understand what you guys are coming from,
- 42:27Speaker 2: but it would be, It would be remiss of us
- 42:31Speaker 2: to really just sit here and act like times aren't changing.
- 42:34Speaker 2: Just like technology changed, we ain't sitting here saying, I
- 42:36Speaker 2: ain't going to use that tablet because when I was
- 42:38Speaker 2: growing up, we used an encyclopedia. Nah, you're going to
- 42:40Speaker 2: learn how to use that fucking tablet. So learn that
- 42:43Speaker 2: life is different and just adjust accordingly. Don't helicopter them,
- 42:47Speaker 2: but adjust accordingly and it's okay.
- 42:49Speaker 1: All right, fair enough.
- 42:52Speaker 2: I'm scared of being kidnapped still to this day.
- 42:54Speaker 1: I did....
- 42:59Speaker 4: Cole messed up Toyota too, though. But I was just
- 43:03Speaker 4: more like, yo, whenever you need me, I'm not going
- 43:06Speaker 4: to give a fuck what it is. I'm not even
- 43:08Speaker 4: going to ask.
- 43:09Speaker 1: Just hit me.
- 43:10Speaker 4: And I'll either be there or I'll get you safe.
- 43:14Speaker 4: That's just the best thing. I don't want to hover
- 43:15Speaker 4: over you, nothing. But whatever you need, just hit me.
- 43:19Speaker 1: Don't be scared. You ain't going to get judged. Just
- 43:22Speaker 1: hit and let's get to it. You know what I'm saying?
- 43:25Speaker 1: And I think that that's also important.
- 43:27Speaker 4: I think that probably might work more.
- 43:31Speaker 1: Than what I'm about to get in trouble for.
- 43:36Speaker 5: Hey, man.
- 43:38Speaker 1: Jezebel. Y'all heard this one?
- 43:41Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 43:41Speaker 1: Yo, man. Yo, Pat. Yo, man.
- 43:44Speaker 2: Did he sign the divorce papers, though?
- 43:46Speaker 1: You didn't hit Jezebel?
- 43:48Speaker 2: Yo, how you that?
- 43:49Speaker 1: You're the DJ.
- 43:50Speaker 2: He's been unplugged. He's been enjoying himself.
- 43:52Speaker 1: Yo, for the last.
- 43:53Speaker 10: Papoose is not a requested artist in the places I'm
- 43:57Speaker 10: spending that nowadays.
- 43:58Speaker 1: You know what? No disrespect. I respect that because it's
- 44:01Speaker 1: an internet song. It's an internet song.
- 44:03Speaker 5: It's an internet song.
- 44:05Speaker 4: What do y'all think about this Pat and Remy thing?
- 44:08Speaker 1: He's like, yo, you cheated.
- 44:10Speaker 5: I'm sending you money.
- 44:11Speaker 1: You're out here disrespecting me with this fuck-ass nigga.
- 44:15Speaker 2: Did he sign a divorce papers?
- 44:16Speaker 1: Did he call him a fake Papoose? He called him
- 44:19Speaker 1: a fake Papoose, yeah. That's tough.
- 44:22Speaker 4: I saw a clip on the internet. Preem, you got
- 44:24Speaker 4: anything to say about this or are you just letting
- 44:26Speaker 4: it go? I don't want to mic call and pause,
- 44:29Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying?
- 44:29Speaker 7: But just real quick, I hate the fact that I
- 44:34Speaker 7: like the lyrics because I don't really like the act.
- 44:37Speaker 7: Sometimes you got to be a man about shit. You
- 44:39Speaker 7: know what I'm saying? Making a rap song to your ex-girlfriend.
- 44:43Speaker 1: Or your ex-wife. It's not. It's fire. It was fire.
- 44:48Speaker 1: It was fire. And if the things you were saying
- 44:50Speaker 1: is true... I could.
- 44:51Speaker 7: Understand why he's hurt, but you still got to be
- 44:55Speaker 7: a man.
- 44:55Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying?
- 44:57Speaker 4: It's like posting that you're single on IG.
- 45:00Speaker 7: You don't share your grievances with the world sometimes. You
- 45:03Speaker 7: got to be a man about it. Silence is so loud.
- 45:08Speaker 7: When people understand that, to its core, I think silence
- 45:13Speaker 7: is so loud.
- 45:15Speaker 1: So loud.
- 45:16Speaker 4: It's not as loud as the social media, though. Because
- 45:19Speaker 4: the ladies always tell their story.
- 45:21Speaker 1: Look at Jhené. Right now, Jhené dropped her album.
- 45:24Speaker 5: We love her for it.
- 45:25Speaker 4: And everybody saying that she talk about Big Sean.
- 45:29Speaker 1: He's just quiet.
- 45:30Speaker 2: I'm just going to talk about Big Sean.
- 45:31Speaker 1: He's going to be a man.
- 45:32Speaker 2: But also, Big Sean wrote a song.
- 45:34Speaker 1: I don't fuck with you.
- 45:36Speaker 2: He wasn't quiet with the other girl.
- 45:38Speaker 1: Ariana Grande, right?
- 45:39Speaker 2: I think it was Naya.
- 45:40Speaker 1: I don't fuck with you. Who was that, right? That
- 45:42Speaker 1: was the girl from Glee.
- 45:43Speaker 2: From Glee, Naya Rivera.
- 45:44Speaker 1: At least it wasn't. A detailed tell-all record. That worked.
- 45:50Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That worked.
- 45:51Speaker 2: You can tell he released that out of pressure.
- 45:56Speaker 1: Jezebel.
- 45:57Speaker 7: You're calling that girl a Jezebel.
- 46:01Speaker 1: And it's fire. That's what I heard. It's fire. But
- 46:04Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, dogs. Come on, man.
- 46:06Speaker 2: I mean, I think he felt pressured to release it
- 46:09Speaker 2: for whatever reason. Pressure from his girl, from social media,
- 46:12Speaker 2: from whatever. And the thing about it is it's not
- 46:14Speaker 2: right to say, oh, well, she was talking about them.
- 46:17Speaker 2: Homegirl been going off, doing her whole story, talking about them.
- 46:22Speaker 2: And it's just like now you poke the fucking beast.
- 46:25Speaker 2: Y'all mad that she talking and now you want to
- 46:27Speaker 2: act like, oh, I'm only responding because she talking about me.
- 46:30Speaker 2: But I find it. A little strange, you know, that
- 46:33Speaker 2: he's doing this song, but you're not saying anything about
- 46:35Speaker 2: your new love, your new girl. You writing a whole
- 46:38Speaker 2: diss track towards your current wife because you won't sign
- 46:41Speaker 2: the divorce papers. The court was that morning.
- 46:45Speaker 1: Well, you think he won releasing that song?
- 46:47Speaker 2: It's not about winning. They both look crazy right now. No,
- 46:51Speaker 2: hell no.
- 46:52Speaker 1: Did you read the comments under that post? They was
- 46:55Speaker 1: wilding him up. They was wilding him up.
- 46:58Speaker 7: Yo, bro, they said Clarissa paid for the outfit and
- 47:01Speaker 7: the beat, bro.
- 47:03Speaker 1: Yo, nah. Bro, they was wilding him in the comments, bro. Bro,
- 47:07Speaker 1: go look at the comments. I like Pac, bro.
- 47:08Speaker 5: I'm a Pac fan, bro.
- 47:12Speaker 1: Bro, go look at the comments. Just tell me the
- 47:14Speaker 1: first five comments you see. Yo, paying for the beat
- 47:17Speaker 1: is crazy.
- 47:18Speaker 7: She paid for the outfit and the beat. Tell me
- 47:20Speaker 7: the first five comments you see, please. Just the first five.
- 47:23Speaker 1: Yo, now she got the license. Hold on, hold on,
- 47:25Speaker 1: hold on. I see instant classic. First one. It's hard
- 47:30Speaker 1: to return a quality diss record against your own writer.
- 47:32Speaker 6: Okay.
- 47:32Speaker 1: Okay. Hold on, I don't see nothing. Oh, that's two. Wow,
- 47:35Speaker 1: that's two in his favor. All right. All of the
- 47:38Speaker 1: comments that I'm seeing are top. Because you know what happens.
- 47:41Speaker 1: They push the negative shit down. So I'm scared to scroll.
- 47:44Speaker 1: It gets crazy.
- 47:45Speaker 2: I'll show you what I've seen, bro.
- 47:49Speaker 1: It gets crazy. Yeah, look, look, look. Yeah, all of
- 47:51Speaker 1: the positive shit is at top, bro. Okay, that's good.
- 47:54Speaker 1: No animal runs faster than the cheetah. I said the
- 48:00Speaker 1: record was good, though. I said it was good. I
- 48:01Speaker 1: just wouldn't have did that. Never.
- 48:03Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day.
- 48:04Speaker 7: In a million years, am I releasing a.
- 48:06Speaker 1: Why?
- 48:06Speaker 4: What's the basis of it? When you say being a man,
- 48:09Speaker 4: what is that in this? That's what I want to know.
- 48:14Speaker 1: What is it about being a man that says you
- 48:16Speaker 1: can't express yourself? You can't tell your side of the story?
- 48:19Speaker 7: Not to that degree, bro. Not to that degree. That's...
- 48:22Speaker 7: The chit-chatting is, you know, women things, bro. That's the
- 48:25Speaker 7: bickering and the, you know, the tell-all vibe and telling
- 48:31Speaker 7: your side, all of that.
- 48:33Speaker 1: That's girl stuff, bro. For argument's sake, right? They're both
- 48:36Speaker 1: public figures.
- 48:36Speaker 10: They both can spit.
- 48:38Speaker 1: Her side is out. He want to get his side out.
- 48:41Speaker 1: You know.
- 48:41Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think she called him anything that's,
- 48:45Speaker 7: you know, degrades him as a man.
- 48:48Speaker 2: She told him to come pick up his clothes.
- 48:49Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. As a regular. He got hats over there.
- 48:51Speaker 1: That's something he can't stay silent to?
- 48:53Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah.
- 48:54Speaker 1: What if she started getting for real disrespectful?
- 48:56Speaker 2: I just feel like everybody is different.
- 48:58Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like me, I'm not.
- 49:00Speaker 2: Everybody's different, right? And people express themselves in different ways.
- 49:04Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't do it. You're right. He's exposing
- 49:06Speaker 2: the side of him. It's the wrong time. It's not
- 49:08Speaker 2: like you did it when it happened and it was wrong.
- 49:10Speaker 2: It's years later. You're in a relationship. You got homegirls
- 49:13Speaker 2: name tatted on you. Like, all right, let it go. But,
- 49:16Speaker 2: you know, let's be real. We're in a time where
- 49:18Speaker 2: everything is documented. people want to tell their sides of
- 49:21Speaker 2: the story you know what I'm saying that's where the
- 49:22Speaker 2: money is at and Listen, maybe this is a money
- 49:25Speaker 2: get up. We talking about it. It's being played.
- 49:27Speaker 1: It is whack. It is. That's clock chasing.
- 49:30Speaker 4: It's nothing that you can do as a man right now.
- 49:33Speaker 4: Social media is run by women, bro. What are you
- 49:36Speaker 4: going to say that's going to change all these women
- 49:39Speaker 4: back into your... All they're going to do is make
- 49:41Speaker 4: fun of you for doing that. They will forever move
- 49:44Speaker 4: the goalposts. Look at Klay Thompson.
- 49:46Speaker 1: What's his name? Klay Thompson. Just be quiet, bro. There's
- 49:49Speaker 1: nothing you could do. Just go get on your boat.
- 49:52Speaker 1: That's it, Megan. With six other bitches.
- 49:55Speaker 7: Speaking of her, and kind of to what you were saying,
- 49:57Speaker 7: the same, you know, Lock Tory fists are also saying
- 50:03Speaker 7: Free Dirk.
- 50:04Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm confused. You know what I'm saying?
- 50:08Speaker 7: You know it was pumping fists to Lock Tory up
- 50:10Speaker 7: for whatever, but it's like Free Dirk.
- 50:14Speaker 4: There's a post I have here. Let's see what's happening.
- 50:17Speaker 4: I think they're talking about the nature of... Remy and
- 50:20Speaker 4: Pap's relationship I just saw the caption I never listened
- 50:24Speaker 4: to it so if it's bullshit don't blame me.
- 50:27Speaker 12: Y'all ain't gonna like this, but when y'all talk about
- 50:30Speaker 12: Papoose and Remy Ma, I be quiet. Because I think
- 50:32Speaker 12: we are so collectively starved of seeing black men hold
- 50:36Speaker 12: black women down that we can't spot a manipulator when
- 50:39Speaker 12: we see one. That's why so many people fell for
- 50:41Speaker 12: the Yada and the Aja situation, because we just really
- 50:44Speaker 12: want black men to be who they say they are
- 50:46Speaker 12: at the root. But when Remy got on the internet
- 50:48Speaker 12: and said she went to jail rich and came home poor.
- 50:51Speaker 8: Nobody said anything.
- 50:53Speaker 12: When Remy got on the internet and said that they
- 50:55Speaker 12: got married the day she got sentenced to nine years
- 50:58Speaker 12: and she signed over power of attorney of all of
- 51:00Speaker 12: her financials to him. Oh, it's really a pimp and
- 51:08Speaker 12: hoe dynamic, but it doesn't look, it doesn't look lethal.
- 51:11Speaker 12: It looks like baby, the moon rises and shine over you.
- 51:15Speaker 12: It looks like baby, you sick. I'll take care of you.
- 51:19Speaker 12: It looks like, girl, I'll do anything for you. But
- 51:23Speaker 12: they have access to your money. And then we see
- 51:26Speaker 12: him with Clarissa, who I actually like, but she is
- 51:30Speaker 12: a decade and some change younger than him.
- 51:32Speaker 2: She's young and impressionable.
- 51:34Speaker 12: And then there's also the dynamic of her, you know,
- 51:38Speaker 12: how she looks. I think she's beautiful, but she's probably
- 51:41Speaker 12: happy to be very chosen by someone of his status
- 51:44Speaker 12: because he's a legend where he's from.
- 51:49Speaker 2: She said a lot of nothing.
- 51:51Speaker 5: Yo, what the fuck was that?
- 51:52Speaker 2: She said a lot of nothing. I don't know what
- 51:54Speaker 2: that was.
- 51:55Speaker 5: What the fuck was that?
- 51:55Speaker 1: How many years Remy was in jail?
- 51:57Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 51:59Speaker 1: Eight? Seven? Eight. Which one was she? Seven summers or
- 52:02Speaker 1: six winters or something?
- 52:04Speaker 4: I don't know, man, about rich and poor and all that,
- 52:07Speaker 4: but Pap don't... Come on, bro.
- 52:09Speaker 1: Let's just keep it real, yo. Pap ain't that type
- 52:11Speaker 1: of nigga. You can tell. You can just tell. Stand-up
- 52:13Speaker 1: type of nigga, bro.
- 52:14Speaker 2: I don't think it's about stealing. I think it's like
- 52:17Speaker 2: if you're talking about the money situation, it's about like
- 52:20Speaker 2: If I'm leaving you money, it would be helpful if
- 52:22Speaker 2: you could help it grow. How is it less? And
- 52:24Speaker 2: I think it's like when a gangster goes to jail.
- 52:27Speaker 2: It's like with K.R., right?
- 52:29Speaker 1: And Gucci Mane.
- 52:29Speaker 2: He left her that money and he came back to
- 52:31Speaker 2: more of it. And I think that's the dynamic, not
- 52:34Speaker 2: the he stole from me. Because obviously he had to live.
- 52:37Speaker 2: He had to eat. He had to do what he
- 52:38Speaker 2: had to do. Bills had to be paid. Estates had
- 52:39Speaker 2: to be paid. But no money was being made.
- 52:43Speaker 1: Yeah. And a boatload of hats to buy. More hats? Yeah,
- 52:47Speaker 1: they bought more hats. More hats?
- 52:48Speaker 4: I'm proud for that. Keep it hip-hop, stay hip-hop. Macklemore,
- 52:55Speaker 4: Free Palestine.
- 52:56Speaker 1: Can you say that online? Who said it?
- 52:57Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about what he actually said. Did
- 52:59Speaker 2: y'all actually see the whole context of what he said?
- 53:01Speaker 1: What exactly are we talking about first?
- 53:04Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about Macklemore, right?
- 53:06Speaker 1: Right, and what happened to him?
- 53:07Speaker 2: So he got removed from the Ed Sheeran tour.
- 53:10Speaker 1: Okay.
- 53:11Speaker 2: Then that's because promoters were upset because he said Free Palestine.
- 53:15Speaker 1: Well, Robert Kraft. Yes. So. And pink.
- 53:18Speaker 6: Yes.
- 53:18Speaker 2: So they made a big deal about it and called
- 53:20Speaker 2: him anti-Semitic. And, you know, anytime you.
- 53:22Speaker 1: Robert Kraft said it as well.
- 53:24Speaker 2: Yeah, he's calling him anti-Semitic.
- 53:25Speaker 4: And then he called all the stadiums that they was
- 53:27Speaker 4: going to and they all said that he can't come
- 53:29Speaker 4: to perform.
- 53:32Speaker 2: And made the promoters take him off. Now, here's the thing, right?
- 53:36Speaker 2: anytime someone says free Palestine, everyone gets all up in
- 53:39Speaker 2: a bunch and upset, you know, and everybody wants to
- 53:42Speaker 2: make it a war when we're really just talking about
- 53:44Speaker 2: the genocide of the people and children being murdered. And
- 53:48Speaker 2: we can all agree that we don't want to see
- 53:49Speaker 2: children murdered.
- 53:49Speaker 10: Right.
- 53:50Speaker 2: But let's actually talk about what he said.
- 53:52Speaker 9: Right.
- 53:52Speaker 2: He basically said, Hey guys, I know, you know, I
- 53:56Speaker 2: just want to say this real quick. I have an
- 53:57Speaker 2: 11 year old daughter. She's here in the crowd right now.
- 53:59Speaker 2: I love her more than anything in this world. And
- 54:02Speaker 2: I would hate for her to wake up in no
- 54:04Speaker 2: fear and no violence and know what it feels like
- 54:07Speaker 2: to be unsafe. And we shouldn't want any of our
- 54:09Speaker 2: kids to feel like that. You know, and he goes
- 54:11Speaker 2: on and on with that sentiment, talking about one love,
- 54:13Speaker 2: one people. We shouldn't want to see the youth suffer
- 54:17Speaker 2: in any country. And then he went on to say,
- 54:19Speaker 2: free Palestine, free Iran, free the Congo, free so on
- 54:23Speaker 2: and so forth. It wasn't a whole, the Jews, this
- 54:27Speaker 2: and all these other things. He literally was just saying
- 54:29Speaker 2: a sentiment of freedom. is this something we can sit
- 54:32Speaker 2: here and condone? And the reality of it is, exactly.
- 54:36Speaker 2: And when you listen to it its entirety, it's like
- 54:38Speaker 2: taking a sound bite. Soon as you say, he said
- 54:41Speaker 2: free Palestine, nobody wants to know what he said. They
- 54:44Speaker 2: just want to say, oh, well, you must be against
- 54:45Speaker 2: us because we already know who controls our media, controls
- 54:49Speaker 2: the news, the music, how people get famous, who gets paid,
- 54:53Speaker 2: et cetera. So the reality of it is, They don't
- 54:56Speaker 2: want us to use our platforms to speak on important topics.
- 55:00Speaker 2: I'm still shadow banned from speaking on important topics. The
- 55:02Speaker 2: reality of it is they don't want to see an
- 55:05Speaker 2: uprising of people because there are so many things happening
- 55:07Speaker 2: right in front of our face. You know, it's no
- 55:10Speaker 2: longer blind ignorance. It's shut up and sit down. So
- 55:14Speaker 2: the fact that he even said that what's really dope
- 55:16Speaker 2: is that people actually for the first time, I'm actually
- 55:18Speaker 2: proud that are people who followed behind him on a tour.
- 55:21Speaker 2: Every single person who was a headliner for that tour
- 55:23Speaker 2: also remove themselves from the tour. The band removes themselves
- 55:26Speaker 2: from the tour because the reality of it is, again,
- 55:30Speaker 2: we can have our sides to things and you want
- 55:32Speaker 2: to talk about the politics and everything, but we can
- 55:34Speaker 2: all agree that a ceasefire is a ceasefire and we're
- 55:37Speaker 2: killing children. And if we can't speak on how uncomfortable
- 55:40Speaker 2: that is, that means we're also complicit. And I think
- 55:43Speaker 2: that's what's going over everybody's head.
- 55:44Speaker 9: I'm done.
- 55:47Speaker 1: No, excellent shit. That was a good point.
- 55:48Speaker 7: Can I ask you a follow-up question then? Do you
- 55:52Speaker 7: think it's fair to Ed Sheeran?
- 55:55Speaker 2: It's not about being fair to Ed Sheeran because he
- 55:59Speaker 2: also made a statement after everybody started quitting and he
- 56:01Speaker 2: said some good things. But I think a lot of
- 56:04Speaker 2: people do want to keep a certain status and keep
- 56:08Speaker 2: themselves open to certain money and don't like to choose
- 56:12Speaker 2: one side or the other. And he definitely straddled the fence.
- 56:14Speaker 2: His statement was very much along the lines of, You know,
- 56:17Speaker 2: I don't speak about what I, you know, my politics publicly.
- 56:20Speaker 2: I respect everybody for doing what they had to do.
- 56:22Speaker 2: I tried my best to get everybody to do whatever,
- 56:24Speaker 2: you know, but at the end of the day, we
- 56:26Speaker 2: need to see more of this because we care more
- 56:28Speaker 2: about capitalism than we care about people. So is it fair?
- 56:31Speaker 1: No.
- 56:32Speaker 2: But is it fair that we are being silenced every
- 56:34Speaker 2: time we talk about something humanitarian?
- 56:36Speaker 7: Yeah, I just think it's a time and a place.
- 56:38Speaker 7: And again, this is probably before the camera turned on,
- 56:41Speaker 7: I told you, I don't want to call myself an antagonist,
- 56:45Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying? But sometimes I like to
- 56:47Speaker 7: Play devil's advocate.
- 56:48Speaker 1: Okay.
- 56:48Speaker 7: When I seen this whole fallout, you know, I didn't
- 56:53Speaker 7: think it was fair to Ed Sheeran. I don't think
- 56:55Speaker 7: there was a time and a place. I think there's
- 56:56Speaker 7: a time and a place and I don't, I don't
- 56:58Speaker 7: necessarily feel like that.
- 56:59Speaker 1: When is the, when is.
- 57:00Speaker 5: The time or the place? Especially a person like Macklemore
- 57:05Speaker 5: who isn't even really like.
- 57:07Speaker 1: But, but, but, but for that exact same reason, it's like, I.
- 57:12Speaker 2: Want to add something that he left out. Cause I,
- 57:14Speaker 2: I don't know if this will change. I'm not, I'm
- 57:15Speaker 2: not mad at change of your mind, but, But you
- 57:17Speaker 2: have to realize that a lot of the people that
- 57:19Speaker 2: were headlining that tour of Irish descent, okay? And the
- 57:22Speaker 2: Irish very much remember their history in terms of colonization,
- 57:26Speaker 2: in terms of them being brutally murdered, and the fact
- 57:29Speaker 2: that other races were trying to take them off the
- 57:33Speaker 2: planet as well. So you have to understand that some people,
- 57:36Speaker 2: certain things resonate with their history. Why did the Holocaust happen?
- 57:39Speaker 2: Why did slavery happen? Just because it was legal didn't
- 57:42Speaker 2: make it right. And these things happen because nobody wants
- 57:45Speaker 2: to speak up because you're right. We all have the
- 57:47Speaker 2: niceties and we have to politic, right? You're right. There
- 57:51Speaker 2: is a time and place, but when is the time
- 57:52Speaker 2: or the place? That is the biggest stage. Everybody's talking
- 57:55Speaker 2: about it now. You're right.
- 57:57Speaker 1: It's business. You can set your own stage. You can
- 57:58Speaker 1: set your own stage if that's what you want to do.
- 58:00Speaker 7: Macklemore still, whether or not his platform is just as big,
- 58:03Speaker 7: perfect example, perfect example. It might not parallel perfectly, but
- 58:07Speaker 7: I have a podcast much, much smaller than yours. I
- 58:11Speaker 7: just started it. I do it, I don't want to
- 58:13Speaker 7: say for fun. I enjoy potting. But, you know, I'm
- 58:16Speaker 7: not consistent with it, right?
- 58:17Speaker 1: It's a great show.
- 58:18Speaker 7: I'm not consistent with it, though, right? For me to
- 58:20Speaker 7: come here and drop some crazy, controversial... Say it.
- 58:27Speaker 1: Say it. No, I don't know what it is. I
- 58:29Speaker 1: can't wait.
- 58:30Speaker 6: I love it.
- 58:31Speaker 1: I'm just saying, maybe now wouldn't have been... You know
- 58:33Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
- 58:33Speaker 7: That's all I'm saying. Again, you might welcome it. Or
- 58:36Speaker 7: podcast culture might welcome it. But in that situation, I'm
- 58:40Speaker 7: just saying, it might be a little... I think every point,
- 58:43Speaker 7: I want to be very fair before I say that.
- 58:46Speaker 7: I think every point you made was beautifully said and
- 58:48Speaker 7: this is not me um like you know trying to
- 58:52Speaker 7: uh look for an excuse to to say but you
- 58:55Speaker 7: know I think everything you said was said beautifully right
- 58:57Speaker 7: but taking all that into consideration putting a period on
- 59:00Speaker 7: that right and just looking at it from a different
- 59:03Speaker 7: angle now was that the right time yes yeah yes yes.
- 59:08Speaker 10: So as an artist express expression as it relates to
- 59:12Speaker 10: politics and worldviews is very important in fact we need
- 59:15Speaker 10: more of that like so it's not like he came
- 59:18Speaker 10: on Ed Sheeran's tour and said some wild shit he
- 59:22Speaker 10: said something to Chris's point that we could all get
- 59:25Speaker 10: behind like let's stand.
- 59:27Speaker 1: Up for our children let's.
- 59:28Speaker 2: Stand up for it wasn't controversial people turned it into
- 59:31Speaker 2: something controversial to prove a point and I want to
- 59:35Speaker 2: actually play what he said because if you heard it
- 59:37Speaker 2: that was not it's like saying okay I didn't hear.
- 59:39Speaker 7: It to an extent because you said certain things that
- 59:42Speaker 7: I honestly did not.
- 59:43Speaker 2: Hear but that's what I'm saying and this is clickbait
- 59:45Speaker 2: it's like when we sit here and we take something
- 59:47Speaker 2: I remember you posted something from our last podcast it
- 59:50Speaker 2: was just the most controversial thing I said but I
- 59:52Speaker 2: said more why is everybody cursing me out damn it
- 59:56Speaker 2: I had to turn off my phone, you know, but
- 59:59Speaker 2: you know, the thing is they do that for controversy.
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: They do that to manipulate the masses because you know what?
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: People aren't reading. People aren't going deeper. They're not looking
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: for the whole truth. They want something to react to
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: because when you get the people angry, you can control
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: them because in anger, you don't think you move blindly.
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: So again, was it the time and place? Absolutely. Cause
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: he didn't say anything except what Marvin Gaye would have said,
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: which is one love.
- 1:00:19Speaker 7: I mean, I think I do disagree.
- 1:00:23Speaker 10: Eshwin deserves what he's getting because he's on the wrong
- 1:00:27Speaker 10: side of history.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: On what? Because this is what happened. It's his tour.
- 1:00:33Speaker 10: Macklemore got called out. They asked for him to be
- 1:00:36Speaker 10: off the tour. He was like, deuces, Macklemore.
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: Don't let the door hit you.
- 1:00:44Speaker 10: He could have reacted in a different way. And guess what?
- 1:00:47Speaker 10: Ed Sheeran's band left him standing alone. Everybody else in
- 1:00:50Speaker 10: the tour left him standing alone. He's clearly the one
- 1:00:52Speaker 10: person that made the wrong decision. And he was the
- 1:00:54Speaker 10: person with the most power to make the right decision.
- 1:00:57Speaker 10: And he doesn't need the bread. They could have stood
- 1:01:01Speaker 10: in solidarity with Macklemore. But instead, he was like, nah,
- 1:01:04Speaker 10: I'm going to get this money. And He deserves all
- 1:01:08Speaker 10: of the criticism.
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: Because he's also of Irish descent. And the things that
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: they're standing for and saying, I understand what you're saying,
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: and I'm not taking away from what you're saying either,
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: because it's not about a rebuttal. It's about open conversation.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is.
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: I'm not that guy, I promise you.
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: No, I don't feel like you are, but let's be fair.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: The reality of it is, if you don't stand for anything,
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: you'll fall for everything. So it does come in time
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: and place. And like I said, he didn't sit up
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: there and say, free Palestine. What they're doing is wrong.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: They shouldn't be bombing the kids. That's controversial. He basically said,
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: don't you want the same life for other children that
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: you want for your children's life?
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: I also think there's a thing here when we talk
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: about white men and what side they align with and
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: who they are today, knowing what they know today, with
- 1:01:54Speaker 4: the state of the social world today, using your privilege
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: to protect innocent kids or using your privilege to protect insurance. Like,
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: why do I need, this is about me and how
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: I feel. And also I'm making a bank roll off
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: of this. I think it was a million dollars that
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: he just gave up. He did something with a million, whatever, whatever.
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: But he's like, yo. I'm going to put myself behind,
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: in front of the people that's getting hurt. Mm-hmm.
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: I'm not thinking about this fucking, that's worth half a
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: billion dollars. I'm not even thinking about that.
- 1:02:25Speaker 7: I'm not even, I wouldn't even think that he was
- 1:02:28Speaker 7: thinking that Robert Kraft would climb down, just because he
- 1:02:31Speaker 7: owns a stadium, would climb all the way down to
- 1:02:34Speaker 7: protect the interest of the 1% and the fucking people
- 1:02:37Speaker 7: that align with over there.
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. To come tell me I couldn't say these two words.
- 1:02:44Speaker 7: I miss me talking about everything going on around the world.
- 1:02:47Speaker 7: Ed Sheeran, I would think that he would think, yo,
- 1:02:50Speaker 7: he would support this message. Being that he doesn't even
- 1:02:53Speaker 7: speak on it, but I.
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: Know his heart. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:02:55Speaker 6: Right?
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: Because he owned up there.
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: It's my friend.
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: I know his heart and he's in a bad position.
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: But he don't speak on this, so I'm going to
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: be the one to do it.
- 1:03:03Speaker 7: I want to be very clear about my position on
- 1:03:05Speaker 7: this whole thing. This is not... My defense of... Yo,
- 1:03:09Speaker 7: stop doing that.
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: No, it's not.
- 1:03:11Speaker 6: No, no, no.
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: Stop doing that. I'm not defending what... Stop. You come
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: and say it and you.
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: No, no, no.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: That's exactly what I want to say.
- 1:03:16Speaker 7: No, that's exactly what I want to say. I still
- 1:03:19Speaker 7: feel how I feel, but it's still a lateral conversation.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: It's not.
- 1:03:23Speaker 7: The main conversation is still the main conversation. I agree
- 1:03:25Speaker 7: with every word Macklemore says.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: I agree with it.
- 1:03:29Speaker 7: I have it.
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: Do y'all want to hear it?
- 1:03:30Speaker 7: I just personally feel like it shouldn't have been then.
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: That's just... I will stand there. Do you want to
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: hear it? I want to play it.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: I want to play it because let's like actually hear
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: the words.
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: All right. I mean, all right. Okay.
- 1:03:45Speaker 7: One of the reasons why I wanted to come on
- 1:03:47Speaker 7: this tour was because.
- 1:03:49Speaker 6: I wanted to stand up here on stages and stadiums
- 1:03:54Speaker 6: across America and say two words that are very near.
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: And dear to my heart. Free Palestine.
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: That's the second time I heard it. He did say that.
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: I said free Palestine.
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: This is the more aggressive one, so my bad. But
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: there's another one out. This one is a little bit
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: more wild.
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: I want those words to be loud and clear so
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: the people from Gaza all the way to the occupied
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: West Bank know that we have not forgotten them. And
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: this next song was inspired by the bravery of Columbia
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: University students who led an encampment movement that mobilized the
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: entire world, opened up hearts, myself included. So thank you
- 1:04:45Speaker 3: to those students that risked their diplomas, that risked their tuition,
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: that risked their scholarships, that stood up and said no.
- 1:04:52Speaker 6: CUAD students, students for justice in Palestine, and Jewish voices
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: for peace.
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. Thank you, Lord. I'm kind of aligning
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: with Preem.
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: No, this one is a little bit more aggressive. I
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: definitely should have played the other one.
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: I'm not mad.
- 1:05:05Speaker 7: I'm not mad at him for doing it. But you
- 1:05:08Speaker 7: had to know that you was going mad hard.
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: I don't think he cared.
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: I don't think he cared.
- 1:05:13Speaker 7: Certain words are heavier than the words are when they
- 1:05:18Speaker 7: stand alone.
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: I agree.
- 1:05:19Speaker 7: It's like what Black Lives Matter meant when you said
- 1:05:23Speaker 7: it together. Back in the pandemic. You get what I'm saying?
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: Those were some of the three.
- 1:05:29Speaker 7: That was one of the strongest phrases you could have
- 1:05:31Speaker 7: used then because it meant something. Free Palestine means something.
- 1:05:35Speaker 7: And it doesn't... It does. I'm not trying to say
- 1:05:38Speaker 7: it's positive or negative or what... All I'm saying is
- 1:05:41Speaker 7: you understand... Dealing with the fallout, knowing that there will.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: Be- I don't think he cared that there was a fallout.
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: And I think we're misunderstanding the message versus the fallout. Yes,
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: none of them needed money. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: So that decision was based on their privilege. Because a
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: lot of people can't walk away from concerts and tours
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: And say, you know what, I can stand on this
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: platform and say, you know what, I'm willing to risk
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: my career. So what I will say is, like I said,
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: there was another version of this, you know, I wish
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: I could have found it, but this was a little
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: bit more aggressive. But he said it with, you know,
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: with with that bravado. You know what I'm saying? The
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: reality of it is that's a man of privilege who's
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: basically saying. I don't care what happens after this. It
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: needs to be said. And someone said on the screen,
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: like it says he's disconnected from social media. It speaks
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: of privilege. He can do and not say whatever he
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: wants because he's going to get booked. He's going to
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: get whatever. Macklemore is still going to get booked. Exactly.
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: Because they're also more privileged than we are. It's not
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: like one of us going on the stage and saying that.
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: But yes, it was still controversial. He used it, you know,
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: his platform to say what he needed to say. And
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: people are talking about it, which is giving a good,
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: healthy dialogue for us to even say if it was
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: right or wrong, which brings attention to the problem anyway.
- 1:06:54Speaker 7: So listen, I was speaking to somebody the other day
- 1:06:57Speaker 7: and I want to make this point. I want to
- 1:06:59Speaker 7: make this point. I love the word fallout because it's
- 1:07:03Speaker 7: different from the word consequence, right? The word consequence has
- 1:07:06Speaker 7: a negative connotation to it sometimes. And it's like, it
- 1:07:10Speaker 7: almost says that, well, you did something bad and this
- 1:07:13Speaker 7: is the consequence, right? And I think the difference with
- 1:07:15Speaker 7: the word fallout is just, this is what happened after.
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: You did that, right?
- 1:07:19Speaker 7: So that's why I'm calling this a fallout and not
- 1:07:22Speaker 7: so much a consequence because I don't feel he necessarily
- 1:07:25Speaker 7: did anything wrong. My stance is just that I don't
- 1:07:30Speaker 7: agree with the timing or the where. The time and
- 1:07:35Speaker 7: the place. That's not, let me ask you a question.
- 1:07:37Speaker 4: If it was little black kids, man, hearing somewhere that
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: we're getting killed by the Ku Klux Klan. Would it
- 1:07:46Speaker 4: have been a bad time for a white person to
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: say on stage, yo, them little black kids shouldn't be
- 1:07:50Speaker 4: getting killed by the Ku Klux Klan?
- 1:07:52Speaker 7: I will 100% in the same exact situation say yes.
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: Say yes. I promise you I would. I personally disagree,
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: but I respect your answer. He's talking about business. You
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: think about business.
- 1:08:05Speaker 3: Of course.
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: It's not just business. It's respect as well. It's a
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: business relationship too.
- 1:08:09Speaker 5: You stepping on my toes to make this dance.
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: I'm on your podcast right here, right? It's certain things
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: that you wouldn't do. Out of respect.
- 1:08:16Speaker 7: Just respect alone. She could have been here, right? Let's
- 1:08:19Speaker 7: just say she was antagonizing me to a point of
- 1:08:22Speaker 7: I couldn't.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: Take it anymore.
- 1:08:23Speaker 7: There's levels of disrespect I wouldn't go to today because
- 1:08:27Speaker 7: I came on Tahoe's podcast was a dear friend of
- 1:08:31Speaker 7: mine and didn't have to allow me to come here today.
- 1:08:34Speaker 7: So no matter how disrespectful and how she could have
- 1:08:38Speaker 7: earned whatever it is I had for her. That vein
- 1:08:41Speaker 7: coming out his head, just holding it in.
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: I just have to hold it down. And when these
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: cameras come off or whatever, I'll be like, look.
- 1:08:46Speaker 7: I can say then whatever I want to say.
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: But that's also different context though. That's someone antagonizing you
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: versus using this opportunity in front of the masses to
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: say something that needs to be said. Yes, time and
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: place and respect. but you're talking about something that's directly
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: affecting you versus something that needs to be.
- 1:09:04Speaker 5: Out to the world.
- 1:09:05Speaker 7: Yeah, but what I want you to zero in is
- 1:09:06Speaker 7: not so much on the what and the timing. I
- 1:09:10Speaker 7: only brought that example up to show you how sometimes
- 1:09:13Speaker 7: timing makes a difference, especially when You have a certain,
- 1:09:17Speaker 7: you know what I mean? Relationship to somebody or relationship
- 1:09:20Speaker 7: to somebody.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: Well, Ed ain't mad at none of them. You know
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: what I'm saying? And they spoke on what they spoke on.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: And again, I think a matter of privilege. And I
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: think anybody who stands up for anything that they believe in,
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: it does come up for a sense of privilege because
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: someone has to be the first.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: Agreed.
- 1:09:33Speaker 10: Part of the issue I have with all this is
- 1:09:34Speaker 10: free Palestine should never be controversial to begin with.
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: That part.
- 1:09:38Speaker 4: You're saying free Palestine, like, is directly connected to being anti-Semitic.
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: Which is the wild part.
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: I agree. No, I agree. That's what they're saying.
- 1:09:46Speaker 5: I know a lot of Jewish folks.
- 1:09:47Speaker 10: That say free Palestine because it's a human rights issue.
- 1:09:51Speaker 10: If you really understand it at its core. Now, if
- 1:09:53Speaker 10: you just surface level, then you think it's anti-Jewish. But no,
- 1:09:57Speaker 10: that's not what it is at all. And anti-Israel... And
- 1:10:02Speaker 10: anti-Netanyahu is different than being anti-Jewish as well.
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: That part.
- 1:10:05Speaker 10: There's a lot of Jewish people that are anti-Netanyahu and
- 1:10:08Speaker 10: are not Zionist. You know what I mean? And don't
- 1:10:10Speaker 10: believe in their regime. So saying free Palestine.
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: Which isn't even... It's not hate words.
- 1:10:16Speaker 10: Directly saying fuck Netanyahu and all that, it should not
- 1:10:21Speaker 10: be controversial. It shouldn't, but it is. But that's where
- 1:10:26Speaker 10: being an artist and freedom of expression is important.
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: And that's why.
- 1:10:30Speaker 10: you're like, when's a good time to say it? That's
- 1:10:33Speaker 10: the perfect time to say it. I asked that question.
- 1:10:35Speaker 10: I said that was a bad time to say it.
- 1:10:37Speaker 10: And I'm saying that absolutely not. As an artist, you
- 1:10:40Speaker 10: have to push those envelopes of expression. If they don't
- 1:10:43Speaker 10: do it, then who will?
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: Yesterday, I hear you over there. Nah.
- 1:10:48Speaker 13: Y'all all making really good points. I do kind of
- 1:10:51Speaker 13: agree with Trom. I think especially as an artist, you
- 1:10:54Speaker 13: have to be able to speak your voice. And I
- 1:10:56Speaker 13: also feel like Because of how it happened, like you said, Tyler,
- 1:10:59Speaker 13: like Robert Kraft coming out and not just saying you
- 1:11:02Speaker 13: can't perform here, but going around to the circuit and doing... Like,
- 1:11:07Speaker 13: I think at that point, that's the point where Ed
- 1:11:10Speaker 13: Sheeran has to put his privilege up and say, hold on,
- 1:11:12Speaker 13: because this is no longer about the free Palestine shit.
- 1:11:15Speaker 13: It's now that you feel like you can suppress something
- 1:11:18Speaker 13: that's being said on my show, and I'm not standing
- 1:11:20Speaker 13: for that.
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: So that's why... Because it's his concert, his tour. That's
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: why I'm saying this is my tour.
- 1:11:24Speaker 13: And again, I might not agree with something that he's saying,
- 1:11:27Speaker 13: but like everybody's saying, he's not saying something... bad you
- 1:11:30Speaker 13: know what I'm saying if he was saying fuck kids
- 1:11:32Speaker 13: or fuck something that was harmful then yeah I wouldn't
- 1:11:35Speaker 13: support it but he's saying something that the mainstream media
- 1:11:39Speaker 13: has marketed as being anti Semitic because they don't want
- 1:11:43Speaker 13: to really discuss what's actually happening so the best way
- 1:11:47Speaker 13: to not discuss it is to say it's anti-Semitic so
- 1:11:50Speaker 13: once we label it anti-Semitic we no longer have to
- 1:11:52Speaker 13: discuss it because if you discuss it or support it
- 1:11:55Speaker 13: I just gotta say you're anti-Semitic and.
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: You're out of here quickly easily I.
- 1:11:58Speaker 13: Don't even have to think about it So I think,
- 1:12:00Speaker 13: to your point, my fault, bro.
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: My bad, Prem.
- 1:12:05Speaker 13: To your point, Prem, I think that's why Trump said
- 1:12:09Speaker 13: that was the best time to do it. And with
- 1:12:11Speaker 13: Robert Kraft doing what he did, especially as artists, when
- 1:12:13Speaker 13: you have to stand up behind your fellow artists and say, listen,
- 1:12:16Speaker 13: we're not going to let this happen. As you see,
- 1:12:19Speaker 13: the band people, even the saxophone people said, no, I'm
- 1:12:21Speaker 13: not doing this.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: Those are the people that need to check.
- 1:12:24Speaker 13: Because if you tell Ed Sheeran that he, oh, I'm sorry, Macklemore,
- 1:12:27Speaker 13: that he can't perform, would you think that... If I
- 1:12:30Speaker 13: got a stance, what do you think you can do
- 1:12:31Speaker 13: to me? The guy that play the piano, the guy
- 1:12:32Speaker 13: that do background, the guy that do the lights. Like, damn,
- 1:12:35Speaker 13: if I have any stance, that mean you could just
- 1:12:37Speaker 13: get me out of all of it. You could make
- 1:12:38Speaker 13: a call and it's over. Nah, I can't, I can't
- 1:12:40Speaker 13: stand behind that.
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: And that's the dangerous part here, guys. And I think, yes,
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: we might look at things topic by topic, but we're
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: looking at how like on social justice and history, it's
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: when you make the people oppressed, when you silence them,
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: when you make certain things taboo, they start being okay
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: with things. And that's what's happening because everything that you
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: say when you talk about Palestine, they look at it
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: as hate speech. There's nothing hateful about saying, why are
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: these babies dying? And to what you're saying, it's like,
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: you're right. It is a business. But when that is
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: all controlled, who's next? When do we ever say anything?
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: Kaepernick still doesn't have a job, you know, for standing up,
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: you know, for Black Lives Matter. It wasn't the time
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: or the place, but he stood 10 toes down on it.
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: And we see what's happened since then. And we just
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: conveniently forgot because it doesn't affect us. And all our
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: favorite people are still doing what they're doing at the NFL.
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: We have major social issues right now happening. especially in
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: politics where there is no longer the blind lies anymore.
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: It's happening right in front of our face and they're saying,
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: what you going to do about it? So it's dangerous
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: to not talk about these things because we're showing that
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: we will stand for nothing. Period dot.
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: Period. No, I support that. Oh, I knew you had
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: something to say, but you good?
- 1:13:58Speaker 7: And I'm going to pose a question to the three
- 1:14:02Speaker 7: of you guys, right? I was, um, I was in
- 1:14:05Speaker 7: my boy's car the other day and we got pulled over.
- 1:14:08Speaker 7: And these cops were 100% profiling us, whatever the whole
- 1:14:14Speaker 7: case may be, right? And he was driving and they
- 1:14:16Speaker 7: asked me to roll the window down. I said, I
- 1:14:18Speaker 7: don't answer questions, right? And he's like, who said I
- 1:14:23Speaker 7: want to ask you a question? I said, again, I
- 1:14:25Speaker 7: don't answer questions. So my boy rolls the window down
- 1:14:27Speaker 7: himself and the cops asked me for the ID. I said,
- 1:14:30Speaker 7: for what? Long story short, You don't have to give,
- 1:14:34Speaker 7: as a passenger, you don't have to give your ID.
- 1:14:36Speaker 7: And I said, yo, I'm a passenger in this vehicle.
- 1:14:39Speaker 7: I'm not giving you my ID. And he said, you
- 1:14:41Speaker 7: have to give me your ID because I asked for it.
- 1:14:44Speaker 7: So I look over at my boy before I start
- 1:14:46Speaker 7: because I was good and ready for him. I said, yo,
- 1:14:50Speaker 7: do you want me to give him my ID? Bro,
- 1:14:52Speaker 7: I will call my boy right now. I said, do
- 1:14:54Speaker 7: you want me to give him my ID? And my
- 1:14:58Speaker 7: boy said, yes, please, please.
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: Because you know the law. And I gave him my ID.
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: You know the law. Of course I know the law.
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: But you know what?
- 1:15:04Speaker 7: If I want to be a First Amendment freedom fighter,
- 1:15:07Speaker 7: I can do it on my own time.
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: My boy is the driver. I got pulled over in
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: his vehicle. He asked me to give my ID. I
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: gave my ID.
- 1:15:16Speaker 7: Had he said, you can do what you want, I
- 1:15:17Speaker 7: was never, ever giving that cop my ID. And you
- 1:15:21Speaker 7: know what? Once I gave him my ID, he still
- 1:15:24Speaker 7: pulled us out of the car. Because he's like, oh,
- 1:15:27Speaker 7: you wanted to be an asshole.
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: He said it.
- 1:15:28Speaker 7: You wanted to be an asshole. I can be an asshole, too.
- 1:15:31Speaker 7: He tried to search. I said, bro, you cannot search me.
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: I'm ready.
- 1:15:34Speaker 7: I'm now outside of my boy's vehicle. I do not
- 1:15:36Speaker 7: need to reenter that vehicle. Do not touch me. Do
- 1:15:39Speaker 7: not pat me.
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: Don't do nothing.
- 1:15:41Speaker 7: Or lock me up and take me wherever. And we
- 1:15:43Speaker 7: can start it up now. And he didn't touch me.
- 1:15:45Speaker 7: He said, it's for my safety. I said, okay, I'll
- 1:15:48Speaker 7: raise my hands and leave it here until the stop
- 1:15:50Speaker 7: is over.
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: Don't touch me. And he did not touch me. He
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: did not. And all I'm saying is, when we were
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: inside the vehicle, though... Because your moves affect him. It
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: affects him.
- 1:15:59Speaker 7: And this is me, a real story of me just
- 1:16:03Speaker 7: showing that I'm only saying what I'm saying because it's
- 1:16:07Speaker 7: what I would have, A, done to me and what
- 1:16:10Speaker 7: I would do for someone else.
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I'm saying on that. I get that. So,
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: the driver is Ed Sheeran. So... In the case, yeah.
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: Metaphors are never going to be perfect. You know what
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: I'm saying? But it's just something that.
- 1:16:22Speaker 10: Came to mind. It's actually a very good analogy, right? So,
- 1:16:25Speaker 10: all right, you said what you said. You made it
- 1:16:28Speaker 10: a little bit difficult for your man now. should he
- 1:16:33Speaker 10: throw you under the bus because you made it difficult,
- 1:16:36Speaker 10: even though it's his car?
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: Yo, he got drugs. He got drugs. Oh, no, no, no.
- 1:16:40Speaker 7: Remember, we're going to go back to the separation. Remember
- 1:16:44Speaker 7: what I'm saying? The timing of it is a complete
- 1:16:46Speaker 7: lateral conversation, bro. I do not feel Macklemore did anything wrong.
- 1:16:51Speaker 7: I mean, said anything wrong. And B, that doesn't mean
- 1:16:54Speaker 7: I like the way Ed Sheeran dealt with it either.
- 1:16:56Speaker 7: But Macklemore, to your point, you made a good point.
- 1:16:58Speaker 7: Macklemore made it hot in Ed Sheeran's car.
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: That's it. But what's Ed Sheeran's response? What should his
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: response have been? That's what we're trying to figure out. No.
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: What should his response have been? Like, out of anger?
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: Kicking him off the tour? Right. Or standing next to
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: his man? Oh, you mean... No, I think he should
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: have stayed with him. Okay. I mean.
- 1:17:16Speaker 7: It got there, but still and all, I just feel
- 1:17:18Speaker 7: like Macklemore created.
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: He definitely did.
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: I could rock with you on that. You get what
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: I'm saying? That's all I'm saying. And that's all I
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: said about the timing. He could have made his own situation.
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: On his tour. He could have made him.
- 1:17:29Speaker 10: He could have went and performed at a McDonald's and.
- 1:17:33Speaker 7: Said what he had to say then. That's all I've
- 1:17:35Speaker 7: been saying since this conversation came up.
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: You know, it's funny.
- 1:17:39Speaker 4: We went over time, but KFC Barstool posted this And
- 1:17:44Speaker 4: I was in his comments.
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: I'm following him, then I'm following him back. Because I
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: was like, ah.
- 1:17:51Speaker 4: But I was like, yo, he was saying how he
- 1:17:53Speaker 4: totally fucked Absurde.
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: And everybody in.
- 1:17:55Speaker 4: The comments was like, yo, what are you talking about?
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: Everybody.
- 1:17:59Speaker 5: Their whole comment section is like, yo, you.
- 1:18:01Speaker 7: Disconnected. I wouldn't go that far. See, I wouldn't go
- 1:18:05Speaker 7: that far. I just want you to know that what
- 1:18:06Speaker 7: I'm saying is not that. I just, after she so eloquently... No.
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: You're saying he fucked over Esher. After she so... No.
- 1:18:14Speaker 7: Listen. After she so eloquently said what she had to
- 1:18:18Speaker 7: say on the topic, I then looked at her and said,
- 1:18:22Speaker 7: while I agree with you, what do you think about
- 1:18:25Speaker 7: the timing of him doing what he.
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: Had to do?
- 1:18:28Speaker 7: And she said she was okay with it. And I'm
- 1:18:30Speaker 7: just saying I'm not. okay with the timing. I just,
- 1:18:33Speaker 7: I'm doing my best to make that clear in this
- 1:18:35Speaker 7: conversation that I find nothing wrong with what he said.
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: But you're making good points. Don't back away from it. No,
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: I'm not backing away from it.
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: No, your reasons for your timing are valid. Your reasons
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: for your timing are valid, but let's just like wrap
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: it up.
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: I'm sorry. And Prem, you know what? I'll give you this.
- 1:18:51Speaker 13: And Tata, you said that comment, you said that the
- 1:18:54Speaker 13: people were saying that he fucked Ed Sheridan, right?
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: In a way, Prem, pause. Thousand percent pause. Two hundred thousand.
- 1:19:02Speaker 13: In a way, he did because if I'm not, if
- 1:19:04Speaker 13: I'm correct, Chris, Ed had about ten shows left.
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:19:08Speaker 13: So if everybody's off the tour, I'm assuming if unless
- 1:19:11Speaker 13: they restart.
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: Yeah. There we go.
- 1:19:13Speaker 13: So now to your point, that's 10 shows right there.
- 1:19:16Speaker 13: I don't know how much you get paid per show,
- 1:19:18Speaker 13: but I'm sure that's some dollars right there for everybody,
- 1:19:22Speaker 13: but especially for Ed. So to your point, I'm not
- 1:19:24Speaker 13: going to say that it was wrong, but did you
- 1:19:27Speaker 13: get somebody out of some money?
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: Don't go further on it. Yeah, it did mess them
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: up in money. But let me tell you this. I
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: don't know if you guys saw the news after regarding
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: the ticket sales. Everybody started. selling the tickets that they
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: did buy and saying that they wouldn't go because they
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: didn't respect the fact that Ed Sheeran didn't stand behind people.
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: Because the reality of it is Ed Sheeran's response was
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: kind of like, again, skirting the fence. He said, it
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: wasn't my decision. It was the promoter's decision. But it
- 1:19:52Speaker 2: was also your decision to make yourself big enough to
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: be like, well, if y'all want to get rid of
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: my people, then I'm not doing this. And I'm sure
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: the promoters didn't want to lose money. And that's the
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: business of it. Because what Robert Kraft did was kind
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: of like what we always talk about when it comes
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: to a slave master type of thing. It's like, I'm
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: going to show y'all.
- 1:20:08Speaker 4: That's what I want to know. We keep talking about
- 1:20:11Speaker 4: all this other shit. Nobody has said nothing about Robert Kraft.
- 1:20:15Speaker 4: And he been doing corny shit like this. Why are
- 1:20:18Speaker 4: we just completely....
- 1:20:21Speaker 7: Ignoring the fact that this cracker called all his other
- 1:20:26Speaker 7: crackers and pulled this move.
- 1:20:30Speaker 5: Nobody's saying it.
- 1:20:31Speaker 2: Because it's expected.
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: It's normal.
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: But the problem is how we respond to these things.
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: And I'm talking about a cracker. Whip Cracker.
- 1:20:39Speaker 7: That's what he did. That's what the name Cracker is.
- 1:20:42Speaker 7: It ain't just white people. Whip Cracker. This is what
- 1:20:47Speaker 7: he did. How long did you know that, Tahoe?
- 1:20:50Speaker 3: A minute.
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: I thought cracker meant cracker like a white cracker. That's
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: what I thought it meant. Yo, I just thought that
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: out like five months ago.
- 1:20:58Speaker 5: He thought it was a saltine.
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: That's what I thought it was. Did you know that already?
- 1:21:03Speaker 3: No.
- 1:21:03Speaker 5: You didn't know that?
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: No. It's the whip cracker. That's why it's not even racial.
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: It's the whip cracker.
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: I never knew that. I never knew that.
- 1:21:12Speaker 2: And that's exactly how he behaves, running around, acting like
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: people can't come out of place, can't do nothing.
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: He's the whip cracker.
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: And this is the problem here, y'all. And I'm loving
- 1:21:20Speaker 2: the people's response and even people saying, yes, Ed Sheeran
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: lost out of it, but he ain't losing nothing. He's
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: still rich. He's still got his privilege. He still ain't
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: going to be on social media. He still ain't going
- 1:21:29Speaker 2: to stand for nothing. He's still going to get booked elsewhere.
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: But the reality of it is... This is what gives
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: the people power to say this is what we care about.
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: And there's a lot of things we need to be
- 1:21:40Speaker 2: caring about right now bigger than this.
- 1:21:42Speaker 4: We can speak about some of them in part two
- 1:21:45Speaker 4: of this week's episode. This has been a great first one, right?
- 1:21:51Speaker 4: All of the little cultural stuff in the front. Next one,
- 1:21:54Speaker 4: we're doing all men versus women shit.
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: You know I love that. You know what I mean? Listen,
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: ain't shit change.
- 1:22:00Speaker 5: Chris, where can these people find you?
- 1:22:03Speaker 2: Chris childs on everything's chris with a y don't ask
- 1:22:06Speaker 2: me why.
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: And also tell them about your show oh so i'm a.
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: Person of many talents thank you but um i have
- 1:22:13Speaker 2: a show on wednesdays called new music wednesdays it's super
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: dope and it's kind of like nostalgic we're bringing back
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: like you know discovery of new music uh new artists
- 1:22:22Speaker 2: videos performances all in one place it happens live at
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: the penthouse each and every week we're really freaking dope
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: and i want to see more artists really come into
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: the forefront and really just show their talent but what's
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: amazing about it is not only the fact that we
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: have these artists there and they're performing and we're actually
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: getting to interview them they actually get to go through
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: a media carousel where there's like five to twelve media
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: partners there that where they get to stop at the
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: pit and interview twelve get interviewed by twelve media outlets
- 1:22:51Speaker 2: at the same time which really gives it happened live
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: but the dope thing about it is like These artists
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: lost A & R. They lost media training. And just
- 1:23:01Speaker 2: being in the room, you can just see like, oh
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: my God, this is what I want to do. And
- 1:23:04Speaker 2: it gives them so many different variations to tell their story.
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: Awesome.
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: So we just hope you tune in.
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: Awesome. Where can they watch the show at?
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: NewMusicWednesdaysLive.com.
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: Dot com. Dot com.
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: New Music Wednesdays Live. Well, technically, if you Google it,
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: it'll come up anywhere.
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: You said two different ones.
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: New Music Wednesdays Live.
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: Dot com. Okay.
- 1:23:23Speaker 2: But if you do New Music Wednesdays live on anything
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: or New Music Wednesdays, it'll come up.
- 1:23:28Speaker 4: She's been doing this for a long time. One of
- 1:23:30Speaker 4: the lone voices out here trying to keep hip hop alive.
- 1:23:33Speaker 4: We're going to speak about this in a second because
- 1:23:34Speaker 4: I have questions. Preem, tell these people where to find
- 1:23:37Speaker 4: you and what the fuck you got going on. How
- 1:23:39Speaker 4: to buy tickets to the biggest party in the fucking world.
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: What's going on?
- 1:23:43Speaker 7: I'm Preem the Prez, first of all. That's my Instagram, P-R-E-M-E-D-A-P-R-E-Z.
- 1:23:50Speaker 7: One of the members of Rich Flex. Rich Flex NYC
- 1:23:52Speaker 7: is our Instagram. We going to Miami. We put like
- 1:23:56Speaker 7: six dates together, Wednesday to Monday.
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: Nice.
- 1:23:59Speaker 7: Just going out there, have a good time with our people, man,
- 1:24:02Speaker 7: our supporters.
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: What?
- 1:24:04Speaker 7: And I'm discounting all the bottles. When people is home,
- 1:24:08Speaker 7: it's a little easier to make up. But you know,
- 1:24:10Speaker 7: because we understand that you guys are traveling and we
- 1:24:12Speaker 7: got weekend passes. The bottles are fairly priced.
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: When is this? It's a fairly priced Columbus weekend. Columbus weekend.
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: What's the date? Columbus weekend.
- 1:24:21Speaker 7: October. The main event is October 10th. I'm also doing... Oh, actually,
- 1:24:28Speaker 7: Steph was on Rail Show the other day. So we're
- 1:24:31Speaker 7: doing a collab on Sunday. Get the fuck out of here.
- 1:24:34Speaker 5: You're doing collabs with all of the big parties?
- 1:24:37Speaker 7: Wednesday, I'm doing a collab with R & B Wednesday.
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: Reef? DJ Big Reef? DJ Big Reef.
- 1:24:44Speaker 7: Thursday, they got Kingpin Bowling out there. So I'm just
- 1:24:47Speaker 7: doing a little collab with them.
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: Friday.
- 1:24:50Speaker 7: I was supposed to be doing a collab with Girls
- 1:24:52Speaker 7: Love Karaoke, but I think we're going to all do
- 1:24:54Speaker 7: one thing on the Wednesday. I Love R & B Wednesday,
- 1:24:58Speaker 7: Girls Love Karaoke, and Rich Flex on the Wednesday. Saturday
- 1:25:02Speaker 7: is Rich Flex. Sunday is, Jesus, Lord have mercy.
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: You got a whole line.
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: Trapper R & B and Rich Flex.
- 1:25:10Speaker 7: And then Monday, we got four yachts so far.
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: We're just going on the water.
- 1:25:14Speaker 6: What?
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: All the women pull up.
- 1:25:16Speaker 5: We got four yachts, man.
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: We got four boats. Just pull up. Well, the ladies,
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: the guys got to help us with this tag.
- 1:25:23Speaker 7: The guys got to help us with this tag. Yeah,
- 1:25:25Speaker 7: you can get your own boat or come help with
- 1:25:27Speaker 7: the tag, but ladies pull up. They're going to have
- 1:25:30Speaker 7: to RSVP, first come, first serve. You know what I mean?
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good weekend. It's a good weekend. It's
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: a good weekend.
- 1:25:36Speaker 5: Where can they buy tickets to this if you're out
- 1:25:38Speaker 5: there and you want to pull up?
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: The link is in my bio. The link is in
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: my bio. Prima Press.
- 1:25:41Speaker 7: Prima Press or Rich Flex NYC. The link is in
- 1:25:45Speaker 7: that bio as well. You can buy a ticket for
- 1:25:47Speaker 7: singular events.
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: You can buy tickets.
- 1:25:49Speaker 7: You could pick any two events and buy tickets for
- 1:25:51Speaker 7: those or you could buy a whole weekend pass.
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: I'm going over there. I got to see what you
- 1:25:56Speaker 1: got going on. It sounds amazing. Is this the first
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: time you're doing something like that?
- 1:26:00Speaker 7: I did Houston last year. No, this year, March.
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: Oh, with Burgers and Bottles.
- 1:26:07Speaker 7: Burgers and Bottles. We never did an event together, but
- 1:26:09Speaker 7: they were out there that weekend as well. So it
- 1:26:11Speaker 7: was the same three. It was me, Trappin' R & B.
- 1:26:16Speaker 7: Burgers and Bottles was out there. Strictly R & B
- 1:26:18Speaker 7: was out there as well.
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: And that was amazing. That was really good.
- 1:26:21Speaker 7: Everybody did individual events that weekend. This one we worked together.
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody. Houston was real good.
- 1:26:28Speaker 7: I don't know if we're going to be able to
- 1:26:29Speaker 7: recreate that in Miami because we started so late.
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's only about a month.
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: To put it together. You? You know, we're going to
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: put it together, man. They come together for Rich Flex.
- 1:26:39Speaker 10: Yeah, man.
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: They come out for Rich Flex. I appreciate the love, too, man.
- 1:26:41Speaker 7: It just happens so organically that I truly appreciate it.
- 1:26:45Speaker 7: I'm humbled by it. And, you know, I never take
- 1:26:48Speaker 7: it for granted. I'll never, ever take it for granted,
- 1:26:49Speaker 7: the support, because we're nothing without the support.
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: Right. That's what it is. All right.
- 1:26:54Speaker 4: So he might have to watch his opinions next episode
- 1:26:57Speaker 4: because I'm taking it. I'm coming at everybody. Y'all know
- 1:27:02Speaker 4: how I do. Go on over to Patreon right now
- 1:27:05Speaker 4: if you want to hear it or wait a couple days.
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: Either way, so shameless. Anybody need some water? Need a drink?
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: I had a fan turned off. What the hell happened?